1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: It is a big day. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: We're a good day, Jenna. 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: We're here. We've made it. We've made it to Kevin's 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: favorite episode of all time, Season five, Episode seven, Puppymaster. 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: Historic, Iconic Important. You know there was before this episode 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: and then after this episode. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Okay, well this was aired on November twenty eight, twenty thirteen, 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: and let's just get through the news because we have 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: to talk about this. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: Royals my Lord was still number one. 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Wow wow, wow wow. 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: But we have a new number one movie. 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Oh the Hunger Games Catching Fire. 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: Which I think is the best Hunger Games movie. 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 1: Agreed, it's seen it. I watched this movie all the time. 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: It's a comfort for me. 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. Same, It's a really really good movie. 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: You watch it all the time. I love this movie. Uh, 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: including news this week, it was Thanksgiving, so it was 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: quiet on the Glee front. There wasn't a lot. People 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: were home celebrating with their families as you do on Thanksgiving. 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: More importantly, this episode was directed by our friend Paul mccrane. 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: It was written by Matt Hodgson, Our dear Friend on Paper, 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,639 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of very there's an eclectic grouping 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: of songs in this episode, as this episode is eclectic itself. 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: Sure is. So we have Into the Groove performed by 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: Pamela Lansbury. 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: You're My Best Friend by Queen performed by Blaine in 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: New direct. 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: We've done a lot of Queen songs. 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: Well, of course we have the Queen is the. 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: Best, Nasty Rhythm Nation mashup, I Don't Wait to Talk 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: About It by Jake Marley and Brie Cheek to Cheek. 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: By Fred Astaire were performed by Sue and Will. 38 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: And The Fox performed by New Directions and Pamela Lansberry. Okay, 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: I remember this that this episode aired on Thanksgiving oh 40 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: in the US, because I remember it was one of 41 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: those times I would go back to Texas every Thanksgiving 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: and like, oh cool, I never get to see the 43 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: show with my family, and it's like this is the 44 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: episode we can all watch. 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: Together, Like oh no, I don't think we watched this 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: episode with my family because I said, don't watch it. 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: Don't you Forget about Me by Simple Minds was supposed 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: to be sung by Blaine Jake as a puppet and 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: Becky as a puppet, but was ultimately cut for unknown reasons, 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: but it was being used in Trio three episodes later instead, 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: where Tina gets to be involved, which is very exciting 52 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: because I love the. 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: Song We Can't Stop by Miley Cyrus was originally reported 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: to be sung instead of the Fox, but ended up 55 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: being changed. 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Kevin, I did not know makes you feel? 57 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: Is that real? Salt meat wound? 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: One of the worst. That is Actually that hurts so bad. Oh, 59 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: that's so funny. I didn't really that would have been great. 60 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: This is the first episode of season five in which 61 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: Sam doesn't sing. 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: The scene where Blaine, Jake, and Becky aren't attention and 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: Blaine suggests getting to know each other as a reference 64 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,559 Speaker 2: to the Breakfast Club, which is also referenced by no Wonder, 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: I mean by them and the actual scene. 66 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Right and no Wonder we were supposed they were supposed 67 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: to do. Don't you forget about me? There? Yeah, that 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: makes sense. This episode features Breeze last appearance in the series. 69 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: That was so fast, but she's just like so unredeemable 70 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: that like you can't redeem her. At this point, there's 71 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: no turning back, it felt like that. 72 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: I wondered if that was the case, because when they 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: say goodbye in this episode, it felt like bye forever. 74 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: Sure. 75 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, take on Me, which was featured in and Sue's 76 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: eighty Slashback, went on to be covered in the season 77 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: six episode Homecoming. 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: Wow. The Blame puppet featured in the episode was auctioned 79 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: off for three thousand dollars. Meanwhile, the Kurk puppet won 80 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: for twenty five hundred. 81 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: Let's not compare prices, you know, don't put the girls 82 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: in gage close. 83 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: It's close. It doesn't even matter. I hope it went 84 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: to some good cause. 85 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: So this episode, Blaine believes he has the best plan 86 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: to win Nationals, but he doesn't take the Glee Club's 87 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: criticism too well when the students accused him of being 88 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: too controlling over New York. Kurt also runs into control 89 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: issues when the band disagrees over the venue of their 90 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: first official gig that Kirk booked. Meanwhile, Sue reveals the 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: story behind her iconic tracksuit and gets in touch with 92 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: her feminine side. 93 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: Wow. 94 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: A lot of control issues, and they're both controlling, and 95 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: they're going to be married. We're going to have to 96 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: work it out, Folks, gonna have to work it out. 97 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: Blaine is in the choir room pulling a power grab 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: and its like I know best, nobody else knows anything. 99 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: We need to do this a cappella thing, no instruments, 100 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 2: and everyone's like, get out of here. 101 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: He goes and sulks in mister She's room. Yeah, he's 102 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: very upset. 103 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: He's sad. 104 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: Now I have a very distinct memory of this scene, 105 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: chooting this scene, do you no? Okay? The night before 106 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: was Jacob's twenty first birthday. Oh, and we took him out. 107 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: What did we do? 108 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: We're just a whole house and we didn't like get crazy, 109 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: but we like had some drinks and we got him 110 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: a cake that said the Man, the Myth, the Legend, 111 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: and it was like a little Jacob artist from when 112 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: he was like teeny tiny. And we had a We 113 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: had a jolly old time and we showed up to 114 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: the the next day and yes, I was hungover. Fun 115 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: in fact, we all were. And Paul had switched the 116 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: room around in the choir room, like you notice, we're 117 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: at the drums and we're sitting on the ground and 118 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: where you're behind the piano, and so it wasn't our 119 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: usual walk in on Monday morning, go sit in the 120 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: red seats. Everybody says their lines and paint the picture. 