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Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday, everybody. Welcome to a brand new NBA season.

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Speaker 2: So much has changed. We have Kevin Durant wearing Houston

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Speaker 2: the season. All right, let's talk some basketball. What a

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Speaker 2: flying around in rotation, they're being physical, they're sharp in transition.

431
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: Their stars are locked in and competing and they're being physical.

432
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: And then you see the Lakers who asigned from Luka Doncic.

433
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: I don't think they had a single player who won

434
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: his matchup tonight. It just was incredibly disappointing. On the

435
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 2: one hand, I'm not overly surprised those of you guys

436
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: who listened to yesterday's show. I talked about how coming

437
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: out of camp the Lakers look to me like a

438
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 2: mediocre basketball team. They look like a good offense, not

439
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: a great offense. And they look like a bad defense,

440
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 2: not an okay defense. They look like a bad defense

441
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: all throughout camp. They first of all, they offer no

442
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 2: defensive pressure at all. There's nobody that they play against

443
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 2: that they make uncomfortable. They're not in your jersey. They're

444
00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 2: not applying physicality. They're not bringing any of that intensity

445
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: on that end of the floor at all. They're jogging

446
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: back in transition and giving up lob dunks because no

447
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: one's picking up the rim or no one's stopping the ball.

448
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 2: They're getting back cut all over the floor because guys

449
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: aren't paying attention to man and ball. It was so

450
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: incredibly sloppy. You see so many things we talked about

451
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 2: swing factors, right, like swing factors like Jimmy Butler scoring

452
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: the basketball, or Jonathan Kaminga making quality reads or knocking

453
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: down catch and shoot jump shots. We're seeing can deandreton

454
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: score on the role while he was catching in traffic

455
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 2: and just getting stripped, Well, can Jared Vanderbilt Bilt Jared

456
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt provides some sort of offensive pop, Well, he still

457
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: can't knock down a catch and shoot jump shot. And

458
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,959
Speaker 2: in the second half, in particular, was literally just like

459
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: driving into the teeth of the defense and turning the

460
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: ball over like that. It looked he looked extremely limited.

461
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart, there's like it's kind of funny watching the

462
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 2: antics contest between Marcus Smart and and Raymond Green throughout

463
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 2: the game. But like Marcus can't knock down an open

464
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: catch and shoot shot, and he's not doing enough on

465
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: the ball defensively to really disrupt high level ball handlers.

466
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: That's something I've seen throughout all preseason. There's just it's depressing.

467
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: Man.

468
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: I saw my friend deman Ra and Goula talking about

469
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: how Lebron looked disengaged on the sideline. I don't know,

470
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 2: like this has the potential to get ugly here. Now

471
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 2: the schedule gets lighter. They have Minnesota on Friday, but

472
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: then after that, you know, the next thirteen games are

473
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: pretty light on what we would consider to be top

474
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: tier championship contenders. I think Oklahoma City. They play Minnesota again,

475
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: and then they have Oklahoma City on the road. But

476
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: other than that, they're playing a bunch of middle tier

477
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 2: and bottom tier teams, and so maybe they'll be able

478
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: to pull this together and they'll be able to get

479
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: some wins, and there's a huge upside, which is Luca.

480
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: Like I want to be clear, like that what we

481
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: saw from Luca tonight, we never even came remotely close

482
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: to seeing that last year, not even not even a

483
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 2: little bit. He never moved like that. He never had

484
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: that like consistent downhill pressure. The short range shot making,

485
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 2: that's something I had my eye on in preseason. He

486
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: was one for seven on floaters in mid range jump

487
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: shots in preseason. He had to hit like eight or

488
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: nine of them. Today he was cooking the Warriors from

489
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: the short to mid range, throwing the crazy kickouts. Still

490
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: has no roleman chemistry with Ayton and the Lobs. He's

491
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: got to figure that piece out. It's so much more

492
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: natural with him with Jackson Hayes. That's something that him

493
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: and eight and are going to have to figure out.

494
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 2: But like Luca was amazing, and that's your big silver

495
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 2: lining that you try to pull away from this is

496
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: if you can right the ship with some of these

497
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: other guys on the roster, you just you have the

498
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: dude that I think is the second best basketball player

499
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: in the world on your team. And so there's a

500
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: whole lot of upside with Luca and what he brings

501
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: to the table. But beyond that, it was just an

502
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: idly disappointing debut for the Lakers, above and beyond anything

503
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: having to do with individual talent, and there's some talent

504
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 2: limitations here. I don't expect Ruy to be able to

505
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: post up Draymond or Jimmy Butler without turning the ball

506
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: over or fumbling it away. The Warriors in general are

507
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 2: a swarming team that are going to cost some issues

508
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: for some of the lesser offensive players. For the Lakers,

509
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily expect them to be a team that's

510
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: going to be dominant defensively, but they just also don't

511
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,239
Speaker 2: look sharp. And we talked about this yesterday, But like,

512
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: if you're already a step slow athletically, you can't also

513
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: be a step slow mentally. You have to be ahead

514
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: of things with your reads on defense, you have to

515
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: be ahead of things with your execution on defense, because

516
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: you're already giving up an inch in the form of

517
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: the athleticism advantage that the opponent's going to have most nights.

518
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: That definitely not, definitely not an inspiring debut from the Lakers.

519
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: But again, Luca looks amazing. I thought Luca was really

520
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 2: good on defense for the most part. He got cooked

521
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: by Jimmy on that last possession, but I bet his

522
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: rotations were sharp. He had some help side plays at

523
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 2: the rim where he got blocks of deflections are good contests.

524
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: He had like a post up stop against al Warford.

