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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning.

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Speaker 1: Combat Levity Levity Donks. It is Friday, November twentieth, twenty twenty. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's time for Morning Combat. I am one half of

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Speaker 1: your three times a week live MK hosting duo. It's

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Speaker 1: the BBC Brian Campbell, CBS Sports from the Left Coast

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Speaker 1: with love this week, fresh off of Thursday night's Ring

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Speaker 1: City USA debut and NBC Sports Network shout out to me,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. I want to introduce though, my

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Speaker 1: He's been doing great work on CBS Sports HQ. If

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Speaker 1: his front yard. He loves the homeless. It's Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 1: Luke Fired up Orange Background Friday.

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Speaker 2: You've gone I cannot hear Brian. OK, we lost you

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Speaker 2: in zoom BC. Hold on by my name is Luke

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Speaker 2: Thomas situated? He is in a hotel room in California.

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Speaker 2: Yes he did. If you guys didn't see last night

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Speaker 2: like ringside reporting for Ring City USA. I think is

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Speaker 2: the show I dvrd it And he had gloves on

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Speaker 2: because those gloves fit quite well. So here on Morning

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Speaker 2: Combat BC will be hosting today. We can get this

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Speaker 2: worked out. But what we're gonna get today, let's se

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Speaker 2: McGregor versus Parier. We're gonna get to UFC two fifty

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Speaker 2: five preview, Bellator preview. All right, did you guys get

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Speaker 2: Apologies for the issues. Brian is in his hotel room

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Speaker 2: in LA and we're trying to make this remote setup work.

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Speaker 2: see him on the zoom. He's oh yeah, Brian, you

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Speaker 2: hear you again, Brian?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you know Brian Luke. You know hotel WiFi, right?

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Speaker 1: You know you ever bet in this section of Hollywood? Luke,

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Speaker 1: for as long as this lasts. Morning Combat does have

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Speaker 2: I we'll tell you my favorite line from Stripes when

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Speaker 1: Which maybe you and I with this show one day, Luke,

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with that. If I yank on

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Speaker 1: any of these chords, the operation comes down. Hey, Looke,

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Speaker 2: Why don't you tell them what we know? All right?

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Speaker 1: We do know that the Morning Combat doncumentary, the Return

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Speaker 2: And also, my live chat got dicked up because of Comcast,

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Speaker 1: Hey, if you like MK bonus content content, how about

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Speaker 1: whatever holiday you celebrate, and by the way, Luke, Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly what might get Jones, Izzy Jones, Stipe, You know,

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Speaker 1: Luke. Also in the news this week from the UFC

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Speaker 2: Year, Yes, you definitely will. But the question is what

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Speaker 1: Look, he brings that in the MMA cage, though I'm

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Speaker 1: Man. No, Look it's like it's like Kimbo Slice and

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Speaker 1: dropped because of agent decline, but also again the matchmaking.

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Speaker 1: The Rya Hall fight didn't really make a ton of sense.

431
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 1: That Derek Brunson fight didn't, the Karen Nair fight didn't.

432
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: We've been through that on and on. But here's the

433
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 1: original quote from Coker about two weeks ago, when MMA

434
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Speaker 1: Junkie asked him, he said, I have a lot of

435
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Speaker 1: respect for Anderson. He's definitely one of the greatest fighters

436
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Speaker 1: in the history. I really haven't thought about it, but

437
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm happy with the way our roster is

438
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Speaker 1: heading in the fighters that we have now. I think

439
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: that's my statement on it. So whether he was similar

440
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 1: to that in talking to you on HQ. It still

441
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: feels very open ended. It still feels like, Okay, I'm

442
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: not gonna go out of my way to lust after him,

443
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 1: maybe because I don't want him to offer some ridiculous price.

444
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Speaker 1: But Luke for Doom just signed Fabricio Verdom just signed

445
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Speaker 1: with PFL, something we talked about the other day. You

446
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: still kind of have the potential to make one more

447
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: big fad or fight that draws giant ratings and even

448
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 1: could be a pay per view. I don't believe Scott

449
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: Koker is against by any means the idea of bringing

450
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Speaker 1: in Anderson Silva, putting him in a fun fight against

451
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Speaker 1: Fador and making some fun money and attention off of that.

452
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Speaker 1: And Luke, tell me if I'm wrong, tell me right

453
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: now if I'm wrong. Okay, this is the key question

454
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Speaker 1: for you. Is Anderson Silva in play in the middleweight

455
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Speaker 1: division in belat or if he joined to be a

456
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Speaker 1: legitimate title contender. I'm not so sure. He isn't.

457
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Speaker 2: Bro he can't beat Musaucy, can he? I don't think

458
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Speaker 2: he can.

459
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's okay, probably not, But could he be everyone

460
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: else if he if he'd I mean, it's there's an

461
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: if that if he doesn't crumble, if his leg doesn't

462
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: break again, if if you know. But still, I'm just saying, like,

463
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Speaker 1: he's not competitive enough for elite UFC top tier matchmaking,

464
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Speaker 1: but he might find longevity if a Belatre wanted him.

465
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Speaker 2: Yes, listen, if you match make Anderson correctly and you

466
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Speaker 2: put him up against guys who are not top fifteen

467
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Speaker 2: middleweights in the world, there's a very good chance he

468
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: can win. Now here's the thing, though, where do you

469
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Speaker 2: have to go in terms of middleweights for Anderson to

470
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Speaker 2: be Anderson again before he can just absolutely stunt on

471
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Speaker 2: folks and do magic and blah blah blah. That's a

472
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Speaker 2: little bit different. Folks are saying, Oh, you can just

473
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Speaker 2: give him, you know, belatore middleweight whoever's and he'll win. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 2: it's probably true. In fact, I think it's very true.

475
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Speaker 2: But what's it gonna take to get the guy back

476
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Speaker 2: who was ragdawling people or front kicking him in the

477
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Speaker 2: face or flying kneeing or whatever. I don't know how

478
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Speaker 2: far down you have to drop to get that. In

479
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Speaker 2: my hunches, I don't think we want to find out.

480
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Speaker 2: So it's I think that's what Coker might be up

481
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: against Like, if you're signing Anderson, what are you signing

482
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Speaker 2: him for because you want to get a few more

483
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Speaker 2: you know, ratings out of him. I mean, you're on

484
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Speaker 2: CBS Sports on Thursdays and not the most ideal time slot. Again,

485
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Speaker 2: I don't think ratings are no concern, but don't think

486
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Speaker 2: it's a pre eminent one. You're not on pay per view,

487
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Speaker 2: you're not even on Saturdays at this point, is he

488
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Speaker 2: really the guy you want to be investing? And seems

489
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Speaker 2: to me that you want young guys who are on

490
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Speaker 2: the come up. You know, your logan storlies, your Joey Davis's,

491
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Speaker 2: your aj McKees, guys who can turn and burn, stay healthy,

492
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Speaker 2: who you can develop. You can get interested in signing

493
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Speaker 2: old dudes for a Thursday show. I don't know how

494
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Speaker 2: much sense that a right, well, let me.

495
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Speaker 1: Let me stop you on the Thursday part of that,

496
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Speaker 1: like this, Obviously, it would feel this show, we're gonna

497
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Speaker 1: talk shortly about how homegrown aj McKee is like the

498
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: next breakout star. So it would seem to go against

499
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Speaker 1: the vision that Coker's trying to create to go back

500
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Speaker 1: into the old school playbook and sign the cast offs. Yes,

501
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Speaker 1: I agree, with you. But and this is no inside

502
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Speaker 1: information from being in the company. We just know from

503
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Speaker 1: the Viacom CBS merger that Bellator is in the same

504
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: family as both Showtime and Regular CBS. We also know

505
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Speaker 1: that Coker had a crap ton of success in the past,

506
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Speaker 1: Luke going on Big CBS, putting Fador on there, getting

507
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Speaker 1: a stupid amount of ratings, just as Kimbo Slice and

508
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: the lead XC did right before that. So if you

509
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Speaker 1: wanted to do Anderson Silva and fad Or, I think

510
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: you would have options, whether the pay per view arm,

511
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: whether the national television arm where it wouldn't be Thursday

512
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Speaker 1: nights on CBS Sports Network, it would be let's pitch

513
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Speaker 1: our tent. And that's what you know. Scott Coker's got

514
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Speaker 1: the whole tent pole idea. When he does go for

515
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Speaker 1: a major Luke when it's Belatoor MSG, he pulls out

516
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: the jail suns in the face and it still seems

517
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: like it's part of the business model.

518
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Speaker 2: So yeah, so listen to the extent that you could

519
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Speaker 2: really make a marquee event on a marquee night, marquee venue.

520
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna stay in Mohegan, Okay, so maybe

521
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 2: that's out of the question. But you know Big CBS

522
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 2: or you know, Showtime or something like that, and it's

523
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Speaker 2: a Saturday Night and you can really hype it up. Sure,

524
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Speaker 2: but so long as it's been as so long as

525
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Speaker 2: it continues to be what it has been, which is

526
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 2: a fine product, but it's not suited for someone like Anderson,

527
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Speaker 2: it makes no sense.

528
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Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. All right, let's roll it on here,

529
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Speaker 1: Luke with the weekend preview Saturday Night from the damn Apex.

530
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Speaker 1: It is UFC two fifty five, and it is a

531
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Speaker 1: pay per view. It's not getting a ton of love.

532
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Speaker 1: And you know, there's reasons why. It's end of the year.

533
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Speaker 1: It's not a loaded card. Potential fights fell off. We

534
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: do have two title fights though, and both take place

535
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Speaker 1: in the flyweight division, men's and women's. The main event

536
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: divison Figaredo taking on Alex Perez, the late replacement for

537
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Speaker 1: Cody Garbrand. Luke, you know, with all said and done

538
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Speaker 1: about the idea of like Alex Perez being the most

539
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Speaker 1: you know, unheralded, anonymous pay per view you know, b

540
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Speaker 1: side in a title fight, all that might be true.

541
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Speaker 1: But if you can put aside the fact that if

542
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: you don't get it for free like us, because we're

543
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: journalists and you have to pay for this, it's a

544
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: pretty damn good matchup. Still, I need and want to

545
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Speaker 1: find out right now if Devison Figuredo is the next

546
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Speaker 1: in line, after Mighty Mouse, after Sahudo, for somebody who

547
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Speaker 1: can make this division their own. He seems to have

548
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Speaker 1: the goods. Is this gonna be a showcase form or

549
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: do you see a tough match?

550
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Speaker 2: I'll say this, I don't you know, Listen, whether this

551
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: fight is worth paying for as a consumer is a

552
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Speaker 2: choice that consumers have to make. We don't really have

553
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Speaker 2: to worry about that. It's not a calculation that we

554
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: think about. So we just think about the fight and

555
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: how good it could be. There's plenty of reason to

556
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: think it could be a perfectly good fight, again, one

557
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: worth paying for. That's a very different consideration, but by itself, Listen,

558
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Speaker 2: Perez does have a loss to Benevitez, a bad stoppage loss,

559
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Speaker 2: and Benavidez has Excuse me, I should say Figoredo has

560
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: two stoppage wins back to back, in fact over Benavidez.

