WEBVTT - The Fox ("Puppet Master" S5 EP 7)

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a big day.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a good day, Jenna.

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<v Speaker 1>We're here. We've made it. We've made it to Kevin's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite episode of all time, Season five, Episode seven, Puppymaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Historic, Iconic Important. You know there was before this episode

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<v Speaker 2>and then after this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well this was aired on November twenty eight, twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's just get through the news because we have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Royals my Lord was still number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow wow, wow wow.

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<v Speaker 2>But we have a new number one movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the Hunger Games Catching Fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I think is the best Hunger Games movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Agreed, it's seen it. I watched this movie all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a comfort for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Same, It's a really really good movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You watch it all the time. I love this movie. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>including news this week, it was Thanksgiving, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>quiet on the Glee front. There wasn't a lot. People

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<v Speaker 1>were home celebrating with their families as you do on Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>More importantly, this episode was directed by our friend Paul mccrane.

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<v Speaker 1>It was written by Matt Hodgson, Our dear Friend on Paper,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of very there's an eclectic grouping

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<v Speaker 1>of songs in this episode, as this episode is eclectic itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure is. So we have Into the Groove performed by

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<v Speaker 2>Pamela Lansbury.

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<v Speaker 1>You're My Best Friend by Queen performed by Blaine in

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<v Speaker 1>New direct.

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<v Speaker 2>We've done a lot of Queen songs.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, of course we have the Queen is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Best, Nasty Rhythm Nation mashup, I Don't Wait to Talk

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<v Speaker 2>About It by Jake Marley and Brie Cheek to Cheek.

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<v Speaker 1>By Fred Astaire were performed by Sue and Will.

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<v Speaker 2>And The Fox performed by New Directions and Pamela Lansberry. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember this that this episode aired on Thanksgiving oh

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<v Speaker 2>in the US, because I remember it was one of

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<v Speaker 2>those times I would go back to Texas every Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 2>and like, oh cool, I never get to see the

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<v Speaker 2>show with my family, and it's like this is the

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<v Speaker 2>episode we can all watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Together, Like oh no, I don't think we watched this

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<v Speaker 1>episode with my family because I said, don't watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you Forget about Me by Simple Minds was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be sung by Blaine Jake as a puppet and

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<v Speaker 1>Becky as a puppet, but was ultimately cut for unknown reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was being used in Trio three episodes later instead,

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<v Speaker 1>where Tina gets to be involved, which is very exciting

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<v Speaker 1>because I love the.

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<v Speaker 2>Song We Can't Stop by Miley Cyrus was originally reported

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<v Speaker 2>to be sung instead of the Fox, but ended up

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<v Speaker 2>being changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin, I did not know makes you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that real? Salt meat wound?

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<v Speaker 1>One of the worst. That is Actually that hurts so bad. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so funny. I didn't really that would have been great.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first episode of season five in which

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<v Speaker 1>Sam doesn't sing.

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<v Speaker 2>The scene where Blaine, Jake, and Becky aren't attention and

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<v Speaker 2>Blaine suggests getting to know each other as a reference

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<v Speaker 2>to the Breakfast Club, which is also referenced by no Wonder,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean by them and the actual scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and no Wonder we were supposed they were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Don't you forget about me? There? Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. This episode features Breeze last appearance in the series.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so fast, but she's just like so unredeemable

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<v Speaker 1>that like you can't redeem her. At this point, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no turning back, it felt like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wondered if that was the case, because when they

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<v Speaker 2>say goodbye in this episode, it felt like bye forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, take on Me, which was featured in and Sue's

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<v Speaker 2>eighty Slashback, went on to be covered in the season

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<v Speaker 2>six episode Homecoming.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. The Blame puppet featured in the episode was auctioned

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<v Speaker 1>off for three thousand dollars. Meanwhile, the Kurk puppet won

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not compare prices, you know, don't put the girls

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<v Speaker 2>in gage close.

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<v Speaker 1>It's close. It doesn't even matter. I hope it went

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<v Speaker 1>to some good cause.

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<v Speaker 2>So this episode, Blaine believes he has the best plan

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<v Speaker 2>to win Nationals, but he doesn't take the Glee Club's

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<v Speaker 2>criticism too well when the students accused him of being

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<v Speaker 2>too controlling over New York. Kurt also runs into control

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<v Speaker 2>issues when the band disagrees over the venue of their

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<v Speaker 2>first official gig that Kirk booked. Meanwhile, Sue reveals the

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<v Speaker 2>story behind her iconic tracksuit and gets in touch with

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<v Speaker 2>her feminine side.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of control issues, and they're both controlling, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be married. We're going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>work it out, Folks, gonna have to work it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Blaine is in the choir room pulling a power grab

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<v Speaker 2>and its like I know best, nobody else knows anything.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to do this a cappella thing, no instruments,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone's like, get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes and sulks in mister She's room. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>very upset.

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<v Speaker 2>He's sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I have a very distinct memory of this scene,

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<v Speaker 1>chooting this scene, do you no? Okay? The night before

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<v Speaker 1>was Jacob's twenty first birthday. Oh, and we took him out.

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<v Speaker 2>What did we do?

