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Speaker 1: Yo yo yo.

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Speaker 2: Wee live on location, New York City, NBA Draft me

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Speaker 2: in the middle of Manhattan. The blackest one is here

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Speaker 2: and we got family member right now.

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Speaker 1: Man, this is crazy. Man. I seen this man when

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Speaker 1: he was live. Bitty love Blip blip you.

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Speaker 2: We got young Jack Howard University of Michigan's aka Juwan

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Speaker 2: Howard's young boy. You know what I'm saying. I love love Bro.

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Speaker 2: You up in the building yourself. We appreciate you, We

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Speaker 2: proud of you have have, but we proud to have

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Speaker 2: you up in the building with us, right black Yes, sir, yes, sir.

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Speaker 3: First question I want to ask you is when you

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Speaker 3: get to the league after the draft and all that,

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Speaker 3: who you looking forward to playing against, whether it's a

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Speaker 3: team or a player, who you look forward to playing against.

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Speaker 4: Paul George, Paul George.

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Speaker 1: With that PG situation on that smooth game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just because I just want to see it up close, basically,

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Speaker 5: you know, I just I've been watching this game for

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Speaker 5: a while and trying to steal all his moves, and yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just want to see it in real time.

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Speaker 4: E G.

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Speaker 2: Influence in this day and this generation heavy hime were

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Speaker 2: starting to see that.

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Speaker 6: Right yeah, we're seeing screen that and then.

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Speaker 3: Okay, born in Chicago, but you went to school to IMG.

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Speaker 6: Yeah Florida, boar, you're down there with the Florida boy.

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Speaker 3: You know, we live in Florida, so yeah, we definitely

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Speaker 3: How was it going to IMG and winning titles and

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Speaker 3: competing for national titles?

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Speaker 5: It was dope. It was like an experience like just

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Speaker 5: being away from home. I would say that was the

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Speaker 5: toughest part at fifteen years old, Like you just get

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Speaker 5: thrown down into the fire against McDonald's All Americans early on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so just understanding how to just manage like.

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Speaker 5: Your time away from the game when you in the

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Speaker 5: doing by yourself, and yeah, you just got a lot

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Speaker 5: of time. And I feel like that prepared me for college.

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Speaker 5: That's why college was so easy.

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Speaker 2: How much impact you think they had, like leaving home

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Speaker 2: at that type of age gave you, like as far

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Speaker 2: as like maturing before it was probably time for the

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Speaker 2: mature ship.

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Speaker 5: I think that's why I did so good when I

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Speaker 5: got there because it was just like second nature. It

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Speaker 5: gets you really ready just from like a condition mental standpoint,

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Speaker 5: like down there is like this next level down there.

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Speaker 5: So I got a lot of thanks to them down there.

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Speaker 3: We know who put the ball in your hand, but

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Speaker 3: when did the pop stop beating you did?

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Speaker 4: He never played that.

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Speaker 1: I'm me and you you you ain't gonna beat me.

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Speaker 5: He's been running, I asked him and set running.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I know, I know, my g I.

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Speaker 3: Know, but let's ask it, big Bro. How long was

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Speaker 3: Big Bro kicking your ass?

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Speaker 5: Until it was always even? It was always even, but

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Speaker 5: it always just came to blows out there. So that's

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Speaker 5: like like he if he lose, he fighting me so

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Speaker 5: and vice versus. So I just feel like that prepared me.

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Speaker 5: But I never played. My dad never damn playing?

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Speaker 4: Was it?

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Speaker 2: How was it growing up knowing that your dad is

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Speaker 2: Juwan Howard of the Fab five, of the of everything,

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Speaker 2: you know, like.

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Speaker 6: First of all player, he was a lot I.

