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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: RADIOA good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning everybody.

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Speaker 2: Well happy Abby, Abby Abby, Fox Sports Saturday broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Yeah, what're the fellas,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Gargano, Kevin figures my main man figure on this

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Speaker 2: uh Mother's Day weekend? So just be good to mom,

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Speaker 2: all right, Mom's rule and uh just FYI figure. I

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Speaker 2: don't have to tell you, but the baby has to

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Speaker 2: give mom. The president.

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Speaker 3: Oh, trust me, the president has already been purchased. The

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Speaker 3: President's ready. The baby has a card, the baby has

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Speaker 3: a gift. He is all set and locked in for

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Speaker 3: his first Mother's Day. Trust me.

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Speaker 2: I see you're on top of it, dude.

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Speaker 3: Well I'm not on top of it. My son, quote unquote,

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Speaker 3: he is on top of it right right. He loves mama,

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Speaker 3: does anything for mama.

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Speaker 2: So that's it. That's it, that's it. I'm proud of you, man.

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Speaker 3: You and your boys have any plans for your wife.

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Speaker 2: So now we're at a different stage of life, okay,

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Speaker 2: all right right please, So so my wife's not exactly

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Speaker 2: thrilled by this weekend. So, uh, it's My oldest is

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Speaker 2: a freshman in high school. He uh so you have

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Speaker 2: to play two sports. He plays football and he rows

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Speaker 2: and uh we he's got a big race right now.

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Speaker 2: The rowing people do do Mother's Day up. This is

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Speaker 2: our first, my first, uh indoctrination in the row. And

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Speaker 2: now he's he'll do the rowing. And then my little

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Speaker 2: one plays travel baseball. So we have a tournament. So

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Speaker 2: I helped coach on the baseball. So so we have

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Speaker 2: a tournament and I'll be at the tournament all day

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Speaker 2: on Mother's Day, which doesn't really go over well no,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, It makes sense to me.

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Speaker 2: So meanwhile I hear so I went to one. I

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Speaker 2: try to you know, I try to do everything right,

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Speaker 2: so you know, you want to try to do for

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Speaker 2: both kids. So I'm always working with both of them.

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Speaker 2: Like they both play football, so I'm always working with

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Speaker 2: them there and I help out at his high school team.

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Speaker 2: But so the rowing I really having a chance because

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Speaker 2: it's baseball season. We didn't we were off one weekend,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to one of the rowing things and I

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Speaker 2: was like, I was blown away because it's it's just

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Speaker 2: these elaborate tents that are set up and you know,

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Speaker 2: they bring griddles all kinds of like food, like they're

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Speaker 2: making meals, Like the guy, what are the parents? It's unbelievable,

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Speaker 2: how incredible this thing is, Like they make ridiculous meals

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Speaker 2: for the kids and the parents because it's bizarre, right,

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Speaker 2: Like you're there all day and the race you know

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Speaker 2: and last a minute. You know, it's nuts.

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Speaker 3: So I think the race is called regatta. Have to

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Speaker 3: use the actual term. Yes, it's somewhere some are I mean, okay,

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Speaker 3: I am completely out of the rowing space. I have

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Speaker 3: no I this.

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Speaker 2: Is my first yeah, my first foray, So it's awesome,

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Speaker 2: like you know, it really is, I mean, and then

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Speaker 2: I recommend it like for like if for whatever sport

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Speaker 2: you play, may get you in shape, like absolutely, and

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Speaker 2: became a beast, you know, I mean he was. He

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Speaker 2: would always like I had n't lift him, but you

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Speaker 2: know he's just you know he's scary.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, your arms, your back.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I was like, wow, yo, dude, man, it's good. It's

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Speaker 2: really good. You know, it gets your core rolling. Man.

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Speaker 2: So but I didn't know, I didn't know where. It's

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Speaker 2: the whole culture. Man, it's wild anyway, I mean, like

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Speaker 2: they put so she was like, so we do the

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Speaker 2: travel baseball and she burns her, right, because we have

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Speaker 2: these tournaments and they go it's the Mother's ats ornament.

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Speaker 2: And meanwhile, what happens is the moms have to get

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Speaker 2: together and you know, they do like a they'll have

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Speaker 2: to have like, oh, we're gonna do mimosa's, so it's

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Speaker 2: like a table and they'll pick up little things and

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Speaker 2: you know they might have a mimosa whatever. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's really not a lot. Meanwhile, the rowing thing, oh

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Speaker 2: they have everything. I mean you name it, like a

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Speaker 2: ridiculous high breakfast, you know, and then surf and turf

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Speaker 2: right like for a brunch, Like it's unbelievable what they have.

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Speaker 2: Nice and she's like, well, I'm going to be at

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Speaker 2: that rowing and they're taking care of the moms, unlike baseball,

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Speaker 2: where they just throw. We have to do our own.

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Speaker 2: It's a plastic glass of a mimosa and a dunkin

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Speaker 2: donut munchkin. Right. Well, I mean.

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Speaker 3: She's not wrong, but first of whose idea was it?

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Speaker 3: And I know you have certain schedules in certain seasons.

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Speaker 3: This is the Mother's Day tournament, Like maybe can you

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Speaker 3: take a hiatus for a weekend.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's possible. I mean, that's I mean, that's what

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Speaker 2: should happen. I mean, come on, right, right, they should

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Speaker 2: do that, but they don't, you know, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: not hya's for Easter. We were all for Easter, but

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Speaker 2: other than that, there was where we play every other weekend.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like, with all due respect to

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Speaker 3: the kids, these games are not like on ESPN eight

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Speaker 3: the OCHO or something where there's TV window time to

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Speaker 3: ask to be filled. I mean, you can definitely put

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Speaker 3: these off for another weekend or so back up the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Some people kids can spend a weekend with their mothers.

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Speaker 3: There's probably not too much to ask. Seems like a

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Speaker 3: little bit much to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, well if you think that's much, oh wait,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna wait, are you get in love? The fate

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Speaker 2: with the youth sports is unrecognizable from when we were kids. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and I'm older than you, so when you were a kid,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, it's not you know, ancient history,

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Speaker 2: it's it's completely different. It's not even it's unrecognizable. First

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Speaker 2: of all, you gotta play every sport, right, Like every

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Speaker 2: sport is all year long, like the basketball thing. Your

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Speaker 2: your travel basketball spring is a big deal, like you

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Speaker 2: can't play and be able to sport.

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Speaker 3: Which is insane because back in the day, to your point,

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Speaker 3: you had you know certain sports throughout the year. If

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Speaker 3: a certain play, play baseball, then you roll into basketball,

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Speaker 3: then you roll into football. It's a little bit of crossover.

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Speaker 3: But to your point, nowadays, I've definitely noticed you can't

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Speaker 3: play every sport because you're solely dedicated to the one.

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Speaker 3: There's no off season because once your your high school

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Speaker 3: season ends or your excuse me, your your your regular

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Speaker 3: school season ends. Now you're playing travel ball in the

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Speaker 2: It never stops.

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Speaker 3: It never ends, which I think is travesty is strong,

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Speaker 3: but I really think you're doing a detriment to a

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Speaker 3: camaraderie with their friends and their coaches. But everybody now

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Speaker 3: or an NFL player, and so that no, no, you

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Speaker 3: gotta work in the off season, you gotta lift weights,

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Speaker 2: Well I gotta do this for it. It's not. But

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Speaker 2: here's where it's changed too, because the nil is very real.

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Speaker 2: The it's not just about hey, you know we're gonna

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Speaker 2: try to you know, you could play and you're trying

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Speaker 2: everybody has. No you you're gonna get paid. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: go to college and get paid in college, which means

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Speaker 2: it's a huge pool. Right, So now all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden it's it's more of an attainable thing, a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit more of an attainable thing. But I mean, like

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Speaker 3: I mean, and the skid always scales.

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Speaker 2: As the numbers are the numbers, right, Like you know

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Speaker 2: it is. But when you're theoretically adding all those jobs

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Speaker 2: and that's what they are, right, those are very real.

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Speaker 2: They're real. I mean, I know, kids, well, I forget

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Speaker 2: the football. I mean, that's football is crazy. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not just talking about for quarterbacks. The quarterback thing is rare, right,

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Speaker 2: Like the quarterback you're you're I mean you're getting you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say you're you're set for life,

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Speaker 2: but you're getting money that you're good. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: in fact, his dad's a friend of mine, who's a

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to go to he's got all.

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Speaker 2: He just got Miami, he's got Georgia, Syracuse. I mean

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Speaker 2: he's going to wind up making you know, somewhere between

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Speaker 2: I don't know, five and fifteen million dollars, probably probably

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Speaker 2: closer closer to fifteen right over the course of his

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Speaker 2: college career. That's insane.

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Speaker 3: I mean when you look at Carson Beck, you know,

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Speaker 3: by what ten million dollars in nil for him, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, ever played, if he never goes to the NFL,

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Speaker 3: if he's somewhat smart with his money, he is generally

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's and that's the that's the you know,

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Speaker 2: the high side and the and the and the biggest upside.

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Speaker 2: But like it's very real, Like there's kids, you know,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's not it's not insane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, even if you're not a quarterback, you know

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Speaker 3: certain collectives. And then this happened with Utah I think

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Speaker 3: it was two years ago, not last year, where a

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Speaker 2: The roster a truck.

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Speaker 3: Yep, every player on the roster, whether you are a backup,

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman, walk on, whatever else, if you were on

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Speaker 3: the roster, they gave it to you. There's gonna be out.

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Speaker 3: And there's a lot more of those deals on Division

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Speaker 3: one programs. There's a ton of guys, the majority of

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Speaker 3: these people playing on these Division one rosters even have

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Speaker 3: no designs of making it, you know, to the NFL.

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Speaker 3: But you imagine want to give you a brand new

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Speaker 3: you can scrauch together a couple of shekels, you buy

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Speaker 3: yourself a little beater or whatever. Now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: That's one less expense that you have. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean these all those little things end up adding up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, the roster, the roster is going to

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Speaker 2: be caught, the whole, the landscapes fast. I have been

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Speaker 2: doing deep dodves into this stuff and I'm fascinated. But

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Speaker 2: I'm also working on a college football, uh scripted show.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I have a friend of mine ro

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Speaker 2: coaches and we're so I'm trying to live it with them,

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Speaker 2: and dude, it's it's like we know it, but when

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Speaker 2: you hear it and what their day to day life is.

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Speaker 2: First of all, the idea that you know the kids,

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Speaker 2: they get to renegotiate their content twice a year, basically

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Speaker 2: twice a year when the portals are open December and April.

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Speaker 2: It's free agency. Like you, I was told to a

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Speaker 2: sleep until the portal's closed. We're hoping that we don't

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Speaker 2: get a call from the collective saying the kid wants

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Speaker 2: Live Fellas, Kevin Figures, Anthony Gargano Figure Cuz with You,

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Speaker 2: And last night, the NBA playoffs continue to entertain. I

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Speaker 3: a guy who's going zero for four, oh for six

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Speaker 3: from three or whatever. It's been the last couple of

429
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: games and basically a negative, a net negative on the

430
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 3: offensive end of the floor. It's really hard to play

431
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 3: four on five with a team like Denver, who, when

432
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 3: they're on at least offensively, can score with the best

433
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: of them. Their defense might be up and down, uh,

434
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 3: but they can score with anyone. And when they choose

435
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 3: to lock in defensively, like they did in overtime, out

436
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 3: scoring them eleven to two. You know, that's that's the

437
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 3: championship medal. That's how you know they can end up

438
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: making a deep run despite dowgers like myself.

439
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, now what spot on. I mean, look, they were

440
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: nine for thirty five from three, you know, I mean

441
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: that's kind of that's what did him in.

442
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's and we can get into that when

443
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: we talk more about the names in the Celtics series too.

444
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 3: You know, they'll live by the three, die by the

445
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: three situation that a lot of these teams find themselves in.

446
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: And look, it's one thing if the look at the

447
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: three point shot is not if we understand the analytic

448
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: of it, and you know, if you're not gonna be

449
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: able to make threes, generally speaking, you're not gonna win.

450
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: But when you're not making them and you're in a close,

451
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: competitive game, you've got to be able to pivot and

452
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Speaker 3: do something else. You can't just keep going out there

453
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: and chucking it up, you know. I always go back

454
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: to that game seven between the Rockets and the Golden

455
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 3: State Warriors. I don't know if it was twenty eighteen,

456
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. It was one of the Kevin Durant Warrior teams.

457
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 3: That was Chris Paul and James Harden, that Rocket team,

458
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 3: and they started like zero for twenty six when three

459
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: or something, and it's like, I know that you're bread

460
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 3: and butter, but at a certain point you gotta be

461
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 3: able to switch it up and find and find a

462
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: different method. Just trying to saving over and over again

463
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Speaker 3: when it's not working is not gonna.

464
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Speaker 2: Work for you. I guess when I never understood is

465
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: you're if you're not shooting well, then you do not

466
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: do transition threes right now, you're bypassing layups for threes.

467
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Speaker 2: I I if you're not true by all means, if

468
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: you're feeling it all right, like you know like and

469
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 2: we know the difference, otherwise take take the easy bucket.

470
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: Right and you're seeing too many teams nowadays, there was

471
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: a game and towards the end of the regular season,

472
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: I forget what he were playing, but to the hero,

473
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: basically passed up shooting a layup that would have drawn

474
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: the heat within like two points in the final thirty

475
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 3: seconds and pulled up for a three when there was

476
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: nobody you know, it could have been. Was basically a breakaway.

477
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, I was feeling it.

478
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: What you mean, you're feeling it? You have a layup?

479
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: Shoot the layup.

480
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Speaker 3: But that was wrong with you.

481
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Speaker 5: I know.

482
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: That's the part of the NBA.

483
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 2: Four times this year was already.

484
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 3: When they'd be nice cold, yeah, and when you and

485
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: the problem with Boston too is it's not like you

486
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: don't have guys who can't attack. Jalen Brown Jason Tatum

487
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: are talented enough to be able to take guys off

488
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Speaker 3: the dribble, work in the pinch, post work, in the

489
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Speaker 3: mid range, and they're just choosing not to do it.

490
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Speaker 4: I know.

491
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Speaker 2: It makes no sense to me. Fields lazy is what

492
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: it feels. It is like I get that when they're

493
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: when they're shooting the ball, well, they're prolific, right, yeah,

494
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: but man, it's just it. I don't know. I'm with you.

495
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: I hate their offense. They shot Game one, they shot

496
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: sixty threes, right, sixty three, And you wonder why teams

497
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: come back on you.

498
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: Right, I mean the three point that's the great equalizer,

499
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 3: the three point shot. Oklahoma City, perfect example. You win

500
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: by forty three points because you made eighteen or nineteen

501
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: threes the other night, but now you make nine or

502
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 3: forty or whatever it is, and now you lose the game.

503
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 3: You can lose by twenty, you can be down by

504
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 3: twenty and come back, or be up by twenty and

505
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: lose because of an over reliance on the three point shot.

506
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Speaker 2: And you know, when you think about Okay se right

507
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: wherever they shot, I just said it from three, you know. Yet,

508
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 2: imagine if you didn't take thirty five threes and make

509
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: six or whatever it was, you wouldn't have went to overtime.

510
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: You don't won the game, correct, you know, absolutely? And

511
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: that game was That game was an ot game like Boston,

512
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: New York. The Knicks came back on him twice.

513
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: Twice, down by twenty twelve minutes, you know, I mean

514
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: that's unfixable. It's unheard of, you know, And that's where

515
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 3: and I look.

516
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: That's coaching, man, Yeah, that's your coach. I just have

517
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: a feeling that's why you're there. That's getting it to you.

518
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, getting into the hands of your players. Are saying,

519
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: Jaylen Brown, you're one for you're one for eight from three.

520
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: Maybe move inside a little bit, maybe take a go

521
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 3: hold school, do some mid range, which he can do.

522
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 3: Just attack the rim, attack the rim what you can

523
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: do and Tatum can do, and they're just choosing not

524
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: to do it.

525
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: It is lazy and it feel you know to me.

526
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: That's that, to me, is coaching. Gata go back to it,

527
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: like you got to understand nobody knows your team like

528
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: you do, and that's where you got to be like, yo,

529
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: fella's come on man, yeah you know we need buckets. Now.

530
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: There was an element too, because I don't know what

531
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: Joe Mizzoula is or isn't saying. In timeouts. He could

532
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: be saying, hey, Tatum, he needs to be more aggressive.

533
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: Tatum could take that as being like, all right, I'll

534
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: just shoot more, and it's like, well, no, be more

535
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: aggressive going to the rim. The coaches can only tell

536
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: the players what to do. Well, the players have to execute.

537
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: The problem is though, Yeah, the problem is like you

538
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: don't see a sea change in your attack, right, so

539
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: you still see them firing up freeze, right, So I

540
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: mean I I doubt they're just completely you know, blowing

541
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: them off, right, Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know,

542
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: I think that's what you're I think a lot of

543
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: coaches almost stubbornly like we're not going away from what

544
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: we do, right and listen, I'm all for it. But again,

545
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: if you're gonna run your offense, you have to be

546
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: multi faceted, multi prommed, especially when we have great players

547
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: like that that you know, you get you get, you

548
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: get buckets when you need to get buckets when you're

549
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: when you're freeze not fault, right. I mean there's sets.

550
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a philosophy like this is how we play,

551
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: which I understand. They look sometimes it doesn't work. Sometimes

552
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: you have to be, you know, a chameleon and change.

553
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: You know, do you see because I don't see I

554
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: don't see them, at least in the first two games

555
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: of the series. I didn't see them not teake suddenly

556
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: stop taking threes and trying to run a different offense

557
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: when I made a different offense, but make different decisions

558
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: with the basketball.

559
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, make you know, call plays that get

560
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: you guys, that gets guys on the move going towards

561
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: the basket, or you know, as opposed to trying to

562
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: set up the three as your first option. Now, granted,

563
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: this shooting the three point in some senses, especially in

564
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: the first half of Game two, help them get to

565
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: that twenty point lead, but at a certain point when

566
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: they start shipping away at it and it's not working,

567
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: you gotta do something to stimey the momentum. I mean,

568
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Game two, for the game they lost

569
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: in overtime to the Knicks. You show twenty two of

570
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: twenty six from the free throw line. You could have

571
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: shot thirty six free throws if he didn't shoot six

572
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: two three pointers, you know what I mean. It's things

573
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: like that that that just don't sit well with me.

574
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: And that's the end game adjustments that you have to

575
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: be able to make in series adjustments. By the way,

576
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: I don't think that Boston is done in the series.

577
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: People are saying like, oh, the Knicks are gonna win

578
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: this thing in five. I do think Boston is too

579
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: good of a shooting team to continue to shoot this

580
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: poorly in the series.

581
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: Now they'll have a game where they blow them out. Yeah,

582
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: they will, and that that could be I mean, you

583
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: know that could that could wind up being you know today.

584
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it could be the Cavs Indiana effects.

585
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: You know what happened in Indiana last night.

586
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: Oh, that garden is going to be crazy. Will be

587
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: a hell of an atmosphere. Ah, the celebrity row all man,

588
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: that's gonna be nuts. It will.

589
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: I'm going forwards it that the NBA is better when

590
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: the Knicks are good. I agree, if they haven't been

591
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: good very often the last twenty years. So yeah, this

592
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: is pretty exciting.

593
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: The uh so, if you go back to game two,

594
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: Pritchard hits a three that puts him up sixteen, all right,

595
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: and then if you go down and you start looking

596
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the play by play and they continue

597
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: to just jack up threes like there's a possession. They're

598
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: up fourteen, eighty four to seventy. Pritchett gets a board,

599
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: jacks up a three to get an offensive rebound. Pritchett

600
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: takes another thirty three foot three right clank clank bridges.

601
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: Right scores eighty four to seventy two. Horford three clank

602
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: bridges makes a lut eighty four to seventy four. Horford

603
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: misses bridges eighty four to seventy seven. Derek White misses

604
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: another three. All right, and then it's well, look, every

605
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: possession is a three, Derek White. It's eighty six eighty

606
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: Derek White missus a three. Heart makes it because the

607
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: Knicks are all inside, they're all in the paint.

608
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just looking at the shot shart from

609
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. The Celtics are all above the three

610
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: point line than the Knicks have a handful of three

611
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: point shots, but they're all.

612
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: In the paint. Josh Hart another one, little little floater.

613
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: It's eighty six eighty two. What happens? Jalen Brown misses

614
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: a three. It's unbelievable. Man.

615
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: Well, you know what if you know how this works

616
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: to what ends up happening when the lead starts to shrink,

617
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: you know, and all of a sudden, there's more and

618
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: more pressure on the team that has to gie you're tighter. Yeah,

619
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Speaker 3: you're tighter, So your SHOT's gonna be a little bit

620
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: you know off, you know, you're pressing a little bit more.

621
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Speaker 3: It's easier to make her layup in that situation.

622
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Speaker 2: Than nice to make a three tack the rent right,

623
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Speaker 2: you know again the little shoulder. I know. All right,

624
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Speaker 2: let's say quick to you continue our talk hanging on

625
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:10,920
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626
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Speaker 2: Anthony Gargan hanging out with you on this Mother's Day weekend. Hey,

634
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: I gotta throw this at you. So yesterday the Pablo Torre,

635
00:34:54,520 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 2: who's a really good podcaster for me ESPN guy, came

636
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: out and said that Jordan Hudson, Belichick's girl friend was

637
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Speaker 2: banned from North Carolina from the facility. In the whole thing,

638
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: right and man, right away, the statement came from the school.

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Speaker 2: She is not banned and she is welcome at the facility.

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Speaker 2: And you saw the picture of her in the cowboy

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00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 2: boots on the field. I mean, what's good ole fake.

642
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: I feel like someone's playing some giant like joke on

643
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: us or something. Right, right, none of this is real

644
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: And this is like the most anti Bill Belichick thing.

