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Speaker 4: That was a crazy race. It's worth watching the race

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Speaker 2: Chair shall see? Oh my goodness, we went car racing,

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Speaker 2: long and you maybe it's not done even this season.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll look ahead, of course, to next season. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, short offseason because they do their offseason in the

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Speaker 4: Silly season where yeah, evers are moving around. They call

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Speaker 4: it all right, well, fun Monday show. You guys know

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Speaker 4: how we do it.

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Speaker 2: Winners and losers of the NBA Weekend. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: everybody here in the stream. Team Kevin Durant is a

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Speaker 2: winner of the weekend. He scored an NBA season, had

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Speaker 2: fifty one points against the Detroit Pistons one sixteen, one

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Speaker 2: to four victory. It came in. He was unstoppable looking.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he scored from all over the floor, is

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Speaker 2: what Katie does He had six shots at the rim,

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Speaker 2: That's some honesty right there. Yeah, I knew. And he

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Speaker 2: He bested Blake Griffin's fifty in twenty eighteen, Kyrie Irvings

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it looked last not especially like you know, like

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Speaker 5: let's be serious. A little bit the same what happened

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Speaker 5: of looks down at him, and says like Trey, I

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I just this is what I do. I'm Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 5: He hasn't been shooting a three point all that well

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Speaker 5: Kevin Durant, pretty good player. I think Steph Curry remains

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Speaker 5: the MVP favorite for this season and yann is probably second.

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Speaker 5: But more games like this here from Kevin Durant, He's

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Speaker 5: by his standards, I don't think he's had one of

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Speaker 5: He talks a bit of trash to the crowd. He

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Speaker 5: goes back to his thunder days. He knows exactly what

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Speaker 5: his box score is. Don't ever question that with Kevin Durant. So, yeah,

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Speaker 5: another fantastic performance. He's so silky smooth to watch, and

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Speaker 5: it's good to see sort of evil Kevin Durant just

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was the seventh fifty point game of Katie's career.

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Speaker 2: Quick Trivia time since he entered the league. Only four

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Speaker 2: the seven. Can you guys name them? James Harry, Harden, Lellard, Curry, Harden,

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Speaker 2: Lillard one more, Jehannus no fifty, Lebron more than Lebron

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he has good He had a little passer in

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Speaker 4: my book, but I guess it can score as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a little surprising Lebron's on there.

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Speaker 2: the league. Anything to add from that performance task that

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Speaker 2: we saw there really both games from Durant, what he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Durant with James Harden sitting drinking that smoothie on

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Speaker 3: the sideline, had to take over for this Brooklyn Nets team.

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Speaker 3: It was reminiscent of what he did to the Bucks

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Speaker 3: Curry's fifty point season high this season. Curry had the

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Speaker 3: if Kad knew that when he was dropping that bucket

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Speaker 3: But I just find it very tasty, very delectable that

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Speaker 3: we've got Kevin Durant in one conference, his former teammate

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Speaker 3: in the finals. Obviously Yannis has to say something about that,

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Speaker 3: but you know, when you watch Kevin Durant and you

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Speaker 3: anything on the floor. I don't want to get into

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Speaker 3: this first take debate, but who do you take as

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Speaker 3: would you take him over Curry and Yannis? I mean

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Speaker 3: it's debatable, and then you even forget about Lebron. Actually,

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Speaker 3: Lebron obviously hasn't had a great season, but I think

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Speaker 3: he's a winner of the weekend because the man can sleep.

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Speaker 3: The man can sleep a lot. He said before his

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Speaker 3: a winner to be able to do that. But it

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Speaker 3: half hour window. He said. He slept twelve to eight,

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Speaker 3: got up normal hour eight am, he had breakfast, and

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Speaker 3: twelve thirty. He's left a lot of respect. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: but impressive stuff. Dave McMahon reported that on ESPN he's

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Speaker 3: it basically was Lebron has a great game due to sleep.

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Speaker 3: So amazing, amazing stuff from Lebron. I know he'll be

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Speaker 3: there in the end. He's chilling right now. But you know,

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Speaker 3: and them, you know, it seems like they're trains headed

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Speaker 3: with him on the leaderboard now fifty one and Steph

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Speaker 3: with fifty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lebron did have thirty eleven and ten three blocks.

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Speaker 2: He shot well against the magic like test sat on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yokich also like he's in this conversation for an MVP

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Speaker 2: race early on thirty five, seventeen and eight in a

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Speaker 2: revenge win over the Spurs. That's pretty good. And then

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Speaker 2: Yannis you slipped his name in there. He averaged the

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Speaker 2: Greek freak did in two road games this weekend thirty

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Speaker 2: and a half points, thirteen and a half rebounds, eight assists,

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Speaker 2: pretty good weekend there for the stars of this league.

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Speaker 3: Tree Kerby, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know if you have anything to add to either

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Speaker 2: the fifty one.

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Speaker 4: I just like that Kevin Durant scored as many points

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Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter as the entire Detroit Pistons team did,

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Speaker 4: thirteen to thirteen for Katie, and it was takeover mode.

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Speaker 4: And like Lee mentioned, he's playing defense as well.

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Speaker 2: The guy is all over the court.

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Speaker 4: Fifty one points, that's almost expected from Kevin Durant, Like, whoa,

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Speaker 4: you didn't have a fifty point game yet this season.

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Speaker 3: The Cleveland Cavaliers.

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Speaker 3: This Cavs team. Man, So you don't want to play

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Speaker 4: I one hundred percent would trade Colin Sexton to try

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Speaker 3: usually happens. I mean the Hawks example is a good one.

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00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 3: The Skeets where a team wins a couple of games,

430
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 3: it gets to the playoffs, and then eventually wins a

431
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 3: playoff series. And they got probably a little bit lucky

432
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,199
Speaker 3: with the Sixers situation in the second round, but they

433
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 3: took advantage of that and they went to the conference

434
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 3: files there. Yeah, there are steps in this league. You

435
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 3: don't just go to be a championship team. And also

436
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 3: Matthews comment an extra one here that he threw in haha,

437
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 3: Calves as good as the Sixers. Yes, right now, I

438
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 3: think the Calves legitimately as good as the Philadelphia seventy

439
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 3: six ers. They're a solid basketball team, and it Tray

440
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 3: brings up a good point. They're not incredible against the

441
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 3: great teams because sometimes they're not, you know, great in

442
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 3: the last couple minutes. Sometimes they they're feeling it out.

443
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 3: But that's a good problem to have. I mean, they're

444
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 3: just getting better. So yeah, I think making the playoffs.

445
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 3: Winning a series is probably the peak. In a dream world.

446
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 3: Winning a series is great, but I don't care. I

447
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 3: think they can play with the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

448
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Trey, Who do you have for winner

449
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 2: of the weekend?

450
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 4: I got the Memphis Grizzlies. They won one game over

451
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 4: the weekend. They beat the Rockets. Pretty easy win for Memphis.

452
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 4: They trailed one to zero and then led the entire

453
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 4: way after that ended up being a seven point victory.

454
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 4: Got a little dicey at the end, but no problem

455
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 4: for the Grizzlies. No Jah Moran, of course, No Jared

456
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 4: Jackson Junior a late scratch. Steven Adams didn't play in

457
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 4: the second half, but the grizz had enough. Thanks to

458
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 4: the double dbs of Dylan Brooks twenty five points in

459
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 4: Desmond Baine, adding nineteen some dude named Killian Tilly had

460
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 4: twelve points and three threes. I was just getting used

461
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 4: to John Conchar running around out there. Now there's Killian

462
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 4: Tilly in the mix. Crazy stuff. But the real reason

463
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 4: the Grizzlies are the winner this weekend is because this

464
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 4: came on Zach randolph jersey retirement Night, or as they

465
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 4: were calling.

466
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: It, Fitty for the City.

467
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 4: Zebo's number fifty became the first retired number in Grizzly's

468
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 4: franchise history, and because it's Memphis, they gave him a

469
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 4: platinum record plaque, which I thought was cool, And even

470
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 4: his jersey banner is a platinum record, paying tribute to

471
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 4: the musical legacy down there in Memphis, the home of

472
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 4: Stax Records, the home of Sun Records, and of course

473
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 4: the setting for two thousand and five's Hustle and Flow,

474
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 4: which means that Zach Randolph became the first NBA player

475
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 4: to have his jersey retired while being serenaded with Whoop

476
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 4: that trick, Whooped that trick. They're just screaming whoop that trick?

477
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 4: As they're unveiling his jersey. Incredible stuff for the Grizzlies,

478
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 4: But Zach Randolph eight seasons in Memphis put up sixteen

479
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 4: to ten, one of the defining players of the Grit

480
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 4: and Grind era, A super unique guy. I don't think

481
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 4: we've seen another Zach Randolph since we've Zach Randolph, and

482
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 4: the idea of him getting his jersey retired, it definitely

483
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 4: makes sense to us now in hindsight. But if you

484
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 4: told anybody when Zach Randolph got to the Grizzlies after

485
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 4: his time in Portland and especially with the Knicks and

486
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 4: the Lakers, that he was gonna have his jersey retired,

487
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: no chance they believe you. But this guy really turned

488
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 4: the franchise around. Marc Gasol and Mike Conley were already

489
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 4: there when Zebo showed up after the eight to nine season,

490
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 4: just twenty four wins for Conley and Gasol because they

491
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 4: were really young early in their career. Zebo shows up

492
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: as a veteran, really legitimizes the team. They jet up

493
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: to forty wins in his first season and the next

494
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 4: year forty six wins for Memphis their first playoff appearance

495
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: since the Power. Gasol era, and most importantly, their first

496
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 4: playoff series win, the eighth seed Grizzlies upsetting the one

497
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 4: seed Spurs. I went back and watched some of these highlights.

