1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: your bets. This is meet Joey p joe Pizipia and 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: it's Week eight in the NFL. It's time to talk 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: to some dfs with d BRO Derek Brown, the King 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: of Bros, the Fantasy Bro. We're gonna break down the 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: main slate for week eight, the Welsh on the ones 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: and the twos, maybe even the threes in the fours. 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what he's into. People 9 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: nowadays are into a lot of weird stuff, but we 10 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: are into dfs. We're into winning you money. That's what 11 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna do here on the program today. And of course, 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: don't forget another great way to make sure you're getting 13 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: all of the best you possibly can when it comes 14 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: to DFS lineup optimization. Use our Fantasypros dot Com Optimizer again, 15 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Fantasypros dot Com slash Optimizer, the place where you can 16 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: create one hundred and fifty lineups at one time, seamlessly 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: save and export your favorite lineups to DK to FD 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: to all of those letters, d Bro. Great to see you, 19 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: my friend. We are back here. No buys, that's it. 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: It's all games, nothing but blue skies. Are you ready 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: to make some green blue sky? 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Smiling at me? Don't quit your joey, Yeah, let's go. 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, not quite me singing Total Eclipse of the 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: Heart on the show Sunday Night, which if you missed it, 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: don't shame my harmonies. Yeah, we might want to go 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: back and listen. That was That was a golden moment. 27 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: That's what we do here. We make moments. Let's make 28 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: some money. Let's start here with the totals, because that's 29 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: where we start to learn if we want to get 30 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: involved in games or not. The Dallas Cowboys are hosting 31 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. Forty five and a half is 32 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: the number for this one. I'm already in very much debro. 33 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: In fact, we just talked about it on the last 34 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: show we did, which was if you pair up the 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: CD Lamb over fifty five and a half receptions, if 36 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: you pair the anytime touchdown score for Tony Poward, and 37 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: you pair up the money Line Cowboys, you can make 38 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: yourself a really nice three to one kind of day. 39 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: Very simple, kind of easy bets too. Nothing real kree 40 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: kray there. But in terms of investing, I like LAMB 41 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: this week. I like Pollard this week. In fact, I'm 42 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: even willing to go back to Pooka again too, because 43 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: Pooka's targets here has stayed the same. So how do 44 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: you see this one in terms of rams in Dallas? 45 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: What pieces do you like of this. 46 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: I'm worried about Pooka this week only because dron Bland 47 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: and Stefan Gilmour have been monsters on the island. But 48 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: I think that this game is going to shoot out. 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: This game has absolute shootout potential. I've already bet the 50 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: over for this game. For this it's easy. Man. Give 51 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: me Cooper Cup going back to the well. I want 52 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb. I want Jake Ferguson too. The rams have 53 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: been bottom five as far as defending tight ends, you 54 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: can for GVPS. You can also interest me in some 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. I know that sounds crazy, but large field GPPs, 56 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: nobody's gonna play him. I don't think you could skinny 57 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: stack him or double stack him. The double stack is easy, man. 58 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: It's where you attack the rams is via the slot 59 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: and with tight ends. So you go Dak CD Jake, 60 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: you bring it back with Cooper Cup and we move 61 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: it on Baby. 62 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to Carolina and Houston Texans. 63 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: This number a little lower, forty three and a half, 64 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: still pretty good. Adam Feeling is ranked as a top 65 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: twelve wide receiver this week on Fantasy Pros. And I 66 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: can't argue it. I I can't argue. I can't. 67 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: I'll argue it. 68 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: The productivity has been there, so let's put that aside. Look, 69 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: I know CJ. Stroud has played really well. I don't 70 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: know if that's a well you want to go down. 71 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you like any cheap pairings there. 72 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: But this game is kind of a fade for me 73 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: because it's a giant, full main slate. I don't love 74 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: this game. I think there's just so many more points 75 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: to be had in other spots. What do you think? 