121 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, who is this person? Who does this? Director? 122 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: Thank you? Yes? And I remember being like, I don't 123 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: like this. Why is our room all rearranged? It looked great, 124 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: and I totally get it, and I probably would have 125 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: done the same thing, but like I definitely was like, 126 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: what is happening? What is he doing? He's messing with 127 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: the system. 128 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: I will say I as we're getting into these later episodes, 129 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: a lot of things that I questioned at the time, 130 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: learning that I was wrong, Like things like that, like 131 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: when we would be like why are they moving to 132 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: It's like, no, that is a professional who's coming into 133 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: season five of a show when they're trying to just 134 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: not make it seem stale or flat and switch up 135 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: a little bit like how can we make still make 136 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: this exciting and new? 137 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Yes? 138 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: And I think for us it felt like a personal 139 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: offense to our house and rearranging our furniture. 140 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: How dare they like walking into your bedroom and somebody 141 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: switched around like the yeah, the whole yeah. 142 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: But you know what, it's not our bedroom and it's 143 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: not our home and they were doing the right thing. Yeah, 144 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: and that happened several times in this episode for me. 145 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: Hmm, okay, yeah, okay. Well, Blaine calls Kurt and he's like, 146 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, this's happened. And I'm just trying to 147 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: help and I'm just trying to do the right thing 148 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: and be a leader. And Kurt's like, well, you don't 149 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: want to be a pup a master and and that 150 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: was awkward, although I love the way that was shot, 151 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: definitely struck a chord in Blaine. And then Blaine went 152 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: and he made a puppet of Kurt. 153 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: It feels like Blaine is really working through some things 154 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: of this episode psychologically, very much so. 155 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: And and and then I guess to add to the 156 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: puppets of the inspo of the puppets, there's a gas 157 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: leak in this episode throughout that is going to affect 158 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: all the storylines in McKinley High. And this gas leak 159 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: is happening in the back corner of the choir room 160 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: where we never use, so weird, and Blaine's going to 161 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: be the one to have the first hallucination, if you will. 162 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: I started to happen. I go, this is how it happens. Yes, 163 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: I'm doing this again. 164 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. 165 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: It's like a dentist and vitamin D and like we're all. 166 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: You know what. Look. I have to say it's been 167 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: a tough couple of weeks for us in this time. 168 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: The writers were really just grasping at some strange straws 169 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: during this time and rightfully saying you're right, you're right. 170 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: I think we have to give everybody a little bit 171 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: of grace that, like, this was hard and we had 172 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: to rearrange the entire series. We just needed one of 173 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: those episodes where we could have an excuse to do 174 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: some really fun numbers and have them not really make 175 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: sense at all. 176 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: And I feel like doing a puppet episode is a 177 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: rite of passage where a lot of shows who are 178 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: not musicals do a musical episode. Because we were musical, 179 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 2: the only thing we could do was a puppet episode. 180 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: And I will say the Puppets were fun to have 181 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: be made into, you know, like just to see the puppets. 182 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: I remember that whole episode, like watching the puppets and 183 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: then hair department having to like put these you know, 184 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: put wigs on our characters to make us them look 185 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: like us, and then our wardrobe had to match, and 186 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: it was just like I was like, I this is 187 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: really fun to be made into a puppet. I wish 188 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: we could have kept the puppets. 189 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: I know, no, they're too expensive. 190 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: I meant a fan that had some of the puppets. 191 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: A lot of them. 192 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that's right. 193 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: I think because I've talked extensively publicly about my feelings 194 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: about this episode, yes, I think a lot of that 195 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: had to do with, most likely some undercurrents of misplaced grieving. 196 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: Fair enough, and I think, yes, obviously the show was different. 197 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: We were doing like these big spectacle things, things that 198 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: we wouldn't normally do, and I took it just like 199 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: someone coming in and rearranging the furniture. I think I 200 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: was taking a little too seriously and a little too 201 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: personally that it felt like the quality of the show 202 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: at that time to me, like it was suffering. 203 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Got it. 204 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 2: But I think all of that was just a punching 205 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: bag for probably unprocessed emotions. 206 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: Going again, we're giving everybody grace here, so you included Kevin. 207 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: And I watching it, I was like, this episode is 208 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: not nearly I mean, maybe my bar is also really 209 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: low coming into this. But this episode is not nearly 210 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: as like terrible, terribly offensive as I thought it was 211 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: in my head. Agree, and it's like, no, we were 212 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: just making this fun show. Yeah, it's not that serious. 213 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, like the gas leak is a little far fresh, 214 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: but like. 215 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: Whatever, it's not like we haven't done it before exactly, 216 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: and we got. 217 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: Some really good numbers, so we Blaine does You're My 218 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: Best Friend by Queen Love this song. Blaine Darren did 219 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: great in this number. It's very charming and very cute. 220 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: After watching it, it's also really funny to have done 221 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: the puppets and all the voices and like watching him 222 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: shoot this like it felt crazy is he at the time? 223 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: But like watching you're like this is adorable. 