1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome 3 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lilly here with Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: This is the number one rated morning show on the 5 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio at least in Households and Upper 6 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: St Clair in Washington. P A, Um, Matt, Big weekend 7 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: for the Steelers Saturday. Of course, this is leading up 8 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: to a big week this week. It's Happy August, by 9 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: the way, Happy August, you amazing August. August means we're 10 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: gonna start playing some football here. Uh, summer left, not 11 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: a lot of summer left. Kids will be heading back 12 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: to school here. Um. But we'll see a Steeler game 13 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: on Thursday. They'll play the Cowboys in the Hall of 14 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: Fame game. On Saturday and Sunday there'll be a bunch 15 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: of guys inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, 16 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: including five people who are involved with the Steelers. And 17 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: last Saturday we saw the Hall of Honor class. Ye 18 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: were announced. Um, before you get there, let's just give 19 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: everyone a kind of a programming note because we're gonna 20 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: be doing our show today obviously tomorrow and then you're 21 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: not gonna hear from us in this slot for a 22 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: little while because Wednesday's off because the Steelers travel. Thursday 23 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: is the game and obviously that takes care of itself. 24 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 1: I'll be doing the postgame show with Adam Crawley, which 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: you guys can call in and give us a buzz, 26 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: and you know after on the pre pregame show and 27 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: the pregame shows it as it were. And then Friday 28 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: we won't do a show because there's no practice, and 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: then you and I will do shows Saturday and Sunday 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: from three to six at the Hall of Fame, which 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: would be pretty cool. So and then we'll get back 32 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: to normal schedual out next week. Yeah, um yeah, we'll 33 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: be back on next Monday today. But that Hall of 34 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: Honor class this year includes Tonkin, John Colb, Cardinal Lake, 35 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: and Lewis Lips more of a recent this year. Usually 36 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: they try to pick a guy from every era. Um, 37 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: they're all kind of the same group. We order you know, well, 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: you know you're looking at three guys who at least 39 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: played in four rings. Four rings, four guys who played 40 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: in the eighties. Um, well, if you if you can, 41 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: our buddy till he just drafted in sixty nine, but 42 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: he played into the eighties, so more of an eighties, 43 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: more of an eight him, right. I mean, our buddy 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: Wolf is gonna be taking your seat here at ten 45 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: as usual, and I'm I am very excited to have 46 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: that conversation with him, to be honest with you, Obviously, 47 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: his connection with Tonch is extremely well known. Um, we 48 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: did a whole segment on John Cold last week. I mean, 49 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: that's a good friend of Wolves that he played with. 50 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: He had to played. He played with Lips and Lakes 51 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: like the new guy that he played with. He played 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: with Lake too. I guess they would have overlapped time. Okay, 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: late eighties, huh. I keep thinking Lakes a little younger 54 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: than those guys, and he is, but not by a 55 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot. They were the kind of 56 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: the bridge to the from the seventies to the eighties. Yeah, yeah, 57 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: that makes sense to the nineties. And first of all, 58 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: I was thrilled to hear touch of game. I didn't 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: even put two and two together that maybe this would 60 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: be the year for him. I kind of thought it 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: was so smart. I thought it was a great move. Um, again, 62 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: if anyone listened. Last week, we did a whole segment 63 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: on John Colb, and Bob Labriola had a really good 64 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: piece in his asking the answered about it. So I 65 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: guess someone asked him about Colb and he went into 66 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: detail about those four Super Bowls. The defensive ends that 67 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: he played against were like Fred Fred Dryer, Jim Marshall, 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: and uh Harvey Martin twice. And those guys didn't sniff 69 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback in those games at all. I mean I 70 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: thought it was I didn't do that, you know, I 71 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: mean those type of things. Lake was always a favorite 72 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: of mine. Fred Dryer. People remember Fred Dryer from The 73 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: Hunter Teeth right, but he was part of a great 74 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: deal a hundred career sacks. All three of those guys 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: that we mentioned at over a hundred sacks in an 76 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: era when they didn't throw the ball very much. I mean, 77 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: so again, I mean, we really went into detail about 78 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: John Coleben. I learned a lot about the guy that 79 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know about. Being born in ninety three, that 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: era was, you know, I was smart enough to know football, 81 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, the seventies Steelers were legends, but I was, 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, under ten years old when that happened, So 83 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: I really started to get into it in that era 84 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: and have a clue what I was talking about seeing 85 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: Louis lips was like the most popular Steeler at that point. 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean he was maybe he was the most dynamic 87 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: guy in that group. And Lake was definitely a favorite 88 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: of mine. We've talked about him a lot on this show. 89 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean, vastly underrated I think in Steelers lower but 90 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: maybe not anymore. Yeah, maybe vastly underrated in NFL. Yeah, 91 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: maybe not Steelers as a guy who was that first, 92 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: like one of the first hybrids, because he was a 93 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: linebacker linebacker at u c L a wh who moved 94 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: to safety and even played all right, I mean that's 95 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: a big corner, a big safety. I think you said 96 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: this before since we you know, probably over the years, 97 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of takeaways, so that might have 98 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: helped or hurt his cause a little bit just in 99 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: the national eye. And there was a lot of other 100 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: stars around him, you know, so it might have been 101 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: easy to overlook how good he was and Carnell was. 102 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: Actually I think Carnell was the first safety to get 103 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: an NFL Defensive Player of the Year award vote. It 104 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: never happened because he got one the one year, but 105 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: that was Ronnie Lott didn't get him or Kenny easily 106 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: and thinking like guys of that era, you know that 107 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: we're stars. Wow. No, but I always thought he was 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: a great player. Yeah, so interesting that that they got that, uh, 109 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: that class and now announced will they'll honor that class 110 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: when they played the Lions this year. They'll also honored 111 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: last year's class when they play. Guess it's like the 112 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: Hall of Famers. Yeah, didn't have it last year because 113 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: there were no you know, you know, you weren't going 114 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: to bring those guys back with no fans in the 115 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: stadium just to sit there and wave and right there 116 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: was a fans that were in the stands. Do you 117 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: have that class handy? Um, we're off the top of 118 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: your head, I mean the top of my head, throwing 119 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: right under the bus there and again we saw way 120 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: too much of that stuff with COVID is let's honor Jimmy, Joe, 121 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: Bob and there's nobody that stands the clap form or 122 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: anything like what we're doing. That was Paula Maloue. Paul 123 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: because he's the Hall of Fame or they go straight 124 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 1: in right Greg Lloyd's, Mike Wagner, Dwight White. Yeah, another 125 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: really good class. Yeah, there's a lot of a lot 126 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: of talk that White should have been a Hall of Famer. Um. 127 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: Wagner was a really good player of course too. And 128 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: who was the last one I'm sorry, James Ferrier. Okay, 129 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: that's a good group. Yeah, so that'd be fun to this, 130 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: So they all get together at the Lions game, kind 131 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: of like that'll be this week Yeah, I would assume, 132 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers will do their alumn weekend and 133 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: honor those guys and conglomerate to two years. Kind of 134 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: like call of famous coming to get eight guys going in. Wow, 135 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: that's cool. That'll be a big, a big one um 136 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: this weekend. Of course the fence Dealers. They should do 137 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: it against a better team than the Lions. Get everybody 138 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: up for a huge game against a better opponent. That edge, 139 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they need the edge against the Lions. 140 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: Always use the edge. You can always use the always always. 141 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: They're like turnovers, you can always use the edge. I 142 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, some of the other games, I think we'll 143 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: speak for themselves, and you know, I think they like 144 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: to do it around that time of year and um 145 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: what time of years that I didn't know what what 146 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: week is that? Like middle of the year. Yeah, it's right, 147 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: and it's believing late October October. Let me look at 148 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: the dates here and put me all over and say, geez, 149 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm giving you a lot of work here. Sorry. Uh, 150 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: that is October. No, that's November that they probably don't 151 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: want it to be. The other thing would have been 152 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: they had a Monday night him against the Bears. You 153 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: can't do it on Monday. I wouldn't do it on 154 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: mon because you gonna bring those guys. And then you're 155 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: at Los Angeles the next weekend against the Chargers and 156 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: at the Bengals. So I guess that adds up. It's 157 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: a good spot right now. They could have done in 158 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: December fifth against the Ravens. But yeah, yeah, that's pushing 159 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: it later into the year. Chili too. Yeah, at least 160 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: in November, you're still kind of getting the decent weather. Yeah, 161 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: it's November's football weather without question. Late October November like 162 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: the my favorite times of the year for football, especially 163 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: in this area. It's not it's not really you don't 164 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: get the big snows, but there's there's some wind, it's 165 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: it's chill. You get the chill in the air at night, 166 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: the leaves have turned. Yeah, yeah, that's football, that's football weather. 167 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: So I guess you've covered all those guys, all four 168 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: of the yeah, recent inductees, and had a lot of 169 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: internew Well no, not John Cole, but I've I've met 170 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: coleb We've had cold on the air. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, 171 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: So that's a good group. Congrats to that group, of course, 172 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: and that'll be fun. Yeah, looking forward to that one, 173 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: looking forward to this weekend and everything that's gonna go 174 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: on up in Canton. Of course, we'll see what happens 175 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: with Troy Paula Mallo. I don't expect him to be 176 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: there because he tested positive for COVID on Friday. Bad luck, 177 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: that is bad luck for him. I mean, you guys 178 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: waited a year right to go in and you know 179 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: now now this, but do you think he'll just pre 180 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: record something? I would assume. So, yeah, it's not gonna 181 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: be like a zoom call. There was some questions or 182 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: any but you got Donnie Shell going in, you have 183 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: Bill Kauer going in, and then Sunday will be fanic up. Yeah, 184 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: and uh Bill. They'll do the bill, not announcement as well. Uh, 185 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: you know Bill is already in because they did the 186 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: you know some of those guys. But should be a 187 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: big weekend for Steelers. I'm curious how Steeler Nation represents themselves. 188 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 1: I'm imagining it'll be pretty strong. I can admit it. 189 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: Since I've been on the air regularly with you, I 190 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: don't think the Steeler has been inducted, so I haven't 191 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: been part of or has paid attention as closely or 192 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: broad casted from up there when a Steeler has been inducted. 193 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, Um, and the facilities up there, although they've 194 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: they've redone the field. The last time we were up there, 195 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: if you remember that was when Sean sweeze him blew 196 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: his knee up. Oh, I remember being up the high 197 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: school field. It was at a time Yeah they call, 198 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of smaller colleges playing on this 199 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: kind of legendary high school. But they have now redone 200 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: that whole stadium. Um, and I haven't been up there 201 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: since they've done that. I do remember the last time, um, 202 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: they had the Hall of Fame was the game was 203 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: no that the announcements were before the game the game 204 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: was on Sunday. I believe I always thought the game 205 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: was last. Yeah, the game was last back to schedule 206 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: this year. So I remember they had the they had 207 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame inductions Jerome Bettest winning that year 208 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: and I think it was Bettis and the it's a 209 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: it's a field, turf field with the rubber eyes that 210 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: that uh and I got when I got there on Sunday. 211 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: I'd covered the events Saturday night. They have a they 212 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: had a tarpaut over the field, but everybody's sitting a 213 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: lot of people are sitting on the field. And so 214 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: when I got there Sunday, the entire field was black 215 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: because because all the rubber comes, all the pellets had 216 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: come to the top, and I'm like, boy, this is 217 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: not good. And then they said the cruise up there 218 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: spent the next like two hours kind of working those 219 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: pellets back into the into the turf just so you 220 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: could see like yard markers. And I don't think I've 221 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: ever seen the field turf field looked like that. Yeah, 222 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: I mean it was you couldn't see any of the 223 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: mark any of the yard markers or anything on that feed. 224 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: And then you know, sweez him goes out and blows 225 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: his knee up. And you know that was a big deal. 226 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: The next year, if you're a call, the two teams 227 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: declined to play there. Right now, this is coming back 228 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: to me, right yeah, they said no, that it feel 229 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: it's not safe. It's terrible. It feels a safe and 230 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: that's when they then said, okay, we're gonna move the 231 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: game ahead of the induction, the induction because you're gonna 232 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: have everybody on the field and that kind of stuff. 