1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: I am, like Spofford, sitting alongside my trusted colleague Wes 3 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: hodkowits West new season, new presentation here for the show. 4 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: We are no longer on local cable, which means we 5 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: are on the world wide Web. So a drawback. You 6 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: don't get to say on your resume that your reality 7 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: TV star anymore. I lost that ability, Michael. But you 8 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: know what's really cool about this. You and I have 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: done over three episodes now we're counting down at the 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: end of last season. 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Maybe you've never seen 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: it before, but West Training Camp for the Green Bay 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Packers is upon us. First practice on Thursday at Ray 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: Nichky Field just across the street here from Lambeau. Let's 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: just get right into it. Offensive side of the ball. 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: The key storylines in this training camp. What are you 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: watching for? Well, first and foremost, Mike, I can't believe 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: we're already at this point again, how quickly that offseason 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: goes by. Are are six months removed from last season. 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: But I think the stuff on offense that I'm looking 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: most forward to seeing is really how these young guys 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: that are going to be given some opportunities react. Jordy 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: Nelson is no longer here. We know the situation that's 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: unfolding at the quarterback position with Deshaun Kaiser coming in 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: through a trade, the three headed monster in the backfield 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: with Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams in Time Montgomery. But more 35 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: than anything, I guess what I'm looking for is that 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: offensive line. And last year, at this time, you look 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: at guys like Justin McCrae, Lucas Patrick Uh To a 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: lot of people the casual fan, they were just writing 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: those guys off right from the beginning that they camp, 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: body type players, and both of them end up having 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: a pretty big impact over the course of the season. 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: Stepping up. Justin McCraw having one of the best seasons 43 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: I think of anyone on the offensive side of the ball. 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: Now he's gonna have a chance to compete for a 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: starting job at right guards. So for me going in, 46 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I think I look for the next Justin mccraig, not 47 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: just on the offensive line, a guy that maybe is 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: that towards the bottom of that depth chart, but through 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: either whether it's injuries, opportunities, what have you, having an 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to really show their skill set and end up 51 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: making this fifty three man roster. Yeah, the competition on 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball a number of positions here, 53 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: not just the offensive line obviously, will find out whatever 54 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: the latest update is on Brian Blogg at right tackle, 55 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: will he be possibly be ready for Week one if not, 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Jason Spriggs, Kyle Murphy, guys like that competing to start 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: in week one at right tackle. You mentioned Justin McCrae 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: at right guard, Lucas Patrick, the draft pick, Cole Madison 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: from Washington State will be in that mix. Then you 60 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: look at wide receiver when you're talking about draft picks too. 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: We know at the top of it, Davante Adams, Randall Cobb. 62 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: You've got Jimmy Graham and Marcedes Lewis as your top 63 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: two tight ends free agent acquisitions in the off season, 64 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: but after that, as far as catching passes from Aaron Rodgers, 65 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: it's pretty wide open, isn't it. It really is. And 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: one of the stories, you know, once the season or 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: once the off season programs over, you and I end 68 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: up doing a number of stories, kind of saving some content, 69 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: writing them throughout the end of June and into July. 70 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: And one of the stories that I thought was most 71 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: interesting was Jeronimo Allison. Yeah, at the receiver position. This 72 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: is a young man now with two years under his belt. Uh, 73 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, in the meeting rooms every time sat in 74 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: front of Jordy Nelson really had that osmosis learning process, 75 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: just constantly listening to what he had to say, Uh, 76 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: take pointers from him. And now he's in the driver's seat. 77 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: The Packers drafted three young, promising, big and quick receivers 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: this past year, but Jeronomoy Allison is a guy that 79 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: I think, when you go into this camp, is right 80 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: now slated at that number three position. And and while 81 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: they have had this whole influx of receivers the last 82 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: few seasons young that they've gotten through the draft. Allison's 83 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: out there to prove that, you know what I can be, 84 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: that guy can be counted on. He feels like he's 85 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: developed a trust and a report with Aaron Rodgers. So 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: when again, when you line up those names on the 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, I think he's one of 88 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: the ones that I'm most excited to watch and seeing 89 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: if he can make that number, you know, the third 90 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: year jump. Now. Yeah. One of the things that really 91 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: struck me about that story you wrote on Allison, I 92 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: believe it were it was a couple of comments you 93 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: had from Davante as showed that really showed that for 94 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: a young guy whose production has been somewhat limited, he 95 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: stepped up in certain situations, but he's been a rather 96 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: quiet guy his first couple of years. He's earned a 97 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: certain level of respect in that receiver's room already, even 98 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: though he doesn't have the hundred and fifty yard game 99 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: or the or the two three touchdown game on his resume. 