645
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: If you would have told us, you know, eight nine

646
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: years ago, when the Patriots were still in the thick

647
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: of their dynasty, that a decade later, Bill Belichick would

648
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: be dating a twenty something year old who's you know,

649
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 3: a button head inside of an interview that he's doing

650
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: about their how they met, and whether or not she's

651
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: banned from the facility, no one would ever believe you.

652
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: You could not be able to make this up. We're

653
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: being I truly believe like this is like a real

654
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: life punked situation or something. None of this seems real.

655
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: I can't make sense of it. I really can't go on.

656
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: It's the weirdest story ever. You know, forget about age

657
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: difference and whatever the optics are, just having a Bill

658
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: Belichick being led around by his nose. Yeah, I mean,

659
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: it's bizarre, like it's Belichick of all people, right, Like, listen,

660
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: you knew he was mercurial, right, Like, I'll never forget

661
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: during the thick of the Patriots run there is he

662
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: pops up in an interview on CNBC, and I was like,

663
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: oh my god, he was so ridiculously charming in the interview, right,

664
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't about football. There was a little football,

665
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: but it was more about leadership, about life. He was

666
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: like showing this great depth, like and he was engaging,

667
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: he was charming. It was dirty, it was you know,

668
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: right in the middle of everything. And I'm going, man,

669
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: he does have a side toem. Yeah.

670
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: Anybody that knows him, which I don't, but people have

671
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 3: talked to that do know what I'm saying, Like he's

672
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: very funny, very engaging. He just kind of puts on

673
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: for the media that this is really tough guy persona

674
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 3: that doesn't talk and doesn't but anyone that actually knows

675
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: him says that he's actually a pretty entertaining, pretty thoughtful,

676
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: pretty funny guy, which I've never denied. Certain people put

677
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: on certain faces for the media. I understand that. But

678
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: to your point, to seemingly be led around like a

679
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: puppy dog by a you know, a twenty what is

680
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: she twenty four, twenty three year old? Yeah, woman, it

681
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: just seems unbecoming of Bill Belichick.

682
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: It really does well, especially when it feels like, hey,

683
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: It's one thing when you're doing yoga on the beach,

684
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: all right, all right, whatever, you know, it's weird but

685
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: all right, right to each his own. But when you're

686
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: she's woken around on the football field dressed like Katie Perry, Like,

687
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: I mean, yo, yo, Bill, this is something that now

688
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: let's work, Like how does that you want to talk about?

689
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: You know, the podcast and she's in charge of the

690
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: pocket like because the stories of that are are making

691
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: the rounds. It's crazy. Like, you know, people, it's a

692
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: small world, right, and some people will tell you all

693
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: kinds of stories about what's going on behind the otherdog thing, right,

694
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: But that's one thing the football field I thought that

695
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: was sacred.

696
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 3: It should be, especially for someone like Bill Belichick.

697
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: Well yeah, shit, you're gonna walk around in those boots

698
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 2: and the whole thing. Like what like if you're a

699
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: if you said your son there, your son was a

700
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: great player.

701
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 3: No, well, first of all, I mean that the story

702
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: about the hard knocks that was initially gonna happen and

703
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: then wasn't gonna happen. The fact that it was even

704
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 3: discussed in a Bill Belichick program told me that something

705
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 3: was off, because that's something he never would have done

706
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: in New England. And then you follow that up with this,

707
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going through like a some

708
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: sort of crisis or something. You know, you can't call

709
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: it a mid life crisis. He's what eighty year knocking

710
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: on the door of eighty years old at this point

711
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: in time. But I still something's definitely happened in there.

712
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, and I don't think

713
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: it's good for inst for you, unc football, I'll put

714
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: it that way. Everyone's talk about everything except football, and

715
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 3: that's the anti Belichick.

716
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: At least a Belichick we've known for the last forty years.

717
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: It's it's the whole thing is just so crazy, man,

718
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: It's insane. All right, Fellas, Big Hour coming up next up,

719
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Speaker 2: going to her right here, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Don't listen to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

721
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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, happy happy Mother's

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Speaker 2: Day weekend to all cross the country. It is the

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Speaker 2: fe Kevin Figures Anthony Garganta as we come to you

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Speaker 2: alive from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Figure. Uh, best

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Speaker 2: mom and sports moment that you've ever had, Oh mom

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Speaker 2: in sports moment, it could be her taking you to

727
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Speaker 2: one of your games, it could be watching a game together,

728
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Speaker 2: just any kind of confluence of mom and sports.

729
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Speaker 3: There is not many, to be honest, because my mother

730
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: did support all of my athletic efforts when I was

731
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 3: in middle school or have you, But my mom is

732
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: not a sports fan at all, so we never actually

733
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 3: sat and watched sports together. The fact that she made

734
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Speaker 3: a great effort to come to many of my games,

735
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Speaker 3: even again, a lot of games where I didn't even play.

736
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Speaker 3: But the fact that she, know, working to sometimes three

737
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 3: jobs and it's still carving out time in her day

738
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Speaker 3: to make sure that she supported what I did was

739
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 3: really big of her. And I know there are a

740
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: lot of friends whose parents were in the same situation

741
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: and they didn't necessarily get at least that consistent support.

742
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: So I've always loved and appreciated her for supporting the

743
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: things that I was involved in. So I can give

744
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 3: that as a general overview for sure.

745
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, which is huge.

746
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: You know, anybody that's not that's you know that is

747
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: a parent or you know, has been in a situation

748
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: like that. You just knowing you have that sort of

749
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: support from anybody that you care about, let alone your

750
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: actual parents, is so huge.

751
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it truly is and it shows you

752
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 2: your you know, the selflessness that they had right, Like

753
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 2: they're not My mother wasn't into sports either, right, but man,

754
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 2: you know because we loved it. You know, they would

755
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: do anything, right, you know. I remember my mother and

756
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: my aunt there were sisters, and uh, they would take

757
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: me and my cousin to the baseball game. You know

758
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: that mean, like clockwork, we had people there and they

759
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: would It was like a great cheap day out right,

760
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: and we loved it, right because we're just you know,

761
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: it's going to the Phillies game, going to the ball game, yeah,

762
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: and the countless games. And then she would come to

763
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: our games and and her and my aunt and and

764
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: it was it was the best you know that they were.

765
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: They they're special. Uh all right, So let's let's dive

766
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: back into the NBA for a second, because today here's

767
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: what we got going on. So you're we got Game

768
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: three of Celtics and Knicks. Now it's gonna be back

769
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: at the garden. The Knicks. You know, it's funny. I

770
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: thought they were good, but I didn't think that they

771
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: were a championship team, did you.

772
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: No, I mean, truth be told I still don't. But

773
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: in the big stat that everybody used against them heading

774
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: into the postseason is they're losing record or subpar record

775
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: against quality opponents that they beat up on a lot

776
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 3: of bad teams, but when they came to actually facing

777
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: the cream of the crop, they really struggled. And now

778
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: you totally flip that at this point in time and

779
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 3: look at what they've done to Boston or granted you

780
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: fall behind twice by twenty points, but to the grit

781
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: and the fight to be able to come back and

782
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 3: do that to them on the road, the defending champions.

783
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: It says something about just their mental makeup and how

784
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: tip they are. And like nobody will ever question the

785
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: mental toughness or physical toughness of a TIBs team. Usually

786
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: the issue that people have is like they end up

787
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 3: getting run down. Because we talked about all the minutes

788
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: that the Nuggets starters played last night. You know, usually

789
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: TIBs teams, by the time they get to the game six,

790
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: game seven of a series are just worn out because

791
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: they played so many minutes. So I wonder how that

792
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: attrition is gonna end up. Like Michael mccal bridges played

793
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 3: fifty one minutes in Game one fifty one. I know

794
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: they win the overtime, but I mean fifty six Randanobi

795
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 3: Brunton only forty four, which is impressive, like so eventually

796
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: and between.

797
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: And these are grind minutes like these are these these

798
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: are these aren't highway miles, you know.

799
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, say what you want about Boston. Yes, they shoot

800
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: a lot of threes. They ain't soft, right, these are

801
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: These are tough, physical games that you're playing.

802
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: So I wonder how those Nova Nicks are used to

803
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: playing like that. They're used to playing big minutes, and

804
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: they're grit like Josh Hart. Yeah, he does every bit

805
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: of grit. I love Josh Hart because he's the ultimate

806
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: lunch pal guy. He'll readbown four, you step back, make

807
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 2: a three. He's got great court vision, so always making

808
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: the right pass. He usually makes the right basketball play

809
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: like he's just such a glue guy. Him and Bridges

810
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: are I I you know, I mean Brunson. Brunston is

811
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: just the beast man, the gest tough as they come.

812
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 2: He's a Roodelphia guard with all kinds of tough things.

813
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 2: You just relentless. He's not scared.

814
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 3: You're not scared of the moment that doesn't care. That's

815
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 3: one of the cluss I think there's I guess that

816
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: there's a new award over the last couple of years,

817
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: the Clutch Player of the Year, which he won because

818
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: every time a big shot needs to be made, it

819
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: was always Jalen Brunson.

820
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: I got.

821
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: I want to think for a lot of people that

822
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: still doubt it, he's not seen as a you know,

823
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: top ten player in the NBA. The way that he's

824
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: played the last three seasons, I don't know how you

825
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 3: can argue against it. When you know he's gonna get

826
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: the ball. You know, he's taking every big shot and

827
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: more often than not, at least it seems like he

828
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: makes it and when it matters most, and big big

829
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Speaker 3: moments against you know, the defending champions on.

830
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: The road twice, Yeah, the playoffs.

831
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Speaker 3: It's insane.

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00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: Do you remember when the Knicks offered that contract and everybody,

833
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: you and I are probably like, wow, man, that's a

834
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: lot of money for Brunson. Right, he was good in Dallas.

835
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: He was he was a good player, and he had

836
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: a couple of breakout games. They were like all right, cool,

837
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 3: but it's like wow, the Knicks really overreacting and just

838
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 3: overpaid this guy because they had money to spend and they.

839
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 2: Have to spend it on somebody. It turned out to

840
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: be a great turned out to be great signing man.

841
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: Phenomenal signing.

842
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: I mean a steal, one of the great free agent

843
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: acquisitions in the last you know, fifteen.

844
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Speaker 2: Years, do you? And again you know they have they

845
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: have the great to knock that to actually finish the job. Now,

846
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I'm not counting Boston out because

847
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: they can go into the Garden and win by forty

848
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: today like you that can at some one of those games,

849
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: their threes are gonna fall and it's gonna be they'll

850
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: be ugly. Right. So if you're an if you're a

851
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: fan of the Knicks, you just got to look at

852
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: it like it's math. Man. I just need to win

853
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: one of these two games at home. That was my thought.

854
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: I gotta get one.

855
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: I need to be three to one going back to

856
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 3: Boston to feel good myself.

857
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you then you feel great because you go,

858
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: all right, Boston. If I'm up three to one, Boston

859
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: is gonna have at night where they don't shoot the ball. Well,

860
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: they're not gonna shoot the lights out in all three games.

861
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: You know, in five, six, and seven, a couple of them,

862
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: I would have bet that they would, yes, right, but

863
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a game where they don't shoot well,

864
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: and that's gonna be our opening to close them out.

865
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: Right.

866
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know people always talk about when you know

867
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: a player is hot or a team is hot, there's

868
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: a regression to the mean. I often feel like with

869
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 3: teams like Boston there's a progression back to the mean. Yeah,

870
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: not as bad as they've been shooting these last Cup

871
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 3: they were one of the best three point shooting teams.

872
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: In the entire league. Yep.

873
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: That's how they thrive. That's how they won sixty games,

874
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: sixty one games this year. So they're gonna get back

875
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: to being themselves here. It's probably gonna start today. I honestly,

876
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 3: if I had to bet, and I don't know what

877
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: the line is, I would absolutely favorite Boston, even though

878
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: they're in New York, because their backs are essentially against

879
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: the I think Boston's winning this game today, and the

880
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 3: big one is gonna be Game four.

881
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: Boston's five and a half.

882
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: I'd see, yeah, And you know what, I'd probably take that.

883
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: And I think last night Cleveland was around I mean

884
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: that maybe they were four and a half five, well

885
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: ask the brain later, but I think they were four

886
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: and a half five yesterday in Indiana, right, which is

887
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: also a tough place to play. And you know, the

888
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: Pacers have been doing the same thing the Nicks have

889
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: been doing to to Boston with the Pacers have done

890
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: to Cleveland.

891
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

892
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I'm telling you talk about in game

893
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 3: adjustments or in series adjustments. You know, Cleveland one number one,

894
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: Cleveland getting three of their top players back makes a

895
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: huge difference. I mean, not having those guys. Yeah, he's

896
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 3: obviously tough sledding and they still almost won that game. Yeah,

897
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 3: excuse me, but switching up and playing his own defense,

898
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 3: just completely throwing Indiana out of their out of sorts.

899
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Howlett Burdon had what three points or whatever?

900
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you had a horrible playoff game, like the

901
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 3: worst playoff games of his career after going off in

902
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: games winning game two.

903
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean think about it when you all

904
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: of a sudden box him in and he's a terrific player, right,

905
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 2: and he's right, yeah he can, but he needs space

906
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: to work. And you know they clogged. It was smart.

907
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: It was a good move and it really messed him up,

908
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: mess their rhythm up. You know. I mean he's a

909
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: good shooter, but he's not great shooter. He's got to

910
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: penetrate right well.

911
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 3: And then the problem is when you're penetrating too And

912
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 3: now you have Evan Mobley, the defensive player of the year,

913
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: back on the back line and even the front line

914
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: at times on his own defense.

915
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: That's just hard.

916
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 3: That's tough sledding him. By the way, Donovan Mitchell's been

917
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: a beast like even though they lost the first couple

918
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 3: of games. I mean, it wasn't because of him. He's

919
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: been spectator and continued it last night.

920
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: He's a game.

921
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 3: He gets lost in the shuffle when talking about great

922
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: players and great playoff performers. You know, even those Utah

923
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 3: teams were never great, but he always brought it.

924
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: You know, he was always you.

925
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 3: Knew you could rely on Donovan Mitchell to play well

926
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: when it mattered.

927
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: Most, do you? Because which fascinated to this the next thing,

928
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 2: because just to get back to it, I didn't think

929
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 2: that they were a title team, right, championship contender? Man,

930
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: you know, they could they could beat Cleveland. I mean

931
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: this team could go to the finals. They could. I mean,

932
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: you beat Boston.

933
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: I mean that's obviously gonna be the toughest test you're

934
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: gonna face through the Eastern Conference. So if you can,

935
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 3: if you if you find a way to be Boston,

936
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 3: why can't you beat Cleveland and certainly Indiana at that point?

937
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and do way you're great is they're

938
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: a great story man.

939
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: There really are. And it's as hard as it is

940
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: for people to root for, you know, a team like

941
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: New York just you know, the market and all that,

942
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: the way that they play, they're easy to root for

943
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: because they're not superstar late and we talked about Jalen

944
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: Brunton not being lauded as a great superstar face of

945
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: the league type. They don't have any superstars like that.

946
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: They don't have Lebron, they don't have you know, you know,

947
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum. They're just a workmanlike crew. And yes, Jays

948
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 3: Jalen Brunt is a great player, but the police is

949
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: around him. It's like a hole is better than some

950
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: of its parts. Like they're just a very very tough,

951
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 3: defensive minded team who never gets down. They get down

952
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: by twenty and they fight back and never give up.

953
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 3: So it's usually it's rare that a team like New

954
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: York can end up being a favorite or like a

955
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: darling of your sort of your everyday NBA fan who

956
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: usually would hate on a franchise like the Knicks or

957
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: the Lakers or a major market team like that.

958
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: I know, I know. You know what's wild too, is

959
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna have like that scene tonight is gonna be amazing.

960
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a great scene.

961
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: Man.

962
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, because what was the last time Nick fans had

963
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 3: like real hope, true hope. It's been a while.

964
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: Trying to remember. Like I covered, I used to work

965
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: for New York Posts and I covered the last kind

966
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: of before this. I mean, hey, I mean nineties right

967
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: Riley into Jeff, and I mean it was it was

968
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: great stuff. I mean I was at that game where

969
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 2: there was the big brawl of Miami and Alonzo Morning

970
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: had had Van God, it was holding it was crazy

971
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: Vic Goddy's holding on. There was ankles and a lots

972
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: of Morning trying to shake him off like he's a

973
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: like a shit zu right, like a little dog. It

974
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: was bizarre. It was crazy. Yeah, Yeah, it was wild. No, man,

975
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: it's been a long time three point thirty today Eastern.

976
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: I mean that's gonna be uh, that's gonna be a

977
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: spectacle man Saturday afternoon at the Guard. That's great sports

978
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: right there. It really is, it really is.

979
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 3: And I you know this is you know, no shade

980
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: to the Boston Actually plenty of shade to the Boston Celtics.

981
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 3: I know, no disrespect. But I'm a Laker fan. So

982
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 3: anytime Boston wins, I lose. That's the way I look

983
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: at it. So I hope the Knicks actually come out

984
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 3: and come out in full force behind their home crowd

985
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 3: and find a way to get this win and go

986
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: up through nothing. The problem is, I think Boston is

987
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: just too good and too talented. I don't see that happening.

988
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. How's How's how's the fallout been for

989
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: you between the Lakers and Clippers? Not great.

990
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: I think both teams had aspirations of winning their series.

991
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: I think a lot of pundits thought that both teams

992
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 3: both LA teams have win their series in five or six,

993
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 3: so obviously disappointing. I think more disappointing for the Lakers

994
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 3: because people thought that the offensive ceiling with Luca Lebron

995
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 3: and Austin Reeves would just be too much for Minnesota,

996
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 3: even though Minnesota is younger and has a lot of wings,

997
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, Austin Reeves came up small. Lebron

998
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: had one great game, but it was okay the rest

999
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: of the series. Luca got sick in Game three, I

1000
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 3: believe it was, and it wasn't himself, So I would

1001
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 3: say it's measured disappointment because honestly, the roster was not

1002
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: really formulated for success.

1003
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: Around Luca Doncership's talents.

1004
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: That's why people say it's so hard to win a

1005
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 3: championship or make a deep run when you make such

1006
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 3: a seismic trade mid season. It almost never happens where

1007
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: a team makes a deep run because there's the team

1008
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: is built one way in the offseason, and now you

1009
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: have to change your entire orbit around a different type

1010
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 3: of player. That's just really hard to change on the

1011
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 3: on you know, a mid season. And for the Clippers

1012
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: it was actually as not shocking, but yeah, you thought

1013
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 3: that James Harden being the you know, the big guy

1014
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 3: and not the a guy on the team might help

1015
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: and let a little bit of pressure. But the problem

1016
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 3: is they still relied on him. Kawhi Leonard can play well,

1017
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: but they were not going to win unless James Harden

1018
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: pulled his weight and unfortunately in all of the lowss.

1019
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: I lived through it, dude, Yeah, I live through it. Ah,

1020
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: Game six against the Celtics close them out hardest. Some

1021
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: guys just for.

1022
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 3: Whatever reason, can't get it done when it matters the most,

1023
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 3: but yet they want to run it back. Lawrence Frank said, like,

1024
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: you know, James Harden is our top priority in the

1025
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: off season, so they have no designs of letting them go.

1026
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, you know you can get this

1027
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: certain threshold.

1028
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, he played seventy nine games. It

1029
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: was a really good player. His numbers were listened this year.

1030
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 2: He's a great ballplayer, man, Like he just is great ballplayer.

1031
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: He just always will lump up. I mean, that's just

1032
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: gotta say what it is, you know, I mean you

1033
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 2: see it every year.

1034
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: Well, it's really hard to try to build the championship

1035
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: contender around someone who is an eighty two game player

1036
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: but can't really bring it with it matters when you

1037
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 3: need him the most in the postseason.

1038
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: There's something about I don't know what it is. Too,

1039
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 2: because it's not like in the games, it's really he

1040
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: just played poorly, like the whole game.

1041
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying it's not like the final thirty seconds

1042
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: he's like over thirty or whatever.

1043
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 2: It's right or short your front rims it and short

1044
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: arms like like that. He's tight tight, he just plays

1045
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: bead right bad.

1046
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: And you know it's and I mean this this has happened.

1047
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 3: He's been in the league now for what fourteen years

1048
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 3: whatever it's been. Yeah, I mean this goes back to

1049
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 3: his days at Oklahoma City. Yeah, that NBA Finals series

1050
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 3: they lost to the Heat. He was terrible. Yeah, after

1051
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: being probably their most important player, not for kidding, not

1052
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 3: named Kevin Durant. He had that entire postseason run leading

1053
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 3: up to it.

1054
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: And the issue is, like you can say all you want,

1055
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: like he's he's not the prime merry guy. He's got

1056
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 2: the ball in his hands, correct, He's the point he's

1057
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: the point guard. So because you have the ball in

1058
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: your hands, you have to play. There's no hiding. It's

1059
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: not like you know you're playing off the ball. You ball,

1060
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: You're it's about you, right, I mean I dealt with

1061
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: it within beating him and listen, and they were both

1062
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: I mean they played well together, but like game six,

1063
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: they're up three to two against Boston, Game six and home,

1064
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: and they just were tight the chances to pull away.

1065
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: In that game. Jason Tatum was hard. I don't know

1066
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: if you remember the game. He was like Jason Tatum

1067
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: was like one for twenty two or something, Yes, something ridiculous. Yes,

1068
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: And then they're hagging around, hagging around the harder to bead.

1069
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: They can't get any separation. And then then Tatum fallally

1070
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: got hot like five of his last six or something

1071
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, yeah, inside inside three minutes in the game,

1072
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: and they just and they ran away the last three

1073
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: minutes and the game seven, they'd even show up Game

1074
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: seven and I saw him do it. You're previous against

1075
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: Miami where they don't show up I mean hard. It

1076
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: just didn't fly. It like he was shot after game six.