561
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: But I would be very careful about playing MMA math,

562
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Speaker 2: I do think Figaredo deserves to be your favorite. He

563
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: is good everywhere, good submissions, good ground and pound, very

564
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: good at latching onto positions and holding them in grappling contexts,

565
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: physically strong, and obviously we've seen his knockout power. It's

566
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: tremendous at this weight class. So he's a force to

567
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Speaker 2: be recorded with and I look forward to seeing him

568
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: compete for those reasons. But you know, Perez is interesting

569
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Speaker 2: in his growth. Two years ago. You can look at

570
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Speaker 2: the loss to Benavitez and you can say, ah, this

571
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: isn't the guy that can beat Figaredo, And again I'm

572
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: going to favor Figoredo to win. But from age twenty

573
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: six to age twenty eight, under the tutelage of Colin Oyama,

574
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 2: he has gotten way better. In fact, his last fight

575
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Speaker 2: with the winner Juicio Formika, who has beaten the champion.

576
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: Because you can play that mma math both ways, he

577
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: looked tremendous with those leg kicks. I mean it was

578
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: a really really dominant performance and easy one frankly in

579
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Speaker 2: that regard. So I still feel like the smart money

580
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Speaker 2: is on Figuredo, but Perez is a reasonably worthy contender.

581
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Speaker 2: He could make it interesting. He's much busier than Figaredo.

582
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Speaker 2: I think that volume might play a factor, especially if

583
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Speaker 2: there's any kind of weight cutting issue as the fight

584
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: goes late. So do I love it? BC, I don't

585
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Speaker 2: love it, but I definitely don't hate it, and I

586
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Speaker 2: think it will be a perfectly fine fight, could be

587
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Speaker 2: could be surprising.

588
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned that interesting footnote with the MMA math.

589
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's ever been a title fight in

590
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Speaker 1: which both guys are fresh off a stoppage win over

591
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: the only person to defeat their opponent in the UFC.

592
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Speaker 1: It's just that weird sort of way it played out,

593
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Speaker 1: you know. I we had we had both Figuredo and

594
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Speaker 1: Perez on Morning Combat this week, and you know, they

595
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Speaker 1: didn't want to play into the idea that they can

596
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Speaker 1: learn anything or that that means anything. And I think

597
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: that's the smart case. But I think for the division, Luke, look,

598
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Speaker 1: you kind of hope that Figaredo can develop a ring.

599
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: He seems to be the right character with the flashiness

600
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: and he was shirtless in my interview. With the dark shades,

601
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: the shripe and the hair, I mean, he's got some

602
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: flavor there. I know, the language barrier is still a thing,

603
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: but he carries himself as a badass. He's evolved into

604
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: just this destroyer who can beat you on the feet

605
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: as much as on the ground. You would think with potential,

606
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Speaker 1: you know, potential big fight against Garbrandt, the unknown factor

607
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: of Wilson Hudo ever come back, and then just that

608
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: pretty fair line of fun guys that he could fight.

609
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: If he wins the Askarovs, the morenos the roy Volves,

610
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: he would be the right guy to build around him,

611
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: be your face. The contrary to that is Alex Perez,

612
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: who's gone overnight from you know nothing to a potential

613
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Speaker 1: to cash in and make his moment.

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Speaker 3: You know.

615
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Speaker 1: I like the connection with he's the first Dana White

616
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Speaker 1: Contender Series fighter to get a title shot. I like

617
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: that he's what seven and one since joining the UFC.

618
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Speaker 1: But I think all the things that he does good,

619
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Speaker 1: Figuredo might do them a little better. And talking to

620
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Speaker 1: Perez about what this fight would look like, he's like,

621
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Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be a flyway war. It's gonna

622
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Speaker 1: be wild if you're willing, not just able. If you're willing,

623
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Speaker 1: your intention is to get into hell with Figaredo. Look,

624
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Speaker 1: he lives there bro, I think he'll take you there.

625
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: He'll he'll he'll find a spot for you. He'll rip

626
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: up the floorboards and find that basement apartment in hades

627
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: and leave you there like mister Benavidez was left. I

628
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a spectacular win. It's gonna

629
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: be competitive, but I think Figaredo is gonna get that finish.

630
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you look at Perez and aside from

631
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: the volume work, and he does have nearly two to

632
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: one on strikes landed permittent. Not quite but pretty close,

633
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: and you say himself, that could be a difference maker,

634
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: especially if the fight goes late. But Figaredo has such

635
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: an ability to just change the trajectory of a round

636
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: or a fight with a big punch or you know,

637
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: show you he can get to the back and then

638
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: once he finds his way to the back of one time,

639
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: he can get it there a second or third time

640
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: if it needs to. He's got good ground and pound,

641
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: he's got good submissions, strong as shit like he has.

642
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: You know, he's a major, major force to be reckoned with.

643
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: I hope he has no weight cutting issues. I don't

644
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: suspect that he will, but you know, provided he can

645
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: get his weight on on track, Perez could make it competitive,

646
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: but it is hard to see how he has the

647
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: upper hand over a guy like Figurreator. We're gonna have

648
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: to wait BC probably for that Cody Garbrand fight or

649
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: somebody else to come along before we can really see

650
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: him challenge.

651
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry, Luke about the I got darkness on

652
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 1: one side, I've got light on the other. It's kind

653
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: of a you know, it's a representation of light life.

654
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: You know, you stand right in the middle and you're

655
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of gonna choose which side. I'm gonna try to

656
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: stay toward the light here, Luke, it's time for the

657
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: co main event talk where the women's flyweight titles at stake.

658
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: Valentina Chefchenko against Jennifer maya brazil ground specialist. We know this,

659
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: but Luke, the betting odds are still like, you know,

660
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: you got to put down, you know, ten thousand dollars

661
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: to make fifty cents back. I mean, what is the

662
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: last time I checked, William Hill, Schipchenko was a minus

663
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: one six six seven favorite.

664
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: We couldn't.

665
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: First of all, you couldn't round out the number there,

666
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 1: William Hill. Second of all, you know plus eight hundred

667
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: for MA. Luke, I think the good news is that

668
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: women's strawweight is repopulating with some people that you wouldn't

669
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: hate to see Chefchenko fight against. I'm talking about Jessica

670
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: and Androge. I'm talking about Cynthia Kelveo, and she's got

671
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: to fight Saturday as well, maybe a Lauren Murphy. But

672
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Maya ain't it. Maya to me is in the same

673
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: lineage of Chukaji and Jessica. I this is lamb to

674
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: the slaughter, Luke, try to tell me it's not. Try

675
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: to give me some hope for the Brazilian.

676
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't and I won't. I mean, here's the deal.

677
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 2: MMA is chaotic and MMA is unpredictable, and for those reasons,

678
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: you should always temper your expectations, even in scenarios like this.

679
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: But ask yourself, you know why this fight is being made.

680
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: It's being made because if you are a UFC champion,

681
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: really any champion in any way class, in any organization

682
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: or sanctioning body, in boxing or MMA, if you are

683
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: the champion, one of the things that is a responsibility

684
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 2: of yours is to defend it two three times a year. Now,

685
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: how you do that and against two that always remains

686
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: a little bit unssett. But you have a responsibility to

687
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: keep that thing in motion provided you have it. So

688
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: that is why this fight is being made. It is

689
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: being made in service to a belt, It is being

690
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: made in service to a division. It is not being

691
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: made in service to fan demand, and frankly, it's definitely

692
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: not being made in service to the idea that Maya

693
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: is any kind of real threat that we are aware

694
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: of anyway against Chevchenko. In fact, if we were to

695
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: ask who is a real threat, I don't think many

696
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: of us would be putting Maya at or even near

697
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: the top of the list. It is not clear at

698
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: all what she has better. I mean, probably pure better

699
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: ground game. But insofar as MMA is concerned, will that

700
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: really show up? I seriously have my doubts it. Will

701
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: she even be able to get it to the floor.

702
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: I definitely have my doubts about that, And so listen,

703
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: it's a fine fight for the reasons I just articulated.

704
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: Not every time is a contender going to be the

705
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: most exciting contender, or this is the one to beat

706
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: the fighter who has been holding a belt for a

707
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: long time in a weight class, it doesn't always work

708
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: that way. Sometimes it's not so pretty. It's better to

709
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: just keep it in rotation. So I'm not gonna pooh

710
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: poo it. However, I'm also not going to mince words.

711
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: It would take something close to a miracle for Jennifer

712
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: Maya to win, and maybe a miracle happens, and itmay

713
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: is unpredictable, but BC, you know as well as I do,

714
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: you have to be honest with the viewers and from

715
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: what we know, and maybe that's limited, but from what

716
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: we know, Maya should get thrashed on Saturday.

717
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah she should. And look, she did look fantastic against

718
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: John Calderwood, but you know, first round submission dominant. But

719
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, Calderwood wasn't getting you excited to potentially challenge

720
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: Chefchenko either, and two fights ago Maya lost to Caitlyn

721
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: Chukagi and so it's just sort of like, you know,

722
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: there's the halves and the have nots. For sure, at

723
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: women's strawweight, we're hoping that there's an in between area,

724
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, when you get the like kind of pink

725
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: on the steak but not fil like, is there an

726
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: in between here? Maybe maybe Androge fills that she's gonna

727
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: have the knockout punch, maybe Calvio, even Lauren Murphy. Look,

728
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: I love the trash talk. I love all that. She

729
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: probably doesn't never pray against Chefchenko either, and I'm not

730
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: here to damn that, like if you're Chefchenko. Look, she's

731
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: still positively talking about the Amanda Nunists fright, which you want.

732
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: You want her to go out and say, I don't

733
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: know how, but that trilogy will happen, even though you

734
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: know Mikey Brown, Amanda Nunis coach at Att came out

735
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: and said, I don't think that's gonna happen. I don't

736
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: see why it would happen. I like that Valentina is

737
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: at least leaving that out there. But Valentina is doing

738
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: what she has to do, building her hall of fame, resume,

739
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: building her you know, building her her stake to an

740
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: argument of being the women's go and she's incredible. So

741
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: if she wants to stay busy and just keep taking

742
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: on whoever they give to her, she's gonna systematically destroy them.

743
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: And I love interviewing her, not for the reasons you think,

744
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: but from the standpoint of like she is so dialed

745
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: in and all business on this business, nothing scares or

746
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 1: nothing shakes her. Her response to anything when you try

747
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: to ask her either a negative question or some reason

748
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: why her opponent might have success is I've been doing

749
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: this for twenty seven years. I mean, look, this is

750
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: her frickin' life. And you know it's cool that both

751
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: Chef Tank goes around the same card all that, but

752
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: this is gonna be another demolition and Luke, I mean

753
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: you hate these type of debates, But is Chef Chenki

754
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: right now no worse than the fourth greatest female fighter

755
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: of all time?

756
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: Jesus thinking about that. So Mcgoomi FUJII, Amanda Nunez Cyborg,

757
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: and then I.

758
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: Mean she didn't have the I mean, she didn't have

759
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: the fanfare of Rowsey, but she's a better fighter than Rowsey.

760
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: She'd have the dollar Rowsey above. Well, yeah, I don't

761
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: know if I put Rowsey above any of the names

762
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: I just mentioned, right, So Amanda Cyborg, Magoomi Fuji and

763
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: then this Valentina. Maybe you could maybe do that. I

764
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: have to think more about it, but I don't think

765
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: that's crazy.

766
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, look, straight up, she lost the first fight

767
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: to Amanda at one ninety six yes, but she was

768
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: coming on in that third round and a division over

769
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: her head. A lot of us believe she actually beat Amanda,

770
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: the prime version of Amanda. And then she's got all

771
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: these Holly Holm wins. She's got all these you know,

772
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: a fair number of big name wins. You want, you know,

773
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: the title fight. So it's interest. Yeah, she's she's really

774
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: building something special here. I'm interested to see at thirty

775
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: two if she wants to keep going and if this

776
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: division doesn't ever get too good, Luke, you know she could,

777
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: she could have a streak that I think pushes Rowsey back.