498
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 4: Zach Randolph incredible in the game six close out, thirty

499
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: one points, eleven rebounds, seventeen in the fourth and it's

500
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 4: only on Zach Randolph shots dinkers and dumpers like ridiculous

501
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 4: fade away mid range jumpers over Antonio mcdce, San Antonio mcdce,

502
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 4: if you will. So seemed like a fun night for

503
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 4: the Grizzlies. They got the W on the court, got

504
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 4: the W up and the raptors whoop that trick, guys, Yeah,

505
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 4: just went and down look that trick.

506
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little slip of the tongue there. I think

507
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: you said Lakers. You obviously met the Clippers. He played

508
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: for the Clippers. Yeah, he had the LA team run there.

509
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: But I thought the exact same thing trade that, So

510
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: it crossed my mind watching it. I was like, Wow,

511
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 2: what a crazy career, Like just the two halves of

512
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 2: his career where he was putting up numbers in Portland,

513
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: you know, the jail Blazers era and all that, or

514
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: at the end and then Yeah, the Knicks where he

515
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: had like, you know, one of the worst whoopsies of

516
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: all time. It would just be fun of over and

517
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 2: over and over again. Yeah, the little brief stint with

518
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: their clippers, but then yeah, rejuvenated and the city just

519
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 2: fell in love with them. Tasks. Uh, they're just like

520
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: so linked Zach randofs Ebo and the City of Memphis.

521
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: So I was I was damn near in tears watching

522
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: I guess I was. I was up in the cottage.

523
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: It was Sunday morning, it was rainy, I was getting

524
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: ready to leave, and I'm watching bed because I didn't

525
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 2: catch the night of the retirement. Watching the clips and

526
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 2: the highlights, I'm like, oh, this is this is cool.

527
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: That was very happy for obviously ze Bo and then

528
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: for that for that franchise. I think he's a great

529
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: first person too in that franchise to be sort of honored.

530
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: So it is amazing. I think that's where every Canadian

531
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: man cries, goes up to the cabin or goes up

532
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 3: to the cottage. Things get a little emotional. Yeah yeah,

533
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: maybe the Tragically hip starts playing and you start watching

534
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: Zach Randolph's retirement ceremony. It's uh, it's a wild story

535
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: when he got to Memphis fourth team in four years

536
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: and then I mean, this shows why you go for

537
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: it if sometimes things just come together. I know that

538
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: this team, you know, it wasn't it wasn't all the

539
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: way there to win a championship. It wasn't close, but

540
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 3: they got to a conference finals and you remember this

541
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: team because of everything that sort of came together.

542
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: It is.

543
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: It is wild. And yeah, hearing whooped that trick was

544
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: a little emotional. I'm with you, Keys, I'm almost a

545
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: little emotional.

546
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: That touching any I'm not talking about the dinkers and

547
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: the dumpers and the jump shots he's hitting. That's making

548
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: me fine, Griz. There's all these clips of other players,

549
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: of course talking about him, but then there's a million

550
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: clips of him out in the community, like and there's

551
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 2: I forget who says it. Somebody is like I thought

552
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: my dad was like the realist person in the world

553
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: or something like that. It's like, but it might be

554
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: Zach random like just how he can again, I'm drawing

555
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: a blank on who said that he's something in the

556
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: stream team and like the videos like holy what a compliment,

557
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: and like you know, Patch with all these like just

558
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: he just seems like such a lovable guy. And uh,

559
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: you know, he did seem to have like a word

560
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: for everyone he ever met, be it like the millionaire owner,

561
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: a guy that owns this business, or like, you know,

562
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: just a just a kid that's at one of these events.

563
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: So I was pretty cool.

564
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm not sure if I want to cry

565
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: tears of joy or tears of pain when I think

566
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 3: that the Vancouver Grizzlies, the original Memphis Grizzlies, came into

567
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 3: the league the same year as the Toronto Raptors and

568
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 3: they were retiring a number before the Toronto Raptors. Kind

569
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: of surprising to me when you think about the run

570
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: that they went down to Memphis, and yeah, the paw

571
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: Gasol era, as Trey said, you know, the Hubie Brown era.

572
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: It's a wild, long run to get to the grit

573
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: and grind and one Conference finals and then the John

574
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: Holland ger era as everybody calls it with him in

575
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 3: the front office. But they it's just it's just an

576
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 3: incredible story, an incredible team that we will always remember.

577
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: And I remember when they were up to one against

578
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: the Golden State Warriors in that twenty fifteen playoffs when

579
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 3: the Warriors won their first title. It was the second round,

580
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: and I've told this story before, but I'll tell it again.

581
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: They're up to one, and it felt like the entire

582
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: league was wide open at that point because the Warriors

583
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: hadn't won championship. This was the first one. And I

584
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: remember Ernie Johnson coming into the clubhouse there or the

585
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: starters were doing their work. We didn't have an office.

586
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: We just kind of hung out and so it's called

587
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: the love House. And Ernie Johnson came in and sai,

588
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: who's going to win the title, and we all said

589
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: nobody knew, yeah, and and it just felt like the

590
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: Grizzlies had a shot there. And then the Warriors figured

591
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: out the grit and grind when they were you know,

592
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 3: grinding all over stuff there on the perimeter and stuff

593
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: kind of found himself and and figured it out. But

594
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: that was I don't know, those couple of years, and

595
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: they got to the conference finals. The league was wide

596
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: open and they went for it. And that was that

597
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: was our fun little era there. And yeah, it's nice.

598
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: It was. It was very nice. And Zach Ranoff always

599
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: gave us one of his great quotes. If you if

600
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: you remember the starter's days. We asked him what Olympic

601
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: sport he would like to partake in. He said, oh,

602
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: I like to be doing them skians, Skians.

603
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: Anything to add to the z bo in the retirement

604
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: there and what they did.

605
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a big, lovable teddy bear. Really wasn't easy,

606
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: both because he used to like to bang. But sometimes

607
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 5: when things would get a bit physical and there were

608
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 5: foul bey caught and maybe there's some tension between him

609
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 5: and his opponent, it just put out his big hands

610
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 5: and give you a big hug and it just like,

611
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 5: you know, break the tension right there.

612
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: And that was the thing about it.

613
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 5: I wanted to get one of those big hugs of

614
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 5: z Bakes. They always had a big smile on his face.

615
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 5: And when you think about his game, you know, especially

616
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 5: there in Memphis, you know he was slow, you know,

617
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 5: almost like Kyle Anderson there. He was slow, but he

618
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 5: could get to his point and he had that little

619
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 5: mid range jumper that you're like everyone can see it coming.

620
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 5: He's not out jumping his opponents. He's not long like

621
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant, but he had an ability to just get

622
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 5: that shot off over defenders. And knock it in and

623
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 5: it was incredibly consistent. So yeah, very happy to see

624
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 5: him there. And when Marcus Ol turned up, that's when

625
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 5: I got a bit teary skeets. I'm like, oh, they're

626
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 5: bringing back the whole.

627
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: Band, you know.

628
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, watched this clip.

629
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Speaker 5: Yeah, get Lionel Hollins there and and well Conley I

630
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 5: guess couldn't make it. He had something to do. But yeah,

631
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 5: if all those guys got back together, it'd be hard

632
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 5: to not get a little bit of a.

633
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: Bit dusty in the room, if you like. And I

634
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: think I think the correct me If I'm wrong, Tony

635
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: Allen is also getting the uh yeah, the jersey retirement

636
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: later this season, so that to look forward to. I

637
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: can't wait to cry again when when the Grindfather himself

638
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: is going up in the round so try. Do you

639
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: think they're gonna stick with the record like sort of motif,

640
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: I guess in place of a jersey, right, I think

641
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: they would. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I thought it was

642
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: a really different sort of spin on things.

643
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Speaker 4: It looks like a platinum record plat Oh wow, man,

644
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: barsook that Trip remix please?

645
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought that was cool. I was I

646
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: definitely wasn't expecting it.

647
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 4: You know, they gave him the plaque first and then

648
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 4: they unveiled the banner hanging.

649
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. Something different. It's

650
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: usually just the jersey.

651
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 4: Remember when the Lakers put shafts up there and it

652
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: was backwards and made it look like the front of

653
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: his jersey was supposed to be the back.

654
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: This is better than that. And I don't know, I

655
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: don't know.

656
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 4: If there's any other any other banners that are hanging

657
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: that are similar to this, where it kind of like

658
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: plays on a theme from the city. I know the

659
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: retired numbers are not like this. The Lakers obviously aren't

660
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: like this. So yeah, pretty cool.

661
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: Yep, Lee, What do you got for a winner of

662
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: the weekend?

663
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 5: Well, the team that is just quietly going about its business,

664
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 5: the Utah Jazz, only had one game over the weekend,

665
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: Saturday night at Washington, but I'm bringing them up because

666
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 5: it wrapped up a very impressive four game road streak.

667
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 5: The last three wins came by combined seventy nine points.

668
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 5: They've won seven in a row, still only third in

669
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 5: the West. Obviously, the Suns and the Warriors have been great,

670
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 5: so far to start the season. But the Jazz, you know,

671
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: they're just doing their stuff in the regular season here

672
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: murdering their opponents at both ends. They have the best

673
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 5: offensive rating in the league, only six in defense. But

674
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 5: you know, I believe a part of that is because

675
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 5: they're winning games pretty comfortably. So there's a lot of

676
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 5: sort of extra garbage time points, which is sort of

677
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 5: you know, just making it look a little worse than

678
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 5: it is because during the game, you know, the Jazz

679
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: just what they do at one end, they prevent the

680
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 5: other team doing at the other end. And some of

681
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 5: their stats like fast break points, points in the paint,

682
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 5: points off turnovers, the Jazz are only middle of the pack.