1077
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the hard part. Like we're just talking about

1078
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: a guy like Jalen Brunson, you know, work hard, bulldog,

1079
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: Maybe not the most naturally talented, but there's an it

1080
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: factor to him.

1081
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: He's not scared of the moment.

1082
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: I mean, James Harden is a better player than Jalen

1083
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: Brunson if we're just put him side by side like

1084
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 3: prime for prime. But if you're asking like who would

1085
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 3: I rather have on my team? Would anybody argue against

1086
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: a Jalen Brunson? Oh No, I mean he's just built differently.

1087
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now he's man. He's just tough, strong with the ball,

1088
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: and he just lays it out. I mean, you know

1089
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: that's not hard. He's game right, right. But I got

1090
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: to answer you what the Bakers sure, and we're gonna

1091
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: take We'll take quick TL, we'll come right back. But

1092
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: what do you do? What do you do? Are you

1093
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: gonna go after a big? Do you want to take

1094
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: a shot with Joe LMBI? Do you want to make

1095
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: a beast? Now? After the break? No, think about it.

1096
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: Think a moment, Think about how you would respond to

1097
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: the trade offer? All right? Where the fellas hanging out

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Speaker 2: Fellas Figgie, Kevin Figures, I'm cuz Anti Garget, I'm hanging

1105
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: out on a Saturday morning, Mother's Day weekend, our fine

1106
00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: production team, pre Brie and of course mighty mark Uh.

1107
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: I asked you a question because I was curious to

1108
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: see how desperate right now the Lakers for a big

1109
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 2: would they take a flyer on, say Joel Ebid?

1110
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, no way, you know, first of all, outside

1111
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 3: of the obvious reasons, the injury history and all that

1112
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 3: he's making fifty five million dollars next year, followed by

1113
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: fifty eight, sixty two and then sixty seven the years

1114
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: after that. On top of the fact, again like I mentioned,

1115
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: injury issues, one the Lakers couldn't put it put together

1116
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: enough salaries to even trade for Joel Embiid.

1117
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, we worked it out. It was

1118
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: like Hotchie more like, you're not giving up anything, okay,

1119
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: I mean it's only the only think you're giving up

1120
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: is like a pick. There's like two picks and Dulton

1121
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: Cannact and the rest are just expiring contracts.

1122
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean those expiring contracts are kind of important

1123
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 3: to what they do. Like riochmorro Is one of their

1124
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 3: top rotation players. Austin Reeves obviously is their third option.

1125
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: You know, Gabe Vincent came on towards the end of

1126
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 3: last season.

1127
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: I think you're getting it without read You're you're not

1128
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: getting up giving up Reeves.

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Speaker 3: That would be the okay, because it was under my

1130
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: assumption that you would have to give them up if

1131
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: you're making that trade, in which the Lakers would not do.

1132
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: So you're said a way to do it without that,

1133
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: because here's the thing, if you're the Sixers, you have

1134
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: to make a decision. Now. I don't I don't think

1135
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: they're going to do this because I think More is

1136
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: gonna run it back and it's going to be another disaster.

1137
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 3: Well, there's there's very little wigger room that he has.

1138
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: Well no, I mean you have two choices. You give

1139
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 2: and beat away and Paul George away nothing right. Basically,

1140
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: what we can do is you get out of the

1141
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 2: contracts and you build around Maxie McCain and you know,

1142
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: you just you start over. You have a you have

1143
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: a lottery pick coming up, you know, and and then

1144
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: so you build that way and you just scrap it right,

1145
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: and if you're the Lakers, you're going all right. Like

1146
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: I'm still like, here's a shame about him being is

1147
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: that he has to come to grips with his knee

1148
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: is got you know, cartlage damage right, Like, there's a

1149
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: lack of cartilage, and it's sometimes painful and uncomfortable. Really

1150
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: more than pain, it just doesn't sometimes doesn't feel right,

1151
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 2: which messes you ups. But he can play like he's

1152
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: got to get through it and Tody, he could play now.

1153
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: He may not be his old explosive self which made

1154
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: him like ridiculous, but he's still a plier.

1155
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 3: Yes, but you're asking me to trade for a player

1156
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 3: who again has four more guarantee years on his contract

1157
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 3: at sixty plus million dollars, who you just mentioned, has

1158
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: no cartilage, who's born on bone, which is only going

1159
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 3: to get worse as he gets older. Who anywhere is

1160
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 3: trading for that?

1161
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: That's the issue. Well, especially with this new restrictive.

1162
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 3: CBA with first and second April luxury taxes and all that,

1163
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 3: and this guy's going to eat up thirty percent of

1164
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 3: your salary cap of the amount of money he's making.

1165
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if any team would trade for that

1166
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 2: contract right now. That's that's the problem. No, I'm with you.

1167
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean it has to be a special situation, like

1168
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 2: how many years does Lebron have left. Yeah, well, look,

1169
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: I would think you know, he had a player because

1170
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: here's the thing. You know, medical science is amazing, right,

1171
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: so you know there's with transplanters, what kinds of things

1172
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: that they can yeah, to extend Yeah, to extend careers. Right,

1173
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: And it's a great selling point. By the way, I

1174
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: love the job you're doing. This is great. Well, he

1175
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: could play like it's not like he like he's a talent.

1176
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: He's a talent. Like you're not getting anybody else anywhere,

1177
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: You're not getting anybody close to his ability. No, but

1178
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 2: even if he's not what he was at his prime,

1179
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: he's still a great player. Yeah, you're right, you're gonna

1180
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,479
Speaker 2: have Now you have. Did Lebron complain about not having

1181
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 2: the big.

1182
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, when the problem is so now you have

1183
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 3: Lebron making fifty, you have Luca making fifty, and you

1184
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 3: have him making fifty. So now you have to fill

1185
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 3: out the roster with a bunch of minimum salary guys.

1186
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 3: Lebron is forty and has had injury issues. Luca is

1187
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 3: twenty six. But I mean it's had issue of injury issues.

1188
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: That's why he got traded. Endurability or whatever, his weight

1189
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: whenever you whatever. Dalla tried to make up as why

1190
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 3: they traded him and then beat us health issues. So

1191
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: those are gonna be your big three with the roster

1192
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 3: full of minimum salary players having to fill the rest

1193
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 3: of it out. I mean, it's gonna be hard to

1194
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: get through eighty two games having those guys play the

1195
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 3: bulk of the minutes in the bulk of the games,

1196
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 3: just don't have any depth.

1197
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 2: You have no doubt. You're just doing this for the

1198
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: play I mean, you're gonna be a four or five

1199
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: seed and you're doing it to take a shot in

1200
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

1201
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 3: Isn't be going to be available and healthy for the playoffs?

1202
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I wish I could tell you that.

1203
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 3: But that's the that's the problem, man. That's why I

1204
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 3: can't make the move.

1205
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: Even if I could. I don't see what we make

1206
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: the move. I will. You're not You're not gonna go.

1207
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: You're not gonna win. The issue is, and I know

1208
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: what you're trying to do, which I would do the

1209
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: same thing, which is prolong your window with Luca. Correct

1210
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: And that's what you're trying to do. And that makes

1211
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: sense to me. I mean I get it. Yeah, I'm not.

1212
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 3: I don't think the problem is I'm not prolonging my

1213
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 3: window with Luca by trading for Embiid, who is a

1214
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: taking time bomb, who might he might retire before his

1215
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 3: contract is even up. His injury history is that dire,

1216
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 3: with a frame that big, with the kind of injuries

1217
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 3: that he's had. Yes, there's medical science and they have

1218
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 3: injectionable ejectionable cartilage and all that stuff, which lasts for

1219
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 3: like two weeks. By the way, I just don't see

1220
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: them doing that. They'd rather let Lebron James walk after

1221
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 3: next season, after at least or maybe the season after that,

1222
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 3: clear off money and they try to go into free

1223
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 3: agency and try to bring in another start to play

1224
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 3: with Luca that way, or trade for somebody younger or

1225
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 3: more durable.

1226
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: But you're not trade for you don't have any assets

1227
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 2: to trade for anybody of note. No, you can't improve

1228
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: on the margin.

1229
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: You can get a big you can get somebody that

1230
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 3: can come in and be a lob threat, which Luca wants.

1231
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 3: You can improve around the margins, sure, and bank on

1232
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 3: Austin Reeves and Lebron and Luca be having a full

1233
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: training camp together and formulating an offense and having some

1234
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 3: continuity while adding another piece or two. I do that

1235
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 3: before I would trade for someone like Joel Embiid.

1236
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, it's fair, it's I don't blame you, Yeah,

1237
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: but I.

1238
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: Feel bad for the Sixers just in general, because it's

1239
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 3: really hard trying to find a way out of that

1240
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,479
Speaker 3: MB contract at this point.

1241
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you can't. I mean again, unless

1242
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 2: you had a team that goes right, well, I'll take

1243
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 2: a shot, and we just went through the exercise and

1244
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: taking a shot on a great player with a degenerative

1245
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 2: knee is you know, I mean, I don't know always

1246
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 2: doing that. Yeah, I don't think the Lakers would be

1247
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: the only to be the only place to go, because

1248
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: you go, well, if the knee, if you can handle it,

1249
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: you're getting a great player, you know. But the problem,

1250
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: like you said, is you know, what's he going to

1251
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 2: be like in three years or four years and when

1252
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 2: that contract is still going on and yeah, you know

1253
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: what that kind of money.

1254
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 3: I would entertain an anthony if he was on the

1255
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 3: second to last year of his deal or something. Yeah,

1256
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: maybe I'd do that, But when his contract isn't up until.

1257
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 2: To d and I it's saddens me because but I

1258
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: like it beating, and I think he gets a raw

1259
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: deal in the sense that you know, he got he

1260
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: got injuries. He's a huge guy and he's hurt. You

1261
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 2: can't control that sort of thing, you know, and he's

1262
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 2: always flying on the floored it. I mean, that's kind

1263
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 2: of how he's always played.

1264
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Anthony Davis got a lot of

1265
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 3: flack out here for that exact same reason. He always

1266
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 3: always heard and he's soft and he's so he's not soft,

1267
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 3: but he just gets injured a lot. That happens to

1268
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 3: certain guys for whatever. Some guys are injury prone and

1269
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 3: it's it's not their fault. They can't control it. It

1270
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 3: just happens. That's especially if you're especially if your body's

1271
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: built a certain way like em beat, you know, and look,

1272
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 3: you have a devastating injury already, you know, your first

1273
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 3: year coming out and then you know you start compensating

1274
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 3: and doing other things. Is going to build up over

1275
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 3: the course of your career. And look, a body frame

1276
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 3: as big as his and as good of an athlete

1277
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 3: as he was in his prime, is not meant to

1278
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 3: like take the beating and the wear and tear and

1279
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 3: running up and down the court as often. So just

1280
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 3: that in and of itself is not good or conducive

1281
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 3: to long term success. Add on the fact on top

1282
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 3: of that, the fact that he's had a history of injuries.

1283
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 3: It's just it's it's a recipe for disaster.

1284
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:38,839
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep. Now, but it's interesting in how teams

1285
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: get built. Right, So right like you look at Indiana obviously,

1286
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: okay sees the crown jewel. I mean, you're still in

1287
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 2: the in the best possible situation. You got a million picks.

1288
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: You're as deep as they come. You look, you know,

1289
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: I mean that's one of wanted how you built the

1290
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 2: idea of And this is what you know I was

1291
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 2: talking about this week because Darryl Morey spoke for the

1292
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 2: first time. I mean, all they were was star hunting,

1293
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 2: star hunting, star hunting. We're getting stars. I got news

1294
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: for you. This era of ball you're better off building

1295
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 2: it correctly.

1296
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 3: And these new I brought up the first and second

1297
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 3: luxury tax aprons, which is very punitive. If you're over

1298
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 3: a certain threashold for a certain amount of time, you're

1299
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 3: just not gonna be able to build around two and

1300
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 3: three stars anymore.

1301
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 2: You can't sustain that.

1302
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to build through the draft, get minimum

1303
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: salary guys, mid level guys, cultivate them, shift those guys

1304
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 3: out for somebody else new. That's kind of the new

1305
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 3: era of the NBA. You cannot have a roster where

1306
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: you're paying three guys sixty million dollars each is just

1307
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 3: not gonna be financially feasible. You're gonna end up kill

1308
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 3: yourself by not having the ability to make trades, by

1309
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 3: not being able to by having draft picks taken away.

1310
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: So it's really I'm really interested to see how the

1311
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 3: NBA revolutionizes itself over this next five to eight year

1312
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 3: stretch with these new rules in place, Like, how does

1313
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 3: the hou's Oklahoma city going to sustain this? Because yeh,

1314
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 3: Shay Iss coming up in a couple of years on

1315
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 3: free agency where he's going to be able to make

1316
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 3: fifty plus million dollars. Jalen Williams is on his rookie

1317
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 3: deal next year, he's going to be a free agent.

1318
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 3: He's going to command over thirty million dollars. You still

1319
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 3: have harden Stett, You have all these guys making all

1320
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 3: this money. You're not going to be able to keep everybody.

1321
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 3: People are talking about this with Boston, like Boston at

1322
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 3: some point this offseason, probably to avoid the second luxury

1323
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 3: at tax, Apron is going to have to end up

1324
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 3: getting rid of somebody, whether it's Drew Holladay, Derek White, someone.

1325
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 3: You're just not going to be able to have all

1326
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 3: these high salary guys on your roster for six seven

1327
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 3: years anymore. It's a different landscape in the NBA.

1328
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yeah it is. I mean, look, you know,

1329
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 2: but looking in the add of that that play, I

1330
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 2: mean you have hal Burton and company. I think the

1331
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: new model is going to be more like one star

1332
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 2: correct and really good players around them. Yep.

1333
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, one guy's making sixty, you have a three or

1334
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: four guys making twenty five. You know, a couple of

1335
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 3: guys making fourteen. That's kind of like the model that's

1336
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 3: going to be.

1337
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 2: The model that's Indiana. You know, that's okay, see right now,

1338
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: right now?

1339
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 3: Right well, even Cleveland, you know a lot of their

1340
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 3: impact players, say for Donovan, Donovan Mitchell are on rookie

1341
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 3: scale deals, are their second contracts, right, So those guys

1342
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 3: haven't gotten into a position where they can really get

1343
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 3: paid yet.

1344
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: But I mean it's almost like the rookie quarterback. It's

1345
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: exactly what that is, you know. Yes, yeah, you guys,

1346
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: that's your win, that's your opportunity to win, to win.

1347
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 2: Next hour, by the way, oh all football, Oh the

1348
01:12:55,680 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 2: football hour. Yes, it's the witch hour, it's the full hour.

1349
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 2: You know. The schedule comes out Wednesday.

1350
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I think they're gonna tease us with the international

1351
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 3: schedule on Tuesday.

1352
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 2: And then I got a couple of games if you

1353
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: want them, you yeah, well look at you well you

1354
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 2: know they're guests.

1355
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 3: Inside information.

1356
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 2: He was like, all right, I think an educated guests.

1357
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 2: All right, all right, we'll we'll have some fun with it.

1358
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: Win totals for a chance to kind of dissect where

1359
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 2: everybody's at the big Cowboys trade. Yes, like, I can't wait.

1360
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: There's a lot to talk about.

1361
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 3: All right, finally did something.

1362
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 2: Huh. I mean that's a big move. It is. It's

1363
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 2: a big move. CD Lamb and George Pickings together. I

1364
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: still think they needed better or that they needed more

1365
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 2: of a running running back. But we'll talk about where

1366
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: the fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio. Fellas don't

1367
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 2: forget for the best pregame show every weekend. Be sure

1368
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: to tune into Fox Sports Radio's Countdown presented by BETMGM

1369
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: every Saturday Sunday morning nine am to noon Eastern six am.

1370
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: It's nine Pacific will count you down to all the

1371
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: biggest games of the day. Tune in the Countdown presented

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01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: by BETMGM every Saturday and Sunday morning, right here on

1373
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. So fake. We

1374
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: got one of our fine listeners and my man, Eddie Webster,

1375
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: and Eddie goes the NBA playoffs. It just goes on

1376
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: too long. It's drawn out. And my response is, I

1377
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 2: hear you, but I like it. I think it's great theater.

1378
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: Now it completely devalues the regular season, and I get that,

1379
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: and it kills the regular seasons momentum, and I'm with you,

1380
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 2: I get it, but I enjoy these playoffs. I love

1381
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: the hockey. NBA playoffs seasons are awesome. Like I go

1382
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: back and forth. We had baseball last night, we had

1383
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 2: a we just started our weekend tournaments. At a game.

1384
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: I come back, I catch the end, the Indiana and

1385
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: the Cleveland and the end and the overtime between Florida

1386
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 2: and Toronto, and then I'm in on the Talla Buck

1387
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 2: who was unbelievable last night, and uh and then I

1388
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 2: was and I'm all in on Denver o KC.

1389
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: So it was.

1390
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just great theater. I mean, I don't know,

1391
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: I enjoy I love the playoffs like I love it too.

1392
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 3: I will say, like, there are certain years where you know,

1393
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 3: you have your haves and your have nots, and there's

1394
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 3: a lot of blowouts. You haven't really had a lot

1395
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 3: of that this year in the NBA postseason, which makes

1396
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 3: it a lot more exciting. So I do think it

1397
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 3: kind of ebbs and flows. You'll have years where you know,

1398
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 3: there's a bunch series that are three to one or

1399
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 3: that are sweeps. You didn't really have a whole lot

1400
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 3: of that this year, which I think makes it a

1401
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 3: lot more compelling and a lot more entertaining to watch.

1402
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 3: And then the upset factor. You know, few people saw

1403
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 3: Minnesota upsetting the Lakers. Few people, nobody, say a few people.

1404
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 3: Nobody saw the Knicks being up to nothing on the

1405
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 3: Boston Celtics.

1406
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 2: In Boston win Boston games.

1407
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people thought that, you know, Denver, Yeah,

1408
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 3: they beat the Clippers in seven games, and that was cool.

1409
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 3: A lot of people felt that Oklahoma City was probably

1410
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,759
Speaker 3: gonna run Denver off the floor, and that hasn't happened

1411
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 3: save for one game.

1412
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: So I'm with you. Does it go on a little

1413
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: longer than maybe it needs to? I don't know.

1414
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a lot of times there's two three days

1415
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 3: off in between games that maybe isn't necessary, but they

1416
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 3: do that for TV purposes, so I understand why they

1417
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 3: do it. They don't want too many games happening. Concurrently,

1418
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 3: I don't mind it at all. I think as long

1419
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 3: as the product is entertaining and we're getting good games,

1420
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 3: which we have been, why would you want less of it?

1421
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 3: Why would you want less of quality basketball and entertaining basketball.

1422
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 2: Give me more? Yeah, And I'm like, I get any point,

1423
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 2: you know, but what's the rush? What are you doing?

1424
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: What else? I mean? I mean you look at it

1425
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 2: and you go, all right, what you know? It's great basket.

1426
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: It's the most competitive basketball. Like you wait, let me,

1427
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 2: let's be real. The regular season just takes There's too

1428
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 2: many bad teams, there's too many times guys don't play right.

1429
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: It just is what it is.

1430
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you finally get to the good stuff.

1431
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 2: I don't want to fancet forward. I want to enjoy it. Yes,

1432
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 2: I want to. I think baseball can learn a little

1433
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 2: bit about it because the regular season is way too long,

1434
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 2: there's way too much fluff, and then you try to

1435
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 2: rush through the playoffs when that's the best, that's your

1436
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:53,799
Speaker 2: best that's your best product is the playoffs.

1437
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 3: Right Well, Baseball's issue is it was never constructed to

1438
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 3: have fourteen playoff teams in the field or whatever it

1439
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: was initially constructed. Basically, well, first of it was interially

1440
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 3: constructed to have two whoever had the best record. Neither

1441
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 3: of the league made it to the World Series. Then

1442
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 3: they paired it down to the LCS, and it just

1443
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 3: kind of trickled down even more. That's why you played

1444
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty two games back in the day

1445
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 3: and gave you enough regular season games to separate who

1446
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 3: the best teams were. The problem is now that you

1447
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 3: have an ex expanded postseason field, you don't need one

1448
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,839
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty two games. It's it's not necessary anymore.

1449
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,560
Speaker 3: Right so when baseball they won't they won't do it.

1450
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 3: They're gonna keep doing what they've been doing. Either retract

1451
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 3: the regular season schedule and keep the playoffs where they are,

1452
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 3: or retract the postseason and leave the regular season where

1453
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 3: it is. They're not gonna do either of it at

1454
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 3: this point, but you're gonna have a lot of you know,

1455
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 3: empty stadiums in Seattle in July, you know, and you

1456
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 3: just continue to have to deal with that.

1457
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I think we've reached a point where

1458
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 2: it's like, what are you trying to preserve? Right? The numbers?

1459
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about numbers anymore.

1460
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 3: Well in baseball, I think people care about certain numbers.

1461
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 2: No, I mean records. I mean those kinds of numbers.

1462
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 2: I just think it's all excuse when you're you can't

1463
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 2: compare errors anymore. So all that stuff, of these of

1464
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: these historical records, and that's that's the only reason why

1465
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: you're clinging to it. We'll discuss it where the fella

1466
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,480
Speaker 2: is right here, hanging out Fox Sports Radio.

1467
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: Listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1468
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, good morning, of morning, Happy Mother's Day, weekend.

1469
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: Fell It's Kevin Figures. Anthony Gargan will come to you

1470
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios on this Saturday morning.

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01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 2: All right, fig real quick, and then and then I

1472
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: want to make this our football hour. Okay, but since

1473
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: we were talking about this the end of the last segment,

1474
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 2: I kind of want to just dive into it real quick.