525
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: He had a really nice iso stop against Steph along

526
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: the left wing lad in the game when the Lakers

527
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: were going on their run. A lot of really impressive

528
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: stuff from Luca, and then just all bad down the list.

529
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: From there, Austin has kind of become a player that

530
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: can struggle against physical, swarming, athletic defenses. I thought Austin

531
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: struggled throughout the night. He just seemed like he was

532
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 2: over penetrating and getting swarmed and not finding easy kickout reads.

533
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: His shot making wasn't there the way it usually was.

534
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: Shot making wasn't there in preseason either, especially from the

535
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: three point line. But like again, once you get off Luca,

536
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: a lot of depressing on the Lakers front. Again, we'll

537
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: have more thoughts on this as we get I'm gonna

538
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: watch both of these games again tomorrow morning, so if

539
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: I have any any add additional takeaway from there, I'll

540
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: share them in tomorrow night's show. But that's all I

541
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: have on the Lakers Warriors from now. Let's move on

542
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: to Rockets Thunder. What an incredibly bizarre basketball game. We

543
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: had one hundred and twelve misshots, thirty six turnovers, twenty

544
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: eight offensive rebounds, a half dozen missed clutch free throws,

545
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: including some from both KD and Shay. Shay had several,

546
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: but the game ends up coming down to one single

547
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: ISO and double overtime. Along the left wing with Shae

548
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: on the ball, KD guarding him, and I thought it

549
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: was the right move by KD in that spot in

550
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: the sense that he was the only guy other than

551
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: a Men Thompson who was hurt at that point who

552
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: had had some success guarding Shay, so KD guards him

553
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: on the inbounds, and I thought Shay made an incredibly

554
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: smart play. In general, Shay was fantastic in the second half,

555
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: attacking some very complex and very aggressive and mixed up

556
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: coverages from Houston, but he made his smartest play of

557
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: the game there at the end of double overtime to

558
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: win it. So for starting at the beginning of that

559
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: possession when Kd's guarding Shaye, he's super aggressive, which was

560
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: different than how he had guarded Shaye earlier in the

561
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: game on his one on one possessions. Earlier in the game,

562
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: he had been giving Shaye space, offering contests with his length,

563
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: and he had actually Forcedhae into some missues because he's

564
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: got some long ass arms and Kd's hard to shootover.

565
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: But on this possession, KD came out pressuring him like

566
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: kind of gambling, reaching a little bit out of control.

567
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: And so the smart move from Shaye was he didn't

568
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: try to shoot. He knew KD was being overly aggressive,

569
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: so he threw him a pump fake spun over his

570
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: left shoulder and pumped. KD followed that chain of aggression

571
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: into an aggressive contest, and so because Shaye pump faked,

572
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: all he had to do was just throw up a

573
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: shot and he earned his way to the foul line

574
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 2: that won the game. And then, to add insult to injury,

575
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: KD filed out on the play, which removed him as

576
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: a final possession option. Actually thought Jabari Smith got a

577
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: half decent look over the top of Jalen Williams over

578
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: there on the left corner, but it was long and

579
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: the thunder he got the win Chase solved the problem.

580
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: Tonight finished that game with thirty five points, which is

581
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: insane considering he had a relatively empty box score a

582
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: few minutes into the third quarter and the Rockets threw

583
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: one hell of a defensive punch. They had a men

584
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: Thompson on him one on one, and again a men

585
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: provides like a combination of size and athleticism defensively that

586
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: is different than just about anyone else in the league.

587
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: Jackson and I were talking about it before the show, like,

588
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: I think he might be the fastest like big wing

589
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: that I've ever seen, like fastest player that's over sixty

590
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: six and that has long arms. In ball screens, they

591
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: were blitzing him every single time to get the ball

592
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: out of his hands. Then they also mixed in a

593
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: ton of zone, especially when Steven Adams was on the floor.

594
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: Basically everything was geared towards getting the ball out of

595
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: Shay's hands and forcing his teammates to quick process and

596
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: kicked the shooters. And another thing to Houston's credit here,

597
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: I thought they did a great job rotating and like

598
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: making those kickout threes off of the double teams contested

599
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: or congested and feeling rushed Ogoma hit He also didn't

600
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: shoot well. I want to be clear, there were lots

601
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: of great looks that didn't go down. There were six

602
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: for twenty six from unguarded threes in this game, especially

603
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: if you in the second half from lou Dort, that

604
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: were like complete stands, still gotta knock them down types

605
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: of shots. But I do want to give Houston credit

606
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: here for their defense. I thought they played a great game,

607
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: and early on there, about halfway through the game, it

608
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: was about as discombobulated as I've ever seen Shay, at

609
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: least in a long time. But Shay just slowly but

610
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: surely figured it out. Started by hunting every transition opportunity

611
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: you could get, so every time that there was a

612
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: miss or a turnover and Shae got an opportunity to

613
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: attack before Houston had their defense set, he either quickly

614
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: hit a gap or he catch a quick like step

615
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: up screen and transition and hit that gap before Houston

616
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: could really congest things at the rim. And he started

617
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: finding those little seams to get all the way to

618
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: the rim. And then against the zone, he found several

619
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: things that worked. He started just taking ball screens off

620
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: the top and riding that into the middle of the floor.

621
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: He was able to get some better kickouts from there.

