1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Am bar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, September third, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode 8 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: number thirty five. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: We're live from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. 10 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: We're talking Cowboys football with you guys for about forty 11 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: five minutes. Got Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, and a special 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: guest joining us today, Danny Serek. She will be with 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: us every Tuesday. Um Amber will be out on Tuesday's. 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Danny will be in on Tuesdays. Just to get opportunity 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: to get her on the air. You guys have probably 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: seen her around Dallas Cowboys dot Com doing different pieces. 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: But welcome to the show. Thanks. I'm excited a rising 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: star in the industry, so sweet. Welcome aboard. Danielle. Oh, 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: this is gonna be interesting. I want to see the 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: dynamic between the two of you. Guys, this is gonna 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: be fun. This is my homie. We're good. I know. Yeah, 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be gonna have fun. We are gonna have fun. 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's jump right in. And there's so much 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: It seemed like there's always some news breaking around here. 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: But we start hearing this morning of a new deal. 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Not one of the people that we had been talking 27 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: about previously who was getting a deal, Lyle Collins actually 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: signs an extension. He was due to be an unrestricted 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: free agent at the end of this season heading into 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Do you guys know the terms of the 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: deal as far as what he actually was paid as 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: a as a right tackle for the Dallas Cowboys. Five 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: years and fifty million dollars of new money. The whole thing, 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: when you include the last year of his current deal, 35 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: comes around to like fifty nine million dollars. Thirty five 36 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: and guarantees ish. I always like to say ish because 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: you know they hide stuff in there, and the full 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: guarantee and the injury guarantee are different in YadA YadA, 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: but it's roughly thirty five. Does the fact that they 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: did this deal with those other three big deals still 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: sitting out there. Do you think that at all signals 42 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: that there's plenty of room to sign everyone, or do 43 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: you take the other approach that there's only a certain 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: pie and that pie shrinking with the addition of the 45 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: Jalen deal and the and the Lyle deal, that now 46 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: that pie is shrinking and it's less money out there 47 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: for those I don't agree with that at all, because 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: that means that would be that would be bad business 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, they know where their priorities are. 50 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: I think whether it is is they're telling the other 51 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: guys that the pie is shrinking and next year, who 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: knows what it'll be, because they didn't have to make 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: these deals right now, Lyle or Jalen. So I think 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: it's like this is why it's pretty much going to 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: be for the other three guys. And so I don't 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: think it's a really I don't think it's a signal 57 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: so much to them. It might be that they might 58 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: be trying to signal that, but I think everybody who 59 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: knows doesn't believe that at all. You'd have to be 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: a sucker to believe it. Because the Lyle deal actually 61 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: freed up six million dollars in cap space. And there's 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: also the little part about how the cap jumps ten 63 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: percent every March, so if anything, the pie got bigger. 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: Now it's great to say, well, we're giving out all 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: this money. And I do think they didn't sign Lyle 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: Collins to send a message, but it should send a message. 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we're more than happy to sign you 68 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: if you're willing to play ball with us. And that's 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: what Jalen Smith and Lyle Collins have done. Unfortunately, that's 70 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: not gonna work for everybody. And you know, kudos to 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: Jalen and Lyle. They've figured out what they prioritized and 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: it worked out. And there is enough money to go 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: around if everybody's willing to sign for well below market value. 74 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: But that's not everybody. Not everybody's going to do that. 75 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: As we're seeing with the other three. That's you have 76 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: to have team friendly deal. So if you're gonna have 77 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: guys that are going to break the bank, and I 78 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: will say this about today, I know you're probably getting there, 79 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: but this is you know, lyall, that's this is the salad. 80 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: You know, maybe the entres come yeah, oh yeah, oh 81 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to that definitely, are gonna get to them. 82 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: Might take a little bit, you know, but relatively to 83 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: your like steak and the salad. But it's coming with 84 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: these two deals. With this new deal, four or five 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: offensive linemen that start for the Dallas Cowboys are now 86 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: locked up for the next five years until twenty twenty four. Williams, 87 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: who is the fifth guy, He's locked up until twenty 88 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: twenty two. Do you think they will all be still 89 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 1: be around and healthy and dominant to see those five 90 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: years out from now, you hope? So. I don't think 91 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: offensive lines get much stronger than the ones that we 92 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: have locked in. It's just a matter of I mean, 93 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: you never know, like something like Travis Frederick, but in 94 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: terms of like physically you just don't know. Like I mean, 95 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: Tyren Smidman, Zach Martin have already had a little back 96 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: issues so far. Such a demanding position, right, That's kind 97 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: of what I was getting to when you think about 98 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: just these are not this isn't like you're working on 99 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: rookie deals. These are guys that are on their second 100 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: deals and you're five years out from having to really 101 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: even talk about contracts on an offensive line that most 102 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: people considered to be one of the most backed offensive 103 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: lines in the NFL. Does that give you a little 104 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: bit of pause that maybe they don't get to the 105 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: end of those deals. That's that's kind of the point 106 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: of the question. I mean, does how many guys really 107 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: get to the end of their long deal? It just 108 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: doesn't happen very often and is the most recent example 109 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: that comes to mind, Like, how many games did they 110 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: get out of him after that deal? Like eighteens? Two years? Right, 111 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: two years, one of which was severely limited by injury, 112 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: or two and a half. Yeah, but it was a 113 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: five year deal. So no, I wouldn't go that far. 114 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: But me personally, and I haven't had a chance to 115 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: talk to anybody. This is just my gut reaction. I 116 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: think they were just like, well, why wouldn't we do 117 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: this like they did. I don't think they planned this, honestly. 