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Speaker 2: Forget about that. I'm talking about like real talk. That

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Speaker 2: was the picture for us. That was my og, him

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Speaker 2: and Mike Fenn like those who we wanted to grow

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Speaker 2: up to be like. They was the picture of like

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Speaker 2: who you wanted to be, Like badass on the court,

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Speaker 2: boys out there balling, all start doing at the highest level,

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Speaker 2: but the best individuals off it like looking after us

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Speaker 2: always trying to drop gyms and stuff, like how was

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Speaker 2: it growing up under somebody with that type of prominent

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Speaker 2: fixture you know, in the world and the game and

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Speaker 2: everything that he mean to it. Then you got uncles

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Speaker 2: like Chris Webber Jalen Rose, fab felt like how was that?

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Speaker 5: I didn't know? Like he was such a good player

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Speaker 5: just from you know, you watching him at the end

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Speaker 5: of the bench, Like but when you get old enough

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Speaker 5: to understand, yeah, Like you get old enough, you like

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Speaker 5: get to high school like okay, well, now I'm strying

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Speaker 5: to watch the documentaries. Now I'm starting to hear like

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Speaker 5: my big homies like Bam and all them and come

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Speaker 5: to me and tell me like yo, like he puts

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Speaker 5: some work in so just like that, and just you know,

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Speaker 5: having Chris around, having Jail around. When I got to Michigan,

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Speaker 5: there was more like hands on with me and just

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Speaker 5: telling me just not things up. Obviously, I wish I

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Speaker 5: had to get on.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: It was the first experience walking in the locker room

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Speaker 3: and seeing your jersey with your family names behind, and

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Speaker 3: seeing your brother's jersey and seeing your pops up there

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Speaker 3: telling you the game, it.

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Speaker 5: Was surreal, just ain't sinking like it was just I'll

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Speaker 5: say it sunk in when I when I threw my

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Speaker 5: brother ball he hit a three, It just all sunk in,

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Speaker 5: like whoa, Like we're doing this at Michigan. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: like he coaching us, and you know he was hard

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Speaker 5: on me so like in practice it was a lot

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Speaker 5: of like he just be cursing me out in practice

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Speaker 5: like that. So that's I feel like that's when it started,

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Speaker 5: like Okay, we're really here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like the ever possibility that you might have almost

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Speaker 2: could have went to Tennessee anywhere else but where Big

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Speaker 2: Knuke was at, Like what you.

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Speaker 5: Mean I pretty much verbally committed there house way I ain't.

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Speaker 5: I ain't take my Michigan visit yet. Like it was

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Speaker 5: like and you know, I just fell in love with

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Speaker 5: Rick Barnes, Like you know, he already got some dudes

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Speaker 5: at my position in the league. And when he broke

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Speaker 5: it down to me, like you know, he coach kd

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Speaker 5: allt them. So he's sitting there like, whoa, I feel beautiful.

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Speaker 5: You know you don't get cold, and you're like, man,

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Speaker 5: I could really do this. But then I landed back

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Speaker 5: in in Arbor, Michigan. It was like, man, like what

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Speaker 5: the heck you're doing? Like like you gotta like, you know,

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Speaker 5: running by by me. So when he set me down

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Speaker 5: and had that conversation, it was like Rocky but I

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Speaker 5: understood it, like he broke down the film for me.

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Speaker 4: So it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: What was about mom?

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Speaker 6: Did Mom wants you to go to Michigan or she

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Speaker 6: wants you to go?

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Speaker 5: She would tell you she wants she fifty to fifty fifty.

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Speaker 5: She liked Tennessee a lot like she liked Tennessee. They

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Speaker 5: don't let her fool you, but I mean it was

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Speaker 5: cool for us all being home.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about the impact that Mom Dukes had on you, man,

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Speaker 2: cause I see every time I remember seeing you at

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Speaker 2: the Big Three in Houston, everywhere, Mom Duke's got you

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Speaker 2: on deck. Tell me what type of impact she had

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Speaker 2: because we all know Nuke he the og, but he

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Speaker 2: was had to do a lot for the NBA side

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Speaker 2: of it, and we know she held it down in

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Speaker 2: a major way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like y'all know the schedule, like the A two

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Speaker 5: game schedules, so like he can't be there, like it's

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Speaker 5: impossible for him to be there all the time. So

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Speaker 5: she was the one taking me to practices and taking

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Speaker 5: me to tournaments all across the country.

