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Speaker 1: Hi everyone. I'm Rachel Zoe and I'm Roger Burmant and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to works for us. We talk to people

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Speaker 1: about what works in their relationships and of course what doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Today's episode, I am incredibly excited about this one is

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Speaker 1: all about best friends and strong female friendships that I mean,

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Speaker 1: we hope last a lifetime. Right. This particular subject is

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Speaker 1: really really compelling to me because I think that female

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Speaker 1: friendships can be the most extraordinary thing in the world

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Speaker 1: and also the most challenging sometimes. And the reason that

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have the guests we have on

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Speaker 1: today is because they are, in my mind, the perfect,

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Speaker 1: truest example of the absolute best, bestest best friends I've

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Speaker 1: ever known in my life. And I'm very fortunate because

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Speaker 1: the two of them have to be two of my

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Speaker 1: closest best friends. But I have to say their relationship

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Speaker 1: is one two suspense is killing who's on our God,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now. Okay, They're like, it

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Speaker 1: is it is, It's it's bay. So our guests today

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Speaker 1: are two amazing women that have known each other for many,

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Speaker 1: many many years. Um the beautiful, gorgeous, talented, brilliant, jewelry

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Speaker 1: designer Jennifer Meyer. Um, you all know she's an incredible

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Speaker 1: jewelry designer. Her list of clients, I mean is really

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Speaker 1: like a vanity fair party. But UM, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston, Scarlett Johnson, Emma Stone, Sarah Foster, Rachel's I mean,

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Speaker 1: it just goes on for day. Um, Sarah Foster, you

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Speaker 1: are so many things. You are an entrepreneur, you are

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Speaker 1: an actress, you are mom, You are developing shows for

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Speaker 1: twentieth Century Fox, and you are head of creative at Bumble.

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Speaker 1: Also just launched Favorite Daughter and UM also launching an

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Speaker 1: incredible podcast that I will certainly listen to. UM. I

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Speaker 1: also want to mention that Jin is an incredible entrepreneur

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Speaker 1: and also a I mean worship her as a mother.

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Speaker 1: She kind of defines an amazing mother. So, UM, what

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Speaker 1: about Sarah's mother, heard skills, Sarah's Well, we'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: I just know, I just I just wanted to be

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Speaker 1: her kids a couple hours. Agoy, Sarah's incredible mother. But

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about all that, all right, So girls,

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Speaker 1: welcome to works for us everybody. We're really excited to

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Speaker 1: talk to that title. I love that works for us.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think the thing that we get asked

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Speaker 1: It's it's amazing, what do you thirty years or something? Crazy? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're almost thirty years. Get ready to party. It's also

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Speaker 1: so true of all the different dynamics, right, husband, wife,

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Speaker 1: best friend, best friend, mother, daughter. It's like what works

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Speaker 1: for one person is not working for another person. And

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Speaker 1: I love that you're having on people these different dynamics

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Speaker 1: where you can explore what works for different couples. Jen

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Speaker 1: and I are a couple, a true true like you know,

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Speaker 1: so Sarah's one hundred percent my wife. Yea. By the way,

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Speaker 1: there have been moments where I've been with you guys

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Speaker 1: have been like it would actually be way easier if

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Speaker 1: they were married, if we were attracted to a thousand percent,

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Speaker 1: like it's less dramatic. Okay, so you guys, I know

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Speaker 1: She was Sarah Meyer's older sister. I went to high

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Speaker 1: so she was off at Syracuse majoring in psychology. Jen

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Speaker 1: thank you. Sarah's my PR consultant. I tell everybody Jen

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Speaker 1: But doesn't that make perfect sense? Who gives better advice

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Speaker 1: I'm a hater and totally Jen is like you're like

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Speaker 1: your friends are all beautiful. Like You're like, you're beautiful,

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Speaker 1: that's that I had no choice. I had to love them,

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Speaker 1: like while we were talking about like, oh wait, ninth

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Speaker 1: But I was always like the youngest of the group

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Speaker 1: you know, Rachel. It's it's different because Jen always had

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Speaker 1: like Jen always had like her separate lives, right, so

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Speaker 1: like you might not have met her in the beginning

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Speaker 1: the other day. Sarah and I um lived in the

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Speaker 1: the Granville. Wow, we I remember and I was twenty first.

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Speaker 1: Oh see, I didn't know you when you lived there.

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Speaker 1: Rachel lived there by her original before we officially she

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Speaker 1: Who are the other Celebsita? We had a long list

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426
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427
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: And how did your mom's influence you? They're both obviously

428
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: we know them both well and they're very very strong.

429
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: You guys have worried they are your parents? Are your

430
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: mom's friends or how does that all work? Yeah, they

431
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: are friends, and they love each other and they have

432
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: a lot of similarities. And you know, my mom always worked.

433
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: There was you know, never a day that my mom

434
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: didn't work, and Sarah's mom, like you know, was beyond

435
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: a full time mother and did all my stuff too,

436
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: and now time grandmother. Oh my gosh, she's literally in

437
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: the kitchen right now, of course preparing dinner for me

438
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: at her Working was never it wasn't a choice. I'll

439
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: never forget the conversation that my dad had with me

440
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: because I had I was just finished college. I lied

441
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: and said I had graduated when I didn't. And but

442
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: I had my entire family come to Syracuse to walk

443
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: me walk. So I felt like if they had watched

444
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: me walk that they would think I had graduated. I

445
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: would have been in the clear um. And then they

446
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: do not know this. But because I've actually never told

447
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: this story, it's a horrible and one for us. But

448
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: Jenmeyer exclusive and someone from the college had asked my

449
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: dad to come speak at the college, and they said,

450
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: you know, if Jennifer, you know, wants to continue to

451
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: speak to a guidance counselor or somebody about finishing her credits,

452
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: were more than happy to help her with understanding what

453
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: she needs to finish. And he said finish what. They

454
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: went to a graduation. She graduated, and they're like oh no,

455
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: no, no no, she doesn't. There was no diploma in that thing.