778
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: Rowsey will never lose the the the feelings that Rowsey

779
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: gave us this this first female star, first legitimate no

780
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, no, no disrespect to Carono and Cyberg with

781
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: the first crossover in your home female Star and then

782
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: the Mike Tyson level of dominance. But aside from that, Luke,

783
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: every day she's getting closer to old Hoyst Gracie reality

784
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: in terms of her legacy. Luke, because it was too

785
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: early and didn't and didn't linger when she got hard.

786
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: You know, it is what it is, all right, Luke.

787
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: Elsewhere on this card, give me your uh, your most

788
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: anticipated two fifty five. Oh god, the reality show.

789
00:37:59,280 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: The reality show.

790
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: His life is a freaking Have you seen his Twitter?

791
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: You see his tweets.

792
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: You see his tweets about cutting weight. I mean he

793
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: sounded like and I know, listen, I don't know what

794
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: happened with h with the reporting that m Drunkie had

795
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: about the alleged domestic violence problems he was having. I

796
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: trust him and me drunk he's reporting, but you know

797
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: it certainly is I'm sure a complicated story on some level.

798
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: And you know, credit to him. He actually answered questions

799
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: from the guy who wrote the story at Media Day,

800
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: which I thought was.

801
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: Kind of can we pause for a second, Luke, Everyone

802
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: needs to go back and watch that extended Mike Perry

803
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: media day interview that you know, the traditional UFC media Day.

804
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: It was some of the most bizarre and you could

805
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: not take your eyes off the screen because shout out

806
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: to that reporter your mentioned he had big ones. Okay,

807
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: because I've been there in the trenches in an interview

808
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: with Mike Perry and I got sent to Helen had

809
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: my life threat, and this guy Luke was coming at

810
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: him with like, okay, let's talk about the nine one

811
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: one call. Let's talk about your mom's reaction. Let's talk

812
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: about the allegations and Luke, you saw a new Mike Perry,

813
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: meaning he was calm, but it was like sociopath Mike

814
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Perry was almost scary. Were you not moved watching that.

815
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: A little bit? In fact, I got, well, you know what,

816
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: I got the opposite vibe. I got the vibe that

817
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: this dude and I don't know Mike. So this is

818
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: very much speculation from Afar BCEE. But I get the

819
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: feeling that he might be like legitimately not in totality.

820
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: I think he sells a lot of demons, but some

821
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: part of him, some part of him, is actually quite

822
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: happy right now.

823
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: Tim she completes him. Look, she had him at Hello.

824
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: Well you know, listen, no one person actually does that

825
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: for you. You shouldn't rely on another person for emotional

826
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: well being in an unhealthy way, which I think he

827
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: might be doing to some degree. Again, this is speculation

828
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: from Afar, so don't read too much into it.

829
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: All.

830
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: The only vibe I think I would stand on is

831
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: that he finally has again. I think he's got a

832
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: lot of demons and a lot of problems, but it

833
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: does feel like some of that has been washed away

834
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: a little bit. And if you've been there are certain

835
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 2: kinds of fighters. BC. There are fighters out there who

836
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: they are cold and calculating, and they can get it

837
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: done for a year after year no matter what. I mean.

838
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: They have up years, they'll have down years, but there's

839
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: not a whole lot of difference between them. A guy

840
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: like Robbie Lawler would be a great example of that, right,

841
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean just kind of yeah, he had some lazy

842
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: moments in his career, but in general he was a

843
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: fighter through and through for about two decades. And then

844
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: you have fighters who compete based on this absolutely agro

845
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: fear and anger, and it's driven from all kinds of

846
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: fucked up backgrounds sometimes or there's a number of causes

847
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: for it. And the problem with that is it can

848
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: take you pretty far. But when you begin to get

849
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: older and solve some of those problems in your life,

850
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: the engine of the fuel that you were using to

851
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: propel yourself it begins to go away. And again, I

852
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 2: don't know if this is true. It's only the vibe

853
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: that I'm getting. This is deeply unscientific, and I want

854
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: to be clear about that. It's just a feeling that

855
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: I get. But when you have a kid on the

856
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: way and you're in this relationship and you can talk calmly. Again,

857
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: I know he put hands on a guy just you know,

858
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: not too long ago. Again, he's a bit of a

859
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: Doctor Jekyll and mister Hyde, but I think he was

860
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: all one of the other before. So what I'm trying

861
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: to point out to you, BC, is, first of all,

862
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: i'll see if he even makes weight, because the way

863
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: he was talking on social media was like, I don't

864
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: have it, I can't do it. This is I'm on

865
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: death's door, blah blah blah. Very do you have those tweets?

866
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: Do we have those tweets to bring in anybody in

867
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: the back?

868
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: I don't know. If they can find him, throw them

869
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: up on the screen. Don't wait for it, just put

870
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: him up. I don't know, BC, Hunt, Let me just finish.

871
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: I'll put you back to you. Which is that? I

872
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: think that is very curious because Tim means the guy

873
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: he's fighting tomorrow, whether he's in a good mood or

874
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: a bad mood. He ain't necessarily a world beater, but

875
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: he's far from a chump, and he's the kind of

876
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: guy who doesn't get too high up or too low down.

877
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: He just stays in that middle ground, and that could

878
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: be a very, very tough fight for him, especially if

879
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: Mike is going through some of these other issues.

880
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tim means business, indeed, I love your doctor. Joyce

881
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Brothers breakdown of Mike Perry's potential co dependency issues there.

882
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: But it seems like no all jokes aside Coach Littori,

883
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: by the way, who is gotta be a leading candidate

884
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 1: for a Coach of the Year at this point along

885
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: with Rashad Evans that time, she's she's grounded him. But

886
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: these these tweets are disturbing, Luke, and they look Mike

887
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: could step on the scale any minute as we do

888
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: this show. I'm not actually aware of what's going on,

889
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: if he did make weight or not. But as recently

890
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: as four hours ago, he was saying so easy for

891
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: people to sit there and say shit. But I swear

892
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: I feel like anyone saying I'm weak for this doesn't

893
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: cut weight. It's death to me. I'm dying already and

894
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: I have six more pounds to go. It's hitting me

895
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: so much harder than the first fourteen Luke, there was

896
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: about four or five tweets, and it started off with

897
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: one saying I'm sorry, man, I don't think I can

898
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: make it, and another one questioning a move up to

899
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: one eighty five. Luke, I don't think he can compete

900
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: at one eighty five. Like, he's got to figure this

901
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: out for his career. It sucks that we're not getting

902
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: the Robbie Lawler fight here, which we thought we were

903
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of interesting what's that gonna

904
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: look like? But I think you're right. If he can

905
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: make this way to feel okay, he should win this fight.

906
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: If he can't and he's trying to put on a face,

907
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: he's trying to hold everything together, Uh, he could fall

908
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: apart here. This is and again, this is the Mike

909
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: Perry experience. Luke. Uh, they should put him in at

910
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: least the Comaine every time he fights. I'm not kidding.

911
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: There is such a post jail Mike Tyson factor for

912
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: him that you don't know what he's gonna do. But

913
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: yet at the same time, he's a pretty good competent fighter.

914
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean the Mickey gollfight reminded us of what he

915
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: can do when he's focused and everything's going well. I

916
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: know he still hasn't really found a like legitimate full

917
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: time coach. I always has like a friend in the

918
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: corner along with Latoria. This time, I hope the friend

919
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: carries the spit bucket and not the pregnant girlfriend. But

920
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, people live their lives differently. But Luke, although

921
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: we will be watching for just as equal cringe reasons

922
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: and and voyeur reasons as we will for traditional ones,

923
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: I need to see every ounce of footage that I can.

924
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm like Pei, I don't think they can put him

925
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: on TV enough. Luke, I'm sorry, I'm being straight up

926
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: and honest with you. It is what it is. The guy.

927
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: I have to see what's gonna happen next.

928
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't want to exploit somebody overly if we

929
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: could at all avoid it. But if Mike Perry can,

930
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: if he wins, and he deserves to keep going on

931
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: some kind of you know, path of I don't know

932
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: if greatness is the right word, but success, then yeah,

933
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: let's keep putting him in fights of consequence. But I

934
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: really wonder about his mental state. Again. I think he's

935
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: got a lot of issues to iron out, and maybe

936
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 2: he is ironing out some of them, and that tension

937
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: is playing with him and that dude. Here's the thing, man,

938
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: you know this as tough as Mike Perry is, and

939
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: he is tough. We know that from his fight with

940
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: Vicente Luke. If you're not in the right mental space, man,

941
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: you are gonna get hurt in this game. And we'll

942
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: have to see how he looks. Hello, do we lose

943
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: him again? BC? Making it look terrible? Uh yeah, so

944
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: be Yeah, we have to wait for him to get

945
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: back on on the old zoom for folks who mean,

946
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: I know, we have these units called live view units

947
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: that we're using to broadcast the signal smoothly to you.

948
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: But BC and I I have zoom up here to

949
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: the left of me. We have to use that to

950
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: hear each other. We can't use the live you to

951
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: hear each other. So live you makes the experience when

952
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: it works smooth for the consumer, but it doesn't do

953
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: us any good on the back end. So we're on.

954
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 2: We're lying on the magic of zoom and uh, BC

955
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: got that old uh you got that Starbucks WiFi. It's

956
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: it's a little bit inconsistent. It's a little bit not money.

957
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: Back.

958
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm back, baby, Please put me on the screen show

959
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: the people. I'm still here.

960
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: Yes see, you talked a lot of shit about my

961
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 2: own internet problems with my live chat yesterday, Karma, Buddy,

962
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: car Mine was just fine.

963
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: Anyone who knows La knows that the Wildcard gym is

964
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 1: not in is not in the nicest district of Hollywood, Luke.

965
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: And I was told that this Hampton in h used

966
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: to be like a rent by the by the hour,

967
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: by the bed motel. So they have turned things around, Luke,

968
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: but uh, not enough yet. But hey, Mike Perry, gonna

969
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Mike Perry, Luke real quick. Mike Perry's upper as you

970
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: would say, his upper bound limits his up. Well, there's

971
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: a lot of Luke phrases I don't understand, but I'm

972
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: trying to use them in my life to sound smart.

973
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: It never took calculus, look, I you know, I come off.

974
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: Look bottom line, I'm from a.

975
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: Wait, you've never taken calculus, You've never mad? Yeah?

976
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean did I really take it?

977
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: Though?

978
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: Did I really love? You know? I'm from a factory town. Okay, Luke,

979
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: you know I didn't you know? They they they listen.

980
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: Hi May Escalante taught calculus in the Inner City of

981
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, So you know, if those bureaus can learn,

982
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: can you.

983
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: The upper bound limits of Mike Perry as a fighter

984
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: to me is not a title contender ever, but in attraction.

985
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: And how about in the BMF discussion, I know we

986
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: don't really talk about that belt is real. Are there

987
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: specific BMF like fights that you want to see Perry

988
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: and that would move you?

989
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: I mean, again, beating Mickey gall is fine, that's fine,

990
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: but that won't put you in a BMF conversation or

991
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: at least like, ooh, what are some fun fights? I mean,

992
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: could he be in throw down scraps with a lot

993
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: of guys. Yeah? Sure. But while you don't have to

994
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: be a world beater, you do have to have a

995
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: certain degree of success and ability to be in that

996
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: BMF kind of you know, and I know you're not

997
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: asking about that specifically, but you know, that kind of

998
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: an orbit, that kind of a reputation. You got to

999
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: beat the tim meanses of the world to be there.

1000
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: So I won't say that there's not fights that could

1001
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: potentially excite me, but I'd be getting ahead of myself

1002
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: until he figures out exactly who he is and how

1003
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: good he is.

