1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Benky's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: full of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. The Catholic Church has existed for nearly two millennia. 7 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: It's one of the oldest religious institutions in the West, 8 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: and an organization with such history is bound to have 9 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: a few secrets. For example, the Freemason's got their start 10 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: during the Middle Ages and are as mysterious today as 11 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: they were back then. Yet the symbols they leave behind 12 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: are everywhere. The square and compass has been spotted on 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: structures all over the world as evidence of Masonic involvements 14 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: in their construction. Other symbols, however, invite further investigation. Just 15 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: turn over a dollar bill and you'll see the Eye 16 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: of Horace, also known as the All Scene I Many 17 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: see that as a Masonic nod to the supreme architect 18 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: of the universe, but its true purpose on the bill 19 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: is unknown. Other secrets, though, are not so public. For 20 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: the Catholic Church. Those secrets are stored in a heavily 21 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: guarded vault beneath Vatican City known as the Secret Archives. 22 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: The Archives were established in sixteen twelve, and over the 23 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: centuries their contents have changed ownership and location. Today they 24 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: make up a fifty three mile long repository of papal documents, ledgers, 25 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: and other historical artifacts, all of it kept locked away underground. 26 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Do you want to see Michelangelo's invoice for his work 27 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: on the Sistine Chapel or the court transcripts from Galileo's trial. 28 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: If you're lucky enough or privileged enough, you might get 29 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: to see them. But there's something else stored within the archives, 30 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: something the Church never wanted anyone else to see. But 31 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: one person found it and it changed his life. His 32 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: name was Genrik Mavrakiyevitch Ludwig, and he was a scientist 33 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: who had been held during the nineteen forties in a 34 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: Russian gulag. He had studied numerous disciplines, including architecture and 35 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: ancient languages, as well as mysticism, all while working as 36 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: a teacher, but he was also arrested and tortured, accused 37 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: of being a spy for the Vatican, perhaps because of 38 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: the documents he possessed. You see, Ludwig was fascinated by 39 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: ancient civilizations, especially the Sumerians. In the nineteen twenties, he 40 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: was allowed into the Vatican to leaf through their secret archives, 41 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: but rather than pour over the financial details of Michelangelo's 42 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: greatest work of art, he chose to examine some lesser 43 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: known documents. Between the covers of several manuscripts, Ludwig claimed 44 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: that he learned that the Earth had been visited by 45 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: extra trust life forms thousands of years earlier. According to 46 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: the texts, their presence helped to shape the directions of 47 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: the ancient Egyptians, the Mesopotamians, and even the Mayonds. The 48 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: Pyramids of Giza. The documents claimed that they weren't really tombs, 49 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: but energy machines built for the benefit of the strange visitors. 50 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: What type of energy they were meant to create, well, 51 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: no one knows. There were photographs too, and drawings kept there, 52 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: including pictures of what remained of the walls of Babylon. 53 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: Those had been destroyed, melted even by what was described 54 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: as a fiery pillar. Ludwig naturally believed the pillar was 55 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: a nuclear blast from some alien weapon. He didn't take 56 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: any of the documentation with him, of course, there would 57 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: have been no way to smuggle it out of the 58 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: archives without someone noticing. He did, though, managed to get 59 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: photographs of a few pages, while others he transcribed from memory. 60 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: As soon as he got home. In the years before 61 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: his arrest, Ludwig would show his students what he had learned. 62 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: His wife was also well aware of his obsession. In fact, 63 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: she had been the one to turn him into the 64 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: Soviet secret police in the first place. While he was 65 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: incarcerated in the gulag during World War Two, Ludwig distracted 66 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: his mind by creating over a dozen military inventions. He 67 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: came up with things like a soundproof testing area for 68 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: airplane engines and a safe way for troops to hurl 69 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: bombs at tank set close range. Ludwig was a tortured 70 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: man in more ways than one. His spouse had betrayed him, 71 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: his country had turned on him, and he was cursed 72 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: with knowledge that no one else would take seriously. But 73 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: he knew deep down that the answer to all of 74 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: life's important questions could be answered, yet no one would 75 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: believe him. I suppose that's to be expected, though, after all, 76 00:04:45,920 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: his ideas were quite literally out of this world. Author 77 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: William Gibson defined a new breed of science fiction with 78 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: his short stories and novels. His blend of technology with 79 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: everyday life predates the Internet age, but rings truer now 80 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: than it ever has before. The idea of humans connecting 81 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: to computers the way we do today was unheard of. 82 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: Back then. Technology was meant to be a tool to 83 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: help us advance our minds. Today it's become an extension 84 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: of our minds themselves, and in some ways as even 85 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: surpassed them. Gibson once wrote, we are that strange species 86 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: that constructs artifacts intended to counter the natural flow of forgetting. 