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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place

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Speaker 1: your bets. It is me, Joey Pit joe Pisapia, and

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Speaker 1: this is BP NFL. It's week eighteen. We're gonna finish strong.

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Speaker 1: And the thing to know about this week is a

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Speaker 1: you know, we're just not into tackling. It's week eighteen.

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Speaker 1: We've got plane tickets already booked for the offseason. Some

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Speaker 1: do his deep dive on some of those games as well.

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Speaker 1: We've got Saturday Football, We've got Sunday Football, and then

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Speaker 1: after that we're gonna jump into the playoffs. So if

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Speaker 1: have some fun doing it. Eric saon was a fun

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Speaker 1: weekend of wagering. I got my overs on Bucky Irving

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Speaker 1: and Mike Evans and a few of the things that

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Speaker 1: I was very much in on, and our Patriots right

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Speaker 1: now have the number one pick, which is great. I

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Speaker 1: want them to trade that pick for a boatload of

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Speaker 1: other picks and hopefully remake the organization. But I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they'll screw something up on the way. Probably we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens. But the drip drip drip of week seventeen

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Speaker 1: is just about dripped out. So Week eighteen, I cannot

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Speaker 1: wait for you to be here, And let's start with

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore eleven and five.

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Speaker 1: They are at home. Get ready for this, Andrew, seventeen

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Speaker 1: and a half. That is the number. I know you

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Speaker 1: hate the big numbers. This is the biggest one we've

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Speaker 1: seen all season long. Forty two is the total Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Brown's looking for the upset, probably not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: So the plus one thousand money line, cool beings, whatever,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. So, Andrew Erickson, I know

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Speaker 1: you've laughed at me, but a lot of times this

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Speaker 1: year in these conversations, I have taken these fourteens, these

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Speaker 1: thirteen and a half. I've done this, and I've done

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Speaker 1: it successfully all year. I'm kind of tempted by the

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Speaker 1: seventeen and a half. I think they can handle it.

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Speaker 1: I think Baltimore is going to be okay, but I

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Speaker 1: know you will probably advise me to the other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, this is a divisional game and this

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Speaker 2: is where weird stuff has. It's week eighteen, like you said,

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Speaker 2: so are the the Ravens are really going to try

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Speaker 2: to I mean, the Browns did beat the Ravens already,

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Speaker 2: up the score a little bit, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean this, I think there's better ways that you

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Speaker 2: Ravens against the Cleveland Browns. Whoever, I mean, the Browns

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Speaker 2: are trying to win again. If I could pick a side,

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not taking the Browns. But it is

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Speaker 2: a very very big number. So maybe the over if

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Speaker 2: anything drew for the Ravens offensive score points, maybe the

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Speaker 2: but it probably game. I'm going to uh yeah, that

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Speaker 1: Interesting approach too, because like, what what's your team total

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Speaker 2: I'm like, for the Ravens, it's got to be over

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Speaker 2: at thirty. Yeah, and then I'm not sure what I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure what the juice is.

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Speaker 1: Well, but but to your point, let's say thirty one.

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Speaker 1: All we need is, you know, about ten or so

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Speaker 1: forty two and the other thing to keep in mind too,

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Speaker 1: this is a perfect week for setting the custom line

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Speaker 1: alerts if you have the betting Pros app, which you

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Speaker 1: should because Andrew and I were talking before the show,

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of changes here. Who's gonna

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Speaker 1: be playing other players, who's not playing anybody, Who's gonna

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Speaker 1: for the custom line alerts. So if you have games

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow playing his best football last Saturday was a

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow got hurt too. This team doesn't have quitting it.

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, are three point favorites on the

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Speaker 1: plus one thirty for the Pittsburgh Steelers here. Look, Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengals have nothing to lose. I feel like all of

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Speaker 1: what is your take on this game? In Week eight?

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Speaker 2: Team Andrew Well It's interesting because the Steelers are not

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Speaker 2: they're not playing they're already in the playoffs. It's just

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Speaker 2: a matter of like who's going to take down the division. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Steelers are just going to be a wildcard team playing

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Speaker 1: They need momentum. Yeah, none of it. Yeah, I've played

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Speaker 1: bad football two weeks in a row. They got their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're on a three game losing streak. Do they

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the next one here, Chicago

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Speaker 1: traveling to Green Bay. Minus nine is the number for

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Speaker 1: this one. Forty and a half is the total. Just

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Speaker 1: a recap too. Sorry the Pittsburg we were so we

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Speaker 1: were so into in case I didn't say it, Forty

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Speaker 1: plus one thirty for the Steelers on the money line.

