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He'll 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to do, It's what he likes 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: to share. Now it's time to hear from my man, 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald money making Conversations. Here we come. Welcome to 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashan McDonald. I 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: tell everybody every week is my mantra to stop reading 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: other people's success stories and start writing your own. Also 30 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: tell people about their passion to leave with their gifts 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: and don't let your age, friends, family, a coworkers stop 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: you from planning or living your dreams. On my show, 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: interview for consumers as well as business owners access and 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: give them mass sex. The celebrities, CEOs, aren't you being nears? 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: And what I like to call interestry decision makers. I 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: asked them advice on giving us secrets to their success. 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: My next guest is Dr Simone Whitmore. She's a Board 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: certified O b g y N and star on Bravo's 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: Married to Medicine returning for his eighth season with guests, 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: well some of the co stars or stars or Dr 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: Jacqueline of course of miss Dr Whitmore, Dr Heavily who's 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: a danist, uh Dr to Tessa who's an occupying occupational medicine, 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Toya who's well Tarya, they're married to a doctor. And 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: friends of the cast like NSA and the Cold Guard 45 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: Well and Carrie Welles. New cast member this season, Anila 46 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: a song on the pilot first year. She's a fashion 47 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: blogup but she's married to doctor. Dr Simone. Whitmore is 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 1: on my show to talk about COVID eight team as 49 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: civil unrest. That's an erring on the season that she's 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: experienced personally as well, and the upcoming season of marriage 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: which is the eighth seed, the marriage to medicine and 52 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: the realities of being a real doctor on a reality show, 53 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: please walk and money making conversation for the very first time. 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm happy to have her on the show. Dr Simone 55 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: with more. How are you doing. I'm doing excellent and 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. First of all, 57 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. And uh, you know, 58 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: the reality shows at one time would consider I thought 59 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: it would be a fad. I thought they wouldn't last, 60 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: and at one time there was really out of control. 61 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: They were physically out of control and a lot of 62 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: a lot of noise, a lot of cussing, a lot 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: of fussing, a lot of drink throwing. And you decided 64 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: to a being a certified doctor into this room. What 65 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: what drove you or what was the motivation behind being 66 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: a part of Married to Medicine. The reason I was 67 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: willing to film reality TV is because I felt that 68 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: little black girls in America needed to see somebody that 69 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: didn't come from money. I came from an alcoholic dad, 70 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: a single mom, and I know how to have a 71 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: good time and live my life without the white coat. 72 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: And I wanted little ground girls in America to see 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: that if I did it, she can do it too. Well. 74 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: You know you are doing that. It's in this an 75 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: eight season and it's all about branding too and always 76 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: about what people think of you. And that this is 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: not a negative interview. These are just basic questions and 78 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: that I'm just probing and just trying to get your 79 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: story out because I think it's a really great story. 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: I've watched I've watched the show offered on over the years, 81 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: and my background is casting and producing, so I'm very 82 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: familiar with your talents and a lot of your cast 83 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: member quite where Up has been on my show several times. 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of hers and so. But when 85 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: you're when you're practicing doctor like you are, and you're 86 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: on the reality show, does it and you have a practice, 87 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: does it ever become an issue with the people that 88 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: you are, that you are that are your patients. So 89 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: most of my patients who have been with me for years, 90 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: they know who I am. I may say a little 91 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: mild cuss word in the office trying to be funny, 92 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: and my patients understand me. When I came to reality TV, 93 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: I came as my authentic self, no more, no less, 94 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: just my authentic self. And what is your authentic self? 95 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I love medicine, I love O B G. 96 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Y N. But I also like to have a good time, 97 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: hang out shop, have a cocktail hour, and I love 98 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: the lab. Well, you know, I think you're thinking, hear 99 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: what you're saying. You want to break the stereotype, or 100 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: if there's a stereotype, you want to say, this is 101 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: me and it's all right. To be me with no 102 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: with no um. I guess you know. Standards are are 103 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: because some people kind of put people on pedestals. And 104 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: I think that's what you're saying that please look at me. 105 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm Dr Samone with Moore, I am, I am board certified, 106 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: I am successful, I'm happily married. I have a son 107 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: about to go to college. He's living a good life, 108 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: and I live in a of a home. Why can't 109 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: I be me? Why can't I be Why can't I 110 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: dress this way and this fashion fashion savvy? Why can't 111 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: I eat this way? Why can't that laugh out lot 112 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: in public? So in your sense, you're feeling that there 113 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: are certain standards that people hold doctor's too, that should 114 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: be pulled down or accepted. That it's all right to 115 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: be a human being. Not to say that any standard 116 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: that we have or the way we see our doctors 117 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: should be pulled down, but they should be humanized. Man, 118 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: we are human first. And I have that doctor before 119 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: my name. Now I have that m D after my name, 120 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: but it's not on my birth certificate. It does not 121 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: define who I am. I'm a wife, I'm a mother, 122 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm a sister, I'm a girlfriend. And again life is 123 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: about being well rounded. My dad always taught me that 124 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: be well rounded. Well, you know the thing I got 125 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: that impression of you, uh and the first episod so 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: of the eighth season, which I did get a chance 127 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: to see because I want to make sure I was 128 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: caught up to speed, you know, where the characters were 129 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: being developed, and first of the first basically the first 130 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: episode is your episode. Like I said, you joked off 131 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: air and said, you know you start why not? And 132 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: so it ended with you and you and you're Jackie. 133 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: Still got issues, heavenly got issues. You know, your son 134 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: about to go off to college. But I thought that 135 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: was a real tender moment in there, your conversation with 136 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: your son about racism, you know, because that's a reality 137 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: that you know. I have a daughter, she's uh, you know, 138 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: she's in college, and but even having a young African 139 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: American male that has to be even more stressful knowing 140 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: he's going to an environment that may have seeds of racism. 141 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: Talk about that and we're just talking about parenting. That's 142 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: me or not, we're both parents. But you had a 143 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: conversation with your son, how do you feel? And you know, 144 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: lights on on and lights I felt that was a 145 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: real conversation was having with him. But that still has 146 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: to be some hesitation about him walking out that door. 147 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: And and because you want him to come home. You 148 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: wanted to when you when you call that phone, you 149 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: wanted to answer. You want to be there when he's happy. 150 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: You want to be there when he said, But you 151 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: want to be there when somebody is doing it wrong 152 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: because you didn't put eighteen years of your life into 153 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: him or bring him into this world for ignorance to 154 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: step into, you know, shortening his life or causing difficulty 155 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: in his life. We've always taught our sons to respect authority, 156 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: to not run your mouth, not to talk back when 157 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: a police or a teacher or any of those is 158 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: talking to you. But one of the most important things 159 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: we try to teach our sons do not have an 160 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: encounter with the police. So it means abiding by the law, 161 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: not speeding when you're driving down the highway. And we 162 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: had always thought if we taught our boys be respectful, 163 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: follow the rules, that they would always come home. And 164 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: George Lloyd that video last year showed us that you 165 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: don't have to be doing anything illegal. You don't have 166 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: to be running you don't have to be talking back, 167 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: and you could still lose your life based on someone 168 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: else's perception of what they think a black man is. 169 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: And that's you know, being a black man. And I 170 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: think then you and and and at the end of 171 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: the Premierre episode of the eighth season, they do the 172 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Fellas get around talking about you know, being pulled over 173 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: being a black man in America. The reality is that 174 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: you are raising a young black man in America and 175 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: he's going to school. Tell us about the school that 176 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: he's going to, you know, not in the environment, and 177 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: how what makes you feel comfortable about him going because 178 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: he has to feel comfortable he's going, okay, but what 179 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: also is making you feel uncomfortable about the environment that 180 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: he's going to. So the school is Lee University in Cleveland, 181 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: tennis See. Cleveland, Tennessee is a small town in Tennessee 182 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: that's near Chattanooga. But I just remember that during the 183 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: pandemic the school was closed. We drove up to Cleveland, 184 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: Tennessee just to drive around the campus to see what 185 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: it was like since he didn't get the traditional tour 186 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: with school open. And I just remember as we're driving 187 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: through this small town of Cleveland seeing all of the 188 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: Confederate flags. So when I saw those, of course I 189 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: became concerned. Downtown Cleveland has a Confederate monument which is walking. 190 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: This is from the school and it's a small school, 191 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: majority white. It's a Christian school. And the reason we 192 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: were willing to take the chance for him to go 193 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: to the university. Number one, you just hope, you really 194 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: hope that people who are claiming to be Christians are 195 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: Christians somehow that God is touching their minds, their souls, 196 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: their bodies to really live a Christian life. But you know, 197 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: there were some other basketball players whom he had spoken 198 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: with over the summer who had not had any racial encounters, 199 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: and we're not having any difficult time on campus. Is 200 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: the reason we decided that it would be okay for 201 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: him to attend the university. You know, the interesting thing 202 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: about it is that this is part of married to medicine. 203 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: This is a part of the lessons of life, lesson 204 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 1: that are relatable to it. Because this that that storyline 205 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: was relatable to me. My daughter was, you know, um 206 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: a tennis phenomen at sixteen, and so she was going 207 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 1: out there playing that she blew out her knee in 208 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: nineteen and now she's in college and very happy for her. 209 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: But the reality is that where can you send your Sunday? 210 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: He won't experience racism indirectly or directly, you feel me. 211 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: So so you're you're basically and you're and your husband 212 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: bakingly say and yes, we're uncomfortable, but this is life. 213 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: You know. We hope we've raised them. And I'm not 214 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: putting any words in your mouth. I'm just talking like 215 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: a parent that hopefully we raised them with the values 216 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: like you told him. You know, if it's in a 217 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: thirty or five drift, thirt or five son, okay, you know, 218 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: a void ignorant for cop pulls you over, tend to understand. 219 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: World said yes, sir, no sir, till you get out 220 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: the car. Get out the car. Don't we playing loud 221 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: music unnecessarily? So these are the rules that we lived 222 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: by because of the color of our skin. And like 223 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: you said, all America, all of America, because it was 224 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: involved and it was in the uproar, including white people 225 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: when they finally saw and that's I think that we 226 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: all were happy finally when you saw that on top 227 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: of COVID, because you are a legitimate doctor. How does 228 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: that affect your practice and also your daily life when 229 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: COVID came on top of it reality, because we all 230 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: thought KOVID was gonna be a couple of months, we 231 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: were turned to normal. It's not right. Working in the 232 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: medical field during a pandemic has been an interesting thing, 233 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: you know. Continually, I don't in fear at all, but 234 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: just trying to make sure that I stayed up to 235 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: date and educated on this virus because it felt like 236 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: it was changing. Things were changing in the medical field 237 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: week by week early on, and just making sure that 238 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: I updated my patients and encouraged them to stay safe. 239 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: You know, I have pregnant patients during this time, and 240 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to see them sick. And sometimes the 241 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: young people are a little harder to convince that the 242 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: virus is real and deadly. Well, you know, isn't it 243 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: what We all immortal at that age? You know, we 244 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: get safe, we get up. You know, I should tell free, 245 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, I should get a flu. I go play 246 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: a game of basketball, and they said sweat it out 247 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: of me, and so I trying to sweat it out 248 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: of me now because I'll be laying on the court. Doc, 249 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: you know. But the beauty of this show is that 250 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: you have friends. You know, one of your friends and 251 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: this was one of the lead storylines of the opening season, 252 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: was your friendship with Jackie twenty three years in And 253 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm just to let you know that in the in 254 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: the opening episode, Jackie was constantly talking about getting back 255 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: with you, talking about I just want to reconcile, And 256 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: then they showed you constantly, never saying that they they well, 257 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what it is what it is, 258 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: and you know, and as a producer and an editor, 259 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: I know they can play characters to develop storylines. And 260 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: so this is a person you've known for twenty three years. 261 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: She's an original member of the show, along with yourself. 262 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: Where do you go when you see these storylines being developed? 263 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get to Heavenly in a minute. But 264 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the friendship of Jackie and 265 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: Simone m So I again, I come to reality TV 266 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: as my authentic self. I'm not going to fake a friendship. 