456
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: We handed her story and I remember my dad calling

457
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: me saying, did you not graduate? I was like, what

458
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: are you talking about? You saw me graduate. Of course

459
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: I graduated. And that was a bad day. It's all

460
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: I could say. And then he said what's your plan?

461
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: And I and it was two weeks after school and

462
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I'm just gonna take some time off

463
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: and figure it out. And he said You're gonna take

464
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: time off from what? And I was like, I don't know.

465
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: I just did you know? Four years of college? And

466
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: he said, I'm going to be very clear. You've just

467
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: had a two week vacation. You have two weeks to

468
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: find a job. Two weeks, he said. And I won't

469
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: give you one cent, he said. You can live with

470
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: me for as long as you want. You could eat

471
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: my food, you can watch my TV. I will not

472
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: charge you rent. He said. I won't give you a

473
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: dime for insurance. I won't give you a dime for

474
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: a car. I won't give you a dime for gas.

475
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: I won't give you a dime to go to dinner

476
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: with your friends or to go to a movie with

477
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: your friends. He's like, and at some point they'll they'll

478
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: pay for you to go to a movie or dinner,

479
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: and then they'll get very sick of paying for you.

480
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm sick a paying for you. You're never gonna stop. Father,

481
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: I've like never paid for her once. Jen's the person.

482
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: Don't think I was. I was going to correct that

483
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: floated foster girls for for a few years. Are you

484
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: what are you saying I'm cheap now? But that was

485
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: that My dad said like, hey, you know what, I'll

486
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: help you if you have a job, I'll help you.

487
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: If you don't have a job, you get nothing. Like. Guys,

488
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: here's the misconception, and you're going to see this. I

489
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: think that's as your as your boys get older. You know,

490
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: I used to get super defensive when people be like, oh, well,

491
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: your dad, your dad, and it's like, let's just be like, yes,

492
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: a parent can help to a certain extent, but guess what,

493
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: Jen can't keep you there. Jen's dad is not. No

494
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: one gives a fuck when they're buying a Jenmire necklace

495
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: that her dad is an agent. Che cares, No one cares.

496
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: He's no longer an agent. But yes, but I'm just

497
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: saying he's like the biggest agent of all time. I'm

498
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: just saying, no one gives a shit, no one is watching,

499
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, barely famous because they're like, oh, well their

500
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: dad is. That's like, no one can make me funny.

501
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't work like that. I'm sick of our dads.

502
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about our friendship. But it's but it's important,

503
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: and it's important, and I do think that you guys,

504
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: really I think that's part of I think that's one

505
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: of the many ways that you guys connect. And also

506
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: for Roger and I just so you guys know, not

507
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: growing up here, we always use both of you and

508
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: your sisters as the best examples of kids that grew

509
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: up here with everything and came out the most unspoiled, grounded, grateful.

510
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, like forever, I would never in my

511
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: life know or care who your parents were, based on

512
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: just knowing the two of you. I just do want

513
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,239
Speaker 1: to say about David though, Sarah's dad, David Foster, like

514
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: that guy, that guy slacker, very handsome. He is very handsome.

515
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so handsome. I was gonna say, like

516
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: David was always you know, my dad's like a dad

517
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: dad and like would never, we'd never go to dinner

518
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: with him or meet him out. He r around and

519
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: we you know, go to dinners at his house and

520
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: do a lot of things like that. So Sarah's super

521
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: close to my dad and I'm super close to her dad.

522
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 1: And he was always the guy that was like, you know,

523
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: would sit down and meet us for dinner and be

524
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: like tell me what's going on, Jen, and wanting to

525
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: give good advice and really help us and thank you

526
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: for coffee when I was like nineteen, because he was

527
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: worried about me one hundred percent. When I Sarah had

528
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: just what was the video? A music video? Yeah? Ba

529
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys? Sorry, thank you. Sarah was a star in

530
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: the Backstreet Boys video and it was a major I

531
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: styled that video. Oh there you go. I was supposed

532
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: to be Alicia Silverstone. I don't know what happened here.

533
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: By the way, Sarah is a brilliant actress, and it

534
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: makes me crazy that she doesn't do it consistently because

535
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: she's the funniest, most amazing coming coming in my sixties.

536
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: I'll get into it, Okay, So you guys have a

537
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: total opposite question for you. Yes, what if Annie? Because

538
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: I hope. I mean, I hope that you have an

539
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: answer for this unless it's never what's the biggest fight

540
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: you've ever gotten into, if you've ever one, if you

541
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: can say it, if you're comfortable saying it, maybe this

542
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: We joke that we've never had a big fight where

543
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: our friendship has been rocked. We we've had arguments and

544
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: we've had disagreements, but like, but it's over in five minutes. Well,

545
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: let's be honest. There is one and we won't do

546
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: go into names, but there was one time in our

547
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: lives where where my like somebody that I was dating,

548
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: was very close with her with someone who she was with.

549
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: So that gets complicated, right, So this this is early

550
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: this is when we were in early twenties, and so

551
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: that is like the only time in our life twenty

552
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: years ago where we had like where we were tested,

553
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: where things were tested, but it wasn't It was more

554
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: of like the out outside situations and less about us.

555
00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: And I would say, we haven't been tested in twenty years. Yeah, yeah,

556
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you've never tested. That's not the right word,

557
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: but you know what I meant, Matters of the heart

558
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: get things complicated. And Sarah and I were very intertwined

559
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: at a time of our life when I was you know,

560
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: we yes, I was getting married and this person was

561
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: very complicated when when relationships start and end and this

562
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: and that and you're connected and like, but like twenty

563
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: years ago, if that was our last yeah, and listen,

564
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: we've had moments. But the truth is, and I joke like,

565
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't have the time or the space in a

566
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: day to be angry at Sarah because I need her

567
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: too badly. Yeah, and I have too many questions and

568
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: like she is my like I always say, she's kind

569
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: of my rock, Like you have that rock where you

570
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: just like touch it, You're like, okay's things good? Sure,

571
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: So I need Sarah, So I like really have no

572
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: space to be angry at her. I don't have a choice, Like,

573
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: and you're always ready to make up, and I like

574
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: we should we joke, well, we two jokes, like we

575
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: have two things that we say, and I just want

576
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: to before I forget, we'll talk will be the last

577
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: phone call of the night at like eleven pm, and

578
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: then we'll get on the phone to like seven am

579
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: and have so much to talk about and we're like, wait,

580
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: we all we did was sleep by the way a hundred.