1475
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 2: So we're talking about one of our great listeners was

1476
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 2: talking about how the playoffs drive on you, and I

1477
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 2: contend that it's great theater and it's this is the word.

1478
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:08,440
Speaker 2: The sport is at its best. They they play defense.

1479
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: Guys are playing you know, you see it overtime, right,

1480
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: Guys are playing forty five minutes. Right, So you're it's

1481
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: the best of the sport. It's the best players that

1482
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: are playing. They're playing hard, like this is good stuff.

1483
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 3: Right, You want more of this, not less of it.

1484
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 2: Right. So you look at baseball and you correctly, you know,

1485
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: assessed the issue. Baseball originally was built to play one

1486
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: sixty two or one four. When they did they did

1487
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 2: it right. You You had no playoffs. You had the

1488
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: winner of the American League play the winner of the

1489
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 2: National League, and that was your World Series. And then

1490
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: it became you played the league championship series, and then

1491
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 2: you played the World Series, and then came three divisions

1492
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 2: and wild calls, and so you have this expanded layer

1493
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: of playoffs now, but you're still playing one sixty two.

1494
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: So the effect is you play a long season and

1495
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 2: you rush through the best part of it because baseball

1496
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: is the greatest in the playoffs, it's timeless, it's you know,

1497
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 2: pitch by pitch, you're you're on edge. It's got all

1498
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: the drama, and so why not why continue with the

1499
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: nonsense and go all right, Either we're gonna go back

1500
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: to where it was the past, which I just don't

1501
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 2: think is viable. They won't do it.

1502
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 3: I kind of wish that kind of part of me

1503
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 3: wish as they would, but they're not going to go

1504
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 3: back to just maybe an LCS system. Top two teams

1505
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 3: in each league make it to the LCS. Because I

1506
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: always put more emphasis you can't say the record season

1507
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Is all that matters, because your regular season

1508
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: record determines whether or not you make it into You

1509
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 3: have a chance to win.

1510
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: The World Series without a doubt. The issue, though, is

1511
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: for teams that are out of it, Yeah, you're dead,

1512
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 2: and we know that in America in twenty twenty five.

1513
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 2: If you tease out of it with you know, half

1514
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: the season left or third of his season left, nobody goes.

1515
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 2: Nobody cares. Correct, We're just all about it's championship, war's draft, right, right,

1516
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 2: that's what we are about.

1517
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 3: And you're selling hope. So by expanding the postseason what

1518
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 3: they did a couple of years ago, gives more teams

1519
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 3: the opportunity to have hope to make it. Because baseball,

1520
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 3: unlike any other sport, maybe in some of years hockey,

1521
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,560
Speaker 3: just getting in oftentimes is good enough. You get in,

1522
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 3: you ride a hot pitcher or two, you can make

1523
01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 3: a deeper run regardless of where you're slotted.

1524
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: That's right, So why not shorten the regular season, dramatically

1525
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 2: open up the playoffs even more, have a tier, let

1526
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 2: it breathe so pitching, so you could actually use your

1527
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 2: pitching and not rush through pitching and make the playoffs

1528
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: in August or September, in October, right, you'd start it

1529
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: in in uh some time in August, and then you

1530
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 2: got two and a half months of playoffs.

1531
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 3: So if you're expanding the postseason, I believe as of

1532
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 3: now was it in fourteen teams making the postseason as

1533
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:43,919
Speaker 3: it right, so more teams would make the playoffs.

1534
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,560
Speaker 2: In this scenario where you would certainly you would do

1535
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: you would follow the NBA NHL route, which is all

1536
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 2: seven game series, okay, which I like, and you would

1537
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 2: go eight teams and eight teams I don't like. The

1538
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 2: only thing I don't like the NBA, I think the

1539
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 2: play in stupid. Yeah, I understand why they do it though. Two.

1540
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 3: It adds an extra element of drama to the end

1541
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 3: of the regular season, keeps teams alive to a certain

1542
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 3: degree distance and advises tanking, not all the way, but

1543
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 3: to a certain degree. And you talk about teams that

1544
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 3: you know, fan bases and teams being apathetic towards the

1545
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 3: end of the season where they have nothing to play for,

1546
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,719
Speaker 3: or if you're a nine or a ten seed, whereas

1547
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 3: in years past you're playing out the string, you do

1548
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 3: have something to play for. So it it adds more

1549
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 3: meaningful quote unquote meaningful games to the end of the

1550
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: regular season for teams that otherwise will be playing out

1551
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 3: the string.

1552
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: Right. But the only thing I would contend is who

1553
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: cares about getting in? Is an eight seed? You're not?

1554
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: You're not. You're not getting me with that.

1555
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's been a couple of occasions that

1556
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 3: I can think of where an eight seed is the

1557
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: Knicks way back when they've lost to the Spurs in

1558
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 3: the finals well ninety nine, right, and then the Miami

1559
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 3: Heat and the bubble against the Lakers. I believe we're

1560
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 3: in eight.

1561
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,799
Speaker 2: Seed, right, But you're talking about slop of the slop

1562
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 2: teams that you're trying to give hope to, right, because

1563
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: it's not just the eighth seed, it's nine, ten, eleven, twelve, right, correct.

1564
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the more likely resort, more oft than that,

1565
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 3: it's going to be what happened to Miami in the

1566
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 3: first round this year, who you just get run off

1567
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 3: of the floor in every single game, right, So it's

1568
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 3: basically just, you know, a walkover series for the one seed.

1569
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 2: So ultimately, if you get back to the NBA NHL

1570
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 2: model and baseball did that, you would have you know,

1571
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 2: you start the you start the playoffs in the middle

1572
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: of August. Now look at the sprint you have from

1573
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 2: April or end of March to middle of August.

1574
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 3: You're right, So theoretically, I'm with you one thousand percent. Practically,

1575
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 3: how do we do this and have the franchises not

1576
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 3: lose revenue? Because if you're reducing the regular season, I

1577
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 3: don't know how much you're reducing it by if you're

1578
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 3: going from one sixty two to one thirty or one twenty.

1579
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: Or so, what are you gonna lop off? So if

1580
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna, if you're gonna, really would have to be

1581
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 2: one twenty two, So you lop off forty games, twenty homes,

1582
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 2: twenty home games. That's a game, make that up and

1583
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 2: a TV revenue and by adding a whole other tier

1584
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: of playoffs. I don't know that well.

1585
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 3: It's also because it's a part of the revenue sharings

1586
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 3: model too with the with Major League Baseball, which is

1587
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 3: not as robust as it is in the NFL or

1588
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,799
Speaker 3: even the NBA to a certain degree. So you get revenue,

1589
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 3: but you don't get as much as the other pro

1590
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 3: sports leagues do from their postseason packages. So I don't

1591
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 3: know the exact numbers of what the math would be

1592
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 3: on that, anthony. If it's like, if you lopped off

1593
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 3: twenty games, twenty home games could have be made up.

1594
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: No, you're no, you're right about the rev share.

1595
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 3: In REP share, I don't.

1596
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 2: I don't think it would be right.

1597
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 3: So that would be that that would be the toughest,

1598
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 3: the toughest sales. I don't think the owners would necessarily

1599
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 3: mind having fewer games if you can give them a

1600
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 3: guarantee that they will be able to make up that

1601
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 3: revenue somehow. I just don't know if there's a practical

1602
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 3: way to do that.

1603
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it would have to be you'd have

1604
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 2: to you'd have to tweak your share model, your rev share. Yeah,

1605
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 2: because the play like I mean, I would think, I mean,

1606
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 2: you look at now their national deal is is is

1607
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:38,759
Speaker 2: not great?

1608
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 3: No, I think every team gets like I have to

1609
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 3: look at it, but there's like a one hundred million

1610
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 3: dollars or something like that. I don't I figure exactly

1611
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 3: what the exact number is with the rev share. It's

1612
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 3: nowhere close to where other pro sports leagues are.

1613
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 2: I mean, and now and now, if you had two

1614
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 2: months of playoffs, I don't know, you know you have

1615
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 2: September in October as playoff months. I mean I think

1616
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: first of all, now it goes into November. That's way

1617
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 2: too long, yeah, right, I mean.

1618
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 3: It used to end like before the Halloween and now

1619
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 3: we're getting into early November.

1620
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: To your point, right, Like, so if you're if you're playoffs,

1621
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,560
Speaker 2: you know, you begin play and then you could begin playoffs,

1622
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 2: you know, Labor Day weekend, and there's little things you

1623
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: could do around calendars to make things special, right.

1624
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 3: I just looked it up, by the way, So it

1625
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 3: says teams that do receive revenue sharing is to range

1626
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 3: between fifty and one hundred million dollars per season, which,

1627
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 3: again in comparison to the National Football League.

1628
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 2: Is nothing. It's not a whole lot. No.

1629
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 3: Well, I mean to you and I obviously and everybody

1630
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 3: else listening, yes, but to these billionaire owners, that's a

1631
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:55,839
Speaker 3: drop in the bucket.

1632
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 6: I asked teams that don't have one hundred million dollar payrolls. Yeah,

1633
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 6: it's it's I mean, it's amazing. Like Pittsburgh files just manager, like,

1634
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 6: what do you for? What series?

1635
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: You know?

1636
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 3: Like that he's supposed to do. It makes it sport

1637
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 3: to me whatsoever.

1638
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I just don't know how

1639
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: it exists. Like I mean, the league. I love the sport,

1640
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 2: but MLB because of the inequity, I just don't. I

1641
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 2: don't understand how for all this law, all this time,

1642
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 2: I just never understood why they didn't follow the NFL model. Well,

1643
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 2: the players Association has to agree to that, and they won't. No,

1644
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: I know, but at what point throughout the year, like

1645
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 2: this is this is the age old problem, right, Like

1646
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 2: this goes back to the strike strikes of the eighties,

1647
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 2: Like they couldn't institute that at some point in the

1648
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 2: last fifty years, forty years.

1649
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's also in the sport, there's an

1650
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 3: element of personal responsibility that goes in this too. I

1651
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 3: mean there are certain teams obviously that make more money

1652
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 3: than others, right, so there's also small market teams that

1653
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 3: find ways to compete on a year in, year out basis,

1654
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 3: even though they're working at it, decided to disadvantage to

1655
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 3: other teams too. So I don't want to use that

1656
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: as an excuse for teams like Pittsburgh or Colorado or

1657
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 3: Miami for not finding ways to be able to compete

1658
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 3: when teams like Tampa Bay have been able to do

1659
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 3: it for the past twenty years, or Minnesota every three

1660
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 3: or four years find their you know, you know, are

1661
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 3: competitive and find a way to float around the top

1662
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:36,600
Speaker 3: of their division in the.

1663
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 2: Central you can do it Cleveland.

1664
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 3: Cleveland's good almost every single year and have no money

1665
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 3: and sell guys off all the time.

1666
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,879
Speaker 2: Right. But the problem is is that for the fans

1667
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: of those teams. You lose players, you lose momentum, and

1668
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 2: you're right in that they compete, but there's always a

1669
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 2: threshold to how far they can go generally.

1670
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, I would say that's true. Yeah,

1671
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 3: but there's no one stopping the owners from spending more.

1672
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 2: No, you're a hundred percent right. But the NFL battles

1673
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 2: just so perfect, like the even playing field, the idea

1674
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:25,560
Speaker 2: that teams go up and down. It's just it's my

1675
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 2: bothering to me that you can't replicate that in sub

1676
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 2: Way when you have all these all these teams across

1677
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 2: the country. Like, I don't know what it's like if

1678
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 2: you're a Pirates fan. I do know in Colorado. I

1679
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 2: got friends of mine in Denver, Like the Rockies don't

1680
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 2: even exist, right, right, You have too many teams like

1681
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 2: that that don't exist.

1682
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 3: So is that and maybe it's maybe it's a double

1683
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 3: edged sworder, it's it's multiple reasons about I was gonna say,

1684
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 3: is that the major League Baseball is issue? Or was

1685
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 3: that the issue with Rockies ownership or was it.

1686
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 2: Boat Yeah, I think it's a baseball issue one, and

1687
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:09,560
Speaker 2: then it goes down to Rockies ownership, because at some

1688
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 2: point you're operating a business, right, so at some point

1689
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:17,839
Speaker 2: you're not generating enough revenue to support your payroll.

1690
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 3: But when have you even ever tried to even press

1691
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 3: the limit of what you can do with your payroll

1692
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 3: before selling things off, you know, selling out arenas and

1693
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:28,839
Speaker 3: getting sponsored.

1694
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you're never going to be able to measure

1695
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 2: up to l A the I mean the Rockies. For

1696
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 2: the Rockies tried.

1697
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 3: I mean they had Helton and the holiday they had,

1698
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 3: they had a they had a run, I would say,

1699
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 3: but they never tried. They never sustained anything.

1700
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:50,799
Speaker 2: Two thousands that that two thousands run like oh.

1701
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 3: Six or seven I think it was. Yeah, they made

1702
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:55,719
Speaker 3: it all into the World Series against Boston.

1703
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I you know, again, whereas the NFL, Oh

1704
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 2: you have Detroit, you have Green Bay, right, you have Minnesota,

1705
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 2: you have Chicago in that division and they all ye know,

1706
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:14,759
Speaker 2: they're all even footing.

1707
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's more cyclical. It's rare that you have

1708
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 3: in the NFL. And also ran that's terrible for fifteen

1709
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 3: straight years. You don't see that in the NFL. Doesn't

1710
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 3: have it doesn't really exist.

1711
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 2: Except the Jets, and they're in the biggest market.

1712
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 3: I mean, well, okay, in some senses, yes, but even

1713
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:36,640
Speaker 3: the I mean the Jets. You're right, now, you're right,

1714
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 3: but I'm just but to your point, even a team

1715
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 3: that like the Jets, who gets, you know, crapped on

1716
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 3: all the time, or the Browns given the Browns over

1717
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 3: the past fifteen years have had decent teams that have

1718
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 3: made the postseason, that win nine, ten, eleven games here

1719
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 3: and there. You don't just enter into a season automatically

1720
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 3: knowing that, like the Pittsburgh Pirates, you have no chance

1721
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 3: to compete whatsoever on a year in year.

1722
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,560
Speaker 2: Our basis right, So I'll give you that right like

1723
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 2: you could like the A's. I mean, you're playing in

1724
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 2: a minor league ballpark for numerous years until the stadium

1725
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 2: is like it's just it's sanity. I don't know. I

1726
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 2: don't know how you run a real franchise. I don't

1727
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 2: know how you run a sport a professional in this era,

1728
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 2: how you run that without being a farce? And I

1729
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 2: love baseball, love I love it right like I love

1730
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 2: those the four team sports. I just let do her.

1731
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 2: I find my own joy in each of them. And

1732
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,919
Speaker 2: you're like kids of mine, like obviously football is my favorite,

1733
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 2: but you know, the other ones are all tied for two.

1734
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:42,600
Speaker 3: You know, right, Well, here's what you're gonna have to

1735
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 3: do if you really want to make a change, And

1736
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 3: it's a scorched earth method. And it has been talked

1737
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 3: about Ken Rosethal and Evandralic of the Athletic I've written

1738
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 3: about this the last couple of years. As far as

1739
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 3: the the CBA coming up at the end of next season,

1740
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 3: the owners might lock the players out and force their hand.

1741
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we lock you out. We are not coming back to.

1742
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 3: The negotiating table until you give us a salary cap

1743
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 3: right now.

1744
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 2: Will they do that?

1745
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 3: I would doubt it, but that's kind of the only

1746
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 3: way that's gonna happen. Yeah, because the player the Major

1747
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 3: League Baseball Players Association is the strongest union in all

1748
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 3: of professional sports and has been for a long period

1749
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 3: of time, yep. And they have not been willing to

1750
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 3: budge on that to your point, going back to the

1751
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 3: split season in eighty one or however ninety four, all

1752
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 3: those lockouts, all those strikes. One of the big sticky

1753
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 3: points this has been a salary cap. And this entire time,

1754
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 3: the Players Association has said no, So it's gonna take

1755
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 3: it's gonna take it upon the owners to say we're

1756
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 3: not doing this anymore. We get a cap or we

1757
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 3: ain't playing.

1758
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 2: That's why I know, that's why there's only one NFL baby. Yeah, absolutely,

1759
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 2: And like I can't really like the we're gonna talk

1760
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 2: about this with the schedule coming up and we'll try

1761
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 2: and giving the team my team win totals and everything else.

1762
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 2: But you know it's nuts. Is it's so perfect. It's

1763
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 2: it's manifest destiny. Like the NFL take it over the world. Yeah, right,

1764
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,759
Speaker 2: Like like look at how they incorporate, Like we're gonna

1765
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 2: be in the drid right this year. We're all the internationals,

1766
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:28,440
Speaker 2: Like we're arcing towards the eighteen game schedule where everybody

1767
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 2: will be forced to play an international game. Like it's

1768
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 2: all system. It's run brilliantly. Yeah.

1769
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 3: They're in a unique position that they have a scarce

1770
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 3: product because you only have you know, seventeen games soon

1771
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 3: to be eighteen games that you can market. You have

1772
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 3: a very small win to of time that you actually play,

1773
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,839
Speaker 3: which allows people to pay a premium for your product,

1774
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 3: which adds a sense of urgency to your product and

1775
01:36:57,479 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 3: which we thought. That's why their revenue share is so

1776
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 3: big and their TV contracts are so humongous because there's

1777
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 3: so few pieces of the pie. All these networks are

1778
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 3: willing to pay out of their tails to make sure

1779
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 3: they get a little slice of it. Major League Baseball,

1780
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 3: there's too many games for that. It's not it's not

1781
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 3: a premium product. There's too much of it, right, right,

1782
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 3: If they can get like that, make that sort of money, Anthony,

1783
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 3: this wouldn't be a problem, right, be a problem at all.

1784
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 2: No, you're you're you're spot on. But you know what's

1785
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 2: amazing with the league right in the NFL, they just

1786
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 2: make the right decision though, well, they make the decision

1787
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 2: to see how they can get more money in their pocket,

1788
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 2: which correct, But it works it all. It's it also

1789
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 2: is an oddity where I think it works with the fan, like, yeah,

1790
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 2: the TV drives everything, correct, but we want to watch

1791
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, I want to watch it, right. I'm

1792
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 2: glad they took over Christmas. Yeah, I've been listen. I

1793
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:59,560
Speaker 2: love Christmas and the family and everything else, but I

1794
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 2: don't know. I love sports on during holidays. I just do.

1795
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 2: I just I love sports, and to me it's it

1796
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 2: as family and people are together and you know, you

1797
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 2: get the game on and the degrees of paying attention.

1798
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 3: Let's at your home team or whatever. It's kind of

1799
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 3: the background, but it's a good background thing to happen.

1800
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 2: It's good, you know what I mean. Like you mixed

1801
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 2: that with a with a movie, and it's all like

1802
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 2: it's all part of the it's all part of the celebration.

1803
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, right, but I like. I like the

1804
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 2: way the schedule is all kind of done out and

1805
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 2: it's a part of it. It's also part of how

1806
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 2: we connect.

1807
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 4: Like we.

1808
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 2: Football, we go out and we watch it and we're together.

1809
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 2: It's excuse to do things together.

1810
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely, even if you're not going to the stadium. You

1811
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 3: meet your friends up at a bar, or ye come

1812
01:38:58,360 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 3: to each other's house.

1813
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 2: Like I look at it more from its stimulis it's

1814
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 2: a stimulus for the masses in a good way. It

1815
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 2: brings us together.

1816
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 3: It does because I'll use my wife as an example.

1817
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 3: She doesn't have a team, but she has a fantasy

1818
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 3: team and she's a fan of that. So we I

1819
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 3: can watch any generic game and she'll be interested because

1820
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 3: she has a player either on that team or against

1821
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 3: our team. And it's the way to bring us together,

1822
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 3: even though we don't have necessarily a common interest in

1823
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 3: the particular game that we're watching.

1824
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's just it's a it's a good healthy

1825
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 2: hat hat like a hobby like right like, And that's

1826
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 2: a and and it has a profound effect in bringing

1827
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 2: the mass. I would say sports builds churches. And it

1828
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,799
Speaker 2: does because it's a church. It's a gathering of souls

1829
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 2: right well together for common common calls. Yeah, and and

1830
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 2: here we are what And I don't care what anybody

1831
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 2: says when teams are going well, there's a lot of

1832
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 2: love in the air, all right, crime, I haven't. I

1833
01:39:56,080 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 2: have the status of Philadelphia. Crime dissipates when when the

1834
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 2: teams are good. So it's not surprising me, you know.

1835
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's take quick to you and dived dude

1836
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 2: football right here, fellas, Fox Sports Radio.

1837
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,240
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1838
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,639
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1839
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:25,840
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1840
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:26,639
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1841
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 2: All right, fellas, Good morning, Mother's Day weekend. How's the

1842
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,839
Speaker 2: baby fake? He's doing amazing?

1843
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 3: Uh, he's getting ever so closer to walking here pulling

1844
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 3: himself up doing a little bit of a side step,

1845
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 3: can hold himself far for about a quarter of a

1846
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 3: second on his own before tumbling back down. But he's active,

1847
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 3: these kids on the move. It's the fastest crawler I've

1848
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 3: ever seen in my life. Is ridiculous.

1849
01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 2: Ah, look at that dude. Income be that great got back.

1850
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 3: You know what he's got some lyngth to him though.

1851
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 2: That's the problem.

1852
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 3: He's he's in the ninety seven percent island height for

1853
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 3: his four so he clearly does not get that from me.

1854
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 3: He gets that from his uh, from my brothers in law,

1855
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 3: my father in law, they're all one of my brother

1856
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 3: in law sixty five one is six fall, my father

1857
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 3: in law is six three, So.

1858
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: He gets all that from them. That's a big fig

1859
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 2: that's big. That's right.