233 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: But they've also redone the whole thing. They put in 234 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: the new field, and the Saints were a big part 235 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: of redoing the field. They're they're um, what they their 236 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: their owner, tom be Tom Benson put a bunch of 237 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: He donated a bunch of money to the Hall of Fame. 238 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: So take it upgrade the facilities. Maybe trying to get 239 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: in maybe, but you know, somebody, that's a kind thing 240 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: to do from a very rich human being. Obviously. Yeah, 241 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, I don't even know what the 242 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, how much he gave them. It was a 243 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: significant amount of money to upgrade the facilities are in 244 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: the stadium and so they've done a good job. So 245 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: I've been told of revamping that field and getting it 246 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: up to NFL standards, I mean along those lines with 247 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: the you know, like I'm surprised there has been more 248 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: issues over the years with when Steelers follow pit or 249 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: Kenny ches he's there on Friday and they play Sunday. 250 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: They try not to do that during I know they 251 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: try it. That's usually a summertime. I mean, I know 252 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: it's come up once in a while. But that ground 253 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: crew does a heck of a job, there's no doubt. 254 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: You know. The when when Hinesfield opened, um, they had 255 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: the kind of the hybrid I know I used to. 256 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: That's when I was bid I take recruits through there, 257 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: and there there was some rough time and people think 258 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: back of the about hines Field and they think, well, 259 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: I remember that Dolphins game. How bad the field was there. 260 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: They had laid turf, they laid grass over top of 261 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: that turf, and then it rained. It was just a 262 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: bad situation. The field of years that Hinefield were a 263 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: little sketchy. The field now is immaculate. Oh, I think 264 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: it's great. Yeah, I mean it's one of the best. 265 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the better fields, you know, 266 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: especially particularly in the Northeast um, you know where it's 267 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: difficult to grow grass a year without question, without question. 268 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean I knew there was a lot of not 269 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: suggestions or blowback on what the word is that why 270 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: not just put field turf in? And the and the 271 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: Runeys really resisted that the players were there playing grass too. 272 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah that then you know the high school games are 273 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: there too. I know that's a big deal. And all 274 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: four of those play back back back back, you know, so, 275 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: um no, they've done a heck with job. But I 276 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: do remember the beginning my pit years were a little 277 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: sketchy and they were kind of searching for answers there. Yeah, 278 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're they're they're all kinds of 279 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: advancements in how to do this stuff. And you see 280 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: field turf at some places. You see that, you know 281 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: a lot of places if you want to have grass, 282 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: and I think football should be played on grass. Yeah, 283 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: I think with you. Yeah, Um, it's it's really not. 284 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: It's a really good field. Um, they've been practicing on 285 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: it now for over a week and you're just now 286 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: starting to see a little bit of wear and tear 287 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: on that field. It looks pretty solid right now, and 288 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: it's I think it's one of the better again, the 289 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: better fields in the in the Northeast where it is 290 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: difficult to grow grass. You know, nobody ever talks about. 291 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, I like the people o the field looks 292 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: like it's a little beaten up. What's your front yard 293 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: looked like? Yeah, what's what's Lambeau Field looked like in December? Chicago. Yeah, 294 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: those are Buffalo is Field turf. I think Cleveland is 295 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: as well. No, Cleveland's Cleveland's grass. But that I remember 296 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: going down on that field when it was Old Memorial Stadium, 297 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: and because it was so close to the lake, it 298 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: was wet. Yeah, kind of like Chicago. Chicago gets that 299 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: wetness too. Yeah, they don't. They don't drain real well, 300 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers. You're close to the water there. Yeah, you know, 301 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: you throw frisbee in the lake. Good, come on, Matt, 302 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: all right, Bubby, get the wind blowing in off the lakes. 303 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I'm I'm interested to see, you know, 304 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: the improvements that they've made to the to the Hall 305 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: of Fame field. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. Actually, 306 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: they call it Tom Benson Field. Yeah, you must have 307 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: donated more than a couple of bus. But that's gonna 308 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: do it for this segment that we're gonna take a 309 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: break when we come back. Matt. Over the weekend, I 310 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: cut the roster to fifty three players did Yeah, it 311 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: was a day off yesterday. I say, okay, here's what 312 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: I want to do. So we'll go through. We'll go 313 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: through what I had there, and you know, give you 314 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: an idea of who to keep an eye on this week. 315 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: This week at some game. Of course, there's no doubt. 316 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have to cut the final roster 317 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: to August thirty one. Maybe we should do that every 318 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: two weeks or so. Yeah, after, but we'll do that 319 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: right after this your Tunes about Drive on Home of 320 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm 321 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: Dale Alli here with Matt Williamson and Matt. As I 322 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: mentioned on d K Pittsburgh Sports over the weekend, I 323 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: broke down the what I think how I think the 324 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster is looking right now. Now they 325 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: don't have to cut. They'll cut the eighty five players 326 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: auguste so five players will be gone. I guess it's 327 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: not that far away. A week later, they'll cut the 328 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: roster to eighty'll be August, and then a week after 329 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: that August thirty one, they'll cut down to fifty three. Okay, 330 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: and we still don't know how many of going to 331 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: the practice squad and all those things. It's gonna be 332 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: the rules like last year, so you can get veterans 333 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: on there and all that kind of So that factors 334 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: into this as well. Who you know, who do you 335 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: think you can slide through waivers? You know, yeah, that's 336 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: there's some strategy here involved to absolutely who can I 337 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: grab off practice squad quick? And you know there's there's 338 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: less COVID situations. You know, don't you used to keep 339 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: two kickers to point or is that kind of thing? 340 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, let's dig in. So a quarterback is pretty simple. 341 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: I have Roethlisberger Rudolph Haskins in some order. I know 342 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger will be one. I'm I still think Rudolph winds 343 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: up being the number two and then Haskins is three. 344 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: I know some people think, are you know, Rudolph had 345 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: a tough night Friday, but he's working against the first 346 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: team defense. I'd be shocked if he doesn't have a 347 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: good preseason. I mean just the games. Yeah, uh, Haskins 348 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: threw two interceptions on Saturday then not one of them 349 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: wasn't really his fault us the balls tipped the near 350 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: it hit Gentry in the head and went up into 351 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: the air. The throw it was over the middle and 352 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: he had a tight window, so he gunned it a little, 353 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: put a little extra on it, and it was it 354 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: got there quick. It was about fifteen twenty yards down field. 