100 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: Early in his career, he's earned a certain level of 101 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: respect from guys like Adams and Cobb in that receiver room, 102 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: and something like that can go a long way because 103 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: this competition is going to be rather fierce. When you're 104 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: talking Jamon Moore, e q st Brown, Marquez Valdes, Scantling, 105 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: the three rookie draft picks, all of these guys, they 106 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: bring a lot of different skills to the table. These 107 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: three guys are not three p's in a pot in 108 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: my opinion, They're very different receivers. So the way the 109 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: Packers coaching staff is gonna mix and match and try 110 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: to figure out matchups and who does who does what 111 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: best and where they line up, it's really going to 112 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: be interesting to watch, absolutely, and especially from Allison's point 113 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: of view, him really trying to take that next step. 114 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: We've seen receivers come in undrafted and make an impact. 115 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: Jared Boykin had a good year, obviously, Brett sway the 116 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: number of years that he was here, Ruvel Martin. But 117 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: the thing that I like about what Allison has done 118 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: is he's kind of each year taking that step not 119 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: only to special teams, but trying to make an impact 120 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: on offense. The table set for him. And and this 121 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: is a team that's definitely looking for that number three. 122 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: And even though I would imagine, you know, Jimmy Graham 123 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: of those two tight end sets will be pretty prevalent 124 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: in this offense as well, and on the offensive side 125 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: of the ball. I don't want to dismiss the backup 126 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: quarterback battle between Deshaun Kayser Brett Hunley. I think we're 127 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about that a lot as we get 128 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: into the preseason games and seeing how they perform against 129 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: other opponents. But I do want to shift gears to 130 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: the defensive side in terms of the storylines that are 131 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: developing here. If there's one maybe defensive storyline that you 132 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: have your eye on the most, what is it? It's 133 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: a secondary obviously, and just because of all of the 134 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: adjustments the Packers made this offset offseason. This is the 135 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: biggest overhaul they've had in nine years with the secondary 136 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: and it you know, they bring in Mike Petton as 137 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinea, but you could tell early on how 138 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: important it was to both Mike McCarthy and Petton to 139 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: retain Joe Witt and have him still leading that group. 140 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: Truman Williams comes back, Devon House has resigned. They draft 141 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: two new cornerbacks and Jaire Alexander and Josh Jackson, and 142 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: seeing how those young players and some of these returning 143 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: players all match up secondary was that was that was 144 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: a hard position for the Packers last year. I think 145 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: everybody's agreement there. They took a lot of hits, Scott 146 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: banged up, and they need to improve going into two 147 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen. But there's so many guys with returning experience now, 148 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: Kevin King coming back off the shoulder injury, Quinton Rollins 149 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: coming back off the Achilles injury, meshing with these young 150 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: players coming in that cornerback position specifically, nothing is settled 151 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: there right now. You don't know who's lining up where. 152 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: Into me, that's one of the more exciting things about 153 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: this They have options, and there's also gonna be a 154 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: lot of competition that's going to come out of those options. Yeah, 155 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: I agree with you in terms of watching how sort 156 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: of the new players, so to speak, mesh with some 157 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: of the veterans, and and what I mean by that 158 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: when you look at how the seventeen season ended and 159 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: then you look at what this defense now appears to 160 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: be going into You mentioned Kevin King's back from the 161 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: shoulder injury, Quentin Rollins from the Achilles injury. You drafted 162 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: or In Burke's an inside linebacker, You drafted those two 163 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: cornerbacks and Alexander and Jackson. You signed Mohammed Wilkerson as 164 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: free agent. On the defensive line, you're getting Montravius Adams 165 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: back from essentially a red shirt year with his as 166 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: a third round draft pick out of Auburn, not much 167 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: of a rookie season because of injuries. Same with Vince 168 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: Bagel at outside linebacker coming out of Wisconsin. A lot 169 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: of new players, young and old in a sense when 170 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: you talk about Wilkerson and guys like Traumont Williams coming 171 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: into the mix, new and old mixing in with the 172 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: guys who were here and the guys who finished. A 173 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: new coordinator, some new scheme ideas, all that kind of stuff. 