76 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: C Shroud week? Baby calling it? See just drow week. 77 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: I'm in for CJ. Stroud doubles. My favorite player out 78 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: of this whole freaking game, Joey is Tank Dell. Tank 79 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: Dell leads the team in deep targets. Carolina's bottom five 80 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: against deep passing. So if you want to play one 81 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: guy out of this game, it's Tank Dell. He is 82 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: too cheap for his ceiling on boat sides. But I'm 83 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: in for c J. Stroud doubles. Man, give me c J. Stroud, 84 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: Dco Collins, Tank Dell. I want no part of the 85 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. This is a bad matchup for the slot 86 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: for Adam Feeling. If you want to mix in just 87 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: a Houston onslot, you can also mix in instead of Nico. 88 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: You can go Damian Pierce, Devin Single Terry. But I 89 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: love CJ. Stroud doubles and I'm we're keeping a rolling baby. 90 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: Let's move on. 91 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: The nice thing about Stroud too, and that pairing with 92 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: Dell is it's very cheap, which means this is a 93 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: slate where for the first time and it feels like, 94 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, a month, we have a ton of 95 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: expensive running backs and a ton of RB ones, you know, 96 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: between Monday Thursday games, London games, between you know, bye weeks, 97 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: everything going on. We haven't had a slate of running 98 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: backs in the top tier like we have this week. 99 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: If you get diccaffre of those guys, you have to 100 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: almost go to some of those other pivots. 101 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: You can skinny up CJ. Stroud and get a lot 102 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: of his production. Just go Cee J Stroud and Tank 103 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: and then put up all these these pay up options 104 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 2: around that Chase Brown CMC. 105 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: There's so many of them this week in Minnesota, Green Bay. 106 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: This is another one too. Again my focus is just elsewhere. 107 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: I can't I can't get too involved in this game. 108 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: I do like it from a betting STANDBOYT from a 109 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: DFS tandpoint, I don't love it. Forty one and a 110 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: half forty two that's what you're getting at most places 111 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: on this game. But you know, I understand liking Hawkinson. 112 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: I think there's I'd rather pay up for Kelsey or Andrew, 113 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: or I'd rather pay down. I feel like this week 114 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: for guys like God or potentially so. I don't know. 115 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: This is another game for me. It's a fade, but 116 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: maybe you see it differently. 117 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: Nope, I'm off this game. My two favorite plays out 118 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: of this game are Jordan Addison and the Vikings defense. 119 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: I think the Vikings are going to blitz the ever 120 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: love and hell out of Jordan Love, so I think 121 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: that this game could go sideways. Give me Jordan Addison 122 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: the Vikings defense. If you want to play some Christian 123 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: Watson in large Field GPPs, I get it, But I 124 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: think there's a really cheap pairing to be had here, Joe, 125 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: if we think the Vikings could steamroll the Packers, which 126 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: I think is in play here. If you want to 127 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: bet that in a smash matchup that cam Akers takes 128 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: over this backfield and you play that, the Vikings just 129 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 2: roll this week. Pairing cam Akers for super cheap and 130 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: the Vikings defense is a way to go. And I'm 131 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: gonna have some action on that. 132 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: Next one here, Jets and Giants. This one's in New Jersey. Okay, 133 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: that's where it really is, is a New York backyard. 134 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I am from Brooklyn, but that that's why we 135 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: Where Where do you resigne now, Joey? 136 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: I live in Jersey. I don't be shamed. It's okay, 137 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: you're Jersey. I'm not a sham. New Jersey's great. You've 138 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: got beaches, you've got mountains, you've got every It's like 139 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: the entire United States into one little, tiny state. It's beautiful. 140 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: But because I lived in New York and grew up there, 141 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: I never thought the Jets are Giants were New York team, 142 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: so I never rooted for them. I didn't care. I 143 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: am rooting for the Jets defense in this one, though 144 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: I like them a lot. I love Breece Hall this 145 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: week as well against the Giants. I am in on 146 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: that he is seventy two hundred over on FanDuel. Love 147 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: that price twenty seventh ranked rush defense of the New 148 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: York Giants. So give me Haul, give me the Jets defense. 149 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: That's what I like the most in this one, which 150 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: again a low total that I've already bet the under. 