622
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: To his credit, he kept trusting his teammates all game

623
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: long as they were sending the kitchen sink at him

624
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: even though the shots weren't falling. And by the way,

625
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: say what you want about the shots not falling. Case On,

626
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: Wallace and chet Holmgren each hit massive threes down the

627
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: stretcher that case On hit two of them massive threes

628
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: down the stretch because Shay kept trusting them even though

629
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: the shots had not been following falling. He also started

630
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: isoting the top guy. These are some little tricks he

631
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: found to stop having to deal with the doubles. Like

632
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: Leiden regulation, I'm not calling for a screen. I know

633
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: it's a men Thompson, but I want my one on

634
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: one And he got to that little step back from

635
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: eighteen feet there on the left side that tied the

636
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: game and send it to ot against the zone. In

637
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: the zone when they'd have an occupied corner, meaning a

638
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: shooter in the strong side corner and a shooter on

639
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: the opposite wing. If he was dribbling against that top guy,

640
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: they weren't doubling. They weren't at first they weren't doubling

641
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: off the corner or off of that top. They would

642
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: double him if he drove, Like if he beat the middle,

643
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: beat the man to the middle and drove, they would

644
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: pinch in from the top from the opposite wing. And yeah,

645
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: if he drove down the left side, they'd pinch in.

646
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: But if he just kind of went one on one

647
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: for a pull up jump shot against the top man

648
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: in the zone, he was able to go one on one.

649
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: And so he kind of just work over to Jabari

650
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: Smith's side and push a little bit over to the

651
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: sideline so that that other top man wouldn't come over

652
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: so far. And then he would just dribble at his

653
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 2: chest and go to that textbook step back or that

654
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: little snatchback dribble that he goes to. And he just

655
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: kept getting the shots that he could have hit over

656
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: the top, and his shot making was unbel The shot

657
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: that he hit to send it to ot over a

658
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: men Thompson was insane. Great contest from a man hit

659
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: a pull up three over a man on the one

660
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: on the right wing. The one that actually was the

661
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: play where a men Thompson don't I'm hoping it was

662
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: just cramps that he was dealing with, hopefully nothing more

663
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: serious because he left the game at that point, but

664
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: just unbelievable shot making. He somehow managed to find like

665
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: a legit scoring rhythm against a defense that was designed

666
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: to get the ball out of his hands. I was

667
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: incredibly impressed. Eventually Houston started doubling him in the zone.

668
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: That was what happened in overtime. They were straight up

669
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: doubling him in the zone, and that started creating those

670
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: openings for those last two threes that Keseon Wallace and

671
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: Cheed Holmgren hit. Credit to those guys. They just kept

672
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: shooting and they knocked him down. So like in other words,

673
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: Shay was presented with a bizarre, massive lineup that was

674
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: guarding him in a variety of really weird and aggressive ways,

675
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: and he just kept going at them until he figured

676
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: it out. I couldn't be more impressed. It was a

677
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: night where a lot went wrong for Oklahoma City. Like

678
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: Check gives you a burst of scoring to start the game,

679
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: really impressive little burst. He hits like a three on

680
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: the wing. It's like a turnaround, tough, little right shoulder

681
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 2: fade over over. Kevin Durant hits a little mid range

682
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: jump shot in the middle of the zone. He's just

683
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: I think he had like seventeen in his first ship

684
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: for fifteen in his first ship. Check came out guns blazing,

685
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: but other than that, they didn't get any sort of

686
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: consistent shot creation from anybody that wasn't Shay the rest

687
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: of the night. J dub is obviously out still dealing

688
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: with the wrist injury. They shot six for twenty six

689
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: on unguarded catching two jump shots according to Synergy, and

690
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: you somehow win because Shay pulls thirty five points literally

691
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: out of nowhere against the defense. He had no business

692
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: putting that sort of scoring output against Just tip of

693
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: the cap to Shaye. Unbelievable preseason and followed it up

694
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: with an unbelievable debut. A lot of other good for

695
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City. I thought their defense was super impressive all night.

696
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: They were physically outmatched basically at every position because of

697
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: that huge Houston lineup, and they just battled. One of

698
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: the underrated pieces of this game was like Houston did

699
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: a ton of damage on the offensive glass, but then

700
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City ended up controlling the offensive glass late in

701
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 2: the game, got a bunch of extra possessions and extra

702
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: points out of that sort of thing they were scrapping.

703
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: They forced twenty four turnovers and got twenty six points

704
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: off of them. That's classic Oklahoma City basketball right there.

705
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: I know Lou Dort had a rough shooting night and

706
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: he had a bad foul against Kevin Durant obviously late

707
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: in the game, but I thought one of the most

708
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: underrated storylines of this game was just Lou Dort denying

709
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant at the basketball. Like KD was sharp with

710
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: his attacks when he had the ball, so there's a

711
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 2: reason why he only had twenty three points. Houston couldn't

712
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: get the ball to him from the opening tip. Dort

713
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: was in his jersey and consistently positioning himself between the

714
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: ball like the passer and where KD was and just

715
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: making that entry pass super difficult. He even managed to

716
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: force a massive turnover late in the game that helped

717
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: swing the game. And like again, I always believe these

718
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 2: things are connected. Kevin Durant was zero for four from three,

719
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: and I thought a big part of it was the

720
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: way that Lou Door just wore down Kd's base with

721
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: all that physicality. Big time night from Lou Dort on

722
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: the defensive end of the four, Cruso and Cason Wallace

723
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: combined for six steals. I even thought Shay was great

724
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: defensively in this game. He brought a lot of ball

725
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: pressure to start. He ended up with two steals in

726
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: two blocks. I just thought he was competing really hard

727
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: on that end of the floor, understanding that that's how

728
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: they needed to win that game. And like, that's the thing.