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Speaker 2: I mean, every game that the Bengals play, it seems

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Speaker 1: now you get the Chicago Bears, who are four and twelve.

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Speaker 1: Forty and a half is the number green Bay at

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Speaker 1: home nine point favorites in this one plus three ten

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Speaker 2: So they can only be the six or seven seed,

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Speaker 2: So to me, they can't change anything. That's why I

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Speaker 2: Get they're playing on the road, but this the Bears

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Speaker 2: the second half of games. So you can get it

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Speaker 2: Like I think that this line is based on O.

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Speaker 2: and I'm not so sure like that's going to be

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Speaker 2: like plus nine and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's get another big spread here. You got

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons at home eight and eight and the

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Speaker 1: spread is eight too, so eight point favorites at home

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Jacksonville, Indianapolis. The Colts are

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Speaker 1: Right, let's take a look at the Philadelphia Eagles. So

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Speaker 2: I just feel like, hey, I think the Giants are

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Speaker 2: where he had an opportunity in one of these games

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Speaker 2: earlier this year to break a bunch of Eagles records

434
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Speaker 2: and he said, no, coach, like le, let's give it

435
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Speaker 2: was my individual.

436
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Speaker 1: Yeah, to at most yards in a game.

437
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let the young Bucks eat. Look I get that again.

438
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Speaker 2: I think that rushing for two thousand yards in the

439
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Speaker 2: sixteen game season is like was the goal here? Like

440
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Speaker 2: he hit that and now he joins that. But if

441
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Speaker 2: he breaks Eric Dickerson's record in seventeen games, like he

442
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Speaker 2: broke it in more, he played more games, so like, yeah,

443
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Speaker 2: he was able to break the great So I don't

444
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Speaker 2: think the record holds as much weight because it's an

445
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Speaker 2: extra game and Eric Eric Dickerson even recognize as like

446
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Speaker 2: hey did in seventeen games I did in sixteen, like

447
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Speaker 2: mine is more impressive than Sakwon Barkley.

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Speaker 1: Correct, So he also did a narrow football where guys

449
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Speaker 1: would beat the crap of Eric Jeckison.

450
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Speaker 2: So I think it makes so much sense, like Segwon

451
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Speaker 2: Barkley didn't go to Philly to break the Rushmaker, he

452
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Speaker 2: went to win a Super Bowl, like, and now he

453
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Speaker 2: finally gets to win or have the potential chains to

454
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Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. Nick Sirianni shouldn't even ask Saquon

455
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Speaker 2: if he wants the record. She'd be like no, like,

456
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Speaker 2: you're not playing like we're trying to win here, And

457
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Speaker 2: I bet that Saquon would agree with him and be like, yes,

458
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Speaker 2: I came here to win, not to break the Russian record. Again,

459
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Speaker 2: maybe the Giants can do a solid and she's like, hey,

460
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Speaker 2: like just rush for one hundred yards, we won't stop you.

461
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Speaker 2: I don't know, and I guess too, like this thing too,

462
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Speaker 2: like do you think the Giants would like to play

463
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Speaker 2: spoiler against Saquon and be like no, like we're not

464
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Speaker 2: gonna let him rush for that about of yards against this.

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Speaker 1: So we think the Giants will want to stop winning

466
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Speaker 1: football games because they are putting themselves back considerably like

467
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Speaker 1: they are if they if they win again, they're going

468
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Speaker 1: to be right in that like what top ten like

469
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Speaker 1: towards the end of that ten, that's gonna be a

470
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Speaker 1: brutal spot for them because they're not going to get

471
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Speaker 1: a quarterback, so they're looking at retreads. They're looking at

472
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Speaker 1: bringing other guys in and a new coach, except the

473
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Speaker 1: whole thing is going to be yikes, giant yikes going

474
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Speaker 1: on there for sure. Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots. The

475
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills just three point favorites in this one against

476
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Speaker 1: New England because the anticipation is the Buffalo Bills are