151 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: I got it thirty seven and a half, but now 152 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: it's down a thirty six and a half for me. 153 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: I just went the mini correlation of Breeze Hall and 154 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: Darren Waller. The Jets have really good cornerback play, but 155 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: they have not defended tight ends well. I think the 156 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: other boost to Waller here is that Daniel Jones is 157 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: not playing this week. Tyrod Taylor has quietly played really 158 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: good since he's been under. So I just want the 159 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: mini correlation of Breee and Darren Waller and that's it. 160 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: Next up on the slate, we have the Miami Dolphins 161 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: hosting the New England Patriots. Forty seven is the number 162 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: for this game that you can get right now. Look, 163 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill is always the right answer to most of 164 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: life's questions in football. It's interesting, though, because I feel 165 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: like with the injury that he picked up this week, 166 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: that people might not be in as much Dolphins coming 167 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: up for the loss in the prime time game that 168 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: Patriots coming off a win. I don't want to take 169 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: too much out of any of those things, but I 170 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: will say this, I feel like the roster ship for 171 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill might be lower than it's been in weeks past. 172 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm curious if you're seeing that trend or if that's 173 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: just something in my brain. And then on top of which, 174 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: just because the Patriots went out and won doesn't mean 175 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm chasing Kendrick Bourne doesn't mean I'm chasing any of 176 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: these pieces this week. I don't again see this game 177 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: as one that I want to get particularly involved in, 178 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: especially from the Patriots standpoint, But maybe you see things differently. 179 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: I know Waddle's also been banged up, he's had a 180 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: disappointing season. I know moster it picked up the injury too, 181 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: he was practice. So this feels like kind of the 182 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: walking wounded Dolphins. Is this something we want to invest in? 183 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: It's not. I want Kendrick Bourne out of this game, 184 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: and I'm fading this game. If you wanted to pay 185 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 2: for cheap again playing a skinny stack of Mac Jones 186 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: and Kendrick Bourne. I totally get that. In large field, 187 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: I'm not paying up for Tyreek Hill. We've already seen 188 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: what he's done versus this defense. He is more popular 189 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: than I thought he was going to be this week. 190 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: He's fifteen to twenty percent projection on DK it's even 191 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: higher on FANDLE he's at twenty five percent. So a 192 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: really chalky Tyreek Hill in a matchup board. We've already 193 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: seen what this looks like. Joe. He had nine targets, 194 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: five receptions, forty receiving yards. Is that getting it done 195 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: when you're paying up so much for Tyreek Hill? No way, 196 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: And on this big of a slate, there's just no 197 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: reason to eat that chalk. If you're going to pay up, 198 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: there's too many other guys to pay up for that 199 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: are in really really good spots. If Tyreek Hill was 200 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: five percent sure at fifteen to twenty or plus, no uh, 201 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: no interest. 202 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: My only problem with Bourne is that price wise is 203 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: especially on fanduels specifically, he is so close to guys 204 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: like Josh Downs. He's so close to guys like say 205 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: Flowers are gonna talk about I'm sure later. And even 206 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: Rushie Rice is one hundred dollars cheaper. 207 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: He's a better DK play, no doubt. 208 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: Better DK play. So just for people looking sight to say, 209 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. All right, let's get 210 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: to the next one on the slate, A boy, let's 211 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: go Atlanta Falcons Tennessee Titans. Oh dear, if you you know, 212 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: if you're feeling depressed and you want to feel better 213 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: about yourself, watch this football game. Thirty five and a 214 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: half is the number. I love the Atlanta defense. I'm 215 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: not gonna lie, you know. I'm not a big fan 216 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: of will Levis. I don't know how much he's playing 217 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: in this game compared to Milik Willis. I don't know 218 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like. I don't think it's gonna 219 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: look good. I like the Atlanta defense anyway. A lot 220 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: of weeks I've rostered them. I've talked about him on 221 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: this show. That's my big investment on this game. And 222 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: they are pretty cheap all things considered. They are nice 223 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: pivot away from the Jets, nice pivot away from some 224 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: of these other games. Your thoughts on any other pieces 225 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: from this contest. 226 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: Drake Lennon and Drake London. If you're nasty, that's all 227 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: I got man London. The corners for the Tennessee are 228 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: still not great, but outside of that, this game just 229 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: feels like a total just nasty under Falcons have played, 230 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: have had a really good defense. I'm not in on 231 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: whoever the hell was gonna play quarterback for Tennessee. I 232 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: don't care if it's Leis, I don't care if it's Willis. 233 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I'm fading that entire offense. 234 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: I won Drake London, and then I'm just moving on 235 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: from this because again, b Jon Robinson, I'd love to 236 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: tell you that he's a great OPO play this week, 237 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: but against Tennessee. 238 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Just not a way I'm going next one here. This 239 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: was a shocking game a few weeks ago. I don't 240 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be quite as surprising this time around. 