224 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: Can we talk about how we did the voices with 225 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: the puppets, like how that worked? 226 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: Yes? 227 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: Do you remember doing that? 228 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: Vaguely? I remember being there when he was shooting that scene, right, 229 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: and we did the video as he was shooting it. 230 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: Right, Yes. I think we were hiding behind like some 231 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: of those speakers and things like the products, and we 232 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: were next to the puppeteers and actually doing the voices 233 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: in real time. 234 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't like a pre recorder. 235 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: Which is really that was fun. That was like a 236 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: fun thing to get to switch up and do that 237 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: number is really great too, how it was shot and 238 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: having so. 239 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: Precious like you you're watching Sesame Street like a real 240 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: music video. It was really cute. I really liked it. 241 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: I thought he was great. For some reason, I conflated 242 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: this number with don't stop me Now. 243 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: I get that, yeah, you know, but. 244 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: Again, maybe there's a guest leak in my house. And 245 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: then Blaine is really kind of flying off the handles 246 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: here throughout this whole episode, We're going to see more 247 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: of that. But like he's just he's feeling I think 248 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: at the root of this, Blaine is feeling underappreciated and underheard, 249 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: and that's really the truth, and he's feeling hurt. 250 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: It's a similar thing to like what Rachel Barry has done, 251 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: is when they feel the most insecure, they get the loudest. 252 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, exactly, exactly. 253 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: Also, his ability to just make these very high level puppets. 254 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: At the speed and which he did them is. 255 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: And that the expertise is baffling. That is the craziest 256 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: part of the episode. Honestly. 257 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, good point because he. 258 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: Was pulling these out and then having like really strange 259 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: conversations like the one with Tina, the one with Kurt, 260 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: like these are really weird. 261 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really weird. Well, so the one with Tina 262 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: is funny because it's towards the end of the episode 263 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: where he's kind of coming back into his own body 264 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: and Tina kind of just shares with him that like 265 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: he actually does deserve and he has earned his place 266 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: to take some sumbrle of leadership, even though he apologizes 267 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: to all of us for acting so kind of out 268 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: of character, and we all, you know, decided and New 269 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: Directions took a vote and decided that Blaine was going 270 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: to get a solo. It's in sectionals wherever he wants 271 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: to do the a cappella or whatever. I was laughing 272 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: at that number because that scene because I remember, I'm 273 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: just thinking, like a bad behavior gets rewarded, and there 274 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: it is Blaine acting out and he gets a soul. 275 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: There it is again. But he does apologize on the way, 276 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: and he sends the puppets to New York and he 277 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: makes all of us puppets and we do what what 278 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: the Fox say, which we'll we'll get there. Yeah, exactly. 279 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: Can't give it away too early. Okay, Okay, let's go Jake, because. 280 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened to Jake. Jake's fall from 281 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: Grace is hard and. 282 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: Fast, and it's all in this episode. 283 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: But like he was mean last episode, he's mean this episode. 284 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: And he's like apparently slept with every single cheerleader and 285 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: breathe the cheerios. Yeah, it's so strange. He's a resident choreographer. 286 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: It's like they're also making him work. 287 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: He's acting out, he's acting a little angry. He's probably 288 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: feeling like the aftermath of doing something wrong and probably 289 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: feeling guilt and taking it out in the wrong or 290 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: expressing himself. 291 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: There's a lot, I mean, there's a lot of that 292 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: this episode. It's everyone is expressing themselves incorrectly and lessons 293 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: learned the thing we do get from this. 294 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: Though, Oh gosh, that's okay. 295 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: So he has a run in with Blaine, right, and 296 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: Blaine and here talking about like the situation in the 297 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: glee club, and he's like Blaine tells Jake, by the way, 298 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on in there in the 299 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: choir room, but go sit in the back corner. Jake 300 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: comes into the choir room and it's all fired up, 301 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: and it's like, I'm not helping you. You all suck 302 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: a dancing, especially you Tina. Why why and which I loved, 303 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: And he has one of the greatest numbers in Glee 304 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: her history, Like I knew around. 305 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: I remembered it, and of course you like remember it 306 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that was a big number for him. 307 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: He's talked about it on the show before, like you know, 308 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 1: he does nasty rhythmnation, but like to re visit that 309 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: and relive it and to watch him do that, I 310 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: didn't I even I appreciate that number so much, and 311 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't even think I appreciated as much as it 312 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: deserves for sure. 313 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: And also Paul mccrane, Oh my god. 314 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: It looks incredible. He looks incredible, he is dancing. Everybody 315 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: looks incredible. It is so good. It is actually now 316 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: i'm as I rewatched this. Hands down, one of the 317 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: best numbers we've ever done on Glake. 318 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: I mean, the level of cleanliness with the dancers has 319 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: never been seen on Glee before. Honestly, it was. 320 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: The black and white, the blackician. 321 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: The editing, like everybody was like really going in on 322 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: this number, and I couldn't believe it was in this episode. 323 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: Thank goodness. Yeah, I know exactly, and I was like, 324 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: thank goodness with this number was in this episode. Really, 325 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: this episode is just weird in general, but like really 326 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: lifted this episode up to another level. 