267 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: I Am not going to pretend to make up unless 268 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: my heart is really in it, right. And Jackie and 269 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: I have known each other a very long time, and 270 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: of all the cast on this show. She knows me 271 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: the best, I know her the best, and I did 272 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: not want to make up for TV's sake. I just 273 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: wasn't interested either we were gonna have a genuine sit 274 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: down conversation or not. But I didn't want to make 275 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: up just for TV's sake. And I'm just asking now, 276 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just asking, So what is makeup 277 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: for TV sake versus having a genuine sit down? Would 278 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: it be on camera or would it be off camera 279 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: between you and jack Um? It could be either one 280 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: quite frankly, because again, I'm going to express my real 281 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions. And it doesn't matter whether a camera 282 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: is rolling or not. When you say true to who 283 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: you are, it doesn't matter whether a camera is present 284 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: or not. Well you showing that, now you've shown that. 285 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: Now heavenly? How is heavenly? She was a dentist, you know, y'all. 286 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: Y'all joke about that a lot throughout the seasons. Though 287 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: we just said Dr Danni is even Anila came in 288 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: cracking jokes. Crack joke, she's a blogger, Okay, gonna crack 289 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: jokes on the dentist. Um, So how does she get 290 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: in between the two of you. Guys, did I miss 291 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: that episode of some well so? In actual in actuality, 292 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that heavenly came between me and Jackie, 293 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: and that is how I felt last year. But in 294 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: the pandemic, I spent more time at home. I was 295 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: able to think about things and get my feelings in check, 296 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: if you will, and basically I mean Heavily and I 297 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: have gone back and forth, back and forth, getting along 298 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: not getting along over the years since she started the 299 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: show on season two. As a matter of fact, she 300 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: hated me and Jackie when she started, we hated her. 301 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: The feeling was mutual, but over the years we had 302 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: all grown to become close friends. But Heaviley and I 303 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: would get into it one talk for a couple of 304 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: months on in our camera, and Jackie always gave me 305 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: her thoughts and opinions. She would tell me, I think 306 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: you shouldn't even be taking this stuff, Heavily saying too serious, 307 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing this, or you should be doing that, 308 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: and she always talked to both of us. This time, 309 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: my friend of twenty three years decided she didn't have 310 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: any words on it, because I guess she didn't want 311 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: to hurt my feelings, but she knows me. She had 312 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: never been her tongue before. And you know that expression, 313 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: cat got your tongue, I'll just leave you with the cash. Well, 314 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: you know, when y'all didn't have a sit down, she 315 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: said that she was gonna be It was on camera 316 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: that she didn't want to make a decision, she wanted 317 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: to make it, and then you took that very personal 318 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: and so I see now you know Dr Heavenly, who 319 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: is a dentist by the way, is uh is reveling 320 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: in this breakup. I think she's reveling and driving a 321 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: wage between the relationship and personally and personally, I don't 322 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: think Jackie sees that. Am I correcting assuming that I 323 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: think Jackie is not eve or she's or she has 324 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: developed a wall of stubbornness to say that she's not 325 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: gonna be bothered. So I don't think. I definitely think 326 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: Jackie is aware of what Heavenly is doing. But Heavenly 327 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: is also Jackie's bulldog, right, and so maybe that is 328 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: just the strategy that you would rather have this bulldog 329 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: who defends you even on the days you're wrong. She's 330 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: still defending you with An interesting thing to my show 331 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: is called money making conversation. You are an entrepreneur, a 332 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: small business owner, Let's talk about that whole process of 333 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: dealing with because people want to hear anyboy show about advice. 334 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: What would you give and old starting to practice? How 335 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: would you hire people? I always tell people, you gotta 336 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: have a great r HR person when you you gotta 337 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: have a great accountant. That's my early notes to anybody's 338 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: starting to start, especially accountant. Don't be sitting over there 339 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: talking to trying to do books by yourself and you've 340 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: never done books before. So as a as a as 341 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur who start up because you represent you know, 342 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: the fastest growing population and entrepreneurship or African American females, 343 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: and you are an African American female, you are star, 344 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: you are brand. Talk about being a small business owner 345 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: just when you started, but also now doing COVID nineteen. 346 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: What I would talk what I would recommend for anybody 347 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: who is starting a business, doing as much research as 348 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: you possibly can before you start your business. Know the 349 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: industry you're gonna going into, Know some of the pitfalls 350 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: of the industry you're going into. And for me, I 351 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: was already practicing medicine before I opened up a business. 352 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: You can't even imagine how hard it's going to be 353 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: until you actually open those doors. But I do agree 354 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: with you that you have to have an accountant who 355 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: gives you advice regularly. And what I like to say 356 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: is count all your pennies, look for your pennies, figure 357 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: out ways when you're buying supplies that you could save 358 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: money because you may be only buying from this supplier. 359 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: But then somebody over here has a cheaper learned how 360 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: to build relationships so that when you need help you 361 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: can get help. You need a banking relationship, that relationship 362 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: with an accountant. You need relationships with people in the 363 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: industry who are doing the exact same thing you're doing, 364 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: just to get advice on the pitfalls when they actually happened, 365 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: how to get out of those pitfalls, and just know 366 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: that no matter what happens, you can always depend on 367 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: yourself in business for yourself. There you go. Now, when 368 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: one going closing question is about you didn't plan on 369 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: because we talked about budget, you said, always count your 370 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: pennis no where every penny is. We did not think. 371 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: And I'm saying I'm a business owner. I did not 372 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: see masking my budget. I didn't see hand sanitizing my budget. 373 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: I didn't see working from home and my budget and 374 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: telling medicine. I'm sure we're picked up strongly in your business, 375 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: but like I said, you're dealing with with you know O. B. 376 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: G Ryan profession, So tell the medicine almost like what 377 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: is that? So? How did that affect your business model? 378 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: And also your employees? How did you work through that? 379 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: Like I was able to do teleconferencing because I'm just 380 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: dealing with graphics and I'm a production company, but you're 381 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: in medicine. How did you deal with that? And how 382 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: did your patients deal with that? So definitely finding PPE 383 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: to purchase and purchasing PPE was an additional expense. But 384 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: what I tell any anybody who's in business for themselves, 385 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: always save for a rainy day, because if you have savings, 386 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: when you run into these additional expenses, it just shouldn't 387 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: be that big of a deal. So you either have 388 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: the savings or you have a credit line with the 389 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: bank available to help you in a in a financial need. 390 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: But with staff, I tried to stay calm and try 391 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: to reassure them. For me, with pregnant patients. I was 392 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: not able to do all of the visits using telemedicine. 393 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Surely we did some, but not all. And what I 394 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: did was we continue to come to the office. We 395 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: shortened the office hours, and I continue to make payroll 396 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: for the full forty hours a week. But again, just 397 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: looking for resources out there, there were a ton of 398 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: resources available to small businesses. I applied for the P 399 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: P P loan. My big bank didn't give it to me, 400 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: so I went to my small bank. And again I 401 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: have two banks. I have the big bank, I have 402 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: the small bank. Nobody told me to do it that way. 403 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: That is just one of those life lessons that I 404 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: learned early on in practice. And I've been in solo 405 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: practice since two thousand four. So you learn things, and 406 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: there are always gonna be hiccups and speed bumps. You 407 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: just have to learn something from every speed bump in 408 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: the road. Well, you know, I gotta close, and I said, 409 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: was my last question. But I had to bring this 410 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: up because my wife is important in my life. You know, 411 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: speed bumps. As you're talking about the speed bumps, you 412 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: gotta turn to somebody for some truth and sometimes for 413 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: some advice. Sometimes that truth is not what you want 414 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: to hear, but it also comes with good advice because 415 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: you know that person is going to be honest with you. 416 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: So I'm leaving our question to your husband, who plays 417 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: an amazing support role. I'm gonna just tell you, doctor, 418 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of yours. I've always been a 419 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: fan of yours. And when you had that conversation with 420 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: your son when he was shooting the basketball, I was 421 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: over the roof with you because that was pure. That 422 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: was pure, honestly to me, you know, because it was 423 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: relatable to me, and uh and it and it and it, 424 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: and it was a seed that bore out of your 425 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: husband being there. Because African American young men need that male, 426 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: that male, Look how to treat women, Look how what 427 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: you do in all these different situations. To talk about 428 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: your strong support group, you know my man, talk about 429 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: him right quick before we close it out. So Cecie 430 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: and I have been married for twenty five years, and 431 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: he has definitely been a great sounding board when I 432 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: asked him about business advice, and he loves to do research. 433 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: But as any marriage goals, we have certainly had our struggles. 434 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Our marriage actually came to the brink of the brink 435 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: of a divorce, which I shared on reality TV, and 436 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: I was so thankful for this reality TV family who 437 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: helped us to realize that we were being stubborn. We 438 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: had stopped listening to one another, and we were able 439 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: not only to reconcile, but to make some differences in 440 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: our marriage so that we could keep on going in 441 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: and not just keep going, but keep going strong with 442 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you for coming on money making Conversations. 443 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: I just want to really lay it on the line 444 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: because I know you do a lot of interviews and 445 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: and I try not to be fake when I bring people. 446 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: I try to do my research, I try to acknowledge 447 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: the fact, and I try to give good questions to 448 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: allow you to move the conversation forward. But more importantly, 449 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: I only want people on my shot. I want to 450 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: talk to so and I definitely wanted to do for 451 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: having me, I want to thank you for taking the 452 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: time to coming on money making Conversations, and good luck 453 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: you all the Star of Mary to Medicine. Okay, tell 454 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: everybody for Sean said that. Okay, I said that you're 455 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: a friend. All right. We will be right back with 456 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: more money making Conversations with your host Rashan McDonald. 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First, New York 512 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: Times bestselling author of Cleaning Lean, The Clean, Twenty Shred, 513 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: Super Shred, The Shred, Power Cleans, and the Blast to 514 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: Sugar Out, which I recommended for my mama and she 515 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: used it dearly until she passed away. As the host 516 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: of the syndicated television show The Doctors, he has created 517 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: two national health initiatives. I was involved in the first 518 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: one Million Pound Challenge with Steve Harvey, State Farmed and 519 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: the Makeover Miles So I Got Great History, Dr Ian 520 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: Smith and served two terms on the President's Council on Fitness, 521 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: Sports and Nutrition. Dr n Smith the here to talk 522 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: about his newest book, fast Burned The Power of Negative 523 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: Energy Balance. This Marxist twenty book, fast Burn was released 524 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: on April thirteen. Checked this out and immediately his numerous 525 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: best sellers hit list grew. The book debated in number 526 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: nine the New York Times best Seller List and number 527 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: nineteen the USA Today best Seller List and number nine 528 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: and publish a weekly best seller list. Please welcome back again, 529 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: a dear friend and inspiration and uh and a real 530 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: doctor by the way, doctor to money baking comfortation, Dr 531 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: Ian Smith. How you doing, my brother ever Shano? Great? 532 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: Great to join you. How you feeling really good? Man? 533 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: You still look at Trie You're still looking at good 534 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: you know? You know? I guess I've been seeing you 535 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: all the way back to Jenny Jones Days, right, Yeah, 536 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: it's been a long time. And I you know, I 537 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: was saying to you before we started the broadcast that 538 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting old like everybody else. However, I'm 539 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: in the fight. I think that in life in a 540 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: fight in a good way, not a negative way. But 541 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, you can't just resign yourself to things just happening. 542 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: You have to say, I'm gonna be convicted and determined 543 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: um to make a way out of nowhere. And so 544 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: what I try to do all the time is and 545 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm not always successful, but I try every day to 546 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: be a better me. And when it comes to the 547 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: physical aspect, you know, I work out like a lot 548 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: of weights. I try to eat better. I'm not perfect 549 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: in my eating, but I try to eat better. Uh. 550 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: And I think that if people follow just that basic 551 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: kind of idea that I'm going to be better in 552 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: my physical movement better and my nutritional intake. I think 553 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: people be happier and look better and feel better. Well. 554 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: The thing about our relationship is that you know, I 555 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: got bad eating habits and so and people always say, man, 556 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: but you don't look like you eat habits because I 557 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: read his books. You know, I'm one of them. I'm 558 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: one of them. I want them good and bad customers. 559 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: You know, when when when it gets bad, Doc, I 560 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: go to your book. When it's when it's good, I 561 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: get off your book. You know what I'm saying. But 562 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: but it allows me a system of of direction. And 563 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: I think that's what we're trying to talk about here, 564 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: because so many people out there have health, health issues, 565 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: they have weight issues because they don't have direction and 566 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: also a direction that's uh. I think it's tied to 567 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: common sense. And that's what I've always felt that your 568 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: books are tied to common sense. Correct. Yeah, you know 569 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: it's interesting you say that because so many people will 570 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: say to me, well on Instagram or Facebook with dr Ian, 571 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing this, and I'm doing that and I'm doing this. 572 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: But the problem is it's not that people don't often 573 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: know what to do or how to do it. It's 574 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: that they don't have structure. Right, you gotta have structure. 575 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: You just can't say I'm want to eat better, but 576 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: what does that mean? I'm gonna exercise better? What does 577 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: that mean? And so I tell people all the time yeah, well, 578 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, what you're doing what it sounds like. 579 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: It sounds good, but it's not working well because we 580 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: need structures in our in our life, and with fast burn, 581 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: the structure is very simple. It's nine weeks um. It's 582 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: based on affordable, regular, accessible food. You have to go 583 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: to five different grocery stores to buy it. But it's realistic. 584 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: That's the key, Rashan. A plan is not going to 585 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: work for people if it's not sustainable and realistic. And 586 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 1: so I wrote this plan from the standpoint of the US. 587 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that, I mean I asked 588 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: two thousand people in my Facebook group to try out 589 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: the original draft of the plan and they gave you 590 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: their feedback. What they liked, but they didn't like what worked, 591 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: what didn't work. Uh. The average weight loss was fifteen 592 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: to seventeen pounds and nine weeks. And as much as 593 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: I helped them, they helped me because I realized there 594 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: are certain ways to make it easier. So for example, 595 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: things that people to be complain about in the program 596 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: I took care of. You can have alcohol on the program. 597 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: There's pasta, there's bread, there's state, there's pizza. I mean 598 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: all these things, uh that programs say you cannot have. 599 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: I said, you can still have it, but let's do 600 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: it in a way where we have in a healthier 601 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: manner but equally tasty. Right, you can't go healthy and 602 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: still not be tasty. So I try to do both 603 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: and fat and fast burned. And I think that's why 604 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: people like it. Well, it's it's gonna be proved to 605 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: be my favorite now because you know, as I stated earlier, 606 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: I am not the best patient. You know, if if 607 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: Dr his People was my was my doctor officially give 608 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: you Roshane, come on now, you really really really tripping that. 609 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: But in your book you you allowed me to like 610 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: the eat in proportion, which is really always the key too, 611 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: and when you eat is the key as well. And 612 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: like I said, it's also knowing your body, because you 613 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that, because a lot of 614 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: people don't listen to their body. They don't listen to 615 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: the wady body when you're telling you you know, because 616 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: that's why I always heed the story about people talking about, 617 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: oh he looks so healthy. Well, I bet you if 618 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: you don't went to a doctor, the doctor they ever 619 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: told me at the high blood pressure, high cholesterol, level 620 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: talk about that whole process because your book is, like 621 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: I said, it's a true guide, but there are all 622 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: steps that they have to take to go along with 623 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: your book to be successful. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. 624 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: I think that. Um, what people have to understand is 625 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: that these books are blueprints. Yes, folks, are not the Bible. 626 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: This book says, this is a guide for you. And 627 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: the reason why people really like fast Burns because it's 628 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: so customizable. Like when you think about it, you know, 629 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: no one wants to be dictated to what they have 630 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: to eat every day, but they do want to have options. 631 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: So there are options in the book. Every day, every 632 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: meal that has options to it. So you're vegan, vegetarian, paskeeterian, carnivore, 633 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You can make it work for you. So 634 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: you have you have lots of options. Then the other 635 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: part of it is some people say, well, you know, 636 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to go to a gym. I don't 637 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: like to go to a gym. I said no. Chapter thirteen. 638 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: These are all at home exercises you can do without 639 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: a gym membership, without the need for machines, thirty minutes, 640 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: forty four or five days a week, and you know what, 641 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: you can break it up fifteen minutes in the morning, 642 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 1: fifteen in the afternoon. So I think that people really 643 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: are looking for plans that are allowing them not just 644 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: to diet rashan for the short term, but to make 645 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: lifestyle changes. That's why I'm interested. I'm interested in you 646 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: making a lifestyle change that you can live with. And 647 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: so do I want you to be perfect? No? Do 648 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: I expect you to be perfect? Absolutely not. But let 649 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: me give you an example. If you know you're going 650 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: out to dinner, and you know you're going to a 651 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: place that doesn't have the healthiest of foods, I want 652 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: you in your mind to say, you know what, tonight, 653 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: we're eating at so and so restaurant where it's not 654 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: a lot of great choices. So for breakfast and lunch, 655 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really good. I'm gonna really make sure 656 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: that I make smart decisions. So when dinner time comes 657 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: and I have whatever I'm gonna have, I don't feel guilty. 658 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: Number one and number two, it's not gonna really hurt 659 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: me because I ate so well early the day that 660 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: to me, is the better way to live life. You 661 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: don't want to always be on a restricted you know, 662 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: heavily specified program. I want you to do a fast 663 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: burn for nine weeks. Then I want you to put 664 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: it on the shelf and say, Okay, now I am 665 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: prepared in all the situations that come at me to 666 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: make better decisions. Whether the better decision part comes into 667 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Your career has always been tied 668 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,479 Speaker 1: to I'm not gonna I'm lead the book a little 669 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 1: bit because your role as host of the Doctors, which 670 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: was a groundbreaking to me. Also, it was groundbreaking because 671 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: it happened during COVID and you our real doctor. It 672 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: affected African Americans overtly, people of color overtly. And so 673 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: with that being said, your role. As as happy as 674 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: we were because you came on my show, we talked 675 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: about it, what you're gonna do, but we all we 676 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: all thought that COVID would kind of like come and go, 677 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: and now we see it's not gonna go at all. 678 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: It's kind of like going to be like the flu. 679 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna have seasonal uh COVID eighteen shots. Look, we're 680 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: talking two questions. The first question is coming into perspective 681 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: your role in what you had to play as the 682 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: host of the doctors and COVID eighteen. And then the 683 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: long term would be my second of us living with COVID. Yeah, 684 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: two great questions. So the reason why I agreed to 685 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: host the show this year was because if you think 686 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: back before this year, there was a lot of misinformation, 687 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, incredible discredible information that was 688 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: being disseminated from the White House on down, and I 689 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: felt like the country was infused and that doctors and 690 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: scientists were not leading the conversation. If you're in a 691 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: health crisis, the doctors and scientists need to lead the discussion. 692 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: If you're in a financial crisis, the economists need to 693 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: lead a discussions. I mean, this is just how it works. 694 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: And so I felt like we had spent a year 695 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: spinning our wheels listening to all kinds of nonsense, and 696 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: so this to me personally, it was a great opportunity 697 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: to be on a big show with a big, flat platform, 698 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: to bring in experts to talk about the issues. And 699 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: I also wanted to bring in diverse experts because experts 700 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: come in all shapes and sizes and all colors and background. 701 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: So I wanted to bring people from all walks of 702 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: life and all experts from all different voices to come 703 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: in on the show, So that, to me, person was 704 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: very important, and I think we did a great job 705 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: of being able to communicate to the rest of the 706 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: country all things related to COVID, whether it was vaccines, treatment, 707 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: people who are long haulers, how do you raise kids 708 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: during COVID, how do you date during COVID? All these 709 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: topics were important, and I think that when I look 710 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: back at my career, this will have been a very 711 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: important year because I had some small say in shaping 712 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: the conversation around COVID and and dealing with COVID and 713 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: also trying to get people on air to talk about 714 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: it an incredible way. Now, when you look at the 715 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: long term of COVID, however, uh, we're at We're at 716 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: a very critical point here because people who have not 717 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: gotten the vaccine, a lot of them don't want to 718 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: get the vaccine, and we need to still reach what's 719 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: called herd immunity, which basically says that enough people have 720 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: either gotten vaccinated or been infected that the vast majority 721 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: of the population is immune to getting sick and infected again. 722 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: Herd immunity. Now, there are two ways to get to 723 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: hurt immunity. You can get there by vaccinating everybody. That's 724 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: the fastest way to do it, that's the less costly 725 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 1: way to do as far as life. If you vaccinate everybody, 726 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: we save lives, we get hurt immunity. But some people 727 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: won't take a vaccine. So what does that mean? We 728 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 1: can still reach her to immunity. But what that means 729 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: is the people who do not want to take the 730 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: vaccine eventually will get infected because the virus is like 731 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: the cold virus, It's just gonna stay there and so 732 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 1: those who don't. So imagine a hundred people, imagine eighty 733 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: people get the vaccine. That means those eight people are protected. 734 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: Now you've got twenty people. Okay, these twenty people who 735 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: do not want the vaccine, the virus is gonna circulate 736 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: within them. And then once you get infected, then you 737 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: will have some type of immunity. That's what happens, right, 738 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: They'll get infected. If they survive, they will have some immunity. 739 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: We don't know how long that immunity lasts, We don't 740 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: know how long, how good it is, but they will 741 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: have some immunity. But what about the people who get 742 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: it and will die from So you're gonna reach her 743 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 1: to immunity one way or the other. I just think 744 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: we should do it without losing a lot more loss 745 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: of life. Well, we're are losing lives. And I'm gonna 746 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: tell you I never took the flu vaccine. I have been. 747 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: I've told about a visor to both of my back 748 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: nation shots. At the time of the man, I feel 749 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: comfortable and kind of gave me my life back. I'm 750 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you. Dr. I was like, you know, 751 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: I was a high degree. I was paring or I'm 752 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you. First, when the first hit, 753 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to go out of this store, 754 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: let alone Philip put gas in my car. What do 755 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: I touch? What I don't touch? What? Well? How do 756 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: I do touch? With stering? Where when they get back 757 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: in the car door, A touch the door and off 758 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: went opened the door. The door went open, my car door. 759 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: So so when I got fascinated, I developed a I 760 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: still wear my mask when I go out in public. 761 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: You know, I sit down, I take it off from 762 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: a eating But I really I think that I really 763 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: want you to tell my um my audience about that 764 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: comfort zone that you would get and I've said it 765 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: many times, but I would just let you know this man, 766 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 1: how important you are. Sometimes you know you do stuffing 767 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: on the regular basis. Dr and Smith. There are no 768 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: other black voices or voices of your color on TV 769 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: talking to us. Understand that now you know that's some 770 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: great for it. Dr Vaci is great. Dr George great, 771 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: I love him. Coup to eas great, but he's not 772 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: you and so and that's important that you understand that 773 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: because you're just doing your job. You're you're you're buried 774 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: at what you do. You you're saving lives on regular basis. 775 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't know that you are seven. You just somethings, 776 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: just doing your job like any doctor will do. When 777 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: you go into the hospital, I just feel your hospital 778 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: is the TV, your hospital is social media, your hospital 779 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: is a public medium, and so you don't immediately see 780 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: the results because you're not there checking on us once 781 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: a week or we're not coming in and checking on 782 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: with you. But your voice as an African American talking 783 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: to us, it's so important that at this point for 784 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: me to get you back on my show, not only 785 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: to promote your incredible book, because you've never failed me, 786 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: with your diet plans. I've used them many times. And 787 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: I've told you many times when the book that I 788 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: recommend my mother to use your book and us just 789 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 1: ro I said, yes, he's using it right now, okay, 790 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: and happen And so what is your role? And my 791 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: am I putting too much on your plate? No, no, 792 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: you're not. You know it. Actually, while I am happy 793 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: on one hand, um, to are you being laudatory and 794 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: complimentary about what I do and it's impact on people, 795 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: it's also very sad to me. It's sad to me 796 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of other undiscovered doctor Ian's 797 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: out there who are going to be better than me 798 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: at what I do, who are equally educated, equally articulate, 799 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: equally informative, and equally helpful. Uh. And they're out there, 800 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters. Uh. And you know it's lonely being 801 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: the only um. And it shouldn't be that way. We 802 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: need to have more of our young brothers and sisters 803 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: be given the opportunity not to become dr even to 804 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: be better than Dr Ian. Uh. You know, I'll accept 805 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: that I'm a pioneer in a way, and I but 806 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: my hope is I've paved away for more. I'm not 807 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 1: one of those people who become successful and then don't 808 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: turn around, uh and and not try to help other 809 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: people to get through the gates. I want as many 810 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: of us to get to the gates as possible. And 811 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that in this, in this this time, 812 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: this moment of racial awakening and awareness, that people will 813 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: reevaluate all aspects of our society and look at TV 814 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: and look at the people who we bring on to 815 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: talk about education and law and politics and medicine and 816 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,439 Speaker 1: realize we gotta have diverse voices talking. It just can't 817 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: be the same people all the time. So while I've 818 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: been very blessed to have my platform, and you guys 819 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: invite me always to be on your platforms, there are 820 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: a lot of younger brothers and sisters who can do 821 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: the same thing, and I want them to have a chance. 822 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: As I said to you before the show started, listen, man, 823 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting older. I've been doing this for almost twenty 824 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: five years. This time for me to go out and 825 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 1: play more golf and be with my family. And I 826 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: still write books, but but I want to leave the 827 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: stage and hand it off to somebody else. Um, but 828 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: people who are in charge of who gets on the 829 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: stage need to have the awareness, um and the open 830 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: mindedness to bring others in. And that's that's what's important 831 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: to me, Rashan, is that other people get a chance 832 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 1: to voice. I am not uniquely intelligent. There are other 833 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: intelligent people who have gone to great schools, who have 834 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: great information, who can say the same thing, if not 835 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: saying in a better way than I said. I want 836 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: them to have a voice and have an artist. So 837 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm hoping, um that when people look back on my career, 838 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: they will say not how many bestsellers that I have 839 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: in books, but that they'll say, you know what, dr 840 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: Ian Smith was a pioneer and he opened the doors 841 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: for all these people to be able to come out 842 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: and talk to the world, uh and represent us as 843 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,479 Speaker 1: African Americans and a respectful, proud um and professional manner. Okay, cool, 844 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: you know, as they said, you know you said some 845 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: great things, sir, thank you. You know, you know you know, 846 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,479 Speaker 1: but I gotta I gotta as rebuttle on you. Those 847 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: books that you write are important because you're in African 848 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: American and guess what books are a number one because 849 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: they were bought by black people. So that means that 850 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: you have you have, you have cleared the way as 851 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: a pioneer for people to respect medical advice, die advice, 852 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: life advice from a person that doesn't look like them. 853 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: That's why you're important. That's why I can't push you 854 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: aside as you say, I'm ready to go play golf 855 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: spending got all that. That's what vacations are far Okay, 856 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about We're talking about legacy creates a path. 857 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm talking about when I'm 858 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: in trouble, I need my voice, you know, when I 859 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: was growing up man before the foul cheese and all 860 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: the world. Dr Welby m D you know my man, 861 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: all right, And so these are the things that we 862 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: grow up on. I'm just saying is that you have 863 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: become an institution. And I'm just telling you just slow down, doc, okay, 864 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: and realized be appreciated with what I'm saying about. I 865 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,959 Speaker 1: know you are. I know men, you go way back, 866 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: but twenty five years is just twenty five years now. 867 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: Uh Now, if you come on the show with show 868 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: and come on the show with the Pope barely gray 869 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: Beard and you're looking I'm saying it might be our 870 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: last interview with Dr Smith. He looked back, Can you 871 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: find his twin brothers? Does the twin brother look like 872 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: that twin brothers? We really got problems. But you're not 873 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: doing that. You're stabilizing yourself. And this is why I 874 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: said you can't go away because see now we're battling age. 875 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: Because see what happens is people stop dreaming when they 876 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: hit a certain age. They started fifty Go oh, I 877 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 1: can't do that sixth decade. Go see, I know it's 878 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: seventy eight and eighty. You're still gonna be Dr Ian Smith. 