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<v Speaker 1>We're just a whole house and we didn't like get crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>but we like had some drinks and we got him

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<v Speaker 1>a cake that said the Man, the Myth, the Legend,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like a little Jacob artist from when

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<v Speaker 1>he was like teeny tiny. And we had a We

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<v Speaker 1>had a jolly old time and we showed up to

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<v Speaker 1>the the next day and yes, I was hungover. Fun

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, we all were. And Paul had switched the

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<v Speaker 1>room around in the choir room, like you notice, we're

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<v Speaker 1>at the drums and we're sitting on the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>where you're behind the piano, and so it wasn't our

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<v Speaker 1>usual walk in on Monday morning, go sit in the

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<v Speaker 1>red seats. Everybody says their lines and paint the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, who is this person? Who does this? Director?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Yes? And I remember being like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like this. Why is our room all rearranged? It looked great,

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<v Speaker 1>and I totally get it, and I probably would have

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<v Speaker 1>done the same thing, but like I definitely was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is happening? What is he doing? He's messing with

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<v Speaker 1>the system.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say I as we're getting into these later episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things that I questioned at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>learning that I was wrong, Like things like that, like

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<v Speaker 2>when we would be like why are they moving to

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, that is a professional who's coming into

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<v Speaker 2>season five of a show when they're trying to just

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<v Speaker 2>not make it seem stale or flat and switch up

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit like how can we make still make

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<v Speaker 2>this exciting and new?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think for us it felt like a personal

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<v Speaker 2>offense to our house and rearranging our furniture.

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<v Speaker 1>How dare they like walking into your bedroom and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>switched around like the yeah, the whole yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, it's not our bedroom and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not our home and they were doing the right thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that happened several times in this episode for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, okay, yeah, okay. Well, Blaine calls Kurt and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, this's happened. And I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>help and I'm just trying to do the right thing

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<v Speaker 1>and be a leader. And Kurt's like, well, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a pup a master and and that

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<v Speaker 1>was awkward, although I love the way that was shot,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely struck a chord in Blaine. And then Blaine went

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<v Speaker 1>and he made a puppet of Kurt.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like Blaine is really working through some things

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<v Speaker 2>of this episode psychologically, very much so.

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<v Speaker 1>And and and then I guess to add to the

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<v Speaker 1>puppets of the inspo of the puppets, there's a gas

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<v Speaker 1>leak in this episode throughout that is going to affect

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<v Speaker 1>all the storylines in McKinley High. And this gas leak

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<v Speaker 1>is happening in the back corner of the choir room

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<v Speaker 1>where we never use, so weird, and Blaine's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the one to have the first hallucination, if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>I started to happen. I go, this is how it happens. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing this again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a dentist and vitamin D and like we're all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. Look. I have to say it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a tough couple of weeks for us in this time.

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<v Speaker 1>The writers were really just grasping at some strange straws

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<v Speaker 1>during this time and rightfully saying you're right, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have to give everybody a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of grace that, like, this was hard and we had

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<v Speaker 1>to rearrange the entire series. We just needed one of

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<v Speaker 1>those episodes where we could have an excuse to do

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<v Speaker 1>some really fun numbers and have them not really make

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<v Speaker 1>sense at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like doing a puppet episode is a

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<v Speaker 2>rite of passage where a lot of shows who are

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<v Speaker 2>not musicals do a musical episode. Because we were musical,

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing we could do was a puppet episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say the Puppets were fun to have

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<v Speaker 1>be made into, you know, like just to see the puppets.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that whole episode, like watching the puppets and

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<v Speaker 1>then hair department having to like put these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put wigs on our characters to make us them look

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<v Speaker 1>like us, and then our wardrobe had to match, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like I was like, I this is

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<v Speaker 1>really fun to be made into a puppet. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>we could have kept the puppets.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, no, they're too expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>I meant a fan that had some of the puppets.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think because I've talked extensively publicly about my feelings

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<v Speaker 2>about this episode, yes, I think a lot of that

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<v Speaker 2>had to do with, most likely some undercurrents of misplaced grieving.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, and I think, yes, obviously the show was different.

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<v Speaker 2>We were doing like these big spectacle things, things that

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't normally do, and I took it just like

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<v Speaker 2>someone coming in and rearranging the furniture. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>was taking a little too seriously and a little too

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<v Speaker 2>personally that it felt like the quality of the show

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<v Speaker 2>at that time to me, like it was suffering.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think all of that was just a punching

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<v Speaker 2>bag for probably unprocessed emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>Going again, we're giving everybody grace here, so you included Kevin.

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<v Speaker 2>And I watching it, I was like, this episode is

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<v Speaker 2>not nearly I mean, maybe my bar is also really

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<v Speaker 2>low coming into this. But this episode is not nearly

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<v Speaker 2>as like terrible, terribly offensive as I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>in my head. Agree, and it's like, no, we were

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<v Speaker 2>just making this fun show. Yeah, it's not that serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the gas leak is a little far fresh,

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<v Speaker 1>but like.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever, it's not like we haven't done it before exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>and we got.

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<v Speaker 1>Some really good numbers, so we Blaine does You're My

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<v Speaker 1>Best Friend by Queen Love this song. Blaine Darren did

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<v Speaker 1>great in this number. It's very charming and very cute.