355 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: And I just think it's saying it. I think Gentry 356 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: was kind of surprised at the how quick it got 357 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: there on him. Maybe he's just trying to make an 358 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: Ohio staate guy look bad as a Michigan Well, it 359 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: was intercepted them by a Michigan stea guy because you 360 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: cure Brown picked it off. But Mike Pursuoner was happy. 361 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: He was like, oh, let say that Michigan guy getting 362 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: it leading to an inner ouption by the Michigan state guy. 363 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: And I went out and I looked at him and said, 364 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: throw him by the Ohio state guy. How about that. 365 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: You guys already had this conversation like the bonus coming 366 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: up with something new there what looks like Haskin probably 367 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: throw it high. Considering Gentry's six eight or whatever. The 368 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: probably got a harm's way in a little bit. Yeah, 369 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: but no, but he can sling it. Josh Dobbs has 370 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: actually looked pretty good now he's working against you. Didn't 371 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: do a practice squad right now, I said, he probably 372 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: ends up. I would like to keep him around unless 373 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: somebody's will give you a pick for him or something, 374 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: because here's the thing. He can give you some of 375 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: those looks. He can simulate Lamar Jackson. He can do 376 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: some of those those things for you. Uh, you know, 377 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: as as a member of the practice squad. You might 378 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: want him to be a stealer next year too, there's that, 379 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: you know. And so I don't want to just go 380 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: send him on his way. And we know Ben likes that, 381 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, likes it. So you know, if he's on 382 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: the practice squad, he could be on the sideline. Oh yeah. 383 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: I mean obviously he's extremely smart human being. He can 384 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: give some insights in that room as well. He might 385 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: be good for Haskins, you know. Yeah, So I think 386 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: he's a good guy to keep around. And I don't 387 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: think that there'll be a big you know, somebody's will 388 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: you trade him? He was only he was a free 389 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: agent this year, anybody could have signed you. I don't 390 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: know you're gonna gonna pick for him. You have to 391 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: really light up the preseason, and I don't know he's 392 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: gonna get a ton of opportunity to do so. And 393 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: some team that love him would have to have an 394 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: injury or yeah, I mean again, the Football Today's on 395 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: or whatever their morning show is, and Zach Wilson's face 396 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: just popped up. They have no quarterbacks have ever thrown 397 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: a bass in the NFL in New York like grab 398 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: like he's throwing. At least he's been around. Yeah. Uh, 399 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: running backs, I've got nausea. Harris obviously, Yeah, Anthony McFarland's yes, 400 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: Benny Snell, Caleb Balage, Derek Watt. I'm keeping five, okay, 401 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: do you consider keeping six? No, because I think you're 402 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: gonna need those spots elsewhere in the roster you can 403 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: put you can stash somebody, whether that be Jlen Samuel's 404 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: or somebody else who's better than that, or grab someone 405 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: off the wire that's young or an Edmonds type. Would 406 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: have to be somebody else because those are the running 407 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: backs they have in camp. No, I really don't have any, 408 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: so it has to be from somebody someone that goes yeah, yeah, 409 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: I got no problem with that. I mean, frankly, I 410 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: don't want to see Samuels make the team, to be 411 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: all very honesty, I don't know that he brings enough 412 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: to the table. I listed Anthony McFarland's second on that 413 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: list for a reason. I think he's going to be 414 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: the second leading ball carrier on this team, assuming everyone 415 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: stays healthy. Yes, because I don't know that he's like 416 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: the handcuffed and nausey. No, he's not. But I think 417 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: they find a way to get him a hundred touches 418 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: over the course of the season. Oh yeah, I might 419 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: even think the over on that. Yeah, yeah it maybe 420 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: he gets a series here and there. You've mentioned him 421 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: and Harris could be on the field together. He's interesting. Yeah, 422 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: I think he even might be Fantasy relevant this year. Maybe. 423 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he certainly has more juice than Snell. Yeah, 424 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean, can he return? He was a kick returner 425 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: last year. Do you think working is a punt returner 426 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: a little bit in his camp. We'll see if that. 427 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: You know, they give him also a returner in the past. 428 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: Do you think McFarland's pretty set as a kick returner. Yeah, 429 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: because I think they like his speed there. I would 430 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: say that's a great spot for him. Yeah, that's perfect. 431 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: And he said he's he's put on five pounds. That 432 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: puts him, you know, around right around two hundred pounds. Um. Still, 433 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: it looks like he has the juice. Has a returner 434 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: that's more of a running back. Tighten has some wiggle 435 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: in the open field, right, Yeah, break those arm tackles 436 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: after he's got a little bit ahead of team. Yeah. 437 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I think Snell, you know, Snell play 438 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: special teams. He's a covers guy. It's a key thing 439 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: for Yeah. I don't know what blage is special team's value. 440 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: Blage maybe the guy who's inactive on game days and 441 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: if Harris is hurt, then he comes up and maybe 442 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: makes sense splits carries with Snell. Okay, that makes sense. 443 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: But I think you would keep your eyes open for 444 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: somebody falls in your lap for free. You might grab 445 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: it back. Yeah, wide receiver, I'm keeping six. I'm intrigued, 446 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: Deante Johnson, Sure, Chase Claypool, Juju Smith, Schuster, James Washington. 447 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm keeping Ray Ray McCleod. And let I can tell 448 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: by your tone you're not thrilled about it, and I 449 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't be there. I think McFarland. McFarland shows that he's 450 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: a better punt returner. McLeod's then in trouble and then 451 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: maybe they only keep five, and I think he cuts 452 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: into McLeod's offensive rule a little. Oh, there's no doubt 453 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 1: he flat out is better. I'd much rather have him 454 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: on the field on first you know. Yeah, the jet sweeps, 455 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: the quick screens, those kind of things can also has 456 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: hand them the ball as a traditional running back. I mean, 457 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't know you can do anything traditional with McLeod. 