118 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: I think they you know, they drafted Connor McGovern. They're like, 119 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: we could move Williams, we can You think they were 120 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: actually thinking, most likely he was going to walk away, yeah, 121 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: because it couldn't afford and like I said, you know, 122 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: we've been saying that all year. We're like, you know, 123 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be too expensive, and I don't we 124 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: were wrong. I don't think that makes us dumb though, 125 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: Like that's just logical to think a talented player is 126 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: going to seek the most money possible because that's what 127 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: most of them do, rightfully. So this is their moment 128 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: to give a contract, this second contract, especially for a 129 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: guy like Lyaelle. Actually this would be his third contract 130 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: because they already did one, which is rare for a guy, 131 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, at his age, but his whole situation was 132 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: rare coming into the league. So the question was, is 133 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, market value for him is still going to 134 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: be higher than Tyrn Smith, And I think it's right now, 135 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: it's about it even. Yeah, So I think the guarantees. 136 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: I think I saw a graphic earlier to day that 137 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: sit the and guaranteed money. He is third among he's 138 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: either among right tackles or among tackles overall. I wasn't 139 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: sure on that, but it wasn't like this was a 140 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: deal where he made no money. That's what I'm saying. 141 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: He's gotten. He made. The Cowboys now have four offensive 142 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: linemen who are making significant money, which most people probably 143 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: would have thought they weren't going to be able to do. 144 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: You weren't going to be able to fit that much talent. 145 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: But in the salary cap, again, when you're talking about 146 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback, running back, receiver, all these other positions where 147 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: you're paying big money as well, and he is now 148 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: making top five money, let's not act like he's just 149 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: not making any money. But again, with the rising cap 150 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: and the way the open market works, like he probably 151 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: could have gotten fifteen million dollars a year on the 152 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: open market to play what and whatever they want, maybe 153 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: left tackle. That's that's That's what happens a lot of 154 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: times on the offensive line is you get this player 155 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: and you're gonna pay him a lot of money, but 156 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: you have to justify where you want to play him. 157 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: And so I think he might have had to play 158 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: go somewhere and play left tackle, which I'm not saying 159 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: he couldn't do that, but the way his body is, 160 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he was built to play guard. I mean 161 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: he could still play guard. Now, he could play right tackle. 162 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's if his body is at 163 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: the point to play left tackle, but that happens sometimes, 164 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: and it does. But I get with the way the 165 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: salaries are and I don't have this in front of me, 166 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: but I guarantee you he could have gotten more than 167 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: ten a million a year to play right as play right. 168 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: I think so. And in today's NFL we've talked about 169 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: this before, too. Right tackle is becoming just as important 170 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: as left because most of the best, most dominant pass 171 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: rushers these days are playing on the left side. But 172 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: what did we say, like, and not to two to 173 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: our own horn too much, but like two weeks ago, 174 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: right after the jail En deal, we were like, you know, 175 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: if a player has that mental makeup to take this 176 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: type of deal, it might be Lyle Collins. Like, he's 177 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: a low key guy. He likes to fish, he likes 178 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: being close to home in Louisiana. You know, it's a 179 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: short flight, not far away at all. That you know, 180 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: it's what he's comfortable with, and it doesn't surprise me 181 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: all that of all the guys in that locker room, 182 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: he was cool being like, yeah, I'll take that. And 183 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: if there's another guy that would probably be okay with 184 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: someone playing the same position to him that's not as good, 185 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: that's making just as much money, it would be Tyrn Smith. Yeah, 186 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: so you may not have the issue that we talked 187 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: about early and we talked about less week that that 188 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: maybe if Lyle got another deal, then does that affect 189 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: you know, Tyrn wanting to go back to the Well, 190 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: I personally would be a little bit shocked if he would, 191 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: just because of what I think I know of him. Yeah, 192 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: I agree, But and to go back to what I 193 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: was saying is like, I don't think that they like 194 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: this wasn't in their plans that you know, like I said, 195 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: they drafted McGovern, they've got Connor, and now you know, 196 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: people are already talking about it on Twitter like whoa, 197 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: this doesn't make sense, Like now, what are they gonna 198 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: do with Connor McGovern and well, what figure it out? 199 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: Who cares? You're like, wait, you want to resign to 200 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: play with us for that much? Let's go whatever. We'll 201 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: worry about the rest of that later. As Bill Parcels 202 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: used to say, you were in the talent acquisition business, 203 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: which means you're never in the best situation where you 204 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: got talent, so keep getting more talent. And as Danny said, 205 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: you never know about the situations that pop up when 206 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, like the Travis thing. So if you've got 207 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: oh my god, we got seven great linemen like okay, 208 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: sound good to those problems. How much do you think 209 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: this effects or does it affect a guy like Byron Jones? 