879 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: We might be on book thirty by the end, you 880 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: might be you. You're gonna be on another council. You're 881 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: still telling us the direction and the reason I look 882 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: at you this way, the reason I have to talk 883 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 1: to you is this way. And I know you're gonna 884 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: of a comment about this, and I wanted is that 885 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: the next battle where you at right now is letting 886 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 1: people know age should not define your dream? Am I 887 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: correct about that? Let me tell you something, uh statement 888 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: I came up with recently that I'm starting to like, 889 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: and I say it more and more. Even if you 890 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 1: live to be a hundred. Life is still short. And 891 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: by that I mean is that you're never too old, uh, 892 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: to dream, to chase dreams, to form new dreams. Think 893 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: about it. Life is so short you should spend the 894 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: entirety of your life in the pursuit of fun and 895 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 1: happiness and your dreams. And it's not just about checking 896 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: things off of a list, by the way, because when 897 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: I check some awful lists, I add something else because 898 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 1: that is what keeps me going. You want to you 899 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: want to keep going. So I agree with you that 900 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, as we age, we tend to think, well, 901 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: you know it's a different season of your life. Well, yeah, 902 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: life is seasons. But that does not mean, Rashan, that 903 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: you stop the pursuit, that you stop the dreaming, that 904 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: you stopped looking up at the stars and thinking and 905 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: wondering those things I think are the true texture and 906 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: magic and beauty of our life. Absolutely. Now the book 907 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 1: fast Burn, let's listen now week program in the program 908 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 1: and broken down into the three parts, we're gonna talk 909 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: about ignition, into mission and acceleration. Now, before we go there, 910 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: when you say that the power of negative energy balance, 911 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 1: what exactly does that mean? Yeah, before I explain that. 912 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: Let me just say, two people listening, go to my 913 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: Facebook group. We've got thousand people doing fast burned together. 914 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 1: The Facebook group's name is called fast burn Challenge fast 915 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: Burned Challenge, and if you're not on Facebook, you can 916 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: do it through my Instagram which is at dr Ian 917 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 1: Smith spell the doctor out I A and Smith. Let 918 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: me explain you to the subtitle the power of negative 919 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: energy balance in life. We want positive energy. That's calm 920 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: ex spiritual energy. This is different. This is food energy. 921 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: So food. When we say calories in the food, that's 922 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 1: measurement of food. Energy in the food. Food is energy. 923 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: And so when you eat more calories than you burn 924 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 1: off for sean, you end up having what's called positive 925 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,479 Speaker 1: energy balance. You have more calories than you burned off. 926 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: The body has to do something with that energy. Energy 927 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: just doesn't disappear. That's not how it works. What does 928 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: the body do with that extra energy? It stores it 929 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 1: as fat. Fat is the storage form of energy. Okay, 930 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 1: why do bears uh you know gouge uh sorry, gorge 931 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: on food before winter comes, before hibernation. They do that 932 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: because they're eating, eating, eating, eating, and they're getting fatter 933 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: and fatter and fatter the blubber because they're gonna eat 934 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: that blubber during the winter when their food source is 935 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: very scarce. Well, same thing with our body. Our body 936 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: will take the extra energy and put it as fat. 937 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: Now that's positive energy balance. What you want to be, however, 938 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: is the negative energy value. Then balance just the opposite, 939 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: so and fast burn. You're still gonna have all your 940 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: meals and all your snacks, However, the amount of energy 941 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,479 Speaker 1: you get from them will not be enough to meet 942 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: the demands of your body's energy needs. So your body 943 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: has to find the energy from somewhere. It says, where 944 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: do I go to get energy? Oh, there I go. 945 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: It goes into the fat stores. It takes the fat, 946 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: it melts it or breaks it down, It converts it 947 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: into fuel that your body can use. So when you're 948 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 1: in a negative energy balance state, that is when you 949 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 1: drive into those fat stores and break that fat down. 950 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm fast burned. Not only are people 951 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: losing seen the seventeen pounds on average and nine weeks, 952 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: but they're noticing six seven eight inches gone around their 953 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: mid section because the book is putting them into this 954 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: negative energy balanced state. Now, that's that's great now. But 955 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 1: you broke the book down into three parts, and we 956 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: know it's nine weeks, it's four in one week that 957 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: is the middle week is one, and it's four the 958 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 1: closest eye. It's called ignition, intermission, and acceleration. Why are 959 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: these keywords in the whole process of the nine week 960 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 1: diet program. Well, because the idea is imagining the analogy 961 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: of a car. So the first four weeks are the ignition. 962 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: You're just starting, you're just getting going, and so people 963 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: slowly make changes. Remember this is not about being a diet. 964 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: This is about teaching you lifestyle changes. So people for 965 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: the first four weeks are just learning how to eat differently, 966 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: how to move differently. So it slowly takes you in 967 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 1: there so that it sticks. When you do things too 968 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: fast and too dramatic, people tend not to hold onto it. 969 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,919 Speaker 1: But I slowly do it for the first four weeks, 970 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: and by the way, people lose about of their total 971 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: weight loss for the nine weeks in those first four weeks. 972 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: Right then, the middle is intermission. It is what it says, 973 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: it's a break. You take a week, you relax a 974 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 1: little bit, reassess where things are, try to put into 975 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: practice some things you've learned over the first four weeks, 976 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,320 Speaker 1: and you're good to go. Now the last four weeks 977 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: is acceleration, pedal to the metal. That's we're really driving 978 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: into our fat stores, really melting that fat, really losing 979 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 1: the weight, really getting into that that nice sculpted look, 980 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 1: that change in appearance and the change and how we 981 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: feel situation, and so that's what the acceleration is. Those 982 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 1: are the nine weeks. If you hit your target, you 983 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 1: put the book up, and now you learn how to 984 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: make the right decisions. If you haven't hit your target, 985 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 1: you do another cycle until you need to get until 986 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: you've gotten all the way off that you wanted. But 987 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: that is how the built the book is built. Well, 988 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: this is your twenty book. I just gotta ask this question, 989 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: what have you learned in each book? Because each point 990 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: has a different take, a different chemical makeup, of different 991 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: reason why you're attacking. They're never the same book. I 992 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: can attest to that they all have a different scope 993 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: of knowledge that you're providing us about our bodies. What 994 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: have you learned from from book to book? This book, 995 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: I learned that number one, that people are able to 996 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: do different types of intermittent fasting, that even though the 997 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: science may say that time restricted feeding is the best 998 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,760 Speaker 1: type of intimat and fasting for results, that that doesn't 999 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: work for everyone. Everyone can't necessarily follow that plan. That's 1000 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,760 Speaker 1: why I use the five two method in the book. Also, 1001 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: so I learned that people need to choose an intimitt 1002 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: and fasting strategy that works for best with them. The 1003 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: other thing I learned is that you actually can keep 1004 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: into a program some of them. I wouldn't call them 1005 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: cheap foods, but some of the fun foods that people enjoy. 1006 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,359 Speaker 1: You can still keep them in a program, but keep 1007 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 1: them in a way that people do not feel deprived, 1008 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: but they also are not over indulging, and you can 1009 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 1: still help them lose weight with the whole process of 1010 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: this just a little little little publicity here. I know 1011 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 1: you said the word listening. Now I'm now on in television. 1012 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: I have my own network that I'm own in Atlanta, Georgia. 1013 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: So hopefully I get more sales for years on the 1014 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: A I B TV two million homes in northern Georgia. 1015 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,359 Speaker 1: And so I just love the fact that I'm talking 1016 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: to a friend and I tease you when you talk 1017 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: about that old talk. I get tired. You know, man, 1018 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna be interviewing each other and helping each other, 1019 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 1: supporting each other because when I talk to you, man, 1020 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: and and we both have seen our journeys and and 1021 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,439 Speaker 1: I just smile when I see your journey every time, 1022 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: because it's tied to hard work. And I just like 1023 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: for you to close and to everybody know that you know, 1024 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 1: we all have dreams. And all this seemed like you 1025 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: were saying there are other dr Ian Smith's out there, 1026 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: but guess what, there's only one dr Ian Smith. And 1027 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: that's what allows me to say that you are a 1028 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: blessing and you have to continue to win. With that 1029 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 1: being said, what are your closing thoughts? My closing thoughts 1030 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: are very simple. That life is very fragile and very precious, 1031 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 1: and when you value life your own, that means you 1032 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: automatically value the life of others. That we have to 1033 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 1: live and and comport ourselves in a way where we're 1034 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 1: respectful to our other lives and to the environment. But 1035 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: also that we are always chasing. We're chasing to be better, 1036 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 1: we're chasing to be happy, we're chasing to fulfill our dreams. 1037 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: When you have that type of drive in your life. 1038 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: Every day you get up like I do, and you 1039 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: say to yourself, I'm gonna squeeze the most out of 1040 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 1: this day because tomorrow is not promised to any of us. 1041 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: So I thank you for being your friend. I thank 1042 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: you for always having me on your show, and I 1043 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: encourage others out there who I may never meet, that 1044 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: you can do it too. Absolutely. Thank you Dr Dean 1045 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: Smith for coming in my book on my show fast Burn, 1046 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: The Power of negative energy balance right now. Get it 1047 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: right now, not just because I'm saying it, because it's 1048 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: gonna change your life. And I'll tell you five pounds. 1049 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: When you said the word sculpture, I thought about myself 1050 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: because I saw something a little real cage like I 1051 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,520 Speaker 1: kind of saw the kid dog. I saw it in 1052 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 1: my old age. Okay, so life is good man. You'd 1053 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: be safe out there, Okay, you have time before a 1054 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: T and fiber internet. What what are you doing in 1055 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: the dungeon. It's the only place where the bloody WiFi 1056 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: wax and you don't mind the spiders. Spiders, let's fighters 1057 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 1: everywhere in the time after a D and T fiber Internet, 1058 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 1: it's nice having fast reliable WiFi in the whole house 1059 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: for sure. The dawn of a better Internet era with 1060 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,240 Speaker 1: a TNT fiber limited availability and select areas. Check eligibility 1061 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: at a dot com slash get Fiber. A T and 1062 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 1: T smart WiFi extenders may be required sold separately. Restrictions apply. 1063 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: And we're live here outside the Perez family home, just 1064 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,240 Speaker 1: waiting for the And there they go, almost on time. 1065 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: This morning. Mom is coming out the front door strong 1066 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: with a double arm kid carry. Looks like dad has 1067 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 1: the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh, but 1068 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 1: the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. 1069 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: Oh but mom has just nailed the perfect car seat 1070 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,879 Speaker 1: buckle for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, who 1071 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: looks to be about nine or ten, has secured herself 1072 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 1: in the booster seat. Dead SIPs the bad clothes and 1073 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 1: they're off. But looks like Mom doesn't realize her coffee 1074 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: cup is still on the roof of the car. And 1075 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: there it goes. Oh, that's a shame that mud was 1076 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,959 Speaker 1: a fan favorite. Don't sweat the small stuff, just nailed 1077 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: the big stuff, like making sure your kids are buckled 1078 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 1: correctly in the right seat for their agent's eyes. Learn 1079 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 1: more n h t s A dot gov slash the 1080 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: Right Seat visits n s A dot gov slash The 1081 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 1: Right Seat, brought to you by NITZA and the AD Council. 1082 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: What grows in the forest trees? Sure you know what 1083 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: else grows in the forest, Our imagination, our sense of wonder, 1084 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: and our family bonds grow too, because when we disconnect 1085 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:52,919 Speaker 1: from this and connect with this, we reconnect with each other. 1086 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 1: The forest is closer than you think. Find a forest 1087 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: near you and start exploring. I Discover the Forest dot 1088 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 1: work brought to you by the United States Forest Service 1089 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 1: and the AD Council. My next cast is all about that, 1090 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 1: watching living the dream, watching him grow and I was 1091 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: so excited. And when they first booked him on the show, 1092 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 1: on this new show Flatbush Misdemeanor, this Aaron on Showtime, 1093 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: I said, no, no, no, no no. I got to 1094 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: see the episode before I interview him, Lord and Mercy. 1095 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I wait, I'm glad I pushed forward before 1096 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: he is breaking out funny. But see, here's the cool thing, 1097 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: because I gotta give his credit, because I just want 1098 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: to give him from love before we get started. Because 1099 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: his name is Hassan Johnson. Hassan has been seen in 1100 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: many rows from the Wire Brooklyn Finals. Now hear what 1101 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying that that has nothing to do with funny 1102 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: them two roles, That has nothing to do with being 1103 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 1: a comedian. He recently wrapped a recurrent role and they 1104 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: hit ABC Drama for Life. No comedy there, Okay, just 1105 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: setting you up for where we're going with this journey 1106 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 1: with her soup. But he's recently seen in the comedic Chops. Okay, 1107 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: Tracy Morgan in the Last o g You might have 1108 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: saw him in Top Five, Okay. Now he's in this 1109 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: new show Bush mis Demeanor, which premiers May twenty three 1110 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 1: at ten thirty pm on Eastern Standard Time and Pacific 1111 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: on Showtime. You know his characters. Drew a bold, direct 1112 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: man who's extremely protective of his loved one, in particularly 1113 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: his niece. His demand is coming comflict with his livelihood 1114 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: of both Kevin and my man. Damn them two brothers. 1115 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: They lead character, they wrote it, they directed, the executive produced. 1116 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 1: The whole series are fantastic. Please work with the money. 1117 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 1: Make conversation for the first time, the very funny I'm 1118 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 1: gonna say y'all, the very funny and talented Hassan Johnson. 1119 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: How you knowing? Man? They were introduction, Thank you, ras Sean. 1120 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad they definitely showed you the episode first. Man, 1121 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, the bony says, because you know, I wanted 1122 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: to book you too. That's awesome my part, And I 1123 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 1: went hold on, he got a new show, because you know, 1124 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: because I hate coming on there talking about something I 1125 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: don't know nothing about, and you know it would be 1126 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: just a lot of air hot air getting blown around. 1127 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 1: I understand. Yeah, and also I respected do theyn't want 1128 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 1: me coming on the show, just revealing the pilot and 1129 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: don't matter nobody watches. Well, let mena tell you all this. 1130 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,919 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk in like you know, in evergreen term 1131 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: generic terms about the pilot. But the pilot his historical 1132 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 1: and this boy right here, this ball right here I'm 1133 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: talking to right here is uh. He played. He stayed 1134 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: in the little genre little thug, look thugg, you know, 1135 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 1: but boy he funny. Man talk about man, Let's talk 1136 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: about the series, and then we're gonna go back to 1137 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 1: when I first encountered you on the wire. And it's 1138 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: been a journeyman long journey of excellent opportunities. But you 1139 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 1: can get, like it says, stereotyped into certain roles and 1140 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: we won't talk about you coming out of that and 1141 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: and just being uh, just super funny. I'm hoping this 1142 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: is the character that you're doing. It becomes a hit series, 1143 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: so you can really really show people your range. Talk 1144 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: about flash bush misdemeanor and your character Drew, well, she 1145 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: drew Uncle Drew, as you'll get to know, he is 1146 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: the uncle to the little girls Ain't and not so 1147 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: little girl Roxana on the show because she had a 1148 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 1: mean punch boy. So anyway, Uncle Drew brings, I like 1149 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 1: to say, this balance to an array of this like 1150 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 1: dysfunctional characters, right because then while he's so overprotective of Zana, 1151 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,919 Speaker 1: he's this tough guy that's put this sent to tough god, 1152 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 1: mean god. He here is a fairness in him that 1153 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: that we're gonna explore that, you know what I'm saying. 