477
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Speaker 1: going to sit on their haunches. Forty and a half

478
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Speaker 1: is the number plus one thirty. Look, I'll be honest

479
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Speaker 1: with you, I think Buffalocus still win this game even

480
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Speaker 1: within your bisky playing. I'll be honest with you, I

481
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 1: think that's where they are. Because I don't think we're

482
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Speaker 1: gonna see Drake mayon this game. Either. So not being said,

483
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Speaker 1: the battle of backup quarterbacks, give me the team that's

484
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Speaker 1: just floundering. They got their asses handed to them this

485
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Speaker 1: weekend on Saturday by a good Chargers team don't make

486
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Speaker 1: no mistake about it. But I think what got exposed

487
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,400
Speaker 1: there is the thing that continues to be exposed every

488
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Speaker 1: single week with the Patriots is the preparation is poor,

489
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,400
Speaker 1: the defensive effort is worse. And for a defensive minute coach,

490
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Speaker 1: I know it's his first year as a head coach,

491
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Speaker 1: and you want to give people grace, I don't know, man,

492
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Speaker 1: I feel like these back to back blowouts here, which

493
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Speaker 1: I think you might still get an ass kicking here

494
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Speaker 1: from the Buffalo Bills. It could end up with Drod

495
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Speaker 1: Meyo being a one and done coach, which is not

496
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Speaker 1: something the Patriots I think want to do, but something

497
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Speaker 1: where they might have their back against the wall where

498
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Speaker 1: Robert Kraft gave the loyalty test there to girod Mayo,

499
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Speaker 1: I told you i'd give you this job. I gave

500
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Speaker 1: you this job. But Mike Rabel is still s outing

501
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Speaker 1: out there, and I think Mike Rabel is just more

502
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Speaker 1: accomplished coach at this point that they might want to

503
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Speaker 1: pivot to.

504
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Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I mean, that's the thing. If Brable

505
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Speaker 2: wasn't a factor, I think that'd be I would be

506
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Speaker 2: cool with bringing Mayo back.

507
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Speaker 1: I would not that specific guy because of history has

508
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Speaker 1: with this organization.

509
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not like, look, Mayo had the entire

510
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Speaker 2: season and it's not like, oh, well he didn't have

511
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Speaker 2: a quarterbacks like no, well you did, and you didn't

512
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Speaker 2: help him whatsoever. Like so and you even you have

513
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Speaker 2: to also consider, like what is Mayo's impact on Drake

514
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Speaker 2: may anyway? Like again, like I think the best decion

515
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Speaker 2: actually made was just putting may in like a lot

516
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Speaker 2: earlier than most people. And like even myself anticipated, if anything,

517
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Speaker 2: that probably bought him more time because he put Drake

518
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Speaker 2: may in earlier then a lot of people would have

519
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 2: would have liked to have seen. So, I mean, the

520
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 2: defense is just an absolutely train wreck, and that's really

521
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Speaker 2: supposed to be his calling cards. So I think that's

522
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Speaker 2: going to hurt him. I think for this game. This game,

523
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Speaker 2: to me, I'm going to be attending this game, and

524
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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be seventy three seventy three

525
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 2: ball games. So I'm gonna take the under.

526
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Speaker 1: You you really know how to pick them, boy, You

527
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: really pick somebody's barn burner contests to end up at

528
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: let's go to Tampa. Who can control their own destiny

529
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Speaker 1: They're nine to seven. Big win for them. This past weekend,

530
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Speaker 1: they're gonna take on the New Orleans Saints or whatever's

531
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Speaker 1: left of the New Orleans Saints. The number here is

532
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Speaker 1: enormous to fourteen and a half. Here the Tampa Bay

533
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Speaker 1: Buccaneers our favorites. Forty three and a half is the

534
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Speaker 1: total plus seven hundred for an upset from New Orleans.

535
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Speaker 1: New Orleans is toast. New Orleans is done. Fourteen and

536
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Speaker 1: a half is a good size number. It's just a

537
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Speaker 1: matter of I feel like there's gonna be some sort

538
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Speaker 1: of pride from the Saints side, But at the same time,

539
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Speaker 1: I just don't know if they have the man power

540
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Speaker 1: for that pride, you know what I mean. Like they're

541
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Speaker 1: so injured, it's on the road, like all this stuff.

