1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good Morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with breaking developments in the Jeffrey Epstein case. 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: President Donald Trump has been under growing pressure from within 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 3: his own party to release documents related to the late 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: child sex offender. Now, the President has authorized the Justice 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: Department to seek the release of grand jury testimony in 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 3: the case. The move comes after a Wall Street Journal 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: report that President Trump gave a suggestive letter to Epstein 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: as part of an album for his fiftieth birthday. House 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: speaker Mike Johnson says, the President is making the right move. 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 4: We trust the American people. 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 5: They can draw their own conclusions, and so he's in 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 5: the process of releasing the information that can be released 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 5: it's not held up by a court or involves, you know, 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 5: victims of crimes or something like that. 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: House Speaker Mike Johnson reacted to the news on Capitol 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: Hill last night. President Trump posted on social media that 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: Attorney General Pam Bondi should produce pertinent grand jury testimony, 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 3: subject to court approval. It's unclear if the courts would 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: release that testimony, which is typically kept secret. As for 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: the Journal report on the birthday letter, President Trump is 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: calling that fake news and he's threatening to sue the paper. 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: Nathan Feder Reserve chair Jerown Powell has sent a letter 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: to the White House budget Director as he faces mounting 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: pressure over the Central Banks two and a half billion 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: dollar renovation. Powell's letter mostly repeats information from a frequently 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: asked questions page on the Fed's website. The chairman has 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: blamed rising building costs for the overruns. Budget Director Russ 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: Vote says the project has been horribly mismanaged. 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 6: This is not something the American people should expect from 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 6: their government, and it comes at the real world implication 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 6: of us not having the FED running a large s 35 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 6: program that doesn't allow us to bring in the necessary 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 6: resources to the Treasury. 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: White House a budget director Chris Vote, spoke to reporters 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: at the White House. His criticisms come on top of 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: an ongoing push by President Trump and his allies for 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: the FED to lower interest rates. 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: Well, President Trump's not the only one calling for rate cut. 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: Karen Fed Governor Christopher Waller says policymakers should cut this 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: month to support a labor market that is showing signs 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: of weakness. 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 7: I believe it makes sense to cut the fmc's policy 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 7: rate by twenty five basis points two weeks from now 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 7: and looking to later this year. If, as I expect, 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 7: underlying inflation remains in check, with headline inflation data reporting 49 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 7: modest but temporary increases from inflate on tariffs that are 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 7: not un anchoring inflation expectations, and the economy continues to 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 7: grow slowly, I would support even further twenty five basis 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 7: point cuts to move policy towards neutral. 53 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: FED Governor Christopher Waller spoke in a speech in New 54 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: York yesterday. 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: Nathan new developments this morning on the war in Ukraine. 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: European Union States have approved a fresh sanctions package on Russia, 57 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: and we go to London and get the latest at 58 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Uen pots. 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 8: Ewen, Karen and Nathan. This is the eighteenth package of 60 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 8: EU sanctions against Russia since its invasion of Ukraine. The 61 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 8: measures we'll see about twenty more Russian banks cut off 62 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 8: from the international payment system swift and energy exports will 63 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 8: be targeted with restrictions on oil processed in third countries, 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 8: including the blacklisting of a refinery in India part owned 65 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 8: by Russian state oil run company Ross left and the 66 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 8: eucap on Russian oil price is currently set at sixty 67 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 8: dollars a barrel. Will now we cut to fifteen dollars 68 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 8: below market rates in London. 69 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: I'm youw in pots Bloomberg Radio, All right, ewen, thank 70 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: you turn two of the markets now. Both the S 71 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: and P five hundred and the Nasdaq are beginning the 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: day near record highs. Shares of Netflix are falling. They're 73 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: down more than one percent. That's despite earnings for the 74 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: streaming giant beating investor exptations and every major metric. The 75 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: world's most popular paid streaming service is also raising its 76 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: forecast for full year sales and profit margins. Netflix CEO 77 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: Ted Sarando says his outlook is positive. 78 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 9: We're feeling really good about the business. We had a 79 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 9: plan to reaccelerate growth and we've delivered on that plan. 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 9: And engagement, which we view as our best proxy for 81 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 9: member happiness because when people watch more, they stick around longer, 82 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 9: so that's retention. 