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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Aaron Sores,

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Speaker 2: Olden Polonies broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin is not out tonight. He is actually filling

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Speaker 2: in for Bernie Fratto following us two am Eastern Time.

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Speaker 2: So for the next three hours, old In Polonies is

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Speaker 2: in studio.

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Speaker 3: My man, you excited.

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Speaker 4: I am so excited. Man. This is fun. It's gotta

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Speaker 4: be fun. Great day in sports. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 4: Let's do this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I was texting you at the crack

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Speaker 2: of dawn. You're giving me French Open up dates. You

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Speaker 2: went to golf and here we are. We got an

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Speaker 2: NBA finals. But yeah, you've been You've been locked in,

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Speaker 2: ready to go. I text you I think about eight

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Speaker 2: eight o'clock Pacific time today and so, uh I.

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Speaker 4: Was already up two three hours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how was a French Open early? Well, we got

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Speaker 2: a lot of basketball. The French Open was good.

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Speaker 4: French Open was good. I watched the cinematch and that

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Speaker 4: was I mean, he lost three games. I was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 4: this is gonna be no bueno.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to Chris Plank, who is the voice

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Speaker 2: of Oklahoma women's softball.

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Speaker 3: He does great job he hosts here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: But I was filling in with him, and I said,

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Speaker 2: this is a fun time of year where you know,

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Speaker 2: you get a little college baseball, you get a little

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Speaker 2: college softball. I'm not a huge tennis guy, but Roland

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Speaker 2: Garros is a is a bucket list thing for me

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Speaker 2: that I do want to get to someday. So we'll

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Speaker 2: save the tennis takes for you know, hour four, hour

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Speaker 2: five of our show here, but probably should focus on

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Speaker 2: what happened in Indianapolis. The SEGA just told us the

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Speaker 2: game went final just moments ago. Game six, Eastern Conference Finals,

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Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers final score one twenty five, one oh eight.

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Speaker 2: Pascal Siakup thirty one points, Tyrese Haliburton twenty one points,

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Speaker 2: thirteen assists. The Indiana Pacers headed to the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: Your first reaction to Game six, which just went final

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Speaker 2: moments ago, inevitable?

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Speaker 4: Inevitable? Yeah, because this series was lost in Game one

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Speaker 4: when of fourteen two minutes, forty seconds and you lose

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Speaker 4: the New York Knicks. And once that happened, it didn't

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Speaker 4: matter what was gonna go on because they lost home

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Speaker 4: court in Indiana. That game Bridge Arena is insane. Those

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Speaker 4: fans are rabid, and so to me it was it

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Speaker 4: was just a matter of time. You know, I thought

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Speaker 4: the Knicks could pull it off somehow, but too many turnovers,

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Speaker 4: Thibodeau's lack of in game adjustments, He waited so long

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Speaker 4: to play shamre it, sham it, and I mean passions

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Speaker 4: of tu didn't even get in today. So it's just

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Speaker 4: I don't like it. I didn't like it for the Knicks.

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Speaker 4: You know, I thought they were not gonna win based

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Speaker 4: on that alone, just the fact that Thibodeau was not

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Speaker 4: able to make in game adjustments, post game adjustments. You know,

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Speaker 4: your team was exhausted and all because he plays these

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Speaker 2: But I go back to whatever it was, game six,

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Speaker 2: I think against Boston. Do you remember Jalen Brunson is

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Speaker 2: on the bench two or three times going to him saying, bro,

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Speaker 2: I forget who was even on the court, but it

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Speaker 2: was like, please take these guys out, and he finally

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Speaker 2: did it.

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Speaker 3: Let's start because we got three hours here let's start.

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Speaker 2: With Indiana, you know, as somebody who played as somebody

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Speaker 2: who knows this sport so well, Like what stands out

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Speaker 2: to you about them? I know that Tyrese Haliburton has

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Speaker 2: Haliburton goes to the Olympics, and really I thought sort

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Speaker 2: of had a breakout playoffs over these last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: but just watching them, I mean again, Siakam was actually

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Speaker 2: named the Eastern Conference Finals Most Outstanding Player, most Valuable Player,

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Speaker 2: which I think might surprise some people.

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Speaker 3: But Niesmith was the hero in game one. Nem Hard

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Speaker 2: It just feels and I don't want to do like

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Speaker 2: the cliche thing, but I do feel this. It feels

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Speaker 4: Oh definitely, And that's one of the things I like

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Speaker 4: about him. Number One, they have a championship coach. We'll

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Speaker 4: Halliburton's a star is the star of the team. Of course,

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Speaker 4: Indiana Paces is everybody else because all those guys have

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Speaker 4: a chip on their shoulders, every last one from Nemhar

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Speaker 4: they all have a chip and they play with that

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Speaker 4: chip on their shoulder. They pick you up full court.

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Speaker 4: They were just it'ssessant with this pressure defense that they

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Speaker 4: They play a college style of basketball to me, you know,

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Speaker 4: because of defense and that damn pace. The key thing

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Speaker 4: field goal. That's insane to me. In a game six elimination.

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Speaker 4: You are allowed. You can allow one, maybe two, but

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Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't even see that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even see it, especially if Timms is supposed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because I hadn't really thought about it.

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Speaker 4: That's a fallacy, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Well we got, well we got on the other side.

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Speaker 3: But if you look at this team.

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Speaker 2: Outside of probably Halliburton, maybe Miles Turner who was an

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Speaker 2: There aren't really those guys that were, you know, anointed early.

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Speaker 2: Even even Hallibert, nobody knew who he was coming out

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Speaker 4: Well, it's based off of how they promoted. And that's

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Speaker 4: the problem the NBA has they focused on. Okay, and

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Speaker 4: I know we're gonna talk about it later on, but

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Speaker 4: I have done it.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it. If you promote the Lakers, Lakers, Lauius, Larriors, Sons, Boston,

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Speaker 4: that's all we gonna want because that's what you're programming

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Speaker 4: I say the chip on the shoulders. These guys are

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Speaker 4: And so to me, that's a slap in the face,

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Speaker 4: and guys tend to take that personally, and that's what

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Speaker 4: they've done. That Smith, you know, he made those shots,

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Speaker 4: a chip on my shoulder. Miles Turner top five pick,

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Speaker 4: but it's like, who talks about Miles Turner? Nobody? Chip

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Speaker 4: that's what I mean by that. These guys, you know,

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Speaker 4: so I love watching it. I love good basketball, and

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now, Indiana and okay, see is

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Speaker 2: So you don't think it's going to be a quote

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Speaker 4: Two highest scoring teams, the two most fast break teams.

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Speaker 4: Are you insane? People are in I've been hearing that

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Speaker 4: And that's people that don't know basketball. I want that

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Speaker 4: exactly what you want. I don't want to slow drag

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Speaker 4: been one of the worst finals ever. Okay, see would

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Speaker 4: have random, it would have been a sweep. They would

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Speaker 4: have ran them into the ground.

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Speaker 2: Before the end of the show, maybe we'll play the

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Speaker 2: sound of JJ Reddick telling me that I don't know

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Speaker 2: teams in the eighties and nineties and scoring, and I

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Speaker 2: I missed. I don't know what time his team was

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Speaker 2: playing today. I missed that game, so that might have

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Speaker 2: been earlier when his team was playing, but neither here

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Speaker 3: And uh yeah, no.

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Speaker 2: I think we got so much time to discuss all

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Speaker 2: I am somebody that you know. I'm a basketball person

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Speaker 2: and you know, and this is something we talk about

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Speaker 2: after those big Saturday night games, and it feels like

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Speaker 2: every week it's the Knicks, and it doesn't feel like

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Speaker 2: the league does a good enough job of promoting these teams.

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Speaker 2: And now here we have it. Indiana Pacers are headed

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Speaker 2: they beat the New York Knicks in Game six, one, five,

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Speaker 2: And this is a team that has now fallen short.

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Speaker 3: Why are you celebrating second round win? Get over yourselves?

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Speaker 4: Well, the Knicks fell to their own demise because of

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Speaker 4: You know, he got confused. They had more unforced turnovers

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Speaker 3: By the way, I didn't know you were a college

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, feel free to let him know the

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Speaker 3: But he is also the same thing is his constant downfall.

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Speaker 2: Why did that bulls run and way faster than it

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Speaker 4: And to me, he didn't do that because they defense sucked.

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Speaker 2: This group has reached its ceiling under Tom Thibodeau And

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Speaker 2: It kind of feels like this is kind of and

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Speaker 2: you know the Celtics series, maybe they end up winning.

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Speaker 4: I'll put it this way. Take Karl Anthony Towns out

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Speaker 4: court if he's not playing defense and I'm talking about

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Speaker 4: the Pacers got easy shot, easy three pointer is wide open.

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Speaker 4: Three point is floaters by Halliburton, floaters by everybody coming

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Speaker 4: down the middle. I'm like, dude, at some point in time,

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Speaker 4: you got a man up. If he's not gonna play defense,

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Speaker 4: I have enough offense. He and Jail and Brentson are similar,

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Speaker 4: just different size, but they are offensively, they just alike,

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Speaker 4: and so to me, I can't have both of them

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Speaker 4: on the floor at the same time because I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: struggle defensively.

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Speaker 2: In the Pacers' four wins this series, admittedly the first

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Speaker 2: game was an overtime win, but in the four games

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Speaker 2: this series, they scored at least one hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 2: points in all of their wins. They topped one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty five in three of the four wins. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports radio eratrres Old polonies in for Jason Martin. By

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Speaker 2: the way, on Inside the NBA, they're doing the official

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Speaker 2: Gone Fishing, but for Inside the NBA. So maybe we'll

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about that sometime down the road

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Speaker 2: the final night of Inside the NBA. But before we

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Speaker 2: do that, two things, well, we gotta get to Saga two.

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Speaker 2: I also want your takes on what you just said

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Speaker 2: about the way the league markets these teams. As we're

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Speaker 2: headed for an Indy OKC final. We'll discuss that next.

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Speaker 2: First of all, let's get over the news desk to Sager.

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Speaker 2: What is try to it's.

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Speaker 6: The final night in its current form. I'm sure on

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Speaker 6: TNT for those guys together, because I mean, nobody thinks

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Speaker 6: that ESPN will ever give them the kind of time

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Speaker 6: we're talk skame it gives them.

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Speaker 2: Do your update, and we're going to have this conversation

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Speaker 2: right now because I think all three of us have

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Speaker 2: strong opinions about that, and you're welcome to hop in

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Speaker 2: and join the conversation.

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Speaker 6: Two items to pass along that I did not realize

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Speaker 6: one here after On Fox tonight, the Dodgers whipped the

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Speaker 6: Yankees and then in the Indiana Pacers with the strong

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Speaker 6: third quarter put away the Knicks. So Statsing points out

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Speaker 6: New York Cities, the first metro area ever to have

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Speaker 6: a Major League Baseball team and an NBA team on

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Speaker 6: the same day, each lose by fifteen or more. Wow,

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Speaker 6: because you see the Yas lost eighteen to two at

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Speaker 6: Dodger Stadium and the Pacers went over the Knicks was

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Speaker 6: one twenty five to one oh eight. Pascal Siakam thirty

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Speaker 6: one points and it was a narrow vote, but Siakam

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Speaker 6: get series MVP and the stat I love the most

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Speaker 6: so far. Tonight our finals matchup starting next week is

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Speaker 6: between the last two teams to trade Paul George. Yep,

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Speaker 6: congratulations to the Pacers and the Thunder. Indiana had drafted

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Speaker 6: Paul George first round twenty ten and in the summer

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Speaker 6: of twenty seventeen traded him to Oklahoma City and famously,

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Speaker 6: a couple of years later, OKC traded him.