581
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: My sister and I are like that. I'm like, I

582
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: don't understand how we still can talk for an hour.

583
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 1: So it's so freaking nuts. But like Jen and I

584
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: fight different. I mean, fight is not the way where

585
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: we disagree because Jen is like, she is organized, she's

586
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 1: on top of it. She's got like a successful business,

587
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: so she knows how to operate with people. And we

588
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: will get into a disagreement and I will just go silent.

589
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: I will not pick up her call. I'm like, I

590
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: need some time, and she is like, oh no, you don't.

591
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: This is not how adults operate. Sarah, you pick up

592
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: your phone and we're gonna deal with this because I

593
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: can't go through the day with us, you know, being

594
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: in a disagreement. She forces me to deal with shit,

595
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: and it's annoying. Thank god, Sarah, because you because Sarah,

596
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: you have been known to vanish once in a while.

597
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: You know the amount of times they've gotten a text

598
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: or a call. Hey have you talked to Sarah. I'm like, no,

599
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: I can't. But now that Jan is the exception, we

600
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: know that. I mean, for anyone listening to this, there's

601
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: something about Sarah Foster that you know, Roger and I

602
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: have another friend for a long time, that you love

603
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: them so deeply and truly and everything about them that

604
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: when they don't return your text or call for like

605
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: a week and then they do, you don't care that

606
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: they didn't return it for a week because it doesn't matter,

607
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: because it doesn't make them a worse person. You accept

608
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: them for who they are and you love them. With Sarah,

609
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: that happens to almost everybody in her life except for

610
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: jan So I think everybody who knows that, and it's okay,

611
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: and and I kind of love that about you, Sarah.

612
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: But I will say, just in her defense, I'm not

613
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: a defense Sarah. It's not that she's gotten better. I'm

614
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: not necessarily going to say that, but she is. There

615
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: is not a moment she's not there when it matters.

616
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: That's I don't care. Yeah, she's not good at like

617
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, shooting the shit a total of time, and

618
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: just like you know, and I think she sees a

619
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: text and she's like, I have so much more to

620
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: write to that person, Just what's up? You good? Say

621
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 1: so many things and she literally like ten more things happen.

622
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: I will also say I'm at Sarah's right now. She

623
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: is full time doing her favorite daughter clothing company, doing

624
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: all of these things, you know, twentieth Century Fox. She

625
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: builds these companies, and she really is a full time mom.

626
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: She's got two kids here on Zoom. They're little kids

627
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: every second, Mom, can you make me this? I only

628
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: want my mom. Mom's this math problem and she is

629
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: like she's trying. She's not great at her time management. Nope,

630
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: And that's that's really if, that's if, that's her biggest

631
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: fault because she wants to respond to everybody. She wants

632
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: to call everybody. We also have this beautiful thing where

633
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: our kids are best friends. Yeah, Oh, it's imagine I

634
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: was going to talk about that. I actually want to

635
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: talk about that. But can I just fit wrap like

636
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: put a in that. No, But I think that's just

637
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: a testament to being best friends. Is it's Jen's my

638
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: safe person? Yes. So if it's someone else calling me,

639
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I just can't deal with that right now.

640
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I can answer and then get

641
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: into what I'm actually dealing with right now, which is

642
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: I've missed this deadline. I'm in a fucked up situation

643
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: with this other person. This with Jen, I can just

644
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: be like it is the craziest day. I am losing

645
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: my shit. I'm about to jump off of sucking ledge

646
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: And she's like, Nope, okay, great, call me later. You

647
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like she's such a she's such

648
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: a safe person and gets it. But like, I have

649
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: a lot of shit to work on as a friend.

650
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: You know, I need to work on the kind of

651
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: friend I am. Yes, I am. You know that's You're

652
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: an amazing I think, Sarah, we I think we. I

653
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: think you have an incredible group female friends that literally

654
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: would live or die for you. And I think for

655
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: a noone accepts the fact that you may not be

656
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: the quickest responder. I'm not the quickest responder. That's her

657
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: only fault. I'm the last person to start like yelling

658
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: at someone about that. No. But it's like everybody's busy.

659
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: It's not like it's it's not an excuse of like,

660
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: oh well I'm really busy. We're all fucking busy. I

661
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: just I have like my wires crossed something when it

662
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: comes to just coping with life, and I just sometimes

663
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: go like I don't know how to cope with life.

664
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: And I think that's human Sarah makes sense, So let's

665
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: move along. I want to ask them, Um, do you

666
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: guys think friends should go into business together? How do

667
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: you feel about that compo? Would you guys do something too?

668
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Would you We think it's insane that we don't. It

669
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: makes zero sense. I'm really ready to kick Aaron to

670
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: the curb. I need a new business partner. We're Aaron

671
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: and I are into too many things together. Look, the

672
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: truth is, Jen and I could start a company tomorrow.

673
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm not launch it to are, but start really marinating

674
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: on something to do together in business. But I think

675
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: the thing that we connect on the most is charity.

676
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Jen and I are equally passionate about children's suffering, whether

677
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: it's hunger, whether it is cancer, whether it is whatever.