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: Ted Sarando spoke on the Netflix earnings call. Netflix shares 84 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: have nearly doubled over the past year, It's market value 85 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 3: tops five hundred billion dollars, making Netflix worth more than Disney, Comcast, 86 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: and Warner Brothers Discovery combined. 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: Nathan, Apple is losing more top talent meta Platforms is 88 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: hired away a pair of key artificial intelligence researchers from 89 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: the iPhone maker. Sources say the move comes shortly after 90 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: the social networking giant poach their former boss from Apple 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: and Karen. 92 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 3: President Trump's expected to announce policy guidelines for artificial intelligence, 93 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: calling for easing regulation and expanding energy sources for data centers. 94 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: The Trump Administration's AI action plan will be largely focused 95 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: on messaging limited to executive branch actions that will reflect 96 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: the administration's efforts to promote the adoption of US artificial 97 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: intelligence globally. 98 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: Nathan. The total market cap of crypto assets has surged 99 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: past four trillion dollars for the first time, and follows 100 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: a sweeping push on Capitol Hill to regulate the sector. 101 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: In Bloomberg's Michael bar reports. 102 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 10: The House pass the first federal legislation to regulate stable coins, 103 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 10: backed by President Donald Trump and Republicans. The Senate passed 104 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 10: it earlier. Supporters say the legislation imposes federal or state 105 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 10: oversight on dollar linked tokens and could unlock faster and 106 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 10: cheaper forms of payment. It could also bring legitimacy to 107 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 10: a two hundred and sixty five billion dollar market. Critics, 108 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 10: including Senator Elizabeth Warren and Representative Maxine Waters, warned that 109 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 10: the new stable coin regulatory regime won't do enough to 110 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 10: protect consumers. They say it could lead the pressure for 111 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 10: gouds bailouts if issuers of the digital tokens fail. Michael 112 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 10: Barr Bloomberg Radio. 113 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 11: All right, Michael, thank you. 114 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: More changes are coming to Paramount Global CBS network. You'll 115 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: notice them if. 116 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 11: You stay up for it. 117 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: The Late Show with Stephen Colbert is going to air 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: its last episode in May of next year. CBS says 119 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 3: it is purely a financial decision. It comes days after 120 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: Colbert condemned Paramount settlement of President Trump's lawsuit over a 121 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: sixty minutes story. In his first show back from vacation. 122 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: Colbert called it, quote a big, fat bribe. Paramount is 123 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 3: in the process of being acquired by sky Dance Media. 124 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: Time now for look at some of the other stories 125 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: making news in New York and around the world, And 126 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Monica Ricks Monica good morning. 127 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 4: Hey, Good morning, Karen. 128 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: Well. 129 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 12: First there was the Senate. Now the House has voted 130 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 12: to claw back about nine billion dollars in funding that 131 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 12: currently goes to foreign aid and public broadcasting. This happened 132 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 12: just a few hours ago on Capitol Hill, Majority Leader 133 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 12: Steve Scalise, calling those necessary. 134 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 13: Let's finally get control over waste, fraud, and abuse. 135 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 10: We started it. 136 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 13: In the One Big Beautiful Bill, We're continuing it here, 137 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 13: and we're going to continue it through the appropriations process. 138 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 12: Democrats say the cuts will hurt America's standing in the 139 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 12: world and put residents in rural communities at a disadvantage 140 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 12: without access to public media. The White House has unveiled 141 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 12: while President why President Trump's displayed swollen ankles and a 142 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 12: bruised hand lately. Bloomberg's Amy Morris has details from Washington. 143 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 11: President Trump has been diagnosed with chronic venous insufficiency That 144 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 11: means damaged valves struggle to keep blood flowing from the 145 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 11: legs back to the heart. It is not life threatening, 146 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 11: but it could lead to more serious problems. Press Secretary 147 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 11: Caroline Levitt on the Medical Exam. 148 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 14: Bilateral lower extremity than that. Venus Doppler ultrasounds were performed 149 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 14: and revealed chronic venous insufficiency AB nine in common condition, 150 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 14: particularly in individuals over the age of seventy. 151 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 11: The seventy nine year old Trump has ankle and leg 152 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 11: swelling related to the disease and bruising on his hand 153 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 11: in Washington, Amy Moore as Bloomberg Radio. 154 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 12: Federal immigration officials now have access to personal information on 155 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 12: all of the nation's seventy nine million Medicaid participants, including 156 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 12: their addresses and Social Security numbers. ICE plans to use 157 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 12: that info now to track immigrants who who may not 158 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 12: be living in the US legally and at twenty three 159 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 12: year olds facing charges now after fighting with a flight 160 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 12: attendant and trying to open a plane door mid flight, 161 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 12: the sky westflight had to make an emergency landing in 162 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 12: Cedar Rapids, Michigan last night. The twenty three year olds 163 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 12: facing disorderly conduct and assault, among other charges. Global News 164 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 12: twenty four hours a day and whenever you want it 165 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 12: with Bloomberg News. 166 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: Now. 167 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 12: I'm Monica Rix and this is Bloomberg. 