174 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: This is this is going to be the ongoing story 175 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: really through not only the beginning of the season, but 176 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: perhaps the entire the entire four months of the regular season. 177 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why I think there is 178 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: a lot of hope and I've seen the insider inbox 179 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: when you and I have answering questions with this defense 180 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: as a whole. As zest, They've brought in some veterans, 181 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: but there's familiarity there with Wilkerson and his ties to 182 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: Petton in their first two seasons together, having those two 183 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: seasons when Petton was the head coach of the Brown 184 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: So there isn't gonna be this quantum leap that these 185 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: guys are gonna have to make into his scheme. And 186 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: then you also to mention that back end. I mean 187 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: you have ha ha, Clinton Dix. You know, obviously he's 188 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: talked about it all offseason, looking to return to form, 189 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: believes that this scheme will bring out the best in him. 190 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: Josh Jones being able to focus strictly on the safety 191 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: position the Packers believing that will behoove him. And then 192 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: also Kentroll, Bryce comes back off of the ankling. That 193 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: was the guy. When I was rattling off all those 194 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: guys coming back, I forgot about Bryce. That was another 195 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: one who his name was on the tip of my tongue. 196 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, you talk about a guy who was looking 197 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: like he could make an impact on this defense last year. 198 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: Then he goes down with the injury. We didn't hear 199 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: from him again. He's back and seems to be ready 200 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, and I thought that was so important 201 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: for him to actually be able to participate in all 202 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: the off season program and he got a lot of 203 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: reps to uh, you know between some of the practices 204 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: that Clinton Dix wasn't here for Josh Jones at times 205 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: they were kind of you know, they took caution with him. 206 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: He got a lot of work and you know, you 207 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: talked to him during the offseason program. Mike McCarthy really 208 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: praised him for for the off season he put together 209 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: coming off of injury. He's a hungry guy and a 210 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: big hitter and those two things together when you look 211 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: historically with the Packers secondary, that's where you've seen guys 212 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: have successes undrafted free agents and and I think Bryce 213 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 1: has all the intangibles to fit into that. Yeah, I 214 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: would agree. Another topic I want to hit on here West, 215 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: what do you see what's out there as a potential 216 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: surprise maybe in this training camp. Now, it's kind of 217 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: a misnomer because if we're talking about potential surprises, then 218 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: is it really a surprise when it happens. But just 219 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: wondering what what out there to you is kind of 220 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: under the radar, maybe something people aren't necessarily paying attention to, 221 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: or it's not a top of mind thing, but but 222 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: that maybe is a developing story here through camp. What 223 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: Mike Petton's grand plan is going to be for this defense. 224 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: We've been reading Tea Leaves all off season, the transactions 225 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: that they made, the emphasis on the defensive line, drafting 226 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks, drafting a hybrid type player like Orn Burke's 227 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: to to settle into that inside backer situation with Blake 228 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: Martinez and Jake Ryan. Uh. This again, as I mentioned 229 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: in the intro, this is the biggest overhaul the Packers 230 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: have had on defense in almost a decade. So what 231 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: is Mike Petton's plan going to be for this unit? 232 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: And I think one thing that was interesting Insider in 233 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,239 Speaker 1: Box somebody had asked this week, what are the telltale 234 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: signs of whether or not Petton's defense, when you look statistically, 235 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: is going to accomplish what it wants to accomplish. And 236 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: I think the thing that's unique about his scheme is 237 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: he's had success in a number of ways. He's done 238 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: it with a guy like Durrell Revas playing defensive player 239 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: of the year type season. There's been years where the 240 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Jets didn't have a ton of sacks but still were 241 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: incredibly effective. Uh with with their overall scheme, I just 242 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: think there's so many different ways he can win in 243 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: seeing what his mental approach is going to be, to 244 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: the pieces that he has in place in both also 245 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: the incoming UH players the Packers have added this offseason. 