542
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Speaker 1: It's like, I think the Rizzler's done a good job

543
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Speaker 1: here trying to get this team to give everything they

544
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Speaker 1: have effort wise. I just don't think they have enough

545
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Speaker 1: left in the tank. Fourteen and a half is a

546
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Speaker 1: large number. Of that being said, so where would you

547
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Speaker 1: go with this one at all?

548
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Speaker 2: Yeah? This one is probably another I just don't like

549
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Speaker 2: these maybe the same way, maybe these massive spreads. I

550
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: just don't see. It's like, because you get Tampa Bay

551
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: could dominate the entire game, and then Spencer Rally gets

552
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: like some garbage touchdown and then oh it'll cover and

553
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 2: then you're just like why, like why why did I

554
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: That's exactly how I felt what we were talking about

555
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Speaker 2: this this next team here, New York Jets soon to

556
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Speaker 2: be But we'll save that conversation.

557
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll save that one, all right. Let's get to

558
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans and Tennessee Titans. Here. Houston's nine and seven.

559
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Speaker 1: The Titans are three and thirteen. They're at home, they

560
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Speaker 1: are four and a half point favorites. So we're looking

561
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Speaker 1: at this line right now. Thirty six and a half

562
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Speaker 1: is the total plus one seventy. Again for Houston, they

563
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Speaker 1: are pretty much locked into their spot here. They are

564
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Speaker 1: not really going to change all that much. So Houston Texans,

565
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Speaker 1: I think, from a pride standpoint, would like to put

566
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Speaker 1: some better football on the board after last week, But

567
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: the line's telling us that this one is going to

568
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Speaker 1: be Houston just phoning it in.

569
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Speaker 2: Yeah, That's why I'm very I'm interested why this line

570
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Speaker 2: is the way it is, because if this again, Vegas

571
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Speaker 2: makes these lines as sharp as they can be, right,

572
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Speaker 2: And I haven't seen any like concrete information about oh

573
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: well they're not gonna start anybody, but clear that's what

574
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: Vegas is telling us. The Titans have been the worst

575
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Speaker 2: team against the spread. I think, like ever so this

576
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: is this is telling, Like when they're favored by four

577
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: and a half points, like that is telling. Somebody's telling

578
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Speaker 2: the Vegas Hey, like Shroud's not gonna play in this game,

579
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Speaker 2: or at least that's what my understanding. But Stroud after

580
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 2: the game on Christmas talked about how like winning double

581
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: digit games is like important to them, like they want

582
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Speaker 2: to finish with double digit wins. And I mean they

583
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: played so bad, Like how can you just backdoory way

584
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Speaker 2: into the playoffs after playing that type of football against

585
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Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens where you got a safety, like your

586
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: office didn't even score a single point. I think that

587
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: Dimiko Ryans should get these guys going. So I actually

588
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: like taking some value on the Texans. And again, if

589
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Speaker 2: I if it gets blows up in my face, I

590
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: mean it's the Tennessee Titans that has that has to

591
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Speaker 2: beat me, the team that has literally never covered the

592
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Speaker 2: spread at the worst rate. Ever, so that's kind of

593
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Speaker 2: how I looking at this game. I'll take the Texans.

594
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,959
Speaker 2: I think, what plus four and a half, I can

595
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Speaker 2: get them four and a half. I mean, who's the

596
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: backup in Houston. It's not a man. His name is Escaping,

597
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: but he's played, he's played NFL game before. So yeah,

598
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: I will take the Texans here against the Titans, who

599
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: can't really couple of spread against anybody.

600
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Speaker 1: Texans' depth chart, let's take a look here. Backup quarterback

601
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Speaker 1: right now for them is Davis Mills.

602
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mills, Yeah, he's fine, he's fine, he's fine.

603
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: We love Davis Mills here, big fans of Davis. All right,

604
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: let's get the San Francisco Arizona Arizona petering out the

605
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Speaker 1: paper Tiger that I always knew they would be. I

606
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: could not believe what people were like, Yeah, Arizona's gonna be. No,

607
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not gonna win that division and they're

608
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: not even gonna be close to stiffen it. They're seven

609
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: and nine San Francisco six and nine they played tonight.

610
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: This is practically a pick them right now. Arizona plus

611
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Speaker 1: one at home, you're getting minus one San Francisco.