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Speaker 2: July fifth, twenty nineteen, my wedding night. It was in

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Speaker 2: the middle of my freaking wedding. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Little did we know at.

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Speaker 6: The time how huge a deal that would be, because

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Speaker 6: it was well, pretty much one guy Paul George to

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Speaker 6: the Clippers for fifty two draft choices, one of which

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Speaker 6: was Jalen Williams.

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Speaker 3: And Chagos Alder guy.

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Speaker 6: I think it was eight first rounders and Shake Kilges Alexander.

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Speaker 6: How did that turn out? Goodness? One w NBA game

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Speaker 6: tonight Chicago, which was one and four, got to win

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Speaker 6: at Dallas, which is now one and six ninety four

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Speaker 6: to eighty three. A reminder in hockey, the Stanley Cup

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Speaker 6: Final starts Wednesday, Florida at Edmonton. I mentioned the Dodgers

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Speaker 6: beat the Yankees eighteen to two. Aaron Judge had the

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Speaker 6: two two long balls. In fact, he had three hits.

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Speaker 6: He's batting three ninety eight and he has twenty one

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Speaker 6: home runs this year. At Seattle, cow Raley of the

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Speaker 6: Mariners with his twenty second home run and Seattle won

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Speaker 6: in eleven innings over Minnesota five to four. The Pirates

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Speaker 6: are leading at San Diego four nothing in the top

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Speaker 6: of the seventh, and the Washington Nationals led ten to

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Speaker 6: nothing in the top of the first at Arizona. This

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Speaker 6: is the late game on FS one. The starting pitcher

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Speaker 6: for the Dimes, Brandon Fought, did not get an out

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Speaker 6: in the first inning. Nationals Now lead eleven to two

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Speaker 6: at Arizona in the top of the fifth. The Mets

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Speaker 6: and Phillies are now tied for first in the NLAs

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Speaker 6: Mets beat Colorado eight two. Phillies lost at home. In fact,

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Speaker 6: they were down seventeen to two in the ninth inning

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Speaker 6: seventeen to seven Brewers the final. Milwaukee's won six in

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Speaker 6: a row that Mets went over Colorado.

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned on the show before us, there just is.

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Speaker 6: No bottom to how bad the Colorado Rocky season is going.

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Speaker 6: They've lost seven in a row, they only had three

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Speaker 6: hits today. They've played thirty road games, they have three

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Speaker 6: road wins in the first two months of the season,

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Speaker 6: three and twenty seven, and the overall record nine and

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Speaker 6: forty nine.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve the Singer,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Torres, Olden Polonies

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Speaker 2: in for Jason Martin.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's do the conversation right now.

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Speaker 2: So Inside the NBA is signing off for the last

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Speaker 2: time on TNT, So essentially, I think everybody knows, but

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Speaker 2: TNT's contract is out with the NBA. With the Eastern

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Speaker 2: Conference Finals over, the finals will go exclusively to ESPN ABC.

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Speaker 4: All that.

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Speaker 2: I bring it up because this is the final iteration

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Speaker 2: of Inside the NBA as we know it. As Desager said,

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Speaker 2: they are going to ESPN. But I thought of this

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Speaker 2: topic the other day after the Western Conference Finals clinching game,

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Speaker 2: I think it was Game five. It was OKC in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: ESPN does the trophy presentation immediately throws to Sports Center

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Speaker 2: and within about eight minutes they were on the hockey highlights.

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Speaker 3: Now they went back to basketball.

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Speaker 2: I bring it up because it was at that exact

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Speaker 2: moment that I realized, I don't care how good Kenny is.

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Speaker 2: I don't care how good Chuck is. I don't care

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Speaker 2: how good Shack is. I don't care how much they're

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Speaker 2: paying them, because I think everybody knows.

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Speaker 3: But inside the NBA is going to ESPN.

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Speaker 2: I think ESPN is about to screw up the best

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Speaker 2: postgame show that we've ever seen. To say, we'll bring

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Speaker 2: you in a second. But Olden, do you have any

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Speaker 2: strong I'm sure you know these guys.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: Kenny Smith, by the way, did say something about like

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Speaker 2: a week ago, like, yeah, we don't know what the

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Speaker 2: show is going to look like, which probably is not

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Speaker 2: a good sign.

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Speaker 3: But what are your thoughts holding.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's definitely gonna change because some of the stuff

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Speaker 4: that they were allowed to do and able to do

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Speaker 4: on TNT, they're not gonna be allowed to do on

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Speaker 4: ABC because it's a Disney company, and so that's gonna

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Speaker 4: take a hit. You know, they definitely pushed the line.

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Speaker 4: They crossed it a lot. Of times and again, like

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Speaker 4: I said, I don't know. And they also got the

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Speaker 4: whole isn't the NBA also NBC, you know they coming

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Speaker 4: back as well. So it's like people are gonna be

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Speaker 4: all confused.

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Speaker 3: It's like over here on Amazon, they're not gonna be yea.

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Speaker 4: So it's hey, they went and got the money, they

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Speaker 4: got the bag, but it's gonna be a lot very confusing.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why I think this hurts so many

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Speaker 4: people is because this was our constant. Oh yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: we knew Ernie was gonna be this, Charles, Kenny and Shaq,

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Speaker 4: this was a constant for us. So it's really sad

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Speaker 4: and bittersweet. I'm glad that they're still gonna be a

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Speaker 4: part of it on ABC, I mean on ESPN, but

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Speaker 4: I think TNT should have just, you know, coughed up

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Speaker 4: some money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick to Seger. This was Kenny Smith told

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Speaker 2: us to The New Yorker. We have the same crew

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Speaker 2: of people doing the show, but the timing question mark

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Speaker 2: are we a half hour now? Are we forty five minutes?

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Speaker 2: Are we fifteen minutes? Those are the things that you

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Speaker 2: can control when you own your IP, but we don't.

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Speaker 2: That was the only part that made me uncomfortable and

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Speaker 2: disheartened because I felt like that the four of us

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Speaker 2: should have went to eat ABC to negotiate that deal.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that our executives don't know how to

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Speaker 2: do that, but we are the IP now. Ultimately, it's

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Speaker 2: a classic show like Seinfoldfeld. So will it translate? And

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Speaker 2: I think, to me, that's the big question is I

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Speaker 2: don't know exactly how the postgame production works, but it

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Speaker 2: seems like they turn on the mics and they say, guys,

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Speaker 2: talk as long as you have something to say, and

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Speaker 2: if that's twenty five minutes, if that's an hour and

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Speaker 2: twenty five minutes, take your time.

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Speaker 3: And that's clearly not gonna be the case the ESPAG.

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Speaker 6: It's like it's a college radio program or your first

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Speaker 6: job in radio where the clock doesn't matter, and that's

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Speaker 6: not going to be the case over there. And part

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Speaker 6: of the reason is just because ESPN has other properties,

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Speaker 6: like you mentioned, they are invested literally not figuratively, into

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Speaker 6: the NHL. They need to show NHL highlights and that's

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Speaker 6: going to screw up this type of NBA show. They

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Speaker 6: also already have a ton of personalities and egos over there,

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Speaker 6: and they're bringing in the Kings currently if you look

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Speaker 6: at the Sports Emmys of this type of thing. So

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Speaker 6: is there going to be room for that as a

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Speaker 6: viewer of sports television? I just hope and I can't

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Speaker 6: imagine it won't improve the halftime show of ESPN's NBA presentation,

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Speaker 6: which has been a colossal waste of time for a

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Speaker 6: long time.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worried by the way it looks like Ernie

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Speaker 2: Johnson is tearing up for people who are not in front.

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Speaker 3: Of a TV. He just dropped to Mike literally wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So this is the final iteration of Inside the NBA

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Speaker 2: on TNT.

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Speaker 3: The four of them are moving.

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Speaker 2: To ESPN and ABC next year. But as Kenny Smith

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Speaker 2: told The New Yorker, we don't know the timing. Are

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Speaker 2: we half an hour? Are we forty five minutes? Are

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Speaker 2: we fifteen minutes? I worry best postgame show clearly by

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Speaker 2: a mile in sports, And I don't think we know

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Speaker 2: what we're expecting anything else to add Olden.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my favorite line that I always use. It's hard

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Speaker 4: for me to be worrying about millionaires and billionaires. Dude,

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Speaker 4: I really don't give a damn.

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Speaker 2: But it's not about the millionaires and billionaires though. It's

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Speaker 2: about the fans, and it's about the consent.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Is that about you think ESPN cares about fans, Well, no,

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Speaker 4: that's a whole different conversation. Nobody cares about the fans.

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Speaker 4: Technically they don't, because if they did, we wouldn't have

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Speaker 4: this next discussion about ratings. They would just show up

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Speaker 4: regardless of what two teams are playing. They would just

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Speaker 4: show up for all these things, so that no one,

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Speaker 4: None of these people care about fans. Once they half

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Speaker 4: day money, they don't really care well.

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Speaker 6: And that was evidence with the NFL last year when

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Speaker 6: they could flex not only Sunday games but now Thursday.

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Speaker 6: So people who bought a Thursday night ticket for a

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Speaker 6: five o'clock game with Chargers Broncos were told only a

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Speaker 6: week or two before the game. Yep, by the way,

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Speaker 6: you thought this was a weekend game originally, when you're

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Speaker 6: gonna take your family on a Sunday afternoon, now it's

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Speaker 6: a work night at five o'clock next to lax.

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Speaker 3: Good luck, yeah, good luck yeah.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I would say is maybe Turner didn't

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Speaker 2: really care about the fans, but they at least had

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Speaker 2: the wherewithal to not screw it up. And I think

650
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: it's inevitable that that ESPN and ABC will so Fox

651
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: Sports Radio erators ol, the politicies will come back exactly

652
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: what you just said, Olden. NBA Finals are set. Big

653
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: question is anybody gonna watch. We'll discuss that next Fox

654
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, real fans, trust me. Indiana watching, Oklahoma City.

656
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Speaker 3: Watching, Welcome back everybody.

657
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Torres, Olden polonies in for Jason Martin.

658
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: Jason Martin again, in for Bernie Fratto two Am Eastern.

659
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: He'll follow us. Oh, then, I thought you brought up

660
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: a great point earlier. So NBA Finals is set, Indiana

661
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: Pacers will take on the OKC thunder, And I think

662
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: there's two different conversations that both can be true. I

663
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: don't think the ratings are gonna be very good. I

664
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: don't know if you know you and I don't work

665
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: in the programming department at ABC, so I don't know

666
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: that we should care. But I thought you brought up

667
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: the best point, which is the NBA, because of how

668
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: they have marketed this league, have no one to blame

669
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: but themselves if the ratings are not good. So I'm

670
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: gonna give you the floor as to just your general

671
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: thoughts on what will likely be a low rated NBA Finals,

672
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: even if the basketball is going.