241 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: The Eagles Commanders matchup rematch, I should say, coming up 242 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: in Washington. Forty three and a half is the number 243 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: this weekend and this one. AJ Brown had himself a 244 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: day against the Washington Commanders last time. DeVonta Smith was 245 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: not bad either. I think there's gonna be a theme 246 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: this week, which is having exposure to the alpha dog 247 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: and then the the beta max if it will like. 248 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: I think that smith is is a real interesting pivot 249 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: away because people are gonna run to aj Brown again, 250 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: as they should, and you should have exposure to it. 251 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: Also. 252 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: I think Goddard is interesting in this game. Jalen Hurts, 253 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean automatic touchdown. Jalen Hurts, I mean he's just 254 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: automatic fantasy points. If you're gonna pay up for a 255 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: quarterback this week, that's the guy to do it. I 256 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: don't want to run it back. I think the Eagles 257 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: got caught napping last time against the Commanders. Not gonna 258 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: happen twice. They're coming off a big victory. I think 259 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: they handle their business here. But what do you think 260 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: about this game and this total as well, which again 261 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: forty three and a half pretty good number. 262 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm full fading the Washington Commander's offense right now. I've 263 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: already started my DFS chie chief for the week. I 264 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: have no Commanders in there at all. My favorite play 265 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: Joe out of this entire game is Dallas Goddard. I 266 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: love him this week. I've already bet his overs his 267 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: price makes no sense. He has the same type of 268 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: ceiling as the Kelsey, as the Andrews. He've already shown 269 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: us that he can get one hundred receiving yards. And 270 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: if you look at the commanders of the last two weeks, 271 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: and what I think that people don't really understand is 272 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: it's too It's that the Commanders have changed up their cornerbacks. 273 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: Emmanuel Forbes has been sent crying to the bench. He's 274 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: not gonna be out there. So AJ Brown, for as 275 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: much as I love him, he's not gonna have Emmanuel 276 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: Forbes at They're to Moss this week. So this pass 277 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 2: defense has played much much better over the last two 278 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: weeks since they made that one change. And so really 279 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of interest in the Eagles. 280 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: I have AJ Brown and Jim and Hurts written up 281 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: as GPP plays, but for me, it's Dallas Goddard. I 282 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: love him. He's a top three play this week on 283 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: the slate, and that's really who the only player I 284 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: want out of this game. In most of my lineups, 285 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: I like AJ Brown, but I think this could be 286 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: a game where he doesn't justify the price tag that 287 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to pay for him in. 288 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: Dk okay next one. Here we have on the slate. 289 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: We've got the New Orleans Saints and the Indianapolis Colts. 290 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned Josh Downs. He's a very cost effective piece still, 291 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: regardless of whatever you think about the New Orleans defense, 292 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara is a PPR our machine right now. I 293 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: don't care how many yards whatever it is. Just keep 294 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: giving me those those catches, just every single day. Just 295 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: keep giving me the catches. So Kamara very much in 296 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: play for me. Downs very much in play for me. 297 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: The rest of this game. I struggle with I do 298 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 1: like Rashid Shaheed on the you know, kind of peripheral, 299 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: that cheap dark throw guy, because you always need a 300 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: couple of those in your basket of tricks. But Debro, 301 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: this number is forty three and a half as well, 302 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: your thoughts on New Orleans Indianapolis. Any pieces you like. 303 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara and Josh Downs are core plays for me 304 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: this week. I don't want anybody else off. 305 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: The core plays. 306 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: Play cool, that's Alba Kamara has been an Alpha wide receiver. 307 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: Let's throw that out there against zone coverage. Alpha com 308 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara, Alpha Alpha Kamara. 309 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: No, I like Alpha Cama. 310 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: Alpha Camara. Yes, we're going with Alpha Kamara. So Alpha 311 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: Kamara has had a twenty eight percent target share against 312 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: zone coverage this year. Why does this matter? Indie run 313 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: zone at the second highest rate in the league. He's 314 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: going to get peppered. So play Alvin Kamara. Play Josh Downs. 