327 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: I also didn't realize that I in my head it 328 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: was just Rhythm Nation because I remember the black and 329 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: white and like the Rhythm Nation set. I didn't realize 330 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: it was Nasty and Rhythmation because he started going into 331 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: Nasty and I'm like, wait, what is this the same? 332 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: And then it goes into it and we're by the 333 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: chain link fence and they're singing and it's. 334 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: For some reason I don't remember shooting this. 335 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: I do because that's what I remember. The only real 336 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 2: part of this song we saw was that they were 337 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: shooting that like all afternoon, Well, where were the back lot? 338 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: How was the back lot? That's I thought we were 339 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: on location. I was like, why don't I remember going there? 340 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: No, So it was when you're on a back lot 341 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: and you have all like the facades of New York. 342 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: It was on New York Street, the where Rhythm Nation 343 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: was shot. The black and white sack was inside of 344 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: one of those fake buildings. 345 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: God, and then we. 346 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: Shot the chain link fence somewhere close by, like the 347 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: backside of the blue sky on Paramount, right, So on 348 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: the Paramount there is a gigantic, huge, fake blue sky 349 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: and a water tank that is also a parking lot 350 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: that they can use to you know, stimulate I'm sorry, 351 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: stimulate the sea. 352 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: And it's like the end of Truman Show. 353 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and on the backside of that is the back lot, 354 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: which is all the fake New York stuff and that's. 355 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: What it was. 356 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: Just it was so beautiful. 357 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: Sheer perfection. I truly like embedded in my mind. It's 358 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: so impeccable. It's so impeccable from every every department, every talent, like. 359 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: Shocking, oh so good. It was so they would like 360 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: match cut back to the choir room and he's doing 361 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: the same thing, and like the cheerios were unbelievable and 362 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 2: those were not those were new cheerios. 363 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't know them, yes, no, we don't know them. 364 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: And they were phenomenal. 365 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: It was so good. 366 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Jacob is so stupid, he's so good. Austin 367 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 2: was walking by as I was watching it. He walked 368 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: by once and saw the puppets. He's like, oh, it's 369 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: this episode. He kept walking and then you walk by 370 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: again at the beginning of Nasty Rhythm Nation and just 371 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: stood there like, oh my god. I'm like, yeah, yeah, 372 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: this is insane. He had never seen it and it 373 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: was I mean, it's a real music video. 374 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, for sure, it's it's the beast music 375 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: video we've done on this. 376 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: And I'd love to talk to Paul mccrane about that, 377 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 2: because you know, more often than not directors coming to 378 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: the show without having knowledge or experienced shooting musical numbers. 379 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: This did not look like somebody who did not know 380 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 2: how to shoot musical numbers, Like this was done at 381 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: such a high level that this person understood it should. 382 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: Have been like Paris Barclay. Yes, you know, this person 383 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: knew how to he understood to dance right well. And 384 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: then Jake actually ends up apologizing to Marley at the end, 385 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: and uh, there was the pregnancy scare, which was was 386 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: a scare, so thankfully Brie is not pregnant, and but 387 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: he does apologize to Marley and says he misses her 388 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: every day and he look and from his performance it 389 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: seemed genuine to me that Jake was actually learning the 390 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: ror of his ways. But Marley was like, too late, 391 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: too little, too late, No, thank you, gotta go. 392 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: So that's a song we should have done on Glee. 393 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: Too little, too late. 394 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 395 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 396 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: Also at McKinley, we have Sue and I. As much 397 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: as a tyrant as Sue has been over the years, 398 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: and as much as it reminds me of Trump being 399 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 2: in power, Sue in a position of power, I do 400 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: enjoy this storyline a bit because it does seem like 401 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: she is trying, and you know when it gets to 402 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: like Sue showing her softer side, and you have this 403 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: thing where she's having the meeting with the superintendent and 404 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 2: the superintendent has to go get drinks and mistakes her 405 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: for a man. She gets really upset and she calls 406 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 2: in the reserves. She talks to Becky, she talks to Will, 407 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 2: she talks to Unique about how to embrace her femininity, 408 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: and we get to see some really beautiful work from 409 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: all of them. 410 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: Totally. 411 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: The scene with Unique is hilarious, and this number with 412 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: Will is phenomenal. 413 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: So cool again another musical video. 414 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: Gigantic meat cool number. 415 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: Wow. 416 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: This is when people are saying, we don't know how 417 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: you guys shot this show. I do not know how Paul. 418 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: And then you have like the set design, the builders, 419 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: like how are they doing all of this in one episode? 420 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: It's a big episode for him, gigantic. 421 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: Now we also have to talk about the the joy 422 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: of seeing Sue back in the day. 423 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the history. 424 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: With the hair. Everybody else is just it's it's great. 425 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: I loved the time jump. I loved her hair and 426 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: then her just coming out into modern day sho syla. Yes, 427 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: it was too good, very very good. The musical number 428 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: that they do her and will do cheek to cheek 429 00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: is gorgeous. 430 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: Also black and white, but different, different. 431 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: I love watching I always like watching them do musical 432 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: numbers together. 433 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 2: I do too, And like their voices fit the style 434 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: of music so well. 435 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: Yes, very much. And and Matt in like anything fred 436 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: Astaire drugs. Yeah, Territory is like that's I think he's 437 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: just so classical looking when he performs, like. 438 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, get him, get him dancing, get him in a 439 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: tuts you know, totally. 440 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: SU's going to get a makeover for Unique and then 441 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: she's going to do the instruction with the school board 442 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: she does get approved to be principle. 