678
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: Half of our conversations are sending things back and forth,

679
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: how can we help this person? When I post a

680
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: family that needs help, she's the first person to donate,

681
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: and vice versa. The thing that I think that that

682
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: would be the most meaningful thing to do together because

683
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: we're both equally passionate about it. But like, we have

684
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: to be doing something together. It's a no brainer. We'll

685
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: get there, that's for sure. Oh, I'm trying to get

686
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: her to do something for favorite daughter. If we weren't

687
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: best friends, that's definitely way beneath her. But because we are,

688
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: we are doing so she's not allowed to say we've

689
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: already committed. It's I've already been dropping the wait until

690
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: you see it, it's going to be very cute. Yes, well, okay,

691
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: So I have another question you guys. Is there something

692
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Jen you kind of answered this

693
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: earlier a little bit, and maybe you did too, Sarah,

694
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: But is there something that you guys get from each

695
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: other that you don't get from your siblings? Oh? I mean,

696
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, is there's something

697
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: that you lean on each other? Like I think a

698
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: lot and I die for your sisters, both of them,

699
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: And so are there certain things you just say it's

700
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: automatic for you to go to each other before your sisters?

701
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just different. I think, like touching on what

702
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: we sort of touched on before. When you don't have

703
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: that added element of childhood history, right, there's just like

704
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: a layer that is just not there when discussing situations, problems.

705
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: No judgments, right, like no prejudgments, It's just judgments. It's

706
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: just I mean, we have probably have a different answer

707
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: because Jen and Sarah have a very different relationship than

708
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, me and my siblings. But I'll let you go. Jen, No,

709
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: I think I think Sarah's right. I mean, we are

710
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: both so lucky. You know, as much as Sarah and

711
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: Aaron can joke about their sister, of course they're they're

712
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: best friends and they're amazing, and my sisters are. I

713
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: don't know what I would do without them, but yes,

714
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: there there is, and we're so lucky that we have

715
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: those friendships with our sisters where we count on them

716
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: for absolutely everything, just like you have with Pam. Like, yes,

717
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: it is, it's like a it's a built in everything

718
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, to have sisters and Sarah, Sarah and I

719
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: feel equally as lucky. I don't. It's it's very hard

720
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: to describe mine and Sarah's friendship. It is. It goes

721
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: so beyond and and yes, sisters or sisters in our

722
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: respect for our sisters just for life, but Sarah and

723
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: I separate from our sisters. It's so hard to describe

724
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: our friendship. When I when I say it's my rock,

725
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: I really mean it. It's like when there's chaos or

726
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: there's things going on. I know I have Sarah to

727
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: count on. I know I have her to be like, yo,

728
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: I need you right now. Two minutes my phone rings

729
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: as my text is going through. It's like the easiest,

730
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: most effortless like yes, but by the way, guys, we

731
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: should also talk about like I get jealous sometimes, like

732
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: I'm very territorial of it Jen. That was my next

733
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: questions A lot of friends and I just wanted to

734
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: talk about that, being like probably less interested in like

735
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: dealing with other people. They feel like I see Jen

736
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: posting a lot, and why are you really best friends with?

737
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: Like yeah, so like Sarah, Sarah was friends with Courtney

738
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: does well you know, the truth is like we're we

739
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: pretty we do have a lot of the same friends.

740
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: But like everyone wants to be Jen's best friend and

741
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: that's great. I'm happy for her, I mean not really,

742
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: but they do you know, I'm going to back you up,

743
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: but having that, thank you, But how did this wind

744
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: up that the two of you are on this sh

745
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: so you can announced to the whole world like hey,

746
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: everyone else is kind of like no, but everyone knows.

747
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: That's how I read it. Everyone everyone knows Experior like listen.

748
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: Jen have a lot of friends, and there have definitely

749
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: been times where I'm like, oh really, oh really, you're

750
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: going to dinner with that person. Oh okay, you know what,

751
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: call me a couple of days, I don't this shit

752
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: in my life, and I have to catch myself because

753
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's enough to go around. It's all. I'm

754
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: just being super honest, um that it's like, but at

755
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Jen could have a million friendships.

756
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: And I know. And I was just explaining this to

757
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: my to my ten year old, because my ten year old,

758
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure she gets it from me. She's becoming very

759
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: territorial of her friends. And I'm like, yeah, I know,

760
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, the otis will always be your best friend.

761
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: It's okay that him and Mia are becoming really close,

762
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what is wrong with her? And I'm like, oh, okay, well,

763
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: clearly the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Okay.

764
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,240
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00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful for each and every member of

766
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Speaker 1: but I do think to that point. You guys, I

788
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: think it's important to note that there are certain people

789
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: in this world, and I know a very small amount

790
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: of them. My mother happens to be one of them,

791
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: and Jen, I have always believed that you're one of them.

792
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: And Roger and I say this all the time. There's

793
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: something about you that people I think because you are

794
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: so genuine and who you are, and I think there's

795
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: an effortlessness about you that um you make whoever you're

796
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: with feel like they matter and you listen, and I

797
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: think that people do want to be your best friend.

798
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: I think you have that gift a billion percent. You

799
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: somehow make everyone feel in the most genuine, absolute genuine

800
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: way that you are a billion percent there for them,

801
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: that you are there, you are their friend. And I

802
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: think that that's a real gift, because there are a

803
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: lot of people that just piece out when they're not

804
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: interested or like this, Like, I do believe that a

805
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: lot of people would call you their best friend, you know,

806
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly do, but I would say, but

807
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: at the same time, like you're misinformed, BOFE don't know,

808
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: because there is a very real understanding between every single

809
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: one of us that Jen and Sarah are literally the

810
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: closest to you. And it's, by the way, nobody wants

811
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: a touch it. Yeah, I understand the dynamics of this. Well, okay,

812
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: with that, you know how we talk about friends like

813
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, peripheral friends or friends in oh okay, they

814
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: really like feel themselves now and they have changed and

815
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: now they're friends with blah blah blah. Like everyone's got

816
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: that in their in their friend group. Jen has not changed.

817
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: I agree. Jen's just always been social. Everyone's always loved her.

818
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: She's always been friends with everyone. She's always been a

819
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: good friend. Like she's the same person today. I mean,

820
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: you might be a little more fun now, I don't know,

821
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: but like she is really, but she's she hasn't really fun.