315 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: Where you attack the Saints is via the slot. Alante 316 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: Taylor has struggled as a nickel corner this year. They 317 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: need to move him back to the boundary. Kid is talented, 318 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: but he has struggled as a nickel. So for me, 319 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: it's Alvin Kamara, It's Josh Downs. If you want to 320 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: sprinkle in Rashid Shaheed large field GPPs, you want to 321 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: play the get right game. For Derek Carr and Chris Olave, 322 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I think that they are viable 323 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: GPP plays because they are going to get on the 324 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: same page at some point. The colts outside corners have 325 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: played better, But for me, it's mostly Alvin Kamara at 326 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: Josh Downs. We're moving on baby. 327 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: All right, And don't forget everybody. 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If 345 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: you'll like what you see, and I think that you will, 346 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: let's see if we like what we see in this 347 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: next game Jacksonville and Pittsburgh. I don't know forty one 348 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: and a half again, d I look at the rest 349 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: of this slate and I'm excited about other things. Travis 350 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: Etn is appealing to me again, one of the many 351 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: running backs here on this slate to pay up for. 352 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: It's a tricky one. There's a lot of value wide receiver, 353 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: which is a good thing this week. We've already touched 354 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: on a few of them, like downs. And I look 355 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: at this game too, is if I'm going to cherry 356 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: pick one piece, it's atn two pieces, it's Christian Kirk 357 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: three pieces. I think I'm full. That's how I look at it. 358 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tell you to pull the spoon 359 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: back out, baby, because we're going to eat some of 360 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: this game. I think this game has sneaky shootout potential 361 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: if you're looking at how both these defenses played with 362 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: they're vulnerable against. Travis Etn is the first name that 363 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: I want to check off here. I think he's a 364 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: smash play love him this week. Pittsburgh's run defense has 365 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: not been great for the entirety of this season. The 366 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: second guy I want to bring up here is Christian 367 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: Kirk against man coverage, which Pittsburgh runs man coverage at 368 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: the fifth highest rate in the league. He has a 369 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: thirty percent target chair and a thirty two percent first 370 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: reach here. Those are good numbers people for context. So 371 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: Travis Et and Christian Kirk, we're gonna run it back 372 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: with George Pickens. Baby Jacksonville has not been good versus 373 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: the deep ball. They cannot defend the deep ball that 374 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: is George Pickens' wheelhouse. Even with Deontay Johnson back last 375 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: week over a thirty percent target chair, that man had 376 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: sixty percent of the air yards sixty So Deonty Johnson. 377 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: The the thing we need to bring up here is 378 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: he already came out in practice this week. He missed 379 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: a practice that hammy already acted up. He's supposed to 380 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: play this week. But that scares me about Deontay. If 381 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: Deontay is out, it is feed George Pickens weekend. So I, well, 382 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: see you weren't hungry enough, Joey. 383 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: Now you know you think you're full and then you 384 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: realize you got a room for a little bit more. 385 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: That's what happened. 386 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'll give you one more piece if you're 387 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: willing to sit here and eat a little bit more. 388 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: And this is this is a millionmaker. 389 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 2: Only one okay, So I get this, and this is 390 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: where you're you're saying, all right, I'm paying up for 391 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: all these parts of pieces. What is the last player 392 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: that I'm going to get in here to make it 393 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: all work? If you're willing to punt tight end down 394 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: the road, and just say, if I get a touchdown 395 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: out of this guy, I am happy. I'm cutting backflips. 396 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: Connor Hayward is going to run ninety percent of the routes. 397 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: Jacksonville is a top five matchup for tight ends. Connor 398 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 2: is not really a tight end. He's five to eleven. 399 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: He's a fullback, but he's running all the routes and 400 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: this is a good matchup. So Connor Hayward a name 401 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: I want to bring up here. And again, yeah you 402 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: can mix in some Calvin Ridley. Can you picket for 403 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: large field GPPs? 404 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: And that's about it. All right, Let's move on here 405 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: to the next one on the slate, Cleveland Seattle. I 406 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: always say defense travels, So I'm okay with the Cleveland defense, 407 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: just like I was last week too with Seattle. Last week, 408 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, I like Jackson Smith and Jigwa. That was 409 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: one of my favorite dart throws of the week, and 410 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: it could have even been better than it was. It 411 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: should have been better, but it was still returned. Still 412 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: return value was still good. Yeah, the TD. So we're 413 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: still liking that crazy backfield stuff going on here with drume. 