1004
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta beat the scale, the demons and tim

1005
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: means hopefully he can do all three. Luke also on

1006
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: this card quickly and the women's straweight division Caitlin Chukajian.

1007
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: Didn't she lose like two hours ago to Androge, She's

1008
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: back against Calvio. Do you think a win here from

1009
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: Calvio puts her next in line?

1010
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought she was gonna get it after she

1011
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: won her last fight, but I guess not so here

1012
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: we are? Did she win her last one or stuff?

1013
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: Thought she won her last one?

1014
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: Right? She did? But is this setting up? Is this

1015
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: setting up in andrage Lauren Murphy number one contenders fight?

1016
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: Is that where we're going with this?

1017
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: Yes? I think so, because you've got this fight this weekend,

1018
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: and you know Laura Murphy's won like what four or

1019
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: five or four in a row or something kind of crazy. Yeah,

1020
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: that's right, Jessica, I had a win over so it's

1021
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 2: gonna be lost to Cynthia. Did we lose the screen?

1022
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: What's happening here, folks? All right? I don't know what's

1023
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: happening on zoom, but there we go. Okay, all right,

1024
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: this show is.

1025
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: Being held together by Bubblegum Luke, it's great. It's great.

1026
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: It's like it's like, hey, guys, I have a stick

1027
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 2: of gum, paper clip and some fuzz in my pocket.

1028
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: You want to mac guy for a show for us

1029
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: to nice.

1030
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: Jay sent me this high tech equipment and like a

1031
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: hard briefcase, Luke, the charging like the cords to plug

1032
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: in the camera, the for like this long, they're like

1033
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: three like they're I mean, it's it's it's awesome.

1034
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: I remember that SNL sketch where Jimmy Fallon would play

1035
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 2: the it guy who would get frustrated with anyone asking

1036
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: him to do anything. Yeah, yeah, that's Jay. Jay will

1037
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: pack the most fucked up shit in a bag and

1038
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: then if you can't set it up, it's because you're

1039
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: the dumbass, not because he is making your job as

1040
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: difficult as possible and trying to leverage and lord his knowledge.

1041
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: Oh actually it was the T ninety nine. You just

1042
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: need the you just need the HDMI. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1043
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: all right.

1044
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yes, I think if she she had the draw

1045
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: against Marien Rodriguez, she had the win against Polionno, Buttellio,

1046
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: Courtney Casey and just Guy. If she beats Chu Kegan,

1047
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: I think Cynthia's probably gott to be next Luke.

1048
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: Trivia question which well known UFC light heavyweight is five

1049
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 1: to one and one since twenty fifteen?

1050
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: Is it showgun Hula?

1051
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: Yeah? How the hell did that happen? Luke? I thought

1052
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: he was washed, Like the day after the John Jones fight.

1053
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: Dude, he is like, what's the what I mean? I

1054
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: don't know exactly what it would be, but he's that

1055
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: thing in fridge. Takes a long time for him to

1056
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 2: go bad. You pull it out and you smell your like,

1057
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 2: I could still have this, fru is still put this

1058
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: on my egg.

1059
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: Cru cake, Luke, fruit Kate can live on your thing

1060
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: for a whole holidays year and a half.

1061
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that what he is? He just has. I mean,

1062
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: the half life of this guy is unbelievable because you

1063
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: just feel like he's walking on stilts, you know, at

1064
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: all times, and then he just seems to find a

1065
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 2: way to make it to the other side of the

1066
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: obstacle over and over again. But here's the thing, It's

1067
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: like he definitely looks old. His physique has changed. He's

1068
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: taking a million miles and he gets hurt a lot

1069
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: worse than he ever used to. Get he.

1070
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: Gets his ass kicked, Luke, he's he is.

1071
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: He's like that old pair of shoes you just can't

1072
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: throw out, man. And uh, you know he had to

1073
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: draw with Paul Craig. This is actually a rematch. Paul

1074
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: Correg's something of a guard player. So I would like

1075
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: to say that Paul Craig can beat him. I think

1076
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: he probably will, but I'm not confident about it at all.

1077
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: Look, I'm scared if Showgun wins, then if he's if

1078
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: he goes six to one and one in eight fights,

1079
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: do you know what your reward is for that in

1080
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: the UFC.

1081
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: Hell, okay, somebody I know the reward, Dude. If Shogun wins,

1082
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: the reward is that somebody else is absolutely going to

1083
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: concuss him, like there's no doubt about it.

1084
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: All right. We also have the return of Joaquin Buckley

1085
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: on this fight. The middleweight is gonna take on Jordan right,

1086
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on his shoulders to to sort

1087
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: of take advantage of the stardom he got from that

1088
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: spinny ship Ko of the Year against that guy whose

1089
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: name I can't pronounce. And that's interesting, But Luke, no

1090
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: one's talking about this prelim main event on ESPN two

1091
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: Brandon Marino and Brandon Rerouville at Flyway. This is gonna

1092
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: this is gonna bang brother.

1093
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. Royville an unbelievable scrambler. Not necessarily this is gonna

1094
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 2: sound to meaning, but I don't mean it to be.

1095
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: Let me explain. I don't know that he employs the

1096
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: highest fight IQ in terms of, you know, being reserved

1097
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: when you need to and hitting go when you need to. Instead,

1098
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: he's got this all action, all in your face style.

1099
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is it actually

1100
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: works for him really well. In fact, it's terrifying for

1101
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: opponents because he just keeps calming and he's all over

1102
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: the place, and the takedowns are relentless, and the scrambles

1103
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 2: he's usually initiating them, so he's able to get ahead

1104
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: in them, and he just finds a way. So it's

1105
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: not like he's defensively closed off or he's hard to hit.

1106
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: He's not that necessarily hard to hit, but he's hard

1107
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: to stop. He's hard to control, and for those reasons,

1108
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: he's a tough out for anyone. The question is, we

1109
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: know Brandon Moreno has been getting a lot better fight

1110
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: over fight really maturing. Is he now ready to shut

1111
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: down a guy like Rouville who you would imagine the

1112
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: very best flyweights would shut down a guy like Rouval

1113
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: in his current state. And now Royval will get better

1114
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: as well, but the current state he's in, the very

1115
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: best fly weights will have an answer for it. Is

1116
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: Brandon Moreno that guy we think he probably is, but

1117
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: he's going to have to prove it on Saturday. Should

1118
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: be a very very tough and entertaining scrap.

1119
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: Also, Antonina Chevchenko, the older sister of Valentina, needs to

1120
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: win here. It would feel like going in there against

1121
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: arion Y.

1122
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: Uh. Luke, can queen go to be honest?

1123
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: I love the sisters, we know this. Uh Answerningo is

1124
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: not that good.

1125
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: Luke.

1126
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: She's got a remedial ground game. I know she's got

1127
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: boy tie up the kazoo. Uh. I don't like watching

1128
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: her take beatings. I mean, yeah, you got any thoughts.

1129
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 2: On the future. You know, when she was on Contender Series,

1130
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: you could tell against I think it was the forget

1131
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: what fight it was in the Contender Series. I don't

1132
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 2: remember she had a real uh she had a clinch,

1133
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: but you could tell it was a good clinch. For

1134
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: our muay Thai, but she hadn't quite adapted it. And

1135
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, well, you know she's growing. I mean,

1136
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: this will take some time to get right, and I

1137
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: just haven't seen that growth. Now. I know she has

1138
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: two wins in a row, including that. Uh was it? Sorry?

1139
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: I don't what am I saying? She has the losses.

1140
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to get put on dead wrong again.

1141
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: She's one and two in her last three. Did she

1142
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: make the Pro Football Fame We'll talk about that, but

1143
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: the point being is on the Contender series, it was

1144
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: against Jamie Niavara, and I was like, huh okay, well,

1145
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 2: you know she had a decent clinch there for controlling,

1146
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: but it wasn't all that great. And then she had

1147
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: the loss to Motiferry, which was split. But then she

1148
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: had the loss to Schukegang where she just got overwhelmed

1149
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: and had nothing for her. In fact, I was shocked,

1150
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: she surprised. I was surprised that you survived that fight,

1151
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: and so you're just like, I don't know if this

1152
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: is headed in the right direction for her.

1153
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll see, we'll see. Luke the Violet, the

1154
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: theater of Violence will tell us all the truths. Thursday night,

1155
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: Bellacher two fifty three invaded the Mohegan Mansion there and Luke,

1156
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: you had the previews, the breakdowns on CBS Sports HQ.

1157
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: In that main event, we have a finalist for the

1158
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: World Featherweight Grand Prix and an interesting title contender as

1159
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: Aj McKee improved to seventeen and zero with a first

1160
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: round submission demolition against Darien Caldwell. Luke, it was as

1161
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: if we you didn't see enough to learn enough. Yet

1162
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: all it does is keep telling us what we already knew.

1163
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: That McKee is really special.

1164
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: He is something kind of interesting. I mean, I think

1165
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: i'd have to look at his record. I know he

1166
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: has the compost whin via triangle off of his back,

1167
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: so he's got multiple submissions off of his back. You

1168
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 2: may have more. I'm not, and I can't recall off

1169
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: the top of my head. But the point I would

1170
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: have wanted to make is, you know a lot of

1171
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: times this might be a sub of the year thing. Now.

1172
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: I had dubbed it the mckea teen on Twitter last night.

1173
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: He may adopt that name, he may not. It's something

1174
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: similar to what Eddie Bravo has. I did not know

1175
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: this at the time, but I've been informed of it

1176
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 2: since then. It's something called the one hundred percent choke,

1177
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: but even then it's a little bit different. And the

1178
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: reason why is because two things are different. One he

1179
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: had the body triangle on and the Again, the demonstrations

1180
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: that I've seen of the one hundred percent choke have

1181
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 2: it where it's you have the sort of the gable grip,

1182
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 2: whereas he went all the way to the bicep, which

1183
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: is a much tighter grip. And with that body triangle

1184
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: you get a lot tighter as well. So it's just

1185
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: a little bit tighter, a little bit cleaner, a little

1186
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: bit more or a finisher. I've seen some folks being like,

1187
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: you know, only white belts get tapped to that kind

1188
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: of a choke. I'm a little less inclined to agree

1189
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: with it, but what I will say is for Mcki

1190
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: to have the presence of mind to try it calmly,

1191
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: you know, is really quite impressive. He did get taken

1192
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: down with relative ease, but I don't think that's gonna

1193
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: matter so much with Sanchez or pit Bull. Maybe a

1194
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 2: little bit with Sanchez, but not so much with Pitbull.

1195
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: So I'm not too worried about that. But the thing

1196
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: that stands out to me is the guy has offense everywhere. BC.

1197
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: Everywhere he goes, he's looking to hurt you. Everywhere he goes,

1198
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: he's looking to either ground and pound or in the

1199
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: clinch somewhere, or you know, every little detail. He's not

1200
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: just trying to get back to his feet or neutralize it.

1201
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: He's attacking, attacking, attacking, and that means you're gonna find

1202
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: attacks that work in situations where a lot of other

1203
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: people don't. Even if it's a choke that you should

1204
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: not or a crank anyway that you should not tap to.

1205
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: If you just have the wherewithal to keep trying stuff,

1206
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: you're gonna find it. Eventually. It's gonna work more often,

1207
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: not more often than not, but more often than the

1208
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: person who is obviously very fearful of attempting things like that.

1209
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: So he, to me, is a force to be reckoned.