210 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: Because I kind of put Byron and Lyle in the 211 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: same category of guys that I thought there wouldn't at 212 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: some point there would be enough to sign everybody, and 213 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: so I thought those would be the two guys that 214 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: might be in a position where what they could command 215 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: on the free agent market was going to be significantly 216 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: higher than what the Cowboys would offer, which means they 217 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: probably end up gone. Do you think this changes that 218 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: at all? Seeing that they're they're open to the idea 219 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: of kind of getting these guys and basically signing everybody. 220 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that does that change your opinion about 221 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: Byron Jones? I could see him, I think doing something 222 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: more like Lyle, or maybe you don't take as much 223 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: money as you could elsewhere because you want to stay here. 224 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: I have to say, I keep kind of forgetting that 225 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: we have to sign him. I feel like that was 226 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: one of the off season I was like, Oh, that'll 227 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: be one of the ones. They'll get done rather quickly. 228 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, but that's a good point. I 229 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: mean Byron, like, I don't think it changes anything as 230 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: far as where the Cowboys will want to sign him. Yeah, 231 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: just well with anybody you'd like to get a deal, 232 00:10:55,360 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: you know. But I his is tricky because he's He's 233 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: not the first. He reminds me of a Miles Austin 234 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: or even Tony Romo, to the point where when it 235 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: became time to sign him, he had only really done 236 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: it for one year. You can make the case for 237 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence too, one really good year. So was this normal? 238 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: Is this the way it's going to be? Or I'd 239 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: like to see it again. So it's kind of a 240 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: tricky thing with Byron. I think you kind of play 241 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: it out this year and then and then let it 242 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: go to I've been under that impression too, like, let's 243 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: see if you can do it again. We'll figure that out. 244 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: If it costs us, it costs us. You can always 245 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: franchise tag him. Although I never, in my wildest dreams 246 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: would have guessed that both Dak and Amari are unsigned 247 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: five days before the season, I just didn't think that 248 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: was going to happen. Do you think we get to 249 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: the game and they're still unsigned? Yeah? Actually, I just 250 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: I did a radio interview right before we came on 251 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: here where they asked me that. I was like, I 252 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised on any by anything based on the 253 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: last two weeks. But yeah, like I just I feel 254 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: like you would have heard more movement on that if 255 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: it's all coming from an NFL report that I heard 256 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: about this morning where someone on National sid that there 257 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: is taught that that Dack's going to take a deal 258 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys sometime this week before they get to 259 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: the game to basically mitigate his risk of getting hurt 260 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: in an actual game before he has a new deal. 261 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: If he was going to do that, why didn't he 262 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: do it? On not I I'm just saying that's where 263 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: a lot of these questions are coming from. I think 264 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: is that kind of report? I mean, but the way 265 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: the Cowboys work, I mean think about it like back 266 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: way back for some of us when we were in school. 267 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you have three tests, one of them 268 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: is next week, one of them is next Friday, one 269 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: of them is tomorrow. I mean, you're going to work 270 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: on the one for tomorrow, right, You're gonna start studying. 271 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: Well that's why, that's why what it is, this is 272 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: the deadline that there's only one deadline. But that's ultimately 273 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: why I think what Zeke did actually made sense. If 274 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: he misses games, it didn't, it then lacks making sense 275 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: to me. But it actually makes sense because it allowed 276 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: him to jump line because he would have been that 277 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: guy that's not fat for next week. Well yeah, of course, 278 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: but even if he is fat, he's still got the deal. 279 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: So no, I'm just saying a point. It's true. It 280 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: works for him. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, you know, yeah, 281 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: it's going to work well for him. I think it 282 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: looks like he's gonna be here without missing any games. 283 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: I guess we don't know that for sure yet, and 284 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: that helps him jump the line. But you can't argue 285 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: anything other than that it worked beautifully for him. If 286 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: that's how I mean, well done, sir. That's not Yeah, 287 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: forty days on the Baja host. I think that's right. 288 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: It's hard to beat Oxnard in Hawaii, but maybe that's 289 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: what Cowbo does. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's take our 290 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: first break. When we come back, we're gonna talk about 291 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: ezekiel La. 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There 346 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: was even report this morning that supposedly Zeke is going 347 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: to be flying back to Dallas in hopes that maybe 348 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: a deal gets done here in the near future. Are 349 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: you guys getting any indication as to what possibly is 350 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: holding this thing, what the what the hang up is? 351 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: If you were making progress and then it kind of 352 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: kind of comes to a little bit of a slower pace. 353 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: Have you heard any thing about what maybe the hold 354 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: up could be or do you have an opinion about 355 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: what the hold up could be? The details and the 356 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: contract language, just you know, the guarantee, the average annual salary, 357 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts of it, I mean, the indication, 358 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I guess it was Sunday, which you know, 359 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm so happy it worked out that way. I 360 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: was in the car all day Sunday. I was just like, 361 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: I know, I know that this is all going to 362 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: go down while I'm driving a car and can't do 363 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: anything about it. And it held off, But that's because, 364 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: you know, it sounded like they were making progress, and 365 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're kind of fine tuning it, 366 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: and one side is like, hang on a second, right, 367 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: that didn't work? Yeah, uh are you sure about that? 368 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: And then seven o'clock Sunday night, it sounded like it 369 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: had kind of fallen apart. And then I think both 370 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: sides were kind of like, oh, wait, the game is Sunday, 371 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: Like we don't we don't have time. Yeah, yeah, this 372 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: might have been the plan all along. It might just 373 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: be I'm going to show up on Wednesday before the 374 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: game and play. Let's get a deal done. So we've 375 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: heard a lot of things, you know, we've heard a 376 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: lot of different things about what isn't happening, And you know, 377 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: someone asked me on Twitter that like, sometimes I hear 378 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: it's it's close, and then I hear it's not close, 379 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: and then I hear it's close, down I hear it's 380 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: not close. Which one is it? I'm like, all of it. 381 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: I think it has been close and not close. Yeah, So, 382 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned Wednesday and you mentioned Sunday. Do 383 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: you think at this point, what do you think is 384 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: the actual deadline by which Zeke can actually play this 385 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: Sunday practice tomorrow? I really think so. I mean, if yeah, 386 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm about he signs tonight or tomorrow, he's often on 387 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: another field doing some conditioning things, get back into it 388 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: on Thursday and walk through Friday. He's playing. But even still, 389 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 1: I mean, at that point, is he still playing as 390 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: much as he has every other years? Collard more Still, 391 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: that's a good question. I think I think Alfred Morris 392 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: is active. I think I mean, I think Morris um 393 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: you might have all of your running backs active for 394 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: this particular game, you might be a little close. And 395 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: as Seun actually been moved to the more Chun for 396 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: special teams though he's got to be off the roster though. Well, yeah, 397 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: and it could. It's probably be one of those backs. 398 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: It might be Alfred Morris, that's it. Could. I mean, 399 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: you need Jordan Chun to play special teams and you're 400 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: banged up at linebacker, so I don't know if it's 401 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: as clear cut as well. When you say need, I 402 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: mean they moved him up this week. So if the 403 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: my assumption from that was if Zeke would have been here, 404 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: they would not have moved him up. True, but I 405 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: don't know if they necessarily need him on special teams. 406 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: This might be maybe a nice to have though. Well, 407 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: but you also didn't know what was going to happen 408 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: with Zeke, and I think that he's going to help 409 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: you a lot more than Alfred Morris will because he's 410 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: going to play special teams because they're down on linebackers. 411 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: As Garrett even said, yeah, that's Garrett. Actually there's a 412 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: people in that press conference that thought he was saying 413 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: that he's going to move to linebacker and that's gonna 414 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: help us with linebackers down, so he's gonna help us there. 415 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: And really what he was saying was he'll help us 416 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: on special saying what's happening here? You're reading something that's 417 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: I was trying to because Jerry Jones had a quote 418 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: about Zeke being ready to play this morning and I 419 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: was pulling up my email to read it. They asked 420 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: him on the fan, you know, what would you anticipate 421 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: his workload being if he signs this week? He said, 422 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to get that far ahead of it, 423 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: but just knowing him, I knowed him to be in 424 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: great shape for any type of workload, which and then 425 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Jerry made the joke he should be fresh because he 426 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: didn't have a preseason so, which, but I don't buy it. Like, 427 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: even if you're Zeke, it feels reckless to me to 428 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: think like he needs Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, forty days of 429 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: no football. You haven't had your eyes on him, he'd 430 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, the medical staff hasn't seen him. I mean, 431 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's in good shape, but it's just different 432 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: as opposed to being in the building for the last month. 433 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: And if he can't get if what you're saying is right, 434 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: and like he conditions Wednesday and practices Thursday and Friday. Fine, 435 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: but like you're setting yourself up for something like an 436 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: injury if you're just he shows up Friday and you 437 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: throw him in the game on Sunday. Me, this has 438 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: hamstring written all over those soft tissue issues. If he 439 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: even if he shows up, if he's at the practice 440 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, I still think like ten to fifteen touches 441 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: to me, is a good amount of work for him 442 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: in this first game. To say he's only had three practices, 443 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: one of which is going to be a walkthrough um 444 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: to get himself ready to play when he hasn't been 445 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: doing football for forty days. So me, personally, I just 446 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: would prefer to say, hey, let's ease him back in. Because, 447 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: by the way, if you believe, which maybe you don't, 448 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: and maybe rightfully so, if you believe what they've been 449 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: saying that we can go into this game without Zeke 450 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: and will be okay, then it's a bonus, right, And 451 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: then it's a bonus that you get him for ten 452 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: to fifteen snaps. Right. I don't believe that. I get that. 453 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm saying I'm saying it would him 454 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: I get that. I'm saying, though their words have been yeah, 455 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: we feel will be okay, want him to hear it. 456 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: But my point is, My point is if you can, 457 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 1: if you can have ten to fifteen snaps from him 458 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: and you feel like you can get a pretty decent workload, 459 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: Let's say ten to fifteen snaps from Pollard and then 460 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: whoever is at third running back, you give him five, 461 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: five to seven. I think you can. You can make 462 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: basically make this work, and I actually think it would 463 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: be good because you get to see Pollard in a 464 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: few more situations while you're easing Zeke back in. That's 465 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: the beauty of making that pick. If you really believe 466 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: he has something, then use him a little bit more 467 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: here while you're easing Zeke back in. There's there's another 468 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: factor into this thing too, fantasy football. Sorry no, well, yeah, 469 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: that's a big factor. But there's a freak factor involved. 470 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Did you ever see Randy Moss stretch? He didn't. He 471 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: didn't stretch every the whole team was the weirdest thing. 472 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: The whole team would be in their line before the 473 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: game and he would just be running through like one 474 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: of the coaches, high five and people. He never stretched. 