414 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: Ford got into practice today, don't. I don't know what's 415 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: going on here with the Cleveland offense. I am fading 416 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: this game. Give me the Cleveland defense. That's the only 417 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: piece of this that I find appealing. 418 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: What do you think for me? I'm mostly fading this game. 419 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: But I will say if Kenneth Walker, who is trending 420 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: on being out this week, and Zach Sharpona went from 421 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: a limited to a full practice, you can run on 422 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, dude. So for me, I if Sharbone 423 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 2: opens up as a value piece, I'm gonna be all 424 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: in on that because I don't think that DJ Dallas 425 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 2: is gonna get any of the work away from him. 426 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: He could play on the early and the passing downs. 427 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: So for me, it's gonna be Zach Sharboney. I'm full 428 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: fading the Cleveland Browns. I want no part of that offense. 429 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: I do not care if Jerome Ford plays good for him, 430 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: I don't care. And that's pretty much it. 431 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: Kansadity Chiefs put on a show this past week. Now, 432 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: can they carry that momentum over against the Denver Broncos. 433 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm shaking the magic eight ball and it says yes. 434 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: That's what it says. The Denver Broncos game here in Denver. 435 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: Forty seven and a half is the number. Isaiah Pacheco 436 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: one of my core plays this week. Pachecko going against 437 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: the thirty second ranked rush defense coming off a game 438 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: where I know he only had thirteen carries for thirty two. 439 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: They're just saving them up for this one. That's what 440 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: I say, Derek. He's still had fourteen points because he 441 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: had the touchdown. That's a good thing of Rushie Rice 442 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: six k also a good play. Again. I don't want 443 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: to necessarily have to go up to this burn Dus 444 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: because last week we faded that game, I think a 445 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: little harder than we should have, and that was unfortunate 446 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: because Kelsey Mahomes did pay. But now I feel like 447 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: you have to stay true. So looking at the value 448 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: of the slate with so many games on it this week, 449 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: I think maybe that was the failure last week. If 450 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna own an l is with the shorter slate 451 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: with bipocalypse, stick with that thing that could really deliver, 452 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: and it completely did deliver this week, though people will 453 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: chase it and I think they should fade it again 454 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: a little bit, not completely, but a little bit. In 455 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: cash games, I get it. I'm not running back anything 456 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: from Denver. You can have all the Denver you want. 457 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this one here? In terms 458 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: of anything? For me, it's Rice and Pacheco. Those are 459 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: the two pieces that I like the most of this grouping. 460 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: What about you? Do you want Kelsey this week? Do 461 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: you want Mahomes this week? 462 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: I think you should. If you're running fifteen, well say 463 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 2: like five to ten lineups, having some exposure to Kelsey 464 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: or Mahomes is not wrong for me. Mostly yes, I'm 465 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: agreeing with you. I'm fading this. I will be paying 466 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: down for tight end. I want to pay up for 467 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: wide receivers. Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey are in play every 468 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: single time they put their cleats on. But for me, 469 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: Isaiah Pacheco, I think is where you go. And he's 470 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: not even my favorite play out of this game, Joey. 471 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: My favorite play is Javonte Williams. The Kansas City Chiefs 472 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: run defense has been not great. You can run on 473 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. I'm scared as all get out about their secondary. 474 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: But Javonte Williams is coming off arguably his best game 475 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: of the season. 476 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: Joe, that's my only concern. 477 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so if he plays more, can he catch check downs? 478 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: Sure he can? 479 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: I mean, is he going to see I mean Somaj 480 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: p Ryan and Julil McLoughlin are eating. They're eating each 481 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: other's lunch. They're basically sharing the same plate right now. 482 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: As far as backup work, if Javonte snaps go up 483 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: this week, that means less work for them and more 484 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: work for Javonte. I think this could be the game 485 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: we have been waiting for, Joe, for Javante to get unleashed. 