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Speaker 1: Flying relationship.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like she liked my rock so without her, like

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Speaker 5: she was out there rebinding for me, Like, so that's

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Speaker 5: really like my mom for really that's my that's.

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Speaker 6: My I was getting to rebund, That's what's up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she was in the gym for real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Workouts. How was your workouts going? How many workouts you

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Speaker 3: had and how you feel that you did them?

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Speaker 5: I think did really well in my workouts. I had

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Speaker 5: ten mostly group, a few individuals. But okay, so you

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Speaker 5: was bumping, yeah, bumping on city City. I wasn't running

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Speaker 5: from no smoke.

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Speaker 1: Get in that. Look at you.

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Speaker 4: We got a few runners, but you know we're not

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Speaker 4: running from no smoke.

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Speaker 6: What's one of the workouts you feel like you was

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Speaker 6: your best workout?

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Speaker 4: Probably say Toronto And okay, see.

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Speaker 2: How was it when you like went through the process

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Speaker 2: of like all right, pops, Like when y'all come a decision,

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Speaker 2: I'm bouncing, Like how was that telling them that you

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Speaker 2: leave like, ain't gonna lie?

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Speaker 5: It was tough, like like you see we had our

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Speaker 5: exit meeting. Every dude has an exit meeting. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's so blunt, like he was just like, you know, no,

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Speaker 5: tell me like what you want to do. Like, I'm

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Speaker 5: not about to sit here and tell you what you

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Speaker 5: should do. You had to tell me, like what you.

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Speaker 4: Want to do.

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Speaker 5: So I was just like, damn, I'm sitting there and

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Speaker 5: you know it's emotional. So I was like, damn, man,

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Speaker 5: I got to get up out of here. So and

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Speaker 5: he was like, I agree when he said, Daddy just

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Speaker 5: kind of made me comfortable.

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Speaker 6: Made you more confident, man.

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Speaker 4: We called We called him save the plan.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen the footage of your dad getting drafted?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So you saw the interview at there.

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Speaker 1: You said the suit word everything.

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Speaker 4: The interview.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, he's not literally you know, he speaks

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Speaker 1: so well. He was emotionally.

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Speaker 4: I gotta go back and my dad interview. I ain't

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Speaker 4: gonna lie. That's crazy, man.

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Speaker 6: One thing you ain't gonna do is what he did.

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Speaker 5: I would be clear about words, but that's Chicago Public

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Speaker 5: Square education for you.

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Speaker 1: Want to miss what you gotta start.

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Speaker 3: But so you've seen him get drafted in the process

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Speaker 3: and all this stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I see j Rose, Like that's what I.

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Speaker 1: Really need to be talking about that fit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what's crazy. So what are you wearing to

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Speaker 4: I'm wearing something smooth, some of light brown suit.

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Speaker 1: Will you be the best dress?

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Speaker 4: Be the most clean?

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Speaker 1: I've seen him. I've seen the prime pick.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I seen the prime out in the crime.

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Speaker 1: I seen the.

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Speaker 2: Prom picks all the way out.

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Speaker 1: Man, you see this kid, Tom, let you down.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you, Uh, you have the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to become a movie star. Before you get the chance,

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Speaker 3: how was how was it to to see you know,

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Speaker 3: I know you put a picture out there that you're

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Speaker 3: gonna be mellow, but how was it to see that dropping,

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Speaker 3: you know, to come out and see the reviews and

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Speaker 3: how everybody appreciated what happened.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was dope, just because you know, when

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Speaker 5: you make basketball movies sometimes it's corny. You trying to

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Speaker 5: stay away from that. When I got there on set,

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Speaker 5: it was like, you know, School Henderson, some of the

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Speaker 5: other dudes, five stars coming up in the next class.

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Speaker 5: So when I saw it, I was like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be dope because a lot of times in

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Speaker 5: basketball movies you don't see real hoops.