475 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: He was a freak. Zeke is kind of like that 476 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: David Irving, sadly as it is these guys, I'm just 477 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: saying that you're on a different level. Deon Sanders was 478 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: a freak. He could go from baseball and over here 479 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: he is, He's sort of there. I'm not saying be reckless, 480 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: because I agree with everything you're saying, but I think 481 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: there's a factor there that guys like him that are 482 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: special can probably get away with things that other players can. 483 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: But since you have like one of those memories that's 484 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: like a trap, go back and tell me how he 485 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: performed in the first couple of games last year. Year before, 486 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: it seemed to me, again just looking from the outside in, 487 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: it seemed to me like he was a guy that 488 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: didn't get a hot start. And I always suspected it 489 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: was because he didn't really do much in the preseason, 490 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: and so going into the season that was kind of 491 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: his preseason. However, he was practicing, he just wasn't playing 492 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: in the preseason. So how much does that affect him 493 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: not even practicing during the preseason. Does he also get 494 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: that slow start, and he might he might get that. 495 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's first two years I don't think he 496 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: was that great. I think is I think last year 497 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: he was pretty good. Those first two games. I thought 498 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: I thought he was a little bit under what he 499 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: normally is last year. Last year he had sixty nine 500 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown in the opener seventy eight yards 501 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: in a touchdown in the second game, which is a 502 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: little less than what he would typically although he did. 503 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: I mean, he averaged four points six yards per carry 504 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: in both games. Ye Week two on the road, he 505 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: has not been very good, if I remember correctly, Washington 506 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: and then you got the Seattle and when he came 507 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: back from the suspension, he wasn't good from that. That's 508 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: kind of relates to this in a way where you're 509 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: gone from the team. Not wrong. Yeah, but you know what, 510 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: and having said everything I just said about being smart, 511 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm here for a good time, not a 512 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: long time. And it's way more fun if he shows 513 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: up Wednesday and gets twenty five carries for one thirty 514 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday. So yeah, but I don't want to risk 515 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: the chances that you think it goes down with him 516 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: here for a long time. They do, they do, You're right, 517 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: I never risk the Injine. But man, like you know, 518 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: I always think like Nick is the story guy and 519 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: he's always got like you know, Witt and lace Rates 520 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: is spleen on blah blah blah, and everybody thinks he's 521 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: out or like DeMarcus Ware, they carried him and the 522 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: next week he's back in the game winning. I can 523 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: just imagine like six years from now being like yeah, 524 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: and you know, Zeke showed up on Wednesday after forty 525 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: days away, and you know they were talking about Tony 526 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: Pollard getting carries and then Zeke goes for one forty 527 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: in the first the Cowboys in training camp to Coabo 528 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: Ammitt Smith. That's cool. Emmitt Smith. His rookie year he 529 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: was holding Now everyone talks about the ninety three hold out. 530 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: He was holding out his rookie year all the way 531 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 1: until like the Wednesday or Thursday before the before you know, 532 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: the season started at the kickoff luncheon and they introduced 533 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: him there and he played the first game one carried 534 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: two yards. So could the difference be though we're talking 535 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: about coming back the mentality aspect about this point when 536 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: he was coming back from the suspension or you know 537 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: that year back and forth he doesn't have that right. 538 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: I mean, now, if anything's going to be great, like 539 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: I got what I want, I'm here a long term, 540 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: like let's get to work. Would that be different for 541 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: the start of the season. I just think it's more 542 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: about game speed and game reps and getting back into 543 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: the flow of it more so than anything. I mean, 544 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: I've never questioned Zeke's attitude. He's he's a dog for 545 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: lack of a better word, and awesome. Honestly, I don't 546 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: question I don't question his ability to be Oh, Denver 547 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: game attitude wasn't great there, there's a good interception, I 548 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: don't need tackle. You know what. He came back the 549 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: next game and I think he was hurtling people and 550 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: the Bears or whatever. And maybe that wasn't Maybe I 551 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: got my seasons mixed up there, but I think you do. 552 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: But I mean he came back and he played pretty well. 553 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: Then it's actually really fitting. Like we talked to Lyle 554 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: Collins yesterday, not having any clue that he was about 555 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: to be the newest side member of the team. He did. 556 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: He probably by his answers, you could tell by his 557 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: answers he knew. He was Like he's like Zeke's not 558 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: a teammate, he's family. He had I don't know the 559 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: exact quote, but he had this great quote about how 560 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: like nobody's nobody's got to look in his eye like 561 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: Zeke does on game day, like we need him. Just 562 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, all right, cool, But that's the thing 563 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: I don't I don't doubt that Zeke will be in 564 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: good shape and ready to play. My thing is always 565 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: just when you missed training camp. There's a reason why 566 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: they do training camp. And you can talk about preseason 567 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: games not getting guys hurt, but just going through the 568 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: grind of training camp. I think it has a way 569 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: of hardening the body. If getting the body ready for 570 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: the banging net will that will happen during a regular season. 571 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: And that's not a sorry banging as far as them 572 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: being tackled to the ground anything like that, But it 573 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: is just it is just the ability for their bodies 574 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: to get you, Dave. It is the ability for their 575 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: bodies to get used to the pounding like it is 576 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: a regular everyday occurrence in training camp, and you go 577 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: through the pains and the aches of I'm having to 578 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: get up every morning and be sore from the day 579 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: before and still have to go out there and do 580 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: it all over again. And I think that has a 581 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: way of preparing you for a season when you miss it. 582 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of players in the NFL that 583 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: miss training camp and what happened soft tissue injuries early 584 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: in the season because their bodies aren't ready for the pounding. 