1210
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: With seventeen wins in a row twenty five years old,

1211
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 2: Darien Caldwell has some questions to ask himself. I mean,

1212
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: he the guy has been submitted a few times now

1213
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: from Guard By the way, Corey Horragucci got him time

1214
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: and glow I think got him with guillotine as well,

1215
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. So he kind of keeps his

1216
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: head down and low, so you know he's a little

1217
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: bit prone to these kinds of attacks. But I just

1218
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: mean aj McKee, you know, against Patricio BC. I'm still

1219
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: gonna favorite Patricio, but you want to talk about live dog. Oh,

1220
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: he is not afraid of these guys, and I can't

1221
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 2: wait to see who he faces.

1222
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: This is best case scenario for the Grand Prix for Bellator.

1223
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: You know, homegrowning this guy, and this is what Aaron

1224
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: Pico was supposed to be and again still could be.

1225
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: But this is his maturation is Look, this looked a

1226
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: lot like Al Joe against Corey Sandaeigan and I had

1227
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: san Haagan coming in that fight, and I thought Caldwell

1228
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: was going to be able to control this fight on

1229
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: the ground. I was devastatingly wrong in such quick fashion

1230
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: in both fights, because one man just took advantage of

1231
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: the situation and found a found a path to victory quickly. Luke,

1232
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: I love that you dubbed that the mckeotine very homeless

1233
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: beard Cody mackenzie style. Uh, others like that as well.

1234
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: Here can we throw to the sound video tape of

1235
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: Luke tolations on on just an incredible performance.

1236
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: A lot of people asking on Twitter, what do you

1237
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: call this submission? I don't know, what would you call

1238
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: my last submission. We'll just start calling the marks.

1239
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: Because the Mercenary American people with him.

1240
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: Great Luke Thomas called it the mckeotine mckeotene. I like that.

1241
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: He shout out to whoever came up with that, you know,

1242
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: I I never have seen amission like that. They uh,

1243
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: they called the new name is the mckeotine. That's the

1244
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: first time for me. I mean, I see, Luke.

1245
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if the public heard that. Hopefully our

1246
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: staff pulled it off. But if you can pop Scottie

1247
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: coochs like that and get McKee on your side, Luke,

1248
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: you are you're you're a visionary. You see things other

1249
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: people don't.

1250
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: Well, we will see. I don't know if he'll adopt

1251
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: it or not. Obviously, you know, you know whose call

1252
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: it is. It's his call. He'll get to decide what

1253
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: it is and it is not called. But I really

1254
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: just take my hat off to him. Presence of mind,

1255
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: always attacking allways, offense, calm in the face, of pressure,

1256
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: not a fully developed product that wrestling defense could use

1257
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: some work. But you know, can he win the VC

1258
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: At the beginning of the tournament, I was not sure

1259
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: he could win it. Now heading into the finals, I'm

1260
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: still not sure. I mean, I'm not sure about anybody.

1261
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: But do I believe he can win it? Yes, I

1262
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: absolutely think he can win this tournament, whether it's against

1263
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Sanchez or Patricio Pitpull.

1264
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: Luke, don't sell yourself. Sure, you're a taste maker. I mean,

1265
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: coming into this show, Luke, I may put the seasoning

1266
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: on the stake and we have that debate a lot.

1267
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: But you know, my YouTube subscribe count was zero, yours

1268
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: was like one hundred million. So Luke, shout out to

1269
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: all your fans that have come to make this show

1270
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: what it is, leaving me and just my couple of

1271
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: homeless kittens to celebrate, you know. But I'll take it, Luke,

1272
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: I'll take it. And McKee against either guy will be great.

1273
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: Him against Pippoll will be even better. Damn belt or

1274
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: you did it. It's working out. In that Cole main event, Luke,

1275
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: Jason Jackson took another step forward. The rising welterweight who

1276
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: you know His only losses again were injury in a

1277
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: maybe a bunk decision. He relied on his wrestling to

1278
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: take Benson Henderson at thirty seven to the bottom of

1279
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: the map for three straight rounds. Luke, this wasn't the

1280
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: kind of spectacular stuff when Jackson fought ed Ruth. He

1281
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: was getting drop, he was knocking him down, he was

1282
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: getting that. For that moment, this looked more like a professional,

1283
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 1: well rounded mixed martial artist. How good is Jackson after

1284
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: this win?

1285
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: I still am a little bit unclear as to the

1286
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 2: totality of his upside, although I thought he was very good.

1287
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 2: I mean, with the exception of a couple of moments

1288
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: in the third round and you know, minding his p's

1289
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: and q's, he more or less did what he wanted.

1290
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't that kind of a dominating but

1291
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't far from it either. To me, the big

1292
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: takeaway was Jason Jackson is that's gonna be the best

1293
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: one of his career, at least in terms of name value. Right,

1294
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: We can say that pretty clearly, and I think has

1295
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: shown enough overall ability to warrant these kinds of spots

1296
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: on Bellator cards against opponents that people know, I mean,

1297
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: and he might beat them and go even further. To me,

1298
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 2: the thing I took away from it, I know it's

1299
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: not necessarily what you're asking is, yes, I came away

1300
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: impressed with Jackson, but I came away more just baffled

1301
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: by what Henderson is doing at one seventy. I mean,

1302
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: I know he had some success at one seventy back

1303
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 2: in his UFC days, but you know, we're a far

1304
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: cry from that and everything he was trying here. It

1305
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: wasn't like he wasn't gain BC like he was trying.

1306
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: You know, you could see him.

1307
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was responsible and competent to not get stopped,

1308
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: but it was just.

1309
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: You could just tell he was up against a force

1310
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 2: that he was overmatched by.

1311
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get you know, let's not hype Jackson

1312
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: to the moon, but he is improving. This was a

1313
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: solid not entertaining, not anything about that, just a solid

1314
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: rely on your strengths and win. Where are we going

1315
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: with him? Yeah? Yeah, y'ama, you're a slob. I'm still

1316
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: a slob. Is that a fight we got to make here?

1317
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: At we MVP? MVP?

1318
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's good matchmaking. That is good matchmaking right there? Uh,

1319
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: who's the welterweight champion in beltour at the moment? Oh Lima, Lima?

1320
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: All right? Interesting, Yeah he's not he's not ready for Lima.

1321
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not at all, Luke, Can you tell me

1322
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: you were hyping up my fellow here, Joey Davis the

1323
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: welter way to win in there against Bobby Lee, the

1324
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: accomplished collegiate wrestler. Joey Davis. How impressed were you with

1325
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: both the wrestling and the ground and pound in this

1326
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: wide three round decision?

1327
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't think this was his strongest

1328
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: or most it was this his flashiest performance. I don't

1329
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: think it was that. But I mean, let's keep keep

1330
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: a couple things in mind here. One, he nearly stopped

1331
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: his opponent in the first round with strikes from ground point.

1332
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: He got pretty close. He sort of knocked him down

1333
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: from his knees as he was ground upouting him and

1334
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: his opponent was tough and hung on, but it got

1335
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: a little dicey there for him in the first So

1336
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: it's the first thing I'd say. Second, it was dominating

1337
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 2: all the way through. I mean, one time about Davis

1338
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 2: doing everything he wanted to do, he basically did and

1339
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 2: then three. I'd say it's really valuable for a guy

1340
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: in his eighth fight to get fifteen minutes of ring

1341
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: time against a guy who had no real shot at

1342
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: beating him, but could make him work for the win

1343
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: a little bit. So I think it would be a

1344
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: valuable experience. I mean, did he go out there and

1345
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: blow the doors off of the public's imagination. No, not

1346
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: this time. However, you watch that guy, and you watch

1347
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: how athletic he is and smart he is, and he's patient,

1348
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: but not too patient to where he doesn't throw. He's

1349
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: just patient enough to like know when to go and

1350
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: when not to. He's like those guys in the obstacle

1351
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: course who end up having the fastest time, but they're

1352
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: not sprinting through it or anything. That's him, right, So

1353
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: I think I'm still just as high on him as

1354
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: I was before. But you know, like anybody who's eight

1355
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: no not named John Jones, he just needs some more

1356
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 2: time to get his game well rounded. But I still

1357
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: am very, very high on how far he can go.

1358
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: Look, it was a busy night for coach Antonio McKee,

1359
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: the father of AJ, who cornered a bunch of these

1360
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: guys who had victories on this night. One guy he

1361
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: cornered who didn't is baby Slice, Luke is, uh he lost?

1362
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: He's three and three now, is this experiment over?

1363
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? So, I mean he's three and three now, you know,

1364
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: I mean, no one's doing interviews anymore because I guess

1365
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: they don't care. What do you do?

1366
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: Do you put him in there with with with CM

1367
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: punk types? Now, I mean, what are you doing? You

1368
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: caught him?

1369
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: What do you do?

1370
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, Nick Newell? Give him Nick Newell, I

1371
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't even I don't know.

1372
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't I literally don't even know

1373
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: if they're in the same weight class. I don't even

1374
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: know what way he fights that anymore. I've forgotten.

1375
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. All right, Luke,

1376
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: let's close up with the topics this week. You know

1377
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: we're in between this weird period where Terrence Crawford maybe

1378
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: you're bound for Punk King of Boxing just demolished kel

1379
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: Brooke and next week, sorry, two weeks from now, Luke,

1380
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: it will be that pay per view on Fox Erol

1381
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: Spence Danny Garcia. We know we all want Crawford and Spence.

1382
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: That's the fight we want. But Erol Spence told the

1383
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 1: Athletics MI Coppinger this week that the Crawford fight would

1384
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: have to be a sixty forty split or it's off.

1385
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: The quote was, I definitely should get the bigger share.

1386
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,959
Speaker 1: The proof is in the pudding. Who's the bigger draw.

1387
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: He's a great fighter, but I feel like sixty forty

1388
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: that's the right price. Crawford put out a number of

1389
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: tweets in response, the most important one being well, looks

1390
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: like that fight will never happen. Luke, is this just,

1391
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, two guys arguing over the size of their

1392
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: box office and nothing to see here until we actually

1393
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: have a chance to make this fight, or is this

1394
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: a potential problem for you?

1395
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: The whole thing is depressing.

1396
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: It's so boxing, bro, that's boxing. That is boxing.

1397
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: You're seeing You're like, You're like, I don't even know

1398
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: if it's wrong that Spence gets sixty. I mean, maybe

1399
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: it is, maybe it isn't. I don't know. You know,

1400
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: that's a that's a tougher argument to make. You can

1401
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: make it again. I don't think it's wrong, but to

1402
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: just declare it outright and then these guys put themselves

1403
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: out and then the other one who wants to double

1404
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: down on their you know, intransigence. So now everyone is

1405
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 2: stubborn and no one wants to move. I mean, there

1406
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: is this weird thing in boxing where they don't ever

1407
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: really negotiate to get to a place. They negotiate in

1408
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: a way to never show any kind of perceived weakness.

1409
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: It's like, if I take this demand, which will make

1410
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: the fight happen, and I'll get richer for it and

1411
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: it could be better for me in all kinds of ways,

1412
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 2: rather than doing that, I'm gonna say no because me

1413
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: saying yes shows some kind of perceived you know, ailment

1414
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: to the status of my career. And so the you know,

1415
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: the whole thing moves on, and then we get treated

1416
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: to Bud Crawford versus you know, Apple Sauce mcgillifucky. I mean,

1417
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: it's like, really, this is what we're doing. We're gonna

1418
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: fucking do this over and over again. So I'm not BC.

1419
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm not throwing into towel like you know, Mark Breelan

1420
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 2: did on you know, his former understudy, on the idea

1421
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: that this fight can be made a lot of this.

1422
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: Problems like Rocky Bilboa should have for Creed.

1423
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: I'll say this though, that shit is depressing, bro, it

1424
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: is super depressing.