443 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did like the I love a moment 444 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: like this in a show of figgins popping up and 445 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: be like, gotcha, there's actually a gas leak and she's 446 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: irresponsible and this has been affecting the whole school sort 447 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: of you know, summarizing what happened in the episode. And 448 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: then she's like, no, actually, I knew you wouldn't be 449 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: able to fix it because you're incompetent. And I fixed it, 450 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 2: And you have a little flashback of her and there 451 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: at nighttime. Also, this is the second time she's been 452 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: at the school late at night, because the first time 453 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: she confiscates Blaine's Kurt puppet takes it from him, and 454 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: then Blaine is in there late at night stealing it back, 455 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: and she's also there again and says maybe my favorite 456 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 2: line in the entire episode. But she gets approved, and 457 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 2: her outfit also. 458 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: Is so wild. 459 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: It's really I was like, what is I don't happening here? 460 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: But she gets, you know, unanimously approved, and then she 461 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: asks the superintendent out for drinks and he turns her down, 462 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: and it's heartbreaking. 463 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: I always find it that I feel bad I shouldn't 464 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: feel bad for Sue because she's so evil sometimes, but 465 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: she's so undeniably good that you have to feel bad 466 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: for her because she is human, Like Jane makes her 467 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: so human that you're like, oh fine, I get it. 468 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: When a woman of my stature needs to makeup, he 469 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: shearings up all her best guys. But unfortunately Porcelain this attitude. 470 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: Myself is in New York, so God must pad with 471 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: this mistake. I turned to you, Jesus Christ. It's actually insane. 472 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: I do like all the references. One of my favorite 473 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: running jokes in this episode is how everybody keeps just 474 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: popping over to New York every week. 475 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: Well, right, so Kurt wants Blaine to come see Pamela 476 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: Lansbury's debut performance at the club Callbacks, and he's like, 477 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: I know you were just here, but like come, Yeah, 478 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: Blaine can't go. 479 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 2: Because he got caught stealing that puppet and he's in attention. 480 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: I'll speaking the detention scene. 481 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: I really loved, very very funny. What a weird group 482 00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: of misfits in the Yeah, but it was really it's 483 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: very funny. Yeah, Yeah, I really really. 484 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: Liked it, and I wish there was like a little 485 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 2: bit more of that. Because this episode had such big 486 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: set pieces in musical numbers, it was nice to sort 487 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: of in the simplicity of like whatever that was, and 488 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: it felt really grounded and real. And also Lauren Potter 489 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: was on one this episode. 490 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: Oh boy, the line she had like back to back episodes, 491 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: just on one, she's she's it's coming up too, Like 492 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: there's more like we're not getting rid of her just 493 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: yet Blaine, So yeah, Blaine also doesn't make it too 494 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: Kurt's debut, but nobody shows up to their performance. 495 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: Did you have in your life, like whether it's in 496 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: high school or college, because you went to college for 497 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: musical theater, like situations like this, like were you faced 498 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: with like, oh, there was a performance, nobody shows up, 499 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: Like it's embarrassing, or like oh god, I can't believe 500 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: we have to perform there because that's not cool, that's 501 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: noting we're supposed to be doing. 502 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: No, I didn't really work like that. Everything was so 503 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: insular in college that like students showed up, you had 504 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: friends who showed up. Students showed up. We weren't really 505 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: performing in outside venues except for the York Theater, which 506 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: was like affiliated with it. But like people showed up 507 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: like it wasn't. It wasn't really like that, And we 508 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: also weren't like I don't know, maybe I just didn't 509 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: create a cover band that like right, you know, was 510 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: trying to do open mic nights. Yeah, that was not 511 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: definitely you know what I mean, Like I wasn't her 512 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, it wasn't. That wasn't really the case 513 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: in musical theater schools because everything was so insular and 514 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: everybody just like showing up whether they wanted to like 515 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: hate on it or love it. 516 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: So was there anybody in your school started a band? 517 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure, like you're already doing so much work, 518 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: Like you guys were doing a billion shows a year, Like, 519 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: how are you also doing a band? Right? 520 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: I guess it's the people who were really not getting 521 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: to utilize their like instruments for like things like like 522 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: that you wanted to do music in stature or something 523 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: like that, But now we were so busy, and musical 524 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: theater was like such a focus that like we couldn't 525 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: focus on anything else. I couldn't possibly do something more, 526 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, so serious. Everything was so serious kind of 527 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: like nyata. But again, yeah, they have more time because 528 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: time isn't real and that's true. 529 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's pissed off because they don't want to 530 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: perform at the musical theater bar and like that's embarrassing, 531 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: we can't do it. And I got to say Adam 532 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: Lambert coming through with just being so reasonable and understanding 533 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: and giving Kurt the space to figure out his leadership 534 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: skills or lack thereof. 535 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: Mmmmm. And they do do this great Madonna number. It 536 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: happened so fast and I was like, whoa right? 537 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: And I remember like, oh, this is the start of 538 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: shoving Demi in the back, like not giving her something. 539 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: She's playing an instrument, she's in the back, Like she 540 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: needs to be out. 541 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: There with everybody doing those rips, giving the song. 542 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like we're not getting enough Demi, like you 543 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: have Jammy Levado, the best voices of the generation on 544 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: the show, use her. 545 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: Greed or like don't just get get her out of there? Yes, exactly. 