585 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: And we know he's been working out in Kabba, but 586 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: we don't know what he's been doing. It's I mean, 587 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: from you can't practice football. From the looks of various 588 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: Instagram feeds, it looks like footwork drills and you know, 589 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: all that type of stuff that that's nice, but it's 590 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: not football, right, and so ease him in. No, I'm 591 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: time to get acclimated. It would be really fun if 592 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: he had like a game for the ages, but I 593 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: think it would be smart to let Pollard and maybe 594 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: even Alfred Morris have a healthy workload even if he's there. 595 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's go and take our final break. We'll 596 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: come back. We recently talk a little bit about cuts. 597 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: We haven't had a show since the Cowboys made their 598 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: cut to the final fifty three. We'll talk about that. 599 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: Some things that may have surprised you or some things 600 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: that may have been disappointment. See you. We'll talk about 601 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: that when we come back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot 602 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: Com Radio. Your new apartment's big, such a great deal. 603 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: It's okay, just okay? What's not right about the subway? Well, 604 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: I bet you don't even notice it after that's my neighbor. Angus. 605 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: A deal that's just okay is not okay. 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They got down 641 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: to fifty three, as every team in the NFL did. 642 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: I want to start this conversation by asking the question, 643 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: what was the biggest surprise coming out of the final 644 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: fifty three? Dave, the biggest. If I had to pick 645 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: a biggest surprise, probably that Cedric Wilson didn't make it, 646 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: or Donovan A. Lumba too, But I mean I don't 647 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: think it too Okay, Sorry, I mean I don't think 648 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: either one is a shocker. I guess is my pointer? Right? 649 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: Most surprise you aretha, go ahead? Brandon Knight making the team. 650 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean we didn't he didn't play that much. We 651 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: didn't even have him as one of our bubble guys. 652 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: The fact that he's still here, yeah, that's kind of surprising. 653 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: This just goes to show that this is how good 654 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: of a football team this is. If Cedric Wilson not 655 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: making in or Alumba and Brandon Knight making it, I mean, 656 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's there's nothing Major. There's no Dan Baileys 657 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: this year. Cedric Wilson was mine. I mean, he's still 658 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: practice squad, But I though I guess they were going 659 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: to go six. Donovan Alumba, I don't think really surprised 660 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: me as much. Just with I mean Donovan Wilson, it 661 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: got really good DBS. It's true Cedrick Wilson was mine, 662 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: I will say. And to that point, Danny, which I 663 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: think you're right, but I'm not. I'm not directing this 664 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: at fans. I'm not trying to talk down on anybody. 665 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: It's something we should all keep in mind. People don't 666 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: get claimed that often in the NFL, Like for the 667 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: most part, every team in the league has guys like this, 668 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: like a moderately fast receiver who can go inside and 669 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: outside and return and punts like Cedric Wilson. I think 670 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: he's better than Lance Lenore. But is it like this 671 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: just huge difference between the type of player that they 672 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: are right now when their careers. Daniel Wise is the 673 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: same way. You know, like the number of people that 674 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: were just beside themselves with rage that Daniel Wise was 675 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: subject to waiver claims and here he is. He's right 676 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: back there on the practice squad. They just not that 677 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: many players get claimed, and it's you know, I'm going 678 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: to keep this in mind next year because next July 679 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sitting there with the roster in front 680 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: of me, like, how they how are they gonna do this? 681 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: And they're gonna do it. It's gonna be fine. Ye. 682 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: One thing that that stood out to me the Cowboys 683 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: decided to keep six defensive ends. What do you guys 684 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: think about that? From the standpoint of obviously, you don't 685 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: have to worry about Robert Quinn right now. He's he's suspended, 686 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: but when he comes back. I know we talked about 687 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, these things kind of have a way of 688 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: working themselves out. But do you think it gets to 689 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: a point even if another position you have an injury 690 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: at where you can put him on there seems like 691 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: that's still a huge number of defensive ends that you 692 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: would carry. How do you think that all plays out 693 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: as you as you through the season, as particularly as 694 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: you get to the third game of the season. Well, 695 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: we'll see you're sixth six, Okay, so five on the 696 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: roster right now? Yeah, I mean I do believe that 697 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: though something's gonna work itself out. I mean two games, 698 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna find something out about one of those five 699 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: defensive ends, whether whether or not one of them's hurt 700 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: or one of them's not very good. Let me correct that. 701 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: Actually they're six on the roster right now, six on 702 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: the roster and then him. So they got Tank, Tyrone 703 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: and Hyder, Hyder, Taco and Joe Jackson. Yeah. I mean 704 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: it's a lot of defensive ends. Hyder and Tyrone can 705 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: can swing that. I mean, you know, also play tackles, 706 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: so that true, it's helpful. I think what was hard 707 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: was we were all kind of questioning Taco's future. But 708 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: I think his contract and all that kind of played 709 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: more into it than just his play. But I think 710 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: they probably won't use Hyder at end as often. I 711 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: think they would do the Crawford instead. You think you'll 712 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: be an inside. I like, I like Hyder on the 713 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: outside and Crawford inside. I think Hyder is gonna get 714 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be second on the team in 715 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: sacks this year, Damn I do. That's I mean, ahead 716 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: of Quinn because I assume Tank's going to be your first, 717 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: right Oh tacle okay. Led the preseason, he said preseasons 718 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: don't mean anything. That's what he said. He did say 719 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: that I can't say anything anything. I'm not trying to 720 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: come for the guy's roster spot because he had a 721 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: good preseason. But I just to your point, I mean, 722 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that you can take yourself off of 723 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: Taco Watch yet, because again to give where are you 724 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: freeing up that roster spot as soon? I mean, and 725 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: you know, it does typically work out where somebody gets hurt, 726 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, somebody like strains something or pulls something or whatever. 