683
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 5: But the reson and I bring that up is just

684
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 5: to show how hard it is to scout against the team.

685
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 5: They don't have that, you know, one major strength that

686
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 5: you can game plan against to slow them down. The

687
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 5: Jazz just wear you down by playing the way that

688
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 5: they play. The tons of weapons, lots of different ways

689
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 5: to score great bench defend really well, so finding their

690
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 5: weakness is pretty difficult. Right now in Hassan Whiteside again

691
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 5: coming off the bench, another double double in this game,

692
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 5: like if you're getting that sort of production out of

693
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 5: Hassan Whiteside that is found money for me, because obviously

694
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 5: Rudy's fantastic, but to get but the secondary backup, a

695
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 5: guy who can go out there and just play that

696
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 5: role in those minutes is incredibly fortuous, I think for

697
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 5: the Jazz to get that out of Whitesided, guy who

698
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 5: has had effort issues throughout his career. So they're just

699
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 5: playing really well, and now they've got a big home

700
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 5: streak as well, where they could this seven game win

701
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 5: streak could easily be in the teams here. They've got

702
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 5: a lot of winnable games. They're healthy, they're the one

703
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 5: team that seems to have avoided any real coronavirus or

704
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 5: COVID protocols right now. They don't seem to have any weaknesses,

705
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 5: and they've you know, we've seen this before from them,

706
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 5: of course in the regular season. I know we talk

707
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 5: playoffs of them, but it's still very impressive that they

708
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 5: just go out there and dominate their opponents pretty much

709
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 5: from start to finish. They've been certainly doing that recently,

710
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 5: and so they deserve some love, even though we tend

711
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 5: to overlook them a lot.

712
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: Yep's great I just slipped them in there for a

713
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: winner of the weekend. Definitely. What's your prediction? How many

714
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: games are going to win in a row?

715
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 5: Here?

716
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

717
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 5: I mean, so, what's eighteen is the record from the Suns.

718
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 5: It's like, if you look at that schedule they have,

719
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 5: they could win all of them. They could be up

720
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 5: to fourteen or fifteen. But just because it's the NBA,

721
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 5: I think it gets to like about thirteen and then

722
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: someone sneaks up and gets the victory. But yeah, they're

723
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 5: looking very very good right now.

724
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: Final winner of the weekend before we take our first

725
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: break and get to the losers, the seventy six ers,

726
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: Matisse Staible and maybe Knicks fans, Huh, I'm going to

727
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: all lump together for a winner of the weekend. Here's

728
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 2: why Saturday and beat twenty six and nine seventy six ers.

729
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: They delayed Steph Curry's bid to break Ray Allen's career

730
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: three point record in the one O two ninety three

731
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: victory over the Warriors. Really really nice win from Philly here,

732
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: and Curry was like kept in check, you know, shut down.

733
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: People are throwing out there by about thirty five thirty

734
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: six minutes by matist Thibel, who made just his sixth

735
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: start of the season. But he did a great job

736
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: defensively as well as you can, Kerr said. He said,

737
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: that's as good as job on Steph as anybody I've

738
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 2: seen in a long time. So high praise there from Kerr,

739
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 2: and we know that he's a great defensi player. Bible

740
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: is Curry six to twenty from the floor, three of

741
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: fourteen from three point range. Thible the first player to

742
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 2: block multiple three point attempts by Curry in a single

743
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: game in his NBA career to how long that guy

744
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: is so good victory from the Sixers. Great job from Thibel,

745
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: you know, getting some praiser over the weekend in containing

746
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: Curry and keeping him from breaking Ray Allen's record. And

747
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: then I say, Knicks fans, because he hasn't done it yet. Curry,

748
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: he played the Warriors played tonight in Indiana. Now, I

749
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: don't know if we've had breaking news throughout the show here,

750
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: but he's still up in the air whether or not

751
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: Steph Curry's gonna play in this game. They might rest him,

752
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: you know, just give him a break here, and then

753
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: if that's the case, even if he does play, he

754
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: still needs seven to surpass Ryald. I mean it's Curry,

755
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: so we make that seem like it's nothing a decent amount.

756
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: The next game would be MSG on Tuesday Night Tasks

757
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: and there, whether he plays tonight or not, pretty good

758
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: chance Steph Curry could actually set the record in MSG.

759
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: It would be great for the Knicks fans who are

760
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: unfortunately getting some losses here. But wow, what a show

761
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: that would be.

762
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: It was strange to hear Steph go up to the

763
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: podium after that loss to the Sixers and start discussing

764
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: whether or not he was going to rest, and he

765
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: was asked about it, so he had the sort of

766
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: answer and he kind of said, you know, we will

767
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: do what is appropriate. And so he left that door open,

768
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: right And we actually have a fan. His name is

769
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: John let and he emailed in and said, I live

770
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: by Indiana, used to be a season ticket holder. Guys

771
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: come through here and sit all the time. I could

772
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: drive there on Monday night. I have the possibility of

773
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: going to the game, and I know that as soon

774
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: as I get in the car, they're gonna say Steph's

775
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 3: not playing tonight. In this possibility, it sure felt like

776
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: he was leaving the door open to play Tuesday night. Right.

777
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if I was reading into those comments,

778
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: but I don't know if he wants to do an MSG,

779
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: but there's definitely I feel like he's sitting. I feel

780
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: like he's sitting tonight.

781
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 4: Steve Kerr said he expects everybody to play Monday at

782
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: Indiana per Mark Stein yesterday, and honestly, he should.

783
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 2: Play in Indiana.

784
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: It's the one time the Warriors go there, and you know,

785
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 4: that's kind of the ask from the league is that

786
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: if you're going to rest rest at home, I mean,

787
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 4: it's Larry Bird could be around Reggie Miller, a legendary pacer,

788
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 4: ray all and maybe he'll fly in. I'm just impressed

789
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: that anybody cares about the three point record. That's how

790
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 4: impressive Steph Curry is. Nobody cared when Rayel and broke

791
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: Reggie Miller's record. But this has been a story for

792
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: a week now.

793
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: It was not a week long.

794
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 4: It wasn't as big as this ray Allen now, but

795
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 4: now we're like, we gotta fly everybody in. Everybody's got

796
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: to see this. Should he do it in Madison Square Garden?

797
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: A lot of thought is going into this, just go

798
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 4: out and play man.

799
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I think it's in his head.

800
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: He's trying to get a record every single night he's

801
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: out there. We're like, you got to make sixteen in

802
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: the game, let's see it. Just go play and you'll

803
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: easily hit seven if you play in the flow of things.

804
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's had some rough shooting nights here, Leale, and

805
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: you have to think maybe like this chasing of the

806
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: record here is having some effect. Oh, I know again,

807
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: I want to give credit to Fible and six Ers

808
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: defense and how they played him, but he was just

809
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: missing shots that he also hits. So does he play

810
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: to night Maybe that's the best case scenario. He plays

811
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: in Indiana Pacers fans good to see him the one

812
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: time they come through and he only hits I don't know, four, five,

813
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: something like that, and then plays an MSG which would

814
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: be on TNT.

815
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: I believe.

816
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: I'm guessing the Knicks Warriors game is one of their

817
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: headliners there on Tuesday nights. Somebody can fact check me

818
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: if you want, and then he could possibly break it there.

819
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: Then it's a win win for everybody.

820
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think, of course Steph could hit seven if

821
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 5: he needed them. In Madison, Square Garden. But I think, yes,

822
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 5: I think he wants to. He should take a little

823
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: bit of the pressure off himself and just get out there.

824
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 5: And however, many hits tonight, so then he's only got

825
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: to hit maybe two or three in Madison Square Garden.

826
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 5: There's no question it was a distraction on Saturday night

827
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 5: because every time he touched the ball, it was like,

828
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 5: is he going to shoot? He hit two that didn't count,

829
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 5: highlights that weren't in fact, and two of them were

830
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 5: great bombs as well, and then the three that he

831
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: did hit. Certainly the first two were tough, just because

832
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 5: everyone was just so focused on him out there at

833
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 5: the three point line and the Sixers winning that game.

834
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 5: I think it certainly was impacted by the fact that

835
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 5: there was so much attention being put on this record

836
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 5: here from Steph. So yeah, if I'm the Warriors, I'm

837
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 5: just like, just play to night man, just play. We

838
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 5: don't need way more attention going into tomorrow night. Hopefully,

839
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 5: potentially he only he's one or two and he can

840
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 5: do that in the first quarter and then the record's

841
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 5: done and then they can move on. But yeah, the

842
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 5: thing is Steph's probably going to be a thousand clear

843
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 5: by the time he reties, of certainly of Ray Allen,

844
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 5: I mean, Clay Thompson, Harden and those guys will be

845
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 5: closer to him. But it's one of those weird things.

846
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 5: It's like this record, there's going to be so much

847
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 5: distance between Ray Allen and Steph Curry when Steph eventually

848
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 5: retires that Ray Alan could be like twenty fifth on

849
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 5: the old time makes by the time it really could be.

850
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 5: I mean, Cole Cork is still fourth right now, which

851
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 5: is like wow, you know. So yeah, it's a silly

852
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: little distraction. And the fact that word has lost the game,

853
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 5: I think was a big part of that. Yep, all right,

854
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 5: we're going to tell you our first break. When we

855
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: come back, we will get into losers of the NBA weekend.

856
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 5: I just love to picture like the Helix boardroom, you know,

857
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 5: sitting around the table saying, all right, well, let's see

858
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 5: let's go through some of the ad reads we got,

859
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 5: let's fire them up. Let's see how they're selling our mattresses.