822
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: She hasn't changed like for all the people that you

823
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: are when she was. But you haven't, I mean you

824
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: you really haven't. We all friends who have changed, like

825
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: I've changed, by the way, But let me ask you

826
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: a question about that. But Jen had kids first, right,

827
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Jen? Jen taught us all how to mom

828
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: So how did that? Like what was that all about?

829
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: We were like, uh, later for you, mommy, like not

830
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: later for you, but like were you did you feel

831
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: like you were having a kid too? Like that? Will

832
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: was I jealous when Jen got pretty well, you know,

833
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get like, yeah, like what's up with that?

834
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: Because all of a sudden you're like in the same

835
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: partner of your life building career, and then all of

836
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: a sudden she's a mom and you're not Kate the longest,

837
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: but Kate, you know, Kate was like a hippie. She

838
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: was on the road and running and you know, going

839
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: to concerts and doing movies. And I remember the day

840
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: the night um I went into labor, and or the

841
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: night before and uh with Ruby with Ruby, and I

842
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: was so weird because I had to walk to get

843
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: it going because they thought my water was about whatever

844
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: it was, you weren't dilating. Something happened. And I'll never

845
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: thank you to my wife. I'll never forget Toby, who

846
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: we all know. You guys all know Toby and my

847
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: ex husband. And he liked to be in control very much.

848
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: And he said, um, Sarah's going to come go on

849
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: the walk with you, And I was like, whoa great

850
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: great Like I was like, Toby's giving up a little

851
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: control if I was my walk, We mean around her

852
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: doctor's choir like circles around and Sarah came. She's like,

853
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: I have to talk to you. And I was like, what,

854
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: what what? What's more important than me going to labor

855
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: right now? She's like, I'm leaving for Prague in the morning.

856
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm sorry, you're where. I'm so sorry.

857
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: What are you doing like for a month and a half,

858
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: two months going to Prague for two months tomorrow? I

859
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: was like, you you're joking. So I'm literally having my

860
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: first baby. And Sarah's on a plane to Prague. I

861
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: was like, oh my, and I'll never forget the day.

862
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: She came back and I sort of handed her to

863
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: Ruby over to Sarah. Sarah was the best. I mean,

864
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: that's Ruby's anti Rara, Like that's her you know, other mom.

865
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: Like that was and you and Toby were married for

866
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: you were together. You weren't married, but you were together

867
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: for so long. It was sort of the natural progression

868
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: her having a baby. And then I didn't so en

869
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: to go first. Yeah, and then I had my I

870
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: had Valentina like a few years after that, so it

871
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: was pretty close. I mean, it was it was it

872
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: was perfect, you know, and I learned. I mean, honestly,

873
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: I blame you for my saggy ass tits because Jens

874
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: fed or like nine hundred years. I was like, oh,

875
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: if I don't breastfeed like her, I'll be I'm like

876
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: some deadbeat. So I just did everything she did, which

877
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: you know you didn't. I recommend Sarah had no help.

878
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: She didn't have anyone helping her. Very well, yeah, there's

879
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: no metal for that. There's no metal for that. Like

880
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have a baby nurse. I didn't have any

881
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: of that ship with Valentina. I did when I had

882
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: You did have Rebecca the Queen, No, but I didn't.

883
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: That's the difference my mom. Actually, my mom was with

884
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: Ron that was sort of like the last like a

885
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: couple of years of his life. And my god actually

886
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: not really around for Valentina, you know. But but it

887
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I I remember that, Sarah. I do remember

888
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: that I saw what present parenting was from Jen, and

889
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: I just and I and I there was just sort

890
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: of no other way to do it. And I'm not

891
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: judging other moms. Everyone does what works for them. But

892
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: I did learn how to become a mom from Jen,

893
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: and therefore breastfeed my kids for four hundred years. Sorry, honestly, well,

894
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: I got my boobs done, so it's fine. Oh my god,

895
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: I should do that. Because you guys, where do you

896
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: where do you see your friendship in twenty years. I'm

897
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: sure you don't think about that, but where do you

898
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: see it? I feel like you're going to be doing

899
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: exactly what you're doing right now. I'm trying to live

900
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: in the moment, Rachel. That's what I've been working on

901
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: with my therapist is I don't live in the moment.

902
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. I'm thinking about she's not getting rid of

903
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: me this moment. Twenty years from now. No, I mean,

904
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: well we have grandkids. In twenty we might have grandkids. Yeah,

905
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: kids young, I'm waiting. I'm not ready for that. Listen,

906
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: in twenty years, I don't see our I think I

907
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: see our friendship just getting better and better and better.

908
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: She's stuck with me for life. One of us has

909
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: a beach house. That would be nice for Yeah, that's

910
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: the goal for sure, Right, I'd like one of us

911
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: to have a beach Why don't you get a beach house? Okay,

912
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: doesn't go in the ocean. Hell no, what is the

913
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: most fun you've ever had together, if you were like

914
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: that was the like replaceable moment, thickest timekest thing into

915
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: one moment. I mean, god, we've had fun birthday parties,

916
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: We've had fun vacations, We've had fun baby showers. I mean,

917
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: we've done it all. We've done it all. Like, how

918
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: do we even pick? We've had so much fun. We're

919
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: so lucky, it's not even we had so much fun

920
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: before kids. Oh my god, they really messing. We really

921
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: go back to that before kids, What was the most fun?

922
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: Like you guys remember, like you're like, oh my god,

923
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: we were rock stars, Like that was the night. Well,

924
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: we had like a poker that name, so we had

925
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: oh we'll give names. We don't give a shit. We

926
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: had like we had a lot, Like we had a

927
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: lot of nights where we played a lot of charades

928
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: and a lot of good celebrity. Celebrity was great Jen's

929
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: house in my early twenties. It was just a sanctuary.

930
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: And honestly, the times I'd come to Thrasher and we

931
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: would literally watch like sex in this rash. We would

932
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: have sex in the city every Sunday and we'd watch

933
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: it and we'd order food and that room that room,

934
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: just such good times like not here in the damn world.