673
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: To be really good, Man, it's gonna be low rated

674
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: because we're putting it out there in the universe. But

675
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 4: also the fact that they haven't done a good job

676
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: of promoting teams since I was in the league. You know,

677
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: it was back then, it was Jordan, Jordan, Jordan. You know,

678
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 4: it was specific teams and specific players. So they've continued

679
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 4: using that formula. But there's a big, big difference, you know,

680
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: to why I'm not believing it's gonna happen, And that's

681
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 4: because we've grown. Back in the eighties and nineties, Yeah,

682
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: you talked about big markets, small markets and all that.

683
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 4: We didn't have social media, we didn't have internet and

684
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: all that. Now this game has gone global because anybody

685
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 4: can pick up their phone and turn on a game.

686
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: And so to me, I don't think. I don't believe

687
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 4: there's such a thing anymore as big market small market.

688
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: It's like what can I see with my own two eyes?

689
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: So Oklahoma City has the MVP and Shay Gilgers Alexander.

690
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: They have a young team, very talented, very fun to

691
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: watch that pick up full court. Indiana has a young,

692
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 4: very talented team with an Olympian and an All Star

693
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: and a champion in Pascal Siakam, and they play full

694
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: court defense and they love to run. One ten, one

695
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 4: twenty is nothing for either one of these two teams.

696
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 4: And so to me, that's what you want as a league.

697
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: You want the two best teams. I'm not saying that

698
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 4: Indiana is the best team out of the East, but

699
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: they the best team right now for the finals. Because again,

700
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 4: if the Knicks had won this series, it would have

701
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: been a sweep. Oklahoma City would have just ran right

702
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 4: through the Knicks because they exhausted. I believe that it's

703
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 4: going to be a great matchup. And you have history,

704
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 4: you know, and the fact that Olahoma City franchise in Indiana,

705
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 4: Indiana Indiana Paces franchise, neither one has won NBA championship,

706
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: and so that history will be made. You also have

707
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: historically the Indiana Pacers who started in the ABA. Yep,

708
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: so there's so many storylines. You have former Seattle Supersonic

709
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 4: team now you know, Okay, see and so to me,

710
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 4: there's so much history that can be played, so the storylines,

711
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: there's gonna be great storylines all the way around, and

712
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 4: you just got to find it and promote it, you know.

713
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 4: And if the NBA is willing to do that, like

714
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 4: they've done with so many other teams, then you're gonna

715
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: have a great product out there.

716
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 7: But I believe, as far as basketball, this is the

717
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 7: two best teams. So I think it's gonna be a

718
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 7: great series. I don't think people are gonna watch, and

719
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 7: I do think the NBA is to blame and no,

720
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 7: and it's just you know, it goes back. I think

721
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 7: I mentioned this, but but Jason Martin and I talk

722
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 7: about this all the time.

723
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: In the time slot. I remember it must have been

724
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: back in February. It was either the I think it

725
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: was the first Saturday night after the Super Bowl. The

726
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: game that they played in ABC primetime was Warriors Lakers.

727
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: And I said right there, I said, listen, I get

728
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: that Steph and Lebron are the two biggest stars in

729
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: this league still, but how long are you going to

730
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: try to just ride this wave until you acknowledge that

731
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: these guys have moved on? And I think the most

732
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: frustrating part for me as a basketball person as well.

733
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: There's so many young stars, There's so much great talent

734
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: in this league, and it's it's like, why are we

735
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: still on Lebron and Steph? Can we like and it's not.

736
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: You know, Shay's great, Jokic is great. I got a

737
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: little beef for Anthony Edwards which to get into our two,

738
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: but he is still an incredible talent. Listen, the Knicks lost,

739
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: but they're an awesome story. Jayleen Brunson is an awesome story.

740
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: And it just feels like we are just trying so

741
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: hard to squeeze every last drop out of this Lakers

742
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: Warrior sponge and this is going to be the byproduct

743
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: of it.

744
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 3: If nobody watches these finals.

745
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right, And that's the problem that the NBA

746
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 4: has faced for so many years. They want to hang

747
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: their hats on a couple of franchises. Yeah, in a

748
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: couple of players. We say this all the time. It's like,

749
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 4: beginning of the season, we know exactly who's going to

750
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 4: be in the finals. Basically there's only like five six teams,

751
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 4: and it was always those teams with like a Kevin

752
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 4: Durant Lebron Steph and all those guys and back in

753
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: the days. So it's the same thing. You have to

754
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: expand a little bit. The NBA. NBA, you have to

755
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 4: expand a little bit. Yeah, okay, you have all the

756
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: money to promote. Promote these guys, promote Tyrese Halliburton. I

757
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 4: mean that's a great story in itself. Sacramento Kings gets traded,

758
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: a throwaway trade and now he's, like I said, Olympian

759
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: All Star. There's so many different great stories within this

760
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: series and they need to jump on it.

761
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: I don't disagree, and we'll see what happens. Tyrese Haliburton

762
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: and the Indiana Pacers are headed to the NBA Finals.

763
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: They will take on OKC starting Thursday, Game one in

764
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City. Fox Sports Radio Aaron Torres, Olden Polonies in

765
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: for Jason Martin. We're taking up until two am Eastern time.

766
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: Plenty more basketball to discuss over the next two hours.

767
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about Anthony Edwards the Minnesota Timberwolves,

768
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: but we'll talk about one guy who is definitely not

769
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: the face of the league, Zion Williamson.

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Speaker 3: We got to discuss.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, hour two Fox Sports Radio, Aaron Torres,

773
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: Olden Polonies in for Jason Martin. As I've mentioned a

774
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: few times, Jason is in for Bernie frattoletter, so you'll

775
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 2: still get plenty of Jason Martin. Three hours at Jason

776
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: Martin starting at two am Eastern time. Olden and I

777
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: are taking you up until two am Eastern. All right, Olden,

778
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: let's divert a little bit away from the Indiana Pacers.

779
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: Pacers are headed to the NBA Finals. They'll face Oklahoma Ceity.

780
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: Game one is.

781
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: On Thursday night. We will revisit that in a little bit,

782
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: but I want to get to some other stuff across

783
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: the NBA. We're gonna start with a serious topic, and

784
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: you know we're gonna you know, I'll frame this carefully,

785
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: but there was a pretty big headline on Friday. Zion Williamson,

786
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: New Orleans, Pelicans. We all know all about him, but

787
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: accused of some very serious crimes. You can read about them,

788
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,959
Speaker 2: but i'll just say it, you know, for people driving

789
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: around with kids, just maybe turn this down for half

790
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: a second. But Zion Williamson is accused of rape, in

791
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: addition to sexual, physical, and emotional and emotional abuse by

792
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: a woman listed as Jane Doe here in Los Angeles.

793
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: We don't have to get into, you know, guilt or innocence.

794
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: But I think the bigger conversation is, you know, if

795
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: it's gotten this far, it's just another dark cloud under

796
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: Zion Williamson and it's it's crazy. You know, I mentioned

797
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: this in Hour one, but the night of the Paul

798
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: George trade, which was also the night Kawhi Leonards signed,

799
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: was July fifth, twenty nineteen. That was the night of

800
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: my wedding and my wedding got interrupted. There's pictures of

801
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys just on their phones trying to

802
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: get information about the Paul George Kawhi Leonard thing. But

803
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: that was also the night of Zion's debut at Summer League,

804
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: and that was, you know, really was supposed to be

805
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: the start of this incredible thing that has just not

806
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: happened Zion at this point, you know, it's now year

807
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: he's heading into year six in the NBA.

808
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: Three seasons with thirty games or few were played.

809
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: When he's out in the court, he's good, but he's

810
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: also you know, he's been injured a lot and of course,

811
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: there are now very serious allegations following him. This is

812
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: the second offseason in a row where there are allegations

813
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: following him, and so again we don't have to get

814
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: into the allegations. But this guy that I think we

815
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: all thought was the next It's funny because we're talking

816
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards here in a minute about the conversation about

817
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards being the face of the league. But we

818
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: thought it was going to be Zion And it is

819
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: unbelievable seeing just whatever this is, whatever this thing is

820
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: that has become his.

821
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 4: Career, Oh definitely, and it's rough seeing that. You know,

822
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to see that for anybody. But at

823
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 4: the same time, I always wonder who do you have

824
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: in your camp? You know, who are you speaking with

825
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 4: on a regular Who's got your back? Because this stuff,

826
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: you know, regardless, like you said, you know, we're not

827
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: dealing with guilt innocence. You know, whether it's true or false.

828
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 4: You know, accusations happen all the time, and now you know,

829
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: you gotta let the legal system handle the case. But

830
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: at the same time, it's like how you allow yourself

831
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 4: to get into these situations because this is not the

832
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 4: rape allegation is new, but he's been in the news

833
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: negatively for so many years. You know, he's had baby

834
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: mama drama, he's had all this other stuff going on,

835
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 4: plus the weight issue. And so to me, who's around you.

836
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 4: You come from a good family who's like you got

837
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: you have enough money, hire the right people, man, surround

838
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 4: yourself with some good people. If you're not able to

839
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 4: do that, man, it's crazy because I know one thing.

840
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 4: So there's a name that's out there. Whenever I see

841
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: that name, I'm like, oh lord, it's trouble. And that

842
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 4: name is Tony Busby.

843
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say that. I really did,

844
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: but keep going go ahead.

845
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 4: Whenever I see Tony Busby, I get a little little

846
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: nervous because he's the king of lawsuits. And so I

847
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: don't know if it's you know, you said Jane Doe.

848
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 4: But I did see Mariah Mills' name come up, So

849
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's her that's making the accusations.

850
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 4: But Tony Busby's involved, So there's gonna be some money

851
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 4: handed out somewhere.

852
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: Well, it looks like as a follow up to that,

853
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: Mariah Mills has contacted lawyer Tony busby about possible lawsuit,

854
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 2: and so I think it sounds like the first alleged

855
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: victim has come forward, and so now we have somebody

856
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: else that is willing to come forward to maybe corroborate

857
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: or ride that train.

858
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's really interesting.

859
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: I want to ask you old and you know you

860
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: mentioned to me during the break, is that you know

861
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: you coach a you you kind of saw Zion on

862
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: the way up. You know, I cover college basketball, you know,

863
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: pretty extensively. I think the crazy thing to me, and

864
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: I don't claim to know anybody or whatever, but what's

865
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 2: crazy about the Zion thing is this is that sometimes

866
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: like take maybe Anthony Edwards is a good example, Right,

867
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: he's in college, but he's not really winning, and he's

868
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: that whatever, and so you could see the scenario where

869
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: maybe he's individually talented, but is he ready to be

870
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: the face of the league whatever. Zion that one year

871
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: a duke, it was just so he said all the

872
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: right things, he did all the right things. You never

873
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: heard about any trouble in any regard with women off

874
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: the court, whatever. And I think that's the craziest part

875
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: to me is again, these are all allegations. We get it,

876
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: but showed up. Remember there was the big controversy about

877
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: should he quote unquote shut it down after he got

878
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 2: hurt late in the season, wanted to play again, set

879
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: all the right things, did all the right things, was

880
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: part of a winning It's just that's the crazy part

881
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: to me is maybe I miss something. But to me,

882
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: there was no indication that he was going to be

883
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: anything other than like a great ambassador for this league.

884
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: And now he comes in and it's great.

885
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 3: He's almost like a.

886
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: Forgotten guy because of the injuries, because of the off

887
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: the court stuff.

888
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: It's just wild to me that this is how it's

889
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: all unfolded.