546 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: Do we know how much longer she's on because I 547 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: feel like that wouldn't have lasted long. 548 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't last super long. She's off pretty soon because 549 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: she's busy. And it's like if you're using her greate, 550 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: if you're not She's got to go. Yeah, for sure. 551 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: So they do the performance and luckily there's one The 552 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: one man there shows somebody who runs the Williamsburg Music Hall, 553 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: which is like a really cool the exact venue they 554 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: want to be in. So like it all worked out. 555 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: It works out, you know. 556 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: Sam the producer was making the point of the fact 557 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: that there is a piece of media that there is 558 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: a band with Adam Lambert, Demilavado, Crisical for Anaya, Rivera 559 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: and Leah is truly a dream and I feel like 560 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: there's so much potential there. I don't know if they 561 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: do it or explore it enough, but with all of 562 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: them in a band, it's really and I don't think 563 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: I think you have Demi back there like in the background, 564 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: because you're like making it have to be a real 565 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: band with like the live instruments and all that. I say, 566 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: just like you didn't need all that. Go the way 567 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: of like Abba, give no rules. 568 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: Let them sing to a track, you know, open up 569 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: her mouth, open that trap, you know what I mean, 570 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: let her blow because like she's hands down one of 571 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: the best vocalists we've ever. 572 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: You have so many incredible singers and a band together. 573 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: What Leah, get them singing together. 574 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted more vocals. 575 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: It's because the vocals we got were incredible. 576 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: Obviously they were great, but like we could do more, put. 577 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: Them all on every song. I don't know, I understand stand, 578 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: like putting two of. 579 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: Them on a song, agreed, get it, get it out there. 580 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: Also, how do they just have all this money to 581 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: be doing things? They have new outfits. Kurtson's a voucher. 582 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: This is like Kevin, This is like when one section 583 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: was couldn't afford the US for RDY, but we have 584 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: massive Lady Gaga sets and costumes. It doesn't exist. It 585 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: doesn't exist, only sus keeping track of it. I mean, 586 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: Will wanted six hundred dollars for national costumes, but like 587 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: we just did Katie Gaga with a full tar and 588 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: rope when with the wheelchair attached, I'm sorry. 589 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: I like so points out the expensive piece of that 590 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: is the big like air bag attached to my wheelchair. 591 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: But it was like, I'm sorry, what about every set 592 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: piece in that or roar? They're the fake shrubs, the 593 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: full plants. 594 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: Okay, well let's talk about what's the fox say? Okay, Now, 595 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: the thing I remember the most about what the fox 596 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: say is that you had to do those dingingings. No 597 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: wonder you hated to do that number. That is the 598 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: most annoying thing. I remember. Also the plants inside. 599 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: Yes, you love a indoor plant. 600 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: I've changed my ways. I've grown up a little bit. 601 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: But at this time, in this year, up until this year, 602 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: we've learned. Everybody learned that day on set there are 603 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: all these plants on indoor plants on the stage to 604 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: create the atmosphere. I hate plants inside. I hated them. 605 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: I think there's bugs, there's dirt everywhere. It makes a mess. 606 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: Like I didn't see the purpose of like the good 607 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: oysgen and things that they do for you. And I 608 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: didn't like a plant inside my house at the time. 609 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: Changed my ways, but everybody was like very floored by 610 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: this thing that like Jenna doesn't like. 611 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: Plants, like hatred. 612 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: I was so mad and we had to kneel behind them, 613 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: and I was like dirty, like get out of what about? 614 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 2: During the what about roar, we had plants. 615 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: Not real plants I see, are real plants that they 616 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: brought in from like a nursery or something. And it 617 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: was a weird number. I'm not gonna lie like it 618 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: was weird and after a much the whole episode, like 619 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: the gas leak was weird, but the numbers weren't. And 620 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: so this was a very It was a slight departure, and. 621 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: It was like a reverse of what should have been happening. 622 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: Right, because we had really nation in this episode, right, 623 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: and then you have what the Fox are. 624 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like everyone's internal thoughts are exquisite, high taste, 625 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: high production value. 626 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: And there's us with puppets and duck noses ding ding 627 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: ding ding ding ding. 628 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: It's so weird. 629 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: I you hated at this number. 630 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: I didn't hate it as much as I thought I 631 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: would watching it, and time and time again, I think 632 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: Ryan is correct or some of the things the numbers 633 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 2: and choices I was doubting at the time as a child. 634 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 2: I'm watching now and I'm like, I get it. Yeah, 635 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: I do get it, and like, why it's not so 636 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 2: out of left field that we did this number? 637 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: Not at all? It was also very popular. 638 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and our turnaround was really quick, Like if a 639 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: song became really popular, we could put it in the 640 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: episode and it would be on the air in three weeks. 641 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 2: That's so pretty quick. And so I think I think 642 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 2: I was just like going through it. 643 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: I think that again makes sense. 644 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was fully projecting onto one. Also 645 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: like I didn't like that song. It was like when 646 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 2: we had to do Friday but who, Like I don't really, 647 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 2: but it was like I don't. It feels so stupid 648 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: to have to commit your time and energy to doing 649 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: such like a stupid song. Yeah, I get it, okay, 650 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: but it's also like that's the job, that's the gig, right, 651 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: Like this is what we're doing. Not everybody gets to 652 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: do the songs that we love all the time. 653 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 654 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 2: And also like the writers have a purpose for doing 655 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 2: this and like just do it. Stop being a little 656 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 2: we're not the writers. Yeah, And I was shocked by 657 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: how like I thought it was funny. I thought it 658 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: made sense. I do think Leah giving belting during what 659 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: the Fox Say is so insane. I was like, this 660 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: song is doesn't deserve this good vocal. 