1425
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is boxing. This is what fills

1426
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: our podcast time when you cover boxing full time. But

1427
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: let's break it down like this on who should get

1428
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: the split. Aero Spence does have two of the four

1429
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: welterweight titles unified. Crawford just has one. Spence has been

1430
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: on pay per view twice against Mikey Garcia and against

1431
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: Sean Porter. Both did solid numbers, both exceeded expectations by

1432
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,439
Speaker 1: a slight amount. Both did three hundred, four hundred thousand

1433
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: around there. Crawford's been on pay per view twice and

1434
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: he's absolutely bombed both times, including the emir Con one

1435
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: on ESPN that Bob Aaron reveal did something like one

1436
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: hundred thousand buys. And you know, Spence certainly has the

1437
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: much deeper resume at welterweight, having beaten Sean Porter, having

1438
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 1: you know, having beaten Lama Pierson, a bunch of other guys.

1439
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: So I'll helper being one of the prime Kilbrook, closer

1440
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: to prime Kilbrook.

1441
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: Excuse me.

1442
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: Crawford went on to talk to fight Hype Luke and said,

1443
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: if it's sixty forty. It's not gonna happen. I accomplished

1444
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: way more than Spence did in his little career, and

1445
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: now he's back to this. This is bud. I don't

1446
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: really care if that fight don't happen anymore. I used

1447
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: to be all up on that, but these last couple

1448
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: of years it just rubbed off on me. Here's the deal.

1449
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: If Spence does beat Garcia, I think the better fight

1450
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: right now for Crawford under the top rank deal is

1451
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: to get Manny. It'll give him the celebrity rub that

1452
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: he needs. It's still a very tough fight, it'll give

1453
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: him a chance at a second title. So really, let's

1454
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: say Crawford fights Manny and wins. Let's say Spence beats Garcia.

1455
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: That means Crawford would have two belts, Spence would have two.

1456
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: That's the time to make it. That's the time to take.

1457
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: You know. I don't know if if Crawford would be

1458
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: out of his top rank deal by then, but either way,

1459
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: that's the time to make the two networks come together

1460
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: for all four welterweight titles. And if it gets to

1461
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: that point, Luke, it's fifty to fifty in my money

1462
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 1: at that point, right right now, it's splitting hairs on

1463
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: who's the bigger draw, who's the whatever. But uh, you know, Luke,

1464
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: it's boxing, so this is gonna be the meat that

1465
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: we chew on until they actually fight. Sorry to depress you.

1466
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: Welcome to my world.

1467
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: Thanks well, Luke.

1468
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: Speaking of depressing stuff, let's take some els. Let's hear

1469
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: the few out.

1470
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 2: To you, ready, let's do it for us.

1471
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: It is dead wrong. Can you hear my daughter? Yes?

1472
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: I can.

1473
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: I think she's yelling for the ducks again.

1474
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 2: I keep telling them please don't have her yell during

1475
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: lunchtime at the door. And then every lunchtime she's yelling

1476
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: at the door.

1477
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: So is off duty right now?

1478
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 3: Right?

1479
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's in Columbia.

1480
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's your problem right there. All right, Hey, Luke,

1481
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 1: dead wrong number one this week.

1482
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: Here's how you know how bad this is? BC. Here's

1483
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: how bad this is. Ready. I still stand by the

1484
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 2: original point that it's hard to get into the NFL

1485
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame or the football Again, the NFL doesn't

1486
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 2: run it. It's the football Hall of Fame, and that

1487
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: if you look at some of the names who are

1488
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: not in there, in part because there's a five year

1489
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: waiting list. You might be surprised. However, Here's how I

1490
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: almost spoiled.

1491
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 1: The comedy special great specially yet you can still roast.

1492
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 2: Me for it, because I deserve to be roasted to

1493
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: the nth degree. Here's how I knew I was gonna

1494
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 2: take a whopper of an l today. The instant the

1495
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: show ended, I got emails, Facebook messages, Insta DMS. I'll

1496
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: be like, yo, bro, you fucked that up wildly. So

1497
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: so BC hand me that out.

1498
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like remember that show on Nicolodeon when

1499
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,799
Speaker 1: we were kids. You can't do that on television where they'd.

1500
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 2: Get slimmed to get rid of against slime major.

1501
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: Out of the twenty players that Luke listed as not

1502
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: being in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, fourteen of

1503
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,799
Speaker 1: those are dead wrong. It's Chris Carter in twenty thirteen,

1504
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: Michael Strahan twenty fourteen, Dual bet Is twenty fifteen, Tim

1505
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: Brown that year, Brett Farv the next year, Kevin Green,

1506
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison, Terrell Davison twenty seventeen, Jason Taylor, Kurt Warner,

1507
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens, Isaac Bruce. Look, you got thirty percent right.

1508
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 2: So okay, so you know. Here's what happened. I knew

1509
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: that it was true. You would agree with me that

1510
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 2: it's much. It's very difficult to get into the Football

1511
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame as a general statement. You would agree

1512
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: with that, right, Yeah, okay. So here's what I did.

1513
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: I looked up on Google while we were on the air,

1514
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 2: best players to not be in the Football Hall of Fame,

1515
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:23,919
Speaker 2: and I clicked on the top response on Google. Problem

1516
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: was the article was from twenty twelve.

1517
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, Luke, come on.

1518
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: And I didn't know it. I didn't know it. I

1519
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 2: didn't read it. So when it came up and I

1520
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: read all those fucking names, I was like, oh, this.

1521
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: Is a wake up call for fake news, Luke.

1522
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: No.

1523
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: People said I was dead round for not correcting you,

1524
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 1: and I didn't even think of it. I trusted you, Luke.

1525
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: I trusted you.

1526
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 3: Right.

1527
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, listen. We'll never claim to be perfect on

1528
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 2: this show, but how many podcasts shows anywhere have a

1529
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 2: built in segment where we get on our hands and

1530
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 2: knees and say thank you sir, May I please have another.

1531
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: Like death Cab, Luke, I'll follow you into the dark.

1532
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: And I did, and the darkness continues where Luke had

1533
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: mentioned that Marcus Levasser was undefeated in Division two and

1534
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: just one of three collegiate wrestlers to do that. Unfortunately, Luke,

1535
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: Marcus was D three, competed.

1536
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: In D three.

1537
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: He went one hundred and fifty five and oh at

1538
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: Augsburg University. He was a four time NCAA champion. He

1539
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: had a one hundred and forty one match win streak

1540
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: heading into college, and he joined that rare company. You

1541
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: mentioned Keil Sanderson, Joey Davis of having gone undefeated, Joey

1542
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: Davis at Notre Dame College, and of course we know

1543
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: the great Kale. Luke, you were dead wrong, but you

1544
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: know that's fine.

1545
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: Okay, that one I was wrong about. I thought it

1546
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,839
Speaker 2: was D two, but it was D three. Still pretty impressive.

1547
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say is Lavesser kind of

1548
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: bottomed out in MMA, and I don't know how well

1549
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: Cale would have done. He did a little bit of

1550
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 2: training in MMA with like Randy cotrnshit, But I still

1551
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: maintain I don't know how good Joy Davis is going

1552
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 2: to be, but he does appear to be very, very talented,

1553
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: So I'll take the l on that as well. Not

1554
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: quite as bad. But you know, hey, that's what the

1555
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 2: segment's all about. BC. You got to sit here and

1556
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 2: suck the horn, all right?

1557
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of that. Every Monday, of course, we do dms

1558
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 1: from Donks and when the animation hits, I like to

1559
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: hit you with the nay only. Look, I'm dead wrong.

1560
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: That's a freaking horse sound. Everyone knows Donkey's go he

1561
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: haw he haw. And the producers have written in here

1562
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: in shame on you, Jay for adding a donkey noise

1563
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: to every segment and never correcting Big Beige. Is it petty? Absolutely,

1564
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: But that's what happens when you give us this opportunity.

1565
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: Love the show, can I'll be honest. That's I'm sorry.

1566
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: That's not a producer. That's the guy who wrote in

1567
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: the comment to say that we're dead wrong.

1568
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 2: All right. Yeah, I never knew if you were making

1569
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: a noise or just routinely stroking out. I had always

1570
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 2: just assumed the ladder.

1571
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 1: Do you think I had a gable should think I

1572
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: had a gable grip going underneath the camera. Everyone's going

1573
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: on here, Luke, let's move on. I'll take another l

1574
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: I referenced this pat last Friday that Paul Felder was

1575
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: the damn Irish Dragon.

1576
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: Luke.

1577
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: Turns out he's he is Irish, but he's the Red Dragon,

1578
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: not to be confused.

1579
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 2: With the that's not true. Hold on, he's the Irish Dragon.

1580
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: So so my our producers are dead wrong.

1581
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: You are correct. He's the Irish No, no, no, you

1582
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: were right. He is the irin He's not the Red Dragon.

1583
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: Rory McDonald is the Red Dragon.

1584
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 2: He's the red He's the Red King.

1585
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: You're okay, So I'm dead wrong for that. Whoever put

1586
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,759
Speaker 1: it this comment and is dead wrong, and our producers

1587
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: are dead wrong for not fact checking.

1588
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: Oh god, they tried. They tried to get you BC

1589
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 2: and I got I. I no, no, I wasn't allowing it.

1590
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: Fuck that.

1591
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: They're like, here, sit on this cactus, take the L.

1592
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, willing we do it, all right? You

1593
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: know you're a man now, all right? That's great. Also, Luke,

1594
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: the biggest L I'll take this week is I've made

1595
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: multiple references in the past two weeks ri ip web scream.

1596
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: Where is this guy who used to create great content

1597
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,799
Speaker 1: for us, used to slide in be our biggest supporter

1598
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: and one time I thought he was going to try

1599
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: to join our team. We love this man, Luke. He's

1600
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:06,520
Speaker 1: the Greek voice of ways and he's an Italian hero. Apparently.

1601
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: I said people are coming for his throne and he's

1602
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: doing nothing about it. Luke. What I forgot is he

1603
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: has been filling my dms with great material. I just

1604
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: haven't been seizing it and putting it up there. So

1605
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: Webscream Christos Christophoros, the great Greek god of thunder and graphics,

1606
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: I do say, I'm sorry. Here's Webscream's latest creation. Luke

1607
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: has a little bonus fan submission for the moment. Check

1608
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: it out there, a little little shining, Luke.

1609
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: You like that. I like how we're holding hands. B See,

1610
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: it's very uh true to form.

1611
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: The great web Scream is still alive and well, sorry Dickles,

1612
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: Scott Amrizzo and all the other wannabes. The King's still

1613
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: the king. Okay, that's the way that worked out there, Luke.

1614
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: All right, that is it? What do we got next?

1615
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: What we got next?

1616
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 2: Luke? I don't know you're you're the host face all right?

1617
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: Now on Sprockets is the time when we dance, Luke.

1618
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: All right, here's what we're gonna do, a little bit

1619
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: of homework segment. We still don't have a name for it, Luke,

1620
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: but I gotta ask you a question. What is art?

1621
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: Are we are? Is our art? This week's our homework assignment.

1622
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: Luke was the twenty thirteen album from acclaimed guitarist and

1623
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: songwriter Jason Isbel. It's called Southeastern. You may remember him

1624
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 1: from his time as the third guitarist and the league

1625
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 1: guitarist with the Drive By Truckers. This was his third

1626
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: solo effort and by far the most poignant, deep mature

1627
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: effort he has put out there. Luke, I will give

1628
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: you the floor because you were the visiting team, you

1629
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: took the Pepsi challenge.