1154 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: And he encounters Kevin again and they start to appreciate 1155 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: the fairness that is who who Drew is. But he 1156 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: brings this this balance to this dysfunction and then vary 1157 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 1: lies his own dysfunction because he's so over protective of Zana, 1158 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 1: and he's about his education, as you'll get to discover why. Well, 1159 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, the beauty of the characters is written by 1160 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: Kevin and Dan. You know it really uh, it's it's 1161 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 1: a it's it's shot a certain way. The comedy is real. 1162 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: You know if they say street like what they say 1163 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the N word, you know they write they go there 1164 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 1: with the with the with the regular vernacular, you know, 1165 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: sagging pains all it's the look of the streets. And 1166 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: it's enjoyable because of the fact that I was not 1167 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 1: offended by anything I saw. I felt it was some 1168 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 1: of the things were very relatable. But then the characters. 1169 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: You love the characters and you're engaged by the realness 1170 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: of it. Now your characters real. Now let's talk about 1171 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 1: you know that the character Drew Uncle Drew. Now I 1172 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 1: it was as a scene and it kind of reminded 1173 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: me and training day. You know, it's a training date moment. 1174 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Remember when he was about to do homeboard bad in 1175 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: the in the in the bathtub, and then it came 1176 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 1: around and found out he saved my niece. That was 1177 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: a train You're a good one, Rashawn. So I'm really 1178 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: glad watching because in the moment in time and on 1179 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 1: the day up, I'm not even understanding or putting the 1180 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 1: correlation with that scene with that that's exactly what that was. 1181 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 1: That was training down. But I guess what, I wasn't 1182 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 1: mad at it because I was like, we're doing a 1183 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: comedy here and it was a face and it wasn't 1184 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: such an a parody where you like you just understood, 1185 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 1: like you know what, that's the same you saw the 1186 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 1: parallel order because because believe me, it wasn't funny. It 1187 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: wasn't even close to being funny. And training day, but yeah, 1188 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 1: here it was funny. I was I was followed out 1189 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: my chair. I was going, this boy food, this is ignorant. 1190 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Then you then your other boy. All he do is 1191 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 1: play video game in the right and then the other 1192 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 1: boy he just opened the door, laid anybody in, you knowebody. 1193 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 1: So so you you got your niece in there, she 1194 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 1: popping boomerang photos on and you get to the theater. 1195 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Bout it? Man? Is that this is just that setting 1196 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: because Kevin is a delivery man. Dane is a school teacher, 1197 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: if you want to call it. Because Kevin ain't really 1198 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: a good delivery man and Dad is not really a 1199 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 1: good school teacher. He ain't neither one of them, right 1200 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,919 Speaker 1: and so and so that's what we have been laughing about. 1201 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,720 Speaker 1: This series that premiers on Showtime. It's called Flatbush. Mr 1202 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Meet Him starts my Man. I would say, stars my 1203 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 1: man my Son Johnson, because he's a pivovogual character, because 1204 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 1: he's a community character. He's in the neighborhood. He's that 1205 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 1: guy that you know if he walks by you, by you, 1206 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, you probably clutch your bag, if you if 1207 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 1: you goes by your car door, you're probably push press 1208 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: lock on your door. You know you're going this door. 1209 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 1: You might see him and went back back out the door, 1210 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 1: you know. But all those things because you got that 1211 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: look man. But in the end, you have a heart. 1212 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 1: So when you get the main thing, he has a heart. 1213 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 1: Like I said, there's a level of fann this that 1214 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 1: comes with Uncle Drew. You what you see is what 1215 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 1: you get. You know, he wears hard on his sleeve. 1216 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get no b as. You ain't gonna 1217 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,919 Speaker 1: sugar coat and water nothing down for you. And that's 1218 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 1: what you could appreciate. And that's what you see. The 1219 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: characters Dan and Kevin, they start to appreciate that. I 1220 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 1: think about Drew more than anything because everything and everywhere 1221 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: else and so if he had wish washy and they're surroundings, 1222 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 1: they're so uncertain that these uncertain characters that they could 1223 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 1: appreciate that Drew is. So, you know, just add of me. Well, 1224 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 1: I think I think let's let's just be real about 1225 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 1: that character, because good writing has a way of telling 1226 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 1: a person's role, and your role is about rules. You know. 1227 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 1: It's like we all have rules. You know, Like I said, somebody, 1228 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 1: the speeding of it might be thirty five miles now 1229 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 1: you drive forward it, but it's thirty five miles now, 1230 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 1: and that's you. You know what I'm saying, if you 1231 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: make a mistake, you hold people accountable for that mistake 1232 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 1: based on Drew Uncle Drew's rules. You know what I'm saying. 1233 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 1: If you respect the rules, you're gonna walk out of 1234 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: the house a lot. Respect the rule. You might walk 1235 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 1: out of the house he kind of alive, but you're 1236 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 1: gonna remember you broke that rule right exactly. There you go. 1237 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a learning lesson and that's what I 1238 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 1: love about it. So but then again, we talked a 1239 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,440 Speaker 1: little bit off air before we got on there, because 1240 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 1: you can stereotype, you know, people, people see your photo. 1241 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna play a thug. Oh, he gonna play a criminal, 1242 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 1: or he could play this and you know, and I 1243 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 1: first fell in love with your acting man way back 1244 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 1: on the Wire, which was to the phenomenal when you 1245 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 1: look at all the people, man, they were casting that serious. 1246 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 1: Oh y'all working, Oh y'all doing big things. Man, through 1247 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 1: the grace of God. That's right though, you know what 1248 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so you said, why with that serious, 1249 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 1: so brilliant the cast? You Now you get to understand 1250 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 1: why that see, because that's the favorite some When we 1251 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: were shooting the Wire, we don't know we're making history, 1252 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: not not not not you. I swear to God, any 1253 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 1: one of us telling you that we knew that show 1254 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 1: was gonna be a hind, we'd be talking about it 1255 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 1: double the time later than it was on. Right, you 1256 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: couldn't have pay no no one. I'd say they delned 1257 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 1: if they said that they knew that. We didn't know. 1258 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean that it was the writing 1259 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 1: that cast. Now you start to understand, as everyone's careers 1260 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 1: BLOSSLM and came into fruition that no wonder that that 1261 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 1: was such a great show. Absolutely, they're your character with 1262 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 1: way Bay Bay. Hey, he's steal in my mind, here's 1263 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 1: two characters states in my mind, you know, Stringer Bell 1264 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 1: and we baby alright, alright string strange. But when he 1265 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 1: got killed, I was hurt. I said, oh no, he 1266 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: I know he went out like oh. So when you 1267 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: look at that, that that was that was really your 1268 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 1: first really consistent acting role, you know, like sure, yes, 1269 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 1: that was my first recurring role on the television show 1270 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 1: for sure. Everything else before that was either a one 1271 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: off in the film, you know, like a co star 1272 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:40,160 Speaker 1: role or a co star epsiody. Right, So let's let's 1273 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 1: talk about that. When you when you get that opportunity 1274 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,919 Speaker 1: and you finally because you work hard for these opportunities, 1275 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 1: and then you trying to get that regular check and 1276 01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, like and and so you're on all these 1277 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: challenges people because all you guys were young stars at 1278 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 1: the time, young young up and comers. I'm gonna say 1279 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 1: that word up in conners because we can turn any 1280 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:02,560 Speaker 1: streaming network, any movie, any network television show, and one 1281 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 1: of you guys are on it what I'm saying, and 1282 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 1: some of them two or three y'all in the same series. Yeah, 1283 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 1: let's not play with you. I mean, I don't just 1284 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 1: popped up in a few shows or you know, movies 1285 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,800 Speaker 1: with my fellow cast meet from the show. Yeah, we 1286 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 1: don't go on skate now. So so with that being said, 1287 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 1: what were your thoughts man when you when you when 1288 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,560 Speaker 1: you were brought on the Wire? Was it just a 1289 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,840 Speaker 1: paycheck or was it just hey man? Finally and finally 1290 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 1: seeing my craft being appreciated, my skills being appreciated to 1291 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 1: talk to us about that. I think it was a 1292 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 1: mixture of both, but overall and ultimately it was my 1293 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 1: my my craft being appreciated because I remember audition and right, 1294 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 1: auditioning for the Wire was pre notin eleven. Then we 1295 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,640 Speaker 1: shot potion on the Levin. So you gotta understand that 1296 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 1: a lot goes on in between the time that it 1297 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 1: was first very introduced to me and then it came 1298 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:59,639 Speaker 1: into reality, right because the world stopped. The world stopped 1299 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 1: in the between that time and then resumed again, and 1300 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 1: I had to come back with that energy. So when 1301 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 1: I got the call back, I'm like, why, I almost 1302 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 1: didn't even remember what it was, but Sham like, oh 1303 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,839 Speaker 1: that show, Okay, let's go. I got got back you focused. 1304 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 1: I went out there Alexa Photos Office, our audition. I 1305 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 1: remember now in the middle of the audition, I'm doing 1306 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 1: my thing right, and the creator it was David Simon 1307 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,640 Speaker 1: in there, and then it was Clauk Johnson, who was 1308 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 1: one of the director for the pilot and a few 1309 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,599 Speaker 1: of the first season episodes, you know from Comic Side, 1310 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,640 Speaker 1: Life on the Street, Cluk Johnson, O g pick up 1311 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 1: the Clark john One of them leaned over to the 1312 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 1: other one in the audition, Rashawn, and said, we bay. 1313 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 1: So that's when that was my first inclination of something 1314 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 1: like tangible, because I'm auditioning for the edgel over by 1315 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 1: the way, right, So I don't know if anybody could 1316 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 1: even imagine that, because Larry Gilliat did such a phenomenal job. 1317 01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 1: When that that, who could imagine me playing the edge 1318 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 1: lower him doing you know what I'm saying. So when 1319 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 1: they said that, I kind of lost my beat for 1320 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 1: a minute, but then I got back on. I finished up, 1321 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: but that lingered on with me for some reason until 1322 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,439 Speaker 1: I got that call from my agent that I booked it, 1323 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: like who is this we make Chacal And then even 1324 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 1: then I still didn't know because they said, oh, we 1325 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 1: made here. He'll be around for two or three episodes 1326 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: and you already know the rent. You know, let's let's 1327 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 1: talk about you man, because really, you know, bringing on 1328 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: the show man because a lot of times, you know, uh, 1329 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 1: you do interviews, they don't give a chance to tell 1330 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 1: your story, get to tell the journey. And this is 1331 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,760 Speaker 1: about my many conversations about that journey because so many 1332 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 1: people need to hear that. You know, like I said, 1333 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,840 Speaker 1: you took something that was short and then you turned 1334 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 1: it into a career. And that's really what's happening because 1335 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 1: you you know, it's like it's like a good Like 1336 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 1: let's gonna say that Chicago Bulls. If you made the 1337 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,560 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls, guess when you're a champion, all right, you 1338 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 1: we look at it back now, we didn't really guys, 1339 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: you know the last dance shoulders the greatness of the 1340 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls run. Now when we look back at the y, 1341 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: you we go, wow, look at all those people who 1342 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,559 Speaker 1: came out of the wire. So really, when you look 1343 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 1: at her, sorry, you were being pushed by the best 1344 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 1: every day. Talk to us about that's a that's a 1345 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 1: that that's surrounding. Talk about that the rehearsals, talk about 1346 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 1: the you know, being pushed and being mentored as well 1347 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,280 Speaker 1: to be your best during that time. I mean, Shaan, 1348 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 1: one of the greatest experiences of my life. We're talked 1349 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: about when du piss Son, your son Lance Reddy, Claude Peters. 1350 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it keeps going with Joe John Done, Maan uh, 1351 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Andre boy, your Michael K. Williams. You know what I'm saying. 1352 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,400 Speaker 1: It's just it's just it goes down the rabbit hole 1353 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 1: so crazy. And then whether you knew who those people 1354 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,639 Speaker 1: were or not, by the end of the day's rat 1355 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 1: you knew who they was. You feel what I'm saying 1356 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,560 Speaker 1: to Michael, Kay, well, come on now, if you didn't know, 1357 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 1: now you know. And so that's when I knew I 1358 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,679 Speaker 1: was being brought up with the best. And I said, oh, okay, 1359 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 1: this is this is turning into something. Now I can 1360 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 1: see where this is really going. Now I have a 1361 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 1: career in n Yeah, that uncertainty with you know, being rejected. 1362 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 1: I mean I'm in a line of work where I 1363 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 1: get rejected or a living. People don't really understand what 1364 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 1: that feel like. You go home after these auditions and 1365 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 1: you're not the best man, right right, right, and then 1366 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,479 Speaker 1: because you know that's that's that's that's what it really is, 1367 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 1: because rejection is so high in Hollywood. You know, this 1368 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 1: is just imagine just going on auditions, auditions, auditions, just 1369 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 1: didn't gonna job interviews, job interview, job interviews, and then 1370 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 1: they're just telling you you're not the one based on 1371 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 1: you and you're not the one, and you know you are. 1372 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,560 Speaker 1: But then you gotta eat that. You have to accept that, 1373 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 1: dig down, regroup, re van, and say I'm gonna come 1374 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 1: out and do better. Like listen, for instance, I'm gonna 1375 01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 1: tell you this is what happened for me. This is 1376 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:04,040 Speaker 1: how I learned the code with this rejection. I figured 1377 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 1: it like this, the more auditions you're going on, the 1378 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 1: better your chances you're booking something. Right, So as long 1379 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,479 Speaker 1: as you're going on auditions, you're working, you're shopping in 1380 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 1: your blade, you're getting better, trust me, right, and then 1381 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 1: and then it's supposed to be fun. But then when 1382 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,160 Speaker 1: you don't get the job, I mean, you know, there's 1383 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,560 Speaker 1: no gratification and you're like, what's so fun about that? 1384 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 1: But what this is what I did for myself. I 1385 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 1: built the system up that for every ten auditions, I'm 1386 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 1: gonna get one, that one that temper sent ratio out 1387 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,720 Speaker 1: of ten, I'm gonna get one. I was able to 1388 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 1: live and come to grips and terms with that. And 1389 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 1: it was happening every eight, every six, and then lower 1390 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 1: and lower and lower. Every other audition I book a roll. 1391 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 1: And then that's when you start to you elevate in 1392 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 1: your mind, and then you start to believe in yourself 1393 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 1: because it's a relief system you got. You have to 1394 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 1: have to keep going. Wow. So how did you get 1395 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 1: into acting? Let's get that outfre let's hear the fans 1396 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 1: here about that. How did how did her Son Johnson 1397 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 1: get into actor? Oh Man? All praise due to Spike Lee, 1398 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:10,679 Speaker 1: Lord and save your spight Lee. He had an open 1399 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:15,320 Speaker 1: call for a movie called Clockers, and a girl at 1400 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,360 Speaker 1: school dared me to go to the open audition because 1401 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: I was just this like boisterous young boy. I played ball. 1402 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I played football. I thought I was gonna be a 1403 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 1: ball up and I was pretty smart, you know. I 1404 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 1: was in the academic classes like the student athlete whatnot. 1405 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 1: And everybody tried to get me to be more proactive 1406 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 1: with the academic stuff, you know, the glee club, the 1407 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,280 Speaker 1: African Culture Club, the math club. I didn't want to 1408 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,320 Speaker 1: do it. I just wanted to play ball, and you 1409 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,400 Speaker 1: know that's it. So she did me because I always 1410 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 1: said I wanted to be on television. Oh well, why 1411 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 1: don't you go to this Spike Lee ordition, Mr, I 1412 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,720 Speaker 1: want to be on TV? And dared me in front 1413 01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,760 Speaker 1: of like the whole lunch room. Right, I'm holding court 1414 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,000 Speaker 1: at lunch doing what I do, and she dared me 1415 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,200 Speaker 1: in front. So I did one of those. I right, 1416 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: who's going with me? And then everybody did one of these? 