612
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: On the road.

613
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Speaker 1: Forty six and a half is the total I'm betting

614
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Speaker 1: pros and then minus one fifteen on the money line

615
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: for San fran minus one o five MVP. Look, you're

616
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Speaker 1: trying to go out here with some pride, and I

617
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Speaker 1: think the forty nine ers have more pride than the

618
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. The body language of Kyler Murray is infuriating

619
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Speaker 1: to me. He looks like a guy who's really good

620
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: at football, who is doing it as his job, but

621
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Speaker 1: does not want to be there, and that I just

622
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: can't seem to get past. And every year it seems

623
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Speaker 1: to grow and it makes me more frustrated watching him

624
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: because he is so talented, but at the same time,

625
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: it just feels like he does not want to be

626
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: on the field executing these things, and just I don't know,

627
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: it just does not compute to me. The leadership, all

628
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: that stuff. And for San Franz, look a really disappointing season.

629
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Speaker 1: Do you want to end it with a W? I

630
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: think they do, so if anything's going to run right

631
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: over to the San Francisco side of this game and

632
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Speaker 1: hope for the best. That's my pick in this pick them.

633
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Speaker 1: Do you have a pick in this pick them? What's

634
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: your dog in this fight?

635
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: If any game total unders, that's because usually what happens

636
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: is when you're two teams that have just been disappointing

637
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: all year long. I mean they have nothing. Both both

638
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: teams have nothing to play for. Yes, Like you could

639
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: argue like, well, their defense don't care. Well, I don't

640
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 2: know how much their quarterbacks care? Like maybe do they

641
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: shut down Rock Berdy? Like did that forty nine er

642
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: shut down some of these guys who are playing through

643
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: injuries like Karl Williams, he's not coming back.

644
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Speaker 1: What do I feel like?

645
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: Like, why are we gonna get points here? We know

646
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: Arizona can barely score points with their starters, So I

647
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Speaker 2: like the the.

648
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: Well tray Big Bride scored points, you'll finally have Yeah, Yes, of.

649
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: Course, of course I did. Yes, very happy, one of

650
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: the few things I got right on.

651
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: And there you go, all right. Kansas City Denver, Kansas

652
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: City fifteen to one, taken on the Denver Broncos. So

653
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: this is tricky here, you know, I feel like the

654
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: Kansas Chiefs are just starting to put it together. Homes

655
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: coming up a three hundred yard game. Kansas City, though,

656
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: of course, is nine and a half point underdogs on

657
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: the road to Denver's. The anticipation here Vegas is telling

658
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: us that the Chiefs are like, Nope, we're good. We're

659
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: gonna take a couple of weeks off and just get healthy.

660
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: I always worried about that though, because you have multiple

661
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: weeks off, you feel you come off flat. I know

662
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: you've seen it. I've seen it, you know with teams

663
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: in the past. Thirty nine is the total for this

664
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: game plus three ninety, So this is an opportunity here

665
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: to kick a division opponent to the curb. But at

666
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: the same time, I think you would rather see Denver

667
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: in this playoff mix than you would see Joe Burrow.

668
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: That's that's my feeling. So I think it makes sense

669
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: if you are doing the gamesmanship here for Andy Reiding Company,

670
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: is you know, give me Bo Nicks in a playoff game.

671
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: Last team I want to see is the Bengals come

672
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: in with Amar Chase and Joe Burrow because you know

673
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: they're confident because they've beatn you in your building before.

674
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: So I do anticipate this being like one of these

675
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: Chiefs phone it in kind of games and sitting starters

676
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. But it is a little

677
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: disappointing at the end of the day.

678
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say though, you have to pay attention

679
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: to that Steelers Bengals game, right because if the Steelers win,

680
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: then the Bengals are already out of postseason everything, so

681
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: then it doesn't matter necessarily. So then in that case,

682
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: like the Chiefs, like, hey, let's knock out the Broncos, Like,

683
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: who do you think the Chiefs rather play the Broncos

684
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 2: or the Dolphins? Like, because like that's where yes they would. Again,

685
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: there's not being said, there's no way the Dolphins is not?

686
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: Ok. Sorry, ahead is your anticipation that the Cincinnati Bengals

687
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: win that game on Saturday?