1860
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 3: So so now there's an internal battle between my my

1861
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 3: wife and I as to whether or not he's gonna

1862
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 3: play volleyball or basketball. And then my mother in law

1863
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 3: is like, they could do both. So you know, we'll

1864
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 3: figure out how that how that ends up playing itself out.

1865
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 2: I know what he's gonna fight, man, He's gonna be

1866
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 2: a shooting guards gonna via six five two training threes

1867
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 2: two way could could could lock it down defensively, I

1868
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 2: could totally see it. Either that or he may be

1869
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 2: a receiver, because.

1870
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's even more of enough about playing football.

1871
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 2: So listen, I'm going to tell you right, and this

1872
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 2: is all due respect to the beautiful ladies out there,

1873
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 2: and we wish you happy Mother's Day, all right, like

1874
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 2: we we and the ultimate respect. But fig don't back

1875
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 2: down on football. Oh I'm not.

1876
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 3: One thing I will say is I don't necessarily I

1877
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 3: agree that I don't want to necessarily playing tackle super

1878
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 3: super early on.

1879
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 2: So here's the misnomer. Can I just tell you that?

1880
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, listening.

1881
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 2: So they don't people think that that it's the NFL.

1882
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 2: They don't move that fast. The collisions aren't as violent

1883
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 2: the games I'm about to say, you don't get hurt,

1884
01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 2: all right, But it's not really what you think about

1885
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 2: playing at that age. It's not. And I'm a youth football.

1886
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 2: I'm a believer in it, and I'm gonna tell you

1887
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 2: why we have.

1888
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 3: Experience in it. You're in your hand, you've been you've

1889
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 3: been doing.

1890
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:20,719
Speaker 2: My Athony was I don't know he was fifth grade, whatever,

1891
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 2: eleven years old, ten eleven years old, and you know whatever,

1892
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 2: just to he had the round his shoulders. He was

1893
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 2: a little pown cheat right. The whole thing baseball. I

1894
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 2: had had him in baseball. He really wasn't a soccer player.

1895
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 2: Basketball he was. He wasn't a good basketball player. I

1896
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 2: mean he could play, but whatever. I'm like, oh, he's

1897
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 2: playing football in my life. No, no, no, he's not

1898
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 2: playing football. Not playing football for the football. He loved

1899
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 2: it right now. Again, you know, football is not fun

1900
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 2: in the summer, and you know, give camp is camp,

1901
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 2: and it's like that with you too. Practice everybody, you're

1902
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 2: learning the game. There's a lot to teach the kids.

1903
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 2: It's a commitment. By the end of the first season,

1904
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 2: I saw that boy go from round the shoulders to

1905
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 2: shoulders back chest out and when like adults say hey

1906
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,759
Speaker 2: do you play sports, and he'd say, I play football,

1907
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 2: And it gave him confidence. I saw from then on,

1908
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 2: I see, I saw a different boy. I saw a

1909
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 2: confident kid. And listen, yeah, you know you have to

1910
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 2: now he had size, all right, he had some size,

1911
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 2: not that he was overly large, but he was he

1912
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 2: was on the on the bigger side, So you know

1913
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 2: that's true. Yeah, I don't know. You know, you have

1914
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 2: to judge your own child comes to how big they are.

1915
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 4: But just.

1916
01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 2: My little one plays, I just think it does wonders

1917
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 2: for confidence they learn, they become. You know, I don't

1918
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 2: want to say tough and all that stuff, but there

1919
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 2: is a degree of that and you need that and

1920
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 2: boys need that stuff. I'm a believer in it.

1921
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 5: Man.

1922
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 2: Well, I think they they give that confidence. Man, It's

1923
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 2: it's huge for children. Yeah.

1924
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this too, like I'm a firm believer

1925
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 3: in exposing kids to as many things as possible. So

1926
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 3: I want him to play some semblants. I want him

1927
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 3: to play football. I want him to play soccer. I

1928
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 3: want him to play volleyball. I want to play so

1929
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 3: he can figure out what he enjoys and what he

1930
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 3: doesn't and we can further lean into the things that

1931
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 3: he excels at or the things that he enjoys. I

1932
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,799
Speaker 3: have no issues with him playing football. There are studies

1933
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 3: that show that even if they're they're they're hitting each

1934
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 3: other at a much slower pace and not as violently

1935
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 3: as adults. You're still hitting a developing brain at a

1936
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 3: young age. So I don't know if it's necessary for

1937
01:45:58,040 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 3: him to have for a child to have to play.

1938
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 2: Ever, to each their own.

1939
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:02,759
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm not telling anybody what they should

1940
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 3: or shouldn't do.

1941
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just giving you advice. I'm just

1942
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 2: giving you my own personal experience with youth football. And

1943
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 2: I mean I think it was about saying that if

1944
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 2: you do suffer concussion, then you better make sure that

1945
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:27,759
Speaker 2: he is completely healthy and keeled before you ever before

1946
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 2: you play another down, right, Like that's where you have.

1947
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 2: We had a great pediatrician the whole thing, you know,

1948
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 2: knock on wood, there was no concussions, right right, So

1949
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 2: but I hear you, and I'm not you know, like

1950
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 2: Willy Nilly with that. I'm just giving you a big

1951
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 2: picture itself.

1952
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 3: No, I agree, And I do think some of those

1953
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 3: same principles, you know, thoughts of you know, camaraderie and

1954
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 3: toughness and togetherness and having a shared purpose, you can

1955
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 3: certainly do that in other sports too. So I mean

1956
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 3: a lot of the same things that you can learn

1957
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 3: through football you can learn through playing basketball or playing baseball.

1958
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 3: And I know it's different, but it's also similar. It's

1959
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 3: still a team sport, playing together as a collective, having

1960
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 3: camaraderie with your your friends and other players. So all

1961
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:15,719
Speaker 3: that stuff can still be built through a different sport.

1962
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 2: I agree.

1963
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 3: So I got no issues with tackle football whatsoever. It's

1964
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,640
Speaker 3: just like for me, I think it's probably best of

1965
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 3: kids hold off for just a little bit and not

1966
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 3: play tackle football. That's you know, six seven, eight years old.

1967
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 2: That's just me though. Yeah, I got you, I got you.

1968
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 2: All right. Let's talk big football, big boys, all right,

1969
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 2: the big fellas. Let's talk international. Okay, So this is

1970
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 2: what it looks like so far, all right, and some

1971
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,639
Speaker 2: of the rumors and some of the stuff that we're

1972
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 2: hearing because the schedules comes out Wednesday and there's a

1973
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 2: huge international slate, right yep. So we're for the first

1974
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 2: time the NFL is going to be in Spain, Madrid,

1975
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 2: and it looks like it's going to be Miami against

1976
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 2: the Commanders or the Bengals in Madrid. Then it looks

1977
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 2: like the Steelers are in Ireland. Then it looks like

1978
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 2: you have we got we got the oh Kansas City

1979
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 2: in Brazil. Then you would have Cleveland, Minnesota in London.

1980
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:38,600
Speaker 2: We know that's the Jets Broncos and the Rams, Jaguars

1981
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:43,680
Speaker 2: would all be the lot in London games. That's all

1982
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:44,679
Speaker 2: been released.

1983
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 3: We know the Chargers are playing somebody, right and yeah,

1984
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 3: salth Paulo, we just don't know who.

1985
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,679
Speaker 2: We think it's Kansas City, Kansas City, you believe, Okay, Yeah,

1986
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 2: that it would be Chiefs Chargers in Brazil. That's big.

1987
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 3: Taking it to Vision and a division home game away

1988
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 3: from somebody.

1989
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they all have to. I mean

1990
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 2: that happened to the Eagles last year. Yeah, they the Packers.

1991
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's also it's it's an NFC matchup,

1992
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 3: but that's not a you know, that's Charger Chargers a West. No,

1993
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:19,600
Speaker 3: you're right, So that's that's that's if they're going to

1994
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 3: play an actual divisional matchup overseas, that's maybe it's been

1995
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 3: done before. There've been so many international games. I you know,

1996
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 3: I've forgotten. I'm sure I'm trying to think.

1997
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't.

1998
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 3: I feel like they tried to avoid doing that because

1999
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 3: those games are so.

2000
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 2: Now. Listen, if you're going to be in Madrid, several

2001
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 2: games in London, Brazil, Ireland, Germany right to Brown Germany,

2002
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 2: it's right, that's a lot of international games. How do

2003
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 2: you feel about it. I'm a little bit torn.

2004
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, in previous years we've talked

2005
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:00,600
Speaker 3: about this and I was kind kind of against it.

2006
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 3: I was like, you're taking home games away, you know,

2007
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 3: from players and from fans from you know, it's one

2008
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 3: less home game for the fans to be able to

2009
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 3: go out and see, you know, their favorite team. But

2010
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 3: the NFL just as a whole in a macro, as

2011
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 3: a business, it's one of the smartest things they can

2012
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 3: do because you're trying to grow the sport. So you're

2013
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 3: gonna have all these games kicking off at different times.

2014
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 3: People are gonna wait. People wake up out here at

2015
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 3: six o'clock in the morning to watch the London games.

2016
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter that the ratings are gonna be

2017
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 3: what the ratings are. So they're not worried about the

2018
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,879
Speaker 3: TV per se. They know people are gonna watch regardless

2019
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:34,799
Speaker 3: of when it's on. But they get the international markets

2020
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 3: involved when they previously haven't been, and garnering an international

2021
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 3: fan base is one of the smartest things that the

2022
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 3: NFL could have ever done. You're hitting Marcus that you've

2023
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 3: never hit before. Going to Madrid, going to South Aulo,

2024
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 3: Brazil place. You know, the NFL is becoming a bigger

2025
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 3: and bigger international sport and by actually putting the product

2026
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:58,640
Speaker 3: on the ground for these fans to be able to

2027
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 3: see and interact with is smart business. So while I

2028
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 3: hate it for the domestic fans, if I'm in the

2029
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 3: NFL front office, I would do it one hundred times

2030
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 3: over because it makes all the sense in the world.

2031
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 2: I like the idea too, that as a fan of football,

2032
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 2: that it's global, right, I like that. I know people

2033
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 2: don't care. Well, it's like the world it's kind of

2034
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 2: come here next year, right, Yes, they that's a big deal.

2035
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 2: It's like the World comes is gonna be coming to America,

2036
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 2: to USA two fifty, right, the whole thing. You know.

2037
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 2: I like the fact that that football is will be worldwide.

2038
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would not surprise me that within the next

2039
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 3: twenty five thirty years the NFL's plan is to start

2040
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 3: hosting Super Bowls in these cities in London and South

2041
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 3: Polo and to make pick enough global game where super

2042
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 3: Bowls will be played there. Wow, not next year, not

2043
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:58,720
Speaker 3: in ten years, I'm thinking much much further down the road.

2044
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,640
Speaker 3: But you're laying this, you're planting the seeds.

2045
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:02,720
Speaker 2: For that, right. I don't know that you need to

2046
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 2: do that, but I I hear they might. I really

2047
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 2: think they might. I could see. The only thing they

2048
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,560
Speaker 2: could see and I don't know how you do it

2049
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 2: is if you had an European division.

2050
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's in the pipeline too. They've talked about London potentially.

2051
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 2: Germany, Ireland, and then you just play they play within

2052
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,679
Speaker 2: each other, and then you would have to then you'd

2053
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 2: have to then have them because of the travel, they

2054
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:28,680
Speaker 2: have to come to the States and come here and

2055
01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 2: stay here exactly, you.

2056
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:32,720
Speaker 3: Play all your road games at once.

2057
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 2: I mean that would be a tough haul, but I

2058
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 2: don't know.

2059
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 3: Well, look there's a will, there's away and again yeah,

2060
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 3: if there's a way to get money out of it,

2061
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 3: they'll find a way to make it work.

2062
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, all right, let's turn our attention to the field,

2063
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 2: and uh, we'll start with the Cowboys and the big

2064
01:52:53,560 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 2: trade George Pickens and see d Land. What's that mean

2065
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 2: for Dallas. We'll talk about that coming up next. And

2066
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 2: you were bullsh for the Cowboys last year?

2067
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 1: Was a you.

2068
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, that's curiousy how you feel now with

2069
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 2: a Fellas hagging out on a Mother's Day weekend right

2070
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:29,840
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, Fellas, k fake

2071
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:37,520
Speaker 2: my man Figgie in for Fitzie. Because all right, Cowboys

2072
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 2: needed they needed a shot in the arm, right, they

2073
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 2: needed a playmaker. They needed to give that offense a jult.

2074
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, they they were more status quot

2075
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 2: last year, and I thought that offense needed Obviously, Dak

2076
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 2: gets hurt and that was the end of the season,

2077
01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 2: but they needed something. Now. I still think they need.

2078
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 2: That run game feels old to me and slow. But

2079
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:09,640
Speaker 2: they bring in George Pickens. I you know, I mean,

2080
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 2: I think that's that. I think that's that's a great

2081
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 2: jolt of a move. Now we know what happened at Pittsburgh.

2082
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 2: But in fairness to George Pickens, you know, I mean,

2083
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 2: it's hard to have no quarterback.

2084
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 3: When I was like, who's throwing you.

2085
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:24,720
Speaker 2: With the ball?

2086
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:25,360
Speaker 4: Right?

2087
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 3: Roshed up Russell Wilson and Justin Fields Sloaney, what are

2088
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 3: we doing?

2089
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 2: Right?

2090
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 3: So I think it's a great move for Dallas. You know,

2091
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 3: a CD, and they can it's a perfect compliment to CD.

2092
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 3: You can kind of take the top off in George

2093
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 3: doesn't get a lot of separation, but gets a lot

2094
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 3: of contested catches, which is great. He can be a

2095
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 3: possession guy, just opens up their offense a lot more.

2096
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 3: To your point, all they're missing is a running back.

2097
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 3: And I still it's still it was ridiculous to me

2098
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 3: that they didn't find some way to address that in

2099
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 3: the draft, considering how deep of a running back draft

2100
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 3: it was. That they clearly don't think that it's a

2101
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 3: major issue, and they think Miles Sanders and Javonte Williams,

2102
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 3: who can't stay hell healthy or the answer. I just

2103
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 3: don't see it. So that's still a major issue for me.

2104
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I you know, you take Jayden Blue

2105
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 2: from Texas and you know, but he was more of

2106
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 2: a complimentary back.

2107
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 3: Correct, He wasn't going to really move the needle a lot.

2108
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 2: Uh uh? And then Mahwa from Clemson. I don't know.

2109
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a lot there, right, And I'm

2110
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:25,760
Speaker 2: with you. Javonte he was never the shame after the knee.

2111
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 3: No, which is a shame because he was great before

2112
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 3: that injury.

2113
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 2: He was runner, you know, And Miles Sanders, I don't

2114
01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 2: I don't like Miles Sanders a little bit. But I'll

2115
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 2: ask you because you were really high on the Cowboys.

2116
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 2: Now I'll ask you because clearly the Eagles are the

2117
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 2: best team in the division and aren't going anywhere. This

2118
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 2: is true. But who although you've lost a little bit,

2119
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen, but not real Well, I'll go out.

2120
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you their defense is going to be nasty.

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01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 3: Well, they've just reloaded.

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01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 2: That's what they do. Yes, Uh is Dallas, We're Washington,

2123
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 2: the second best team in the NFC East.

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01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 3: Definitely Washington. Yeah, Because I mean, now you can say,

2125
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 3: and this happens a lot of times of players. You know, Daniels,

2126
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:30,120
Speaker 3: he's gonna have kind of a sophomore slump and regress

2127
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 3: a little bit, because that oftentimes will happen your first year.

2128
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 3: You come out on fire, the league figures you out

2129
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 3: a little bit, maybe you take a little bit of

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01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 3: a step back, and then you kind of go on

2131
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 3: from there. So we'll see. But just even from just

2132
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 3: a team standpoint, I like Washington much more than I

2133
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 3: like the Cowboys right now. It doesn't mean I don't

2134
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 3: think the Cowboys are good. The problem with them is

2135
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 3: you downgraded at head coach. How that's gonna end up

2136
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 3: affecting your offense.

2137
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't really know.

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01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 3: Yes, you brought in Pickens, which is gonna help, but

2139
01:56:56,680 --> 01:57:00,000
Speaker 3: you still can't run the ball. So I have issue

2140
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 3: is from not that McCarthy was, you know, some spectacular

2141
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame level coach, but you replaced him with

2142
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:08,880
Speaker 3: a guy who was on nobody's radar to be a

2143
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 3: head coach at the NFL level and has had his

2144
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 3: share of issues as an offensive coordinator pretty much at

2145
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 3: every stop he's been at, and now he has to

2146
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 3: run the entire operation. So I think the Cowboys actually,

2147
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 3: even even despite the fact they've gotten better from a

2148
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 3: talent standpoint with the trade for Pickens, I still think

2149
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 3: the coaching situation is a major downgrade for them.

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01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so I got Watching.

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01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 3: So even if we're just based on that, Anthony, I

2152
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 3: would say Washington. But I think Washington's roster too is

2153
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:38,919
Speaker 3: better than Dallas's.

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01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 2: Right now, Well, I like Washing today, Yes, me, I

2155
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 2: would say Washington. I think Watching is the truth, right,

2156
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:50,200
Speaker 2: Like they're just you know, first of all, I love Daniels.

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01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 3: Right, He's a local guy from out here, trust me.

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01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 3: Phenomenal play, great.

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Speaker 2: Kid, Yeah, he's just a what a player he is right,

2160
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 2: good head on his shoulders too. You know, he's like

2161
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:04,800
Speaker 2: a perfect quarterback you want, you know, and you go.

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01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 3: Out and you get you know, your offense was already

2163
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 3: really good last year with him. You go out and

2164
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 3: get Deebo Samuel who just you know, adds to it.

2165
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Speaker 3: Like they haven't gotten worse, they've gotten They've actually gotten

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01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 3: better this offseason.

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01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 2: Well you got Larmy Tounsel now left tackle, correct, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, look, you know I agree with you.

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01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 3: Thank for me to say that they'll push the Eagles

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Speaker 3: for the NFC East.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so, but you know, okay, I

2172
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 2: think the Eagles are where the Chiefs were. Oh really okay,

2173
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 2: all right then yeah, I think are a dynastic like

2174
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 2: they have a chance to be really they have a

2175
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 2: chance to win again. Now I'm curiously how Detroit comes back, right,

2176
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 2: But when I look at the NFC East Washington and

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Speaker 2: I know they beat the Eagles in one of the

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Speaker 2: games in the regular season, and we'll we'll get into

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Speaker 1: Paul comes down at Jamal Murray. He's got door to beat.

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Speaker 2: we how about that fig I love it?

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Speaker 3: You know, Jamal Murray. We talked about Jalen Brunson earlier

2201
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Speaker 3: in the show. How you know he's a really good player.

2202
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:44,080
Speaker 3: All star level, maybe not a superstar, but not afraid

2203
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:46,000
Speaker 3: of the moment, not afraid to take big shots.

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Speaker 2: Jamal Murray's kind of is not kind of. He's in

2205
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Speaker 2: that mold too, you know.

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Speaker 3: I remember him sinking a game winner against the Lakers

2207
02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 3: at the buzzer against over Anthony Davis last year or

2208
02:00:56,560 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. In the postseason, he even

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Speaker 3: as great as the joker is, and he's the best

2210
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 3: player in the NBA when he's healthy and he's on,

2211
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray is really the closer for that team, creating

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Speaker 3: a shot for himself and for others, and is not

2213
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Speaker 3: afraid to take the big shot. So I love Jamal

2214
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Speaker 3: Murray too. He's one of those guys where you know,

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Speaker 3: in the regular season he may be in, maybe out,

2216
02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:18,480
Speaker 3: may average nineteen twenty points a game, may not do

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Speaker 3: a whole lot on a night in, night out basis

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Speaker 3: from a superstar standpoint, but you need it most. He's

2219
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:25,880
Speaker 3: the guy that can really carry you in the postseason

2220
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Speaker 3: when you need big shots in big moments. So that's

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Speaker 3: something that shouldn't be lost either. How big an impact

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Speaker 3: he makes for that team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on a night when Jokicic goes, oh for ten

2224
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:40,400
Speaker 2: from three right, right, So he struggles and it was

2225
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Speaker 2: you know, Murray, and it was Gordon and it was Porter.

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Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, how about Gordon. My god,

2227
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Speaker 2: it's been incredible, easy clutch, big time Aaric Gordon.

2228
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Speaker 3: But it goes to like a larger conversation. And I

2229
02:01:57,880 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 3: think we talked about this a little bit with the

2230
02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 3: Celtics and Tatum and Brown are getting a lot of incoming,

2231
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 3: specifically Tatum for not playing and rightfully so, they're not

2232
02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 3: playing well and not shooting well as a team overall.

2233
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 3: But the star players get so much flack or so

2234
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:14,560
Speaker 3: much credit when the team wins or doesn't win.

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Speaker 5: You know.

2236
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Speaker 3: Lebron James talked about this on the podcast he does

2237
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:19,760
Speaker 3: with Steve Nash. I think it came out on Friday morning.

2238
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 3: He's like, there's, you know, a bunch of guys on

2239
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:24,480
Speaker 3: the floor. It's not just me as and Luca is

2240
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Speaker 3: what him talking about, is like, we have other players

2241
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Speaker 3: on the floor too. It's not just the stars. Like

2242
02:02:29,080 --> 02:02:32,040
Speaker 3: teams win and teams lose, it's not about the star players. Yes,

2243
02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:35,440
Speaker 3: they have a heavy hand in it, but Nicola Jokic, if.

2244
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 2: It was just on his shoulders.

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Speaker 3: They never would have lost by forty tonight or last

2246
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:42,440
Speaker 3: I should say, right, because they at their high level

2247
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:44,880
Speaker 3: role players step up and play well. You know, he

2248
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:46,960
Speaker 3: can have an off night and the team can still win.