935
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: A lot of years of a lot of fun costs

936
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: about of years of a lot of fun and life

937
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: got real series, Yes, a lot of years. Now I'm

938
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: just trying to plan a dam ski trip together. It's

939
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: like we can't even plan a trip together anymore. Okay,

940
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: So I have a question you guys, as someone who,

941
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: as I mentioned in the beginning, um, I have had.

942
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: You know, I am a believer that great women are

943
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: the greatest, and I do think there are women that

944
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: aren't the greatest. Because I don't want to be delusional.

945
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to just say like all women are

946
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: awesome because I think i've I've had I have not

947
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: always been supported by women, let's put it that way,

948
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: since I was very very young. And I guess my

949
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: question for you that I think a lot of people

950
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: would be curious about is if some were to say,

951
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how to have a friendship that deep.

952
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how to go that deep with someone.

953
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how to let everything down to have

954
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: that safe person who's a best friend in that way

955
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: that takes that role in my life. Because Roger has

956
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: that he has that he has best friends are like

957
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: his brothers, true and true. But I guess my question

958
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: is for women out there that are that are listening

959
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: and thinking about their friendships, what do you think? I

960
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: guess what. I don't want to say your advice because

961
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: it's hard to create. But I guess the question is

962
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: for someone who struggles with friendships, what is your What

963
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: would you say is like the magic that you have

964
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: to try and like get through to create a relationship

965
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, listen, First of all, you can't make

966
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: new old friends. You can make a lot of great

967
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: new friends, you know, And I think that I mean

968
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: it's sort of just like the law of life, like

969
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: treat people the way you would want to be treated.

970
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: So you really want to invest in friendships. It's like

971
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: be open, be loving, don't be judgmental and keep a secret,

972
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When people confide in you,

973
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: like you to like treat that treat that information how

974
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: you would want that person to treat your information. You know,

975
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: really invest and be like listening. It's a lot of work,

976
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 1: you know. I think you got to give to get

977
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: you know, you can't. Rachel's like, oh my god, you're

978
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: gonna go You're going over there now, and I'm like,

979
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: you know what he needs me or like I want

980
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: we need to talk, and like no, it's more like

981
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: if he hasn't seen someone for a while, Like Roger

982
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 1: makes a lot of effort with his friends to keep

983
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: his friends for literally almost fifty years friends. Yeah, and

984
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: you know what I would say, even though mine and

985
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: Sarah's friendship in every way is effortless, we make so

986
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: much effort for each other to put each other's feelings

987
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: first in so many ways that that is effort. But

988
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: it's like an effort you want to do. Sure, but

989
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: you guys. I asked that also because I think I

990
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: have incredible girlfriends. But I think at the end of

991
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: the day, between my sister and I've had Roger for

992
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: thirty years and now my kids and my job and

993
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: like whatever. To keep up very deep friendships is a

994
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: lot of work, you know, on it. And if they're

995
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: not here, if it's not you guys, and you're not

996
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: like down the street, and it can't when COVID's over,

997
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: you're not like, let's meet at Georgia's or whatever. It's

998
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: a different thing. But we also really trigger women Women

999
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: trigger women in ways that men do not trigger women.

1000
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 1: And I think we surround ourselves with so many women

1001
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: who are so on the hustle and so this that

1002
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: we have we forget to stop and go, fuck, I'm

1003
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: happy for you, like, how can I help you? Like

1004
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: we all need to support it. And I'm guilty of

1005
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: this too. I'll see somebody where they just you know,

1006
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: they're writing a book and their book is getting published.

1007
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,959
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I should be writing a fucking book,

1008
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: like why am I not? And I'll be triggered by

1009
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: that person. Instead of being like, that's so cool she's

1010
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: writing a book, I'll be like that's a lame title,

1011
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: or I'll think that right, and like we have to

1012
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: retrain our brain. The reason why Jen and I work

1013
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: is because I know that if I say to Jen,

1014
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: you're not going to believe it. Our company was just

1015
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: acquired for a billion dollars, she would be like, oh

1016
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: my god, this is the greatest day ever. Whereas if

1017
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: like I said that to someone else, they might be like,

1018
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: are you fucking kidding me? And it's natural. I'm not

1019
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: saying I'm above it. I've been so triggered by women

1020
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: who are doing what I wish I was doing in life,

1021
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm motivated and I've sort of switched it.

1022
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: And the reason why Jen and I work is because

1023
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 1: I want her to be the most successful person that's

1024
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: ever lived and the best mom and her kids be

1025
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: the best and vice versa, you know. And that's why

1026
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: it's very interesting works and that's what we have to

1027
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: describe for because I see it, I see it all

1028
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: around us. I'm like, Yeah, why are you not happy

1029
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: for her? Yeah? This is what does it say about

1030
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: you that you are not celebrating her victory right now?

1031
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't take away from you. You can still do

1032
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: what you're doing. And there's room for everybody. By the way,

1033
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: I am not on some soapbox. I am Sarah. That's

1034
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: an incredible point because I actually think you just summed

1035
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: it up. And I think that's the issue that I've

1036
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: always had. And I say that to Roger is like

1037
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: I can count on one hand the women that I

1038
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: think truly want the best for me, truly truly want

1039
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: me to succeed and root for me, as opposed to

1040
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: like doing exactly what you just said. Yeah, And I

1041
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: think what happens is that you start to go down

1042
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: that hole of like you know, thinking that, and I

1043
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: think that's a slippery slope too, And I think to

1044
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: your point, and the takeaway from that is in order

1045
00:56:54,400 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: to have a true, deep, effortless, unguarded, unfiltered friendship, you

1046
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: have to genuinely want the best for each other. And

1047
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: I think that applies to marriage as well. That's what

1048
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: I was going to say, is I find again one

1049
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: of the main reasons why Rachel and I are together.

1050
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: You say, well, how do you last for so long

1051
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: for each other? Because we root for each other. And

1052
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: I find even in even in marriages, Oh yeah, there's

1053
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: competitiveness like who's bringing the more money, who's spending more

1054
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: time with the kids, who's doing this, who's doing that?