1417 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,760 Speaker 1: He and I went. It was like a dare I went. 1418 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 1: I got up that Saturday. It was poured down rain 1419 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 1: and it was in Hall and at the school he 1420 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 1: had at a public school in Hall, and I went 1421 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,160 Speaker 1: up theory Sean and the rest is history. I went 1422 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,680 Speaker 1: to one audition, turning the seven callbacks, and I got 1423 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 1: a principal role in Spike Lee film thirty million dollar 1424 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,920 Speaker 1: Budget out the Gate, Love it, Love it now. Now 1425 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,720 Speaker 1: we're making the transition top five. You know that that 1426 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,080 Speaker 1: I think Top five was the first time I saw 1427 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,439 Speaker 1: you in funny scenario, you know what I'm saying, But 1428 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,000 Speaker 1: you yeah, I'll say that was the first. It might 1429 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 1: be something we're missing before that, but let's just say that, 1430 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, this is Rashawn's career path for HASA. You 1431 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm tracking you, tracking you know. 1432 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 1: So top five, Top five was was the one for me. 1433 01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 1: Just started looking at you because because I always, like 1434 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, I've been fortunate in Hollywood, the cast a 1435 01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,360 Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, to see African American talent 1436 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,679 Speaker 1: get pigeonhole. And when I saw you in Top five, 1437 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 1: but you were still being yourself but the but to 1438 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:09,439 Speaker 1: spin on your words funny, I said, this guy is funny. 1439 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 1: So talk about that experience, and then we're gonna go 1440 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,400 Speaker 1: to the Last o G with Tracy and Tiffany Hatters, 1441 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,040 Speaker 1: where you really started showing your comedy chops right and 1442 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,679 Speaker 1: and and and Top five birth met even being able 1443 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,920 Speaker 1: to have an opportunity and a shot to get on 1444 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,240 Speaker 1: Last o G with Tracy Activity, which was a blessing 1445 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 1: as well. But it all started with you know, me 1446 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,680 Speaker 1: telling my uh my manager, Adam Adam Robinson like, you know, 1447 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,560 Speaker 1: I gotta get out of this this pigeonhole that seemingly 1448 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 1: a pigeon hole, it's not quite one. Because Adam used 1449 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 1: to always say, how's tign Come on? Now, if you 1450 01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,200 Speaker 1: do something good, that's what they call you for your 1451 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 1: great at what you do. That's not your fault. You 1452 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,040 Speaker 1: can't beat yourself down about that. So if it's time 1453 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 1: to be the thug and this, you know, depending on 1454 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 1: what's going on and what the criteria is, then go 1455 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 1: out and be the best damn thug you can be. 1456 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,599 Speaker 1: Ain't nothing wrong with it. And then um, I said, 1457 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 1: you all right, until we get to that bridge and 1458 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 1: we could cross that bridge into the light of heart 1459 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 1: and funny stuff, that's what we're gonna do. So what 1460 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,879 Speaker 1: happens is when Top five comes along, it's this character 1461 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 1: that's kind of just played meant to play, be played 1462 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,240 Speaker 1: straight and and and in the world of all these 1463 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,640 Speaker 1: comedians and funny people, naturally funny people, because you know, 1464 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,280 Speaker 1: when Jay Farrell talk, he's just funny. But Sherry Sfard talk, 1465 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,679 Speaker 1: she's just funny. When Trades we talk, that just funny. 1466 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,560 Speaker 1: You know, Chris, when they talk, they're just funny. The 1467 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 1: tonality that Dick Chance delivery is just funny. So they 1468 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,439 Speaker 1: ain't gotta do much because they're established, you know that. 1469 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 1: But then here I go. So I'm not gonna go 1470 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,320 Speaker 1: above and beyond either my best My best bet is 1471 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,400 Speaker 1: to stand my lane and go straight. And that's what 1472 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,240 Speaker 1: I did because I was fortunate enough to get I 1473 01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,599 Speaker 1: was privy to some info and their casting process that's 1474 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 1: at hospital. Will say no names, but it was a 1475 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,400 Speaker 1: couple of dudes came through here, a few heavy heaters. 1476 01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't giving it up like you was doing it. 1477 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,040 Speaker 1: We're just gonna leave it at that right, right, right, 1478 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:08,040 Speaker 1: And it was understood. Don't got to be explained, right absolutely, 1479 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,720 Speaker 1: And that's what we're talking about. Over tell you a 1480 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,120 Speaker 1: couple of things about your manager, your managers, right, and 1481 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,200 Speaker 1: you were right, because if you don't fight for change, Hussan, 1482 01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:21,799 Speaker 1: then people will settle for what you get. And by fighting, 1483 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, let's talking what we're talking to. Anybody who's 1484 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,759 Speaker 1: watching the show and listen to the show. Your brand, 1485 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 1: because you have a brand and you fought for you know, 1486 01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm not satisfied. It's like you know, it's like just 1487 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:33,840 Speaker 1: because you have a nice house, why can't you ask 1488 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 1: for a bigger house, a better car, or more groceries 1489 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,560 Speaker 1: in the refrigerator. People like, well you got food in refrigerator. 1490 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 1: I want more. And that's how I want more, right, 1491 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 1: I'm not content? And and so that push enabled this 1492 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,560 Speaker 1: conversation we're having right now because when you got on 1493 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 1: to the last O g and like I said, man, 1494 01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,760 Speaker 1: you know I really went he funny man. But I'm 1495 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,920 Speaker 1: gonna just tell you about your funny Hussan. You know, 1496 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,840 Speaker 1: like you said, you may you know Sherried Shepherd, Tracy Ferrell, 1497 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,919 Speaker 1: you mentioned, of course Chris Rock. They have built a legacy. 1498 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 1: There's like I always tell people, stand up comedy just 1499 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,720 Speaker 1: like math. If you know what too plus two equals four, 1500 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 1: then you know how to get there. Your style of 1501 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 1: comedy is that you're just natural, but you don't even 1502 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,479 Speaker 1: understand you funny. And I think that's you know what 1503 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's the gift because all those people have 1504 01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 1: walked on stage in front of hundreds of thousands of 1505 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,479 Speaker 1: people and made them lad. And so you are just 1506 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 1: one of those guys who just naturally funny. If you 1507 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,280 Speaker 1: get around your family, you crack them up. I don't 1508 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,439 Speaker 1: give it you your family go yico you. But see 1509 01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 1: what a comedian has done. He's taking his funny from 1510 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,800 Speaker 1: in front of his family to strangers. And so because 1511 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,080 Speaker 1: you've not done that, it questions your ability for Brother. 1512 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 1: In the last o g that stepped you up, and 1513 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 1: then you went back to the life for life on ABC. 1514 01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 1: Nice check wasn't supposed to be funny. You're supposed to 1515 01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,080 Speaker 1: be who you supposed to be incarcerated. Then in in 1516 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,559 Speaker 1: your mind, you set these templates, templates or being able 1517 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,320 Speaker 1: to do something more than just be a stereotypical black thug. 1518 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 1: The Flatbush Mrmeanor comes along. Tell us about that whole process. 1519 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,960 Speaker 1: I know we talked about it earlier, but I gotta 1520 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,760 Speaker 1: close the show because brother, I can't. I can't wait 1521 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 1: to epio. So this is what it is. The Sean This, 1522 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:26,960 Speaker 1: like you said earlier, this is the most tangible opportunity 1523 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,800 Speaker 1: to really show my range because then you're gonna see 1524 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about the first episode you got 1525 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:38,439 Speaker 1: eight nine more to you got eight nine more and 1526 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 1: they let me go. Man, I'm telling you Kevin and 1527 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,599 Speaker 1: Dan Man that the two the greatest guys around right 1528 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,160 Speaker 1: now that they are soon to leave a deep footprint 1529 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,920 Speaker 1: in this game. I'm telling you what this one and 1530 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,320 Speaker 1: it's all there for you. And they and they really 1531 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,960 Speaker 1: let me go. They just let me go like how 1532 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,640 Speaker 1: they tell a box and let your hands go right right, right, 1533 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,800 Speaker 1: right right. Yeah, that's the that's the best analyty with 1534 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,880 Speaker 1: this character I could come up with. You guys are 1535 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna be in for it's a roller co There's so 1536 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 1: much emotion because you see here you talking about this, 1537 01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 1: this comedic stuff, this funny stuff. But then you're gonna 1538 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,880 Speaker 1: be so emotional, you're gonna be stressed out a little bit, 1539 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 1: right well, you know the thing about it, but in 1540 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,439 Speaker 1: a in a good way. Because Kevin's life is stressed. 1541 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:26,680 Speaker 1: Its stressed because and he's relatable. Here's a guy that 1542 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 1: their lives are not moving forward, y'all. I'm gonna be 1543 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 1: honest with Their lives are in a stand still. They 1544 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,639 Speaker 1: got jobs that don't have career opportunities. They don't even 1545 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 1: see the career in the opportunity. All they are trying 1546 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,000 Speaker 1: to do is get by. And I think we know 1547 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are just trying to get by. 1548 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,160 Speaker 1: That's why their characters are relatable. But what happens is 1549 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 1: when they try to move ahead and they start making mistakes, 1550 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 1: and that's when they wrote the mistakes start to come in. 1551 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:55,040 Speaker 1: That makes you so humanizes everything because the way and 1552 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,200 Speaker 1: I I can say this, the way Kevin encounters Uncle 1553 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,320 Speaker 1: Drew as a delivery and when he comes into his place, 1554 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 1: he makes a mistake, the consequences of that mistake drives 1555 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:12,840 Speaker 1: the first episode and the long term relationship. Am I right? Yes, 1556 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 1: it does that one mistake And you know, I always say, 1557 01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,400 Speaker 1: Rashaan in real life, I always tell people you can't 1558 01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:23,360 Speaker 1: be upset about what is and what's not at the 1559 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,120 Speaker 1: moment in time, because what you have to realize is 1560 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:30,599 Speaker 1: every decision you made from out the wound to this day, 1561 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:36,559 Speaker 1: right now and in may, is that every direct decision 1562 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,519 Speaker 1: led you the way you are wherever you're currently happy, sad, 1563 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:45,200 Speaker 1: whatever the case says, right, et cetera. Every decision you 1564 01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 1: may lead you up to right now. And guess what 1565 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:52,400 Speaker 1: is a beautiful right now? He's I'm telling man. The 1566 01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:56,120 Speaker 1: blessing in this interview, man was that I'm always been 1567 01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,560 Speaker 1: a fan of Hussal. I've always been a fan. And 1568 01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,680 Speaker 1: then and then going to no time to say, I 1569 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,479 Speaker 1: want to interview up Bar, but I gotta see the pilot. 1570 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:08,120 Speaker 1: I saw the pilot, man, I am recommended. I'm mad 1571 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 1: because it's several weeks away before it premieres, so no listen. 1572 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,479 Speaker 1: But you made my whole month the rest of my 1573 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,160 Speaker 1: year is Sean, because you know, we we don't know 1574 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,719 Speaker 1: what we're in for, so you're telling me it's rest 1575 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:24,680 Speaker 1: assurance that we're doing something right. I'm changing herself. I 1576 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:26,280 Speaker 1: I you know, I ain't got time to be lying 1577 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:30,120 Speaker 1: to you, Okay, brother yo, I'm just saying like that. 1578 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,080 Speaker 1: It's funny. Okay, they are straight funny man and you 1579 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,240 Speaker 1: and you deliver it on a high level of opportunity 1580 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 1: because you're a regular guy. Man started out on a dare, 1581 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,000 Speaker 1: but you saw it through. And that's what people understand 1582 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 1: is that is that whether you see it through. You know, 1583 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,400 Speaker 1: if people tell you or challenge you, then don't don't 1584 01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,200 Speaker 1: don't cower down to the challenge. See it through and 1585 01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 1: see what the opportunity barrass itself. And that's what's half 1586 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,080 Speaker 1: the battle. I gotta show up. But my man, I 1587 01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming on money and make covers. Hassan. 1588 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:06,680 Speaker 1: You know, thanks having We're gonna chante back. You know, 1589 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,720 Speaker 1: I gotta come back to you. Flatfish Mdemeanor premiers May third, 1590 01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 1: ten thirty Eastern Pacific time on Showtime. Oh Man Hassan 1591 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,560 Speaker 1: Johnson plays Uncle Drew again. There's no character like it 1592 01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,840 Speaker 1: on TV right now. He's gonna change the game and 1593 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,360 Speaker 1: they do what. I think. That's an Emmy that's an 1594 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,040 Speaker 1: Emmy winning character. You I'm not even gonna see d 1595 01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,400 Speaker 1: you took it. I'm not even gonna say nothing. Talk 1596 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,880 Speaker 1: to you later, brother, don't say nothing. We will be 1597 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,080 Speaker 1: right back with more money making conversations with your host 1598 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:42,000 Speaker 1: ra Sean McDonald. Adoption of teens from foster care is 1599 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 1: a topic not enough people know about, and we're here 1600 01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,600 Speaker 1: to change that. 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Where 1632 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,639 Speaker 1: there's Hope, there's John Hope Brian, a mentor too many. 1633 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,520 Speaker 1: Brian has dedicated himself to sharing his failures and successes 1634 01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,639 Speaker 1: in life and business as well to empower the next 1635 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,839 Speaker 1: generation of entrepreneurs and Operation Hope and Shopify have partner 1636 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,559 Speaker 1: to create one million new Black owned business. You need 1637 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,560 Speaker 1: to be build building well. You can't build wealth with 1638 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,280 Speaker 1: our compound and can't compound without so many other than 1639 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:55,560 Speaker 1: yous in this case employee technology infrastructure system. So I 1640 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,600 Speaker 1: decided not just complained about it, to try to do 1641 01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,640 Speaker 1: something about it. So we partnered together with Shofi, the 1642 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,040 Speaker 1: second largest e comics retailer in the world. The Captain 1643 01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,400 Speaker 1: Marker Swag Award represents men who have strength, whose wisdom 1644 01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 1: is assertive, and who is genuine in their spirit. Welcome 1645 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 1: back to money Making Conversations with your host, Rashan McDonald. 1646 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversations. I am your host for 1647 01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,360 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I always tell people it's time to stop 1648 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start writing your own. 1649 01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,240 Speaker 1: And I always tell people to leave with your gifts 1650 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 1: and don't let your age, friends, family, or coworkers stop 1651 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,280 Speaker 1: you from planning or living your dreams. My interviews I 1652 01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:35,400 Speaker 1: have on money making conversations with celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs and 1653 01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 1: industry decision makers. Not today will include love mash makers. 1654 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 1: My next guest is Spicy Mortey's a magnetic matchmaker and 1655 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:50,040 Speaker 1: relationship expert who's focused on encouraging individuals and couples to 1656 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,799 Speaker 1: unlock the power of their passion in order to attract 1657 01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,919 Speaker 1: their purpose mate. She is the founder of the Spicy 1658 01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 1: Life and we'll discuss Spicy Morty's career journey and the 1659 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 1: Spicy sp i c Y fundamentals. Please Welcome to Money 1660 01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:08,360 Speaker 1: Making Conversations. Spicy Marty. How you doing. I'm doing amazing. 1661 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,439 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me well great, great for coming 1662 01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,240 Speaker 1: on the show. You know my relationships and we come 1663 01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,680 Speaker 1: out of COVID. You know, I remember doing COVID. I 1664 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,120 Speaker 1: was like, boy, I'm so glad I'm not in the game. Boy. 1665 01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,160 Speaker 1: You know you couldn't you know. You know, if you 1666 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,759 Speaker 1: kiss somebody, you gonna get COVID. Relationships are like covid, 1667 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, you know, the online and apps with this exploding, 1668 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 1: these relationships swapping right fat leftwipe covid leftwipe covid right. 1669 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,720 Speaker 1: It was just, uh, it was just really crazy. And 1670 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:43,479 Speaker 1: now you you said during that period your business flourished. Yeah, 1671 01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, I almost there's a little bit of um 1672 01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:52,280 Speaker 1: guilt when I say like this, this was amazing for me, right, 1673 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,080 Speaker 1: because there was so many chargeship going on um from 1674 01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,160 Speaker 1: a financial level to a romantic level for you know, 1675 01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:02,839 Speaker 1: the entire world. But being in an industry that focuses 1676 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:07,000 Speaker 1: on helping you find love and your purpose. Mate, actually 1677 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,120 Speaker 1: it was opening awakening experience for a lot of folks. 1678 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,880 Speaker 1: I think, UM deciding like, hey, this is time for 1679 01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,960 Speaker 1: me to get serious. Who knows if I'm going to 1680 01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:20,320 Speaker 1: spend another year in quarantine isolated, I really shouldn't, you know, 1681 01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:25,160 Speaker 1: take my companionship and relationship growth serious. So because our 1682 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 1: fundamental elements are based off of self passion, intimacy, communication, 1683 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 1: and learning to say yes. A lot of people decided 1684 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,600 Speaker 1: that they were going to invest in themselves, uh and 1685 01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:42,519 Speaker 1: make sure that they don't spend alone. And so business 1686 01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,839 Speaker 1: has been amazing. What we're gonna talk about your business 1687 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,280 Speaker 1: and the model in the minute, which is love, Well, 1688 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:49,840 Speaker 1: I want to go back to you know, we don't 1689 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,880 Speaker 1: always start there. You know, it was at I Heart Media, 1690 01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:54,920 Speaker 1: which I'm very from me with because Steve Harvey and 1691 01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,800 Speaker 1: I did a syndication contract with I Hard and two 1692 01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,840 Speaker 1: thousand five and he's still with I Heard Medium for 1693 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,160 Speaker 1: In fact, my podcast Money Making Conversation is on the 1694 01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,680 Speaker 1: I Heart Media platform. And then you did work with 1695 01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:09,960 Speaker 1: HBO and uh talk about that stought in that area. 1696 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:11,559 Speaker 1: And then we're gonna go back to college. You're gonna 1697 01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 1: kind of like go there and didn't go back to college. 