727 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: But if it doesn't, I mean, it's gonna it's gonna 728 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: have to be a major enough injury to where you're 729 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: willing to prick them on ir that's the issue. And 730 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: you know what do you have to keep Quinn? What 731 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: has he done in the before his injury that it 732 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I gotta have it. I 733 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just saying he's eight million in the year. 734 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: I guess she don't have to. But like I would think, 735 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: if he's available, he's at least your third best defensive end, 736 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: if not your second one. Like I really hate that 737 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: you even brought that he was trying he was trying 738 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 1: to come for Tyrone a couple of weeks ago. So 739 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: he's just trying to stir it up. No, I'm not 740 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: trying to stir up. I'm just trying to I'm not 741 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: trying to get hit in the Dan Bailey face again. 742 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm We need to be paying 743 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: attention to these things. No, that's I mean, it's a 744 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: fair question. I just I just don't I don't see 745 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: why you sign a guy you're dreaming about, sign a 746 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: guy and then he gets hurt. Remember when you I 747 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: did dream about. You don't sign a guy like Quinn 748 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: for him to be all world in training camp. You 749 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: signed him to be a good player when you get 750 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: to the regular season. So I don't think that there's 751 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: a scenario where you're like, oh, yeah, we don't need him. 752 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: We thought we needed him in the offseason, but now 753 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: we think we're good. Okay. If I really cared to 754 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: argue that much on both sides, that would just take 755 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: the other side and say they didn't know that they 756 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: had what they had and carry hider. They didn't know that. 757 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: What do you haven't carry hut? I mean, like you 758 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: you saw his training camp. Now he had a good Yeah, 759 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: but I'm just still don't know what you're gonna get 760 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: when you get to the sixteen games in the regulat, right, 761 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're gonna get with anybody. But 762 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think that they would be okay. 763 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean, are you worried are these two l's here 764 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: because they don't have Quinn? No, not at all. You 765 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: can also think they can get by if they needed 766 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: it and they have all these problems. I mean, of course, 767 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: then that's also a lot of money you can you 768 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: can knock off of this year as well. So I'm 769 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: just saying, let's don't throw. If we're gonna throw all 770 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: the scenarios on the table, I think that's to be considered. 771 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: You can mix and match this thing too. I mean, 772 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: if Zeke comes back, you probably drop a running back. 773 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 1: They don't need ten defensive backs, especially when when darry 774 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: and Thompson and Donovan Wilson get healthy. Right, that's something 775 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: to watch um. And then they're heavy at offensive line too. 776 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean Adam Redmond. I'm glad Adam Redmond is on 777 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: the team, and Brandon Knight too for that matter, but 778 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: do they both need to be here over a pro 779 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: Bowl pass rusher. I don't know that was actually gonna 780 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: be the second question. I was going to go to 781 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: a safety. Cavon Frasier makes it along with Donovan Wilson 782 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: and Darry and tom Do you think that's maybe just 783 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: because of the injuries and then we might see, as 784 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: you need to get Robert Quinn onto the roster, that 785 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: maybe Cavon becomes a guy that's expendable. That's true. Yeah, 786 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: that's a great point. Doesn't have to be defensive end 787 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: that gets cut here. I mean, you got to figure 788 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: out who's going to be active every game, but it 789 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be Donovan, Wilson and Thompson are the 790 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: only and Luke Gifford. Those are the only three guys 791 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: that didn't practice yesterday. So they have three healthy safeties 792 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: right now. So injuries helped a lot of players. Yeah, 793 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I'll say it for the 794 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: million times. Like I love Cavon Frasier. It makes me 795 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: feel gross like talking about his job like that, but 796 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's something to watch when these 797 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 1: other safeties get healthy. You know, they're heavy at offensive 798 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: line right now, and they're heavy at safety, and they're 799 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: heavy at defensive end or you know, it goes a 800 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: long way when you don't have to carry three quarterbacks 801 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: and you don't have to carry four tight ends, you know, 802 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: just because you were trying to see what Rico can 803 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: do and trying to see if Mike White is worthy 804 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: worthy of a spot. There's nobody on this team right 805 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: now where I don't understand why they're here, and that 806 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 1: hasn't been always the case. So that's cool. Well, why 807 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: is Brandon Knight here? Because he I think he he's 808 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: got the flex to play. I think you could even 809 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: say four positions. I think center is probably the only 810 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: spot he couldn't play, not saying he'd be great at it. 811 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: And I think, much like Gifford, I think they were 812 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: impressed by what he showed in those two weeks before 813 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: he got hurt that they were like, okay, well yeah, 814 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: And I know I just said, people don't get claimed, 815 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: but if you really feel strongly about a guy, why 816 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: chance it? Yeah? I mean some people get claimed. Yeah yeah. 817 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: And they talked these these age I mean these scouts, 818 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, they talked to other teams and they kind 819 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: of know who's getting interest. I mean, I guarantee a 820 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: few people will will be asking these scouts, like when 821 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: they're on the road, what's up with sixty nine? What's 822 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: up with that Brandon Knight? You know, oh yeah, we'd 823 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: like him. You know, you get four or five of 824 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: those questions. You know. Maybe nobody was doing that with 825 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: Daniel Wise. Yeah. I talked to Leon Lett and he 826 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: thought there was no way that Leon or that Daniel 827 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: Wise was not going to get claimed. But like Dave said, 828 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: doesn't happen all the time. That's true. All right, We're 829 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: gonna start tomorrow as we do every season. We're getting 830 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: ready for the upcoming game. We haven't had real talk 831 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: on the show about other teams. We'll start that tomorrow, Dave. 832 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: We'll start back with his offense and a defensive breakdowns. 