246 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: Seeing how he marries those two ideas. To me, I 247 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: think whatever it ends up being is going to be 248 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: the biggest surprise. Yeah. I want to touch on one 249 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: thing with regards to special teams, and that's what really 250 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: is going to be a developing competition at long snapper 251 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: because I think when the Packers drafted Hunter Bradley seventh 252 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: round out of Mississippi State to be the long snapper, 253 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people just said, Okay, there's 254 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: your new long snapper. They used to draft pick on 255 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: the guy Zach Trainer. He's not just gonna go away here. 256 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to be a legitimate competition 257 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: between Zach Tchiner and Hunter Bradley. Two guys, uh. You know, 258 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: both got to the specialist route in very different ways. 259 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: You had chronicled with Hunter Bradley, the multiple A c 260 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: L surgeries kind of took him out of the potential 261 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: of being a tight end in college, so then he 262 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: relegated himself to specialists. But um, but these two guys, 263 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: we saw them alternate snaps um during O t s 264 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: and whatnot. So this is something that I think is 265 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: going to continue into the preseason games. But then another 266 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: issue on offense that I think is worth watching is 267 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: this whole chemistry issue between not only Aaron Rodgers and 268 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: some of these young receivers if they make their way 269 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: up the depth chart and get those opportunities for snaps 270 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: with the number one quarterback, but Aaron Rodgers with Jimmy Graham, 271 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: we saw a couple of years ago how quickly the 272 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: chemistry developed with Jared Cook when he was brought in. 273 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: It didn't really come to fruition in the regular season 274 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: because of the injuries to Cook where he had to 275 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: miss a chunk of time. We even saw it last year. 276 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: Frankly with Martellis Bennett. It didn't take long for Bennett 277 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: and Rodgers to get on the same page. I think 278 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Bennett just dropped too many passes. He just wasn't reliable enough, 279 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: and then obviously things you know, kind of went south 280 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: from there. But Aaron Rodgers, I've said it several times, 281 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: he sounds so genuinely excited to me for what Jimmy 282 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Graham can bring to this offense and the fact that 283 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: this guy is a part of this offense, now do 284 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: you get the same sense? Absolutely? And and to me personally, 285 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: I think it even goes one step deeper than that. 286 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: It isn't just Rogers. It's a guy like Randall Cobb 287 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: and and guys that can play multiple positions inside outside, 288 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: and what exactly the thought process is going to be 289 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: there with Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers and obviously Joe 290 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: Philbin coming back trying to really lay out this new 291 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: offense and in how it's going to be utilized. I 292 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: really think that the best friend for Cobb this season 293 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: and be Graham because both of those guys can be 294 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: effective in the middle of the field. We've seen what 295 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: they can do with the big plays over the years 296 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: and seeing how they can kind of line up and 297 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: how much fun the Packers could have with those matchups. 298 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Graham and someone again getting back 299 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: to inbox, somebody had asked this week to the Packers, 300 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, do you see him having a season like 301 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: he had, you know, those thousand yard touchdown seasons with 302 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: the Saints all those years ago. It's possible you know, 303 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: if a guy ends up playing the entire year and 304 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: gets those snaps. We've seen the chemistry that Aaron Rodgers 305 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: can develop with the tight end if he's there week 306 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: in and week out. I don't think that's the prerequisite 307 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: for this to be a successful signing, though. If Graham 308 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: creates that matchup nightmare, if he makes defenses make a 309 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: decision on how they're going to defend him, and also 310 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: to that to that extreme, you know Marcedes Lewis coming 311 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: into this offense as well. All those things together, I 312 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: think are ultimately what are going to help this offense 313 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: get to where it needs to be, because we've seen 314 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: when the tight end position makes an impact exactly the 315 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: domino effect it can have for the rest of the players. Yeah, 316 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: I've been in our Insider inbox column. You just have 317 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: to look at the stretch run in two sixteen when 318 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: Jared Cook came back, how different the offense looked and 319 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: how suddenly explosive it was. The Packers could that stretch run, 320 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, the run, the table, whatever you want to 321 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: call it. At the end of the Packers were scoring 322 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of points. And as rough as that game 323 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: against Washington was, that year. I think there was sort 324 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: of this feeling that, you know what, we found something 325 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: that was kind of the coming out party in a 326 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: sense of what this offense was going to be down 327 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: the stretch. And I think Aaron Rodgers senses that Jimmy 328 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: Graham can can be that that missing piece that uh 329 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: that Jared Cook was Now granted, you still have to 330 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: make up for the loss of Jordy Nelson because Jordy 331 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: Nelson was a big player in absolutely and that's where 332 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: it's It's on everybody. I think. You know, Randall cob 333 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: reiterated again last week during one of his appearances, I mean, 334 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: it isn't one player that's going to replace Nelson. It's 335 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: going to be the whole, and you know, Graham is 336 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: a big part of that, but it's gonna be those 337 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: young receivers as well. Yeah. Alright, well, one last topic 338 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: I want to hit on West before we go here 339 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: on our inaugural eighteen Packers unscripted. Okay, we're all, you know, 340 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: we cross our fingers. We want guys to stay healthy. 