1698 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,960 Speaker 1: Then we're gonna come back understand how you into this 1699 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:22,879 Speaker 1: love making spicy zone. So my career journey has definitely 1700 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,960 Speaker 1: been diverse, right, but everything that I've done has led 1701 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,960 Speaker 1: me to this point. So I realized at an early 1702 01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,280 Speaker 1: age then my purpose of my calling was to connect 1703 01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,280 Speaker 1: people and understanding that that was a part of my 1704 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,960 Speaker 1: spiritual gifts, made sure that I went to you know, 1705 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,160 Speaker 1: undergrad and got my master's in communication since that's the 1706 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,439 Speaker 1: number one breakdown in relationships. But all the while gaining 1707 01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:49,960 Speaker 1: experience as a relationship expert UM in media platforms from 1708 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:54,759 Speaker 1: radio to television and so starting off at actually kjl 1709 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:58,599 Speaker 1: H early on UM with with Steve Harvey, UM, I'm sorry, 1710 01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:02,080 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey actually was a kid, but with um CD 1711 01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:06,280 Speaker 1: wonder and then going from kJ l H to ninety 1712 01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,200 Speaker 1: two point three after having built like credibility in the 1713 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,880 Speaker 1: radio industry, UM definitely helped me with my on air 1714 01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,160 Speaker 1: experience and doing a relationship radio show where it gave 1715 01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,960 Speaker 1: spicy tips, and so all the meanwhile juggling media plus 1716 01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:24,200 Speaker 1: doing a sales executive position at HBO and making sure 1717 01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,280 Speaker 1: that like I also knew how to pitch myself and 1718 01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,959 Speaker 1: market and brand, so I was able to understand operations 1719 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:31,880 Speaker 1: of business. At the same time we're understanding how to 1720 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,680 Speaker 1: be like in front of the camera. Well, you know, 1721 01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,760 Speaker 1: articulation is the key. You know what you can't do. 1722 01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,519 Speaker 1: You can't start a trying and tell people about love. 1723 01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you can do? You know 1724 01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying spicy. You can't mess around looking like 1725 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,840 Speaker 1: you confused, you know what I'm saying, so so so, 1726 01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,760 Speaker 1: And also let's go be real. You have to look 1727 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,320 Speaker 1: attractive or attractive people. You don't want all the ugly 1728 01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:52,960 Speaker 1: person telling you how to find a little you know, 1729 01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,879 Speaker 1: so you are attractive, and then you have the word spicy. 1730 01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Just this money can say something, you know. 1731 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,680 Speaker 1: You know, if I saw you pictureself relationship, I don't 1732 01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,439 Speaker 1: think she's that busy. I'm saying, don't bus but you're not, 1733 01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,760 Speaker 1: so fortunately for this interview. But then you then also 1734 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,600 Speaker 1: you have the word spicy and you're attractive. Did that 1735 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,960 Speaker 1: ever bother you that? Hey, you know, people might get 1736 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,720 Speaker 1: the wrong idea about your brand, that you might get 1737 01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:22,439 Speaker 1: the wrong idea about you because you are serious professional. Okay, 1738 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,280 Speaker 1: that's a great question. So I love the fact that um, 1739 01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,880 Speaker 1: spicy has become this word that we're like, oh, what 1740 01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,880 Speaker 1: does that mean? You know there's this passion, um and 1741 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:37,519 Speaker 1: desire that's associated with the word spicy, right, And so 1742 01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,759 Speaker 1: I love being able to have an opportunity to describe, 1743 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 1: even with questions like this, what spicy actually stands for. 1744 01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,800 Speaker 1: So I've always embraced it. Um. I coined the name 1745 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:50,000 Speaker 1: actually in radio because I've always you know, pushed my 1746 01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:53,200 Speaker 1: business and my company and my expertise the spicy life. 1747 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,439 Speaker 1: So when I coined the name spicy Matty, it was because, 1748 01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,759 Speaker 1: you know, the CEO of this company, but I'm always 1749 01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,600 Speaker 1: giving spicy tips. So when people asking, like, you know, 1750 01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Like why do they call you spicy? 1751 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,439 Speaker 1: You know, they always think it's because I'm this, you know, fiery, 1752 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,719 Speaker 1: you know, spicyse um, you know black in Mexican Latina, 1753 01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,640 Speaker 1: and so, uh, I get an opportunity to explain to them, no, 1754 01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm mixed. I get an opportunity to explain to them, 1755 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:22,120 Speaker 1: um that spically actually stands for you know, self, passion, intimacy, 1756 01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:25,000 Speaker 1: communication and learning to say yes. And then I coined 1757 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,519 Speaker 1: it in my company, so I embrace it and it's 1758 01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,840 Speaker 1: it's a catchy name that people get to remember. You know, 1759 01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,879 Speaker 1: they're they sometimes forget Mary, but they never forget spicy. 1760 01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,160 Speaker 1: You know, you have the corporate experience, now you're taking 1761 01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,320 Speaker 1: it to a personal level. How were you able to 1762 01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,280 Speaker 1: avoid pushback when you started defining your voice? And then 1763 01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 1: know you have history now, but in the beginning you 1764 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,479 Speaker 1: have to develop that history. Talk about the in the 1765 01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,960 Speaker 1: beginning and then the journey to where we are at 1766 01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:57,400 Speaker 1: being interviewed with a resume of legitimacy tied to your brand. Yeah, 1767 01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:02,200 Speaker 1: I think when it comes to branding, um and credibility, right, 1768 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,439 Speaker 1: people fall in love with the person right before they 1769 01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,000 Speaker 1: fall in love with the brand. They want to know 1770 01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,960 Speaker 1: who's behind that. So when I explained my story of 1771 01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,639 Speaker 1: making sure that you know, I elaborate on the fact 1772 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,479 Speaker 1: that I've been doing this since I was a child, 1773 01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,599 Speaker 1: really connecting people. My mother was married three times single parents. 1774 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,960 Speaker 1: Each time that she was married, I was set her up. 1775 01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,000 Speaker 1: I was going up to men in the grocery store 1776 01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:28,519 Speaker 1: at the gas station pitching my mother to them because 1777 01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,679 Speaker 1: I wanted a dad so bad. And so I felt 1778 01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:36,160 Speaker 1: really good at marketing at a very young age. You know, Mas, husband, 1779 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,680 Speaker 1: you know number four now, So like it's safe to 1780 01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,760 Speaker 1: say I'm really good at what I do, but understanding 1781 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,920 Speaker 1: that you need the education and the credibility behind that, right. 1782 01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,719 Speaker 1: I went to school mastered in communication and really developed 1783 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 1: my method there. So all of the information that I 1784 01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:54,240 Speaker 1: have is based on true research, try tested and proven. 1785 01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,280 Speaker 1: So when anyone comes from me, and they're like, you 1786 01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:57,680 Speaker 1: know what, what makes you an expert? You just get 1787 01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,840 Speaker 1: to go around saying you're an expert. I'm like, yes, actually, 1788 01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:02,240 Speaker 1: I even more than ten years of experience. I've been 1789 01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:06,240 Speaker 1: doing this my entire life, setting up over multiple couples 1790 01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,679 Speaker 1: where they've actually walked down the aisle, had children based 1791 01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:13,880 Speaker 1: off of my you know connection, and then have relationships 1792 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 1: right now that are flourishing, that are getting you know, 1793 01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,880 Speaker 1: getting to the point of the proposal and coaching my 1794 01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,600 Speaker 1: clients and seeing them all the way through. So I 1795 01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,760 Speaker 1: love when people question, you know, what makes you an 1796 01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,000 Speaker 1: expert or what makes you a gur guru because it 1797 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:30,400 Speaker 1: gives the opportunity to really explain all of the investment 1798 01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,320 Speaker 1: and time that I put into this. And when people 1799 01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,479 Speaker 1: hear your story from a branding perspective, like they want 1800 01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:39,560 Speaker 1: to not just believe you, but they want a relationship 1801 01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:43,440 Speaker 1: with you. And being in a relationship industry, I understand 1802 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,360 Speaker 1: that you need self awareness, you need to bring that 1803 01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:49,320 Speaker 1: passion and fire, You need to have intimacy to create 1804 01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,240 Speaker 1: a bond with your you know audience, and you need 1805 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,599 Speaker 1: to have amazing communication and deciding how you deliver that message. 1806 01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:57,479 Speaker 1: And then you also need to be willing to say 1807 01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,720 Speaker 1: yes to the risk, yes to the unknown. Understanding. You 1808 01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:02,960 Speaker 1: know that not everybody's gonna believe you, but that's okay. 1809 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,519 Speaker 1: If you believe you, you're gonna push that message anyways. 1810 01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,040 Speaker 1: So s p I C why it applies to everything 1811 01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:12,880 Speaker 1: absolutely And so now you're the founder of the Spicy life. Okay, 1812 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:17,160 Speaker 1: again carrying a brand spicy. Learning from a standpoint. Using 1813 01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:19,400 Speaker 1: the word that's very popularly used for a lot of 1814 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,320 Speaker 1: different describes a lot of different things, but in this case, 1815 01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,000 Speaker 1: it describes romance. You're trying to trying to find that 1816 01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:29,519 Speaker 1: purpose mate. Now what is the purpose? Mate? So I 1817 01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,639 Speaker 1: love the purpose made term right because it makes you wonder. 1818 01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,599 Speaker 1: It's not something that we hear often. Most people think 1819 01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:38,880 Speaker 1: of soul mate. They've gotten familiar with that word, and 1820 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:42,679 Speaker 1: that is when you have deep affection and romantic feelings 1821 01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:47,200 Speaker 1: for somewhat amazing chemistry I speak to purpose mate. What 1822 01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about is having chemistry and compatibility. So you 1823 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:52,720 Speaker 1: need both of those elements. You can't just have the 1824 01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,920 Speaker 1: fire and desire. You also have to have the compat 1825 01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,320 Speaker 1: compatibility element. And then in addition to that, you have 1826 01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:01,000 Speaker 1: to be someone who understands and knows your purpose in 1827 01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,160 Speaker 1: life and then wants to be with someone who understands 1828 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,880 Speaker 1: their purpose. And then you guys merge two purposes together 1829 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:11,600 Speaker 1: to help one another form or build your empire the 1830 01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,280 Speaker 1: mission that you were put on here to do. You're 1831 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,560 Speaker 1: very clear on that, and you understand your role in 1832 01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,960 Speaker 1: that person's life, and you're there to support them, uplift them, 1833 01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,200 Speaker 1: use their talents and gifts on another level, and help 1834 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,800 Speaker 1: lift them up. So your purpose mate is way bigger 1835 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,439 Speaker 1: than just like, oh, you know he's fine, I love him. Know. 1836 01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:31,760 Speaker 1: Your purpose mate is like, how do I get you 1837 01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,360 Speaker 1: to where God intended for you to be? And it's 1838 01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:37,320 Speaker 1: by any means necessary, no matter what comes against us 1839 01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,120 Speaker 1: to try to destroy us. I'm pushing you. I love 1840 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:44,000 Speaker 1: who are you fine? Which is very true. Now that's 1841 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,720 Speaker 1: why I like what you just said. First of all, 1842 01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,759 Speaker 1: soul mate really has not been working in the marriage 1843 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,640 Speaker 1: world because of the marriage is in the divorce. Now 1844 01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:53,720 Speaker 1: when you ask about what your soul mate, they really 1845 01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,280 Speaker 1: can't explain to what that is a soul mate. Now, 1846 01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,240 Speaker 1: when you went purpose mate, you actually had a point 1847 01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:03,880 Speaker 1: of view. They had credibility. I understood it, and I 1848 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:07,920 Speaker 1: brought value. So to me, this whole purpose made. If 1849 01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:11,360 Speaker 1: you find a purpose made, the percentages of successful marriages 1850 01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:14,720 Speaker 1: may go up. Because soul mate is not working. I'm 1851 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,960 Speaker 1: just sorry it's not working and falling. It's failed because 1852 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,800 Speaker 1: can nobody explained what the soul mate is. I can't 1853 01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,160 Speaker 1: tell you. I've never used the word soul mate, but 1854 01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,519 Speaker 1: purpose made I could use because it has you know, 1855 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,880 Speaker 1: It's like anything you do in life, like a good job, 1856 01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,200 Speaker 1: you have to know it's a contract. If you pretending 1857 01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,080 Speaker 1: to forget that, marriage is a contract, you know, and 1858 01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:35,680 Speaker 1: you have the right to break it if it's not 1859 01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,679 Speaker 1: working for you. Now in this situation, your purpose made 1860 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,639 Speaker 1: that is turned to that person's purpose, that person's purpose 1861 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,280 Speaker 1: of what they want to do with their lives, and 1862 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,640 Speaker 1: that never comes up and being a soul mate. I 1863 01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,280 Speaker 1: really like that concept that you really have honed on 1864 01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,320 Speaker 1: to because it makes me, made me think, It made 1865 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,200 Speaker 1: me get a clear understanding of Okay, when I look 1866 01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:59,120 Speaker 1: at somebody, I always tell people like you know when 1867 01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,719 Speaker 1: you when you can marry for money, you can marry 1868 01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,880 Speaker 1: from somebody who's educated, you can mary with somebody because 1869 01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:06,639 Speaker 1: they But if you're married for fineness, you're married because 1870 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,720 Speaker 1: he or he made me laugh. I'm gonna tell you 1871 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,599 Speaker 1: right now, that's gonna be a short relationship. It might 1872 01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,880 Speaker 1: you lead the marriage and the sex canna get old, 1873 01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:16,920 Speaker 1: he and want the sex get old, you won't be 1874 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,920 Speaker 1: laughing as much. But if you're married based on a plan, 1875 01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,759 Speaker 1: and that's what purpose made is it's a plan. Correct 1876 01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,680 Speaker 1: talk to me. I think I'm into this spicy life. 1877 01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,240 Speaker 1: Girl told you haven't said all the mighty to hire 1878 01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying, but you you're leading me 1879 01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,439 Speaker 1: down the right path because, like I said, I did 1880 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,040 Speaker 1: the book act like a lady to think like a 1881 01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,840 Speaker 1: man with Steve Harder. The reason that book was so successful, 1882 01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,559 Speaker 1: one of the things was the naty day the naty 1883 01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:47,240 Speaker 1: day period that that you had in there, because it 1884 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,439 Speaker 1: was like, if a job could put your approbation for 1885 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,120 Speaker 1: ninety days, why can't you put your relationship on probation 1886 01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:54,400 Speaker 1: for ninety days? And so this is the same thing. 1887 01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,080 Speaker 1: It was tied to making the decision not so much 1888 01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,640 Speaker 1: on emotion, but is this the right person for you? 1889 01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,760 Speaker 1: And when I hear the word soul mate, and we've 1890 01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:04,960 Speaker 1: all heard that, and we all used I've used that 1891 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,960 Speaker 1: in some form. I don't know what that means, but 1892 01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:11,439 Speaker 1: I knew with naty day probation mant does in job 1893 01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:15,400 Speaker 1: and in a relationship. Also know what purpose made me. 1894 01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:17,600 Speaker 1: Once you explain to me, and once you explain it 1895 01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:19,960 Speaker 1: to any of your clients, I'm sure they go, Wow, 1896 01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:23,880 Speaker 1: I never thought like that. M hm. You're absolutely hidden 1897 01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,240 Speaker 1: on the money. And the thing is is one thing 1898 01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,559 Speaker 1: that I do love about act like the lady, things 1899 01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,519 Speaker 1: like a man, you know, and I give you crazy 1900 01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,839 Speaker 1: insane props um for everything that you did for publishing 1901 01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,120 Speaker 1: that book and getting it out there. UM is that 1902 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:43,000 Speaker 1: it speaks to um strategy, which I speak to as well. 1903 01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,800 Speaker 1: Right what you're saying right now is that we have 1904 01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:49,080 Speaker 1: to operate less in emotion and how someone makes us 1905 01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:51,720 Speaker 1: feel and more in logic, which is totally what I'm 1906 01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:53,920 Speaker 1: in support of. I once you have books, and once 1907 01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,360 Speaker 1: you have the chemistry and compatibility, but what does that 1908 01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:59,479 Speaker 1: look like? How do we create a strategic action plan 1909 01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,400 Speaker 1: or what your relationship goal is? And that's what I 1910 01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,280 Speaker 1: get to the root of because a lot of people 1911 01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,720 Speaker 1: are just out here floating around trying to figure it out. 1912 01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,400 Speaker 1: And one thing that I do support in act like 1913 01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:11,000 Speaker 1: the lady thinks like a man as well? Is that 1914 01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:14,439 Speaker 1: ninety day rule? Now? Can most people follow it when 1915 01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:18,400 Speaker 1: they come into my program? That's a whole. That's a whole, 1916 01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,640 Speaker 1: another whole, another topic. Right, they require a lot of 1917 01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:24,559 Speaker 1: strength when it comes to being abstinent for those ninety days. 1918 01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,800 Speaker 1: But I fully support that, actually implement that in my 1919 01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,559 Speaker 1: spicy program because I need people to have clarity of thoughts. 