87 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: You see, we don't forget anymore. The Internet is forever 88 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: Our pocket cameras capture every moment as they happen, saved 89 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: to some nebulous cloud for all eternity. Before smartphones and 90 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: the web, though, there was a time when our memories 91 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: were curated. We stored them in photo albums, we displayed 92 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: them on a mantle above our fireplace, and if it 93 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: were curious enough, we kept them somewhere else Entirely in 94 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: the middle of the sixteenth century, Archduke Ferdinand the Second 95 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: ruled Outer Austria from Ambrus Castle. The enormous palace resided 96 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: in Innsbruck and was treated more like a museum than 97 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: a mansion. In the Spanish hall of the castle, Ferdinand 98 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: kept twenty seven portraits of the rulers of Tyrril, a 99 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: region of the Alps that was later dissolved after World 100 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: War One. He also had a vast collection of armor 101 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: and weapons on display, primarily throughout the lower castle. He 102 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: wanted to honor the memories of great commanders whose armor 103 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 1: he possessed, while also demonstrating the historical importance of German 104 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: military gear. In the upper castle was the Habsburg Portrait Gallery, 105 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: a collection that has grown to almost three hundred paintings 106 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: over the last four hundred years. The portraits depicted the 107 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: great rulers of the Habsburgs as well as the Holy 108 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: Roman Empire. A short walk from the portrait gallery were 109 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: other collections as well, including an exhibit devoted to glass 110 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: from the Renaissance and Baroque periods, Gothic sculptures, and frescos. 111 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: It's safe to say that the Archduke was quite the collector, 112 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: but perhaps his greatest collection was in the lower Castle. 113 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: The Chamber of Art and Wonders held some of the 114 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: most incredible paintings of historical figures found anywhere in the world. 115 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: For example, one of the portraits on display is that 116 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: of Petrus Gonzalvo's also known as the Man of the Woods. 117 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: You might remember him as Pedro Gonzalez, the Spanish nobleman 118 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: who was born with hypotrichosis, a condition that caused large 119 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: amounts of hair to sprout all over his body. Then 120 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: there's a portrait of Gregor Baki, a Hungarian soldier, also 121 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: displayed in the chamber. According to the stories, Baki had 122 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: either been in the midst of battle or performing in 123 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: a jousting tournament when he was impaled by a lance 124 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: through his right eye and miraculously lived. Ivory sculptures, carved 125 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: with ornate designs, crystals, rare coins, weapons, and odd musical 126 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: instruments make up a sizable portion of this collection, as 127 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: did various corals, bronze animals, and automatons. However, much of 128 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: it was devoted to paintings. One in particular has garnered 129 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: a lot of attention since it's unveiling. It is a 130 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: portrait of a man with long brownish black hair and 131 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: a mustache that stretches across the width of his face. 132 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: He wears a red cap adorned with a large jewel 133 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: set against a golden star or sun. Even his red 134 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: coats is fastened with gold clasps and a matching color. 135 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: The painting subject has been described as the personification of evil, and, 136 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: thanks to his reputation for cruelty, was immortalized in one 137 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: of the most famous tales ever told. His name was 138 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: Vlad Tepees, also known as Vlad the Impaler, but you 139 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: probably know him as one of the inspirations behind the 140 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: character of Dracula. The Chamber of Art and Wonders at 141 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: Ambras Castle still exists in its original location. Many other 142 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: collections have been moved to other facilities or dismantled over 143 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: the years, making this particular kunst Kammer the oldest of 144 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: its kind in the world. Oh and about that word. 145 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: Kunst kama is a German word with a very special meaning. 146 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: It translates roughly as an early type of museum where 147 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: strange objects were exhibited. But for you and I, it's 148 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: a little more personal, isn't it, Because in a lot 149 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: of ways it symbolizes the four hundred people, places, and 150 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: artifacts that have had their stories told by me to 151 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: listeners like you all over the world. Yes, Kunstkammer is 152 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: a funny word, but around here we call it by 153 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: a different name, A Cabinet of Curiosities. 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