729
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: This is going to be how Oklahoma City's gonna have

730
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: to win as long as Jadub is out. Without j Dub,

731
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: they just their light on refined offensive skill. We're gonna

732
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: see a ton of doubling and blitzing of Shay. We're

733
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: gonna see a ton of zone against them. They're gonna

734
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: have to win with defense to transition and with guys

735
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: quickly processing with ball and player movement knocking down threes

736
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: off of the attention that Shay draws. But tip of

737
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: the cap to Okay. See, that was a hell of

738
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: a way to start their title defense. Like you get

739
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 2: spoon fed, Like, yeah, here's your rings. And by the way,

740
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 2: here's one of the most talented rosters in the NBA

741
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: that's starting four to seven footers basically and They're gonna

742
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: beat the shit out of you physically all night. Let's

743
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: see you try to start your title defense and they

744
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: just battled, and they just got it done. Tip of

745
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: the cap to the Thunder. That was a super interesting

746
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: debut for the Rockets, though that team is gonna be

747
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: a problem again. I know KD wasn't as much of

748
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: a factor tonight because of the ball denial from Dort,

749
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: but I thought you saw a lot of the upside

750
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: right Like KD was nine for twelve on twos. That's

751
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: what happened when he was actually able to catch the

752
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 2: ball and attack. He just never misses a mid range

753
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: jump shot. When he gets a good look. He can

754
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: rest possessions with shot making in late clock situations. There

755
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: was a possession late where Dort was detached from him

756
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 2: because KD brought the ball at the floor and Shanggun

757
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: actually managed to hit him on a screen, which then

758
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: forced Hartenstein to step up easy little pocket pass to

759
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: Shangoon get a bucket on the short roll. That's the

760
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: kind of thing that when you're not playing Lou Dort

761
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: and you're able to run more ball screen action and

762
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: actually unlock Shangun as a roller that's going to be

763
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: an entirely different dynamic to this Rockets offense that we

764
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: didn't get to see too much of tonight. But like

765
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 2: it's a little bit more complicated. Like I did think,

766
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: you know, for all to talk about KD not getting

767
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: the basketball from the Dort denials, I watched a preseason

768
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: game where Houston played New Orleans and in that game

769
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: there were some extended stretches where Kad wasn't able to

770
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: get the basketball, and a big part of it was

771
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: it just wasn't finding its way to him as they

772
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 2: were playing through a men in Shangoon. And so I

773
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: think Udoka is going to have to do a little

774
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: bit more of an intentional job to make sure that

775
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: the ball finds its way to Kevin Durant more often. Again,

776
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: Dort is Dort. He's going to present some problems that

777
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: I think they can do better getting the ball to KD.

778
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: But I thought Shangun and the men Thompson were both

779
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: absolutely amazing. Thirty nine, eleven and seven from Shangun consistently

780
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: punishing the Okacs Smalls with post ups. He did some

781
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: damage to Chet two to one on one, did a

782
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: bunch of damage to Caruso. And this is a guy

783
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: who like did a ton of damage to Nicole Jokich

784
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: in Game seven last year, if you guys remember, but

785
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: Shangun was just backing him down and protecting the basketball,

786
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: getting to his left shoulder hook following his shot when

787
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: he would miss. Passing well. I thought he passed well

788
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: out of double teams all night. It was one of

789
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: the most efficient forms of offense was just give the

790
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: ball to Shangoon until someone sends a double. He showcase

791
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: the three point shot he's been working on all summer.

792
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: He hit several above the break threes off the wings. Again,

793
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: when they're running their two big lineups, that's going to

794
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: be super important. When Steven Adams is operating underneath the

795
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: basket as an offensive rebounder and cutter, that's going to

796
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: force guys like Shangoon and a Men Thompson to knock

797
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: down threes. And Shangun was hitting those threes. He's gonna

798
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: have to be able to hit those to space the floor.

799
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: He just looks poised for an All NBA campaign. He

800
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: looked like Houston's best player tonight. Unbelievable season debut for

801
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: Albert and Shangun and then a Men Thompson again, like

802
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: he was zero for seven from three and that's obviously

803
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: going to be the barrier between where he is right

804
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: now and where he wants to be as a player

805
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: in the future. And it's going to be a spacing

806
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: issue for Houston again, like a lot of the damage

807
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: that A Men did last year was working along the

808
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 2: baseline with Shang Goon around the elbows, kind of like

809
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: a high low kind of like vertical spacing angle. That's

810
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: not going to be there with Steven Adams on the floor.

811
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: It's going to for There was even a play where

812
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: Reed Shepherd kicked the ball out of bounds in the

813
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: left corner because Amen Thompson was cutting along the baseline

814
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: and the play where there was no space for him

815
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: to cut. So that's obviously something he'll have to work on.

816
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: Like hitting shots is going to be an imperative for

817
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: them this season. But other than that, I was incredibly

818
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: impressed by a Man as well, Like he made Sga

819
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: work all night. His recovery athleticism is completely insane. He

820
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: had a chase down block on Shae on a drive

821
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: that was ridiculous. He had this other play where he

822
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: stopped Kason Wallace in transition, Kaison's pushing the ball at

823
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: the floor and a man's like twenty feet behind him,

824
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 2: and a man like just straight up sprinted and got

825
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: back in front of Kaison and forced him to take

826
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 2: a retreat dribble, and I was like, this is ridiculous.

827
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: His speed at the wing is unlike anything I've ever seen.