486 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: And if you look at his price over on DK, 487 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: he's not gonna be played a lot. His price is 488 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: super palatable. Man, Like I'm looking at I gotta see 489 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: where he's at on FANDEL, But on DK he is 490 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: in the midst of all these other running backs. Like 491 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: people might mix in a little bit of Mandre, they 492 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: might mix in some of these other running backs, but 493 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: he's in no man's land. Javonte is at fifty two 494 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: hundred right now on DK, and nobody's gonna play him. 495 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: He's sub five percent projection and on FANDLE he is 496 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: at six K. So I just think he is a 497 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: play for a guy that could get twenty touches in 498 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: this game, and he's gonna get overlooked. People are gonna 499 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: play those mid range wide receivers in the flex on 500 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: DK over Javonte. I'm not saying it's wrong. I just 501 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: talked up George Pickens. There's another guy in that five 502 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: K range that I love, and I'm gonna be over 503 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: the moon for this week. But Javante is one of 504 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: my favorite plays of this entire slack. 505 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: Hey, look fifteen for eighty two last week, and he 506 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: caught some balls too, There's no doubt about that. All right, 507 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: Next one here Baltimore at Arizona. Baltimore put on a 508 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: show against the Lions forty four and a half. But 509 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: this is the problem here. Now against Arizona, lesser opponent, 510 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: do they play down a little bit? Now, Look, you 511 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: crushed that last week. You had all the Andrews, you 512 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: had all of the Lamar Jackson. I want to ask 513 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: you about those guys this week end. Zay Flowers in 514 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: that mix. Let's say Flowers is the same price roughly 515 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: as Josh Downs. Would you rather have this week? 516 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: I'm willing Flowers. I love both of them, but I 517 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: want Flowers and he is He's trending, He's going to 518 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: be uper chalky, and I don't care. I really do 519 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: not care. Zay Flowers. We have seen nothing but floor 520 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: games out of him all season long, Joe, we have 521 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: not gotten a ceiling game out of Zay Flowers. This 522 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: is a top five matchup for wide receivers. This is 523 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: the game where Zay Flowers goes absolutely bonkers. So eat 524 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: the chalk, pull out the bowl, get the biggest freaking 525 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: spoon in your house, and enjoy it. How about Twimmar 526 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 2: Jackson and a one save Flowers baby because he's interesting. 527 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: Pivot a tight end pay down? What's I mean? I 528 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: love the time, but I'm looking like, for instance, on FanDuel, 529 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: I can get Burrow, Breis Pacheco, Chase Brown, Zay Flowers 530 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: easily as long as Trade mc McBride is my tight end. 531 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: That's a pretty interesting cash game lineup to put together 532 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 1: with that one fade at tight end. 533 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm not against that. I mean I think that if 534 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: you're looking at paying down on a lot of different options. 535 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: Like I think that he makes a lot of sense. 536 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: That the only Arizona Cardinal I really have a lot 537 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: of interest in is Amri de Mercado. He played eighty 538 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: percent of the snaps. 539 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't play tight end, so I'm less interested 540 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: in him. Well you should be interested, Kelly. Everybody's going 541 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: to pay up for running backs this week, and I'm 542 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: with it. I'm not saying that's wrong. 543 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: But if you go OPO on this and you say, look, 544 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to pay down for Javonte, I'm going to 545 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: pay down for a Mari de Mercado who, in a 546 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: trailing game script played eighty percent of the snaps last week. 547 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: What's to stop him from doing that again? This week? 548 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: He got seventh, he touches seventy five total yards. If 549 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: he gets in the end zone with that similar tap 550 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: of stat line, he's gonna be one of the best 551 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: values of the entire freaking slate. So Amaro Demarcado makes 552 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: a lot of sense. And that way you're paying up 553 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: for wide receivers. We want to flip the build a 554 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: lot at different times, so you can eat the chalk 555 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: of playing Lamar playing Za by getting different by playing 556 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: De Mercado in some of these other running backs. Man, 557 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: so I'm even on Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews is gonna 558 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: be sub five percent rostered. And I get that Arizona 559 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: has been on paper good versus tight ends. The only 560 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: reason they're good versus tight ends is because everybody else 561 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: and their mama eats versus them. 562 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: It's like, we don't have to worry about tight ends 563 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: because all the wide receivers, we can't stop them. Well, 564 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is their wide receiver one. 565 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: Slash two on this team. So Lamar. The way that 566 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: you get different with your Lamar stacks is you play Lamar, 567 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: you play Za, you play Mark Andrews, and you're running 568 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: back with De Mercado, and you enjoy. You just pop 569 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: the beer open, you sit a the couch and you just. 570 