341 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: We want the Packers obviously to be ready healthy for 342 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: Week one Chicago Bears. But aside from that, what is 343 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: something that you want to be able to say about 344 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: this Packers team at the end of training camp. It's 345 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: kind of cliche, but they're ready. Uh. You know, I 346 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: think one of the things that last year, for as 347 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: many things obviously has went wrong through the stretch run, 348 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: by the end of the training camp, you had a 349 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: pretty good idea that, hey, Justin mccraig could be a 350 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: guy that you could kind of lean on here if 351 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: you need him. He played really well during the preseason. 352 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: I think you saw the young running backs really step 353 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: up and get a hint of what they can offer. Uh. 354 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: If this team, and I don't Randall Cobbs is gonna 355 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: be ready. You look at Davante Adams, Aaron Rodgers, those 356 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: guys there, they are what they are and you know, 357 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: and they have, you know, the season in front of them. 358 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: They know what it's like. But you want to see, 359 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Warren Burke's, you know, maybe 360 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: make his presence felt a little bit. You want to 361 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: see some of these second year players coming back um 362 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: and showing what they have to offer. I look at 363 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: a guy like Vin Spiegel too, who didn't have a 364 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: training camp last year, who played sparling during the season 365 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: after he had to play catch up for three months. Uh, 366 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: what can he do now that you give him some snaps? 367 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: Can can a guy like Reggie Gilbert build on what 368 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: he did last year? So I I look at that 369 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: starting lineup as the starting lineup and and you know 370 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: your catalysts, and we're gonna get you where you're gonna 371 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: go over the season. But do you start to see 372 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: some of those young players pushing some of those starting spots. 373 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: I think that's the number one thing all my eye on. Yeah, 374 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: that's what I want to be able to say. Two 375 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: is at that edge rusher position. I know Mike Petton 376 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: has talked about the importance of the inside rush. It's 377 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: why the Packers have kind of loaded up, so to speak, 378 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: on the defensive line. He's looking to generate the inside pressure. 379 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: There was there weren't a whole lot of additions to 380 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: the outside linebacker position. But when you talk about that 381 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: group behind Clay Matthews and Nick Perry, you're talking Chris Odom, 382 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: Vince Biegel, Kyler, Facral Kendall, Donnerson, the seventh round draft pick, 383 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: Reggie Gilbert. Those guys I want to be able to 384 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: say at the end of training camp, that a couple 385 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: of those guys have really up to the forefront and 386 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: when they need to step in for Clay Matthews and 387 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: Nick Perry, it's not going to be suddenly this big 388 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: drop off on the defense, or that there are worries 389 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: about what's going to happen at those edge positions. This 390 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: is a huge opportunity at edge rusher for all of 391 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: these young guys. Somebody, and hopefully it's more than one guy, 392 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: takes the bull by the horns and says I'm gonna 393 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: be that next guy up behind Matthews and Perry, and 394 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: then somebody else is like, I'm the next guy behind him. 395 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: I want to see some separation here. I'm not saying 396 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: I want, you know, certain guys to not make the team, 397 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: but I want to see some separation that a couple 398 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: of these young guys, you know, sort of state their 399 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: case and say and say we're the ones you can 400 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: count out. And I know it's fun for a lot 401 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: of fans out there to do the maddened thing and 402 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, sign this free agent corner bar when 403 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: you should have gone after him. But I think last 404 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: year with almad Brooks kind of showed you that it's 405 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: not easy even for veterans to come in and make 406 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: a meaningful impact, you know, midway through camp or at 407 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 1: the end of camp. A lot of times it is 408 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: building up those young guys to step into those roles. 409 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: Julius Peppers was lightning in a bottle. You can't count 410 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: on that every single year. You need other guys to 411 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: emerge and and I think this camp is going to 412 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: go a long way and really identifying who those players 413 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: could be. Yeah, well, we've got a lot to talk 414 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: about over the next month. Here first practices on Thursday. 415 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: But with that we will call it a rap on 416 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: this edition of Packers Unscripted. You should have follow all 417 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: of our coverage of the team on Packers dot com. 418 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: On Twitter, you can find him at west hod I 419 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: am At, Mike Spofford at Packers of course for the 420 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody, We'll see you 421 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: next time.