860
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 5: And then you know, I assume they're gonna be talking

861
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: about the fuel of the mattress, how amazing it is

862
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 5: to get it delivered, how easy it is to return

863
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: it if you know what it And then they play

864
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 5: your clip and here's.

865
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: Task talking about the owner how much he enjoys it.

866
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: To be like, wow, we didn't do that angle uh

867
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: into the smell of our mattresses, but this guy seems

868
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: to really like it. Yeah.

869
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: I hope they're listening because this is a great idea

870
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 4: from the dream Shake. They need to make a candle

871
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: of this new mattress. Mattress but uh, you could put

872
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: Lee's blurb. I would love to take my Heelix sleep

873
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: mattress with me the next time I'm on the beach vacation.

874
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: Yea, up right quick?

875
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 5: Well you know, I mean, well you can't really reroll

876
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 5: it and then put it as a uh.

877
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 3: Well it's been rolled before.

878
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 2: But once it's out, once it's not a vacuum seal.

879
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've got a.

880
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 3: Vacuum press it as well. Yeah, but they have those

881
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: those machines at the airport wrap.

882
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 5: It's once you unroll it though on phill and it's

883
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 5: just hot to get again.

884
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 2: I love the concept you showing up at the hotel

885
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: them seeing you bringing your own mattress. They must go like, wow,

886
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: this guy must have back problems. He takes this really seriously,

887
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: and then they find out you brought it because you

888
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: like the smell of it and the company the second smell.

889
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: Anyways, Yeah, I was. I was imagining the execs as

890
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 3: well as I was reading that skeets. I was thinking,

891
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: they're gonna like this. But you know, if you look

892
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: at the whole gauntlet of our ad reads, there's no

893
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: way they can be disappointed. Every sense is taking care of. Oh. Yes,

894
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: it's comfortable, but it also smells like a freaking mattress

895
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: candle that doesn't exist. That should exist, all right, mattress candle.

896
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: I Am'm gonna look it up just to see you

897
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: what we could away. There's no such thing.

898
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: What you got?

899
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: You got something? No, nothing interesting, nothing interesting. It's funny.

900
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: Some of the results are funny. Some of the results

901
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: are funny. Feel free to google losers of the NBA

902
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: Weekend Lee have out it you're up for.

903
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 5: I hate using the term loser for this one, but

904
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 5: I'm going with the Zion Williamson situation there in New

905
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 5: Orleans because he hasn't played at all yet so far

906
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 5: this season, and now he's suffered a setback to the

907
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: recovery from a foot injury that we only just found

908
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 5: out about prior to the season, so much so that

909
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 5: he's had to basically tone down his rehab work to

910
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 5: allow the bone to heal, and there's no timetable for

911
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 5: his return, which to me, we're about what thirty games

912
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 5: into the season, so we're approaching the halfway mark. I think, listen,

913
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 5: I'm probably playing a little bit of internet doctor here,

914
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 5: but I'll be surprised if we see him return at

915
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 5: all this season, because you know, he's obviously out for

916
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 5: significantly more weeks. He's going to have to then come

917
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 5: back and rehab, and there's been some footage of him

918
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 5: this season where he's obviously gotten a little bit bigger.

919
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 5: And I'm not going to try to shame him in

920
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 5: any way because if his foot's hurt, he can't really

921
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 5: get out there and do that cardio that he would

922
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 5: need to do to sort of get into great shape.

923
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 5: But there's also now the long term decision that the

924
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 5: Pelicans have to look at here, and you know, he'll

925
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 5: be eligible for his rookie extension this summer, and for

926
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 5: you're the Pelicans, you know, I think they're not going

927
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 5: to trade him, so we can take that off the table.

928
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 5: It certainly not going to trade him yet, but it's

929
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 5: either you give him an extension now and you can

930
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 5: do it like the Sixers did with Mbat, where there's

931
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 5: a lot of injury protections in that contract so that

932
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 5: if he's unable to sort of play, they're covered, or

933
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 5: you're basically just let's see what happens at the end

934
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 5: of next season when he'll still be a restricted free

935
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 5: agent and they can obviously then match any offer that

936
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: he's given. And I think if you look at what

937
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 5: happened to Michael Porter Junior in Denver, I think that's

938
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 5: probably more where the Pelicans are going to go. They're like,

939
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 5: there's no need to extend him this summer because let's

940
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 5: just wait and see what happens. He may not even

941
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: get out in the court this season, and then who

942
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 5: knows what's going to happen next season. But overall, it's

943
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 5: just so deflating this news because he's already missed Andrew

944
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 5: Lopez reported this from ESPN that he's already missed more

945
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 5: games and he's been eligible to play in his career

946
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 5: so far, and the fact that he's dealing with this

947
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 5: and he's not been able to recover. It's just devastating

948
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 5: to sort of know this guy who was an absolute

949
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 5: lock as a number one pick a few years ago,

950
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 5: his careers kind of hasn't really gotten started yet. So

951
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 5: that's really disappointing. And for the Pelicans, the season's gone anyway,

952
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter if he comes back. Their seasons a

953
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 5: wash at this point. But it's just more disappointing that

954
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 5: he's dealing with this, and I hope this is something

955
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: that he can overcome, like Joel Embiid who missed basically

956
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 5: his first three well the first three really. I mean

957
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 5: he played thirty yeah, thirty one games in that third

958
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 5: season there. But if you look at him Bid, he

959
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 5: has been able to overcome that and he has been

960
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 5: an MVP candidate and he has kind of delivered for

961
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 5: the most part for the Sixers. So I hope that

962
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 5: it's that and it's not the other way. There's obviously

963
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 5: comparisons out there to Greg Oden. I hope that's not

964
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 5: the case for Zion. I hope he can get back,

965
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 5: but just another blow for the New Orleans Pelicans and

966
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 5: a team that just can't afford that right now.

967
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, us, what do you think when you saw the

968
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: Zion back news here this weekend.

969
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard not to play doctor from your seat here,

970
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: But I would just assume that he sits the rest

971
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: of this season and tries to get back like Embiid did. Obviously,

972
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: it's different because Embiid came into the league and sat

973
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: for two years and that that was a story and

974
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: of itself. But now Zion having come and played and

975
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: it had such a great year last year, I think

976
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 3: it's been overshadowed how freaking Grady was dropping twenty seven

977
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: points per game at sixty percent efficiency, and now this

978
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 3: has just overtaken the headlines. It's understandable, So I assume

979
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 3: he will not play because it's it's hard to see

980
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: him in a situation where he ramps up in March

981
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: or whatever late in the season where the Pelicans are

982
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: probably out of the playoff picture by then, and considering

983
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: they already are and try and get back into it

984
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: feels like it's more of a situation where Zion needs

985
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: to take the season off. But yes, just completely deflating.

986
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: And what are you doing if you're the Pelicans front

987
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: office tray in terms of extension not waiting until restricted

988
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: free agency and what impact does this have on possibly

989
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: other moves that you might make this season if Zion

990
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: is out for the rest of the year.

991
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think surely he will get every

992
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 4: single dollar and every single year that he can, and

993
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 4: I think the Pelicans have to do that because you

994
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 4: have the potential of Zion Williamson there and you're still

995
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 4: going to take that over losing him for nothing theoretically

996
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 4: down the line. But man, you really got to be

997
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: hoping this is an Embid situation and not a Greg

998
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: Odin situation. Right, huge guys with leg problems that can

999
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: be a problem. As we've seen with Embiid, he's turned

1000
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: his career around, and obviously that did not happen with

1001
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 4: greg Odin. As for the Pelicans, I'm kind of with you, guys.

1002
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 4: I think he will probably sit this entire season and

1003
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: they will go the Embiid route. They're one of the

1004
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 4: worst teams in the league right now, bottom of the

1005
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 4: Western Conference, though there are some worse Eastern Conference teams.

1006
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 4: But at the very least they're going to have a

1007
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: pretty high draft pick. Once again, I guess that was

1008
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 4: the silk lining of Embied sending all those seasons for

1009
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 4: the Sixers is that they were bad enough that they

1010
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: still got to draft high in the lottery.

1011
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

1012
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 4: Maybe you're looking at Zion and chet Holmgren, two of

1013
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: the most different shape to people on Earth, as your

1014
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: front court next season. That would be good if they

1015
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: can both stay on the court. But it's a lost

1016
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 4: year for the Pelicans, another lost year for Zion A

1017
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 4: super bummer. I love watching this guy when he's on

1018
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: the court, Just hard to see him on the court

1019
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 4: a lot these days.

1020
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: On Friday, we got reports that Philadelphia's trade conversations on

1021
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons were gathering momentum, right, you know, more teams

1022
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: were engaged and there were possibly more two and three

1023
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: way deal structures going on with the seventy six ers

1024
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: to try and land a top twenty five player. And

1025
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: I bring that up when we're talking about Zion here

1026
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: and moves that they could make moving forward. Not Zion related,

1027
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: but is Brandon Ingram interesting at all to the Philadelphia

1028
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: seventy six ers tasks like is there an Ingram for

1029
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: Simmons type of deal? Is he in the top twenty five?

1030
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: Just on the out side of that more, you know,

1031
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: top thirty five top forty and does he even sort

1032
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: of fit does it make any sense for the seventy

1033
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: six er side of things? Like does that be a

1034
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: player that Morey could be interested in?

1035
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: Interesting one. I think he would fit. I understand they've got,

1036
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: you know, bigger wings and it would be nice to

1037
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: have a ball handler there. But Brandon Ingram is an

1038
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 3: incredible score and he's been an All Star four reason,

1039
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: and he's been doing it, you know, while he's been

1040
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 3: on the floor this year, he's had some great games. Now,

1041
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: Scham's reported today in the Inside Pass the Sixers. Yeah,

1042
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: as you said, gaining momentum. It's gaining even more momentum

1043
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: over the weekends. Skeets Schams naming some teams that have

1044
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: been interested in Simmons. No sign of the Pelicans though, Knicks, Lakers, Timberwolves, Blazers, Kings, Pacers,

1045
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: and Cavaliers. Cavaliers what. I didn't see that coming.