2249
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:49,920
Speaker 3: So I think a lot of times I just I

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Speaker 3: hated so much that is such a zero sum, Like

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Speaker 3: Charles Barkley's not that great because he never won a championship.

2252
02:02:55,240 --> 02:02:57,560
Speaker 3: Well like, well, it was a great player. He just

2253
02:02:57,600 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 3: didn't have the right players around him to be able

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02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,320
Speaker 3: to win a championship during senior. That's not an indictment

2255
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Speaker 3: on him. It's not Dan Marino's fault that he didn't

2256
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:08,360
Speaker 3: win a championship, right, right, And I hate so much

2257
02:03:08,440 --> 02:03:11,040
Speaker 3: that players get so much flack for not winning and

2258
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 3: if it's some sort of narrative against them, you didn't win,

2259
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 3: therefore you weren't that great, And those are not necessarily

2260
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Speaker 3: one of the same.

2261
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Speaker 2: No, I'm with you, I'm i'm i'm, I'm I'm with you. Now,

2262
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Speaker 2: did Lebron? What was the tenor of that podcast?

2263
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Speaker 3: So I out in full disclosure, I've not heard all

2264
02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 3: of it, just a couple of snippets just kind of

2265
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 3: talking about like, yeah, you know, the Lakers lost to

2266
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 3: the Timberwolves. It was not Luca and Lebron lost to

2267
02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:45,560
Speaker 3: Julius Randall and Anthony Edwards. He also said that matchups

2268
02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 3: are a big you know, are a big you know,

2269
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 3: determining factor and who wins and who loses. In basketball,

2270
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,640
Speaker 3: you know, you can have two of the better individual players,

2271
02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:55,600
Speaker 3: but if if a team is built a certain way

2272
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:59,720
Speaker 3: to take away your strengths, you know that ultimately can

2273
02:03:59,840 --> 02:04:02,120
Speaker 3: end being the reason why you lose. And he said

2274
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Speaker 3: the timber Rules were just a bad matchup for the Lakers,

2275
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:07,000
Speaker 3: is you know, kind of how he justified it. So

2276
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 3: you can agree or disagree, because I will say a

2277
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Speaker 3: lot of pundents, including myself, I thought the Lakers would

2278
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:13,560
Speaker 3: win five games.

2279
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Speaker 2: So well, I agree with him in that it matchim

2280
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:21,080
Speaker 2: the way it turned out was not a great matchup

2281
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Speaker 2: for them.

2282
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the way things worked out, You're right, it was,

2283
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Speaker 3: I mean the way that it was supposed to shake out,

2284
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:29,760
Speaker 3: at least in my mind. I knew Minnesota was younger

2285
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:32,080
Speaker 3: and had better athletes, but I also know that their

2286
02:04:32,120 --> 02:04:34,240
Speaker 3: half court offense is a bit of a mess, and

2287
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:37,800
Speaker 3: the Lakers half court offense conceivably should be amazing when

2288
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:40,360
Speaker 3: you have guys like Austin Reeves, Lebron James, and Luka

2289
02:04:40,440 --> 02:04:44,000
Speaker 3: Doncik controlling the floor and especially in clutch situations. Yeah,

2290
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:46,800
Speaker 3: if it's you're in and I need a bucket situation

2291
02:04:47,320 --> 02:04:50,560
Speaker 3: down the stretch, I trusted the Lakers offense more than Minnesota.

2292
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Speaker 3: That didn't bear itself out. The Lakers lost every single

2293
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 3: fourth quarter in that series. So it just didn't work

2294
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:57,839
Speaker 3: out the way that people predicted.

2295
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:02,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the NFL and what

2296
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:06,800
Speaker 2: I want to do with you, because since the schedule

2297
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 2: comes out Wednesday, we'll have an even better idea of

2298
02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:15,840
Speaker 2: how the over under could play out. Because, look, there

2299
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:18,880
Speaker 2: are you know, I believe in the schedule, even though

2300
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:22,240
Speaker 2: you can't tell injuries and everything else when you're doing

2301
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:25,160
Speaker 2: the wsn l's type of thing. If you're going to

2302
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 2: make an investment on over or under win total, the

2303
02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:33,600
Speaker 2: schedule is a big piece of it because you know

2304
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 2: what comes after international games, three straight road games where

2305
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 2: things kind of go. I think that stuff matters.

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02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:43,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're a West Coast team playing against Cleveland

2307
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:46,880
Speaker 3: and December, you know that sort of stuff matters.

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02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:50,120
Speaker 2: So I want to switch it with you, and I

2309
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:53,640
Speaker 2: want to get more into some of the pointed questions

2310
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:59,960
Speaker 2: now that it's post draft, right and we kind of

2311
02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:03,840
Speaker 2: I have an idea now who the rosters are we

2312
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 2: kind of we we talked about the NFC East. I

2313
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 2: do think the Eagles. I I didn't think they lost

2314
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 2: And people say, oh, they got gunted defensively, And I'll

2315
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:18,200
Speaker 2: be honest with it, no one, what's behind those guys

2316
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:21,920
Speaker 2: and who they lost? Like, I didn't think. First of all,

2317
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 2: I have shot Milt Williams got that much money, I mean,

2318
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:30,960
Speaker 2: and even Josh Sweat, who I like of us?

2319
02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:32,280
Speaker 3: What will be a decent sized loss?

2320
02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:37,080
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I don't. He was a guy that was

2321
02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:41,360
Speaker 2: very he was he was more of a close guy

2322
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:46,040
Speaker 2: than uh, you know, an impact and a lot of it.

2323
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:52,160
Speaker 2: What makes Eagles the defensive front so good is Carter

2324
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:57,440
Speaker 2: Like he's just getting more dominant and dominant, Like he's

2325
02:06:57,680 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 2: so good. He he just makes everything work up front

2326
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:08,840
Speaker 2: that way. Uh. And then the other thing that made

2327
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 2: him go was Nolan Smith, right, See, he blossomed last year.

2328
02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah after initially people were kind of disappointed at the

2329
02:07:18,080 --> 02:07:19,080
Speaker 3: early returns on him.

2330
02:07:19,480 --> 02:07:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, pasts rushers, you can't judge past rushers in the

2331
02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:23,400
Speaker 2: rookie season.

2332
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, you can't expect everybody to be Javon

2333
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:28,320
Speaker 3: Curse or something from day one, you know, I.

2334
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:32,800
Speaker 2: Mean, just can't. It just doesn't work that way. Yeah. One,

2335
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:36,760
Speaker 2: he's from a part Yeah, yeah, exactly. And he's more

2336
02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:40,200
Speaker 2: of an edge guy anyway. True, but Nolan's more of

2337
02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 2: a the end And I mean look, and I saw

2338
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 2: a huge impact in what he did. I mean huge.

2339
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean he just he became the player opposite you know,

2340
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 2: they helped out sweat right like he was that deep,

2341
02:07:56,400 --> 02:08:00,120
Speaker 2: he played that well anyway, I just look at that

2342
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:03,800
Speaker 2: team and I've never seen an Eagles team that good.

2343
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, especially up front. That that front seven is

2344
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 3: was ridiculous. And then by the way you involved with

2345
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:22,320
Speaker 3: your secondary. I mean, dude, q Y, nobody talks about him.

2346
02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:26,280
Speaker 3: He teams didn't throw his way, right he it was

2347
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:32,480
Speaker 3: it was revis light. I mean it was like that, right,

2348
02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:35,280
Speaker 3: like for a rookie, For for a rookie to make

2349
02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:36,920
Speaker 3: that sort of impact, it was insane.

2350
02:08:38,320 --> 02:08:45,000
Speaker 2: And then and then Cooper dejen who could play outside, corner, slot, middlefield,

2351
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:49,720
Speaker 2: rover back. I mean, he made a huge when he

2352
02:08:49,800 --> 02:08:52,880
Speaker 2: got it into the lineup. I mean those kids. I

2353
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:56,400
Speaker 2: mean that's a rarity, like when you get two secondary

2354
02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:59,880
Speaker 2: pieces that play right away and have that kind of.

2355
02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:02,920
Speaker 3: Back, huge impact like that. Absolutely, you know it's hard

2356
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 3: to bet on that. And by the way, you draft

2357
02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:07,760
Speaker 3: John Campbell, who kind of fell to you and who

2358
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:09,640
Speaker 3: knows exactly what he's gonna end up turning into, but

2359
02:09:09,680 --> 02:09:11,680
Speaker 3: he can be a rotational guy to start next year.

2360
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:13,840
Speaker 3: You mentioned guys might get off to a bit of

2361
02:09:13,880 --> 02:09:15,400
Speaker 3: a slow start as a pass rusher, but once you

2362
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:18,000
Speaker 3: get incorporated, who knows what he's gonna end up being,

2363
02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:20,760
Speaker 3: not even this coming season, but next year you have

2364
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:22,560
Speaker 3: to have the pressure on his shoulders to be the

2365
02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:24,280
Speaker 3: quote unquote impact first round pick.

2366
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:27,600
Speaker 2: This year. Nah, he's like he's a he's a beast.

2367
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 2: And so you know, I think that they're they're probably

2368
02:09:32,440 --> 02:09:35,800
Speaker 2: another year like they're they're the elite of the NFC

2369
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:40,880
Speaker 2: East again, and it'll it'll, you know, because you're bringing

2370
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:43,360
Speaker 2: back They brought back Dallas.

2371
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:46,120
Speaker 3: Goddard, which was huge at a at a discount at that.

2372
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:50,400
Speaker 2: You know, they restructured his deal for two more years,

2373
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:54,080
Speaker 2: So you're that's a big that's a huge not losing

2374
02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:57,400
Speaker 2: your tight end, your old line is other than other

2375
02:09:57,560 --> 02:10:03,360
Speaker 2: than uh losing back in who the they have internally covered,

2376
02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 2: You're intact the same offense A J. Brown, DeVante Smith sakwan,

2377
02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 2: I mean every you know like that. That's a great offense.

2378
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:17,360
Speaker 2: It is so I still think that they are. Now

2379
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:23,320
Speaker 2: that's the NFC North, that's me again, is probably the

2380
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:26,320
Speaker 2: most fascinating division. And as good as the East is

2381
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 2: with Dallas in Washington in Philadelphia, and I do think

2382
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:33,000
Speaker 2: the Giants are better and as good as as that

2383
02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 2: division is hard to be worse right right, But the North,

2384
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:40,880
Speaker 2: the North is frightening.

2385
02:10:41,200 --> 02:10:45,240
Speaker 3: North is good, which we said going into last season,

2386
02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:48,240
Speaker 3: by the way, yeah, and ended up playing itself out.

2387
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:50,960
Speaker 3: Now the problem is what are the Bears gonna look

2388
02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:53,360
Speaker 3: like with all the moves they made this offseason or.

2389
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 2: Are like I don't know about you, but I'm actually

2390
02:10:56,560 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 2: to see Caleb now with Ben Johnson. You know, I

2391
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:04,760
Speaker 2: think that's gonna work. I'm hopeful that it does.

2392
02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:06,360
Speaker 3: I'm a guy that you know that their roots for

2393
02:11:06,440 --> 02:11:09,200
Speaker 3: Caleb obviously at USC kid and played played extremely well

2394
02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:11,800
Speaker 3: well the Heisman Trophy and had his took his lumps

2395
02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:14,240
Speaker 3: last year. But with all the weapons they have around

2396
02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:17,440
Speaker 3: him with the new innovative head coach uh more emphasis

2397
02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:18,160
Speaker 3: on the run game.

2398
02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:19,160
Speaker 2: I seen.

2399
02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:21,040
Speaker 3: There's no there's no reason why it shouldn't work for

2400
02:11:21,120 --> 02:11:23,520
Speaker 3: them this year. But it brings up a fascinating aspect

2401
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:26,240
Speaker 3: to your point, I mean, every single team in that

2402
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 3: division I think can Like maybe the Bears are probably

2403
02:11:29,200 --> 02:11:30,880
Speaker 3: are maybe not knocking on the door of quote unquote

2404
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:32,480
Speaker 3: winning the division. Maybe you can say they're fighting for

2405
02:11:32,520 --> 02:11:36,320
Speaker 3: a wildcard, but Detroit, Minnesota, Green Bay. Can't you make

2406
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:38,960
Speaker 3: a case for all three of them to win the division?

2407
02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? I I the Lions. I actually feel I feel

2408
02:11:47,800 --> 02:11:52,880
Speaker 2: horrible for the Lions and their fans because of all

2409
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 2: the injuries, Like they got robbed last year. They were

2410
02:11:56,320 --> 02:12:01,280
Speaker 2: a great team and they only fell off because of

2411
02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:02,040
Speaker 2: all the injuries.

2412
02:12:02,320 --> 02:12:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, starting in like week twelve, there was like an

2413
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:06,520
Speaker 3: important guy that went down like every week after that.

2414
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:07,320
Speaker 3: It was insane.

2415
02:12:07,480 --> 02:12:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean you get decimatal defense, correct, You know, when

2416
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:15,840
Speaker 2: you lose your your great players at one point, and

2417
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:20,040
Speaker 2: you lose your best pass rusher and three quarters of

2418
02:12:20,080 --> 02:12:26,560
Speaker 2: your secondary, it's hard to overcome. Yeah, you can't. You can't.

2419
02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:29,160
Speaker 2: And by the way it looks, Montgomery.

2420
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:32,200
Speaker 3: Right, well, it's also the unfortunate part is it's something

2421
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:34,760
Speaker 3: that you just can't predict, you know, going into a

2422
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:37,760
Speaker 3: season or going into the postseason, when you face that

2423
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:40,440
Speaker 3: much attrition. That's why people say, like, the team that

2424
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:42,160
Speaker 3: wins is the team that's the healthiest at the end

2425
02:12:42,160 --> 02:12:44,200
Speaker 3: of the year. A lot of time, your health is

2426
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:47,920
Speaker 3: almost as more important than how talented and how talented

2427
02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 3: you are because you have important pieces. Imagine in Philadelphia,

2428
02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:54,720
Speaker 3: you know, if they would have lost a bunch of that, like,

2429
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:56,680
Speaker 3: nobody's able as good enough to overcome that.

2430
02:12:56,760 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 2: They just aren't nobody. Nah, you're right on uh. I mean,

2431
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:06,440
Speaker 2: Minnesota is about McCarthy, right, so it's all about him.

2432
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:12,520
Speaker 2: At Green Bay, you're curious. You like their moves, I

2433
02:13:12,600 --> 02:13:14,280
Speaker 2: mean you get it. You get a real receiver.

2434
02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And which I know is something that you've been

2435
02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:18,920
Speaker 3: critical of, is getting the more weapons for Jordan Love.

2436
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:22,240
Speaker 3: I like their moves. I like them like they're look

2437
02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:23,960
Speaker 3: their offseason moves. I think we're really good.

2438
02:13:24,440 --> 02:13:24,600
Speaker 2: You know.

2439
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:27,600
Speaker 3: Getting the defensive back Hobbs from the Raiders I think

2440
02:13:27,680 --> 02:13:29,600
Speaker 3: is huge helping their secondary. He's one of the best

2441
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:33,280
Speaker 3: slot corners in the entire league. The big thing for

2442
02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:36,720
Speaker 3: them offensively is just keeping their receivers healthy. They have

2443
02:13:36,760 --> 02:13:39,400
Speaker 3: a good I think they have a good young stable

2444
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:41,200
Speaker 3: of receivers, but they got to keep these guys like

2445
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:42,720
Speaker 3: Reading like Watson on the fields.

2446
02:13:43,240 --> 02:13:47,120
Speaker 2: That's the problem. The guys just can't stay healthy. Yeah, yeah,

2447
02:13:47,240 --> 02:13:49,480
Speaker 2: I'm I'm with you, man.

2448
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:51,640
Speaker 3: But I mean, if these young guys can all stay

2449
02:13:51,680 --> 02:13:54,520
Speaker 3: and grow together, I mean, these guys can end up

2450
02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:56,680
Speaker 3: taking over the division for the next five six years.

2451
02:13:57,280 --> 02:14:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I love Detroit. I mean Kibs is

2452
02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:05,240
Speaker 2: still young, like Kibbs is a beast. But no, I mean, listen,

2453
02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:10,520
Speaker 2: your point is right now. I just like I like Golden.

2454
02:14:10,640 --> 02:14:15,000
Speaker 2: I thought every every time Texas needed a big play

2455
02:14:15,080 --> 02:14:17,040
Speaker 2: down the field, he made.

2456
02:14:16,840 --> 02:14:19,840
Speaker 3: It true, absolutely true. He was their go to guy.

2457
02:14:20,720 --> 02:14:25,000
Speaker 2: Give you no, I'm just saying, so you go, Golden,

2458
02:14:25,480 --> 02:14:30,240
Speaker 2: Reed Dobbs. I mean, you know, I think Golden makes

2459
02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:33,440
Speaker 2: those tears. I think Golden. I think Golden is a

2460
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:35,720
Speaker 2: legit number one in this league. I like him. I'm

2461
02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm I like that pick.

2462
02:14:37,520 --> 02:14:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean clearly they do too. So and I

2463
02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:43,120
Speaker 3: still like Christian Watson too. I think he's an impact

2464
02:14:43,120 --> 02:14:45,440
Speaker 3: player when he's healthy. He just like I said, never

2465
02:14:45,600 --> 02:14:48,480
Speaker 3: is ye, And you have Jacobs, who someone obviously I

2466
02:14:48,560 --> 02:14:51,480
Speaker 3: as Raider fan, know extremely well, and he's a great back.

2467
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:54,520
Speaker 3: So I like I like Green Bay's chances as much

2468
02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:57,560
Speaker 3: as anybody's. I can't pick Minnesota to duplicate what they

2469
02:14:57,600 --> 02:14:59,280
Speaker 3: First of all, nobody thought Minnesota would do what they

2470
02:14:59,320 --> 02:15:03,400
Speaker 3: did last year, so that's one. So I cannot reasonably

2471
02:15:03,440 --> 02:15:06,440
Speaker 3: predict that they win fourteen games again, especially with JJ

2472
02:15:06,560 --> 02:15:08,320
Speaker 3: McCarthy at the quarterback, because I just don't know what

2473
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:08,640
Speaker 3: he is.

2474
02:15:09,440 --> 02:15:09,840
Speaker 2: He could be.

2475
02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:11,720
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, he could be Mark Sanchez, you know what

2476
02:15:11,760 --> 02:15:13,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, I have no idea what this guys.

2477
02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:17,560
Speaker 3: That there's no sample size whatsoever, preseason or otherwise to

2478
02:15:17,600 --> 02:15:18,880
Speaker 3: even know the kind of player that he would be,

2479
02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:22,080
Speaker 3: so I will be skeptical. So I would say Minnesota

2480
02:15:22,120 --> 02:15:25,240
Speaker 3: probably takes a half a step back. So I probably

2481
02:15:25,480 --> 02:15:28,720
Speaker 3: drop Minnesota and pump up Chicago if I have to

2482
02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:31,440
Speaker 3: do like a little bit of an NFC North projection shuffle.

2483
02:15:32,200 --> 02:15:35,280
Speaker 2: The only figure is that floor is. I love Floras.

2484
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:38,560
Speaker 2: I think I love that defense, and I think their

2485
02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:40,560
Speaker 2: defense is still strong.

2486
02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:44,680
Speaker 3: Their defense is very good. Do they have enough offensively

2487
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:47,360
Speaker 3: at the quarterback? They look to have the offensive talent, right,

2488
02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:51,120
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Addison Jefferson are great in Hockinson when

2489
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:52,160
Speaker 3: he's able to be healthy too.

2490
02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hawkinson's a big deal. If you could stay healthy,

2491
02:15:56,480 --> 02:15:57,200
Speaker 2: that's a big deal.

2492
02:15:57,360 --> 02:15:59,520
Speaker 3: He's phenomenal, He's excellent, He's one. He's one of the

2493
02:15:59,560 --> 02:16:01,440
Speaker 3: you know, up top eight tight ends of the league

2494
02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:04,200
Speaker 3: when he's healthy, receiving tight ends at least yep. But

2495
02:16:04,280 --> 02:16:05,840
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of keeping him on the field.

2496
02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:09,240
Speaker 3: But the biggest question mark is at the most important position.

2497
02:16:09,640 --> 02:16:11,560
Speaker 3: And that's why I am skeptical about them, and that's

2498
02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:14,600
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy. So I think they take a step back

2499
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 3: for that reason.

2500
02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:18,320
Speaker 2: You know, you know why I'm looking forward to saying

2501
02:16:18,360 --> 02:16:23,560
Speaker 2: let's go to the south Man Tampic just gets better, right,

2502
02:16:23,880 --> 02:16:30,440
Speaker 2: Like Igbuka, you draft to go with Evans and Godwin

2503
02:16:31,120 --> 02:16:34,360
Speaker 2: and McMillan, who was terrific last year.

2504
02:16:34,480 --> 02:16:37,920
Speaker 3: Remember McMillan is kind of like carbon copy of Mike

2505
02:16:37,959 --> 02:16:41,040
Speaker 3: Evans from a Bill Sat build and play standpoint. So

2506
02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:43,920
Speaker 3: that's probably like a Lauren under Mike. You guys play

2507
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:46,560
Speaker 3: a similar position, similar style and then once he ushers out,

2508
02:16:46,959 --> 02:16:48,880
Speaker 3: you slide into his to his spot. I think it

2509
02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:51,760
Speaker 3: was a phenomenal, really really smart draft pick by them.

2510
02:16:53,440 --> 02:16:55,199
Speaker 2: I mean that, I mean I look at that team.

2511
02:16:55,280 --> 02:16:59,680
Speaker 2: I mean, and then you add defensively at son Reddick, right,

2512
02:17:00,040 --> 02:17:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean you had uh, I don't know. I look

2513
02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:07,720
Speaker 2: at that team. I mean as old as Vaveay is

2514
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:11,240
Speaker 2: in there in the middle of that defense, that's they're nasty.