890
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 4: Oh definitely. Sometimes I've been like, damn, he's still playing

891
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: exactly right. But I'll tell you this, A lot of

892
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 4: it has to do with upbringing. Like I said, he

893
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 4: comes from a good family, but sometimes that good family

894
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 4: hurts you because they don't prepare you for this life. Sure,

895
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: you know, you're surrounded by people, you know. He comes

896
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 4: from a religious background, for what I remember, and so

897
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, I'm doing this ABC and D. I'm

898
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: following these rules and guidelines, but now I'm a professional

899
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 4: with millions of dollars I can stay up late, I

900
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 4: can go out whenever I want. I'm meeting all these

901
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: beautiful women. Oh oh, and they're professionals. Trust me on that.

902
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 4: The women, they're pros. They know how to do it.

903
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 4: They know how to talk, they know how to they

904
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: know how to make you feel amazing. And he's not

905
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 4: used to that. And that's why I say, who's in

906
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: his camp that's got his back saying, hey, ze, I

907
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: don't think you need to be doing this. And sometimes,

908
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: you know, we gotta save guys from themselves. And right now,

909
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 4: I don't think Zion has anybody.

910
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: So this is not an apples to apples comparison.

911
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: Okay, but we were talking earlier about Tom Thibodeau, and

912
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: it's basically like, as a coach, he is who he is.

913
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: He's stuck in his ways and it doesn't feel like

914
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: anybody can get through to him. Zion is heading into

915
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: year six in the NBA, and you could sit there

916
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: and say one bad headline after another, but let's put

917
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: aside what he's accused of, not put aside, we don't

918
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: want to be in consider of the alleged victims, whatever,

919
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: But let's assume it's false and he gets past this

920
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: and whatever.

921
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: But I guess my question is can somebody at.

922
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: This point get through to him or is it a

923
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: thing where yes, he's only twenty four, about to be

924
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: twenty five years old in a couple of weeks, but

925
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: we've got six years of he doesn't care about his weight,

926
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: he doesn't care about being in shape, he's hanging out

927
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: with the wrong people, he's dealing with, he's putting himself

928
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: in bad situations. So I guess my question is he's

929
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: only twenty four, about to be twenty five, But do

930
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: you think somebody can get through to him or do

931
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: you just think this is a lost cause? And I

932
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 2: think at this point it's like he's never gonna be

933
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: what we thought he was gonna be, but he is

934
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: still a two time All Star, Like, is there a

935
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: pathway to him to get on the right trajectory or

936
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: is he just basically a lost cause for lack of

937
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 2: a better term going.

938
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 4: For It's hard for me to answer that question because

939
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 4: I don't want to say he's a lost cause, but

940
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a it's gonna be hard work for

941
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 4: whoever gets to him, you know, because again, yeah, I

942
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 4: think he's been doing so much on his own, and

943
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 4: it hasn't been good. He's not even gonna see the

944
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 4: good that people are trying to do for him and

945
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: help him with. And I think that's the key. But

946
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 4: whether this thing is true or not, it's gonna tell

947
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 4: a lot about them, because if it's not true, then

948
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: he needs to like shelter himself moving forward. And if

949
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 4: it is true, he's gonna have to get some good

950
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 4: lawyers and get through this and to make some changes.

951
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 4: So either way, something's gonna happen. Something's gonna have to give.

952
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 4: But right now, I'm just saying you're too good of

953
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 4: a talent, and like I said before, you come from

954
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 4: a good upbringing. Something happened in the last couple of

955
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 4: years that none of us know about, but something has

956
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 4: happened that's changed him.

957
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: Yep.

958
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: And so to me, that's where the change begins for him,

959
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 4: is the fact that we need to figure out bad

960
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 4: did this thing start.

961
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to kind of monitor this because again,

962
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: one obviously a very serious situation, very serious accusations. To

963
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 2: your point, Tony Buzzby is now involved with maybe somebody

964
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: trying to piggyback on this lawsuit. And I just think

965
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: the bigger thing is and we can just even keep

966
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: up with basketball as we kind of switch gears and

967
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: move on to some other stuff. But it's like, I

968
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: just think the like the it's just how do I

969
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 2: say this? Is like basically, it's just one bad decision

970
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: after the other. And even if this stuff isn't true,

971
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: it's like the simple stuff like staying in shape, doing

972
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 2: the right thing, being on it, those are the things

973
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: that he just hasn't been able to do since he

974
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: got into the league. And this is just one more

975
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: negative headline that comes to eye plays.

976
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, and I understand that, but I gotta say this,

977
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: and I'm never gonna be disrespectful, you know, to anybody

978
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 4: that you know brings up the term rape, you know,

979
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: you have to respect it. And I hope you know

980
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: when these people make these accusations that they are telling

981
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 4: the truth. But at the same time, the timelines on

982
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: a lot of this stuff is what bothers me, you know.

983
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: And again, maybe I'm just not a learned individual on

984
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 4: the mentality of a woman to know this, but it's like,

985
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: if I'm in a relationship from twenty eighteen to twenty

986
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 4: twenty three and something happened in twenty I'm not gonna

987
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 4: last stay with you them extra three years. You know,

988
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 4: I'm just not But again, I'm not a female, so

989
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,479
Speaker 4: I don't know. So it's kind of like it's those

990
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 4: weird things that come up. But again, I'm hoping this

991
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 4: ain't true, and if it is, you gotta deal with

992
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 4: it as a man, you know, and face the consequences.

993
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 4: But again, don't put yourself in these positions. And I

994
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 4: believe he has to get the hell out of New Orleans.

995
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he has to requests the trade whatever. Just man,

996
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 4: you gotta leave. I'll tell you what, but take take

997
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 4: you about to Utah the so I'll tell you what.

998
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: I was just in Utah about two weeks ago. I'm

999
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: the type of person I like a cole beverage at

1000
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: the end of every day. It's it's hard to find

1001
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: one of those, let alone. Uh, you know, pretty much anything.

1002
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: So no, it's an.

1003
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: Interesting, uh situation, and uh yeah, to your point, you know,

1004
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: the accusation span over a multi year, multiple year period

1005
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 2: of time. But I just think the broader thing is

1006
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: is that even if the accusations aren't true, it's a

1007
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: wasted first six years of an NBA career that we

1008
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: all thought was so promising and I don't understand I.

1009
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any easy fix to it. So

1010
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er Torres and Olden Polonies in for

1011
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,720
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1012
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: are Anthony Edwards? What did we learn and maybe what

1013
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: do what?

1014
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: You know?

1015
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: What do we learn about Anthony Edwards this week? But

1016
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 2: what do we need to learn about him going forward?

1017
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,920
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1018
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,759
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1019
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,960
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00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:32,680
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1024
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1025
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,160
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1026
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,480
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1027
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1036
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: top of your screen. All right, Olden, I want to

1037
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: switch gears and I want to talk about a team that.

1038
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 3: Was eliminated earlier.

1039
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 2: So the Knicks were eliminated on Saturday night. I didn't

1040
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 2: want to talk Minnesota Timberwolves though, because to me, I'll

1041
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: say this, I think Anthony Edwards went from wildly underrated

1042
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: to overrated in a year.

1043
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 3: Now.

1044
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: Before we get to yeah, I'll explain why in a second,

1045
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: But first of all, I do want to play some sound.

1046
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: After Minnesota was eliminated in Game five of the OKC

1047
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: Thunder Series Western Conference Finals, Brien Mary could play the sound.

1048
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 8: Thanks exciting. I don't know, I don't know why people

1049
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 8: would think it would hurt. I mean, it's exciting for me.

1050
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 8: I'm twenty three. I get to do it a whole

1051
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 8: bunch of times. I'm hurt more so for myself, for Mike.

1052
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 8: I came up short for Mike Like I said, we

1053
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 8: tried last year, we couldn't get it. Try to get

1054
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 8: this year. I won't try again next year. But hurting

1055
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 8: is a terrible word to use.

1056
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 4: I'm good.

1057
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: First of all, do you have any problem with that

1058
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: twenty three years old. He's got many good years we

1059
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: believe ahead of him. But you would know better than

1060
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: anybody in this studio how hard it is to get

1061
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: to a Western conspons man.

1062
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 4: It's rough, But I don't have a problem with it

1063
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 4: because he is twenty three, and twenty three year olds

1064
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 4: don't win championships. Now, that's the star. They still learning

1065
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 4: the game, and that's why you always need veterans, you know,

1066
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: veterans that keep positions and other good players. So we've

1067
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 4: seen it over the last couple of years, you know,

1068
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 4: like you know, most recently the Denver Nuggets. You know,

1069
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 4: they had Jokic and you know, won the championship and

1070
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you know, Jamal Murray of

1071
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 4: course and all those guys, and they made some trades

1072
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 4: from that championship team, and then all of a sudden

1073
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: we saw a slight decline to where they had to

1074
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 4: fire Mike Malone. And so to me, the Minnesota Timberwills

1075
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: fall into that category. Without a championship. You know, you've

1076
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 4: had back to back Western Conference finals and you lost

1077
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 4: both of them. Something has to change, and it might

1078
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 4: be coaching, because I think you can only listen to

1079
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 4: your coach for so many years and then you need

1080
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 4: a new voice. And that's one of the things. And

1081
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 4: the easiest thing to do for teams is to get

1082
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 4: rid of the one instead of the twelve fifteen, which

1083
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 4: is the team. You can't do that, so you can

1084
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 4: just get rid of the head coach, get a new

1085
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 4: voice in, you know, new energy, and see what happens.

1086
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 4: But they still need some other stuff as well. But

1087
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards, you know, for lack of a better word, yeah,

1088
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 4: you know, he's they trying to make him. I don't

1089
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: even know who's trying to make them defasically, first of all,

1090
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the NBA, if it's the media.

1091
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 4: But it's like that stuff happens. It usually happens organically.

1092
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 4: I remember when Magic and Bird they were the faces

1093
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 4: of the NBA. Then all of a sudden, that young

1094
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 4: fella out of North Carolina came in. You know, through everything,

1095
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 4: he just kept putting up thirty points, thirty points, forty

1096
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 4: to fifty. He just he became the face of the league.

1097
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 3: By the way, is it true.

1098
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: I saw a story where you said something about Michael

1099
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: and your mom got mad about it.

1100
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 4: Is that true? Man? Yeah, it's true. Okay, what happened?

1101
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: I just thowts mama. But yeah, so I go ahead.

1102
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 4: I foul people, okay, you know when they need it.

1103
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 4: So we were playing a game in Chicago and Mike

1104
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 4: tried to dunk on me. I'm not allowing that. I

1105
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 4: sent him into the bleachers. They throwed me out the game.

1106
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, you know whatever. And as I'm

1107
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 4: leaving Chicago Stadium, I'm getting downst with beer and everything else.

1108
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 4: People booh, you stuck. But my mentality was and it

1109
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 4: helped me in the long run because players around the

1110
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 4: league saw that I could hit Jordan without a care

1111
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 4: in the world, say like, oh snap, if he does

1112
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 4: that the mic, you imagine what he'll do me. So

1113
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 4: I had that going for you. But anyway, every game,

1114
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: after every game, I would always call home, talk to

1115
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 4: my brother, you know, we break down the games and

1116
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 4: talk to my mom. She gets on the phone yelling

1117
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 4: at me. Wow? What these work with you? Wh Why

1118
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 4: you hit Michael like I'm your son? Why are you

1119
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 4: mad at me? And she literally was mad at me? Wow.

1120
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 4: And it showed me the power of Jordan in that moment.

1121
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: It didn't matter who was My brother named his son Jordan.