458 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not gonna run an out. I mean, well, 459 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: you know the sixth guy that I have right now 460 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: is Tyler Simmons. Um. I put Tyler Simmons on their 461 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: over Rico Bussey and Matthew Sexton. Um because Friday night 462 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: Tomlan mentioned that, you know, he was he was asked 463 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: about the young receivers and he says, I was really 464 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: impressed with Simmons Gunner work tonight. That's what you want 465 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: to hear. Yeah, So I mean this is that's what 466 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: that one's going to be. In a state of flux, 467 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: there's gonna be that you'd love to keep the guy, 468 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: that guy, that six guy has to be a special 469 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: team and that, but that gets him a hat on 470 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: game day. That's different than like a large situation we 471 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: just talked, right, Um, I always say this this time 472 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: of year, but it's very true. Listeners really pay attention 473 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: to who's running with the first team punt team during 474 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: the preseason, even the Hall of Fame game. If these 475 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: guys are you know, the gunners with the first couple 476 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: of units or the first couple of reps of the 477 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: punt team, they got a pretty good chance to make 478 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: the team. Or those guys that Danny Smith is gonna 479 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: stand up on the table. I need this guy, I 480 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: need it, or at least they're auditioning. I mean it's 481 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: the first one. But it's the thing. They still have 482 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: Lane and they still have Pierre, who were pretty good 483 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: gunners you know, over their careers. So they've got some 484 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: guys there who have done that. What you'd like to 485 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 1: have some extra guys in the mix. What happens if 486 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: one of the you know, what what happens if Joe 487 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: Hayden gets goes down. Do you want James Pierre out 488 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: there running downcovering kicks. No, no, Well, because the other 489 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: thing too is you run down you cover kick, or 490 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: even harder, you run down as a gun and running 491 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: a punt and then you got a guard J J. Jones, right, 492 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: and you're a little gassed already. That's that's tough on 493 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: a defense. Yeah. So that's the thing about special teams. 494 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: I think that gets overlooked sometimes. You know, people, these 495 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: are human beings. Something happening, guys, you know, something happens 496 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: on special teams, and everybody's killing the special special teams. 497 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: Coach stinks he may go into it. Okay, here are 498 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: my top eleven guys. He may not get all the 499 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: top of those those eleven guys. You know, he may 500 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: get six of them. Well, he can't have this guy 501 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: and that guy and these three guys. We need guys 502 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: at other these guys at other positions. So that guy's 503 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: down today. I love having this conversation because no one 504 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: thinks about it that way. Because what if you gave 505 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: Matt Canada, Hey, Matt, I can assure you you have 506 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: five starters on opening kickoff, or we I'll give you 507 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: five guys that I can count on all year that 508 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: you'll have and then you can mix and match your 509 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: other six starters as the year goes on. That I'll 510 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: give if you get pick you know, if you're five, 511 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: and I'll probably give you four of them because we 512 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 1: will disagree on someone, I'll cut the other one and 513 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: you can you can just mix and match your starters 514 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: week the week from there, see how it goes. That's 515 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: kind of what happens. And you say you're getting instead 516 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: of getting eleven guys ready, and it's eleven guys on 517 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: like five different and different things, right, it's I'm getting 518 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: twenty guys ready, and I'm gonna have a you know, 519 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have eleven of these guys and maybe somebody 520 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: else gets tossed in there late. You know. It's just 521 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: it's yeah, And I know, even like the field goal 522 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: team and extra point team, they're not asked to do 523 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot. But it's but if 524 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: they don't block it and it gets, they don't block 525 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: it and it gets and a kick gets blocked. Special 526 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: teams coach stinks. But you gotta have eight guys that 527 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: are like two four to year bigger, you know, And 528 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: is it gonna be cam? Is it gonna be too it. 529 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean like they're because they have to be. There's 530 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: not that many guys active. Um. Yeah, so I think 531 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: you know Rico Buss, he has been a guy that 532 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: has Matthew Sexton has some juice as a as a 533 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: return guy. Maybe he beats out Raybray mcleoud. I don't 534 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: know the Clouds guaranteed anything. Yeah, which it's kind of 535 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: like the running back situation, those last two spots. Maybe 536 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: if someone around the league is out there, you'd consider it. 537 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: This time last year, Raybay McLoud wasn't on this roster. 538 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: He gets signed late in you know, midway through camp. 539 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: He was still out on in the free agent market. 540 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: So that those guys are available and one of those 541 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: names you mentioned that are lesser known, they're gonna make 542 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: some catches in the preseason or more importantly, make a 543 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: couple of special teams tackles a tight end. I'm keeping 544 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: Eric Ebron, Pat Fiarmouth, Zack Gentry. I guess it was 545 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: Wolf telling me that Gentry is shown up pretty well. 546 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: It looks like he maybe is take in the step forward. 547 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: He looks bigger, stronger. He doesn't look like a converted 548 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: quarterback anymore. Which is what he wasn't called tall skinny guy. 549 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: He's put on some weight, uh, some strength. Uh. They 550 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: did the one on one blocking drills with the with 551 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: the outside linebackers on Saturday, and I thought he doesn't 552 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: get embarrassed there, that's good. I thought he was the 553 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: best of the group. Firemouth. Firemouth did get tossed around 554 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: early he was going against high Smith, and then he 555 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: kind of picked it up a little bit and you know, 556 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily held his own there, but at least didn't 557 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: get embarrassed, didn't get embarrassed, didn't get tossed around. He's 558 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: he sealed the edge a couple of times against that 559 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: group of outside linebackers. If Gentry, Ebron and Friarmouth or 560 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: not getting embarrassed, that's a plus. Yeah, Ebron is still 561 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: sitting out practice. He had an elbow injury from the 562 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: first dampads. But and I want to hear Highsmith's embarrassing 563 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: tight ends. Yeah. Um, Kevin Raiders. I think the other 564 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: guy there that you look at, he's not been as 565 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: good as Gentry in this camp. He's had some drops. 566 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I just stick on the practice squad, But yeah, 567 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: you keep around just just because of that gentry is promising, though. 568 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be honest. When they made the pick, 569 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: I kind of was like, it feels like they're just 570 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: taking a tight end to take a tight end, because 571 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: I remember we were broadcasting there and there was a 572 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: handful of tight ends we liked that year, and they 573 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: all went a little earlier than we thought. There wasn't 574 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: time to grab one. But that's why you take a 575 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: project in the first four. In the fifth round might 576 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: take to three years, but that's what projects are had 577 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: the size that they you know, he wasn't one of 578 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: these guys. It was six three. You know, he's six right, 579 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: right right, I mean he's slow, he's there's there's something 580 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: there on the offensive line. This is where this was 581 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,239 Speaker 1: the toughest cut on offense because they got got they 582 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: got a lot. Well, we haven't seen the biggest thing 583 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: that they have here thus far, as we haven't seen 584 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: the starting group out there together, at least to presume 585 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: starting group. But that's chooks, a core for Kevin Dotson, 586 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: Kendrick Green, Trey Turner, Zack Banner left or right, you 587 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: have to right. I also I kept there y nine. 588 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: That's a little light, huh, Yeah, it's fine. They they've 589 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: kept eight in the past, they've kept ten. One year, 590 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: I think they kept eleven, which is gonna It's tough. 