2515
02:17:11,520 --> 02:17:16,879
Speaker 2: They are. Baker Baker became just legit man. He got

2516
02:17:16,920 --> 02:17:17,640
Speaker 2: a great year.

2517
02:17:18,080 --> 02:17:22,480
Speaker 3: He is he is I wouldn't say better than above average.

2518
02:17:22,520 --> 02:17:24,800
Speaker 3: He's a good starting NFL quarterback at this point in time.

2519
02:17:25,440 --> 02:17:27,720
Speaker 3: Not great, not gonna be a you know, all pro

2520
02:17:27,920 --> 02:17:30,560
Speaker 3: or anything. But he's gotten himself to the status with

2521
02:17:31,080 --> 02:17:33,080
Speaker 3: He's now a quarterback where you say, with the right

2522
02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:34,720
Speaker 3: pieces around him, you can win with him.

2523
02:17:35,520 --> 02:17:40,360
Speaker 2: He's gotten to that status. I mean the numbers were,

2524
02:17:41,160 --> 02:17:44,600
Speaker 2: they were through the roof. I know. Yeah, Where would

2525
02:17:44,640 --> 02:17:46,640
Speaker 2: you put him in the NFC? I'm curious, let's play

2526
02:17:46,640 --> 02:17:47,720
Speaker 2: it played this little I.

2527
02:17:47,760 --> 02:17:49,760
Speaker 3: Put the Bucks over all in the MC. No, where

2528
02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:55,080
Speaker 3: would you put Bakers Baker quarterback in the NFC. Well,

2529
02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:55,920
Speaker 3: let's just look like you.

2530
02:17:55,959 --> 02:18:05,920
Speaker 2: Got Jayleen, you got Stafford, you got uh golf love.

2531
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm just throwing quarterbacks out there that of the best

2532
02:18:09,040 --> 02:18:16,959
Speaker 2: team Jack. I mean, dude, he's he's top three now three,

2533
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:20,960
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I mean I'd rather Baker than Dak,

2534
02:18:21,040 --> 02:18:24,720
Speaker 2: but that's all. That's all, you think. I'll take Baker

2535
02:18:25,520 --> 02:18:26,440
Speaker 2: every day to week.

2536
02:18:26,440 --> 02:18:28,600
Speaker 3: When they're both at their best. I think they're probably

2537
02:18:28,680 --> 02:18:30,600
Speaker 3: on par at this point in their careers. I'll put

2538
02:18:30,600 --> 02:18:31,080
Speaker 3: it that way.

2539
02:18:31,720 --> 02:18:36,720
Speaker 2: I think, like a flip, I mean Baked, like in all.

2540
02:18:36,680 --> 02:18:38,560
Speaker 3: Due respect to Baker too, Like I mean, it's it's

2541
02:18:38,840 --> 02:18:41,480
Speaker 3: a one year sample size of this sort of production.

2542
02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:45,440
Speaker 3: Dak has had a couple of years like this. I

2543
02:18:45,560 --> 02:18:46,600
Speaker 3: got to see him do it again.

2544
02:18:48,640 --> 02:18:51,480
Speaker 2: Okay. I don't know if you know, I'll take Baker,

2545
02:18:51,520 --> 02:18:53,680
Speaker 2: but I okay, but just you know that's fine.

2546
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:55,920
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think either of them are great, but

2547
02:18:56,280 --> 02:18:58,800
Speaker 3: I think Baker at best, I think it's kind of

2548
02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:01,080
Speaker 3: on par with Dak, and I probably it's here below

2549
02:19:01,360 --> 02:19:02,920
Speaker 3: And that's just because I gott to see him do

2550
02:19:02,959 --> 02:19:07,520
Speaker 3: it again. But I'm still taking Stafford over him. I'm

2551
02:19:07,560 --> 02:19:10,880
Speaker 3: taking Jalen over him. Yeah, I'm taking Daniels over him.

2552
02:19:11,480 --> 02:19:13,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well Daniels is one. Yeah.

2553
02:19:14,400 --> 02:19:16,560
Speaker 3: The golf is interesting because I do think golf to

2554
02:19:16,640 --> 02:19:20,279
Speaker 3: a certain degree is elevated because they he's a product

2555
02:19:20,320 --> 02:19:22,240
Speaker 3: of the system. But I I can't hope that against

2556
02:19:22,320 --> 02:19:24,760
Speaker 3: him because I make this argument all the time. Everybody's

2557
02:19:24,760 --> 02:19:28,080
Speaker 3: a system quarterback. So I will take golf over Baker.

2558
02:19:28,160 --> 02:19:31,600
Speaker 3: I'll say that, I'll take love over him. You take

2559
02:19:31,640 --> 02:19:35,240
Speaker 3: golf over Baker, Yeah, I take Baker over golf. Well,

2560
02:19:36,440 --> 02:19:38,279
Speaker 3: I think those guys will probably probably.

2561
02:19:38,040 --> 02:19:41,920
Speaker 2: Put with those weapons. Yeah, I'll take Baker over golf.

2562
02:19:42,120 --> 02:19:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're probably on par.

2563
02:19:44,400 --> 02:19:47,000
Speaker 2: Plus. I think he's He's just a better athlete too.

2564
02:19:48,680 --> 02:19:50,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't know if

2565
02:19:50,120 --> 02:19:51,520
Speaker 3: that you can be you know, have to be a

2566
02:19:51,560 --> 02:19:53,280
Speaker 3: great athletes and to be a great quarterback.

2567
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:55,480
Speaker 2: But well no, no, but I'm saying I just think

2568
02:19:55,879 --> 02:19:58,480
Speaker 2: Baker's better. I think he can move, can move more.

2569
02:19:58,560 --> 02:20:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine, Baker can move better than Stafford. I

2570
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:03,279
Speaker 3: still think Stafford's better.

2571
02:20:03,160 --> 02:20:07,199
Speaker 2: Than he is. Yeah. Well, I mean, but Stafford's Stafford's

2572
02:20:07,320 --> 02:20:11,880
Speaker 2: an anomaly, right, Like he's your last pocket quarterback that

2573
02:20:12,400 --> 02:20:17,200
Speaker 2: that you could you just love, that can win, right like, Yeah,

2574
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:19,760
Speaker 2: because Baker, Baker's legs are under rated.

2575
02:20:20,760 --> 02:20:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can move on that. He's not gonna you know,

2576
02:20:22,440 --> 02:20:25,560
Speaker 3: run for five hundred yards. Lamar, But he's but he's

2577
02:20:26,040 --> 02:20:28,160
Speaker 3: you know, he can keep playing a little better than

2578
02:20:28,280 --> 02:20:28,800
Speaker 3: Dak does.

2579
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:29,600
Speaker 2: He does.

2580
02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:32,200
Speaker 3: Yes, that could never move that well. That is even

2581
02:20:32,240 --> 02:20:33,160
Speaker 3: before his leg injury.

2582
02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:36,480
Speaker 2: That is true. That is true. Look, if you're ranking

2583
02:20:36,560 --> 02:20:41,600
Speaker 2: him in the NFC, Daniels is won, and then you

2584
02:20:41,720 --> 02:20:47,400
Speaker 2: got Stafford Jalen, right, like, depending on your offense appetite.

2585
02:20:47,080 --> 02:20:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take love over him, you take, I would take.

2586
02:20:51,920 --> 02:20:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm a love guy. I am. I think his his

2587
02:20:56,640 --> 02:21:01,600
Speaker 2: line hurt him last year. Yeah, not to take it well,

2588
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:03,720
Speaker 2: you know, not to give him an alboy because.

2589
02:21:03,520 --> 02:21:05,920
Speaker 3: He makes some poor decisions and poor throws as. But

2590
02:21:06,200 --> 02:21:09,879
Speaker 3: I mean in general an amalgam. I think he's he's

2591
02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:13,680
Speaker 3: he's excellent trending towards being being excellent. He's really good,

2592
02:21:13,720 --> 02:21:14,400
Speaker 3: trending towards.

2593
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:16,879
Speaker 2: Being I'm still a love fan, man, I can tell

2594
02:21:16,959 --> 02:21:22,400
Speaker 2: football day. It's just fun. When coming up the the

2595
02:21:22,600 --> 02:21:27,040
Speaker 2: Braid's coming up. We'll talk a little, uh playoffs and

2596
02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:30,360
Speaker 2: I'll have some pics. We'll uh, we'll chop it up

2597
02:21:30,360 --> 02:21:33,119
Speaker 2: with him. Next where the Fellas Radio with the Mother's

2598
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:37,320
Speaker 2: Day Weekend on Fox Sports Radio.

2599
02:21:39,640 --> 02:21:42,520
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2600
02:21:42,600 --> 02:21:45,960
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02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:50,160
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2602
02:21:50,280 --> 02:21:50,920
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2603
02:21:54,120 --> 02:22:00,360
Speaker 2: I fellas Figgie cause you know what time it is now,

2604
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:06,680
Speaker 2: fig Yes, sir? So what do I tell you where?

2605
02:22:06,760 --> 02:22:10,520
Speaker 2: You know? The brain is the world traveler right, absolutely?

2606
02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:15,920
Speaker 2: So he just God blessed him and he's he deserves it.

2607
02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:19,280
Speaker 2: He's one of the nicest people, like just good hearts.

2608
02:22:19,879 --> 02:22:24,320
Speaker 2: I root for good people and he's good. So his experiences,

2609
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:32,039
Speaker 2: he collects experiences. So Brain, tell FIGI where you were

2610
02:22:32,200 --> 02:22:32,680
Speaker 2: this week?

2611
02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:35,840
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. I'm not thank you for good

2612
02:22:35,840 --> 02:22:37,720
Speaker 4: to hear you. Yes, he always great to hear you.

2613
02:22:39,120 --> 02:22:42,039
Speaker 4: Not a big golfer, h It's interesting. I grew up

2614
02:22:42,080 --> 02:22:45,760
Speaker 4: playing other sports, never really golf, but like I see,

2615
02:22:45,760 --> 02:22:47,320
Speaker 4: it was like three or four years ago I got

2616
02:22:47,400 --> 02:22:50,400
Speaker 4: invited through my gambling to the British Open, and so

2617
02:22:50,600 --> 02:22:53,120
Speaker 4: like I went there, I took my son played the

2618
02:22:53,120 --> 02:22:56,960
Speaker 4: British Open courses. Again. I stink, but God blased. It

2619
02:22:57,040 --> 02:22:59,320
Speaker 4: was so much fun. And then me and my son

2620
02:22:59,360 --> 02:23:00,600
Speaker 4: were like, you know what, it may not be good

2621
02:23:00,640 --> 02:23:04,040
Speaker 4: at golf though he's actually getting better now. Let's go

2622
02:23:04,120 --> 02:23:06,200
Speaker 4: to the best courses, play like once a year, like

2623
02:23:06,280 --> 02:23:09,040
Speaker 4: are like the best rank courses. So we played band

2624
02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:10,760
Speaker 4: in Dunes in Oregon, which was incredible.

2625
02:23:10,879 --> 02:23:11,560
Speaker 2: We did a couple of.

2626
02:23:11,560 --> 02:23:14,720
Speaker 4: Amazing ones in Vegas. We played Pebble Beach, and I

2627
02:23:14,800 --> 02:23:18,760
Speaker 4: got to tell you, I'm I know for a fact,

2628
02:23:19,400 --> 02:23:21,720
Speaker 4: just my own case. It's like, I'm sure you guys,

2629
02:23:21,920 --> 02:23:25,360
Speaker 4: you know certain things. You just know your personal taste.

2630
02:23:26,640 --> 02:23:29,360
Speaker 4: I could play every golf course in the world. There's

2631
02:23:29,400 --> 02:23:31,480
Speaker 4: a zero percent chance I will find something nicer than

2632
02:23:31,520 --> 02:23:35,520
Speaker 4: Tubble Beach based on what I find amazing and cool.

2633
02:23:38,120 --> 02:23:42,240
Speaker 2: On the sea. I mean, it's unbelievable. It was me.

2634
02:23:42,360 --> 02:23:45,080
Speaker 4: It was absolutely we got lucky. See, we got a

2635
02:23:45,080 --> 02:23:47,560
Speaker 4: beautiful day. It was probably seventy two and Sonny no wind.

2636
02:23:48,440 --> 02:23:49,840
Speaker 2: It was so beautiful.

2637
02:23:50,680 --> 02:23:54,560
Speaker 4: Everything about it was just I was just like, you can't.

2638
02:23:54,920 --> 02:23:55,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how you.

2639
02:23:55,959 --> 02:23:58,440
Speaker 4: Could ever have a nicer course than Tebble Beach for

2640
02:23:58,520 --> 02:24:01,480
Speaker 4: anyone who likes golf, don't like golf. I think it's

2641
02:24:01,480 --> 02:24:04,560
Speaker 4: actually almost a relevant for anyone who just just wants

2642
02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:09,560
Speaker 4: to a great experience. Cannot recommend highly enough. Pebble Beach

2643
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:14,840
Speaker 4: also played not Spyglass it was a Spanish bay, but

2644
02:24:14,959 --> 02:24:17,960
Speaker 4: to me that was nice. But no comparison to me,

2645
02:24:18,080 --> 02:24:21,360
Speaker 4: Pebble Beach for anyone who has interest in golf even

2646
02:24:21,400 --> 02:24:23,800
Speaker 4: a little bit, it's not even a bucket list thing.

2647
02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:25,600
Speaker 4: I'd think if you don't do it, you should just

2648
02:24:25,760 --> 02:24:28,560
Speaker 4: be ashamed. It was that it's expensive. I get it,

2649
02:24:28,720 --> 02:24:32,000
Speaker 4: but in life it is about experiences and if you

2650
02:24:32,080 --> 02:24:33,959
Speaker 4: don't do that, if you have any interest in golf,

2651
02:24:34,360 --> 02:24:35,920
Speaker 4: shame on you. It was that amazing.

2652
02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants to Beanie Babies or Paul because you

2653
02:24:38,800 --> 02:24:41,360
Speaker 3: can collect experiences like Pebble Beach. I mean, come on,

2654
02:24:41,440 --> 02:24:42,520
Speaker 3: that's what you know.

2655
02:24:42,600 --> 02:24:44,560
Speaker 4: It's funny, and it's funny. We were actually going to

2656
02:24:44,640 --> 02:24:48,920
Speaker 4: go anthanauty we got both hes, got diverted to Denver.

2657
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:52,880
Speaker 4: Got diverted to Denver, and I swear I was going

2658
02:24:52,959 --> 02:24:54,720
Speaker 4: to go to the Denver ok C game. I was

2659
02:24:54,760 --> 02:24:57,560
Speaker 4: going to do it, but had a family obligation here

2660
02:24:57,640 --> 02:24:58,879
Speaker 4: and I couldn't pull it off.

2661
02:24:58,920 --> 02:25:01,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know what then game dude, that

2662
02:25:01,879 --> 02:25:02,720
Speaker 2: would have been awesome.

2663
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:05,200
Speaker 4: Still still getting that. He's like, we would have the

2664
02:25:05,280 --> 02:25:08,520
Speaker 4: best time, like I know, but family obligations have been doing.

2665
02:25:12,160 --> 02:25:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been fantastic. Yeah it was.

2666
02:25:15,320 --> 02:25:17,920
Speaker 4: It was good stuff. But the golf was really really fun.

2667
02:25:17,959 --> 02:25:20,760
Speaker 4: As I said, anyone who looking for experience. I could

2668
02:25:20,840 --> 02:25:22,039
Speaker 4: not rank it highly enough.

2669
02:25:22,800 --> 02:25:28,360
Speaker 2: So all right, let's talk NBA, buddy, because I mean,

2670
02:25:28,440 --> 02:25:32,240
Speaker 2: what an incredible Uh it's the second round's been awesome

2671
02:25:33,040 --> 02:25:39,520
Speaker 2: between the Knicks, right and Denver. Okay, so he's been awesome,

2672
02:25:40,080 --> 02:25:44,080
Speaker 2: the Pacers and Calves. I mean it's a lot of fun. Man,

2673
02:25:44,120 --> 02:25:48,120
Speaker 2: it's good. It's just great theater. Uh let's look at

2674
02:25:48,600 --> 02:25:49,280
Speaker 2: who are you for?

2675
02:25:49,959 --> 02:25:50,880
Speaker 4: Celtics or Nicks.

2676
02:25:51,560 --> 02:25:56,480
Speaker 2: Oh it's not even close. I'm ok, yeah, it's not. Listen.

2677
02:25:56,600 --> 02:26:00,720
Speaker 2: The Celtics are blood enemy of me. I hate.

2678
02:26:02,400 --> 02:26:05,160
Speaker 4: No, I agree, you know that's the greatest.

2679
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:10,720
Speaker 2: I see that green. Oh yeah, the same way.

2680
02:26:10,879 --> 02:26:13,120
Speaker 4: Okay, we're in the same page, all three of us.

2681
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:17,039
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we share that figured and I bonded over

2682
02:26:17,080 --> 02:26:18,640
Speaker 2: our Celtics hate absolutely.

2683
02:26:20,360 --> 02:26:22,840
Speaker 3: I grew up a Laker fan, Brad so Enough said.

2684
02:26:23,600 --> 02:26:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, I was was funny and like Celtic Lakers.

2685
02:26:26,080 --> 02:26:28,200
Speaker 4: I rooted for obviously Lakers one hundred percent of the time.

2686
02:26:28,680 --> 02:26:30,480
Speaker 2: Under I mean like I didn't like we were we

2687
02:26:30,640 --> 02:26:35,800
Speaker 2: were magic sympathizers, nice like we like magic over bird

2688
02:26:36,400 --> 02:26:37,160
Speaker 2: any good reason.

2689
02:26:39,920 --> 02:26:41,520
Speaker 4: I wasn't the same that I could have been riding

2690
02:26:41,560 --> 02:26:43,199
Speaker 4: the same boat as you guys. I had the same

2691
02:26:43,879 --> 02:26:46,400
Speaker 4: same feelings. So yeah, I totally I totally get. But yeah,

2692
02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:48,520
Speaker 4: listen to the playoffs. It's interesting, guys. I have to

2693
02:26:48,600 --> 02:26:50,160
Speaker 4: do the math on it. I got to do the

2694
02:26:50,200 --> 02:26:51,680
Speaker 4: math on my guests this time.

2695
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:52,000
Speaker 2: I got.

2696
02:26:52,240 --> 02:26:54,920
Speaker 4: I'm just throwing this number out there, probably five thousand

2697
02:26:54,920 --> 02:26:57,880
Speaker 4: and one that the chances of the playoffs running out

2698
02:26:57,959 --> 02:26:59,760
Speaker 4: six and oh, if you just did a parlay of

2699
02:27:00,400 --> 02:27:03,120
Speaker 4: knicks to be up to nothing, Calves to be down

2700
02:27:03,200 --> 02:27:07,039
Speaker 4: to nothing, Okay, See to lose Game one, and Minnesota

2701
02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:09,160
Speaker 4: to lose Game one, I think it had to probably

2702
02:27:09,200 --> 02:27:10,440
Speaker 4: be close to five thousand and one.

2703
02:27:11,320 --> 02:27:12,039
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

2704
02:27:12,800 --> 02:27:16,280
Speaker 4: That was just unbelievable with those first six games. And

2705
02:27:16,320 --> 02:27:20,200
Speaker 4: obviously we saw Golden State came back, okay, See came

2706
02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:22,760
Speaker 4: back to Burley in Game two, and then the Cavs

2707
02:27:22,800 --> 02:27:25,080
Speaker 4: were able to you know, get back in the series yesterday.

2708
02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:29,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's been an incredibly interesting, you know,

2709
02:27:29,560 --> 02:27:32,520
Speaker 4: playoff second round in terms of just seeing these teams

2710
02:27:32,560 --> 02:27:35,800
Speaker 4: that we thought were the best teams not being able

2711
02:27:35,840 --> 02:27:39,760
Speaker 4: to win. So it's it's certainly been extremely good TV.

2712
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:42,119
Speaker 4: And again the guy, can you imagine beat the Celtics.

2713
02:27:42,360 --> 02:27:44,480
Speaker 4: The Knick's been leading for what twenty seconds and these

2714
02:27:44,480 --> 02:27:45,560
Speaker 4: two games and they're two and zero.

2715
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty wild, I guess. And I haven't seen

2716
02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:50,520
Speaker 3: the numbers. I've been trying to find it, but the

2717
02:27:50,600 --> 02:27:53,800
Speaker 3: odds of the Celtics coming back to coming back to

2718
02:27:53,879 --> 02:27:56,280
Speaker 3: win this series, Brad, I don't know what the number is.

2719
02:27:56,360 --> 02:27:58,080
Speaker 3: Maybe you do, but do you think that will be

2720
02:27:58,160 --> 02:27:59,760
Speaker 3: a solid bet for a lot of people who feel

2721
02:27:59,800 --> 02:28:02,640
Speaker 3: like though Boston has looked so bad these first two games,

2722
02:28:02,680 --> 02:28:03,359
Speaker 3: that they're still.

2723
02:28:03,200 --> 02:28:03,760
Speaker 2: The better team.

2724
02:28:04,840 --> 02:28:07,720
Speaker 4: Well, I think Boston clearly is the better team right now.