828
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: But he also showed some insane upside as a slot

829
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: ISO option. The ball screen stuff was mixed, hit some

830
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: shots in the middle floor, also had some turnovers, some

831
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: bad kickouts. There were some mistakes from men there. That's

832
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: to be expected. He's being foisted into a ball handling

833
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: role that's kind of above what he's capable of right now,

834
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: so it's gonna come with some mistakes. But down the

835
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: stretch and regulation, especially with Dort denying KD they just

836
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: went to a men Thompson one on one off the

837
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: slot against Kason Wallace and he was getting buckets and like,

838
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: it kind of reminds me of John Morant in the

839
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: sense that he has this supreme first step and handle

840
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: to beat the first dude off the dribble, and then

841
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 2: he's kind of immune to spacing on the ball because

842
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to get all the way to the rim.

843
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: He can just pop up off the ground around five

844
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 2: feet and he get all these little floaters in short

845
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: jump shots there that make him extremely difficult to guard. Again,

846
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: like down the stretch of this game, they were playing

847
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: through a men in regulation and he was getting buckets. Again,

848
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: it's gonna be up and down. There's gonna be mistakes.

849
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 2: He's a young player, but like his upside is preposterous

850
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: now again, like it's flawed for Houston in general. Like

851
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: I said, they gotta find a way to keep Kevin

852
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 2: Durant involved. That was something that was an issue dating

853
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: back to preseason. They have spacing issues like shang gun

854
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: shot the ball well, but a men. Thompson and Tari

855
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: Easton got a lot of open shots that didn't go in.

856
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: I think between the two of them, they were like,

857
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: oh for a dozen. We saw the issues in this

858
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: particular matchup. I talked before the season about how is

859
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: severely concerned about their lack of ball handling, specifically in

860
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: this matchup with Oklahoma City, specifically leading to turnovers and

861
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: transition problems. They gave up twenty six points on twenty

862
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: four turnovers, so there's a lot that they have to

863
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: work out, but they also clearly present real problems for

864
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: everyone else. They're monstrous on the offensive glass. They have

865
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 2: a ton of length that can cause problems for any offense,

866
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 2: elite on ball defenders to throw out the best players

867
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: in the world. They have three real matchup problems on offense,

868
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: like Shan Gun's a matchup problem, A Men Thompson in

869
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: his ability to just iso dudes in space, that's a problem.

870
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: And Kevin Durant is Kevin freaking duran They're gonna find

871
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 2: a way to manufacture points. They just have a ton

872
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: of talent. I don't know if they're gonna be able

873
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: to win the whole thing, but they just strike me

874
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: as one of those teams that is going to present

875
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: some real problems for a lot of teams and is

876
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: at the very least a upset threat against everyone. All right, Jackson,

877
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: let's get into our questions for the night.

878
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

879
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: What is going on? Uh?

880
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: First one is gonna be what did you think of

881
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: the entire NBC broadcast experience today?

882
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: I thought it was awesome. They kind of like kept

883
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: it true to the spirit of basketball, like light on

884
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: fluff heavy on like the pomp and circumstance of the

885
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: actual game, right like we're here, we're gonna show the

886
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: national anthem, We're gonna show the player introductions, like we're

887
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 2: getting ready to do opening tip instead of like doing

888
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: some sort of quick interview or sideline report or or

889
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: like some sort of just random diet tribe from the

890
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: from the broadcast crew. We just got to like soak

891
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: it all in, right, Like it just got to did

892
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: they go radio silence and we just get to listen

893
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: to the whole thing. I thought the broadcast crew was great.

894
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: I thought the the Michael Jordan halftime thing was just

895
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: like kind of funny. You can tell, like I'm not

896
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: the first one of this joke, but you could just

897
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 2: tell that they literally like sat down with Michael Jordan

898
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: for an hour and they're just gonna cut it up

899
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: into little clips throughout the season. So it's super efficient

900
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: on that rod, I guess. But like it just felt

901
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: like it just felt nostalgic and it felt like NBA

902
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: hoops and I just just ten out of ten. No, No,

903
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: it's what were your thoughts, Jackson?

904
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the pregame did a really good job

905
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: of sort of and a lot of people made this

906
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: point online much more celebratory of the game than some

907
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: of the other broadcast partners like ESPN and TNT that

908
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: had been pointed out, you know previously, and which is

909
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: I liked those broadcasts too, to be honest, but like

910
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: I thought they was really celebratory tonight. I thought, I

911
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: think Maria Taylor is just consistently great pretty much everything

912
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: she does. She was awesome tonight. I have thought Tracy

913
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: mcgrady's kind of hit her miss sometimes. I thought he

914
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: was really good in the pregame. I of Jamal Crawford

915
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: on the game. He was great on the game. It

916
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: was even though Reggie Miller is kind of a polarizing

917
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: guy and I think he's gotten better.

918
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: Than he used to be.

919
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: It did feel I like that he was on this

920
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: specifically the first game of the night, because it felt

921
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of familiarity. Everything was new,

922
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: Every other part of the broadcast was new, but he

923
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: was something that we're used to hearing, and I thought

924
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: that was actually valuable.

925
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: That's a great point. Yeah, Like there's something about hearing

926
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: Reggie Miller, even if it does come with the occasion,

927
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: like there was a stretch where Oklahoma City was doubling

928
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: Shanghun post ups and He's like, Shayguon's letting him off

929
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: the hook. He needs to put him in the blender.

930
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 2: And I'm like, he's literally getting double team that. He's

931
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: making great passes out so he's making the right read

932
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: every single time. I don't know what you about to do,

933
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: but like, yeah, there's something there. Speaking of nostalgia, there's

934
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: something nostalgic about watching a big NBA game and having

935
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: Reggie Miller in the background saying Reggie Miller things.

936
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely and it's and it was.

937
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: A really good pairing with Jamal Crawford, who is consistently

938
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: just getting smart inside the entire time. It's like a

939
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: fun little two players but very different styles contrasts. I

940
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: thought that broadcast team specifically was really good. The second

941
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: one was, you know, it was okay. I think Grant

942
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: Hill is okay, no Eagles sounds exactly like his dad.