1122
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 7: Wow.

1123
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 4: So it's like I don't know my weird ass family.

1124
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 4: There you go. But yeah, so it's you know, the

1125
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: situation is this Anthony. You know, Mike became a star,

1126
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 4: Kobe became a star, Steph Curry, all these guys, they

1127
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 4: organically became faces of the league, whether they wanted to

1128
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 4: or not. We're trying to force it on Anthony Edwards

1129
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: and I don't think he's done enough for that regular

1130
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 4: season and a couple of Western Conference Finals appearances does

1131
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 4: not make you a face of the league. You have

1132
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 4: to and I'll tell you why. To me, he's not

1133
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 4: the face of the league. According to the NBA. Too

1134
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 4: many fines for obscene language, sure, too many. He does

1135
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 4: a lot of for lack of a better word. And

1136
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it here and I can say it

1137
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 4: because I'm black. Ghetto. Too many ghetto acts and I

1138
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 4: hate that what he does. You know, he does. He

1139
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 4: yelled some obscendity to a fan one time about how

1140
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 4: much money he has and other stuff, and I'm like, dude,

1141
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 4: how are you gonna be the Can you imagine Michael

1142
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 4: Jordan doing something like that to a fan?

1143
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: No, Steph Curry, No, we could criticize Lebron for whatever.

1144
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: I mean outside of the stephen A thing. You know,

1145
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: it's like he's man. He's on the Mott rushmo by

1146
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: himself as far as off the court of course. So yeah,

1147
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 4: so that's what I'm saying. A lot of that is

1148
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 4: not playing well. You know, I don't even think he

1149
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 4: wants that.

1150
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. He said he doesn't. He said

1151
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 3: give it to Wemby.

1152
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1153
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 2: You know, I'll say this and I do think so

1154
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: my original premise, I do think he went from overrated

1155
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: or underrated to overrated in a year. And I say

1156
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: that because if you remember, and I tell j mart

1157
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: this all the time, but the ascension and I understand,

1158
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: we live in a media ecosystem where everybody's opinion has

1159
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: to be stronger than the last one.

1160
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 3: So if you remember last year.

1161
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: It went from wow, he's really good to he's the

1162
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: best young player in the league to maybe he's the

1163
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,479
Speaker 2: most talented player in the league too.

1164
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 3: Is he already the best player in the league.

1165
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 4: Two?

1166
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: Is he the next Michael Jordan? That all happened in

1167
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 2: like a five week period.

1168
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 4: Two he's Michael Jordan's son.

1169
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm saying.

1170
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: And so and watching these playoffs, and I think the

1171
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: immaturity in his behavior and how he speaks to fans whatever,

1172
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: I think it shows up on the court too, where

1173
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: there was yeah, where there were so many games where listen,

1174
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: a credit to the minnesot Timberwolves back to back Western

1175
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: Conference Finals, best run that they've ever had as a franchise.

1176
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: But if you really go back and look at it,

1177
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: first of all, the Lakers were an a you know

1178
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: what show in that opening round. I mean the stat

1179
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: still blows my mind, seven of forty seven in a

1180
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: clinching game from three and Minnesota won that series. Okay,

1181
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 2: Golden State, how does it go if Steph doesn't get hurt?

1182
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: And then you go to the OKC series where you know,

1183
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 2: you look at Ann Edwards stat lines, they're good.

1184
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: But there is also a little bit left. You know,

1185
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: he put up a lot of stats late in games

1186
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 3: when results were I'll tell you what. Well, I want

1187
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: to continue the conversation on Anthony Edwards. We'll do that

1188
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: in just a second. Let's get it over to the

1189
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 3: news desk for Steve di Seger and when we can

1190
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 3: continue the conversation on Anthony Edwards. Sorry second, I mean fine,

1191
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 3: throw it right over to you, but go ahead.

1192
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 6: Indiana PA series have eliminated New York, and we can

1193
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 6: update a stat What would you guess is the winning

1194
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 6: percentage of a team in the playoffs when they're up

1195
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 6: at home by fifteen points or more going to the

1196
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 6: fourth Because Indiana did have a strong third quarter they

1197
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 6: had such a league going to the fourth tonight. The answer,

1198
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 6: it's an over ninety nine percent winning percentage in the

1199
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 6: shot clock eras, but.

1200
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: How many times before today did a baseball and basketball seam.

1201
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 3: Lose by fifteen plus?

1202
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 6: Never New York congratulations, know the exact including the Pacers.

1203
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 3: Win holding on to that lead at home tonight.

1204
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 6: It's seven sixty three and six all time. Wow, when

1205
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 6: the home playoff team is up fifteen going to the

1206
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 6: fourth quarter in the postseason.

1207
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: Would the Knicks qualify as one of the six that?

1208
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know off the top of

1209
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: your head. But in game one, I don't know if

1210
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: they were up fifteen.

1211
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,479
Speaker 6: Fifteen, No, apparently the most recent was two years ago

1212
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 6: the Bucks blew such a game at home. But in

1213
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 6: Game six the Knicks have been eliminated. Indiana takes the

1214
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 6: East Finals. Pacers one twenty five one er eight over

1215
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 6: the Knicks. Pascal Siakam thirty one points. Tyrese Haliburton had

1216
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 6: twenty one points thirteen assists. NBA Finals start Thursday in

1217
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 6: Oklahoma City. Stanley Cup Finals start Wednesday, Florida at Edmonton.

1218
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 6: As for the late night baseball, the Pirates have just

1219
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 6: won five to nothing at San Diego. The Dodgers beat

1220
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 6: up the Yankees eighteen to two. Max Munsey two homers

1221
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 6: and seven RBIs Now the Nationals were ahead ten to

1222
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 6: nothing in the top of the first. In the late

1223
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 6: game on FS one at Arizona, the lead is now

1224
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 6: eleven to seven Washington. In the top of the seventh.

1225
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 6: Seattle got cal Raley's twenty second homer of the year

1226
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 6: and won in eleven innings over Minnesota five to four.

1227
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 6: Mets won Phillies loss, so the Mets and Phills are

1228
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 6: now tied for first place in the NL East. In

1229
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 6: the WNBA just one game Dallas rookie Page Beckers still

1230
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 6: in concussion protocol. Dallas lost at home one in six.

1231
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 6: Record They lost to Chicago ninety four eighty three.

1232
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: Chicago was one and four.

1233
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 6: Coco Golf won her third round match at the French Open.

1234
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,959
Speaker 6: Jessica Bagula and Madison Keys each advance on the men's

1235
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 6: side Number one. Yanick Center dominated at Novak Djokovic advanced

1236
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 6: as well. Scotti Scheffler leads that the Memorial by one

1237
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 6: stroke after a third round sixty eight. Paris Sonjerman took

1238
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 6: the Champions League final by a record score of five

1239
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 6: nothing over Inter Milan. US women's soccer won its exhibition

1240
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 6: in Minnesota three nothing over China. The American women play

1241
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 6: again Tuesday in Saint Louis against Jamaica. And there's a

1242
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 6: playoff in soccer going on right now with lafc is

1243
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 6: just tied up Mexico's Club America one to one. They're

1244
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 6: in the final minutes and that tying goal in the

1245
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 6: eighty ninth minute. The winner tonight gets the final spot

1246
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 6: in next month's Club World Cup, which starts in a

1247
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 6: couple week, and yes, the two people that we saw

1248
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 6: in the Champions League Final are going to be here

1249
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 6: and back to you, Thank you very much.

1250
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: Steve de segar Segur will rejoin us in about ten

1251
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: minutes from now with his extended Saturday update, getting you

1252
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: caught up on even more that you missed throughout your

1253
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: Saturday Fox Sports Radio Aeron Torres Olden polonies. All right,

1254
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: so let's continue a conversation with ant Man, because.

1255
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 4: But I had I had something to say before that.

1256
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 3: Please God, no, I don't mind it.

1257
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 4: Can you tell Steve to stop giving that Yankee score? Please?

1258
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: Wow?

1259
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean they did become the first city

1260
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: to have a team lose by fifteen and five.

1261
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 4: I don't need the head, you know. Just say the

1262
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 4: Dodgers beat the Yankees and I'll be okay. That's all

1263
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 4: I'm That's all I have to say.

1264
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 2: A lot too, a little well, a lot too, a

1265
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: little google it. Yeah, that's the update, going for it. Yeah,

1266
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 2: Yankees get blown out.

1267
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 4: Oh my god, there you go.

1268
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 3: But they have the biggest and they're the head in

1269
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 3: the division.

1270
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if we lose by one or whatever

1271
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 4: that number is. We lost it. That's all I'm.

1272
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: Saying, Dodgers looking for the series sweep Sunday night.

1273
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife's.

1274
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 4: Aunt is going anyway.

1275
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Anthony Edwards.

1276
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: So so yeah, no, So I just I think if

1277
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: you don't watch the games, you just look at the

1278
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: stats at the end. And I understand that. You know,

1279
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: Bride just played the sound of him after games, after

1280
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 2: game five, but nineteen points in game five, sixteen on

1281
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: five of thirteen in game four, But you just look

1282
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: at it, and it's just I just every time I

1283
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: watch him, I think there's something to be left to

1284
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: be desired. Now that doesn't mean that he won't eventually

1285
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: be the best player in the league or whatever, but

1286
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 2: it's just I just think that we were so quick

1287
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 2: to anoint him.

1288
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 3: Not you and I we but we as the media.

1289
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just see a dude who has all

1290
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: the tools in the toolbox that just I just don't

1291
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: think he I don't even think it's that he doesn't

1292
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: know how to use him. I just think that he's

1293
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: just misusing them at this point.

1294
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 4: He's young, that's number one. Number two, he's he's almost

1295
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 4: a stat filler, you know, That's what I feel like.

1296
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 4: That pattern it's like, yeah, you know, you're right. You

1297
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 4: know most of his points, you know, they come in

1298
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 4: when the game's over. But let me ask you this

1299
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 4: to be the face of the league and everything else,

1300
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 4: and I do agree to a certain extent. You know,

1301
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 4: at first he was kind of like underrated, and now

1302
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 4: I can see the overrated statement being made. Does Anthony

1303
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 4: Edwards make his teammates better when he's on the floor,

1304
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 4: Nicola Jokic, does you know? Because he looks out for

1305
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 4: his teammates with his passing, his rebounding, communication, scoring. Steph

1306
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 4: Curry makes his teammates better as Egos, so does the Warriors.

1307
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 4: Lebron James makes teammates better, Luca makes teammates better. Caliburn

1308
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 4: makes teammates better. I don't see that with Anthony. I

1309
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 4: just don't see it. It's all about him, and until

1310
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 4: he he figures that out, it's gonna be a problem.

1311
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: So I asked you this, and again it's a different context.

1312
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 2: So I asked you earlier in the hour. Zion Williamson

1313
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: going through a lot of personal stuff, and I just said,

1314
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 2: is anybody gonna be able to get through to him?

1315
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 2: Do you think somebody will eventually get through to Anthony,

1316
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: you know, and they're famous stories throughout basketball of on

1317
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: the court. We're obviously talking strictly Anthony Edwards on the

1318
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: court and he met you know, you're playing days against

1319
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's stuff. But the famous stories of pre Phil

1320
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 2: Jackson versus post Phil Jackson and all of that. Do

1321
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 2: you think somebody will eventually get through to Anthony Because

1322
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 2: I think it's a great point that I hadn't really

1323
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 2: thought of, is it's almost like he's playing his own

1324
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: game independent of the other four guys on the floor,

1325
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 2: and he gets his stats. I think a lot of

1326
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: times late in games when it's decided one way or

1327
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: the other. But to your point, I don't see a

1328
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 2: guy that right now in his career, and he is

1329
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 2: still very young, but I don't see a guy that

1330
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 2: makes a lot of people better around.