591 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: It's hard. Um. I'd like the flood the practice squad 592 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: with him, but I kept b J. Fenny. I think 593 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: he's pretty save. I kept Joe Haig, Yeah, I kept 594 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: Dan Moore. Yes, in my ninth guy, I'm keeping J. C. Coward. Huh. 595 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: My reasoning for that is I've got a rookie center 596 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: m hm, and so I want to keep two guys 597 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: who can snap the football behind the rookie center. But 598 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: Finney and hass and Hour both can play guard as well. 599 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: Hassing Hours like gentry bigger and he looks he looks 600 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: bigger and stronger this year than he did. Um. You know. 601 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: And I think because you have a rookie center there, 602 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt to have two guys who have done 603 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: it in his in his ear. And I'm sitting there 604 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: thinking if how does that depth chart work? If those 605 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: are the guys I have to work with, And I'm 606 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: especially thinking what if I lose a guard or two? Well, 607 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Haig can play guard. Even if you would hope that 608 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: Finny and Hoss and now are both play guards, So 609 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna have one of those. In particular, it seems 610 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: more like, so you're you're actives on game day. I 611 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: think are are Finney Hagen Hassin hour. Now you've got 612 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: two guys that play some more, doesn't You got two 613 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: guys to play center, three to play guard, and one 614 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: that plays tackle. You get more than that to play guard, 615 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: all three of them playing the backups. You're saying, yeah, no, 616 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: that's that's true. I guess there's some logic behind that. 617 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: And Moore is probably inactive on game days regardless, and 618 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: you're not gonna You're not gonna try to sneak him 619 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: one of the practice squad, but I think you can 620 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: get the other guys. I don't think anybody picks up 621 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: Hoss if you would try to sneak him on you 622 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: never know because we I mean, he does have NFL snaps. Yeah, 623 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: he started games in the league. So that's why to 624 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: say the coward might be someone might grab coward. But 625 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: he's only a guard. Yeah, I mean that's what it's 626 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: hurting him in in your eyes here, Yeah, right, he 627 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have that flexibility that the other guys do. I 628 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: might consider keeping him though over that sixth wide receiver eight. No, 629 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: I think he can get him on the practice squad, 630 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: and if somebody signs him away, so be it, so 631 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: be it. But I have I have the guys that 632 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: I I also considered. The were Anthony Coyle, another guy 633 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: who plays some center and has tackle and guard capability. 634 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: That's interesting. Coward and in Avante Collins. Okay, I'm interested 635 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: to watch Coil and Collins. Yeah, Collins, I think can 636 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: play some guard for you too. He's a tackle guard combo. 637 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: And you probably get most of them on the practice squard. Yeah, 638 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean teams are gonna usually they always lean towards 639 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: our own. Yeah, you have to really shine. Yeah, Kevin 640 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: Coward was a was a free agent this year and 641 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: Steelers signed him. I mean, with all respect, I mean, 642 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: I think, oh, line is not the position people are 643 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: trying to sneak, you know, snag stealers from. I wouldn't think, 644 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, you know, we say that. And Gerald Hawkins 645 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: got signed by the Patriots last week. There's another offensive 646 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: lineman that's the center. I'm trying to think Patrick. I 647 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: can't think of his last name now, but he gets 648 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: signed by the Titans. He was the center. Uh, he 649 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: was on their practice squad for a couple of years, 650 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: So it happens. But I just think that's a spot 651 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: where those those nine guys I think are all NFL players. 652 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: Harson Howard, you know him. I wasn't sure about that. 653 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: I think they like him better than a lot of people. 654 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: As you often say, we're allowed to get better. So 655 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: if Gentry and Hoss are one step further than when 656 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: I saw them last a year ago, now I'm interested. 657 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: You know, I've kind of wrote them both off, but 658 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: you don't do that in the real world. No, not 659 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: for sure. But let's take a break before we talk 660 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: about the defense. But that's the offense. There. He is 661 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on Dale Lawy. You're listening to the Drive 662 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back right after 663 00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: this your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black 664 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Alley 665 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson. We're trimming the Steelers roster, at 666 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: least looking at my effort to do so. I cut 667 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: down to the fifty three man roster on d K 668 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Sports dot Com. We're reading through who I went with, interesting, Yeah, 669 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: we're doing the defense now in the defensive line, real quick, 670 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: a couple of one little takeaway. I ran to get coffee. 671 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the offense while I was gone. 672 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: The bottom of the roster offense could use a little 673 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: work in terms of I don't love the bottom um 674 00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: running backs and receivers. And it doesn't mean I won't 675 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: love them a month from now, but I mean as 676 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: it sits right now. And I haven't been watching practice either, 677 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: so I don't know how good these dudes look. It's 678 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: not like, man, I want to keep all three of 679 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: them and I can't keep any It's more like, hopefully 680 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: you think you'll be a little surprised at receiver good. 681 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: Not to mention a fact. Their top four guys are 682 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: gonna be them. They don't need anybody to play. They 683 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: don't need anybody to play. Uh, the defensive line, it 684 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: was okay, I keep interrupting. Would you consider keeping four 685 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: tight ends? No, they're not four tight ends worth keeping. Okay, 686 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: you'll see I'm cutting good defensive players. This is not 687 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: this is that. This is not easy. Okay, especially you're 688 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: gonna see it here in the defensive line. Okay, yeah, 689 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: defensive lines, I'm keeping six, which they usually do. Heyward 690 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: lall to it, Louder Milk, Henry Man do yeah, Isaiah Bugs. 691 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: So you think it's a Davis Bugs battle. Maybe Man 692 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: do battle. I think Davis Bugs Mandu warmly, I mean jam. 693 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: But they keep seven. When it's all said and done, 694 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: you say that, but then wait until you see the 695 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: rest of the defense and you tell me who you'd 696 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: keep over, who you'd cut over some of these guys 697 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: because five receivers as as we're thinking now, Well, but 698 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: the guys play special teams special teams. That's the problem. 