1046
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: But no.

1047
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: Real sense of how much traction each team has there.

1048
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: But those are the teams I would think that Ingram

1049
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: could come in and score. But I don't know, I

1050
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: don't I don't know. I think I think he could

1051
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: fit in as like a Jimmy Butler roll. I think

1052
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: he could. I do love branding. If you look at

1053
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: the points, you look at the efficiency. He just needs

1054
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: somebody to take the pressure off. And I think it

1055
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: would fit really really well. It's just, uh, I don't know.

1056
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: I don't I think that wouldn't please Ion Williamson if

1057
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: you if you trade brandon Ingram, He's you know, wanted

1058
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: to have a team grow and be great. I think

1059
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: the route for me is, you know, David Griffin and

1060
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: the Pelicans probably tells Zion, let's do the MBAT thing.

1061
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: Sit down, but we also have to do the MBAT

1062
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: thing where we put something in your next contract, some

1063
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: provisions that if you're injured, we don't have to pay

1064
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 3: you every single dollar. And that's uh, you know, it

1065
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: doesn't really happen a lot in the league. But it

1066
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 3: did happen with Joel Embiid about it about his lower extremities,

1067
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: and that could happen with Zion.

1068
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: Lock this in. We'll be doing an emergency podcast as

1069
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 2: we lead up to the Christmas break here at some point.

1070
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: It'll probably happen once we sort of like take off

1071
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: some time for the holidays, and then we'll get this

1072
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: big deal the reason all this stuff is like ramping

1073
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: up momentum. We said it a million times. December fifteenth,

1074
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: eighty four percent of NBA players are trade eligible starting

1075
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: that day, which is in what a couple of days

1076
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: on Wednesday of this week because that's the first day

1077
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: most free agents who signed a contract in the off

1078
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 2: season can be traded. So there's just more pieces to

1079
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: throwing to the trade machine.

1080
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: Lead.

1081
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe we're getting close to a Simmons deal

1082
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: with when you got woesh and you got low and

1083
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 2: Cham's all saying this, Yeah, I don't know, you hope

1084
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: we're somewhat close to a Ben Simmons resolution.

1085
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, talks ramping out, that's a very brood. Yeah, that's

1086
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 5: like I mean Daryl Morey again, you know with the

1087
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 5: blaze he said, give us c J. McCollum and six

1088
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 5: first round picks. Is that talks ramping up? That to

1089
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 5: me is just like I'm not training him unless you

1090
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 5: just want to go completely crazy here and give us everything.

1091
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 5: So we'll see, we'll see.

1092
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: There will be some movement.

1093
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 5: There will be some movement, But yeah, I don't.

1094
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: Know, pries to see.

1095
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 4: Sham's mentioned the G League Showcase is coming up. Apparently

1096
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 4: that is the NBA equivalent of the Baseball Winner Meetings

1097
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 4: because all of these teams are there watching their prospects,

1098
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 4: so everybody's able to chat and get stuff done. So

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00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: I think that's the nineteenth through the twenty second or

1100
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: something like that, Skeets. So December twenty third, you want

1101
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: to pencil in an emergency podcast? I mean I sort

1102
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 4: of do, because I know Lee is leaving for Canada

1103
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 4: around that time. Trey, I know you're leaving obviously to

1104
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 4: go up to the Chicago area for the holidays. So yeah,

1105
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 4: as soon as you guys leave, JD at some point

1106
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 4: is leaving to Like, yes, the emergency will happen at

1107
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 4: the worst possible time.

1108
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: That's just Murphy's lot. Do you want me to get

1109
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 2: my dad on the podcast? If I'm in Steve's house, Steve,

1110
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 2: you want to talk? Do you want to talk about

1111
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: some trades?

1112
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 3: Steve?

1113
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: Well, if the Bucks are involved in any deal, you

1114
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: need to get Dwayner Okay, Okay, that should be. I

1115
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: would love to hear him say, Dante deeven chin zoo

1116
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: der donjy don de d Okay, let's keep it going.

1117
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: Zion Unfortunately a loser of the NBA weekend of the Pelicans.

1118
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: I guess, Trey, who do you have? Well?

1119
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 4: The Timberwolves snapped a five game losing streak last night

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00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 4: with a win against the Blazers, but I still got

1121
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: them as a loser of the weekend because they had

1122
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 4: a five game losing streak and the loss on Friday

1123
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 4: was disgusting. Minnesota was coming off that thirty two point

1124
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 4: loss against the Jazz where Anthony Edwards and Patrick Beverley

1125
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 4: trash talked the Jazz after losing by thirty two points

1126
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 4: complete nonsense. They backed up all that smack talk by

1127
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 4: getting absolutely smoked by the Cavs on Friday. Like Task

1128
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, Minnesota trailed the entire game. They were down

1129
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 4: by thirty three at the worst point in this one

1130
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: ended up losing one hundred and twenty three to one

1131
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: hundred and six, which capped off a week of three

1132
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 4: straight home blowouts. They were down twenty one in a

1133
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: loss Monday to the Hawks thirty two Wednesday in that

1134
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: game against the Jazz, been thirty three. Like I said,

1135
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 4: against the Calves, Tass mentioned all the loobs for the

1136
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 4: Calves in that game on Friday, eleven dunks for Cleveland.

1137
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 4: The biggest cheers from the fans were when Taco Fall

1138
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: put Jake Lahman in the basket and Taco Fall plays

1139
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,959
Speaker 4: for the Calves. The Timberwolves got booed off the court

1140
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 4: by their fans. Understandably, postgame, Cat was in I don't

1141
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 4: even want to be around anymore mode.

1142
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: He looked so dejected.

1143
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 4: In his press conference, he said, I've lost for a

1144
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: long time here, not trying to fucking lose anymore. It's

1145
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 4: pretty as simple as that. Food don't taste good, life,

1146
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 4: don't feel the same, feels bad. Man.

1147
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: Here's a few silver linings for you, though.

1148
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 4: D'Angelo Russell came back against the Blazers last night got

1149
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 4: the win. Minnesota twelve and ten. When D'Angelo Russell is

1150
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: on the court, he's surprisingly important for their defense, which

1151
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 4: I did not think was a thing. Zho to five

1152
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 4: without D'Angelo Russell, and earlier this season, Minnesota lost eight

1153
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 4: of nine games and followed that with a five game

1154
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: winning streak. So you look at the schedule, they got

1155
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 4: the Nuggets who are shorthanded, the Lakers, who've been really

1156
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 4: up and down, and then the Mavericks twice on the schedule,

1157
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 4: so this could be the start of something. And most importantly,

1158
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 4: they're somehow still ninth in the Western Conference because the

1159
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 4: West suddenly sucks like the Timberwolves. I got him as

1160
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 4: a loser of the weekend. At least they did better

1161
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: than the Kings did, so the postseason is still a

1162
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 4: possibility for Minnesota here. But as John Krasinski said over

1163
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 4: at The Athletic which you can subscribe the Athletic dot

1164
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 4: com slash no Dunks, they're gonna have to make a trade.

1165
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 4: They need another big guy out there. That's why you

1166
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 4: see him in the mix for Miles Turner. Ben Simmons

1167
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 4: has been a possibility for basically this entire season. But

1168
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 4: I don't know, they need somebody out there besides Karl

1169
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 4: Anthony Towns who's over six foot eight.

1170
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: That's basically what it comes down to. Somebody else who

1171
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: can maybe try and play defense a little bit. Tess,

1172
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: who do you have on your loser of the Weekend list?

1173
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 3: Well, this one's a weird one. The Indiana Pacers for

1174
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: me squeezing this one in here because they're not a

1175
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 3: loser the weekend in terms of the way they played basketball,

1176
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 3: but it looked like it was going that way after

1177
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: some comments from president of Basketball Operations Kevin Pritchard, and

1178
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: then we had some a Twitter drama. Oh, I know,

1179
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: we like some Twitter drama. So the Pacers have been

1180
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: doing fine. After The Athletic reported the Pacers put three

1181
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: of their big names on the block, Miles Turner, De

1182
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: Matsimons and Krislovert. They've won three in a row. Specifically,

1183
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 3: Domas Sabonis ballind last six games twenty one fourteen and

1184
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 3: six assists while shooting seventy percent. It's like his numbers

1185
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 3: from last year when he was an All Star. He's

1186
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 3: bumped it up. But after you know that the Athletic

1187
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: reported it, this is what's happening. They've got everybody on

1188
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 3: the block. There's a follow up interview with about Miles

1189
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 3: Turner and specifically about him. That's when PACER's president Kevin

1190
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: Pritchard said, at some point in time, we've got to

1191
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 3: figure out how to manufacture that real star. That's when

1192
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 3: Indie Star reporter asked Sibonis about those comments. Specifically, Hey,

1193
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: what do you think about Pritchard saying he needs a star?

1194
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 3: Sabona said, quote, Well, I don't know what to say

1195
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: to that. Got him, the Indie Star reporter just you know,

1196
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 3: he took that, took that little quote there and said, hey,

1197
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 3: you're an All Star. How do you feel about your

1198
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: GM saying that? And you know that that's a juicy,

1199
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 3: a juicy little Twitter nugget. So it started bouncing around Twitter.

1200
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: Our friend, longtime Pacers blogger, well, Jared Wade, you know,

1201
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 3: he chimed in, because everybody's chiming in about this Pacers situation.