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<v Speaker 1>After watching it, it's also really funny to have done

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<v Speaker 1>the puppets and all the voices and like watching him

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<v Speaker 1>shoot this like it felt crazy is he at the time?

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<v Speaker 1>But like watching you're like this is adorable.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we talk about how we did the voices with

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<v Speaker 2>the puppets, like how that worked?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember doing that?

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<v Speaker 1>Vaguely? I remember being there when he was shooting that scene, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we did the video as he was shooting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes. I think we were hiding behind like some

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<v Speaker 2>of those speakers and things like the products, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were next to the puppeteers and actually doing the voices

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<v Speaker 2>in real time.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like a pre recorder.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is really that was fun. That was like a

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<v Speaker 2>fun thing to get to switch up and do that

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<v Speaker 2>number is really great too, how it was shot and

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<v Speaker 2>having so.

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<v Speaker 1>Precious like you you're watching Sesame Street like a real

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<v Speaker 1>music video. It was really cute. I really liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was great. For some reason, I conflated

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<v Speaker 1>this number with don't stop me Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that, yeah, you know, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, maybe there's a guest leak in my house. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Blaine is really kind of flying off the handles

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<v Speaker 1>here throughout this whole episode, We're going to see more

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But like he's just he's feeling I think

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<v Speaker 1>at the root of this, Blaine is feeling underappreciated and underheard,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's really the truth, and he's feeling hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a similar thing to like what Rachel Barry has done,

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<v Speaker 2>is when they feel the most insecure, they get the loudest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, exactly, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, his ability to just make these very high level puppets.

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<v Speaker 1>At the speed and which he did them is.

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<v Speaker 2>And that the expertise is baffling. That is the craziest

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<v Speaker 2>part of the episode. Honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good point because he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was pulling these out and then having like really strange

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<v Speaker 2>conversations like the one with Tina, the one with Kurt,

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<v Speaker 2>like these are really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're really weird. Well, so the one with Tina

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<v Speaker 1>is funny because it's towards the end of the episode

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<v Speaker 1>where he's kind of coming back into his own body

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<v Speaker 1>and Tina kind of just shares with him that like

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<v Speaker 1>he actually does deserve and he has earned his place

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<v Speaker 1>to take some sumbrle of leadership, even though he apologizes

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<v Speaker 1>to all of us for acting so kind of out

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<v Speaker 1>of character, and we all, you know, decided and New

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<v Speaker 1>Directions took a vote and decided that Blaine was going

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<v Speaker 1>to get a solo. It's in sectionals wherever he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do the a cappella or whatever. I was laughing

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<v Speaker 1>at that number because that scene because I remember, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking, like a bad behavior gets rewarded, and there

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<v Speaker 1>it is Blaine acting out and he gets a soul.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is again. But he does apologize on the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and he sends the puppets to New York and he

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<v Speaker 1>makes all of us puppets and we do what what

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<v Speaker 1>the Fox say, which we'll we'll get there. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't give it away too early. Okay, Okay, let's go Jake, because.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happened to Jake. Jake's fall from

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<v Speaker 2>Grace is hard and.

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<v Speaker 1>Fast, and it's all in this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>But like he was mean last episode, he's mean this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like apparently slept with every single cheerleader and

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<v Speaker 2>breathe the cheerios. Yeah, it's so strange. He's a resident choreographer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they're also making him work.

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<v Speaker 1>He's acting out, he's acting a little angry. He's probably

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like the aftermath of doing something wrong and probably

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<v Speaker 1>feeling guilt and taking it out in the wrong or

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<v Speaker 1>expressing himself.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot, I mean, there's a lot of that

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<v Speaker 2>this episode. It's everyone is expressing themselves incorrectly and lessons

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<v Speaker 2>learned the thing we do get from this.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, Oh gosh, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So he has a run in with Blaine, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>Blaine and here talking about like the situation in the

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<v Speaker 2>glee club, and he's like Blaine tells Jake, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on in there in the

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<v Speaker 2>choir room, but go sit in the back corner. Jake

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<v Speaker 2>comes into the choir room and it's all fired up,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, I'm not helping you. You all suck

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<v Speaker 2>a dancing, especially you Tina. Why why and which I loved,

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<v Speaker 2>And he has one of the greatest numbers in Glee

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<v Speaker 2>her history, Like I knew around.

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<v Speaker 1>I remembered it, and of course you like remember it

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh, that was a big number for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's talked about it on the show before, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he does nasty rhythmnation, but like to re visit that

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<v Speaker 1>and relive it and to watch him do that, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't I even I appreciate that number so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think I appreciated as much as it

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<v Speaker 1>deserves for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And also Paul mccrane, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks incredible. He looks incredible, he is dancing. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>looks incredible. It is so good. It is actually now

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<v Speaker 1>i'm as I rewatched this. Hands down, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best numbers we've ever done on Glake.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the level of cleanliness with the dancers has

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<v Speaker 2>never been seen on Glee before. Honestly, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>The black and white, the blackician.

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<v Speaker 2>The editing, like everybody was like really going in on

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<v Speaker 2>this number, and I couldn't believe it was in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness. Yeah, I know exactly, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness with this number was in this episode. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>this episode is just weird in general, but like really

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<v Speaker 1>lifted this episode up to another level.