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: Say, mmmm, this is a beautiful feeling, you know. Javante 571 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: on the DK slate to a fifty two. That value 572 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: makes sense to me. FanDuel is a harder sell at 573 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: his price point compared to his peers. But the other 574 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: one on DK, that one is very interesting. All right, 575 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: Let's get to another big game here. Last one on 576 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: the main slate, Cincinnati, San fran obviously. You know, of course, 577 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey just scores touchdowns. That's all he does every 578 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: single week. We don't have clarity as of right now. 579 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: I know Perdy was practicing, but that doesn't mean he's 580 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: cleared from anything I've seen as we're recording this right now. 581 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: So a lot of that is in flux right now. 582 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: With Sam Darnold. 583 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: I would be fading Joe Mixon anyway, because Joe Mixon 584 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: never does anything, but but I love Joe Burrow this week. 585 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: I think he is the interesting oppo quarterback play of 586 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: the season here seventy one hundred over on FanDuel Jamar 587 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: Chase just eighty five hundred. Is that pairing or if 588 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: you want to go to t Higgins and start to 589 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: again go to some of those second dary guys, he 590 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: is just sixty eight hundred. I could see Higgins just 591 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: as easily having a big game with a touchdown here 592 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: as I could Jamar your thoughts on this one, because 593 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm in on the Cincinnati upset anyway, and I might 594 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: as well just keep investing. 595 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: What do you think I'm so in on Joe Burrow? 596 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: This week, the report came out about him taking snaps 597 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: under center, which people are reading that they're like, oh, 598 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: that's interesting, that's cute. What you really need to take 599 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: away from that is if he's taking snaps under center 600 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: and he's dropping back, the calf is healthy or a 601 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: lot healthier than we've seen of any version of Joe 602 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: Burrow this year. So Joe Burrow hell, yes, and also 603 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. I'm totally in on him smashing this secondary 604 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: the name that I want to bring up and I'm 605 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: gonna mention his name. And you not heard me talk 606 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: about this guy the entire season, but since week four, 607 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: this is one of the top matchups for slot wide receivers. 608 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: Tyler Boyd is in play. If you're gonna double stack 609 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow this week, I want you to go Joe Burrow, 610 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, and Tyler Boyd. And they were running it 611 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: back with CMC and George Kittle. The way that you 612 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: attack the Cincinnati defense is you run the ball versus 613 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: them and you use the tight end. This game could 614 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: shoot out. And to update as far as the Brock 615 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: Party stuff, an hour ago, John Lynch said on Series 616 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 2: six M that party is still in concussion protocol considering 617 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 2: that I don't think we see him. 618 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: Look, I think you got to consider this so surprise. 619 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: It's very rare that somebody's in concussion protocol and plays 620 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: that week. Again, it never happens. It never happens once 621 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: every twenty times. So do not anticipate that. I would 622 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: anticipate getting sam Darnold now and make what you want. 623 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: To That's all I'll say. Play play the Bengals defense. 624 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: They're one of the best plays of the slate as well. 625 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: That's an interesting one. I haven't heard anybody talked about 626 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: that one. In terms of the price too. You're looking 627 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: at them, they are very cheap. They're thirty six hundred 628 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: over on fan duel side on DK two. I see 629 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: the falcon in Jersey, Joe. 630 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen Sammy Darnold plate play quarterback him over? 631 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: It's the worst part is it's October and he has 632 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: a history of seeing ghosts. 633 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: That's what he says, not my word to see them 634 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: this week. 635 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: So, by the way, the Cardinals defense on DK I 636 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: didn't even look at this twenty one hundred this week, 637 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: so fascinating. Talk about free square time, But yeah, I 638 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: mean you pay down into Bengals season's ghost. If you're 639 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: paying down for defense, it's the Bengals and it's the Patriots. 640 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: For me, they're gonna be my two highest roster defenses 641 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: right behind the Vikings this week. All right, there we 642 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: have it, everybody, that's the main slate. Don't forget to 643 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: subscribe to Betting Pros YouTube channel and of course our 644 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: podcast feed and click that little bell on YouTube until 645 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: it goes dings. You know, every time a piece of 646 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: content drops here. We got live streams, We've got college football, 647 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: NBA is here as well. 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