1202
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 3: He said, quote about Demata Sabonis, his boss said he

1203
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 3: wasn't a real star. At the same time, my guy

1204
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: was shooting seventy percent for two weeks. Okay, so here

1205
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 3: is the interesting part. Kevin Pritchard, president of Basketball Operations

1206
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 3: of the Pacers, replied to Jared Waite's comment, Wow, okay,

1207
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: he said, here you go, Here we go. Although I

1208
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 3: don't respond much, I thought I would give my two cents.

1209
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 3: First of all, I believe in all of our players

1210
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 3: and hold them to the highest of order. In all honesty,

1211
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: I believe we have multiple quotations stars on our team,

1212
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: but we all know we need more. We have challenged

1213
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: our players to be better. The point specifically was so

1214
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 3: we can close games at higher levels. And if we do,

1215
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 3: our record will reflect it. Could I have used a

1216
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: better word than stars, Probably when you get interviewed for hours,

1217
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna slip up. I speak with our players

1218
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 3: every day, and I felt bad for using that word.

1219
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: An appropriate apology was sent. No one believes more in

1220
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 3: this team, so Prichard, you know, getting out there being

1221
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 3: transparent about what he said. And it just shows you

1222
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: that in these interviews that yeah, you say one thing

1223
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 3: and then one reporter takes it to the player and says, hey, yeah, yeah,

1224
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: a comment on this, and it becomes this big story.

1225
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 3: And I think it was just strictly just a just

1226
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: a word that he used. Yeah, he thinks. Pritchard thinks

1227
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 3: that the Pacers should be better. That's understandable. They should

1228
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: be better. They have been, you know, sort of middle

1229
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: of the road, and I just wanted to, you know,

1230
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: jump into that, because once you have a you have

1231
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: an executive come on Twitter and comment like that, you

1232
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 3: just you got to report on it obviously. So yeah,

1233
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 3: they are, they are playing better, but what is their ceiling?

1234
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: And this isn't you know, an up and coming team.

1235
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: This is what they've been for several years now. So

1236
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: they're twelve and sixteen after winning a few games, but

1237
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 3: their situation remains exactly the same no matter what. So

1238
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: I just want to slip that pacer story in there. There.

1239
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 3: They're mor their middle of the road. A couple months here,

1240
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 3: we'll see what's up.

1241
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: I wish Prichard said this Jason Fire thirty four in

1242
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: the stream team. I mean, Suppotus is a great player,

1243
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: but he's not a star in the way that could

1244
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: be the number one on the top team. So I

1245
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: don't see a problem with what he said. It's true,

1246
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: maybe some true to that. He is a really, really

1247
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: talented player. He is an all star, as he's proven.

1248
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: These numbers speak for themselves. But Lee, is he a

1249
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: number one guy that every franchise is looking for, you know,

1250
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: A closer, a guy that can control a game. I

1251
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, I don't think he is. I

1252
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: don't think that's a reach to say he isn't. But

1253
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: there's many guys that, like are all star level guys

1254
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: that are not the number one yeah on a franchise.

1255
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't think he is either. I think

1256
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 5: he's one of those guys you would love to have

1257
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 5: as a second or third best player on your team.

1258
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 5: But if he is your best player, then I don't

1259
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 5: think you're sort of a serious contender. And again, that's

1260
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 5: no disrespect him. I think he's a fantastically consistent player.

1261
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 5: He's tough, he's smart, he can pass the ball, he

1262
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 5: can hit the three. But he's just not a sort

1263
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 5: of drag a team past any other team in the

1264
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 5: playoff type of guy by himself. He's just not that good.

1265
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 5: So I don't think what Pritchard said was completely out

1266
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 5: of player. I mean, if Pritchard does trade him in

1267
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 5: the next couple of weeks, then that tweet that he

1268
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 5: had to Jared Way was kind of wasn't it really?

1269
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 5: I mean because tweets, Yeah, four tweets, and to say

1270
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 5: no one believes in this team more, it's like, well, again,

1271
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 5: I don't think that's being true. But I also don't

1272
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 5: think Pritchard's wrong to sort of say, listen, we sort

1273
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 5: of look at this team middle of the pack. We

1274
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 5: aren't really where we want to be in terms of

1275
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 5: if you look at Brooklyn and Milwaukee and you know, Chicago,

1276
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 5: whoever you want to throw in that they're not in

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01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 5: that bracket. There are you know, potentially they could win

1278
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Speaker 5: a first round, because anyone could. We saw the Hawks

1279
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Speaker 5: do that. But that's about it for the Pacers. So

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Speaker 5: you know, Pritcher doesn't doesn't sort of need to defend himself.

1281
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 5: But I understand as well. He can't sort of be

1282
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 5: seen to be trashing his own players like that, especially

1283
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 5: if he is potentially going to trade one or two

1284
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Speaker 5: of the bigger players in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Here, m hm, I don't know why this female laughed.

1286
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: Ziggy just throwing up an apple Pritch Hode. I guess

1287
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Speaker 2: I think it may have to do it the way

1288
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: he sort of lee pronounces this last name too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's a tough thing because you

1290
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 5: want to be honest, but then you also, you know,

1291
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,959
Speaker 5: want to you know, wanted to be so you can't

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01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 5: go into the locker room with your own plays. But

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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 5: but look, yeah, as I say the.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, do you think that Demanta Sabonis

1295
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 4: follows both Kevin Pritchard and Jared Wade on Twitter because

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Speaker 4: that's the only way he's seeing this response. Tell it

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Speaker 4: to a newspaper, tell it to the athletic Well, I mean,

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01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 4: Kevin says he I guess he gave them apology. He

1299
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 4: either went and talked to them in person or he

1300
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 4: sent him an email or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Don't protest too much. Kevin would put

1302
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: it on you like a task. Do you like your

1303
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: mattress pretch hard or pretch swam hunter.

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01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: I like it pretty perfectly. What you're saying. That's good stuff.

1305
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: That's good stuff. Although I will say Kevin Pritchard Prichard. However,

1306
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 3: I say saying I'm I like to be a starting

1307
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 3: Pritchard and a relief Pritchard. Relief Pritchards are coming into

1308
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 3: the game, but he Kevin Pritchard says that he is

1309
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 3: a starting Pritchard. By starting Pritchard, I mean that he

1310
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 3: comes out and he's transparent with his guys beforehand. We've

1311
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 3: read in these in a bunch of these articles on

1312
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 3: the Athletic that he says to guys if they are

1313
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 3: in rumors, that he's the one who tells them that

1314
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 3: they're in rumors. They don't hear it firsthand. So, uh,

1315
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,479
Speaker 3: if he's saying to Sabona's, hey, you know, I didn't

1316
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 3: mean it that way, maybe he's being truthful about that

1317
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 3: and he's being truthful about coming out and telling these

1318
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 3: guys that they're just they're not being bandied about unless

1319
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 3: I tell you to. So maybe that's a good way

1320
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Speaker 3: to run a front office.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Just a just one more comment here.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me Lee doesn't watch Survivor when he's pronouncing

1323
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: uh Pritchard like Ricard, we.

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Speaker 5: Got za's, we've got za. Now we've got the chod.

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Speaker 3: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Okay. A couple other a couple other losers of the weekend,

1327
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: some mini onesdi I know you got the clip here,

1328
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: KCP Contavi has caledwell, Pope whoopsie of the Year cannedy there.

1329
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: On Saturday night he attacked Ingles Baseline, took off from

1330
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: inside the paint, and he slammed the ball on the

1331
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: right side of the backboard. Yeah, this is so weird.

1332
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: Just gets blocked by the backboard. Also, you had a

1333
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: rough game on Saturday night. The Wizard's got hammered in

1334
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: the loss. He shot zero for five. He had a

1335
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 2: floater go over the backboard in the first half. I

1336
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,479
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw that one too, same game,

1337
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: Like this one's getting all the headlines. This is like again,

1338
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: this will be on the Shackton highlight reel. This would

1339
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: be a Whoopsie of the Year, possibly winner tasks that

1340
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: would be on the nominees list.

1341
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 3: Right, I've never seen that before. Does anyone seen that before?

1342
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: Not?

1343
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 5: So like, yeah, yet he has a clear path. Yeah,

1344
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 5: it's not like, yeah.

1345
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: Blows by ingles, it's not that congested in there. Yeah.

1346
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 2: He just sort of like Whiteside doesn't even jump. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1347
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: it's crazy.

1348
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 4: The guy also at one one season he had like

1349
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 4: a wide open layup weggie right like he grabbed a

1350
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 4: board and just had a wedgie right underneath. So KCP,

1351
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 4: that guy can put together a serious whoopsie highlight reel

1352
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 4: at the end of his career.

1353
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: What a miss. In other injury news here, Pistons forward

1354
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 2: Jeredy Grant suffered torn ligaments in his right thumb. He's

1355
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: out indefinitely. We're waiting to see I think if he's

1356
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 2: getting surgery, if he elects to deal with that route,

1357
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: he'll probably be out until late January early February. This

1358
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: guy's a twenty point per game scorer for the Pistons,

1359
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: who are now four and twenty two and have lost

1360
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: twelve straight. So that sucks. I mean, really does it

1361
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: matter because they're not getting into the play in they

1362
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: want to give Kate Cunningham all the opportunity he can

1363
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: to grow in a lot of their younger guys. Kate

1364
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: Counyan's playing really well over the last five games or so.

1365
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: He's putting up some numbers actually, and maybe we'll make

1366
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: this a little more interesting this rookie year race, like

1367
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: we sort of predicted a couple of weeks ago to

1368
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: sort of push you know, mobilely and maybe Scottie Barnes.