1055
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: And you're like if you're not one unit, like it's

1056
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: over and for me, like I will go fight to

1057
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: the death for Rachel, Like yeah, like no one can.

1058
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: You know, I can make fun of her because she's mine,

1059
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: of course, right because I'm because I've earned that. But

1060
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: I do not effort her, you know what I mean?

1061
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: And that because it's like she's like that's it and no,

1062
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: but I find them day But what's interesting, right or

1063
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: I but well, it's so interesting, and I'll just bring

1064
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: it back to my own parts of it. Well, we

1065
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: were engaged. I did not feel that way. And I

1066
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: remember the day we got married. It was like this

1067
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: piece of paper, it's like all of a sudden, well

1068
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: it goes from eye to us. It's eye to us,

1069
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, like it was weird. Trigger

1070
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: to me that like from that day on, it was like,

1071
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: it's because you're still a little like before your marriage,

1072
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: You're still a little like I don't know, you're still

1073
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: jockeying you know a little bit, and are also in

1074
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: your tent. You know, you're equal. We were literally in

1075
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: our twenties. No, no, what I'm saying, you're I don't

1076
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: know how to explain it. For me, that was a trigger.

1077
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: As you were talking about triggers here, but for me

1078
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: that was like a wake up, like where are you

1079
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: dinit and this is not this is no. I feel

1080
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: like we are you are you are in us? Yes

1081
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: you are, and I'm sure. So first of all, this

1082
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: has been incredibly fun, and I could talk to you

1083
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: guys for seventeen more hours, but I know you actually

1084
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: have like your life to live in your eighteen hundred jobs. Um, okay,

1085
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: before we go into our last quickie five questions. It's

1086
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: a little bit like the Newlyweds meaning I ask you guys,

1087
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: and you, oh, I'm not good. I fail with I

1088
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: fail when Aaron and I I've done this, I fail

1089
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: every time. They're like, do you even know what? I

1090
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: feel like you'll get it right. For Jen, Well, we'll see.

1091
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: What's the one piece of clothing of of Sarah's or

1092
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: Jen's that you would throw away? Sarah, what would you

1093
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: throw away of Jen's? If anything? Oh? Jen has? Oh? Okay, Well,

1094
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: she's like these fucking like prairie dresses. They're so dumpy,

1095
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, you have a great body. Have a

1096
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: couple of She do a couple of them. But she's

1097
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: got all these flowy ass prairie mom dresses. Fair enough,

1098
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: keep a couple. Keep three d that that cutely wears

1099
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: with converse. I know, I'm over Jen's just like where

1100
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: do I begin? She just I mean, she just posted

1101
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: this picture that's like the cutest outfit ever. These shoes.

1102
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't even know what these running shoes are. I'm like,

1103
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: why why the shoes? Like I actually the shoes your

1104
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: mom wears so way to insult your mom like you're

1105
00:59:54,280 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: also well, you know, yes there are the hookahs. They

1106
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: there no offense to hooka way to take en. I

1107
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: didn't say the name. There's time and a place, great

1108
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: for running, great for walking. Not she doesn't need to

1109
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: wear it with a crop cashmere sweater, favorite curable, adorable

1110
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: cash Maybe this question is hard for you guys because

1111
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: you kind of know everybody. Um, okay, Jen, who's Sarah's

1112
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: celebrity crush? Uh? I feel like she didn't have to

1113
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: be celebrity. It could be like anybody. It could be

1114
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: an athlete, it could be a politician, it could be

1115
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: told Rachel, I've dated. I think Sarah's dated all her

1116
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: celebrity crush, so maybe I agree with there's no one laugh.

1117
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: There's no one laugh. I've just been around the block.

1118
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, which by day Sarah No.

1119
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: But okay, let's be real because that's actually not true. Um,

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01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: who would be? You can be honest, who would be

1121
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: my celebrity crush? Like if I had one today? I'm

1122
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: really being honest that you've dated though, that's as far

1123
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: as I'm gonna go. Okay, I agree with Jen, I

1124
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: agree with Jen. Sarah, Okay, moving right away, Sarah, who's

1125
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: Jen's listen? You know I would say, I here's the thing.

1126
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: I would always say, jay Z Yeah, but he's married.

1127
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: We all know he's married to someone. You know. We

1128
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: like Beyonce. We don't want to We're not trying to

1129
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: take Beyonce's man. I think doctor J is realistic. Doctor

1130
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: Dre is realistic though, because he's single, and that when

1131
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: Jen goes to bed at night, I think she sees

1132
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: herself as missus Dre, doctor Dre. There, doctor Dre. Are

1133
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: you listening? Do we think doctor J will listen to this?

1134
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: For sure? So much? Okay, this one's gonna be fun,

1135
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: all right, this one's gonna be fun, Sarah. If Jen

1136
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: were arrested, what would it be for? Oh? I mean

1137
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: I would say drunk driving, but she doesn't because she

1138
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: she drinks a lot, but she does, but she does it.

1139
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: This is actually the thing. She'll have like two SIPs

1140
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: of wine. She's like, I need to coen uber. I'm like, Jen,

1141
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: you've had two sets of wine? Like, but she's she's

1142
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: she loves a she loves a drink. Um. If she

1143
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: is arrest oh, she might be arrested for like um,

1144
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: like disturbance, like loud like her rap music, maybe like

1145
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: late at night, like we've been cops to my house,

1146
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: you've had park like like that's like wild to get

1147
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: on turning down her music. Oh my god, God, would

1148
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: she be arrested? Sarah be arrested for. That's the thing

1149
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: I know she really is. You know what I'd be

1150
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: arrested for, like like being like a bitch on an

1151
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: airplane or something like in my like coach coach say,

1152
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't fucking touch me. I'm not one hundred

1153
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: per I get so saucy. By the way, like if

1154
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: she ever got pulled over for like a parking ticket,

1155
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: for like a driving ticket or something speeding ticket, that

1156
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: she would literally she would go to jail. I feel like, oh, really,

1157
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm on video. I want to see the because I

1158
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: did not that Sarah would challenge a cop for sure.