661 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: Right, it's a little crazy, but let's do it. Let's 662 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: go for it. 663 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it like we've done Turkey Lurky, like. 664 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, change changed woman. 665 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 2: Exactly, Like if you and I are down for that, 666 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 2: this isn't that far off. In a number of ways. 667 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 2: So like, I don't I've been reformed. I think my 668 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 2: mental breakdown and like me looking into the camera several 669 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 2: times during this episode, because it felt like we were 670 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: on a like I honestly felt like we had lost 671 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: the plot. 672 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, I get it, and. 673 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 2: Like what is the show? I don't recognize it anymore? 674 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. I don't think that's what 675 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 2: was happening, right, I think I lost the plot and 676 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: I couldn't recognize what we were doing anymore. I think 677 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: that was just a me that's all right, and we 678 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 2: were all just losing our minds a bit. 679 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: And so I I think makes sense though why we 680 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: have such weird, odd memories of this episode. And you 681 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: could have just been having some emotional turmoil during this 682 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: episode as well, that you know, producted onto what the 683 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: the thing was? Like me with moving out? You know 684 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: I was wrong? 685 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 2: What is the next episode? Christmas? 686 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: Previously anarchy? 687 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: And so these were the this was the. 688 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: Stretch where we borned. 689 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: I really was like not nice, like the angry Kevin. 690 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: This remember this is like Kevin two point zero as 691 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 2: you guys would call me. Yes, I am I started 692 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 2: to like speak up and speak out and was just 693 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: I think I think it was misguided, you know. I 694 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: think it was the long days. We were tired. I 695 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: was really I remember the feeling of how tired I 696 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: was frustrated. I was so frustrated. 697 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: This was a I'm looking now ahead a little bit 698 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: into the plot of previously on her Christmas, and I 699 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: now remember where we were and we weren't well. 700 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I just needed a break. I think 701 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 2: maybe I just I don't think I had anything to 702 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 2: do with the show, to be honest, I think maybe 703 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 2: I was just there was a. 704 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: Haze in front of our eyes at this point. I 705 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: remember shooting like Mary's boy Child and doing like the 706 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: Nativity scene and being like, where are we? We're in the. 707 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: Twilight zone, isn't it. I just didn't expect this necessarily, 708 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: Like it's so obvious of why, Like, oh, I didn't 709 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: lose my mind the whole show until now, Like we 710 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: had no shit. 711 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: You can't be in a you can't be in like 712 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: a spiral and like see the logical side of things, yeah, 713 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: like it's just not the way it goes, so like 714 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: we can't be grieving and also know what's coming out 715 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: of what's going to be on the other shode. 716 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: You only have so much capacity, and like our capacity 717 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,959 Speaker 2: was fully taken showing up to do the job fintion 718 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 2: hours and yeah shows all our energy. 719 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: Oh god. 720 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: And so in hindsight it was like, oh, I wish 721 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: you know. Unfortunately, Yeah, we have been through this several 722 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: times now, and it's like you get better at recognizing 723 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: what you need to deal with these things, and it's like, oh, 724 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 2: I had no idea. 725 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that we've seen the light and that 726 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 1: we were able to understand this on a different level 727 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: this time around. 728 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: I think that's what happened, right, I think that's. 729 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely what happened. Then, is one and ten percent one happened? 730 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 2: Because this episode is not that crazy? 731 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: No it's not. And there's some really good talent and 732 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: like performances. 733 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 2: A lot of great musical it's not that bad. No, sorry, Ryan, 734 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: you're right. 735 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: Yep, we were wrong. Uh, let's create the performances into 736 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: the groove A Hey You're my best friend, A nasty red, 737 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: the Nation A plus plus the high as it can go, 738 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: cheek to cheek, A he the Fox, B I love this. 739 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: That's not so bad. Okay, that's that's a very good average. 740 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: It's an average. Let's do some tarty takes, so Auchi's Honestly, 741 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: I have to say, like Sue says a lot of 742 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: offensive things in this episode. So does Becky. But also 743 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: Sue being mistaken for a dude in this episode, or 744 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: like being one of the guys is a little bit 745 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: also announce you for her and Brie. 746 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 2: Brie in general. 747 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: M No, wonder she's gone. 748 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 2: I felt that through the screen. Damn, Jenna, I don't disagree. 749 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 2: Best dance move, are you kidding me? N yes, like 750 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 2: honorable mention to Matt Morrison, of course, but Jacob Jacob 751 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 2: and the entire dance team. 752 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: Tears in my eyes. It's so good. 753 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: There's this part of Rhythm Nation. They're on one of 754 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 2: the I don't know what do you call it, like 755 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 2: one of the levels, and they're in a straight line 756 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 2: and then they go against the walls and they break 757 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 2: out into a diagonal in quick succession, and it is 758 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 2: so clear, it is beautiful. I gasped. 759 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 1: I was like, I actually have teers in my eyes 760 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: thinking about that number. I have to watch. 761 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: It was so good. 762 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: One of the best songs we'll ever during the series. 