943
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: Though it's great.

944
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 2: He does it's kind of creepy, but he's great at it.

945
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: He just he just he understands the assignment absolutely.

946
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: All right, We'll do a couple of rockets questions or

947
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: a couple of questions from that game, and a couple

948
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: of questions from the league game, and then I got here.

949
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: First question is about Reed Shepherd. What did you think

950
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: of his performance? And then and do you think he

951
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: can be maybe not the whole answer, but at least

952
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: part of the answer for the Rockets and their ball

953
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: handling situation.

954
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: So I feel like re did some good tonight. I

955
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: thought he made some good decisions coming off of action.

956
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: There was a certain amount of like with KD being

957
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: denied the basketball, they kind of needed someone to confidently

958
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: step into some shots. And like, yeah, he didn't shoot

959
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: the ball efficiently, but he got to the foul line

960
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: a couple of times, and he was he hit that

961
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: one little tough kind of jump jumper along the right

962
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: base line, like in the second half, like he kind

963
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: of manufactured some points. I thought that I was. I

964
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: was more impressed with him defensively in preseason than I

965
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: was in tonight's game. I thought he looked physically overwhelmed

966
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: at the point of attack. A few times he gave

967
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: up like five or six pretty bad straight line drives.

968
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: You know, I have a hard time with uh with

969
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: Reid because I texted Sam Messini the other day because

970
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, man, like I just don't see

971
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 2: it with Reid, Like what's going on? Like I see

972
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: a guy that can guard a little bit, who like

973
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: competes and flies around in rotation and can make plays.

974
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: I see a guy who can shoot, but I don't

975
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: see like this dynamic on ball player. And Sam was like,

976
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: trust me, he's like he can really shoot, So like,

977
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: wait till he figures that out, that'll be fine. And

978
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: he can do better defensively than he's shown. And I

979
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: trust Sam, like Sam scouted Read to a much greater

980
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: extent than I did when he was a younger player.

981
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: But I will admit that, like I don't see the

982
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: same like crazy upside that a lot of some of

983
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: the NBA hipsters talk about with Shepherd. And I just

984
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 2: be like, and I'm not just I like literally, out

985
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: there in the entire world, there's a ton of Read

986
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: Shepherd buzz. It's like kind of all you can see

987
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: is everyone's like reach Epherd, this reach Epherd dad, And

988
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: like I, he certainly has potential, but I just I

989
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: haven't really seen that bear out at the NBA level yet.

990
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: I don't look at him as a solution to their

991
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: ball handling problems. But I've been wrong before, so not

992
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: gonna brag.

993
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: I thought the ball handling and the defense are pretty underwhelming.

994
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: It does seem like he can be a pretty light

995
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: seut shooter, and I thought he was good coming off faction.

996
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: He was not able to solve the thunderball pressure, I'll

997
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: say that. And they're the fastball better team in the league,

998
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: so it's not like we should write him off because

999
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: of that, but he did not have the chops for

1000
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: it tonight.

1001
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: It's a hell of a first test for Houston's offense

1002
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: for sure.

1003
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: Like it's it's you know, he gets onto like the

1004
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: worst situation possible, and they always want and they almost want.

1005
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: Next question, do you feel like okay See's struggling today

1006
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: a sort of a championship hangover Ring Knight situation or

1007
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: do you feel like the lack of Jadup.

1008
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 3: Is going to be sort of an issue for them

1009
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 3: until he comes back.

1010
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: I think that the book is out on how to

1011
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: guard Oklahoma City in general from the postseason, which is

1012
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: throw a bunch of zone at them, and like here's

1013
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: the thing with the zone, like because like there's this

1014
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: idea that like oh, well, they got great looks, they're

1015
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: just going to go in. One of the things that

1016
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: happens with zone is it changes the rhythm of the

1017
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: game and it just feels like very different basketball than

1018
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 2: what you're accustomed to playing. Now, this could go the

1019
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: other direction. If you zone Oklahoma City too much, these

1020
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: guys are just gonna get good at it. It's gonna

1021
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: and then it's gonna become a problem. And for the record,

1022
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: they had some success against the zone in the postseason

1023
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: as the as the series went longer. But in general,

1024
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see a lot of double teaming

1025
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: and blitzing a Shay, a lot of packing the pain

1026
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: on his drives, a lot of zone, and a lot

1027
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: of just daring everybody else to beat them while J

1028
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 2: Dub's out. And I mean, i'd argue that's how teams

1029
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: are gonna guard them even when J Dubb is there

1030
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: right now, like I do think, I thought in the

1031
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 2: first half, Houston actually did a really nice job pressuring them,

1032
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: and most of their looks were pretty rushed and contested.

1033
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: In the second half, I thought they missed some really

1034
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: good looks and that's where you can't really fault the process, Like,

1035
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: it's kind of like those above the break threes off

1036
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: the wing, and Chatt and case On both missed some

1037
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: of those too in addition to making them, but like

1038
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: you kind of have to take them. Like if you're

1039
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: not taking them, then you're basically asking Shay to just

1040
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: rescue you with shot making the entire game. That's too

1041
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: much to ask. At a certain point, the defensive coverage

1042
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 2: is designed to concede that shot, and you have to

1043
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: take it, and you've got the players who can make them,

1044
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: and to their credit, they hit the ones they needed.

1045
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: Late last question on this game. Thought on the missed

1046
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: timeout call.

1047
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: Katie got away with one. I mean it was it was.

