WEBVTT - #86 - Bas 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:12.719 All right, welcome, we got a new podcast. Alert Boss 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:17.160 from Dreamville is on the show Ladies and Gentlemen. First 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.799 of all, he just showed his ass on the off season, 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.360 showed his ass on Revenge of the Dreamers three, and 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:25.560 he just dropped his new single, the Jackie feature in 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.360 Little TJ and J Cole. That's going crazy, so I 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.360 had to have the homie pull up. And let me 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.040 tell you something. This guy's got some records in the 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.000 vault that are crazy. So shout out to my dog Boss. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:36.919 Before we get into that, the shout out to our 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.080 lovely sponsors over at odd Socks. Go to odd socksoficial 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.320 dot com. 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Let's do it Yo boutlet, Cavs 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.039 show special guests in here. My guy boss is here. Man, 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.560 what going on? Bro? Appreciate you? Yes, sir man, it's 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.400 been a You've had a hell of a year so far. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:25.720 For real, we're kind of just getting this started. But 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.040 you know, like all years, there's a lot of plot 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:32.240 and involved beforehand, one hundred percent. Man, talk about like, 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.520 you know, first of all, Milky Way. It feels like 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.360 it's been a few years. When would Milkyway come out 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.319 twenty eighteen? Twenty eighteen? Yeah, so it's been like I mean, 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.800 obviously you've been active since then, you know, uh the 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.120 Dream album. Yeah, so it's not like you ain't been 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.720 you know, But but I'm sure this body of work 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.640 that you're cooking up has got to be worth the 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.640 way you know you're taking it's always trying to like 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.800 evolve and grow and bring something new with every project. 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.200 So I think, you know, obviously everyone had a year 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.200 where we had to take a step back. But I 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.200 kind of put that to Youston and just try to 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.280 keep reinvaying my style and keep adding, you know, keep 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.399 adding new levels to it. Yeah. It's crazy because on 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.680 Cole's album, like when I first press played, I don't 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.160 think you could see the features on there. When I 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:19.960 don't know, however, I was listening, I couldn't see any 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.000 of the features, right, So I was just pressing play, 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:23.240 And then I went on Twitter and I was like, Yo, 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.560 that was Boss on the like yeah, dipping into your 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.200 melody bag, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:30.880 you know, just trying to go out the comfort zone. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.120 I was down there with Cole. That's one thing, you know, 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.480 we were kind of preaching, and throughout that whole process 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.720 we actually did the Jackie. Like those same like three 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.360 four days that I was down there working on on 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.720 that record happened during the off season sessions. Yeah. Yeah. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.799 It was like Cole has like a very set time 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:50.720 he'd be in the studio, so he got a lot 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.120 of other things going on. So we had like thirty 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.480 minutes left. I think we had just finished doing like 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.120 some background vocals on one of the records. Might have 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.680 been like let go my hand, and he was like, yo, 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:03.360 let's pull up a beat and just like do something 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.040 in like thirty. So you pulled up a T minus folder. 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.840 First beat he played was the Jackie and we just 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.400 looked at each other like yeah, like say less like 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.280 pull that one up, got on the mic, and you know, 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.440 just challenging ourselves not to to feel some things, you 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.440 know what I mean, as opposed to like be so 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.600 clinical with the writing and just trying to push yourself 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.560 out of that comfort zone like I usually the type 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.080 of sit there and like get all my words right 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:30.560 and the be like all right, you know, I'm ready 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:31.840 to do my verse. And it was like, you know 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.680 whatnot just get on there and do what you feel, 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.680 you know what I mean, do like what comes to 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.000 you like naturally, and then you know, you can refine 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.400 it from there and go back and work on how 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.720 clever you want to make and whatnot. But there's certain 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.760 things you can't replace, you know. And that's something like 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.800 I'll even watch like some of the some of the 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.560 younger kids, Now that's all they do, you know, that's 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.440 all they do. They'll just go fill out the beat 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.840 and the booth, yeah, and worry about feeling in the 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.360 lyrics and later yeah, right right right, and there's there's 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.880 you know, I feel like there's something learn from everyone's 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.200 process for sure, and now something I was able to 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.640 kind of apply to myself, like, you know, just just 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.120 let loose a little bit, like don't even think about it, like, 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.280 what's the melody that comes to you? What? You know 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:11.920 what I mean, what's the feeling that comes to you? 