763 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: The best performances, best song, Nasty Perms by prop. 764 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 2: Oh, all the puppets, I mean, all those puppeteers are 765 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 2: so talented. The people who made the puppets, I know 766 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 2: they were so to be talented. It's such a gift 767 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 2: and like a thing you don't get to be exposed 768 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 2: to that often, like the behind the scenes of and 769 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 2: to work with those people. That was really special. 770 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: Yes, it really was. It was very cool. I wish 771 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: we'd appreciated it more. 772 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry to anyone if you were there working and 773 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: we weren't that nice or excited about it. 774 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: You never know with us at that point. 775 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 2: I I'm sure I was not at my finest. I 776 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 2: know I was not, so shoot crap shoot Yeah. Best line, 777 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 2: my favorite line of the entire episode when Blaine gets 778 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: caught stealing the puppet again and Blaine goes, hey, current puppet, 779 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 2: and so he goes, this is contraband. And if I 780 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 2: catch you with your hand up the butt of anything 781 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 2: that isn't human, you're in a world of trouble. 782 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: But like brilliant. 783 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:09,720 Speaker 2: But if you did catch it, I don't anyway, it's brilliant. Also, 784 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 2: that's sorry. That doesn't happen when he gets caught sneaking 785 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: in right, that happens the first time he gets caught 786 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 2: with the yeah. 787 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: Performance MVP, I mean a singular performance shake up for 788 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: rhythmation to an honorable mention. And I think Darren overall 789 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: this this episode, he's you know, he's got a lot 790 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: going on and has a full arc yeah with a 791 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: puppet Yeah. 792 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 2: And I think you couldn't have picked a better person 793 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 2: to have this stuff with the puppets than Darren. That 794 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 2: is the exact person, my person, that's right, because he 795 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 2: loved it. He was so happy doing it and like godspeed, 796 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,240 Speaker 2: he was the absolute right person. He was the perfect 797 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 2: person for it. Okay, so before we go shit, we 798 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: found on TikTok jen Nah, there was a trend going 799 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 2: on on TikTok. I don't know if you saw it 800 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 2: or you would have, like it was a lot of 801 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,760 Speaker 2: animals like filming this dog and be like dogs are stupid. 802 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 2: I don't think people should have dogs anymore. And the 803 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 2: camera would flip around and it would look like an 804 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 2: accident and it'd be a cat on the other side 805 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 2: of it, looking like it was filming the video. 806 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, like okay, or dogs. 807 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 2: Being like ugh, cats are so annoying. People should not 808 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 2: own cats anymore. It's flip around the camera, flip around 809 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 2: to be a dog, like, oh right, I got caught. 810 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 2: So this one is by hopeless and forty five on TikTok. 811 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 2: It says guys reading books is so outdated, we should 812 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 2: just get rid of it. And then the care of 813 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 2: camera fhlps around and it's a picture of it, like, 814 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 2: oh shit. I was hesitant to put this one in there, 815 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: but I think it's so funny. And obviously she can read. 816 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: I cannot that I believe that this is shell. This 817 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: lives on, like even though it's been debunked, and like 818 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: everybody knows, like she can read, and she's like played 819 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: into it as well. Like the fact that it still 820 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: lives on is insane. 821 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 2: And that's why I what I did for the record. 822 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 2: I was hesitant to even. 823 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: I hear you, But I think that's because I don't 824 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: want to apperpetuate this. No, no, no, I don't think 825 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: you are. I had a friend text me last night 826 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: about it. Well, it's funny because I went on, is 827 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,720 Speaker 1: it making a research evering in? And they had asked 828 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: about like some you know, tabloids and things, and like 829 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: I talked about the lea, I can't read the kind 830 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: of thing, and it was just so funny. It's such 831 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: a funny thing. Everybody laughs at it now because we 832 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: know it's not true and it's actually ridiculous. 833 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 2: But I hope people know it's not true. 834 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess it's still living on. I 835 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 1: don't know. It's ridiculous. Okay, Well that is the episode. 836 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 2: I can't believe it. I didn't hate it. We did it. 837 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: We did it, We did it, you got through it. 838 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm shocked, Jenna, I am shocked. 839 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: I am shocked too. I'm actually sucked too. I was 840 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised. 841 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 2: Now. What I am scared about is previously on there 842 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 2: at Christmas. 843 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going in with eyes wide open. I 844 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: feel like I'm going in knowing that this is a satire. 845 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going in knowing that we were 846 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: kind of losing our minds at this point, and I 847 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 1: feel like we might. It's not that it's going to 848 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: be not be wild and wildly inappropriate, because I remember 849 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: it being wildly inappropriate, but the episode itself maybe not 850 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: as as a whole as bad, but there were definitely 851 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: wildly inappropriate moments and I was like, why are we 852 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: shooting this? 853 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 2: And speaking of satire, I think part of my spiral 854 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 2: whatever was happening at the time, I thought the show 855 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 2: was taking itself too seriously, and I have said that 856 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 2: for years, like season five and six, we forgot we 857 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 2: were satire and we started taking ourselves too seriously. I 858 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 2: think that was wrong. I think I was taking it 859 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 2: too seriously and I was forgetting that we were a 860 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 2: satire and unable to recognize the satirical nature of some 861 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 2: of what's going on. 862 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 1: Fair enough. 863 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 2: So I think that's on me M, and did not 864 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 2: think I'd be having these oprah aha moments. But here 865 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 2: we are. M. That's what it feels like, a revelation, Jenna, 866 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 2: everything is. 867 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: True for me. That okay, public Master, we did it. 868 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 2: We did next Yes, everyone buckle up next week previously 869 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 2: any Christmas and that's what you really missed. Bye, Thanks 870 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 2: for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and that's 871 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 2: what you really miss pod. Make sure to write us 872 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 2: a review and leave us five stars. See you next time.