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Speaker 1: Real moves, real moves, and it was dope. Like in

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Speaker 5: They was like, you know, y'all, y'all got five minutes,

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Speaker 1: Out there with it. Yeah, that's real fine, no script.

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Speaker 3: So when you found out that you're finna be a

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Speaker 4: School vers legend like that, I love Mellow like ever

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Speaker 5: So as soon as my dad had talked, my dad

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Speaker 6: Got that type of tha that.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, have you thought about like your moment

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Speaker 3: Nah, I really don't know. When I got drafted. I

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Speaker 1: He told me, like, be cool, be cool.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna shake his hand, You're gonna give him some love,

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Speaker 3: but you're gonna give him a good hug, a good

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Speaker 4: I might take your advice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, give some love, especially like I'm super happy twenty

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Speaker 1: Be cool, bro, get up.

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Speaker 3: So how excited on you to see your mom to

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Speaker 5: Boy, Honestly, I'm just happy, you know, because I feel

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Speaker 3: So being a former player son, just to tell everybody

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Speaker 5: I just feel like sometimes you just like you get

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Speaker 5: I got the mission. I put a little bit too

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Speaker 5: ain't got no Chris Webber or no j Rod. But

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Speaker 4: Out of it, and you have to calm yourself, calm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me just tell you bro from a former player,

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Speaker 2: couldn't happen to a better dude. Your pout was one

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Speaker 2: of the realist ones, stay giving back and pouring into

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Speaker 1: So just all of us, I know.

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Speaker 2: He gotta be crazy, crazy proud on the whole different level,

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Speaker 2: but just for all of us, just because how we

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Speaker 2: look up and admire him, super super happy for him

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Speaker 2: to get experience. I can't wait to see him sitting

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Speaker 2: with you and the family and just when everything go down. Bro,

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Speaker 2: it's just like for me, it's just like a dope moment,

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Speaker 2: just to watch an experience for new because like he was, like, Bro,

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Speaker 2: you won't even you can't even understand the fathom how

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Speaker 3: Talk we gonna know that line, gonna be crispy.

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Speaker 6: Line.

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Speaker 1: I said that, but it was no other way you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we definitely, like you said, piggybacking off that, Man,

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Speaker 3: we're definitely happy for your pops and your mom. Man,

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Speaker 3: them two people that we we love dearly and love

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Speaker 3: y'all family, and we grew up under them. So to

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: We can't wait to see you put up buckets in

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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 2: And we got some knuckleheads trivia. Boy, this is did

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Speaker 2: we got a one minute rapid fire? How many can

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Speaker 2: you answer? First question is where is the joker from

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Speaker 2: Serbia who.

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Speaker 3: Was the first pick in the twenty twenty two Drive

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Speaker 3: two Apolo who.

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Speaker 2: Is the only player to win m v P Defensive

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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan who holds the NBA all time rebound record.

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Speaker 4: Uh Andre Drummer nah Dwight.

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Speaker 3: Howard will who won the.

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Speaker 6: Two thousand and five three points What.

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Speaker 1: Sit next to.

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Speaker 4: You, Quinn?

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Speaker 2: You lie, I don't know you got a shop like that?

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Speaker 1: What? What? What number? The cop word before twenty four? Hey?

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Speaker 1: What did KG yell out when he won the championship?

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Speaker 1: And he did? Is buzzible? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What former NBA player? Is an anointed night? H what

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Speaker 3: anointed night? And the night like a real night?

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Speaker 4: Marketing? No?

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Speaker 6: Four?

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Speaker 1: That was alright answer though.

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Speaker 2: Yes, be in the field all right, man, that's been

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Speaker 2: a rap man. We had our young boy, our family member,

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Speaker 1: Man, that's of love to you.

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Speaker 2: Draft we're gonna be watching to see where you're laying,

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Speaker 2: young fella. You know we're gonna be tapping in and

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Speaker 2: we get to the league and do your thing. Man,

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Speaker 2: So it's already what it is. Knuckleheads out.

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