1159
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: But guess what. Guess what, we'd bail each other right

1160
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: out two seconds. Bail each other, honey, Next time, try

1161
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: to not have your music at the loudest at four

1162
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: in the morning when children are sleeping, like I would

1163
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,479
Speaker 1: just I'd be not judgmental about it, okay, last two?

1164
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: Uh Sarah? What is Jen's go to karaoke song? Oh?

1165
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: Like blank in Paris or like nine to five? Okay,

1166
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean I've Bubblin and Dublin. Bubblin and Dublin like

1167
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: get anything? And she do you want to wrap for us?

1168
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: Should we take it out on you? Nope, Nope, We're

1169
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: not gonna wrap. If I had a bar Grida, I

1170
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: would definitely we should note that. Drinks in hand? Okay? Yes? Um? Jen?

1171
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,959
Speaker 1: What's Sarah's? Oh, Sarah always finds like my latest love

1172
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: ballad like the she like blasts and she's like, did

1173
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: you hear? It'd be like Heart of Glass or something.

1174
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: It would be Daughter of Sarah of David Jartarts rock set,

1175
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: like an old I love a ballot. I love have

1176
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: one Republic ballot forget it. No love a ballot, Go

1177
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston power ballot, Bryan Adams. Okay, I know you're

1178
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: both gonna get because it's such an important concept for

1179
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: both of you, a subject for both of you. Uh, Jen,

1180
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: what would Sarah's last meal be? I know this you do?

1181
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my last meal? I would say Mexican? Right, Yeah?

1182
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean I was gonna say, like Mexican. It like

1183
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: a really good Mexican meal, oilean. You know she loves

1184
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: she loves pizza. Also, Sarah's the reason that I know

1185
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 1: that my first time I ever had Mexican food between it. Yes,

1186
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: oh yes, that's best, so good. Yes, I made her

1187
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: drive me there four times a week. When I was

1188
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: pre joking, she'd be like again, I'm like, I have

1189
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: to Okay, Sarah, what would Jen's last meal be? Listen,

1190
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: she loves Mexican too, but she like probably sushi Park

1191
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: love sushi sushi, which is disgusting, but she loves Sarah

1192
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: and I can't. I can't now with you, Sarah, I'm

1193
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: the only one. Nope. Um okay. By the way, you

1194
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: guys were amazing at that, so you can get married now.

1195
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: By the way, i'd have a really nice diamond. I

1196
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: would give you a great ring. By the way, Yes,

1197
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: I love you both so much, so much. I love you,

1198
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: love you, I love you. Okay. So Jen and Sarah, well,

1199
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it was kind of cool for me to

1200
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: have two of my best friends as my role models

1201
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: for best friends and then listen to kind of the

1202
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: magic of their friendship and when you look at them,

1203
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: it's like they can't breathe without each other. But let's listen.

1204
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: The idea is that they're best friends, right, and they

1205
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: were on our show to talk about relationship of best friends.

1206
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: And I think the parallel between best friends and business

1207
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: partners and best friends and you know, husband and wife

1208
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: is very similar. They sort of rely on each other

1209
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: for different parts of the relationship and there's a certain

1210
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: sort of rooting for each other, there's a safe zone.

1211
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: It's it's not that dissimilar to you know, actual you know,

1212
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: I totally agree if you will for people out there

1213
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: who struggle with friendships, sometimes female struggle with female friendships,

1214
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: any friendships, you know, And I think for me, while

1215
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: I love them both so much, just watching them as

1216
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: best friends, it's it's it's pretty amazing to watch. And

1217
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: I think if anyone out there is lucky enough to

1218
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: have that outside of a sibling connection with somebody, it's

1219
01:06:55,080 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. We always want to leave you with a

1220
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: little highlight and low light from our week, because let's

1221
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: face it, we all have highs and lows of each week.

1222
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: In relationships. The bad does come with the good. So

1223
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: this is our time to mention a little bit of

1224
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: both of those things. My highlight was that I got

1225
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: my second vaccine, my second fiser vaccine, So I feel

1226
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: just like a big weight lifted off my shoulders because

1227
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: I have been really in hiding since COVID, very strictly.

1228
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: And the low light would be that I was aching

1229
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: miserable for like twenty four hours, but I didn't really care,

1230
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: but it still sucked in the moment, but I knew

1231
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: there was a means to the end. So I mean

1232
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: the highs that I got the vaccine, and the low

1233
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: is that I was down for the count, and as

1234
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: a mom and a CEO, it's a little hard to

1235
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: be down for the count just saying babe, what's yours.

1236
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: I think my highlight is actually how nice the boys

1237
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: are doing in their schoolwork. The fact that little Kai

1238
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: Kai can read so well. He's just a little thing

1239
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: of all time when he sits at the morning breakfast

1240
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: table and he reads this chapter in his book like

1241
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: a good boy, And that Skyler got a ninety five

1242
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: and then one hundred one math. The fact that he

1243
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: couldn't really do math and that he was so scared

1244
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: of it and now he really excels at it. Is amazing.

1245
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 1: And one other highlight I would like to add about

1246
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:22,520
Speaker 1: Skyler is that he made me watch him catch footballs

1247
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: outside and he could literally catch footballs really well, and

1248
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: I was really proud of him. Did you teach him

1249
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: how to catch the football? No? Okay, just checking the coach?

1250
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: Did teach him teach him how to shoot? Who? No? Okay,

1251
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: just checking, just checking. You're a good spectator, though, honey,

1252
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: And you bring great food. Well that's what they call

1253
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 1: it spectator sport, of course. Okay, low light? I don't know, Rachel.

1254
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm in a pretty good mood. The only low light

1255
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 1: that I would have is the fact that I'm still

1256
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: not getting enough love from you. Might love That is

1257
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 1: a little light. It's a console all light. I'll take

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