168 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: Karen Nathan. 169 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: All right, Monica, thank you time now for the Bloomberg 170 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: Sportes out date brought to you by Flushing Bank and 171 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: here's John stash Hour. 172 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 15: Good morning Caring. After the opening ran out of the 173 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 15: Open Championship and Royal Port Rush. Five golfers and five 174 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 15: different countries shared the lead at four hundred part of 175 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 15: the lone American, Harris English, he's got an early tea 176 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 15: time today. The South African Christian Buzetenhut is on the 177 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 15: course now still four under, and Brian Harmon has now 178 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 15: moved into the share of the lead also four under. 179 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 15: Scottie Scheffler minus three goes off just after ten o'clock today. 180 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 10: Rory McElroy yesterday. 181 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 15: Shot one under, felt the support of playing in his 182 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 15: native Northern Ireland, you. 183 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 16: Know, the support of an entire country right there, which 184 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 16: is a wonderful position to be in. But at the 185 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 16: same time you don't want to let them done, so 186 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 16: you know, there's there's a little bit of outer pressure. 187 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 16: I felt like I dealt with it really well today, 188 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 16: certainly dealt with it better than I did six years ago, 189 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 16: you know. So it was you know, just hopping it 190 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 16: off to a good start and getting myself into the tournament. 191 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 15: Also one under going into today. John Ram, Shane Lowry, 192 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 15: who won that last open at Royal Port Rush, and 193 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 15: fifty five year old Phil Mickelson, Baseball's back when we 194 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 15: lost all the Red Sox they were red hot, reeling 195 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 15: off ten wins in a row. Oh, they'll take on 196 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 15: the Cubs in a day game at Wrigularly, the Socks 197 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 15: only a game behind the second place Yankees, who played 198 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 15: tonight Atlanta. The Mets her home for Cincinnati. Kepla signings 199 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 15: of No TJ. Watt in Pittsburgh. Stainfoot with the Steelers 200 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 15: three years, one hundred and twenty three million, all but 201 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 15: fifteen million of it guaranteed. He'll make slightly more than 202 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 15: another defensive lineman, Cleveland's Miles Garrett. Watt will make more 203 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 15: than any non quarterback ever has. And Damian Lillard spent 204 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 15: eleven years in Portland, went to Milwaukee, got hurt, got released. 205 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 15: He's going back to the Trailblazers, although due to the 206 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 15: injury he won't play next season. Caitlyn Clark won't play 207 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 15: in tomorrow's WNBA All Star Game in Indianapolis. You won't 208 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 15: even compete in the three point contest due to her 209 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 15: gint injury over forty WNBA players, including Clark, met to 210 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 15: discuss labor negotiations, and then put out a statement that said, 211 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 15: the only thing more unsustainable than the current system is 212 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 15: pretending he can go on forever. John Stasheward Bloomberg Sports, 213 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 15: Karen Ethan. 214 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on blue Berg Radio, nationwide on Serious XM, 215 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 216 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 217 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager bringing you a conversation now 218 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: with the president of the San Francisco Fed Mary Daily. 219 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: She sat down with Bloomberg's Michael McKee at the Rocky 220 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: Mountain Economic Summit in Victor, Idaho. They talked about the 221 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: possibility of rate cuts, recent pressure on Chairman Powell, and 222 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: the impact of tariffs on the economy. 223 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: Let's listen in. 224 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 17: For me, what is really important is looking at the 225 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 17: incoming information. 226 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: How close we are. 227 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 17: I think one of the Pauls said, you know, we're 228 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 17: really close. We have an economy that's working, we have 229 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 17: solid growth, we have a solid labor market. 230 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: You know, the consumers. 231 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 17: Are spending, but they're you know, making their way in 232 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 17: their families. Ultimately, what is still bothersome is not we 233 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 17: haven't achieved price stability. And you know, I define price 234 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 17: stability this way. I do think it's sort of an 235 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 17: ethos part. It's when people don't have to worry about inflation. 