1048
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: It was pretty clear. I mean he I. It was

1049
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: one of those things where like as a basketball fan,

1050
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: you have to be happy they didn't call it, because

1051
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: what a lame ass way to end that game if

1052
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: they end that with Katie getting a technical for the

1053
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: time out. So like I wasn't complaining as a fan,

1054
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: but watching the game, I was like, yeah, Katie, you

1055
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 2: got away with one right there.

1056
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: And it's and you know, the basketball gods shine down

1057
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: and gave OKC at one point win.

1058
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: Yes, they did. They did on a foul. On there

1059
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: you go.

1060
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure exactly exactly.

1061
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: I'll take a couple of questions from the late game

1062
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: early on, and you know, with an opponent like the Lakers,

1063
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: but do you think this type of Warriors performance can

1064
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: can carry over against higher quality competition, you know, specifically

1065
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: with Denver on Thursday.

1066
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: So Denver is actually kind of a similar matchup to

1067
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 2: the Lakers in the sense that they have a big

1068
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: that Golden State can attack in space, and they're generally faster.

1069
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: I think the Warriors are faster than Denver. I texted

1070
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: you this, and it's like it's not a skepticism necessarily

1071
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 2: about the Warriors, it's just like the reality of this,

1072
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: just this job. Like I personally would like to see

1073
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: Golden State try to score against a faster defense, just

1074
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 2: to kind of get a better evaluation of like Jimmy

1075
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: and Jonathan kaminga like, guess what what happens when you

1076
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 2: play against a faster defense. Those reads get harder, those

1077
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 2: reads get more difficult to make, right, and the shots

1078
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: each get a little bit tougher to make as you're

1079
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: rushed and you're a little bit out of rhythm. Right, So,

1080
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: like I do want to see what it looks like

1081
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: against tougher competition, But like, how could you not be enthused?

1082
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 2: I mean, like the Lakers. Yeah, the Lakers are behind schedule,

1083
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: where no one's debating that, and obviously not having Lebron

1084
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 2: as a problem, but there's still some talent on that team.

1085
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: And like I thought, I thought, like aside, like, do

1086
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 2: you agree with me that had Luca not gone nuclear,

1087
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: they win that game by thirty? Like I thought, they

1088
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: thoroughly out class the Lakers easily.

1089
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1090
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Luca like straight up turned a double digit

1091
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: deficit into a tie game before the half with that

1092
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 2: crazy haymaker he threw at the end of the second quarter,

1093
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: And like, I just thought, here's the thing. All you

1094
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: hope to see from a team on opening night is

1095
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: for them to come out play well, and they came

1096
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: out and beat the shit out of the Lakers. So like,

1097
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 2: I couldn't see that as anything other than a positive.

1098
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: But I think Denver will kind of. I think Denver

1099
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 2: is a matchup that favors Golden State athletically and isn't

1100
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: necessarily a true test of their offense. Let's just put

1101
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: it that way.

1102
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you know, I don't expect Jimmy

1103
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 1: Butler to have this kind of scoring performance every single night,

1104
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: but Steth Curry was going to shoot the ball a

1105
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: lot better, absolutely get a pretty below his standards. He

1106
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: had the Dagger pretty below his standard shooting performance. So

1107
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: I think it's all going to kind of normalize, and

1108
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: I expect them to be pretty pretty darn to good

1109
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: in the regular season if they can stay healthy, which

1110
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: is you know, been the big.

1111
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 3: Question that said they are very deep.

1112
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: I could not stop talking texting during the game, and

1113
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: I forgot about Moses Moody.

1114
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 3: Somehow, who is We'll be back imminently.

1115
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah, they just have They just have.

1116
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: Every year they just have like thirteen fourteen dudes like

1117
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 2: in this Will Will Richards the next guy in this line.

1118
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: But it's like every year they just they find dudes

1119
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: who know how to play basketball in their system, and

1120
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: it's just it is a testament to their culture. And

1121
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: I've been really fascinated by this with teams like Golden

1122
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: State and like Indiana and Boston and Oklahoma City. Oklahoma

1123
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: City's like this too. They keep finding dudes that just

1124
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: can play. And there a j Mitchell today, like they

1125
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: just they like these these really smart organizations, they can

1126
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 2: find dudes on the margins in a way that other

1127
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 2: teams can.

1128
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this being able to self analyze and

1129
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: know who you are is just so valuable. These seems

1130
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: to know exactly who they are what they want to

1131
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: do on both sides of the ball, and they know

1132
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: exactly and so it makes a lot easier to find

1133
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: players who fit in that as opposed to team when

1134
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: you're kind of just like, who are we, what are

1135
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: we trying to do?

1136
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 3: Do we know what we want to do? X, Y

1137
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 3: and Z.

1138
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: Last question for the night. Jonathan Kaminga obviously had a

1139
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: very good game, at least in the second half. Do

1140
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: you think he should be an automatic starter going forward

1141
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: or at least, you know, in the short term, or

1142
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: do you think it should be a sort.

1143
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 3: Of a matchup to matchup night tonight decision?

1144
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: So, actually, I want you before I give my take care,

1145
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: I want you to give your take on the like

1146
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: the politically like smart way to go. Yeah, that's how

1147
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 2: you made a good point when you were texting me

1148
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: about it.

1149
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, when they and when the you know, the

1150
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: report today was that he was going to start My

1151
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: immediate reaction was that, I think politically for the Warriors

1152
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: and for Steve Kerr, it's very it's the right move

1153
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: to start him right away and like for at least

1154
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, because either you know, hopefully it

1155
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: goes hopefully for that and it goes like it went

1156
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: tonight and he looks not like a superstar maybe, but

1157
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: like he can certainly be productive and good in a

1158
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: lineup with Jimmy, Dre and Stepp, which was sort of

1159
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: the big question.