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<v Speaker 2>I also didn't realize that I in my head it

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<v Speaker 2>was just Rhythm Nation because I remember the black and

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<v Speaker 2>white and like the Rhythm Nation set. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>it was Nasty and Rhythmation because he started going into

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<v Speaker 2>Nasty and I'm like, wait, what is this the same?

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<v Speaker 2>And then it goes into it and we're by the

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<v Speaker 2>chain link fence and they're singing and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason I don't remember shooting this.

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<v Speaker 2>I do because that's what I remember. The only real

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<v Speaker 2>part of this song we saw was that they were

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<v Speaker 2>shooting that like all afternoon, Well, where were the back lot?

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<v Speaker 1>How was the back lot? That's I thought we were

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<v Speaker 1>on location. I was like, why don't I remember going there?

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<v Speaker 2>No, So it was when you're on a back lot

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<v Speaker 2>and you have all like the facades of New York.

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<v Speaker 2>It was on New York Street, the where Rhythm Nation

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<v Speaker 2>was shot. The black and white sack was inside of

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<v Speaker 2>one of those fake buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>God, and then we.

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<v Speaker 2>Shot the chain link fence somewhere close by, like the

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<v Speaker 2>backside of the blue sky on Paramount, right, So on

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<v Speaker 2>the Paramount there is a gigantic, huge, fake blue sky

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<v Speaker 2>and a water tank that is also a parking lot

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<v Speaker 2>that they can use to you know, stimulate I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>stimulate the sea.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like the end of Truman Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and on the backside of that is the back lot,

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<v Speaker 2>which is all the fake New York stuff and that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just it was so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Sheer perfection. I truly like embedded in my mind. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so impeccable. It's so impeccable from every every department, every talent, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Shocking, oh so good. It was so they would like

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<v Speaker 2>match cut back to the choir room and he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing, and like the cheerios were unbelievable and

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<v Speaker 2>those were not those were new cheerios.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know them, yes, no, we don't know them.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like Jacob is so stupid, he's so good. Austin

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<v Speaker 2>was walking by as I was watching it. He walked

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<v Speaker 2>by once and saw the puppets. He's like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>this episode. He kept walking and then you walk by

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<v Speaker 2>again at the beginning of Nasty Rhythm Nation and just

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<v Speaker 2>stood there like, oh my god. I'm like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is insane. He had never seen it and it

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<v Speaker 2>was I mean, it's a real music video.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, for sure, it's it's the beast music

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<v Speaker 1>video we've done on this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd love to talk to Paul mccrane about that,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, more often than not directors coming to

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<v Speaker 2>the show without having knowledge or experienced shooting musical numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>This did not look like somebody who did not know

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<v Speaker 2>how to shoot musical numbers, Like this was done at

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<v Speaker 2>such a high level that this person understood it should.

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<v Speaker 1>Have been like Paris Barclay. Yes, you know, this person

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<v Speaker 1>knew how to he understood to dance right well. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Jake actually ends up apologizing to Marley at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, there was the pregnancy scare, which was was

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a scare, so thankfully Brie is not pregnant, and but

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<v Speaker 1>he does apologize to Marley and says he misses her

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<v Speaker 1>every day and he look and from his performance it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed genuine to me that Jake was actually learning the

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<v Speaker 1>ror of his ways. But Marley was like, too late,

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<v Speaker 1>too little, too late, No, thank you, gotta go.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a song we should have done on Glee.

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<v Speaker 1>Too little, too late.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also at McKinley, we have Sue and I. As much

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<v Speaker 2>as a tyrant as Sue has been over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>and as much as it reminds me of Trump being

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<v Speaker 2>in power, Sue in a position of power, I do

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 2>enjoy this storyline a bit because it does seem like

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<v Speaker 2>she is trying, and you know when it gets to

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<v Speaker 2>like Sue showing her softer side, and you have this

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<v Speaker 2>thing where she's having the meeting with the superintendent and

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<v Speaker 2>the superintendent has to go get drinks and mistakes her

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<v Speaker 2>for a man. She gets really upset and she calls

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<v Speaker 2>in the reserves. She talks to Becky, she talks to Will,

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:41.360
<v Speaker 2>she talks to Unique about how to embrace her femininity,

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<v Speaker 2>and we get to see some really beautiful work from

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<v Speaker 2>all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>The scene with Unique is hilarious, and this number with

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<v Speaker 2>Will is phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>So cool again another musical video.

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<v Speaker 2>Gigantic meat cool number.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>This is when people are saying, we don't know how

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 2>you guys shot this show. I do not know how Paul.

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:11.000
<v Speaker 2>And then you have like the set design, the builders,

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:13.880
<v Speaker 2>like how are they doing all of this in one episode?

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 2>It's a big episode for him, gigantic.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we also have to talk about the the joy

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>of seeing Sue back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, the history.

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 1>With the hair. Everybody else is just it's it's great.

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I loved the time jump. I loved her hair and

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 1>then her just coming out into modern day sho syla. Yes,

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 1>it was too good, very very good. The musical number

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 1>that they do her and will do cheek to cheek

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<v Speaker 1>is gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>Also black and white, but different, different.

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<v Speaker 1>I love watching I always like watching them do musical

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>numbers together.