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.800 And you know, we did the Jackie in like thirty minutes, 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.160 so that's kind of new for your process. Usually you 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.600 would just like, yeah, I'm gonna write some ill shit, right, 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.640 I'm gonna go as hard as I can, right, even 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.560 if I have the melody, Like I'll sit there and 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.880 I'll write the song out, you know, and then I'll 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:29.520 go like lay it down. And this was just more 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.120 like all right, what are these first four bars? Boom? 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.039 What are the next four bars? Okay? Now, how do 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.120 we you know, take it somewhere different, you know for 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:42.080 the listener? How do we keep it dynamic? Right? It 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.080 was a It was a fun process for sure, and 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.520 Cole was there the whole time, like just like you know, 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.480 trying to keep pushing me out my comfort zone. That's 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.920 how we did a lot of his records, and then 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.080 it just kind of spilled over into the yn't say 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.839 like like for his records, like was did he have 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.719 like a vision for where you were like fitting in 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.039 on the joint? Yeah. So I did this song called 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.200 Risk with FKJ french Q we juice shout out. My 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.680 guy did that like probably year and a half ago. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:13.080 And on that I was doing a lot of those 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.200 melodies and stacking my vocals and you know, doing a 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.040 bunch of that stuff. And when we came in to 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:20.720 work on Col's album, he was like I want that 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.000 buyas you know, He's like I want to I want 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:24.960 you to work on that more and like bring that 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:29.039 energy to these songs. So me and me and k Quick, 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:33.359 who records me. He's a producer, engineer, all that, but 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.880 he's also like an incredible vocalist, you know, so he's 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.800 really good at kind of pointing out certain things or 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.960 you know, try it in this tone, try it in 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.760 that tone. We just sat there every night and we 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.920 figured it out. Like whatever song Cole gave us, we 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:48.839 would just sit in the room and be like, okay, 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.120 like let's bring the wave to it. Yeah, It's crazy 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.200 because the one thing that I took like from like 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.760 the process for off season that I really appreciated about 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.800 somebody who's as big as Cole is on the mount 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.960 right now, you know, like, was it seemed like he 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:09.480 really was extremely dedicated to making sure he was better 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.440 at wrapping this go round, like you know, Like I 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.160 watched the documentary, I was like, Yo, this fool was 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.360 like really like almost like in the gym, like in 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.839 both ways, because he was training in the gym as well, 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.560 but like on some bar shit as well. Like I 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.840 feel like this is the sharpest he's ever been on 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.320 like lyrically, and it's crazy to say that so so 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.560 so many years in. But did that inspire you and 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.719 like your album or like the way you're kind of 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.680 approaching I mean, yeah, it definitely, especially when I had 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.240 spent most of the year just working at the crib 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.280 by myself, and I'm a very collaborative artist, so it's 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.599 good to get in again with Bro. And then also 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.599 just to see like, you know, here's here's a dude 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:52.320 who has the world and he's like so focused every 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.320 day on getting better, you know what I mean, Like, 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:58.640 what's your excuse? Yeah, that'll definitely like just light a 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.200 fire under your or know, just make you feel like 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.880 I can and I should be doing more. One hundred man, 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.960 do we have there's the speculation that you're supposed to 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:10.920 announce your album with Elliott One. This is gonna come 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.720 out after that? Oh no, you are you announcing an 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:17.760 album or Okay, I'm saying we're talking with Yeah, I'm 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.000 not announcing, but we're getting any album before the end 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.080 of the year, of course. Yeah, before the end of 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:23.760 the year. Yeah, for sure. I've just been in the 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.320 zone though, honestly, where I try to be intentional with 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.800 everything I do, and when I look at it and 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.240 I'm like, you know, I'm very proud of the albums 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.760 I've made and and when I look at the challenges 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.560 that I've set for myself. It was a song like 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.080 the Jackie. You know, I got another single in the 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.760 works that I'm really excited about, and I'm just kind 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.160 of challenging myself to make bigger records. Even like what 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.080 we said earlier about the energy is different around this one. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:55.080 You feel me it's like trying to challenge myself, like 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.120 what is the next frontier in my own career? What 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.800 is the next you know, what are the next levels? 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:01.760 I want to hear? What of the next thing is? 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.080 I want to challenge myself as an artist to create, 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.720 you know what I mean. So it's like I feel 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:10.000 like I'm always going to be in love with making 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:13.240 a cohesive body of work. You know, that's going to 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.640 give you like my mentality. But a lot of what 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.240 I've been challenging myself to do is like make make 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:24.080 these big records. How do you elevate exactly? So that's 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.120 that's been like a major focus on mine. I've tried 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.720 to really stay intentional with that. Yeah, No, I think 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.520 like I you know, I think you're you have an 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:37.720 incredible fan base, but I still think in terms of 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.679 like the grand scheme of who gets talked about your 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.000 slept on Still yeah, absolutely, I agree, you know what 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:45.800 I mean, There's not a lot of people who have 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.240 an album better than Too High a Riot. You know 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.680 what I'm saying. Thank you, But like I think that 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.600 I mean that You're right, like you gotta like, yo, 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.199 you gotta get some people to come to the park. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.079 You know, you can't a lot to yourself. You gotta 0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:59.640 look at where you are, where you want to be 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.160 and the things you gotta achieve to get there, you know. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.920 And then and the beauty of it is like the 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.880 art of it is doing it, you know, within your sound, 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.719 within like all the songs I make and even the 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:13.800 Jaggie like my fan base don't hear that and be 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:15.440 like what the hell? Yeah, like what is he doing? Man? 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.560 It sold out? Not for sure? If you heard Milky Way, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.080 it's kind of like a direct like percnding of of 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.280 that kind of sound and that vibe and that energy. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.480 So it's like that's the fun part of it. It's like, okay, 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.760 like I know my sound. I figured out my sound, 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.320 you know, and that's the fun part of the artistry 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.640 is just to keep expanding what you can do and 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.000 what you can achieve, you know. So that was like 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:37.839 the next frontier for me. I'm like, you know what, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.679 like I want to make some hits. How good did 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:44.440 it feel to get your first solo plaque? Incredible? I 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:49.680 got caught a couple. But because tribaling gold right, Tribal 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.880 platinum platinum? Yeah, that's my job. Night job went gold. 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.160 I don't see down bad is platinum and Costa Rican 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:01.080 now I think too, that's huge man, Yeah, thank you, bro. 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:02.839 You pull it to the crib. You got your your own, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:08.160 your own plaques. Yeah, that's it's definitely. It's a blessing, bro, 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.600 It's a blessing. Like shout out to the whole team. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:13.320 You know, we've been at it for a minute and 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.800 it you know, I'm somewhere where people really believe in 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.360 that artists development. You know, you gotta get ship is 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.720 a beautiful thing because you know a lot of labels 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.880 they're not you know what it is, man, They're they're 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.280 looking for that well, and they're also looking for something 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.280 that's already on fire so they can just put some 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:33.079 gasoline right, something that's already viral. Yeah, dream Dreamville. I 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.840 feel like it's done a superb job of growing each artist, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.920 you know what I'm saying. It yourself or Ari or 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.959 cars Like, it's like, man, it's like you see your 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.560 guys is just come up. Yeah. Everybody's got a touring base. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.960 You know, everyone's got an album naked tour, several albums 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:53.280 they can tour. You know, we're kind of like in 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.880 phase two now. It's like Marvel, you know what I mean. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:57.959 It's the MCU. It's just going in the phase two. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.920 Everybody's trying. It's crazy. It's a good a good comparison. Yeah. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.760 Uh you mentioned like being a home a lot during 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.679 the pandemic, and shit, like how did that affect you? 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.560 Just you know, because some people I know fucked with 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.200 their mental like especially being an artist, you're not able 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.760 to you know, you probably would have been a road 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.200 like there would have probably been some sort of Dreamville tour, 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.360 right for sure, you know what I'm saying, Like, you 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.199 know what I think creatively, it helped me tap into 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:27.440 some very like introspective raps that I was I was 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.560 missing in a sense because my life prior to that 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.320 was like six seven years on the road and kind 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.240 of ingesting all these road experiences and they're coming out 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.160 and just gave me a lot of time to just 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:43.280 sit back and reflect and like dig deeper on things 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.720 I wanted to say. But you know, in the same token, 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.319 I was missing the other side of it. I really 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:52.760 like traveling is like probably the biggest part of inspiration, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:57.040 one of these other country cities whatever, liking with people collaborating. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.240 So I missed that a lot. I missed out a lot. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.800 But you know, I think you just got to make 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.599 use of every situation. So for me, it was like, 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.200 all right, how do I dig deeper? How do I 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.040 talk about what's really on my mind? How do I 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.600 talk about the things I know, you know, other people 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:18.120 are going through right now, just being isolated and feeling stagnant, 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.280 you know what I mean? Yeah, man, shit, I mean 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.120 I have my fucking kids and my wife, and I 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.240 still feel like this shit sucks. Yeah, especially being in LA, 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.600 because LA was like super shut the fuck down. Were 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.600 you out here most of the pandemic? Yeah, most of it. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:32.320 I was gonna go to New York. I was gonna 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.120 go back home. But every time I'm called IM just 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.480 be like, bro, like, don't even do it. So like 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.240 I flew my parents out here and had them out 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.520 here for like a couple of months. I mean, that's dope. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.559 You probably got to spend some time at your parents. Yeah, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:48.240 my nephews, like you know, they're like two and like one, 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.200 and shit like forced you to hang out with your 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.360 family more for sure, for real for sure, and even 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.559 like your close friends, you start to realize, like them, 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.160 there's a lot of things we don't even talk about, 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:00.679 you know what I mean. Like I learned more about 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.760 some of the dudes I've known fifteen twenty years in 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:08.680 the past year that I did knowing them like you 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.680 know most of my life. It was just people were 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.079 in like a more vulnerable mental state and you feel me, like, 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.880 but you know, it's why you gotta support system facts. Man. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.000 Now It's crazy because like outside of just getting fat 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.320 as fucked during the pandemic, I just just trying shit. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.920 Bro was like I tried mushrooms during the pandemic. The 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.160 hell yeah, I was just had a good ass, a 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.720 few good ass and trips. Yeah yeah, yeah, like that 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.680 shit is you know, I think, like you said, like 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.400 there was pluses and minuses, and it just depends on 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.439 your perspective, cause some people let that shit really like 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.720 just take them out, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.800 take them off the map. Yeah nah, I mean you 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.559 just you know, like we say, you gott keeping perspect 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:51.719 Everybody was going through the same thing, you know what 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.240 I mean those times where, like I said, you have 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.520 all these plans and all these thoughts and all these 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.920 goals and you gotta realize, like nothing's advanced for anybody 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.440 right now, like just chill, enjoy this moment. I even 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.920 started thinking we need like once a decade, if it's 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.200 not a pandemic something like that, just give people like 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.040 six months off. Feel me, like, let everyone work from 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.439 home for six months and everybody regroup, you know what 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:18.080 I mean? Get a bad idea though, once a decade. Yeah, 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.320 for sure. You say you had some some so you 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:25.600 you fuck with the psychedelics? Yeah? Acid as a mushrooms? 