1331
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 4: No, not at all. But I would say if they

1332
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 4: were able to pull the trigger on Kevin Durant, that

1333
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 4: makes a big difference. Now you have an All Star,

1334
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 4: all NBA Hall of Famer, top fifty, top twenty five,

1335
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 4: you know, guy that you defer to, And so that

1336
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 4: changed the dynamics for Anthony Edwards, you know, because I

1337
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 4: still don't believe he's a one. I think he's a

1338
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 4: great two. You know, he needs somebody else, but he

1339
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 4: needs somebody that he can respect. He doesn't respect Julius

1340
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 4: Randall and Julius Rand's not better than him. So and

1341
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 4: there's nobody else right now. He's the one and so

1342
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 4: to me, those are the things that the Timberwolves, you know,

1343
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 4: Tim Connelly's going to have to figure out because you know,

1344
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 4: this young man again, he's still twenty three years old,

1345
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 4: but he needs a better veteran on that team. It's

1346
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 4: not Mike Conley. Mike Conley's done. He needs a top

1347
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 4: notch veteran that can come in that he can look

1348
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 4: at and see how he works, how he makes teammates better.

1349
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 2: Don't you think don't you think some of that maturity

1350
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: should have come from the Olympic team last summer. I

1351
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 2: know it's only a three to four week window, but

1352
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: you're around those dudes twenty four hours a day. You're

1353
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: practicing with him early in the summer, you're traveling with him,

1354
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 2: you're spending time with him. Because that's the thing that's

1355
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 2: kind of disappointed to me is I thought we are

1356
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 2: kind of seeing an evolution of Anthony Edwards from a

1357
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: personality perspective, after being around Steph and Lebron and you

1358
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: know some of the you know, even the young guys

1359
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum is composed in whatever you know, Derek White.

1360
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 3: And just didn't feel like it happened.

1361
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 2: I feel like that should have been the moment where

1362
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: he kind of was like, Okay, this is what I

1363
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: have to do.

1364
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 3: It's kind of take it to the next level.

1365
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you saw it. But you can only do so much,

1366
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 4: you know, based on what you are willing to do. Yep,

1367
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 4: you know he can talk to Steph all day, but

1368
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 4: is he willing to give the ball up? Steph is

1369
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 4: willing to give the ball up and get it back,

1370
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 4: but I don't think he is. And again, his style

1371
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 4: of play is different as well, so there's so many

1372
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 4: different components fro him and to me, like I said,

1373
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 4: it's just it's tough, you know. Yeah, I was in

1374
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 4: the Olympics with all these guys, the great players, you know,

1375
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 4: Durance and everybody. But you can say a lot of

1376
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: the great stuff for the sound bites. Sure, which one

1377
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 4: do you really honestly believe? Yep? And embrace you know, no.

1378
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: And it's totally fair.

1379
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: And you know, he had a couple of interesting sound

1380
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 2: bites throughout the playoffs in terms of you know, he

1381
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 2: said something about uh.

1382
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 3: I think it was after Game four.

1383
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 2: They asked him if he was disappointed in his effort,

1384
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 2: and he's like, I didn't take enough shots to be

1385
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 2: disappointed or whatever, and it's like, you know, stuff like that.

1386
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 4: He needs help. He's another one that needs help. He

1387
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 4: needs somebody in his corner.

1388
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, and I think in his case it's just

1389
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 2: veterans guys that, like you said, he has to kind

1390
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: of fall in line and respect and all that.

1391
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 3: So Timberwolves are out.

1392
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 2: They lose to Okase earlier in the week, and Okase,

1393
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: of course we'll face Indy in the NBA finals. Fox

1394
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Aeron Torres Olden polinice in for Jason Martin

1395
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: will come back old in every show at about nine

1396
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 2: to forty five Pacific. We get it over the news

1397
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 2: desk to Seger gets extended updates full of stats from

1398
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: Yankees games. So we're gonna go ahead and do that next.

1399
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,799
Speaker 2: Just talk about the Yankees for maybe fifteen straight minutes.

1400
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: I think they lost the Dodgers today. We'll do that

1401
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 2: next Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

1402
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Torres, Olden Polonyes Olden Polonies is in for Jason Martin.

1403
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 2: Jason Martin actually following us at two am Eastern time.

1404
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: He is filling in for Bernie Fratto.

1405
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 3: All right, so j Martin may be out.

1406
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: But every Saturday Sunday morning around this time, we do

1407
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 2: toss it over the news desk. Steve de Sager, give

1408
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 2: us the extended update, everything we missed, and if you

1409
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 2: want to lead with the Dodgers Yankees, I don't feel

1410
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 2: free to give us that final score too. K.

1411
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was eighteen to two.

1412
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 6: Oh, we will get to a lot of NBA. But

1413
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 6: since you tak college baseball and this is the regionals

1414
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 6: weekend for college.

1415
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 2: Shase, I didn't, so my eyes are bad. I thought

1416
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: it was seven nothing Texas, and then I saw go ahead,

1417
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 2: I know what you're gonna go with.

1418
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 3: No, No, I was gonna go to Vanderbilt. Go what

1419
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 3: you got Texas?

1420
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 2: I think is the number two seed they in the

1421
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 2: overall tournament and they just lost it home to utsa.

1422
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 4: Number one seed.

1423
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 3: Well they're number one in that little region there. I

1424
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 3: think Vandy is the number one overall seed in tournament.

1425
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 3: But it's double eliminations. It's double yeah, yeah.

1426
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: But still but I mean, Texas was in the UTSA

1427
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 2: is feels pretty big. But so anyways, my eyes are

1428
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: starting to get bad. I thought Texas was up seven nothing,

1429
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: UTSA was up nine to seven. I see UTSA running

1430
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: out of the dugout celebrating. I'm trying to figure out

1431
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: what's going on. So my eyes are getting bad.

1432
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 3: That that's the theme. I need to see enough to AFG.

1433
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, Texas softball had not beaten rival Oklahoma in the

1434
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 6: state of Oklahoma in over it decade until today in

1435
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 6: Oklahoma City, where the Women's College World Series is beat

1436
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 6: the Sooners four to two to make the SEMIS again

1437
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 6: double elimination. Sooners defending champs, not out yet, but they

1438
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 6: are in the College World Series for a ninth straight time.

1439
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 6: Texas Tech beat UCLA women three to one. But as

1440
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 6: far as the baseball this weekend, and they're only at

1441
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 6: the regionals. They's got the best of three super Regionals

1442
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 6: coming next weekend. But number one Vanderbilt is hosting in

1443
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 6: Nashville this weekend and lost to Louisville.

1444
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 4: Three to two.

1445
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 6: And Louisville had won its openers, so it is two

1446
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 6: and zero so far, and UCLA is hosting a regional

1447
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 6: this weekend, and the Bruins have pounded two opponents in

1448
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 6: a row. And Georgia Tech's having a good weekend so

1449
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 6: far as well, won their opener yesterday, and excuse me,

1450
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 6: Murray State, I mean, had won the opener yesterday at

1451
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 6: number ten Old Miss, and then Murray State beat Georgia

1452
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 6: Tech thirteen to eleven tonight. Now, the NBA Finals start

1453
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 6: on Thursday evening, Oklahoma City hosting a four seed the

1454
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 6: Indiana pay Game two will be a week from Sunday,

1455
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 6: June eighth, which means we won't get a basketball game

1456
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 6: back at Indiana for another week and a half from

1457
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 6: tonight because Game three is not till Wednesday, June eleventh

1458
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 6: at Indiana. But Associated Press reprinted apparently over the decades,

1459
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 6: what were the longest odds at the start of the

1460
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,480
Speaker 6: playoffs for a team that wound up reaching the finals

1461
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 6: that year? The Pacers some of the longest odds. They

1462
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 6: were listed at plus eight thousand to start this postseason.

1463
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 6: If I'm reading that right, that means you get an

1464
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 6: eight hundred dollars profit on a ten dollars bet. Well,

1465
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 6: they're on the doorstep now. The Pacers, a four seed,

1466
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 6: are in the NBA Finals, apparently the longest shot to

1467
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 6: make the finals compared to their odds at the start

1468
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 6: of the postseason two years ago Miami's run, and for

1469
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 6: the first time since two thousand and seven, our finals

1470
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 6: matchup is two teams not selected to play on Chrismas,

1471
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 6: which goes something that you were talking about early in

1472
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 6: the show. Because there are five games on Christmas these days,

1473
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 6: that's ten different teams we're talking about. So I looked

1474
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 6: up the Christmas schedule from this season in the NBA

1475
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 6: first game with the.

1476
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 2: Knicks, I was gonna I was gonna get Can we

1477
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 2: guess the ten teams? It was definitely, Yeah, all right,

1478
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 2: so it's definitely Nick, Celtics, Lakers, Warriors, Nuggets certainly played.

1479
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, Nick, Knicks were one game. Celtics were a separate game,

1480
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 6: Nuggets were a separate game. Lakers versus Warriors, and Minnesota

1481
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 6: was a game.

1482
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 4: As Clippers, right, Clippers were there.

1483
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 6: No, the late game was the Nuggets and Suns at

1484
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 6: this year's Christmas schedule none, Yes, you are correct. At

1485
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 6: noon Eastern on Christmas Day, which is now owned by

1486
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 6: the NFL. Yeah, so anyway, two teams that were not

1487
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 6: selected to play on Christmas are your two teams remaining,

1488
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 6: which gets me too, and it will be curious for me.

1489
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 6: It's not the be all and end all, but what

1490
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 6: will the TV ratings fee for this matchup? We got

1491
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 6: the MVP of the league in the finals, so it's

1492
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 6: not like there's nothing to watch here people. But the

1493
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 6: last three years the NBA Finals have been averaging about

1494
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 6: eleven to twelve million viewers for the final series. The

1495
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 6: lowest rated was under ten million viewers going back almost

1496
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 6: twenty years when the young Cleveland team got swept by

1497
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 6: San Antonio. So we'll see how it gets judged this

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Speaker 6: coming next week or two the NBA Finals TV. Now

1499
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 6: the late game in baseball is on FS one, and

1500
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 6: the Washington Nationals led in the top of the first

1501
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 6: ten to nothing. They sent eleven batters to the plate

1502
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 6: and still not an out had been recorded. Apparently, those

1503
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 6: eleven batters without and out tied the longest start of

1504
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 6: a game streak in the expansion era going back about

1505
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 6: sixty years for reaching safely to begin either getting on

1506
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 6: with hit batter, and they had a couple of those

1507
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 6: tonight or with a hit itself. And yet the game's

1508
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 6: not over. It's Washington eleven to seven at Arizona right now,

1509
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 6: bottom of the eighth on FS one. But everything else

1510
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 6: is final. The Yankees had been dominant the last three weeks.

1511
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 6: Their record had been well. They had won sixteen of

1512
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 6: their last twenty games going into this weekend at Dodger

1513
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 6: Stadium World Series rematch. Somehow they lost the game last night,

1514
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 6: the opener of the three game set, even though seven

1515
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,560
Speaker 6: to zero, Max Freed was on the mound and the

1516
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 6: Yankees hit four early homers, and they still led five

1517
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 6: to two in the sixth and couldn't close it out.