1630
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this piece are Yeah, this was an

1631
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 2: interesting one for me because, as you know, we are

1632
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 2: both fans of the Drive By Truckers. I've seen them

1633
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: in concert. It was quite an expert. I've seen them

1634
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: in concert a couple times actually, and I saw him

1635
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 2: once at the nine thirty Club and once at like

1636
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 2: a pavilion in Norfolk or Virginia. I can't remember, but

1637
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 2: I like him a lot, and so I will say this,

1638
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 2: I'm probably not going to give this album as high

1639
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 2: a number as maybe I should, but that doesn't mean

1640
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: I don't have good reverence for it. So I actually

1641
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:19,759
Speaker 2: looked up the story of this album. This is basically

1642
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: the first album, the solo album that he has, I

1643
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: should say, where he had finally gone to rehab and

1644
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 2: gotten out. But the story of the album is not

1645
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 2: about being at the bottom of a bottle. In fact,

1646
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 2: it's the opposite, because once you're there, there's nowhere else

1647
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 2: to go, And it's kind of a story that's been told.

1648
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 2: This is about you've actually kind of reclaimed a lot

1649
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 2: of your life, but it's about the human struggles, about

1650
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 2: maintaining the ordinariness of that and not falling back into

1651
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 2: the pits of despair and sort of making amends with

1652
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: the world that you hurt, and trying to recapture love

1653
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 2: or at least maintain the love that you still have

1654
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 2: with people. Now. Yeah, And so for those reasons, and

1655
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: because I already take him seriously as a musician, I'm

1656
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 2: automatically going to like it. The only thing you have

1657
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: to understand is for me, I have to be at

1658
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 2: a place in my life to be fully receptive to

1659
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 2: this kind of music. I can't like you're in a

1660
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 2: place where you can play this, you can just turn

1661
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: it on and go, Yeah, I'm not there. I'm not

1662
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,759
Speaker 2: there right now right I've been in places like, for example,

1663
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 2: where I could listen to the Avid Brothers, like old

1664
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 2: Avid Brothers, like the Girl from Argentina and all this

1665
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. I could just listen to it on

1666
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: repeat forever, and I'm not currently there emotionally. Dude. I

1667
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: know it sounds kind of weird, but it's true.

1668
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: And if you ask me right now, and you may

1669
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: do it next week for all I know. To listen

1670
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: to some like thrash metal, I get what you're saying.

1671
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: I can't go zero to sixty right into it like

1672
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: it's me getting into prog rock. This quarantine Luke. I

1673
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: never could be listening to Genesis and Emerson Lake and

1674
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: Palmer if I didn't ease into it and start going,

1675
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, crawling up the mountain, so to speak.

1676
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 2: Gets There's God and even that I'm not even listening to.

1677
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 2: I'm not even listening to metal right now. I've been

1678
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 2: listening to like tons of hip hop, of of of

1679
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 2: Vinnie Paz and Army of the Pharaohs and Reef the

1680
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: Lost Cause and self titled napathy and all that kind

1681
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 2: of stuff. That's what I've been really heavy into the

1682
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. It was a really hard switch

1683
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: for me to make. But that being said, I did

1684
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 2: make some notes on top of the research I had done,

1685
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: and I will tell you which one stood out to me.

1686
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 2: Cover me up. I really enjoyed Elephant. I liked, but

1687
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 2: I thought that the signature achievement on this album was

1688
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 2: Live Oak, especially because it starts a cappella. Yeah, it

1689
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 2: talks the lyrics I have here hold On. I want

1690
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 2: to read it real quick because I have it.

1691
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 1: It is.

1692
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: It is hold On where uh, there is one part

1693
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: here where it's just really quite incredible.

1694
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: That is some dark and lonely storytelling about addiction, Luke

1695
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: and the two lives that you live when you're an addict,

1696
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the dark one and the

1697
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: public one.

1698
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: It starts out a cappella and he goes, there's a

1699
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 2: man who walks besides me. He is who I used

1700
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,480
Speaker 2: to be. I wonder if she sees him and confuses

1701
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: him with me. I mean, this is what I'm talking

1702
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: about in You've already reclaimed some degree of sobriety and normalcy,

1703
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: but that is an ongoing, difficult and really hard to

1704
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 2: capture kind of process. So what I will say BC

1705
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 2: is artistically, I will never ever say anything bad. I

1706
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 2: don't know that I got as much an enjoyment out

1707
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: of this as maybe I should have because of the

1708
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: place I'm in. So I'm gonna give it a solid eight. Okay,

1709
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 2: but you can easily easily go much much higher, And

1710
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 2: I think if I was in a different place, I

1711
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: could probably go a lot higher. But I'm gonna give

1712
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: it a solid eight for those reasons.

1713
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: Well, look, if you were a DBT fan, you always

1714
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: sort of knew that this guy was the best songwriter

1715
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: of the three guys that did. But he wrote the least.

1716
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: He was like the George Harrison to the Lennon McCart

1717
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 1: and he wrote Outfit, which was a classic, wrote Decoration Day,

1718
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: wrote a few ones. His first couple of solo albums

1719
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: were good. They were like alternative country and roots rock,

1720
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 1: and it was good. This is great. This is a

1721
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:05,919
Speaker 1: modern classic in the genre of like Americana, not necessarily

1722
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: all country, more pure country and rocky. I mean, this

1723
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: is a classic because it's so freakin' deep. Luke and

1724
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: I go point of reference right to Elephant. I think

1725
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: that's one of the greatest songs ever written. And what's

1726
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: crazy is so much of this album is about real

1727
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: life experience. Like you're mentioning, he had hit like rock

1728
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: bottom with whiskey addiction and alcoholism and come all the

1729
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,560
Speaker 1: way back and he married Amanda Schiers, who is a

1730
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: you know, an accomplished musician and fiddle player in her

1731
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 1: own right, and you know, she helped clean him up

1732
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: and he came around and all those A lot of

1733
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: these songs echo that Elephant is not about that. It's

1734
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: actually a made up story about being by somebody's side

1735
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: as they go through cancer. Luke I cried the first

1736
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: time I heard the song. It was just so freakin'

1737
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: real and heart wrenching and raw. It's not only written beautifully,

1738
01:21:56,479 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: it's performed with so much authenticity, even though it's again

1739
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: a made up story, which is wild to me because

1740
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: this is one of those where you know, is bull

1741
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: left around and he got a triple double. This is

1742
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: a perfect, amazing song. I mean, look, there's so many

1743
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: lines that even I get goosebumps just tearing him. You know,

1744
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 1: if I would have asked her before she got sick.

1745
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: I'd never hear the end of it. I mean, you know,

1746
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: and the whole idea of being by someone's side who's

1747
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: dying is the elephant in the room and trying your

1748
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: best to avoid it. There are some incredible live editions

1749
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: of this song. There is so many great ones. I

1750
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 1: think the single though, look, the single, the most commercial

1751
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: song on this album. Did you catch Stockholm? Track two,

1752
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: which his wife Commanda Shires sings along with him. It's

1753
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: very good, really, look, I think the most underrated song,

1754
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: it's the second to last one. It's called Avett. Did

1755
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: you hit that at all? Vett?

1756
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 2: I mean I play to all of them. That one

1757
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: does not stand out to me, but.

1758
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: All right, if anyone wants to revisit that. That is

1759
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 1: a chilling and intoxicating story, basically first person about a

1760
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: teenage kid looking through the window of his neighbor and

1761
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 1: watching the teenage girl in there get abused and beaten

1762
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: by her dad, and him picking up his shotgun and

1763
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 1: deciding and coming to terms with the idea that he

1764
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 1: may have to shoot the father to save her, which

1765
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: is wild, Luke, but it's got an amazing slide bluesy

1766
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: guitar riff that the song is built on, and it

1767
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: is just some powerful shit. I will say sadly, Luke.

1768
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: I've seen his bill in concert solo since this album,

1769
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: and he is damn good. I don't think the two

1770
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: albums that follow this one are even as close to

1771
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: as good as this one, like, not even in the

1772
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: same ballpark. I like what he's trying to do now,

1773
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: but this was his mountaintop. I don't think he can

1774
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: repeat it in terms of modern albums. It's a classic.

1775
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it nine and a half. It is

1776
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: so close to perfection in the end, of course, this

1777
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: is These are genres that I live in. I'm very

1778
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: Americana roots rock. I love this type of shit. But look,

1779
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: there is a next level of motion in this piece.

1780
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't sing these songs. He aches them,

1781
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: he drips them. And that's the kind of shit at

1782
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: forty two that gets me through the through the day. Look, okay, yeah,

1783
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: that is what it is.

1784
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, you gotta stop listening to music

1785
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 2: though it's a little too much.

1786
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh dare you look? You don't know me? Okay, you

1787
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: know you'll find out on the doctor.

1788
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: By the way, we have to correct the record. So

1789
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: I just got a text from our producer, one of

1790
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 2: our producers for dead wrong. So the way that they

1791
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 2: wrote it to us to read on air was dead wrong.

1792
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 2: You had apparently said that Paul Felder was the Red Dragon,

1793
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: and of course he is the Irish Dragon.

1794
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: So I just reverse cruss. I've reversed sent myself.

1795
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 2: No, no, they wrote it. They wrote it wrong, so

1796
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 2: that you thought that like they were wrong, and they

1797
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 2: were wrong for writing it wrong, but you had You

1798
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 2: were the one who originally apparently had called it read

1799
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: and in fact it's Irish.

1800
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 1: All right? Well, I mean at this point, Luke, whatever,

1801
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: all right?

1802
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 2: People get into the of the Football Hall of Fame

1803
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 2: when I read their name.

1804
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, hey, Luke, it's time to touch them. Tips.

1805
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: Here's our tip of the week, whether we have a recommendation,

1806
01:24:53,479 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: a tip for second, just to see how it feels. Luke,

1807
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: do you want to go first? What do you got?

1808
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: What's your tips? Sure?

1809
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: I will go first. Well, the quarantine, such as they exist,

1810
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 2: and many more apparently headed our way, which is a

1811
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: fun little reality we have to live through DC. You know,

1812
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: the place that I live in has never been out

1813
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 2: of stage two. So we've just kind of been hovering

1814
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: in the same status we've been in for six months

1815
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 2: and nothing has really changed. And so I've been really

1816
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: slowly investing in my home gym stuff because I don't

1817
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 2: like going to the gym, even with a mask on.

1818
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: It's not that fun. I mean, I'll do it, but

1819
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 2: it's not that fun. And I want to invest in

1820
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 2: as much home stuff to be as self sufficient as

1821
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 2: I can, because just you know, yeah, it seems like, dude,

1822
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how you feel, BC, whatever

1823
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 2: anyone's views on a hold of stuff, it does feel

1824
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty one might be a much better year

1825
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 2: than twenty twenty with the vaccine, the better treatment and

1826
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. So you know, I am optimistic about

1827
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 2: the long term potential, but who the hell knows in

1828
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 2: the short run and how long that might last. Plus, dude,

1829
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 2: the quarantine wreaked havoc on my body. I lost all

1830
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: my gains, you know, eating fuck and all the wrong shit.

1831
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,719
Speaker 2: So I've been really in the last you know, month

1832
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: or so, trying to get back to a scenario where

1833
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: I can get back what I need to and I'm

1834
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 2: hoping second quarter twenty twenty one, will have a vaccine

1835
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: I can already have taken. I'll be in much better shape.

1836
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. But I bring all this up to say,

1837
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 2: if you're like me and you're looking for self sufficiency,

1838
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 2: and you know BC in all areas of my life,

1839
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 2: I don't like relying on anybody. Here's a host, including

1840
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 2: your co host, including co host your new name. I'll

1841
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: say this. I've been researching when is a good time

1842
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 2: to buy home gym equipment, and it's all going to

1843
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 2: be in short supply just by the nature of things.