1369
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 2: But that still sucks for Jimmy grant Ley, So just

1370
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: get it into today's show. We'll throw them, unfortunately under

1371
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 2: the losers there because that sucks.

1372
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it does. I mean the Pistons obviously this season

1373
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 5: is a bit of a lost season for them. But

1374
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 5: Jeremy grant he's good. But I don't know if it

1375
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 5: really changes a whole lot though as far as how

1376
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 5: many wins and losses. But Kay Cunningham, yeah, putting it together,

1377
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 5: a nice little packer. I just wonder the considering the

1378
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 5: class out there, has he got enough to really overtake

1379
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 5: some of those other guys A leaders. But if you

1380
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 5: o the Pistons, you're pretty happy with what you're seeing

1381
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 5: from him so far.

1382
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then final one here, I mean the NBA

1383
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: versus COVID nineteen for a loser of the weekend. This

1384
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: is getting out of control, not that it already was it,

1385
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 2: but much like last year, it's having an impact on

1386
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: this current NBA season. We got a number of players

1387
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: from across the league being forced to miss time here

1388
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: as a result of being placed in the league's health

1389
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: and safety protocols after returning a positive test, and just

1390
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: already members. After a player test positive, he must isolate

1391
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 2: away from the team for ten days or return to

1392
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: negative PCR tests in a twenty four hour period before

1393
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 2: they can get back in action. The Bulls are up

1394
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 2: to what now ten players. I think while doing this

1395
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: show they added a tenth if I have that right,

1396
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 2: Alise Johnson testing. Yeah, of today, so they were at nine.

1397
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: Now it's ten that are in the COVID nineteen protocols

1398
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 2: since the start of this you know month, they're asking

1399
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 2: the league to maybe pause their season right now because

1400
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: like they technically do have enough guys, because I think

1401
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: it's the league mandates eight a minimum of eight players

1402
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: before they would really postpone anything, but this is this

1403
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: is wild. The Hornets obviously have their issues, the Bulls

1404
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 2: worse than anyone. And then there's a bunch of other

1405
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: guys too that are that are into these health and

1406
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: safety protocols. And I saw I think it was was

1407
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: it Holling or somebody else saying, like test, does the

1408
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 2: league need to take a pause here and maybe take

1409
01:06:58,720 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: a week or two or are they just going to

1410
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: try and power through this?

1411
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 3: History says they're going to power through because of you know,

1412
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 3: last year situations where they're kind of going game by game,

1413
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 3: and that's how I feel They'll play the Bulls Tuesday

1414
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 3: night game. I think that one will inevitably be delayed.

1415
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 3: But then you know, guys start trickling back and it's

1416
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: a situation team by team thing, and yeah, you can

1417
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,959
Speaker 3: reschedule a few games, but yeah, I don't see an

1418
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: Olympic style pause happening here for a week or two.

1419
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 3: I don't see that happening. No.

1420
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 2: The list, though, is crazy. I mean, beau Zach Lavine there,

1421
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: Demarto Rosen, Yeah, Derosen was in there, John Brant of course,

1422
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm just like listing big names. I know Kyle Kuzma's

1423
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: entered health and safety produce Johnson.

1424
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Bulls sign Johnson has a hardship exception, and

1425
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 4: then he was diagnosed. They're broadcaster Stacy King went into

1426
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 4: COVID protocols. Bill Wennington replaced him, and now Bill Wennington

1427
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 4: is in COVID protocols.

1428
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 2: It is an outbreak for the Bulls right now.

1429
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 4: Like you said, they got the Pistons on Tuesday, They've

1430
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 4: got another game a little bit later this week, and

1431
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 4: they're supposed to be getting Kobe White and Javonte Greener

1432
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 4: kind of first on the list to be returning from

1433
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 4: COVID protocols.

1434
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 2: But I mean heading into Christmas time.

1435
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 4: It's like, is the league going to take a pause

1436
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 4: now when they really start ramping up at Christmas time?

1437
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 4: Seems unlikely, but man cases are piling up right now.

1438
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for sure. So okay, let's hear from you guys,

1439
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 2: Winners of the NBA Weekend, Losers of the NBA Weekend.

1440
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 2: I know you've been dropping some of your suggestions in

1441
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 2: the stream. Team let us know in the YouTube comments

1442
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: below the vid tweet at us at no Dunk's Ink'

1443
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: going to take our final break, but when we come

1444
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 2: back tweet to the night fund It's time for tweet

1445
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 2: of the Night.

1446
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 3: Tweet O the Night. Wow.

1447
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: We've got two tweets for you guys, very very different.

1448
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 2: First one, it's from Tom Ziller at Team Ziller goes

1449
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:59,839
Speaker 2: face Ziller quote. Given F one's apparent success in leveraging

1450
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 2: a behind the scenes Netflix show to build American fandom,

1451
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 2: it remains mind boggling that the NBA doesn't have a

1452
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 2: hard knocks style show.

1453
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: Now.

1454
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: I saw the responses to Zillaer, a lot of people

1455
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 2: pointing out the NBA has tried this the hard knock

1456
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 2: style the association guys, remember that didn't really Celtic it

1457
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 2: was it a Celtics. Yeah, yeah, maybe so.

1458
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 4: I feel like Big Baby Davis was involved in one

1459
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 4: of them. I don't know why, just what I'm feeling.

1460
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Other people pointed out the Raptors do something similar.

1461
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,799
Speaker 2: They do open Gym, which is along the same lines,

1462
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 2: obviously just for their team. But what did you think, Leah,

1463
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 2: I mean, what's your take on this? You know, he's

1464
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: alluding to F one and the success of Drive to

1465
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: Survive getting people like myself into F one. Does this

1466
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 2: work though? In the NBA if they tried something hard

1467
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: knock style or drive to survive style.

1468
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 5: I think the first thing they need to do is

1469
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 5: open up the micd up segment, because that's very vanilla, like.

1470
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: Good job man, good hustle, We got to get this.

1471
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 5: You know, it's nothing. It's like the third in between

1472
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 5: quarter interview on the sideline. Coach, you guys, good defense

1473
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 5: in the first quarter. What do you like about it?

1474
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 5: You know, oh, we played hard. It doesn't tell us anything.

1475
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 5: There's no juice there, there's no meat on that bone.

1476
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 5: So I would start there micing up somebody and being

1477
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 5: a little bit more free with it and saying if

1478
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 5: he's calling out another player on the other team, like,

1479
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 5: for example, let's just say Patrick Beverley, I think you'd

1480
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 5: get gold out of Patrick Beverley on the sideline, trash

1481
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 5: talk and everyone while the team's getting pounded. That though,

1482
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 5: is more interesting to me than seeing someone just like

1483
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 5: gassing up their homie when he makes a good play.

1484
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 5: You know, it's like great workout there, buddy doesn't do anything.

1485
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 5: So I would start there and see if he can

1486
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 5: get some traction out of that, and then potentially look

1487
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 5: into building it into a seasonal thing. If you can

1488
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 5: do that. But I think that's clearly the NBA just

1489
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 5: doesn't have enough of that juicy in game stuff that

1490
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 5: we all really want and we just don't get.

1491
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want the spaciness of Twitter, brough television, right,

1492
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 2: Is the league ever gonna really watch that?

1493
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 5: But if Kevin Durant is joring with somebody on the

1494
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 5: other team, we want to hear that without it being

1495
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 5: centered and without well I mean, okay, you don't want

1496
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 5: him just like cussing the whole time, but you want

1497
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 5: to hear the battle rather than just the like, good

1498
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 5: job guy, you know whatever? It is Like that doesn't

1499
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,839
Speaker 5: that just doesn't excited anybody?

1500
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, yeah, Trey, what do you think is could

1501
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: this ever work? Uh for the NBA?

1502
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 4: Not the way that the NBA is right now, Like

1503
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 4: Lee is saying, the league is too concerned with their

1504
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 4: image to let bad words go out, because I mean,

1505
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 4: like that's the incredible stuff with hard knocks. As you're

1506
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 4: seeing like unvarnished takes from these people. They're yelling at

1507
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 4: each other. Nobody's really caring about whether or not they

1508
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 4: come off good. They're just going through their training camp.

1509
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 4: And I think that that's the difference with the NBA,

1510
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 4: is it's going to be very controlled, just like uh,

1511
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 4: like a hot MIC's segment is anytime you watch that

1512
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 4: and it's just let's go, let's go, let's play hard,

1513
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 4: great stuff out there. So yeah, if the league were

1514
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 4: to kind of completely change the way they market the

1515
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 4: game and allow players to actually show their personalities rather

1516
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 4: than just their media personalities, it would be awesome. And

1517
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 4: as many people are mentioning in the stream, team a

1518
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 4: lot of teams do this on their YouTube channels. But

1519
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 4: it's all very safe as well. And I also think

1520
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 4: there's something lost in that. Like a football roster, there's

1521
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 4: like seventy five people there, right, Like there's like so many,

1522
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 4: so many positional battles.

1523
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 2: For players who are like just barely in the league.

1524
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's as interesting if you're like

1525
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 4: ough is Jared Vanderbilt or nas Reed gonna be starting

1526
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 4: for the timber Wolves. That's probably not drawing people in.

1527
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1528
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 2: I saw one of the replies too, in the comparison

1529
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: to Drive to Survive task was like they didn't think

1530
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 2: it would help as much as you think in the

1531
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: NBA because there's just too many games in the NBA two, like,

1532
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,440
Speaker 2: no regular season game is really all that appointment level television.

1533
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: The way like an F one race is even a

1534
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: football game is because there's so few of them, and

1535
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: sort of the schedule of it all just like this

1536
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: build up to the once a week type of thing.