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.119
<v Speaker 2>I do too, And like their voices fit the style

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:09.200
<v Speaker 2>of music so well.

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, very much. And and Matt in like anything fred

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Astaire drugs. Yeah, Territory is like that's I think he's

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 1>just so classical looking when he performs, like.

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, get him, get him dancing, get him in a

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 2>tuts you know, totally.

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>SU's going to get a makeover for Unique and then

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 1>she's going to do the instruction with the school board

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<v Speaker 1>she does get approved to be principle.

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I did like the I love a moment

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 2>like this in a show of figgins popping up and

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 2>be like, gotcha, there's actually a gas leak and she's

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<v Speaker 2>irresponsible and this has been affecting the whole school sort

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 2>of you know, summarizing what happened in the episode. And

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 2>then she's like, no, actually, I knew you wouldn't be

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 2>able to fix it because you're incompetent. And I fixed it,

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:57.360
<v Speaker 2>And you have a little flashback of her and there

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<v Speaker 2>at nighttime. Also, this is the second time she's been

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 2>at the school late at night, because the first time

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 2>she confiscates Blaine's Kurt puppet takes it from him, and

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 2>then Blaine is in there late at night stealing it back,

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 2>and she's also there again and says maybe my favorite

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 2>line in the entire episode. But she gets approved, and

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 2>her outfit also.

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Is so wild.

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:26.160
<v Speaker 2>It's really I was like, what is I don't happening here?

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>But she gets, you know, unanimously approved, and then she

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>asks the superintendent out for drinks and he turns her down,

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 2>and it's heartbreaking.

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I always find it that I feel bad I shouldn't

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>feel bad for Sue because she's so evil sometimes, but

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 1>she's so undeniably good that you have to feel bad

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 1>for her because she is human, Like Jane makes her

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>so human that you're like, oh fine, I get it.

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 1>When a woman of my stature needs to makeup, he

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>shearings up all her best guys. But unfortunately Porcelain this attitude.

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Myself is in New York, so God must pad with

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>this mistake. I turned to you, Jesus Christ. It's actually insane.

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I do like all the references. One of my favorite

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 2>running jokes in this episode is how everybody keeps just

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 2>popping over to New York every week.

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, right, so Kurt wants Blaine to come see Pamela

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Lansbury's debut performance at the club Callbacks, and he's like,

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I know you were just here, but like come, Yeah,

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Blaine can't go.

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Because he got caught stealing that puppet and he's in attention.

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll speaking the detention scene.

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I really loved, very very funny. What a weird group

0:26:55.280 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of misfits in the Yeah, but it was really it's

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 1>very funny. Yeah, Yeah, I really really.

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Liked it, and I wish there was like a little

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>bit more of that. Because this episode had such big

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>set pieces in musical numbers, it was nice to sort

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 2>of in the simplicity of like whatever that was, and

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 2>it felt really grounded and real. And also Lauren Potter

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 2>was on one this episode.

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, the line she had like back to back episodes,

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>just on one, she's she's it's coming up too, Like

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>there's more like we're not getting rid of her just

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>yet Blaine, So yeah, Blaine also doesn't make it too

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Kurt's debut, but nobody shows up to their performance.

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Did you have in your life, like whether it's in

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>high school or college, because you went to college for

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 2>musical theater, like situations like this, like were you faced

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 2>with like, oh, there was a performance, nobody shows up,

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Like it's embarrassing, or like oh god, I can't believe

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 2>we have to perform there because that's not cool, that's

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 2>noting we're supposed to be doing.

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't really work like that. Everything was so

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>insular in college that like students showed up, you had

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>friends who showed up. Students showed up. We weren't really

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>performing in outside venues except for the York Theater, which

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>was like affiliated with it. But like people showed up

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't. It wasn't really like that, And we

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>also weren't like I don't know, maybe I just didn't

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 1>create a cover band that like right, you know, was

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to do open mic nights. Yeah, that was not

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.479
<v Speaker 1>definitely you know what I mean, Like I wasn't her

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, no, it wasn't. That wasn't really the case

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>in musical theater schools because everything was so insular and

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody just like showing up whether they wanted to like

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>hate on it or love it.

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 2>So was there anybody in your school started a band?

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm sure, like you're already doing so much work,

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Like you guys were doing a billion shows a year, Like,

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>how are you also doing a band? Right?

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's the people who were really not getting

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>to utilize their like instruments for like things like like

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to do music in stature or something

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>like that, But now we were so busy, and musical

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>theater was like such a focus that like we couldn't

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>focus on anything else. I couldn't possibly do something more,

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, so serious. Everything was so serious kind of

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>like nyata. But again, yeah, they have more time because

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>time isn't real and that's true.

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, everybody's pissed off because they don't want to

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 2>perform at the musical theater bar and like that's embarrassing,

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 2>we can't do it. And I got to say Adam

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Lambert coming through with just being so reasonable and understanding

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 2>and giving Kurt the space to figure out his leadership

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 2>skills or lack thereof.

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Mmmmm. And they do do this great Madonna number. It

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>happened so fast and I was like, whoa right?

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 2>And I remember like, oh, this is the start of

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 2>shoving Demi in the back, like not giving her something.