1844
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 2: Here's what I have found out, because I didn't know

1845
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 2: this either, and I've been looking it up and I've

1846
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: seen several places that I trust. In fact, I know

1847
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 2: a guy who has his own fitness company and he

1848
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 2: confirmed this was true to me. The best time to

1849
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: buy equipment, whether it is bands, weights, bar bells, kettlebells, whatever,

1850
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 2: Matt's Black Friday, Black Friday is the best time to

1851
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 2: do it. And of course, as we all know, Black

1852
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 2: Friday ABC has just bled into Cyber Monday all the way.

1853
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: So that tip is your tip to get good deals

1854
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 1: on Black Friday? Is that actually your like it?

1855
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 2: Is it is? He Sorry I didn't I didn't explain

1856
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 2: this properly. Here's my understanding. These gym companies, these apparel companies,

1857
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 2: they don't do sales hardly ever. In fact, they only

1858
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 2: really do sales on Black Friday. So I get what

1859
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 2: you're saying. Yes, Black Friday is the time for everyone

1860
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: to get anything. My understanding, though, is best Buy is

1861
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: gonna have deals a month later, uh you know, you

1862
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 2: name it. Target's gonna have deals two weeks later. Amazon's

1863
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 2: gonna have deals all the time. But these fitness companies, Elite, Fts, Rogue, whatever.

1864
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 2: There it's a narrow window, and it's apparently Black Friday

1865
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: that is the very best time, at any point all

1866
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 2: year to get home gym equipment. So I'm gonna be

1867
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: doing that. I got some things I'm looking to buy.

1868
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: If you're the kind of person who's been waiting to see, like, hey,

1869
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: when can I get some of this stuff lower? Because dude,

1870
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: the shit's expensive, like a good Barbell's two three hundred bucks.

1871
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,719
Speaker 2: Black Friday. I am told by everyone it's the only

1872
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: time the shit goes on sale, that's when you gotta

1873
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 2: do it, all right, I'm down for that tip.

1874
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: Also, if you're looking to catch that fade or get

1875
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: a two piece, depending on where you live, you can

1876
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: catch that a Black Friday as well as the bottom

1877
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: of the food chain appears. I don't mean that in

1878
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: a poverty sets. I mean that in a crazy sense.

1879
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: Well are these people, Luke? I want nothing to do

1880
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: with public Black Friday, especially during COVID. My tip of

1881
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 1: the week is this, Luke. Look, if you're a married

1882
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: man and you'll love your wife and you love spending

1883
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: time whether sometimes it can be hard to find a series,

1884
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 1: a TV show, something that you can share that meets

1885
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: in the middle of your interests. I want to watch

1886
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 1: action movies and fighting and music documentaries. My wife wants

1887
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,560
Speaker 1: to watch Hallmark movies. Look, it is what it is.

1888
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: We've all been sort of in this divide where you

1889
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: have a couple of shows that you share, but if

1890
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: they're off, like they are during the quarantine, you can

1891
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 1: be like, are we hanging out tonight? What are we doing?

1892
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: What's really happening here?

1893
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 2: Luke?

1894
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,759
Speaker 1: I found an interesting show. It's certainly not my type

1895
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 1: of show, but I'm addicted. It was an ABC series

1896
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: from twenty fifteen to twenty eighteen called Quantico. I don't

1897
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 1: know if you've ever seen it. It's now on Netflix

1898
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Speaker 1: all THI I've Well, there we go. So the center

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Speaker 1: of it is it's an American thriller series about life

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Speaker 1: in both FBI and CIA, training and carrying out missions

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Speaker 1: and government and political conspiracies. And it is actually a

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Speaker 1: pretty damn good action show with suspense and drama, but

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Speaker 1: also does the relationship thing, the levity, the soft moments

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Speaker 1: to offset the people getting shot in the forehead. So

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Speaker 1: it is somehow the perfect meet in the middle for

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Speaker 1: my wife and i's TV interests. And even though it's

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Speaker 1: a bit over the top, but look, Luke, you know

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Speaker 1: how this is where men we like action show. We

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Speaker 1: want we want Commando, we want you know, Mark for Death.

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Speaker 1: We want action where people are getting sent to hell.

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Speaker 1: But our ladies like it where it's cleaned up to

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Speaker 1: a certain degree, you know what I mean, where it's

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Speaker 1: like that this is that, this is that, this is

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Speaker 1: in the middle. So to do that you got to

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Speaker 1: be over the top. But it's a cliffhanger series with

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Speaker 1: a constant who done it? Where you suspect every single

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Speaker 1: person in the show is the bad guy, and it's

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Speaker 1: well done, Luke. You know I like conspiracies, so this is, uh,

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Speaker 1: this fits.

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Speaker 2: In well you know, well it's made by network television,

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Speaker 2: which is usually my sign that it's probably shit, so

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Speaker 2: I will not be watching it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it won't be the kind that you would love

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Speaker 1: to watch alone, Luke. This is specifically a husband and

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Speaker 1: wife type of deal where it fits fits all. Look,

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Speaker 1: and you know what I'm talking about, because your I mean,

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Speaker 1: your wife's different. She goes she met you at a

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Speaker 1: gun club, she goes to cannibal concerts, even though she's

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Speaker 1: a fantastic lady. I will say though, Luke, that you know,

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Speaker 1: for some people it's like the damn wife just wants

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Speaker 1: to watch the house Hunters or the or the Hallmark.

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Speaker 1: We don't want that shit. We need something, Luke, and

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Speaker 1: that we need a bridge in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Okay, my watch just made us watch a murder documentary

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Speaker 2: on Netflix, but it was in our Agentina, so I

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Speaker 2: had to listen to the you know, you know, for

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Speaker 2: fucking three days in a row. That was that was great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, all my wife wants to watch is

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Speaker 1: Christmas movie starring like Candice Cameraon and Acy Slater. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: My wife watches those two, but it's kind of like

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Speaker 2: background noise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll put that time in, okay, but I'd rather

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Speaker 1: watch some action with some government shit. All right. That's that, Luke.

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Speaker 1: I did want to shout out everybody for the kind

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Speaker 1: words of the debut last night of NBC's Rig City

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Speaker 1: USA on the NBC Sports Network. It's competitive fifty to

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Speaker 1: fifty fights. It turned out well. It was a fun

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Speaker 1: production with Sean Porter, Bob Poppa, current Batier company in

1950
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Speaker 1: Freddie Roach's gym in the parking lot, Luke, which was

1951
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Speaker 1: wild because it's tight back there. There was a hotel

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Speaker 1: on one side, a apartment building on the other that

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Speaker 1: people were literally just watching out of their windows, like

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Speaker 1: holding babies in their arms. It was an interesting experience altogether.

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Speaker 1: I loved it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it looked pretty good on TV. I'll say that

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Speaker 2: look pretty good on TV, except for those gloves you

1958
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Speaker 2: were wearing. Oj. How is Kato Kalin's guest house.

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Speaker 1: Look, the COVID protocol was through the roof. You know,

1960
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Speaker 1: we had security guards on the floors. They all the

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Speaker 1: food we ate, they gave it to us. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was it was tight, Luke, but they they mandated

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Speaker 1: them things. And I don't know if you saw they

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Speaker 1: gave Sean Porter pink surgical gloves. He replaced them with

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Speaker 1: like black motorcycle gloves. And I went rogue and took

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Speaker 1: my mask off during one close up, because come on,

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Speaker 1: you know we're all tested here, Luke, come on, right,

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Speaker 1: can I deliver this stand up? Please? Do I need

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Speaker 1: the mask?

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Speaker 2: What is this? It looked pretty good. It looked pretty good.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's all You're gonna say, Thank you, thank

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Speaker 1: you to people. Thank you, Luke. Do we have anything

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Speaker 1: else to plug?

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Speaker 2: Cell? I will do my live chat today at around four,

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Speaker 2: so be on the lookout for that. I apologize with

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Speaker 2: the delay, but I will get it done and we'll

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Speaker 2: use that to send people off into the weekend. And BC,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure this is true. I gotta verify and

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Speaker 2: I'm but I'm confident in saying I think there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a post show live after US two fifty five

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Speaker 2: right here in morning combat, I'm gonna go live.

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Speaker 1: Typically people can go to CBS Sports HQ right after

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Speaker 1: the fights. But if you're saying go live on the

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Speaker 1: YouTube's this is big business.

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Speaker 2: Here, this is big business. I want to see we

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Speaker 2: can get a thing going here with CBS and help

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Speaker 2: us understand, you know, maybe not for fight nights or whatever,

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Speaker 2: but for the pay per review that happens once a

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Speaker 2: month or so. We need to be going live after that,

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Speaker 2: so at least for Saturday, I think that's in play.

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Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna continue to fill your extra palette

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Speaker 1: with not only the bonus stuff we do. Maybe bro sected,

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Speaker 1: we'll come back. Raefe and Rashad are always lingering. But

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Speaker 1: the interview is Luke. I did a nice one with

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Speaker 1: Francis and ganglu yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So he's actually a pretty good interview for a guy

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Speaker 2: where English is a second language.

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Speaker 1: Very good interview, especially when you talk life stuff and

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Speaker 1: you know the inspirational journey he's had and there's like

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Speaker 1: African foundation, like, you know, it's a good, good ash dude, Luke.

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Speaker 1: He also sends people to hell and I try to

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Speaker 1: get him fired up at the idea of forget the

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Speaker 1: damn title, you gotta bang with Rumbell brother. Okay, let's bang.

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Speaker 1: This is what we really need to see, Luke.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Next week, we got some big guests in the short week.

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Speaker 1: Look Danny garcia Ero spent a lot of big stuff

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Speaker 1: coming to this show, Luke, A lot more names than that.

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Speaker 2: Looke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. That's all yet, all right, I'm done.

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Speaker 1: I'm done hosting this week.

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Speaker 2: All right. So thanks to Showtime, thanks to Malka, thanks

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Speaker 2: to that money dunkin Donuts Internet you've been using over

2014
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Speaker 2: there in LA. You can follow us on social there.

2015
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Speaker 2: Let's see what else we got. Morning combat at gmail

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Speaker 2: dot com for fan submissions for all the things we

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Speaker 2: got wrong right. Merch, by the way, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if there's any I don't know if there's any uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, Black Friday sales on merch. I think that

2020
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Speaker 2: shit just the price days the same bro stored dot

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Speaker 2: show dot com.

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Speaker 1: I'll look into that.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: International shipping apparently not on the radar at the moment, Luke,

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Speaker 1: But we'll get into that, all right. Oh. I did

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Speaker 1: want to shout out something. We'll probably talk more about

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Speaker 1: it next week. But Luke, there's a Hector Camacho doc

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Speaker 1: coming out on Showtime and I was able to screen it.

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Speaker 2: Woo, how did you get a fucking greener?

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Speaker 1: And I didn't look I got connections, all right, I

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Speaker 1: got connections. Thanks, you can have your producer credit and

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Speaker 1: your IP. All right, I got connections. I'll I'll let

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Speaker 1: those go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, with that in mind, you want

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Speaker 2: to try to Showtime to see the Camacho documentary. Showtime

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Speaker 2: dot Com thirty day free trial Brian. Safe flights back

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Speaker 2: to the Beast Coast, the East Coast where you are

2038
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Speaker 2: adored and missed. Be safe and don't get COVID. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, all right, everybody else leave it there, Brian,

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas, thanks to Showtime, Thanks to Malka.

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Speaker 2: May all your gains be loyal