1518
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 6: And then tonight Yankees were down ten to nothing in

1519
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 6: the second inning. Dodgers eventually five home runs in the game,

1520
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 6: eighteen to the final. The Dodger record in the last

1521
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 6: four weeks had been eleven and twelve going into the weekend,

1522
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 6: and nobody will remember that if they closed out a sweep.

1523
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 6: It's tomorrow night's hosting the.

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01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: Yanks, Thank you very much, Steve seger Sis Fox Sports Radio,

1525
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday into Sunday air Tors Olden, polonies in

1526
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: for Jason Martin and Busy Night. By the way, didn't

1527
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 2: mention the did you mention the other softball score? Texas

1528
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 2: Tech with their million dollar pitcher gets the win over UCLA,

1529
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 2: So Nazorie Kennedy got the win there, I'm I'm Chris

1530
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 2: Plank has gotten me into college softball. So I don't

1531
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: know if you were on air last night for the

1532
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: walk off walk Oregon old Miss Yeah.

1533
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 3: So the picture you're from Stanford you're talking about, Yeah,

1534
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 3: Nadre Kennedy was the picture from Stanford? Is great with them?

1535
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, great with them at Texas Tech. A million

1536
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: dollars in nil for a softball and coming through Yeah,

1537
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: and coming through well. Texas Tech advanced in the College

1538
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 2: World Series as well. So tell you what, We'll come

1539
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 2: back revisit Indiana, New York Game six, Indie going to

1540
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:40,799
Speaker 2: the finals.

1541
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 3: How do they match up with OKC? That's next. Fox

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01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 3: Sports rad.

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01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1544
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody our three Fox Sports Radio Aaron torres

1545
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 2: Old and polonies in for Jason Martin. I've said it

1546
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 2: a few times, but Jason Martin will be filling in

1547
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: for Bernie Fratto top of this hour, So make sure

1548
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 2: to uh to stay tuned, keep locked in. Jay mart

1549
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 2: will be taking you through the evening. He's coming up

1550
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: in one hour from from now. He is got a

1551
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: lot to say, I know, Jay Martin's got a lot

1552
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: on a lot of different topics from throughout the week

1553
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: in sports, big topic from Saturday into Sunday. As we

1554
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 2: all know now, NBA Finals are set Indiana Pacers. As

1555
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: the SEGA just told you, take care of the New

1556
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: York Knicks. Final score at Gamebridge field House one twenty

1557
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 2: five one oh eight is the final score. Pacers advance.

1558
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: They will face the Oklahoma City Thunder. Series starts Thursday,

1559
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:50,839
Speaker 2: Game one in Oklahoma City. I want to start looking ahead, Olden,

1560
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: but any any you know we for people who missed

1561
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 2: it, you go back and down to the podcast. We talked

1562
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: a lot about this game earlier in the show, but

1563
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 2: just really quick, any closing thoughts on this series. It

1564
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: could be from the Pacers' perspective, it could be from

1565
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 2: the knickt perspective. But Indiana does win the series in

1566
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: six and is headed to the NBA Finals.

1567
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 4: Well, definitely I have some thoughts. Number One, the Knick's

1568
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 4: guy do a better job of learning how to utilize

1569
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 4: every player that they have on their roster, you know.

1570
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 4: And that's one of the things I do like about

1571
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 4: the Warriors, as Steve Kerr does during the regular season,

1572
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,440
Speaker 4: He'll play young guys early on just to get them

1573
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 4: acclimated and used to playing and you know, giving them

1574
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 4: that belief in that sense of belief. And I don't

1575
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 4: think Thibodeau does that well with his teams. You know.

1576
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 4: We've seen it with the Bulls, We've seen it with Minnesota.

1577
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 4: You know, he's so stuck in his ways. And one

1578
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 4: of the things I don't like about him, like he'll

1579
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 4: stand there with his arms crossed with that mad look

1580
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 4: on his face. I'm like, dude, no coach, you know,

1581
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 4: try coaching guy turning the ball over. Get them. I'll

1582
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 4: get some new guys in, you know. You can't just

1583
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 4: keep letting them turn the ball over. And the thing

1584
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 4: about it, it was like really unforced errors, you know,

1585
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 4: that cost them the game. So those are some of

1586
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 4: the things. And it needs a couple of pieces too.

1587
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 4: They need some other guys, you know, But.

1588
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 3: Will tips play them though, Yeah, great.

1589
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 4: Point, never mind. But Indiana, I mean, they made it

1590
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 4: to the finals. They they played their game. I do

1591
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 4: believe once again that Game one was the key. Once

1592
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 4: that happened, the Knicks were done. In my opinion, they

1593
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 4: were done after that, because there's no way. It was like,

1594
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 4: I don't know what the percentages, but it's damned in

1595
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 4: ninety nine point eight.

1596
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this.

1597
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 2: As a former athlete, it's cliche for guys like me

1598
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 2: to say this, that never played at the level that

1599
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 2: you did. But is it as simple as I mean,

1600
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 2: you're up fourteen points with two and a half minutes

1601
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,799
Speaker 2: to go at home Game one. I know everybody's supposed

1602
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 2: to just move on for that and oh your but

1603
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 2: I do imagine that it's hard to just say, Okay,

1604
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 2: it's one of seven, let's move on when you lose

1605
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: in the manner.

1606
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 4: That you did. But it's not one of seven. You

1607
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 4: lost home court, You lost momentum, You lost anything and

1608
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 4: everything that you could have had in that moment because

1609
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 4: for all the the pre celebration that you had leading

1610
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 4: up to that point, you up fourteen points two minutes

1611
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 4: forty seconds, the fans, some fans were theyad left. I

1612
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 4: literally said to my brother I was on the phone

1613
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 4: with and I said, all right, this game is over.

1614
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 4: Let's see what else is on. What am I gonna

1615
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 4: watch now? I literally said that because I'm like, this

1616
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 4: game is over, because why I played this game long enough,

1617
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 4: and I know how to count. No time works too,

1618
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 4: I know how time works. I know there's twenty four

1619
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 4: seconds in a possession. Indiana comes down and scores, and

1620
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 4: actually the Knicks had the ball. You come down and

1621
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 4: score at sixteen, but you turn it over. Indiana comes

1622
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:09,919
Speaker 4: and scores. Okay, let's say they's amnestments. It's a three. Yep. Okay,

1623
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 4: So now there's to sixteen left. I get my possession.

1624
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 4: I run out the clock. I'll turn it over to you.

1625
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, come back down.

1626
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 4: There's not enough time for you to score the points

1627
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,759
Speaker 4: that you need. I'll turn it over three more times.

1628
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 4: Games over, you still need one more possession. That's how

1629
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 4: I think. And but it's like they scored a two.

1630
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 4: But it's like, why are you scoring with eighteen seconds

1631
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 4: on the shock clock. You don't need any more baskets

1632
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 4: they do.

1633
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 3: It's just interesting to me.

1634
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: And with TIBs, is that like when you really break

1635
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 2: it down. Listen, guy, clearly knows more than basketball. I'm

1636
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 2: not going to be the guy, oh he's the worst

1637
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 2: coach ever, But it's like, that's what I'm saying. It's

1638
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:08,839
Speaker 2: like for a guy that you know. I think prior

1639
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 2: to this series, I think the rep was Listen Bulls

1640
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference finals de Rose getser. I think

1641
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 2: the criticism was doesn't play enough guys. But what I

1642
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: do think that I watched as a casual observer, not

1643
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: not having played at the level that you did, I

1644
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 2: don't see a lot there with TIBs, Like, I think

1645
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: he's a guy ass pictures.

1646
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: And that's what you know.

1647
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 2: And I do think there are coaches that can take

1648
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 2: a bad situation and elevate it that can't get it

1649
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 2: to another level. And I think the Knicks have kind

1650
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: of hit their ceiling with him as a head coach,

1651
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1652
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 4: I believe that as well. But now you know, we

1653
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 4: have a couple of guys that did get fired that

1654
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 4: are looking for work. Yeah, Mike Malone's gonna get a job,

1655
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 4: I know. And there's a couple of attractive teams out

1656
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,759
Speaker 4: there where he would fit perfectly. And so to me, again,

1657
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 4: I said this before it's like sometimes you just need

1658
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 4: a new voice.

1659
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what is he your four year five tips.

1660
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look it up real quick.

1661
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 4: That's all he can. That's all he got for you.

1662
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and I mean he.

1663
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:19,799
Speaker 4: Wears on everybody I know. Trust me, he's weighing on Brunson.

1664
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 3: I believe it.

1665
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 2: Well I mentioned I forget if I mentioned an on

1666
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: air or off air, but what stood out to me

1667
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 2: was the clinching game against the Celtics where Brunson was

1668
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: on the bench to start the I think he never

1669
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 2: came back in, but there were other starters in and

1670
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 2: Brunson went to him and was like, dude, you got

1671
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 2: to pull these guys, and then he didn't went back

1672
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 2: to the bench. I think it was Rick Brunson went

1673
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: to him, and then finally Jalen came over and was like, dude,

1674
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: you gotta get these guys out of there where they

1675
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 2: were up by thirty points in the fourth quarter of

1676
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 2: Game six or whatever.

1677
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 3: I think it was Game six against so they weren't.

1678
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like, yo, dude, you got it. Dude. He's

1679
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 4: standing there with his arms cruss up forty I know

1680
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 4: you don't need started if you lose that game. All

1681
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 4: y'all should be fired.

1682
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 3: I didn't realize Tims was so old, sixty seven years old.

1683
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he looks it.

1684
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 2: Can't can't teach an old dog Nutrix. Now he might

1685
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: look it. I mean I know that that comor. I mean,

1686
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 2: somebody's just gotta we just gotta whatever anyway, really quickly,

1687
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 2: and we got six days to break down the NBA Finals.

1688
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 2: But your first thoughts on Okay see versus Indiana. Other

1689
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 2: than that, just speaking to you, it seems like you're

1690
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 2: excited and you expect a good back and forth.

1691
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 4: I'm excited. I love basketball. I love good basketball, so

1692
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it. And what I'm really loving

1693
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 4: is the fact that, Okay, you have a championship coach

1694
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 4: in Rick Carlisle, you know, and they both play similar

1695
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 4: styles of basketball, you know, full court pressure defense, tenacious

1696
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 4: pressure defense at that and a fast pace. Indiana paces

1697
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 4: have the number one I mean, their pace of play

1698
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 4: is number one in the league. Then you flip it

1699
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 4: around in the West, Okay, see full corpreser defense. They

1700
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 4: got a lot of dogs, as they like to say,

1701
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 4: you got the MVP, you got a rising star in

1702
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 4: jail and William Yeah, j Dubb. But they got about

1703
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 4: one hundred years and so you have that whole thing

1704
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 4: going and a young, really smart, intelligent coach in dagnaut I,

1705
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 4: just like everything about them. You know what's so funny

1706
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,480
Speaker 4: about Okay, see what's up? They might win the championship

1707
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 4: and they got a nineteen year old still sitting there

1708
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 4: waiting that's like really really good Nicole topic. Oh yeah, yeah,

1709
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 4: hasn't played a game, but he's up and coming star.