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 2>She's playing an instrument, she's in the back, Like she

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 2>needs to be out.

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>There with everybody doing those rips, giving the song.

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like we're not getting enough Demi, like you

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>have Jammy Levado, the best voices of the generation on

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the show, use her.

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Greed or like don't just get get her out of there? Yes, exactly.

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Do we know how much longer she's on because I

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 2>feel like that wouldn't have lasted long.

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't last super long. She's off pretty soon because

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>she's busy. And it's like if you're using her greate,

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're not She's got to go. Yeah, for sure.

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>So they do the performance and luckily there's one The

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 2>one man there shows somebody who runs the Williamsburg Music Hall,

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 2>which is like a really cool the exact venue they

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>want to be in. So like it all worked out.

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>It works out, you know.

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Sam the producer was making the point of the fact

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>that there is a piece of media that there is

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>a band with Adam Lambert, Demilavado, Crisical for Anaya, Rivera

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>and Leah is truly a dream and I feel like

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 2>there's so much potential there. I don't know if they

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 2>do it or explore it enough, but with all of

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>them in a band, it's really and I don't think

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 2>I think you have Demi back there like in the background,

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 2>because you're like making it have to be a real

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>band with like the live instruments and all that. I say,

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 2>just like you didn't need all that. Go the way

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 2>of like Abba, give no rules.

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Let them sing to a track, you know, open up

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>her mouth, open that trap, you know what I mean,

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>let her blow because like she's hands down one of

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the best vocalists we've ever.

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>You have so many incredible singers and a band together.

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 2>What Leah, get them singing together.

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wanted more vocals.

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 2>It's because the vocals we got were incredible.

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Obviously they were great, but like we could do more, put.

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Them all on every song. I don't know, I understand stand,

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>like putting two of.

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Them on a song, agreed, get it, get it out there.

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Also, how do they just have all this money to

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>be doing things? They have new outfits. Kurtson's a voucher.

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>This is like Kevin, This is like when one section

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>was couldn't afford the US for RDY, but we have

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>massive Lady Gaga sets and costumes. It doesn't exist. It

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist, only sus keeping track of it. I mean,

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Will wanted six hundred dollars for national costumes, but like

0:32:56.400 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>we just did Katie Gaga with a full tar and

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>rope when with the wheelchair attached, I'm sorry.

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I like so points out the expensive piece of that

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 2>is the big like air bag attached to my wheelchair.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 2>But it was like, I'm sorry, what about every set

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 2>piece in that or roar? They're the fake shrubs, the

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>full plants.

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well let's talk about what's the fox say? Okay, Now,

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the thing I remember the most about what the fox

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>say is that you had to do those dingingings. No

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>wonder you hated to do that number. That is the

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>most annoying thing. I remember. Also the plants inside.

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you love a indoor plant.

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I've changed my ways. I've grown up a little bit.

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 1>But at this time, in this year, up until this year,

0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>we've learned. Everybody learned that day on set there are

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>all these plants on indoor plants on the stage to

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>create the atmosphere. I hate plants inside. I hated them.

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I think there's bugs, there's dirt everywhere. It makes a mess.

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't see the purpose of like the good

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>oysgen and things that they do for you. And I

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't like a plant inside my house at the time.

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Changed my ways, but everybody was like very floored by

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>this thing that like Jenna doesn't like.

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Plants, like hatred.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I was so mad and we had to kneel behind them,

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and I was like dirty, like get out of what about?

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.720
<v Speaker 2>During the what about roar, we had plants.

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Not real plants I see, are real plants that they

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>brought in from like a nursery or something. And it

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>was a weird number. I'm not gonna lie like it

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>was weird and after a much the whole episode, like

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the gas leak was weird, but the numbers weren't. And

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>so this was a very It was a slight departure, and.

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 2>It was like a reverse of what should have been happening.

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Right, because we had really nation in this episode, right,

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and then you have what the Fox are.

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like everyone's internal thoughts are exquisite, high taste,

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 2>high production value.

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>And there's us with puppets and duck noses ding ding

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>ding ding ding ding.

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>It's so weird.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I you hated at this number.

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I didn't hate it as much as I thought I

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 2>would watching it, and time and time again, I think

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Ryan is correct or some of the things the numbers

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.760
<v Speaker 2>and choices I was doubting at the time as a child.

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching now and I'm like, I get it. Yeah,

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 2>I do get it, and like, why it's not so

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:58.879
<v Speaker 2>out of left field that we did this number?

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Not at all? It was also very popular.

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and our turnaround was really quick, Like if a

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 2>song became really popular, we could put it in the

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 2>episode and it would be on the air in three weeks.

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 2>That's so pretty quick. And so I think I think

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I was just like going through it.

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that again makes sense.

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I was fully projecting onto one. Also

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 2>like I didn't like that song. It was like when

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.359
<v Speaker 2>we had to do Friday but who, Like I don't really,

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 2>but it was like I don't. It feels so stupid

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 2>to have to commit your time and energy to doing

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 2>such like a stupid song. Yeah, I get it, okay,

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 2>but it's also like that's the job, that's the gig, right,

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Like this is what we're doing. Not everybody gets to

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 2>do the songs that we love all the time.