688
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Well, I like to I like the Steelers, like against

689
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 2: the spread, so i'd you like the Steelers close enough

690
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: against it? It's close enough, like I mean Steelers at home.

691
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: It's it wouldn't like shock the world if the Steelers

692
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: beat the Bengals playing at home, Like that's not again,

693
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, his record against the AFC North is so

694
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: much worse than against every other opponent, Like good, that's

695
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: that's what That's what I mean. So like, yeah, I

696
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: know he rolls against other non AFC North teams, but

697
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a winning record against AFC North, Like

698
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: there's a reason why, so I think the Steelers can

699
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: throw him fits. So I think for this one, it's like,

700
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: if Cincinnati's still live, I'm just gonna put Broncos money

701
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: on on basically everything, because I don't think the Chiefs

702
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: are gonna win. They're gonna try to lose. Like I

703
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: just don't imagine where they're like, oh, we need to

704
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: beat the Broncos so that the Bengals can get it.

705
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: That makes if they won't say that, but that makes

706
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: zero sense to me logically that they would do that.

707
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: But in the reversal, if Cincinnati loses the Steelers win

708
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: on Saturday, then I think that you could get a

709
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: little bit more upbeat from the Chiefs, where hey, let's

710
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: knock out the Bronx again. The Broncos almost beat the

711
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: Chiefs at home this year. Will take the Dolphins, like

712
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: we'll take the Dolphins come into our building.

713
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: I agree, And nine and a half year with the

714
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs is interesting then early if that's if that is

715
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: indeed the mindset there, or it might pivot depending on

716
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: what happened Saturday. Speaking of the Dolphins eight and eight

717
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: taking on the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers set a

718
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: record most sacks ever as a quarterback. So there you go,

719
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: finally beat Tom Brady and something manon. Good for you.

720
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: Minus two and a half. Here are the Miami Dolphins

721
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: against the Jets on the road. Forty and a half

722
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: is the number. Plus one twenty now two. It wasn't

723
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: in last week. We hope too is in this week.

724
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: If not, it could get a little rough here. However,

725
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: the Jets once again continue to find ways to lose

726
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: football games.

727
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me the Dolphins. I think he was gonna

728
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: play like that. They said he was close last week,

729
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: and again they have to win this game top keep

730
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: their playoff hopes alive. So yeah, look the Jets. Man,

731
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: it's just I mean, Aaron Rodgers pulling himself from the

732
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: same game, like like not even the coach aside.

733
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: Like the Aaron Rodgers was a penalty there too, when

734
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: he was pushing the guy after the pick.

735
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it just it's a summerization of the entire season.

736
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: Just be like he goes up to the old breakers, like, yeah, man,

737
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: like if you think about putting tyrod in, looks up

738
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: it's forty to nothing, and of course I have the

739
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: under in that game. I'm thinking this, Oh, this is

740
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: the best bet of the week, the under, and.

741
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: Of course certainly was for the first three quarters that

742
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: game and then the last like five minutes that third

743
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: quarter just exploded for the rest of it because I

744
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: was we had company over him doing things with the

745
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: holiday where that game, like we got red zone on

746
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: and going back and forth, and then I look up

747
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: again and it's forty to eight. What did I miss?

748
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: What happened?

749
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like nine to nothing, like the going to

750
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: the first half and the third chorus. I'm like, this

751
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: is great, this is my best bet, like under forty

752
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: six and a half points. The Jets play slow, and

753
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: then you have this like Tyrrell Shaver's guy for the

754
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: buff of them Bills, just like rip off this like

755
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: eighty yard touchdown leads the Bills and receiving yards on

756
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 2: his first cat kill. Yeah. And Aaron Rodgers the all

757
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: time sack leader because he doesn't throw interceptions because he

758
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: just takes sax. So Caleb Williams, right, that's the record.

759
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: Cale Willams is going for the all time.

760
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: Sack Kil's right on his heels and it's a good start. Certainly,

761
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: he is the only guys ahead of him ever in

762
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: a single season are David Carr Twite with the Texans

763
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: the word expansion team at the time, and Randall Cunningham.

764
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: Fun fact, that's the only guys ahead of Caleb Williams.