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.600 What is? I've never done acid? I heard it's like 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.000 more like extremely visual. Yeah, I feel like so it 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.440 lasts a good bit longer than mushrooms. You're high, Its 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.600 probably twice as long the trip. But I feel like 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.920 sometimes with mushrooms you could kind of get into like 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.760 a dark spot in the trip where you're like facing 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.200 these these demons or whatever you've been running for, and 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.280 then you know, usually come out the other side of 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.880 a better person for it. With acid, like you always 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.720 know it's the drugs. You know, like you'll start tweeting like, oh, 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.400 it's the drugs. Man on to the next. I would 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.760 be like questioning your whole life's purpose. Take too much, 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.920 just some moments where you really have to look yourself 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.360 in the mirror. Acid is more like I'm gonna take 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.200 some ass I can go to the bar. Yeah, I'm saying, 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:12.880 you go to the bar, you can go around strangers. 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.920 I could have a full, like intellectual ass convo with 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.400 a random stranger on that. So the mushals, I kind 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.040 of just want to be with my core group for sure. Yeah. 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.320 And I had a bad trip and I was in 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.520 Texas tripping the fuck out, man, when I decided to 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.120 go bar hopping after I ate a whole bunch of 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.120 shrooms and an an edible yeah, bold, worst decision in 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.760 my life, you bowld. I was freaking fuck out. It 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.800 was a start looking at people in the bar like 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.400 this dough faced or something crazy. No, there was a 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:43.240 lady dancing and her face looked like you remember on 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:44.880 cops back in the day they used to have their 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:49.360 faces scrambled. And there was this bitch dancing in front 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.360 of us, and uh, I was with I was with 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.840 Freddi Gibbs, and I was like, yo, friend, is is 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.440 that bitch just we're both on shrooms. I was like, 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.600 is you see her face? And he's like, we saw 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.440 the same thing. He's like, Nah, it's all fucked up, bro, 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.080 And then some dudes came in. I was paring as fuck. Bro. 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.040 I thought, bro, I was, I was. It was a 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.360 bad look that I'm never doing shrooms ever again in 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.320 like a social area. It ain't that. But you could 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:21.720 do acid. You can do d MT nah. I have 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.040 so much of it in my freezer that my homie 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.800 got me on my birthday. You have a bunch of 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.840 your freezer. I have a bunch of my freezer right now. 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.280 You're don't have to get a crack pipe, you know that, right, 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.320 I'm like trying to trying to you know, I like 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:38.160 to do psychedelics, like when I when I'm either reached 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.200 a certain like usually like if I wrap up a project, 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:43.440 you know what I mean, Like it seems like I'm 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.400 putting a bowl on like a moment in life, you 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.160 know what I mean. I like to pick my moments 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.760 or maybe if I'm starting a project kind of deal, 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.360 so I like to pick. You gotta pick and choose 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.640 that ship because yeah, it's almost like you you do 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.320 it as as you like when you feel like you 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.720 need it exactly, like maybe if there's a wall or 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.679 something or that you can try to break through, or 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.000 you know what, right right, or if it's like all right, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.679 what's next? Right? Exactly? Like, give me a little bit 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.520 of clarity. Where am I going with this? This guy 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.639 got a freezer for a DMT I do right now? 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.840 Just that moment hasn't hit me yet. That shouldn't hit me. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:18.800 That sh it's like I heard it. I've never done DMT. 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:20.480 I want to do it. I just can't get my 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.359 fucking hands on any of it. But oh shit, I 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.560 got you. I say you got some. But also I'm 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.840 like scared because that's what I'm saying. That's where I'm 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.840 at with it too, Like I don't know, you literally 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.439 have to freebase that ship. And then I heard for 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.480 like fifteen minutes, you're just gone. Yeah, I don't even 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.879 want no one around with you, like you're gone. Like 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.840 I had a homie who said he he had like 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.040 a six month like like lived out six months of 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.600 his life and his DMT trip and then woke up 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.480 and it was only fifteen minutes long. He said he 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.720 had a girlfriend, he had a job, all kinds of shit. 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.800 That's crazy. So that's why I'm like, damn do I 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:56.760 I don't do I want to just I don't. 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