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 2>And also like the writers have a purpose for doing

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 2>this and like just do it. Stop being a little

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 2>we're not the writers. Yeah, And I was shocked by

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 2>how like I thought it was funny. I thought it

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 2>made sense. I do think Leah giving belting during what

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 2>the Fox Say is so insane. I was like, this

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 2>song is doesn't deserve this good vocal.

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's a little crazy, but let's do it. Let's

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>go for it.

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it like we've done Turkey Lurky, like.

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, change changed woman.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, Like if you and I are down for that,

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>this isn't that far off. In a number of ways.

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 2>So like, I don't I've been reformed. I think my

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:37.399
<v Speaker 2>mental breakdown and like me looking into the camera several

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 2>times during this episode, because it felt like we were

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 2>on a like I honestly felt like we had lost

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 2>the plot.

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get it, I get it, and.

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Like what is the show? I don't recognize it anymore?

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah blah blah. I don't think that's what

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 2>was happening, right, I think I lost the plot and

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't recognize what we were doing anymore. I think

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 2>that was just a me that's all right, and we

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 2>were all just losing our minds a bit.

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 1>And so I I think makes sense though why we

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 1>have such weird, odd memories of this episode. And you

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>could have just been having some emotional turmoil during this

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>episode as well, that you know, producted onto what the

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the thing was? Like me with moving out? You know

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I was wrong?

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 2>What is the next episode? Christmas?

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Previously anarchy?

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 2>And so these were the this was the.

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Stretch where we borned.

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I really was like not nice, like the angry Kevin.

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>This remember this is like Kevin two point zero as

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 2>you guys would call me. Yes, I am I started

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 2>to like speak up and speak out and was just

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it was misguided, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was the long days. We were tired. I

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 2>was really I remember the feeling of how tired I

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 2>was frustrated. I was so frustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a I'm looking now ahead a little bit

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>into the plot of previously on her Christmas, and I

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>now remember where we were and we weren't well.

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I just needed a break. I think

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 2>maybe I just I don't think I had anything to

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 2>do with the show, to be honest, I think maybe

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I was just there was a.

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Haze in front of our eyes at this point. I

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>remember shooting like Mary's boy Child and doing like the

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Nativity scene and being like, where are we? We're in the.

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Twilight zone, isn't it. I just didn't expect this necessarily,

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Like it's so obvious of why, Like, oh, I didn't

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:46.880
<v Speaker 2>lose my mind the whole show until now, Like we

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 2>had no shit.

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>You can't be in a you can't be in like

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<v Speaker 1>a spiral and like see the logical side of things, yeah,

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>like it's just not the way it goes, so like

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<v Speaker 1>we can't be grieving and also know what's coming out

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of what's going to be on the other shode.

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 2>You only have so much capacity, and like our capacity

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:11.959
<v Speaker 2>was fully taken showing up to do the job fintion

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.720
<v Speaker 2>hours and yeah shows all our energy.

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh god.

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>And so in hindsight it was like, oh, I wish

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 2>you know. Unfortunately, Yeah, we have been through this several

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 2>times now, and it's like you get better at recognizing

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 2>what you need to deal with these things, and it's like, oh,

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad that we've seen the light and that

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:41.439
<v Speaker 1>we were able to understand this on a different level

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:42.320
<v Speaker 1>this time around.

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what happened, right, I think that's.

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely what happened. Then, is one and ten percent one happened?

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Because this episode is not that crazy?

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 1>No it's not. And there's some really good talent and

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.320
<v Speaker 1>like performances.

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 2>A lot of great musical it's not that bad. No, sorry, Ryan,

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 2>you're right.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Yep, we were wrong. Uh, let's create the performances into

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the groove A Hey You're my best friend, A nasty red,

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the Nation A plus plus the high as it can go,

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>cheek to cheek, A he the Fox, B I love this.

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>That's not so bad. Okay, that's that's a very good average.

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>It's an average. Let's do some tarty takes, so Auchi's Honestly,

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I have to say, like Sue says a lot of

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>offensive things in this episode. So does Becky. But also

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Sue being mistaken for a dude in this episode, or

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>like being one of the guys is a little bit

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>also announce you for her and Brie.

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Brie in general.

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 1>M No, wonder she's gone.

0:41:59.880 --> 0:42:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I felt that through the screen. Damn, Jenna, I don't disagree.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Best dance move, are you kidding me? N yes, like

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 2>honorable mention to Matt Morrison, of course, but Jacob Jacob

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:25.839
<v Speaker 2>and the entire dance team.

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Tears in my eyes. It's so good.

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 2>There's this part of Rhythm Nation. They're on one of

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 2>the I don't know what do you call it, like

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 2>one of the levels, and they're in a straight line

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 2>and then they go against the walls and they break

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 2>out into a diagonal in quick succession, and it is

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 2>so clear, it is beautiful. I gasped.

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.879
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I actually have teers in my eyes

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 1>thinking about that number. I have to watch.

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 2>It was so good.

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>One of the best songs we'll ever during the series.

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>The best performances, best song, Nasty Perms by prop.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, all the puppets, I mean, all those puppeteers are

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 2>so talented. The people who made the puppets, I know

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 2>they were so to be talented. It's such a gift

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.360
<v Speaker 2>and like a thing you don't get to be exposed

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 2>to that often, like the behind the scenes of and

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.240
<v Speaker 2>to work with those people. That was really special.