1920 01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,679 Speaker 1: I don't want them emotionally attached to someone who hasn't 1921 01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:37,160 Speaker 1: earned all of the things that need to show up 1922 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:40,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to their core values, their deal breakers, consistency, 1923 01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,160 Speaker 1: and when we speak to your purpose mate, your purpose 1924 01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:46,120 Speaker 1: mate has to show the compatibility element before we give 1925 01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,320 Speaker 1: our bodies to them. And what I mean by compatibility 1926 01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:51,840 Speaker 1: is I'm talking amazing communication that's in alignment with your 1927 01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:56,640 Speaker 1: definition of communication. I'm talking shared activities and interests, and 1928 01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about being at the same place and your 1929 01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:02,160 Speaker 1: guys time and intention of what you guys want from 1930 01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:04,560 Speaker 1: the relationship. Right, Can I merge my life with this 1931 01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:06,559 Speaker 1: person and are we at the same place in our 1932 01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,439 Speaker 1: lives in knowing what our purpose is and what's the 1933 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,680 Speaker 1: game plans to fulfilling that So I'm huge on strategy 1934 01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,519 Speaker 1: and it's something that I've created my whole method around. 1935 01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,160 Speaker 1: When it comes to manifesting what you truly want, I'm 1936 01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:23,160 Speaker 1: not just about words and emotions. I'm about about yes, manifestation. 1937 01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,720 Speaker 1: But we do that through behavioral changes and actions. What 1938 01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,320 Speaker 1: does this game plan look like? Well? It really interesting. 1939 01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:31,000 Speaker 1: So when one because you know a lot of the 1940 01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:34,400 Speaker 1: big companies out there making money off matchmaking, and then 1941 01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,680 Speaker 1: you just you know, you just icy body. Okay, So 1942 01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,000 Speaker 1: how do need to be with the big ballers out there? 1943 01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:44,120 Speaker 1: They got the million dollar commercial brands, you know, they 1944 01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:47,920 Speaker 1: on social media, they do geo fencing and couples, you know, 1945 01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,720 Speaker 1: and it's credibility. How how did you manage to, you know, 1946 01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:55,400 Speaker 1: start defining your lane and being on major talk shows 1947 01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:59,680 Speaker 1: and being an advice person? How did that happen? I 1948 01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,600 Speaker 1: think a part of my success has been driven not 1949 01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:06,000 Speaker 1: just from the branding component of understanding what my brand is, 1950 01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,200 Speaker 1: but also, and I'll tell this to my datas to 1951 01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,479 Speaker 1: what's your product differentiator? Right? What makes you different or 1952 01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,840 Speaker 1: sets you apart from what else is on the market. 1953 01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,920 Speaker 1: And so when we speak in business terms, there's tons 1954 01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,840 Speaker 1: of other matchmaking companies. There's tons of competitors completely understand that, 1955 01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:23,679 Speaker 1: but what they're not doing is giving you the personal 1956 01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:27,040 Speaker 1: relationship coaching that comes with the matchmaking. I can introduce 1957 01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,360 Speaker 1: you to a hundred people, but if I don't know 1958 01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,400 Speaker 1: how to raise your vibration, if I don't know your strengths, 1959 01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:37,000 Speaker 1: your weaknesses, opportunities and threats um which is what I 1960 01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:39,880 Speaker 1: do for my clients a squat analysis, right, really understanding 1961 01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,920 Speaker 1: their character, what their beliefs are. You know what's there, 1962 01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:46,120 Speaker 1: what's holding them back, what's their limiting beliefs, Really understanding 1963 01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,920 Speaker 1: who they are as a person, and developing that personal tension. 1964 01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,200 Speaker 1: How am I going to set you up with your 1965 01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:54,240 Speaker 1: purposemate when we haven't even gotten to the root of 1966 01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:56,599 Speaker 1: you know who you are, some of your childhood traumas. 1967 01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:58,720 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of coaching that comes with my 1968 01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,719 Speaker 1: program and it addition to the weekly coaching, you also 1969 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:05,400 Speaker 1: get an image consultant. I redo your look. You also 1970 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,640 Speaker 1: get a professional astrologists as someone who's telling me what 1971 01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,200 Speaker 1: are the best zodiac signs are for you. I also 1972 01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:13,640 Speaker 1: have a marriage and damp family therapists on staff. And 1973 01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,280 Speaker 1: then I also redo your online dating profile. So everything 1974 01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,880 Speaker 1: that we're doing is transformational. And we even have of 1975 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,240 Speaker 1: a fitness coach should we need to like help you 1976 01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:26,840 Speaker 1: from a health standpoint. So it's full, full encompassing and 1977 01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:31,000 Speaker 1: very hands on, whereas other matchmaking companies are just setting 1978 01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:33,880 Speaker 1: you up and they're like, good luck, now, pay my 1979 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,320 Speaker 1: tin k, pay my twenty k, and they're not really 1980 01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,320 Speaker 1: working on who you are as a person and getting 1981 01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,519 Speaker 1: to the root of relationship development. And I think that's 1982 01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:45,400 Speaker 1: what you know, my main emphasis is is that interpersonal 1983 01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:47,360 Speaker 1: development and how do I help you become the best 1984 01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:52,320 Speaker 1: version of yourself so that you can reach relationship actualization. Uh, 1985 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:57,439 Speaker 1: hopefully you've trade Bok purpose made have you you're just 1986 01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,600 Speaker 1: giving you're giving, You're giving me a bar right there, 1987 01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:01,639 Speaker 1: or work on it right now. I tell you, I'm 1988 01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,200 Speaker 1: telling you things that have to trademark in addition to 1989 01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:07,280 Speaker 1: it's a spicy life, which you already have and spicy moody. 1990 01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:09,639 Speaker 1: But I have five things in the in the queue 1991 01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:12,320 Speaker 1: right now, right because I know I'm just sitting there. 1992 01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:14,320 Speaker 1: They're just looking at you because you know you got it, 1993 01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, And I like a talent, like a talent 1994 01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,080 Speaker 1: all the time coming for you. When I get my book. 1995 01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:23,040 Speaker 1: I need your help. I've developed money making conversation as 1996 01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:24,519 Speaker 1: a voice. You know, a lot of people wanted me 1997 01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,040 Speaker 1: to mentor them and also give them advice where I 1998 01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:29,080 Speaker 1: can do that in interviews and also if you listen 1999 01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,760 Speaker 1: to the interviews that I do with talented people like you, 2000 01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:35,680 Speaker 1: maybe you can take those little moments of enthusiasm or 2001 01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:40,519 Speaker 1: information because it's tied to both, because successful people are 2002 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:44,439 Speaker 1: driven by their hard work also by their excitement, like 2003 01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:46,920 Speaker 1: you're excited about what you do. I don't know anybody 2004 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:50,040 Speaker 1: who who makes a lot of money and unhappy they're 2005 01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,760 Speaker 1: gonna change the game. You know, I'm not unhappy or 2006 01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,920 Speaker 1: anything I do. I wake up happy. That gets you 2007 01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:56,720 Speaker 1: out of bed, That gets me out the front door, 2008 01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:59,040 Speaker 1: and it also causes me to return home so I 2009 01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:02,000 Speaker 1: can rest up and do to get the next day. Now, spicy, 2010 01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:04,599 Speaker 1: you know it said yes. It's important in the learning 2011 01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:08,439 Speaker 1: of say yes now in relationships. You've always heard the 2012 01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:12,639 Speaker 1: word now to say no now, and you is learning 2013 01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:15,280 Speaker 1: how to say yes because that's the last of the 2014 01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:19,120 Speaker 1: terms with spices. S P I C Y Y stands 2015 01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:23,680 Speaker 1: for yes, So talk about that. So the reason why 2016 01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:26,920 Speaker 1: yes it's so important is um exactly for what you said, right, 2017 01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:30,600 Speaker 1: society and what's going on culturally right now is that 2018 01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:35,920 Speaker 1: the you know, rate of marriage for millennial age groups 2019 01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:39,600 Speaker 1: is flowing down as far as like the time that 2020 01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:42,080 Speaker 1: we're choosing to get married in our lives. Right, So 2021 01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,600 Speaker 1: there's all of this UM fear based around why we 2022 01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,640 Speaker 1: need to wait, why we need to be making slower decisions, 2023 01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:50,880 Speaker 1: because you know, we saw what our parents did and 2024 01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,760 Speaker 1: our parents parents, and because the divorce rate is so high, 2025 01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:57,280 Speaker 1: we're now dating from a place of fear. And so 2026 01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:59,200 Speaker 1: when you date from a place of fear, that's a 2027 01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,000 Speaker 1: scarcity my mindset, You're going to be limited in what 2028 01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,439 Speaker 1: you believe your options are. You're gonna be limited and 2029 01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:07,160 Speaker 1: what you believe that you can attract. So when I 2030 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,000 Speaker 1: hear limiting beliefs, I have to help you with raising 2031 01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:13,360 Speaker 1: your vibration and having not a scarcity mindset but an 2032 01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,519 Speaker 1: abundance mindset. When we have an abundance mindset, it means 2033 01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,679 Speaker 1: that we don't have to be afraid of the unknown. 2034 01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:21,559 Speaker 1: It means that we can take risks and step into 2035 01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:24,160 Speaker 1: them with strategy. Right, Because I believe in risk, but 2036 01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:27,439 Speaker 1: I believe in calculating risks. So when you're dating, you're 2037 01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:30,040 Speaker 1: going through the process, or even when you're in partnership 2038 01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:34,280 Speaker 1: really evaluating you know, the choices that you're making, researching 2039 01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,640 Speaker 1: you know why you want this relationship and what's that 2040 01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,519 Speaker 1: looks like, but also what's holding you back, what's stopping 2041 01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:42,439 Speaker 1: you from being in a healthy, loving relationship, and when 2042 01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:46,120 Speaker 1: it comes to partnership, really understanding that, yes, you want 2043 01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:50,720 Speaker 1: those bubble going warm butterfly failings, but you really want 2044 01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,639 Speaker 1: the person who's going to submit. And when I say submit, 2045 01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the person who says yes to what's 2046 01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,519 Speaker 1: healthiest for the relationship. I'm not talking about, you know, 2047 01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:05,120 Speaker 1: bending down on one knee or doing whatever your partner says. 2048 01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:07,640 Speaker 1: When I talk about submission, I'm saying about what am 2049 01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,479 Speaker 1: I willing to sacrifice in this relationship to have what 2050 01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:13,280 Speaker 1: I want? Because you're not going to get percent of 2051 01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,080 Speaker 1: the person, right, I definitely believe in the So what 2052 01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:18,920 Speaker 1: are you willing to sacrifice about you? Your personality that's 2053 01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:20,920 Speaker 1: not serving you, that's holding you back? And then what 2054 01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:23,439 Speaker 1: are you willing to sacrifice from a behavioral standpoint and 2055 01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,519 Speaker 1: making sure that your partner's love language is fed and 2056 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:28,439 Speaker 1: oftentimes we want to you know, I want to put 2057 01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:30,200 Speaker 1: these boundaries up. I want to put these walls up. 2058 01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:33,240 Speaker 1: And we're so guarded because we're afraid to love. So 2059 01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,719 Speaker 1: my whole emphasis around yes is like, Okay, let's push 2060 01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,680 Speaker 1: past these boundaries and if we believe that we can 2061 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,000 Speaker 1: actually have what we want, what are we afraid of? 2062 01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:44,080 Speaker 1: We just have to step into our future self and 2063 01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:50,160 Speaker 1: go get it. Wow. Communication, Hey, it's heavy, right, degree 2064 01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:53,360 Speaker 1: in communication? Communicate because you girl, I can talk that now. 2065 01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:55,479 Speaker 1: I know. I gotta I at least gott to bring 2066 01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:59,280 Speaker 1: this up. You know, Vice President Kamala Harris was named. 2067 01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:07,280 Speaker 1: They liked it, and so is she getting ready? You know? 2068 01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,920 Speaker 1: And she she was. She's a member of STY. I 2069 01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:14,479 Speaker 1: think I think STY that you remember of. So just 2070 01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:19,160 Speaker 1: talk about the pride of being the sisterhood of A 2071 01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,920 Speaker 1: K S and being her being a member of the 2072 01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:25,560 Speaker 1: A k R A k sority. Absolutely, I think that 2073 01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:29,600 Speaker 1: it's very well known that, right, we pride ourselves on 2074 01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, high morals and ethical standards, and so being 2075 01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:36,920 Speaker 1: able to see you know, us represented now um not 2076 01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:40,040 Speaker 1: just in the White House, also making history and also 2077 01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:43,559 Speaker 1: being you know, connected to my sorority of Alpha Cup 2078 01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:48,200 Speaker 1: of Alpha. I have so much pride in the fact that, like, 2079 01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:50,320 Speaker 1: we did it right. And when I say we did 2080 01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:54,840 Speaker 1: it as as a community um as you know, Greek 2081 01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,200 Speaker 1: organizations all around. She represents all of us. I don't 2082 01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,280 Speaker 1: want to you know, just exclude. She just happens to 2083 01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,919 Speaker 1: be you know, a a k A. The first and finest. 2084 01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:06,120 Speaker 1: But I take I take pride on behalf of all 2085 01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:09,240 Speaker 1: of my brothers and sisters. When you know, we see 2086 01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:12,200 Speaker 1: her up there, you know, on the podium or next 2087 01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:15,599 Speaker 1: to the president, knowing understanding the responsibility that she has, 2088 01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:19,160 Speaker 1: and knowing because her core values and what she stands 2089 01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:20,960 Speaker 1: for and what she believes in, that she's going to 2090 01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,160 Speaker 1: make sure that she takes care of us and represents us, 2091 01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:26,080 Speaker 1: um you know, to the best of her ability. So 2092 01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:28,360 Speaker 1: there's you know, there was that moment when I cried, 2093 01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:34,040 Speaker 1: uh when she got elected, but definitely, you know, was 2094 01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:36,479 Speaker 1: was huge and excited when I even first heard that 2095 01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:38,559 Speaker 1: she was on the ballot, and then to see her 2096 01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:42,320 Speaker 1: make history on multiple things, on multiple levels, even you know, 2097 01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:45,240 Speaker 1: me being biracial, seeing a biracial woman up there, like, 2098 01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:48,040 Speaker 1: there's so many things that I connect with her on 2099 01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:52,840 Speaker 1: that I'm You're gonna get the emotional right now. But 2100 01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:55,759 Speaker 1: but just the joy in my heart right, my spirit 2101 01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,840 Speaker 1: was uplifted and super excited for my future offspring to 2102 01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,120 Speaker 1: be able to see her in there, you know, and 2103 01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:03,360 Speaker 1: and what she represents. It means a lot to me 2104 01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:05,840 Speaker 1: and to my community. Well you know you and the 2105 01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:10,040 Speaker 1: money making money making conversation is business money and that is. 2106 01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:15,439 Speaker 1: But also you know, a weekly uh clubhouse you know, 2107 01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:18,120 Speaker 1: so I don't really learn you know, you know, you're 2108 01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,920 Speaker 1: willing to have people for free to talk about that 2109 01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:25,439 Speaker 1: and we're wrapping up. Yeah, so I love um. I 2110 01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:27,840 Speaker 1: love clubhouse because it gives me an opportunity to give 2111 01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:31,639 Speaker 1: relationship advice weekly on Sundays, I usually hold a forum 2112 01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:36,360 Speaker 1: where I'm giving relationship coaching and giving spicy tips out there. 2113 01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,439 Speaker 1: It's not as full hands on as of course my 2114 01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:41,519 Speaker 1: program or my E course that I just rolled out, 2115 01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:45,080 Speaker 1: which is um six weeks that I'm doing giving the 2116 01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:48,800 Speaker 1: spicy relationship coaching and helping people attract their purpose mate, 2117 01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:51,880 Speaker 1: but it does provide an opportunity for these people to 2118 01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:53,479 Speaker 1: get a taste to fill up their cup, kind of 2119 01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:57,800 Speaker 1: like Sunday Church. When I do my clubhouse events, it 2120 01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:00,200 Speaker 1: gives people an opportunity to ask me questions and just 2121 01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:04,000 Speaker 1: get some clarity around what they may be experiencing. And 2122 01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:05,760 Speaker 1: then I also provide if they need to feel their 2123 01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:07,600 Speaker 1: love cup up even more so that they have an 2124 01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,400 Speaker 1: abundant supporting to others. Also provide my Spicy Life podcast 2125 01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:15,360 Speaker 1: where I'm also having guests come on and speaking to 2126 01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,400 Speaker 1: relationships on there as well, but getting to bounce off 2127 01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:20,680 Speaker 1: of other relationship experts, and each week I bring in 2128 01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:22,240 Speaker 1: someone different. So I'll do the same thing with the 2129 01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,639 Speaker 1: podcast as I do with the Clubhouse, where all sometimes 2130 01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,640 Speaker 1: bring different people on that I get to interview and 2131 01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:32,360 Speaker 1: give relationship advice out she's the magnetic matchmaker and relationship 2132 01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:36,320 Speaker 1: experts and spicy body almighty because I'm from Houston, Texas. 2133 01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:38,160 Speaker 1: That's how we do with that text, Max, you know. 2134 01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,320 Speaker 1: But again, I want to thank you for coming on 2135 01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:43,639 Speaker 1: the show. Also for attending to HBCU spellment. That's always 2136 01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:48,000 Speaker 1: great to acknowledge a k A cute dog. Okay over here, 2137 01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:49,880 Speaker 1: frand okay for doing my thing too. You know what 2138 01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, But just stop, just stop, just stop again. 2139 01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:55,639 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on money making, 2140 01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:59,880 Speaker 1: coming to your fantastic again keeping in your your your book, 2141 01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:03,080 Speaker 1: keeping your thought process. Anytime you want to want to 2142 01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,680 Speaker 1: promote something, to drop your e book, drop kip, drop 2143 01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:08,280 Speaker 1: your book. I also drop your your your your e line. 2144 01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:11,000 Speaker 1: But let me put in my money on my news left. Okay, 2145 01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,080 Speaker 1: so we can get you out there. Because I also 2146 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:16,479 Speaker 1: have a platform, HBCU Awards, I want to recognize you 2147 01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,479 Speaker 1: for being for attending to HBCU and also because those 2148 01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:23,320 Speaker 1: are recognized returning in sororities on my ABC Awards dot 2149 01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:26,360 Speaker 1: com platform. But again, you are amazing. I'm so glad 2150 01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:28,240 Speaker 1: you took time to talk to me about your brand. 2151 01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:32,200 Speaker 1: And again I'm a friend. And again, thank goodness, you 2152 01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:33,880 Speaker 1: look like a photo. That's all I got to said. 2153 01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:39,280 Speaker 1: Thank could you get like a photo you would agree? Again, 2154 01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:43,280 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation. 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