765
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Records were made to be broken. Kleb, go get him. Seattle,

766
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. The Rams are at home plus three here

767
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: Seattle minus three favors thirty nine a half is the

768
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: total plus one thirty five. So any implications from this

769
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: one that matter for this line, I.

770
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: Want all the Seattle action. The Rams have the NFC

771
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: West locked up, so they were able to get it

772
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: based on some of the things that happened on Sunday

773
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: with like strength of opponent. Seattle is not is out

774
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: of the playoffs. So the Seattle has a couple of incentives,

775
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: like Guno Smith has a couple passing yard stuff, so

776
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: he's gonna play and like be out there, like throw

777
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: the ball so you can get you know, extra money.

778
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: And we've seen this Rams team in the preseason when

779
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: they don't play their starters, like they get destroyed. Yeah,

780
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: it's pretty they get destroyed and I don't think McVay

781
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: is going to care at all what this game turns into.

782
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: He's like, my, my odds of winning playoff games are

783
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: all based on how healthy is Cup, how healthy is Nikua,

784
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: how healthy is Stafford, Like that's all he cares about.

785
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: So I think that the Rams just don't care about

786
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: this game. And I would bet Seattle up to like

787
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: not and a half here, Like, I think that's yeah,

788
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: it was gonna roll because I don't think the Rams

789
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: are gonna care.

790
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: So that Steelers game could also impact the Chargers home

791
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: field advantage in the first round of the playoffs. So

792
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: they take on the Raiders this coming week eighteen minus

793
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: five and a half point favorites forty one is the

794
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: total plus one ninety five. Again, maybe this could change

795
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: depending on what happens with Pittsburgh. Maybe they take the

796
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: foot off the gas. But that's not exactly the Harball way,

797
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: is it.

798
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of how I thought about it more

799
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: At first, I was like, man, like, the Chargers really

800
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: don't have a ton to play for. Again, they're going

801
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: to be a lower seeded team, But like you said,

802
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: like a little bit of you know, home field advantage

803
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: in the playoffs and Harbaugh that's not his that's not

804
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: his style. Like, he's not gonna sick. I mean, they

805
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: got they got the they got the wrestling in the

806
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: fourth quarter against the Patriots, right, So his guys are

807
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: all that's true.

808
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: They're well rested already.

809
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: His guys are all rested up, and they're playing a

810
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: divisional opponent. I think that he wants to, like, hey,

811
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: let's end the season on a high note. Let's get

812
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: up big and then rest Justin Herbert in the second half.

813
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: But I think charge this is probably a line I

814
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: would stay away from, though, because we don't know how

815
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: much the Chargers needed something to win by. Obviously, the

816
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: Raiders are trying to play as hard as I can

817
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: for Antonio Piers Again, this is probably gonna be his

818
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: last game as the Raiders coach, and they're gonna get

819
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: brock Bowers as many records as I humanly possibly can.

820
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: So whatt a season, A lot of season for brock Bowers.

821
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: Incredible start to a career. Last but certainly not least

822
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: the one everybody wants to see. Minnesota Detroit. This one

823
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: is for all of the uh the Marble, the ships

824
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: here at the Marble this is what it is, So

825
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: here you go. So minus three Detroit at home favorites

826
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: fifty two and a half is the total plus one

827
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: twenty five. Now, Andrew, I know you love this field

828
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: for overs. Fifty two and a half is a big number.

829
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: Are you still taking the over here?

830
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

831
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: I just it's just zero zero chill from ericson.

832
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not even like it's a fifty to

833
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: fifty proposition because it's not like games hit this number

834
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: like seventy five percent of the time in Detroit. So again,

835
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: with these two teams playing at the levels that they're

836
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: playing at, I don't see how there's not gonna be

837
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: points in this game.

838
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: So it is.

839
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: It has been a one of the best bets I've

840
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: made all year long, is just betting over on the

841
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: Lions game that it's worked out more often than not.

842
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: So I see no way, especially with two teams just

843
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: like closely great teams both and this game went down

844
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 2: to the wire last time these teams played. I believe

845
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: it was like a two point game or three point game.

846
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 2: And I think, interestingly, Joe is before we wrap up here,

847
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: like from a future standpoint, again, this is gonna affect

848
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: so much with one team's gonna be the number one

849
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: seed in the NFC with like the clear pathway to

850
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, and the other one's gonna fall to five.