699 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: It's one of the Steelers small problems with the way 700 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: they do defensive lineman is it's hard to have since 701 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: they're all like plus, you only have six of them, 702 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: so only one guy kind of has a direct backup 703 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: and one is not active on game days. There's only 704 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: one of these guys who when their work. When Danny 705 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: Smith has as the group out there working on special teams, 706 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: he's out there on the cover, like running down to 707 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: cover kicks and that's he's out there blocking on the 708 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: kick returns, things like that. And he's been around, and 709 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: he's been around, and he's been running second team. Yeah, no, 710 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: I think he's got a better chance than Davis. I 711 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: mean I'm not just disrupting them or disputing the mon 712 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: you should make the theme or is very much in 713 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: the mix. I don't want to get rid of both 714 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 1: those dudes. Well, again, you get to expand a practice 715 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: squad if somebody, somebody signs those guys away, like, oh 716 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: my god, they lost the seventh round picking you know, 717 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: Carlos Davis. I mean they didn't get Warmly a huge 718 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: bonus or anything right now. Yeah, uh so, and again 719 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: maybe you slide him onto the practice squads. Both impossible. 720 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: I think it's I just haven't seen anything from him 721 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: as his boy. They gotta keep him. I don't even 722 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: know exactly where he fits, Like, he's not a nose 723 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: at all, and I don't think he's a traditional end 724 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: for them. I hope Louderman makes Warmly go away. Yeah so, yeah, 725 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a tough cut though, because 726 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: you get Davis. You got Warmly there that you're not 727 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna be keeping. But no, I hear where you're going 728 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: with that. Just that's that's where I'm at right now. Well, 729 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: that could change. I think that last spot between the 730 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: thing is between Bugs Wormley and Davis for ones for 731 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: one spot. Yeah, because I think louder Milk and one 732 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: do are making this problem this roster right right right. 733 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: The special team is saying that Mondu has going for 734 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: him is big, and he's played in the fair amount 735 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: and he played well last year. He's not bad. Right 736 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: outside linebacker, I'm only keeping four. I would do the same. 737 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: I think it's t J. Watt, Alex Highsmith, Melvin Ingram 738 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: and Jamir Jones, WHOA Okay, I have to learn more 739 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: about Jamira apparently five. He showed up in the backs 740 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: one backers. He showed up when they've done uh team stuff, 741 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: he showed up. He's a big, strong dude defensive end 742 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: at Notre Dame. Was with the Texans last year in 743 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: training camp, and I think I think Quincy Rochet it's 744 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: I think that's a tough that's a tough cut um. 745 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: But he's a six round draft pick and fell to 746 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: the sixth round for some reason. I don't know why, 747 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: but he did, and you try to slide him onto 748 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: the practice squad. I think Jamir Jones is the better 749 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: better He's a better player right now. If he's a 750 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: better player, then that's a easy enough situation. Again, I 751 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: know where in the numbers crunch should be nice to 752 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: keep a fifth you would keep I guess here's my question. 753 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: You'd keep from what you know right now? Rochet beats 754 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: out Marsh. Yeah, Marsh isn't even a consideration. Wowkay? I 755 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: mean Ingram kind of dug the grave from Marsha. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 756 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: fair enough. I'm keeping four inside linebackers, so we're keeping 757 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: eight backers. Devin Bush, Robert Splain, Ulysses, Gilbert, Buddy Johnson. Yeah, 758 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: the Marcus Allen experiment is over, and I'm fine with that. 759 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: Be Harry Evince was still around, it would be really 760 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: Harry Evince was still around, and then you're looking at 761 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: you know, and maybe that's what Vince was looking at, 762 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: like maybe he would have been fifth. They realized it. Yeah, 763 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, if if he's if Gilbert's healthy 764 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: and he's running a four or five around the field, 765 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: and you know realize, as the writings on the wall, 766 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: you need an injury to make the team, and probably 767 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: better to go out and say I'm retired and everyone 768 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: pat you on the back. He was a great step 769 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: talking about how great you were and then then go 770 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: through camp and get cut right, So maybe the writing 771 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: was on the wall. Buddy looked. I'm excited Aboutuddy. He 772 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: runs around like a madman. You see him show up 773 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: on some stuff. You know, that's his college tape. He 774 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: just needs some refinement. But I think he'll be great 775 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 1: on special teams. Yeah, I think I think Gilbert Gilbert 776 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 1: right now? Is there three? So that's promising. Yeah. Uh, 777 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: And the addition of Miles killer Brew makes uh makes 778 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: Marcus Allen redundant and Killerber is a better playing cornerback. 779 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm keeping six, and I can understand that today's NFL 780 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: you need six quarterbacks. Joe Hayden, Cam Sutton, James Pierre, 781 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: Antoine Brooks, Justin Lane, Arthur Millette. Yeah. I don't know 782 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: how you get rid of any of those guys. Yeah, okay, 783 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: I got no problem with that. I mean, I think 784 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a fair amount of dime with four 785 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: corners and those last four guys Pierre Brooks, Lane, Milette 786 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: or potentially some of your better special teams guys as well. 787 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: Do you think five would be active on game day? 788 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: More than likely? Yeah? So does that come down to 789 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: Lane verse Pierre, maybe Milette, maybe Lane versus Millette. Which 790 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: one is your better special teams guy that week? But 791 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: then the only I mean that your slot guy. Then 792 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: Sutton would have to go to the slot if Brooks 793 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 1: were to get injured. Let's not that's the one option 794 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: that you have there if something if one of your 795 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: if one of your outside corners goes down, um, and 796 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: and you only have three of those guys active. Now 797 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: you it's a little different, donaut of Sutton. Yeah, okay, yeah, 798 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean in Hayden Stiff, I think six corners is 799 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: what you want to hear of. I don't want to 800 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: get rid of any of these today's today's NFL, you 801 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: have to have six corner Brooks in your roster. You 802 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 1: just have to. The Bengals play through receivers like every snap, 803 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: and you're gonna see some four receiver stuff. Yeah. I 804 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 1: into Bills in Week one Little league with four receiver sets. Uh, safeties, 805 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm keeping four, okay, make it. Fitzpatrick, Terrell, Edmonds, Miles 806 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 1: Killerbru Trey Norwood good. That's a that's a nice no 807 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: assessment of Norwood. I think nor has been playing free 808 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: safety he's been backing up Fitzpatrick. He's made some plays 809 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: like the two with free Yeah, okay, yeah, and that 810 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: looks like his kind of role there. He can also 811 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: gives you the opportunity to at least line up a 812 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: cornerback once he learns that free safety position looking or so, 813 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: at least he gives you some options there as well. 814 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: Decent athletes. I me, there's something there to work with. 815 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: Cool who was your hardest cut there? It's safety. I 816 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 1: don't know that I really have one. Yeah, there's nobody 817 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: really jump jumping out there, and maybe you know, he 818 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: could say Alan Millette can play there though Brooks is 819 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: safety has safety safety. I mean, they have guys that 820 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: are dual capabilities there. Yeah, you can get out of 821 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: games with some of those dudes. Even Killer Brew could 822 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: go in and place them inside line backer potentially would 823 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: be like your dime linebacker. If something happens that you know, 824 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: if something happens with the cornerback position, Okay, we gotta 825 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: do this. Sutton has to stay on the outside, so 826 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: kill a bruise your dime linemaner instead. Yeah. I mean 827 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: there's been times they've kept four inside or five inside backers. 