2725
02:28:07,800 --> 02:28:09,959
Speaker 4: The series price Boston, believe it or not, it's about

2726
02:28:09,959 --> 02:28:13,400
Speaker 4: a dour twenty favorite, still still favored, still favored. And

2727
02:28:13,520 --> 02:28:15,280
Speaker 4: there was a lot of sharp money from a lot

2728
02:28:15,320 --> 02:28:17,240
Speaker 4: of people that I didn't quite get there, but there

2729
02:28:17,320 --> 02:28:20,280
Speaker 4: was a lot of money bet on Boston minus about

2730
02:28:20,320 --> 02:28:24,040
Speaker 4: three twenty or so after Game one, thinking, you know what,

2731
02:28:24,120 --> 02:28:25,640
Speaker 4: there's no way to lose in Game two and they're

2732
02:28:25,640 --> 02:28:29,280
Speaker 4: still going to win this series probably relatively still easily is,

2733
02:28:29,720 --> 02:28:32,000
Speaker 4: but yeah, look down through nothing, but they got to

2734
02:28:32,040 --> 02:28:34,480
Speaker 4: win this game, and again I think they're gonna do it.

2735
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:39,200
Speaker 4: But I'm not laying a dollar twenty with Boston. I'll

2736
02:28:39,200 --> 02:28:41,400
Speaker 4: tell you why, because I think we'll talk about this game.

2737
02:28:41,680 --> 02:28:43,400
Speaker 4: You can get six twice with the Knicks yere. Now,

2738
02:28:43,400 --> 02:28:45,200
Speaker 4: I don't think the Knicks are that great. But here's

2739
02:28:45,240 --> 02:28:47,959
Speaker 4: the thing. Boston's not that great. No, it's that great.

2740
02:28:48,560 --> 02:28:52,360
Speaker 4: And I think perzingis his health is a big thing

2741
02:28:53,680 --> 02:28:55,760
Speaker 4: following Boston closer this year. I thought he was their

2742
02:28:55,800 --> 02:28:57,959
Speaker 4: second best player in the forty two games he did play,

2743
02:28:58,920 --> 02:29:02,720
Speaker 4: him giving them not much because of this his unfortunate nailment.

2744
02:29:03,280 --> 02:29:06,320
Speaker 4: I think that's a big deal. I think today's game

2745
02:29:06,320 --> 02:29:09,120
Speaker 4: is gonna be closed. Line is six, and I say

2746
02:29:09,160 --> 02:29:13,039
Speaker 4: to myself, I get the desperation, and I think again, yes,

2747
02:29:13,080 --> 02:29:15,440
Speaker 4: then it's gonna win the game. Guys, I think Boston

2748
02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:21,400
Speaker 4: will win the game. But with six points, yeah to Yes,

2749
02:29:21,879 --> 02:29:23,480
Speaker 4: the crowd is gonna be insane. It's gonna be the

2750
02:29:23,520 --> 02:29:25,160
Speaker 4: most crowd game of the year.

2751
02:29:25,360 --> 02:29:27,000
Speaker 2: Yes, why why?

2752
02:29:27,360 --> 02:29:30,440
Speaker 4: Why is Boston again? I always say to these things,

2753
02:29:30,520 --> 02:29:33,840
Speaker 4: any fancy think about it? Just because they're down to nothing,

2754
02:29:33,879 --> 02:29:36,000
Speaker 4: does that just mean that New York's say we're not trying.

2755
02:29:36,040 --> 02:29:38,199
Speaker 4: I always like laugh when I think these things. Okay,

2756
02:29:38,240 --> 02:29:40,200
Speaker 4: we're up to two, uncod let's not even try. Let's

2757
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:40,920
Speaker 4: just make it two to one.

2758
02:29:40,959 --> 02:29:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, it's.

2759
02:29:42,520 --> 02:29:44,400
Speaker 4: Gonna be a charge game for the Knicks.

2760
02:29:45,440 --> 02:29:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. I think we're looking

2761
02:29:51,680 --> 02:29:55,440
Speaker 2: at Cleveland, Indiana. Last night in Cleveland, what was Cleveland

2762
02:29:55,480 --> 02:29:57,840
Speaker 2: four and a half last night and a half?

2763
02:29:57,920 --> 02:29:59,480
Speaker 4: Three opened at three.

2764
02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:00,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

2765
02:30:00,600 --> 02:30:02,760
Speaker 4: One of my one of my betting partners at achieved

2766
02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:04,800
Speaker 4: made it his biggest bet of the year. Is like,

2767
02:30:04,879 --> 02:30:06,320
Speaker 4: de Line's going to close five and a half. He

2768
02:30:06,440 --> 02:30:09,480
Speaker 4: nailed it. Shout out to my boy JB. But Line

2769
02:30:09,600 --> 02:30:12,400
Speaker 4: closed it five and a half. Uh And yeah, I mean,

2770
02:30:12,480 --> 02:30:14,920
Speaker 4: but I think you're right, Anthony, And what you saw

2771
02:30:15,120 --> 02:30:19,120
Speaker 4: Cleveland and a quote unquote must win just absolutely dominate

2772
02:30:19,240 --> 02:30:21,959
Speaker 4: Indiana and I went by twenty five. I think you're

2773
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:23,800
Speaker 4: getting a little bit. And then you saw game two

2774
02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:27,360
Speaker 4: Minnesota get dominated or dominate Golden State, and you saw

2775
02:30:27,480 --> 02:30:29,160
Speaker 4: Golahoma City doing I think you're getting a little bit

2776
02:30:29,200 --> 02:30:32,200
Speaker 4: of it. But then I think to myself, so I just.

2777
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:36,640
Speaker 2: Said, this matchup is different, and the Knicks are different.

2778
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:44,440
Speaker 2: The Knicks are a rugged team, right with a rugged coach, right,

2779
02:30:44,720 --> 02:30:48,520
Speaker 2: and rugged teams don't get like I would be shocked

2780
02:30:49,360 --> 02:30:52,400
Speaker 2: if Boston blew them out. The only way Boston blows

2781
02:30:52,480 --> 02:30:56,400
Speaker 2: them out is if they're on fire from three. Now

2782
02:30:56,680 --> 02:31:01,199
Speaker 2: they that will happen, But that I think there's gonna

2783
02:31:01,240 --> 02:31:03,800
Speaker 2: be a lot uh that won't happen in one game

2784
02:31:03,840 --> 02:31:06,560
Speaker 2: where Boston for sure shoots the lights out where they.

2785
02:31:06,560 --> 02:31:08,400
Speaker 4: May Yeah, there's gonna be one game they probably do

2786
02:31:08,480 --> 02:31:10,040
Speaker 4: blow them out just because they shoot so well from

2787
02:31:10,080 --> 02:31:11,080
Speaker 4: the way the way we play.

2788
02:31:12,080 --> 02:31:15,120
Speaker 2: But I don't think today, I don't think that happens

2789
02:31:15,879 --> 02:31:17,640
Speaker 2: just because of all the energy it's going to be

2790
02:31:17,640 --> 02:31:21,720
Speaker 2: in that building. I mean, that's gonna be msg uh

2791
02:31:22,000 --> 02:31:24,160
Speaker 2: and it'll be at its height.

2792
02:31:24,640 --> 02:31:29,000
Speaker 4: Like really, I think the more fair line here is

2793
02:31:29,120 --> 02:31:32,040
Speaker 4: for so they get six. To me, I think the

2794
02:31:32,120 --> 02:31:35,680
Speaker 4: Knicks Merricks A bet I do again, Boston probably gonna

2795
02:31:35,680 --> 02:31:39,080
Speaker 4: win it, but again winning by seven, and the pup

2796
02:31:39,120 --> 02:31:41,000
Speaker 4: this crowd you're gonna see all year with a cry.

2797
02:31:41,440 --> 02:31:43,960
Speaker 4: All right, maybe they do it. But and then, by

2798
02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:47,320
Speaker 4: the way, here's the thing also to me, let's just

2799
02:31:47,400 --> 02:31:50,560
Speaker 4: look at these things. Oklahoma City had to play Denver

2800
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:54,440
Speaker 4: at home and their quote unquote, they want it Golden State.

2801
02:31:54,840 --> 02:31:56,560
Speaker 4: You miss or not play Golden State at home? They

2802
02:31:56,640 --> 02:32:00,240
Speaker 4: want it to me Indiana. I just don't think is

2803
02:32:00,280 --> 02:32:03,080
Speaker 4: is I just don't consider at Indiana versus at New

2804
02:32:03,160 --> 02:32:05,400
Speaker 4: York in the same level. I know Indiana salid and

2805
02:32:05,440 --> 02:32:07,680
Speaker 4: they're tough. I get it, But I just think this

2806
02:32:07,840 --> 02:32:12,760
Speaker 4: is a much harder road to go with Boston than

2807
02:32:12,800 --> 02:32:14,080
Speaker 4: these other teams are going to do. I think it's

2808
02:32:14,080 --> 02:32:15,360
Speaker 4: gonna be tough game, I really do.

2809
02:32:15,959 --> 02:32:18,080
Speaker 3: What are you thinking about? You mentioned Golden State there

2810
02:32:18,080 --> 02:32:21,119
Speaker 3: about their prospects. Today they're getting five and a half

2811
02:32:21,160 --> 02:32:25,040
Speaker 3: against Minnesota. Obviously Steph Curry is out and could be

2812
02:32:25,080 --> 02:32:28,240
Speaker 3: out as far as like game six, How far this

2813
02:32:28,320 --> 02:32:31,000
Speaker 3: how long this series goes? How do you how are

2814
02:32:31,000 --> 02:32:32,840
Speaker 3: you looking at today? Golden State is at home, they're

2815
02:32:32,879 --> 02:32:35,000
Speaker 3: better at home, but obviously not having Steph in the

2816
02:32:35,000 --> 02:32:36,000
Speaker 3: lineup is a big loss.

2817
02:32:36,840 --> 02:32:38,680
Speaker 4: It's a huge loss. Look here that you look at

2818
02:32:38,720 --> 02:32:41,720
Speaker 4: Golden State and I just don't think they're a very

2819
02:32:41,800 --> 02:32:45,440
Speaker 4: good team without him. Uh And they finally again, I

2820
02:32:45,640 --> 02:32:47,560
Speaker 4: I wish again, I wish I could speak to Steve

2821
02:32:47,680 --> 02:32:50,800
Speaker 4: Kerr and somebody's finally cominging to me. Was, you know,

2822
02:32:50,879 --> 02:32:53,200
Speaker 4: outside of Jimmy Butler. I thought their next best offense

2823
02:32:53,240 --> 02:32:56,640
Speaker 4: player that he's been dusted off. They finally used them,

2824
02:32:56,920 --> 02:32:59,480
Speaker 4: you know, finally used them, and they're playing these guys

2825
02:32:59,560 --> 02:33:01,560
Speaker 4: that can't score. I just don't understand it. But they

2826
02:33:01,600 --> 02:33:04,000
Speaker 4: finally used the me had like twenty points played. Well,

2827
02:33:04,720 --> 02:33:08,520
Speaker 4: all that being said, again, lean here, I like, actually

2828
02:33:08,680 --> 02:33:11,280
Speaker 4: like the mix. Lean here, Golden Tate getting the five

2829
02:33:11,320 --> 02:33:14,800
Speaker 4: and a half. Just because they're at home. I think

2830
02:33:15,280 --> 02:33:16,760
Speaker 4: maybe one of these two games that are going to

2831
02:33:16,879 --> 02:33:19,039
Speaker 4: keep close, one of them will probably lose by double digits.

2832
02:33:20,120 --> 02:33:23,879
Speaker 4: No again, not a game I'm betting personally, I think miss.

2833
02:33:23,920 --> 02:33:28,440
Speaker 2: Wet Ring, we got like thirty seconds. Yeah, so can

2834
02:33:28,520 --> 02:33:33,520
Speaker 2: you can you run through the games tomorrow? Any hockey,

2835
02:33:33,640 --> 02:33:35,040
Speaker 2: any baseball, whatever you got?

2836
02:33:35,360 --> 02:33:38,480
Speaker 4: Love Love Love the capitalis plus one seventy five. I

2837
02:33:38,520 --> 02:33:40,680
Speaker 4: think it's a fifty to fifty game. Love that one

2838
02:33:40,680 --> 02:33:43,080
Speaker 4: of my favorite bets. Love the maple Leafs plus a

2839
02:33:43,120 --> 02:33:45,240
Speaker 4: dollars sixty five in game four, I think it's a

2840
02:33:45,280 --> 02:33:49,720
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty game. Some baseball, real quick Corton Byurns

2841
02:33:49,920 --> 02:33:52,840
Speaker 4: fifteen and a half outs thirty sorry, thirty one and

2842
02:33:52,920 --> 02:33:55,920
Speaker 4: eight if last thirty nine starts, give me over fifteen

2843
02:33:55,920 --> 02:33:58,280
Speaker 4: and a half outs for him. Love under five and

2844
02:33:58,320 --> 02:34:01,360
Speaker 4: a half in the Yankees A's five inn line series

2845
02:34:01,400 --> 02:34:03,640
Speaker 4: has been terrific all year. We're going right now with

2846
02:34:03,760 --> 02:34:06,360
Speaker 4: in the best picture outside of schoobl in the world

2847
02:34:06,560 --> 02:34:09,920
Speaker 4: allowed twenty five forty nine innings. Love under five and

2848
02:34:09,959 --> 02:34:11,680
Speaker 4: a half runs in that one. And if you can

2849
02:34:11,720 --> 02:34:14,480
Speaker 4: grab a four in either the Red Sox game or

2850
02:34:14,600 --> 02:34:16,880
Speaker 4: the Giants twins scheme under four and a five in line,

2851
02:34:17,080 --> 02:34:18,959
Speaker 4: both those very solid bets in my opinion.

2852
02:34:19,680 --> 02:34:21,920
Speaker 2: All right, Bardy, good stuff. Good to have you back.

2853
02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:25,520
Speaker 2: Have a great weekend, man, Thanks, Bratt, be good. There

2854
02:34:25,720 --> 02:34:28,080
Speaker 2: is the brain, all right, figured it out. I'll be

2855
02:34:28,240 --> 02:34:31,320
Speaker 2: right back. We'll take a quick to come back and

2856
02:34:32,640 --> 02:34:40,240
Speaker 2: wrap up a fun morning Fellas on Fox. Fellas wrapping

2857
02:34:41,160 --> 02:34:43,760
Speaker 2: up a show on a Mother's Day weekend, figuring I

2858
02:34:44,680 --> 02:34:47,320
Speaker 2: want to wish everybody a happy Mother's Day, all your

2859
02:34:47,360 --> 02:34:52,680
Speaker 2: mom's out there, wives and just making a special day.

2860
02:34:53,400 --> 02:34:56,280
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2861
02:34:56,440 --> 02:35:00,320
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2862
02:35:00,440 --> 02:35:04,520
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2863
02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:08,480
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2864
02:35:08,680 --> 02:35:11,560
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2865
02:35:12,160 --> 02:35:15,200
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2866
02:35:15,320 --> 02:35:20,200
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2867
02:35:20,280 --> 02:35:23,320
Speaker 2: the way, I do want to thank our five production team,

2868
02:35:23,480 --> 02:35:29,600
Speaker 2: Brianna and everybody Mark. They are the best, right absolutely,

2869
02:35:30,440 --> 02:35:33,360
Speaker 2: Happy Mother's Day to your beautiful wife. Thank you and

2870
02:35:33,440 --> 02:35:35,280
Speaker 2: yours as well. Thanks brother.

2871
02:35:36,480 --> 02:35:39,880
Speaker 3: You got all the mimosas that she can. Yeah, she

2872
02:35:40,800 --> 02:35:44,960
Speaker 3: you know, hold it up, mom, you deserve that.

2873
02:35:46,200 --> 02:35:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they shall be. She'll be eating well that the

2874
02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:52,520
Speaker 2: little surf and turf for the moms tomorrow.

2875
02:35:52,720 --> 02:35:54,520
Speaker 3: I said, I can't believe that phenomenal spread that you

2876
02:35:54,560 --> 02:35:56,199
Speaker 3: talked about about the rowing.

2877
02:35:57,320 --> 02:35:59,960
Speaker 2: That's incredible. The rowing figures, unbelieve.

2878
02:36:00,320 --> 02:36:00,880
Speaker 5: I like that.

2879
02:36:02,120 --> 02:36:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've been the one regatta race right, and

2880
02:36:09,920 --> 02:36:14,000
Speaker 2: you know, like all these schools have tents and it's

2881
02:36:14,120 --> 02:36:16,600
Speaker 2: like this row of tents on the banks of the

2882
02:36:16,760 --> 02:36:24,519
Speaker 2: river and they all have like these like enormous grills

2883
02:36:24,760 --> 02:36:29,080
Speaker 2: and and flap flat tops and they're cooking. You know,

2884
02:36:29,160 --> 02:36:33,000
Speaker 2: they start with the breakfast sandwiches and then you know

2885
02:36:33,160 --> 02:36:35,520
Speaker 2: all the different coffees and stations, and I mean it

2886
02:36:35,560 --> 02:36:40,960
Speaker 2: sounds like it's exactly what it is. And then they

2887
02:36:41,040 --> 02:36:43,199
Speaker 2: go from that to like, you know, they're making cheese

2888
02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:45,959
Speaker 2: steaks and you know, I mean, you know all kinds

2889
02:36:45,959 --> 02:36:48,920
Speaker 2: stall that themes like the sickle de mile one was,

2890
02:36:49,240 --> 02:36:52,039
Speaker 2: you know, all like my one, all the stuff. Meanwhile,

2891
02:36:52,760 --> 02:36:56,800
Speaker 2: I'm at baseball and you know they had they all

2892
02:36:56,840 --> 02:36:59,199
Speaker 2: have the concession stands at baseball.

2893
02:36:58,959 --> 02:37:01,400
Speaker 3: Right, the little pop upstand and over there off the field, right,

2894
02:37:01,800 --> 02:37:06,080
Speaker 3: and it's like going to it's like going to Wrigley Field.

2895
02:37:07,200 --> 02:37:11,560
Speaker 2: Like the prices, yeah, are are like it's they're crazy.

2896
02:37:12,600 --> 02:37:16,879
Speaker 2: These these concession stands charge seven dollars for hot dog. Yeah,

2897
02:37:16,879 --> 02:37:19,280
Speaker 2: I'm not paying fifteen dollars for taffy Tail's wrong with you?

2898
02:37:20,240 --> 02:37:23,720
Speaker 2: It's not. It's like this is you faithful? It's twelve

2899
02:37:23,879 --> 02:37:28,200
Speaker 2: you right? And you know because these these tournaments, right,

2900
02:37:28,240 --> 02:37:30,080
Speaker 2: they bring all these teams and a lot of times

2901
02:37:30,600 --> 02:37:32,840
Speaker 2: you're stuck, like you got time, you got all this

2902
02:37:33,040 --> 02:37:37,160
Speaker 2: time before get like in between games, and they're right

2903
02:37:37,240 --> 02:37:39,200
Speaker 2: like we're playing like five six games during the week,

2904
02:37:39,320 --> 02:37:42,000
Speaker 2: and sometimes you don't have time to go anywhere, so

2905
02:37:42,879 --> 02:37:45,400
Speaker 2: you go to concession standing. It's like oh daddy, I

2906
02:37:45,560 --> 02:37:50,840
Speaker 2: want fingers, all right, chicken figures. Twelve dollars for chicken figures.

2907
02:37:50,720 --> 02:37:56,280
Speaker 3: Like what ridiculous. That's why, you know's and stuff. They'll

2908
02:37:56,320 --> 02:37:58,640
Speaker 3: just throw an air fry. Stuff you can do at home,

2909
02:37:59,040 --> 02:38:01,640
Speaker 3: you know. Oh yeah, buy a giant a giant box

2910
02:38:01,720 --> 02:38:04,400
Speaker 3: of you know, frozen nuggets for twelve dollars that the

2911
02:38:04,480 --> 02:38:05,360
Speaker 3: last year, five months.

2912
02:38:05,879 --> 02:38:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's ridiculous. Shame on.

2913
02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's out on the parents of the kids

2914
02:38:12,040 --> 02:38:13,240
Speaker 3: who are just out there trying to have a good

2915
02:38:13,280 --> 02:38:13,960
Speaker 3: time with their kids.

2916
02:38:14,320 --> 02:38:18,440
Speaker 2: Wrong. Yeah, it's it's insane. I mean you do you

2917
02:38:18,520 --> 02:38:21,199
Speaker 2: know the other trick, like they'll get they'll buy pizzas

2918
02:38:22,160 --> 02:38:25,199
Speaker 2: and then they'll get like you'll buy a pizza for whatever,

2919
02:38:25,360 --> 02:38:28,680
Speaker 2: just say twenty bucks, right, and then they'll sell a

2920
02:38:28,840 --> 02:38:34,600
Speaker 2: slice for six dollars. Oh right, So like, you know,

2921
02:38:35,800 --> 02:38:38,800
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable, like they you know, kids don't get it

2922
02:38:38,879 --> 02:38:41,440
Speaker 2: because of course there's kids in the parents are there

2923
02:38:41,520 --> 02:38:45,400
Speaker 2: and yeah, in between they have the gatorade. Uh, daddy,

2924
02:38:45,440 --> 02:38:49,240
Speaker 2: I gotta red gatorade, daddy. You know, So, I mean

2925
02:38:49,280 --> 02:38:51,480
Speaker 2: that's what you go to these states. You're like, oh

2926
02:38:51,560 --> 02:38:55,520
Speaker 2: my god, I just bet like forty six dollars, like

2927
02:38:55,720 --> 02:38:56,880
Speaker 2: want nothing. Yeah.

2928
02:38:57,240 --> 02:38:59,360
Speaker 3: It was like this a little league game where I'm out, like,

2929
02:38:59,440 --> 02:39:01,920
Speaker 3: you know, Dodger Stadium, What the hell we do exactly?

2930
02:39:02,240 --> 02:39:04,640
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous and like if I'm getting a Dodger dog

2931
02:39:04,840 --> 02:39:10,360
Speaker 2: all right, you know, Oh we're at We're done. Have

2932
02:39:10,520 --> 02:39:13,120
Speaker 2: a great everybody. We love you, See you next week.