851
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: So is this a time like you take futures on

852
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: Vikings and Lions like to get the best value because

853
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: one of them is gonna plumb it the other one

854
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: is going to skyrocket? Is it just hey, the Vikings

855
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: get the upset and then I'm cruising here with Minnesota

856
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: as the number one seed with my I don't know,

857
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: ten to one ticket for them to win the super Bowl.

858
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what the odds are, but kind of.

859
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl I gotta say, you know, it's something I

860
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: did not have on the Bengal card going into this year.

861
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: I did not. I would also say that as somebody

862
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: who has a lot of shares early preseason of Kansas

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Speaker 1: City and Detroit and then hedged a little bit with

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Speaker 1: Buffalo because they seem to be a little bit more

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Speaker 1: of that team of destiny lately, just everything just breaks

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Speaker 1: their way and that happens sometimes. Minnesota, you's still getting

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Speaker 1: really good value win the super Bowl plus eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the hedge. I think you just go

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00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: right for the Super Bowl one, and you hope that

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Speaker 1: they actually get all the way there and then they

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Speaker 1: do have a good home field advantage in that building.

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00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: The most heartwarming favorite moment for me of Week seventeen

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00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: was Sam Donald getting hoisted up on everybody's shoulders. And

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00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: after that game, it was great to see that guy's

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00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: been through a lot. He was he went from seeing

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00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: Ghost to New York to now being a monster, and

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00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: I think that that is just really cool to see

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00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: at this stage of his career. And he's still got

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00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: a lot of future left. And I think the Vikings

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00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: are in an interesting spot next year. I would be

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00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: looking to see, what, you know, not a great quarterback class.

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00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: Somebody get a give you a ton of draft picks

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00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: for JJ McCarthy, and you could continue to build around

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00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and be good now and be a Super

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00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: Bowl contender now, because even switched to the young kid,

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00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: you just don't know what you're gonna get. I like McCarthy,

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00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: but you just it's unknown. I know what I'm getting

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00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: with Donald right now, and it looks like a team

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00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: that you know, as you said, could win a Super Bowl.

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00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean I don't

891
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: mind the idea of taking keeping both guys, right, Like,

892
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: you signed darn too a young three or four year deal.

893
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: McCarthy's young, and he's one of the other quarterbacks. And

894
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: he's also coming off like this major knee injury, right, Like,

895
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: that's the other thing that kind of throws the whole thing.

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00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: We don't know how healthy is And I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the odds are when it comes to think about

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Speaker 2: this quarterback class, right, I would say, for the most part,

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00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: most of the first round picks like look like hits

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00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: for the most part. Is that me, mcarthy's going to

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00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: be hit too. Where they're all going to be hits

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00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: in the first round, Like, what are the odds of that?

903
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: So is macarthy even going to be a hit? Necessarily

904
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: based on May's a hit? Daniels is a hit, boon

905
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: Nick looks a good pick. Williams. I think that he's

906
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: going to turn things around when they get the right coaching.

907
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: Penni's still kind of you know, yeah, if they get

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00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: the right coaching. So but overall, like I wouldn't say

909
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: any of these rookies like, oh my god, the absolute

910
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: disaster of a season, even though I think Caleb Williams

911
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: versus expectations kind of be put into that category. I'd

912
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: say most of them exceeded expectations.

913
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: Far and above. Daniels and Nicks especially just incredible.

914
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, if anything else, part of the issue with Williams

915
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: is because his expectations or just probably not realistic like

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00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: they were.

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00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: Just like so hi, and you don't see progress. That's

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00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: the problem. You're not seeing any progress. The one thing

919
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: you want to see is yeah, losses, Okay, it's gonna happen,

920
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: Rooie quarterbacks. But are you seeing progress? And then the

921
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: answer is no? Right now?

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00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: I would love to, uh, it would be an NFC

923
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: championship game for the Ages, Baker Mayfield, for Sam Darnold.

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00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm believing on that. I'm getting out on that.

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Speaker 1: Download the BP app, subscribe to the pod revir podcast,

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Speaker 1: and subscribe to the YouTube channel as well. That'll do

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Speaker 1: it for us. But the story of the game goes on.

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Speaker 1: For Andrew Ericson, I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time,

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Speaker 1: kids and Joey Week eighteen.

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