828 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: But killer brew gives them a nice fall body, right, 829 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: the specialists, I'm keeping Boswell, Yes, Pressley Harvin is the punter, 830 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: and Cameron Candidate is a long snapper. A real Yeah, 831 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: that adds up to fifty three. Now, you tell me 832 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: where you're you're you're stealing a spot somewhere else to 833 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: keep a tenth lineman or you know those kind of thing. 834 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: It's just the seventh defensive lineman. There's there's not much 835 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: there to that you can fudge the guys you cut 836 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: the ones. I'd be most interested in keeping our Rochet 837 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: Coward or one of the two defensive linemen. But besides Rochet, 838 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: you don't get much special team's value out of those dudes. 839 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: And the only spot I'd consider, you know, losing a 840 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: guy from yours is the sixth receiver. Yeah, I mean 841 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: to me that that's the that's the only spot. That's 842 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: the only spot you can't kind of running back. I mean, 843 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: there's nowhere else. There's no give anywhere else unless you 844 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: keep two quarterbacks. But I don't want to flush there 845 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: were a three quarterback team that they were three quarterbacks. 846 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: They believe in that they're not going to go with 847 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. Even with a huge practice squad doesn't matter, 848 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: and they're not ones. You have to expose that guy 849 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: to Waivers and be Haskins, and I don't want someone 850 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: to pick him up. I mean, if you're the Texans, 851 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: why wouldn't pick up taskets? Absolutely right right now, the 852 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: Colts right now. I mean a ton of teams really, 853 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't want to expose unless he's terrible, right, 854 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: there's lots of them, so yeah, I mean I got 855 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: no qualms. I mean, if I were building it, my 856 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: only consideration where I keep five receivers or six, because 857 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: as you said that six receivers never gonna see the offense. 858 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: And really, Ray Ray might be the six guy in 859 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: my mind as opposed to the young special team or 860 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: the tackles people, because Ray Way does tackle anybody. The 861 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: only the only thing that Ray Ray is your punt 862 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: return guy. If McFarland shows that he can be your 863 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,399 Speaker 1: punt return guy, then he's then Ray Rays in trouble. Yeah, 864 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 1: there anyone else that can do it. I mean Sutton has, 865 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: but Sutton and Minca have. You know, I don't want that. 866 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 1: That's not happened. That's not happened. None of the receivers 867 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: are really built to do it, you know what Claypool 868 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: to do. I mean there's some kick returners, but yeah, 869 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: I guess that's Ray Rays. He's holding onto. Yeah, that's 870 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: his nitch right now. And if if McFarland shows that 871 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: he can do it and do it in the games, 872 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: that's something to keep an eye on in the in 873 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: these preseason games because they'll gi him a chance. Now. 874 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 1: I bet he's catching points, you know, in games for sure. 875 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: That's interesting. So yeah, what about I'm sorry that this 876 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: some of those six receivers that you considered that weren't 877 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: Ray Ray. Can any of them return punts? Yeah? I 878 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: mean they're not just gunner types. No, they're not just 879 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: gunner types. And Sexton is the guy to keep an 880 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: eye on there for that. Um really fast, um, a 881 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 1: little bit bigger than Ray Ray. Um, you know there's 882 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: some potential there for that. They'd be nice if that 883 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: fifth guy could do all the above, right, I'm not 884 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: sure because Ray Ray can't know. He's just too small. 885 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: He's too small. And every time, like I've watched him, 886 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: they tried to use him in some four receiver sets. 887 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: Is a blocker that doesn't work any play that calls 888 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: for him to do that as a mistake. And when 889 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: he's on the field sometime you're gonna run the football 890 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: and he's gonna help you. I might as well be 891 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: standing there, right. He might be better off I take 892 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: it more space, but at least they have to run 893 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,919 Speaker 1: around you. Now, that's a good group and subject to change, 894 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: of course. Unfortunately, two of those guys will get hurt. 895 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: That's sixth receiver spot, as I said when we went 896 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: through it in the previous segment, is the one that 897 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: you know I'm just guessing there, right, Yeah, but tom 898 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 1: on talking about Tyler Simmons is a gunner again. We 899 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: when we talked about the cornerback position. Well, if you 900 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: don't want Lane and Pierre as your gunners, or if 901 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 1: both aren't active on that, somebody's gotta be the gunner, 902 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, which brings us back to the coach Smith's dilemma. Well, 903 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you this guy this week and then 904 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: this week. I mean, the gunners are important position, and 905 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: if somebody shows that they're really good at it, he 906 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: has to he's got to be active. You gotta give 907 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 1: the special team's coach that at least from that phone, 908 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: but then you're short somewhere else. Yeah. Interesting, But if 909 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: it was not, it's not as easy as I thought 910 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 1: it might be. I bet not. Offensive line was tough. 911 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: Defensive line was really tough. M I bet a difficult exercise. 912 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,919 Speaker 1: And it's too early in camp to even consider it. 913 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: Filling out that practice squad might not be sixteen guys. 914 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: I can get sixteen guys pretty right, But it's you're 915 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: excited about sixteen guys. You never I'm never excited. I 916 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: don't get excited about the practice squad. I think people 917 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: getting way too over practice. People got way too excited 918 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: about the practice. People you get too excited about. They 919 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 1: do it in the practice so that they can have practice. 920 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: So I can you know, I can tell you what 921 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: the numbers are going to be. There's gonna be a 922 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: receiver and gonna be you off an extra offensive line 923 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. So they have enough to 924 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,280 Speaker 1: fill out two groups of these type of bodies, probably 925 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: too offensive line, and of those, what two or three 926 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: of them will go into a NFL career. Yeah, you know, 927 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: it's really that's the way it's the way it is. 928 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: You're not developing a lot of guys and may that 929 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: kind of guarantee them they'll come to camp next year 930 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: and then they'll get cut. We're gonna take another break here. 931 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for the first hour here of 932 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: the drive. He is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lali. 933 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this