236 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 17: When I go out and ask people across the twelfth district, 237 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 17: across the country, what's your top worry and they stop 238 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 17: saying inflation, well, then that's going to be a victory 239 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 17: because they suffered for too long. And remember, inflation is 240 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 17: like the largest tax people pay. 241 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: It's an unpredictable tax. 242 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 17: You're on a treadmill, you earn well, you've invest in 243 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 17: your business, and inflation eroads you're well being. So I 244 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 17: think ultimately that's what we have to think about. And 245 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 17: that's really enough to think about, frankly, and that's where 246 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 17: my focus is. So other things are not distracting us 247 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 17: from our core missions, and our core missions, as we 248 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 17: all know, have come from Congress. 249 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 18: Essentially, you're saying we are going to remain focused on inflation. 250 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 18: We're not going to consider cutting rates until we are 251 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 18: sure inflations. 252 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 4: I did not say that. 253 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 18: I have punny words in her mouth to make it 254 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 18: easier for the headline writers. 255 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 17: I know that, and so that's why I did not 256 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 17: say that so that they understand the next part of that. 257 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: No, seriously, I think right. 258 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 17: Now, when I look at the economy and policy, I 259 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 17: see them as both in a good place. When I 260 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 17: look out, we really have interest rates for a significant 261 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 17: number of years now in restrictive territory, and what we 262 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 17: have is an underlying economy that is responding those higher 263 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 17: interest rates. 264 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: You have growth slowing. 265 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 17: The broathy labor market that was pervasive after the pandemic 266 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 17: has now moved to a more sustainable place. People are 267 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 17: getting jobs, but firms are finding it easier to find 268 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 17: workers and importantly keep workers so that they're not constantly 269 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 17: on that revolving door of train and work of the 270 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 17: worker leave. So I think those are all good positions. 271 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: Then we have inflation coming down. 272 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 17: And if we extract our move away from just the 273 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 17: goods price inflations, which do show those numbers have been showing, 274 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 17: and certainly showed in this week's print, the effective tariffs 275 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 17: some of those being passed through. But if you look 276 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 17: at the other areas of inflation, you just don't see 277 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 17: that inflation is pushing back up. You see it gradually 278 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 17: going down, and housing services inflation, which has long been elevated, 279 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 17: has been coming down. 280 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: Over this year. 281 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 17: Services inflation without housing has been coming down, slowly but 282 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 17: coming down. So I see these is the result of 283 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 17: the policy that we have in place. But at some point, 284 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 17: if you hold the economy too tight the reins were 285 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 17: in Horse Country. 286 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: If you hold the bridle too tight, you actually end 287 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: up stopping. 288 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 17: And if you stop, then you take the problem people 289 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 17: did have, which was inflation, and turn it into a 290 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 17: problem that they don't have, which is the labor market. 291 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 18: Could you explain to this audience, and of course the 292 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 18: guy at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue if he's listening, how 293 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 18: you put all that together and decide when the winterst 294 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 18: rates come down. 295 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 17: Well, there's always been three scenarios that were possible. So 296 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 17: the first scenario was that we'd get the tariff effect 297 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 17: and it would spill over into all other sectors. So 298 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 17: if the price of a tariff good goes up, then 299 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 17: your person cutting your hair, since we were talking about. 300 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: Barber's earlier, raises his or her prices, and. 301 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 17: Suddenly you've got spillover that would make it more persistent. 302 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 17: We haven't seen any evidence that that's occurring. And I 303 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 17: think that the house price inflation, the house services inflation, 304 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 17: and the services inflation coming down reassures you that we're 305 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 17: not getting that persistent component. 306 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 4: So then there's two other scenarios. 307 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 17: One is that you get the tariff effect and its 308 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 17: it's relatively contained and it becomes a one off. And 309 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 17: the second is you just don't see much of the 310 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 17: effect because what happens is that as the tariffs settle in. 311 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: To whatever level they're going to be. 312 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 17: You know, firms who are importing from other countries say 313 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 17: you take half, I'll take half to the country. Then 314 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 17: down the by chain or the production chain, you're splitting 315 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 17: it all the way so that by the time it 316 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 17: hits consumers, it's a more muted impact than. 317 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: What is the announced tariffs. 318 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 17: You know, one of the pieces of evidence we have 319 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 17: for that is that the effective teriff right as of 320 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 17: last week was calculator around sixteen percent, but tariff revenue 321 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 17: is only eight percent. 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