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it really was. It was very cool. I wish

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>we'd appreciated it more.

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sorry to anyone if you were there working and

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 2>we weren't that nice or excited about it.

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 1>You never know with us at that point.

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I I'm sure I was not at my finest. I

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:38.720
<v Speaker 2>know I was not, so shoot crap shoot Yeah. Best line,

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 2>my favorite line of the entire episode when Blaine gets

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 2>caught stealing the puppet again and Blaine goes, hey, current puppet,

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 2>and so he goes, this is contraband. And if I

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 2>catch you with your hand up the butt of anything

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:55.760
<v Speaker 2>that isn't human, you're in a world of trouble.

0:43:56.400 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>But like brilliant.

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:09.720
<v Speaker 2>But if you did catch it, I don't anyway, it's brilliant. Also,

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 2>that's sorry. That doesn't happen when he gets caught sneaking

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 2>in right, that happens the first time he gets caught

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 2>with the yeah.

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Performance MVP, I mean a singular performance shake up for

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>rhythmation to an honorable mention. And I think Darren overall

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>this this episode, he's you know, he's got a lot

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 1>going on and has a full arc yeah with a

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 1>puppet Yeah.

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 2>And I think you couldn't have picked a better person

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:43.880
<v Speaker 2>to have this stuff with the puppets than Darren. That

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 2>is the exact person, my person, that's right, because he

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 2>loved it. He was so happy doing it and like godspeed,

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:59.240
<v Speaker 2>he was the absolute right person. He was the perfect

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 2>person for it. Okay, so before we go shit, we

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 2>found on TikTok jen Nah, there was a trend going

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 2>on on TikTok. I don't know if you saw it

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.320
<v Speaker 2>or you would have, like it was a lot of

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:13.760
<v Speaker 2>animals like filming this dog and be like dogs are stupid.

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think people should have dogs anymore. And the

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 2>camera would flip around and it would look like an

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 2>accident and it'd be a cat on the other side

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 2>of it, looking like it was filming the video.

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, like okay, or dogs.

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Being like ugh, cats are so annoying. People should not

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 2>own cats anymore. It's flip around the camera, flip around

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 2>to be a dog, like, oh right, I got caught.

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 2>So this one is by hopeless and forty five on TikTok.

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 2>It says guys reading books is so outdated, we should

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.320
<v Speaker 2>just get rid of it. And then the care of

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 2>camera fhlps around and it's a picture of it, like,

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:51.359
<v Speaker 2>oh shit. I was hesitant to put this one in there,

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's so funny. And obviously she can read.

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I cannot that I believe that this is shell. This

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>lives on, like even though it's been debunked, and like

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows, like she can read, and she's like played

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:08.839
<v Speaker 1>into it as well. Like the fact that it still

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 1>lives on is insane.

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.280
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I what I did for the record.

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I was hesitant to even.

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I hear you, But I think that's because I don't

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:18.839
<v Speaker 1>want to apperpetuate this. No, no, no, I don't think

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you are. I had a friend text me last night

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:24.360
<v Speaker 1>about it. Well, it's funny because I went on, is

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.720
<v Speaker 1>it making a research evering in? And they had asked

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>about like some you know, tabloids and things, and like

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I talked about the lea, I can't read the kind

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>of thing, and it was just so funny. It's such

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>a funny thing. Everybody laughs at it now because we

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>know it's not true and it's actually ridiculous.

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 2>But I hope people know it's not true.

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I guess it's still living on. I

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:46.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's ridiculous. Okay, Well that is the episode.

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it. I didn't hate it. We did it.

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 1>We did it, We did it, you got through it.

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm shocked, Jenna, I am shocked.

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I am shocked too. I'm actually sucked too. I was

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 1>pleasantly surprised.

0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Now. What I am scared about is previously on there

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 2>at Christmas.

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm going in with eyes wide open. I

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm going in knowing that this is a satire.

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm going in knowing that we were

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of losing our minds at this point, and I

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 1>feel like we might. It's not that it's going to

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 1>be not be wild and wildly inappropriate, because I remember

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 1>it being wildly inappropriate, but the episode itself maybe not

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 1>as as a whole as bad, but there were definitely

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>wildly inappropriate moments and I was like, why are we

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 1>shooting this?

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 2>And speaking of satire, I think part of my spiral

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:45.279
<v Speaker 2>whatever was happening at the time, I thought the show

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 2>was taking itself too seriously, and I have said that

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 2>for years, like season five and six, we forgot we

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 2>were satire and we started taking ourselves too seriously. I

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 2>think that was wrong. I think I was taking it

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 2>too seriously and I was forgetting that we were a

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 2>satire and unable to recognize the satirical nature of some

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 2>of what's going on.

0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough.

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:14.279
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's on me M, and did not

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 2>think I'd be having these oprah aha moments. But here

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 2>we are. M. That's what it feels like, a revelation, Jenna,

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 2>everything is.

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 1>True for me. That okay, public Master, we did it.

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 2>We did next Yes, everyone buckle up next week previously

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:36.319
<v Speaker 2>any Christmas and that's what you really missed. Bye, Thanks

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:39.480
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0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:41.680
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