833 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: I guess we'll start tomorrow with the Giants offense versus 834 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,959 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Giants defense versus the Cowboys offense and break 835 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: that down. But I do want to do this on 836 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: Tuesdays from now on. I want to ask you guys 837 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: one simple question this week. I'm gonna have a little 838 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: caveat to the question, but the question will be, what 839 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: is the biggest question or concern that you have for 840 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys at this moment, facing this game this week, 841 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: the caveat is going to be outside of Ezekiel Elliott. 842 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: All right, so let's start first with you, Dave. You 843 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: give me yours, then Danny didnnick about the game, about 844 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: the game, about the week, about the preparation for the game, 845 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 1: everything leading to the game. What is the biggest question 846 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: or concerned you have for the Cowboys right now? I 847 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: guess just that you're arguably your second best offensive playmaker 848 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,760 Speaker 1: has been mia since August third. Amari Cooper hasn't practiced 849 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 1: since August second. I believe Um and we give him 850 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: and rightfully so, we give him so much credit for 851 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: turning the offense around last year. He's a pro bowler. 852 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: He does this, he does that. Has not practiced. I 853 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: mean he practiced Monday, which was, you know, not a 854 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: training camp practice. So I think he'll be fine. But 855 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: it's something that I'm curious about because he didn't have 856 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: a training camp. Really, Danny, I don't think I'm gonna 857 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: say as much a concern, but maybe curiosity in the 858 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: red zone. If we know that with Kellum Moore they're 859 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: going to run, you know it's most likely going to 860 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: come from Zeke or Dak. Well, Zeke's not there. You 861 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: really just have Dak and defenses are going to plan 862 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: for that. So I think that'll be what I'm most 863 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: curious to see is how much change can we see 864 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: in the red zone this year where they really lacked 865 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: last year. Let's go, Nick, when you go third, you 866 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: get you know, the good ones taken away experience. I 867 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: was thinking both of those, you know, they're they're gonna 868 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna kick the Giant's ass unless they turned the 869 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: ball over. They turn spicy. I'm just saying they're gonna 870 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: care that they are. They're they're gonna they tackle that 871 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: big old running back and don't go and don't do 872 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: stupid things and turn the ball over. But that they 873 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: should beat this team by seventeen points. So what's your 874 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: biggest concern turning the ball over? There you go, Brian, 875 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: That's that's what they need to do. When was the 876 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: last time the Cowboys beat the Giants by seventeen points? 877 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 1: I know, even especially even last I mean, they kicked 878 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: their ass last year, but the but the Giants backdoor 879 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: covered all day, so they beat them pretty bad in 880 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen the first time, not the Odell game, but 881 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: the one before that, but you're at New York. You're right, 882 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: they play, Oh, you're right, you're right, You're right. They 883 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: beat them pretty bad in seventeen. Okay, sorry, I don't 884 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: see I don't even those games run together. You told 885 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: me nineteen eighty seven. I can tell you exactly what 886 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: happened about twenty seventeen. What was the rod Smith eighty five? 887 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: That was a close game in the fourth quarter and 888 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: then rod Smith just said watch this so speaking Bay 889 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,959 Speaker 1: with the New York Giants, and he's actually on IR 890 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: though I'm not going to play. I'm bummed out about that. 891 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: I was injury, you know, yeah, like it's like a 892 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: packer absur so I was hoping to see him this week. Yeah, 893 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean too. Of course, he probably wouldn't gonna be 894 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: in the game very much with sa Quan out there, 895 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, I don't I mean, I don't 896 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 1: have a lot of concerns. I think the injured guys 897 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: are gonna gonna play and play well, and I'm with 898 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm not as willing to talk 899 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: that plainly as you, but like they should win this 900 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: game comfortably if they just don't completely crap the bed 901 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: str I almost want with kicking. I mean, you know, 902 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: unless it's fifty yards out. But I just I don't 903 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: know that I feel necessarily so confident, right, I mean, 904 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: like the further the better from our heart. But I 905 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: just but I don't think you ever will I mean 906 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: you hope not. I don't think you're ever gonna be 907 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: just like comfortable. Who's comfortable with their kicker like balt 908 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: Ravens he misses not often. But I'm just saying, for 909 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: the most part, I would say twenty five teams are 910 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: kind of like you know, Yeah, they get a little 911 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: nervous every time he walks on the right. Yeah, you're right. 912 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: We used to feel pretty confident, right, there was a 913 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: time time and that's when you you start to realize 914 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: how much of a blessing that is, because that's not 915 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: the way most teams live, right, all right, let's like 916 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys, you want us. We're back tomorrow. 917 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: We'll be at our normal time now it's eleven forty 918 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: five am every day Central time that we will be 919 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: on the air tomorrow. We'll jump into the Giants defense 920 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: versus the Cowboys offense. Get you guys ready for this 921 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: upcoming game. Till then for Nick Keatman, Dave Hellman, Danny Serek, 922 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eagles and this has been The Break live 923 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a 924 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 925 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: Football Club.