1537
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: And again they went on to say like if F one,

1538
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: if races were on three times a week for twenty

1539
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: four weeks out of the year or whatever, then the

1540
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: Netflix show probably wouldn't work as well. I think there's

1541
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 2: some truth to that. But what's your take on this

1542
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: tweet here from Ziller?

1543
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that take is is good. It's similar

1544
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 3: to the NFL obviously collecting hard knocks footage from you know,

1545
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 3: Monday through Friday, where it's just practice, practice, practice, practice, practice,

1546
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: practice practice, while in the NBA would be you know,

1547
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 3: it would be different. It's it's it would be a

1548
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 3: heck of an undertaking to really sort of wrap your

1549
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 3: head around cameras around thirty teams traveling all that time.

1550
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 3: It's it's different in that F one is in one

1551
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 3: environment for a week, right, and and the bucks are

1552
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 3: in four cities in a week, so it's like it's

1553
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 3: it's just it's a lot we watched the last Dance

1554
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 3: that was one team and it was obviously highly edited,

1555
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 3: highly curated to M Jay's liking, and it was Yeah,

1556
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 3: it was I mean the word is sometimes sometimes it

1557
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 3: was censored for sure, and that was one team over

1558
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 3: several years. I just think it's a it's a big,

1559
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 3: a big undertaking to try and wrap. If you're trying

1560
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 3: to wrap the twenty twenty one twenty twenty two season

1561
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 3: into like thirty teams and following them, I mean, it's

1562
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 3: just a lot editing, it's a lot of work. It's

1563
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 3: it's just it would be hard to do. And it

1564
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 3: is the stars. I go back to the MJ thing.

1565
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 3: The stars control a lot of it, and I don't know,

1566
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 3: it would be difficult to do. You'd also, I think,

1567
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 3: like you guys know the F one doc better than

1568
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 3: I do. You're kind of relying a lot on the

1569
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 3: personalities of the coaches, the front office players, like you know,

1570
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 3: the teams around these guys, and so in the NBA equivalent,

1571
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 3: it's the front office. I just don't see them being

1572
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 3: as open about it. It's it's just a different dynamic.

1573
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 3: I think it's sort of the league because it's a

1574
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 3: little bit more closed off. I don't know if it

1575
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 3: lends itself to something like that. I think the team

1576
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 3: ones are the best ones in that you follow one team.

1577
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: And yeah, there aren't like great examples, but the open

1578
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 3: gym one, the Raptors one is a good one. But yeah,

1579
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 3: it's it's about having more access. What it comes down

1580
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 3: to is about being a little less censored and just

1581
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 3: letting some of this go. And maybe maybe the f

1582
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 3: one example is good one. Maybe the hard Knocks example

1583
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 3: is a good one for letting It's just it's just

1584
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 3: a good template. I guess to say, you know, we

1585
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 3: don't have to be a y'all PG, and I guess

1586
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 3: that's the way things are going anyway. So let's open

1587
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 3: it up a little bit. Let's have a few swears

1588
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 3: as the kids say.

1589
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 2: Uh, all right, well, I'm glad I brought that a

1590
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: nice get you guys take on that, everybody in the stream.

1591
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 2: Team there this other tweet. It's from a couple of

1592
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 2: days ago, but I just had to show it to everybody.

1593
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 2: It's from at Bullis Kyle, he said, playing on a

1594
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 2: raggedy warehouse hoop which recently fell over and shattered the backboard.

1595
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: We will not be deterred, though. We will still provide

1596
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: amateur wedgies. And then if you're joining us on YouTube

1597
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 2: and you gotta come over to see the pick here

1598
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 2: from at Bully's Kyle. This ball is wedged in the

1599
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 2: backboard because there is no for the most part, there's

1600
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 2: no actual glass there. So this is a first that

1601
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: I can imagine or can remember. Trey, I don't think

1602
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 2: we've ever seen this one. I'm sure Contavious Caldwell Pope

1603
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 2: is Ooh, I'd like to get this one go, but

1604
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I don't even know what you call this.

1605
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 2: It's like a new variation on a wedgie. Anything come

1606
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: to mind.

1607
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 4: I remember somebody responded to this tweet and I don't

1608
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 4: know who it was and said maybe.

1609
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 2: A brickstick was.

1610
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I thought it was good, but uh, yeah,

1611
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 4: I don't know what else are you gonna call this?

1612
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 3: Glassy?

1613
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: Glassy tassy? I don't know.

1614
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 4: I would have loved to have seen the shot that

1615
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 4: shattered the glass the first time as well.

1616
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: Well. Well, he said, well, well, he said the backboard

1617
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: fell over and shot. But was that because of a shot? Yeah?

1618
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 2: Who knows?

1619
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: Lee?

1620
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah?

1621
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 5: It is hilarious, but I don't know what we call it,

1622
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 5: like it's stock, it's wedged, it's lodged, it's but they're

1623
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 5: all taking really young like squeeze, squeeze something. Yeah, someone's

1624
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 5: putting squeeze in there. Squishy Yeah, I don't mind that.

1625
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 5: Squishy Yeah yeah, a body nice Okay.

1626
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: Josh vital thoughts on this very very rare wedgie.

1627
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 3: It is rare pole stall. I mean I don't I

1628
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 3: don't know what do you call that thing that's in

1629
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 3: the middle of a backboard, the support beam, a.

1630
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: Beam, the beam teams.

1631
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I need something. Yeah, I'm looking for a

1632
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: rhyme for sure, but nothing.

1633
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, well we'll keep working on it. And thanks

1634
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 2: to at Bullets Kyle for tweeting that into our No

1635
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 2: Dunk's Twitter account. Picker results Friday night Lakers Thunder could okay,

1636
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 2: see when their third straight game against the Los Angeless,

1637
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 2: you know they couldn't and they were the dog had

1638
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: some points to play with. Think got hammered, So it

1639
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 2: makes sense that I got it wrong. Well, the coin

1640
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 2: got it wrong coin is not not one right coin.

1641
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: The coin is I believe zero and three, So I'm

1642
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: one and seven here, I'll be losing another month at

1643
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: least three and five. I guess you're within striking distance.

1644
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 2: Task is four and four and trade seven in one,

1645
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 2: the opposite of my record, So lots of games on

1646
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: Tonight's where are We going task?

1647
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 3: Nine games Monday Night. I thought this line was huge,

1648
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 3: even though I'm a Cleveland Cavaliers backer. Airfare by five

1649
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 3: and a half points on the Miami Heat a very

1650
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 3: good team, a team that I deem in a tier

1651
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: above the Cleveland Cavaliers. But the Calves are a five

1652
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:44,440
Speaker 3: and a half point favorite at home, so Splitsville is understandable.

1653
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 3: Two of us on the Heat, two of us on

1654
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 3: the Calves, Trey Lee taking Cleveland to cover six or

1655
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 3: more skeets than myself or on the Heat.

1656
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: Lee.

1657
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 3: Let's get your take on why you believe the Cleveland

1658
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 3: Cavaliers are going to cover by six or more.

1659
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 5: Well, they're at home, playing really well, no injury concerns.

1660
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 5: Five and a half is a juicy line, but if

1661
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 5: they play the way they've been playing recently, I think

1662
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 5: they can do it. Obviously, the Heat is still without

1663
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler and Bam, and I think that's big. I

1664
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 5: think when you've got Mobley and Jared Allen playing the

1665
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 5: way they have. PJ. Tucker is obviously going to be

1666
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 5: working hard, and so is Dueen a deadman. But the

1667
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,759
Speaker 5: Calves length there could really really be a problem tonight

1668
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 5: for the Heat.

1669
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: I think, well, the coin the coin disagrees with Yeah,

1670
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: that's why I picked the calveskids pick the Heats today.

1671
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: This one's interesting because I actually I decided in my head,

1672
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 2: who would I take this? Okay, I would have taken

1673
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: Miami Heat to cover today, and then I flipped the coin,

1674
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: and the coin also said, so maybe if we just

1675
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: combine those shitty powers together, the opposite comes true. But

1676
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 2: you Tass is going Miami too. And this is the

1677
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 2: biggest Cleveland Cavaliers fan I know. So something's up right.

1678
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 3: It's going to cover. Yeah, they'll probably cover. The Cavs

1679
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 3: are they're good. They're playing really well. As I said,

1680
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 3: they annihilated the Kings on Saturday night, but they don't

1681
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,560
Speaker 3: feel like a blowout team against good teams. That was

1682
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 3: a good stat Trey brought up one in eight above

1683
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 3: against above five hundred teams. Now they can still win. Yeah, cover.

1684
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 3: It's a lot of points there.

1685
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 2: Yep, we will find out. We'll be back tomorrow morning

1686
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 2: to break down hopefully that game. There's actually some really

1687
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 2: interesting games I think on tonight, like you look at

1688
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 2: the schedule and there's some like, oh, decent matchup, decent matchup,

1689
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: decent matchup. So hopefully they result in some great games

1690
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about them at ten am Eastern live

1691
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: here on YouTube, email and your emma questions. No dunks

1692
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,200
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1693
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,680
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Speaker 2: Go to the Athletic dot Com slash No Dunks. All right, guys,

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01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 2: fun show as they always are on a Monday. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. Until then, Clipper Bros. You heard it

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Speaker 2: here first, have a great time turn up. Love you guys, awesome,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: To wrap up, I need an answer from Succession. It's

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Speaker 3: not a spoiler. It's not a spoiler. This is from

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Speaker 3: the second last episode. My question was that actually Kieran's

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Speaker 3: culkin that we saw.

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Speaker 2: Embrace the day of people.

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01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: You could stay boom every day, my dad be happy

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Speaker 1: every minute.

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Speaker 2: It's been so long that your no mona waiting for.

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Speaker 3: Its happened already. It's gonna be goody