1160
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 3: And you're hoping that can continue.

1161
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: And if it and so if it does great, you

1162
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: either you feel like you maybe have something you can

1163
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: keep him, or his trade value is boosted and you

1164
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: can go get something more than you've been offered to

1165
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: this point. And then if it goes poorly, you can say, hey,

1166
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: we we we held up our end of the bargain.

1167
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: We started the guy for two weeks. He gave him

1168
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: twenty games or whatever as a starter.

1169
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: What do he want us to do?

1170
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't look good like And you know, I think

1171
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: there's two sides of that point. But I think politically

1172
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: and just from like a game theory perspective, for the Warriors,

1173
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: it makes sense to give him a decent leash to

1174
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: start the season, just to sort of because you're clearly

1175
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: good enough, Like even what even if he had he

1176
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: had a bad game, they're still gonna win tonight. You're

1177
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: clearly good enough to like stay afloat even if he's

1178
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: not awesome. And so I would just keep starting.

1179
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: Him at least for them for a couple of weeks.

1180
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: I have one hundred percent agree with you. It's like

1181
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: it's like couples counseling for them in the sense it's

1182
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: like they're one last hurrah. Like it's like this is

1183
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: the last thing we're gonna try. Like, here's the deal

1184
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: Dead series team championship caliber roster. We're putting you in

1185
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: with the starters. Show us what you got. And I

1186
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: think I think Steve's gonna give him a little runway

1187
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: here and like and if he if he continues to

1188
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: play like he did in the second half tonight, like

1189
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: it just ends all of the discussions surrounding some of

1190
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: these other issues, Like they deployed him on the ball tonight,

1191
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: and he struggled with Luca, but like Lucas Luca and

1192
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: like and Lucas specifically has some success against upright wings

1193
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: because he's just so much stronger than them, But like

1194
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: they focus him in an on ball roll defensively, and

1195
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: then like he actually does provide some of the firepower

1196
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: they need, the ability to attack a mismatch here and there,

1197
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: the ability to knock down a catch and shoot shot,

1198
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: to fly up the floor, and transition. I thought the

1199
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: most encouraging part of the second half attack there was

1200
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: them kind of using him in three man action effectively,

1201
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: like basically saying like we could we don't need you

1202
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: to be a satellite guy. We can use you as

1203
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: part of the weapon with which we unleath unleash the

1204
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: Steph Curry attack like it just as far as like

1205
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: going matchup to matchup, I think that's almost the worst

1206
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: thing you could do, because that could toy with his

1207
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: rhythm and toy with his confidence a little bit. I

1208
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 2: would just ride him out as the starter for a

1209
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: little while here and just see what he's got. And

1210
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: like again, like if we're seven eight games into this

1211
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 2: and they're you know, five and three or or four

1212
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: and four, and Jonathan's been more bad than good, like

1213
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: then then it's like you tried counseling and it didn't work,

1214
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: and that means it's time to break up. Yeah, Like

1215
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: it's the last it's the last hurrah. Here, it's the

1216
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: last try. And like Steve Kerr is basically saying, like, dude,

1217
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: we're putting the ball one hundred percent in your court. Here,

1218
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: show us what you can do.

1219
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I thought he definitely had some moments that

1220
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: looked like the last couple of seasons, and he definitely

1221
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: had some moments where I was like, oh, he would

1222
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: not have done that before. He had multiple attacks where

1223
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: normally he's once he gets in the paint, that ball's

1224
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: he's going on. Yeah, and he's he's a good pretty

1225
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: good finishing.

1226
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 3: He's pretty athletic, So like, I get one.

1227
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: But he had he threw it a fast break valube

1228
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: to to Jimmy Butler in the first half. In the

1229
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: second half, he had a downhill drive that the big

1230
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: I forget which big it was, came over and helped

1231
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: late and he actually dumped it off to aut for

1232
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: Ford in a pretty like kind of funky manner. It

1233
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: was kind of not the easiest dump off past. I

1234
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, that's definitely an attempt at a

1235
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: poster last season and you're and if you're a Warriors fan,

1236
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: if you were thinking bets negatively like I might have been,

1237
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: you might have thought Jonathan Coming is trying to get

1238
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: his this year, He's gonna go for that post. And

1239
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: I was like, he played pretty soundly within the system

1240
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: all most of the night.

1241
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, and he overcame some of his mistakes,

1242
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: like like he did try to like cock back a

1243
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: tip dunk for no reason and smoking up.

1244
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 3: A crystal moment as the Lakers are making a run.

1245
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like he had. He had a couple of

1246
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: those moments, but like he just overcame them, and like

1247
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: he was, I thought he was instrumental in that early

1248
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: third quarter run when they put the game away. All right, guys,

1249
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: it's all we have for Night one. As always, as

1250
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting us and supporting the show.

1251
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: We are gonna be back tomorrow night live on YouTube.

1252
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna rewatch these games tomorrow morning. I'll maybe bring

1253
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: some thoughts to the game, uh or to the show

1254
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. But we got a jam pack slate tomorrow.

1255
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: I think we're closing with San Antonio versus Dallas. That's

1256
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: gonna be fun. One Wenby versus a d and that

1257
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: massive front line in Dallas, So lots of interesting basketball

1258
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: to get into tomorrow and then we're live again after

1259
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 2: Denver Golden State on Thursday night, three straight lives start

1260
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: the season again. As always a sincerely appreciate you guys

1261
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: for supporting us. We will see you tomorrow night.