1710
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 4: He's that good, a six', SIX i, mean just. Solid

1711
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 4: and they have ten thousand draft. Picks.

1712
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Still, well it's really funny and this probably is a

1713
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: conversation to say for after they win the. Championship but

1714
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 2: the rebuild that they, did it given everything right because

1715
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 2: you think it's, okay see you know you're not gonna

1716
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 2: get free, agents and you, know obviously we know how it.

1717
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 3: Ended katie. Leaves russ, stays you trade For Paul.

1718
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 2: George Paul george demands the, trade and they blow it,

1719
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 2: up and you just wonder are they ever going to get?

1720
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,759
Speaker 2: Back and only are they, back they're actually like built

1721
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 2: to sustain this thing for a long. TIME i, mean

1722
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 2: Shay shan's actually a little bit, older AND i thought

1723
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 2: he think he's closing on on twenty seven With Jayalen,

1724
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 2: williams like twenty one chets twenty twenty. One and as you,

1725
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 2: said they got all these draft, picks which is the crazy.

1726
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: Part and, YEAH i Mean i'm trying to think of who.

1727
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 3: Else you, know they have coming.

1728
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 4: Minimum seven year, run minimum seven year run because they get. Along,

1729
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 4: yep they get. Along it's a College that's WHY i,

1730
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,560
Speaker 4: said both teams they have a really a college atmosphereic

1731
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 4: type thing and they like each. Other they enjoy, it you,

1732
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 4: know being around each. Other LIKE i, said with the

1733
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 4: draft picks and all, That you're, right they did a

1734
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 4: rebuild without. Rebuilding, yeah you, know which is. Weird you,

1735
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 4: know they just kept. Rebuilding and also free. Agency the

1736
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 4: biggest free agency that free agents signing that they had Was. Hartenstein,

1737
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 4: yep that was huge for. Them he doesn't get enough,

1738
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 4: credit but that was a huge. Pickup he compliments so

1739
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 4: many of those.

1740
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 2: Guys let me ask you a question About, okay see

1741
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 2: here as we switch gears a little. Bit you, know

1742
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 2: you say they have a seven year. Run my only

1743
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 2: question to you would, be and you know we're not

1744
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 2: saying they're definitely gonna win or anything like. That but

1745
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 2: we would have said the same thing about The Denver

1746
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 2: nuggets three whatever it was three years ago and they

1747
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 2: won the, title haven't been back to the. Finals would

1748
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,639
Speaker 2: have said the same thing about The. BUCKS i think

1749
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 2: when they won the, title they haven't been.

1750
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 4: Back so.

1751
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 3: Is it fair to to like, say because it does

1752
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 3: feel like it is.

1753
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 2: Different it does feel, Different BUT i feel like we

1754
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 2: would have said the same thing About we did say

1755
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 2: the same thing about The nuggets when they.

1756
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 4: Won, NO i didn't Because jokic IS i, mean there's

1757
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 4: no words for. Him but they were questions With Jamal

1758
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 4: murray with his. Health there were questions with all the other.

1759
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 4: Players Michael porter jew Which Michael, porter jui is gonna show?

1760
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 4: Up sure you didn't know. That Aaron, gordon you, KNOW

1761
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 4: i love how he, plays but sometimes you, know it's

1762
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 4: it's a little. Iffy and of course they lost K,

1763
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 4: Cp Contavious, Colwell, pope they Lost Bruce brown and that hurt.

1764
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 4: Them you, know to, me it hurt them because that

1765
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 4: was a championship roster you. Had BUT i DON'T i

1766
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 4: didn't think they had enough to sustain a run okay

1767
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 4: see has enough with the jail And, williams both of,

1768
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 4: them but the jail j Dub, One, Kendridge, Williams Lou,

1769
01:31:52,560 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 4: Dort Joe, Isaiah Joe Case. WALLACE i mean they have

1770
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 4: Studs Chad, Holmgren, hattenstein the boy coming in next, year

1771
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 4: the nineteen year old. Topic then you got draft picks

1772
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 4: still coming. In AND i promise you, this there's a

1773
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 4: couple of players out there that are really interested in

1774
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 4: playing with.

1775
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 3: Them, oh you want to break some.

1776
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 2: News lebron To Oka see right now at one fourteen

1777
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 2: Eastern bronto his.

1778
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 4: House it's enough, Already.

1779
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 3: Well good, NEWS i, mean, WELL i MEAN i don't.

1780
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 3: KNOW i, mean because the thing is With.

1781
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 2: Lebron of, course you, KNOW i would assume that That

1782
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 2: bronni would be part of a trade, too as well

1783
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 2: as Maybe. Bryce bryce is only a year removed as.

1784
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 2: Well so, anyway But oka See INDIANA Nba final series

1785
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 2: does open On. Thursday by the Way i'm looking right,

1786
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 2: now okay see HAS i don't know about this, year

1787
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 2: but next year they have one first round, pick seven

1788
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 2: to first, round two first round, picks twenty twenty eight

1789
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 2: to first round, picks and.

1790
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 4: They can give all those up right?

1791
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 3: Now, well, yeah, no it's.

1792
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 2: Funny i'll say this really quick because we got a

1793
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 2: lot of other stuff to get.

1794
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 3: To BUT i was thinking about.

1795
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 2: THIS i think with so many of these other, teams

1796
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 2: they have to draft, young cheap labor because so much

1797
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 2: money is caught up in these big, contracts like The. Celtics,

1798
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 2: right all the money's caught up In tatum And. BROWN

1799
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 2: i Know tatum's, hurt but you get the. Point so

1800
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 2: you need to draft older college players that are on cheap,

1801
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 2: contracts almost like in, football, right you want those rookie. Contracts, yeah,

1802
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 2: okay c he's the only one That it's, like they

1803
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 2: can't draft anybody that's good enough to play extra because.

1804
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 3: There's no spot for this.

1805
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 2: Spot and so they're gonna be the ones that are

1806
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 2: drafting the nineteen year old with all upside and stuff like.

1807
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 4: That give you, Know i'll trade, this you, know shoot

1808
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 4: IF i can get IF i can get you know

1809
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 4: who back To Oklahoma? City oh my?

1810
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 3: Good would?

1811
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 4: You oh, YEAH i would do. IT i don't, know, Man,

1812
01:33:58,840 --> 01:33:59,799
Speaker 4: right it's finish.

1813
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 2: Out why not when when the title first this? Year

1814
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 2: then maybe we can have that conversation because it's not a.

1815
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 4: Full gun thing. Though that's What i'm, Saying adiana, man and,

1816
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 4: listen they thought that about The cleveland. Series OH i,

1817
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 4: Know And i'm, like, dude these boys they. Bawling, no,

1818
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 4: listen they got, swaged they got they got dog in them. Too.

1819
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 4: Now H So i'm looking forward to this series.

1820
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: Methotic by the, WAY okc has the fifteenth and twenty

1821
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 2: fourth picks in the UPCOMING nba, draft so.

1822
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 4: They still have first round. Picks it's. Unbelievable it's the

1823
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 4: most insane. Thing Sam pressey is THE gm of the, MILLENNIUM.

1824
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 3: I, know of the.

1825
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 4: Forever it's.

1826
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 2: UNBELIEVABLE i, mean it really. Is and, again we can

1827
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 2: save that conversation for after they win the. Championship but if,

1828
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 2: Yes that's What i'm saying, though is it's a little too.

1829
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 4: Early if you keep saying they're gonna, win people want

1830
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 4: to tune.

1831
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 3: In, No, no WHAT i, MEAN i don't mean it like.

1832
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 2: That WHAT i mean is we shouldn't have have like

1833
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 2: the greatest rebuild ever conversation until they actually win a.

1834
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 2: Championship that's All i'm saying is because they had that

1835
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 2: window With Katie russ And harden and.

1836
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 3: Once that window blew, Up you're, like you, know they

1837
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 3: may never, bet and here they are a couple of years.

1838
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 2: Later So Fox Sports Radio Air Torres Olden, polonies we

1839
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 2: are broadcasting live from The Fox Sports Radio. Studios take

1840
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 2: it up until two Am. Eastern, well come. Back how

1841
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 2: about we talked about the other professional team In, indiana The. Fever,

1842
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 2: yes but.

1843
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 3: Do we care Another Kitlin clark cent Aer. Own we'll

1844
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 3: discuss that Next Fox Sports radio.

1845
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:38,280
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1846
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:46,639
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1847
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,720
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01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:54,120
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1849
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1850
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:58,120
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1851
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:02,960
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1852
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, studios taking it up till two Am. Eastern

1853
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,840
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1854
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,160
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1855
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1856
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1857
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1858
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1859
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:29,960
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1860
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 2: right all Then Indiana pacers headed to the. Finals but

1861
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 2: it's worth noting a couple of the members of The

1862
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 2: Indiana fever were in the. Building most, notably you may

1863
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 2: have heard it For Kaitlyn. Clark sadly for basketball, fans

1864
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,759
Speaker 2: or at LEAST wnba, fans or at Least Indiana fever.

1865
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 2: Fans Caitlin clark is out for at least the next

1866
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 2: week or. So she was out all of this, week

1867
01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: has missed the last couple. GAMES i believe The fever

1868
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 2: are zero to two since she got hurt dealing with

1869
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 2: a quad.

1870
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 3: INJURY i don't even know.

1871
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 4: What the question.

1872
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 2: IS i, MEAN i know WHAT i want to, ask

1873
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 2: and it seems Mean i'm a lot less interested in

1874
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 2: THE wnba Without Kaitlin. Clark But i'll let you take

1875
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 2: this topic wherever you. WANT i don't want to put words.

1876
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 4: Email I'm i'm. Not i'm, interested But i'm. NOT i

1877
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 4: Think Caitlyn clark brings so much, value and it's kind

1878
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 4: of like what we've been talking. About it's, like you,

1879
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 4: know like THE nba face of the. League you, know

1880
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 4: they try to do it with THE. Wnba but it's,

1881
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 4: like you have a face of the, league somebody that's

1882
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 4: really really really really good, yep that moves the, needle

1883
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 4: that brings fans to the, arena and you don't take

1884
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 4: advantage of. It it upsets me beyond. Belief and it's almost,

1885
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 4: LIKE i, mean When jordan came, IN i, know, yeah

1886
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 4: there was some, guys you, know like The All Star,

1887
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 4: game that whole, fiasco they was shutting them out and all.

1888
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 4: THAT i get all, that but it seems like the

1889
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 4: whole league is doing this cluck, yep and that's. Upsetting that's,

1890
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:16,679
Speaker 4: like why would you do that to your golden, goose

1891
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 4: your golden goose? Yep.

1892
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 2: Exactly, no it's it's one of the crazier Stories i've ever.

1893
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 2: Seen AND i think what's disappointing to me is That,

1894
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 2: listen if you want, to if you want to sit

1895
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 2: here and say that a year, ago you knew she

1896
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,640
Speaker 2: was popular in, college but you didn't know if it

1897
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 2: would translate and what it would mean for the.

1898
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 3: League, okay but this year you had a whole offseason

1899
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:42,799
Speaker 3: to get ready and. All it's the same exact.

1900
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 2: Thing it's the same exact thing where you, know game,

1901
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 2: one there's the follow and it turns into this story

1902
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 2: and then there's this investigation over this, nonsense and it's,

1903
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 2: like you, know and then the commissioner of this week

1904
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 2: was bragging, about, well you, KNOW i, mean our numbers

1905
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,080
Speaker 2: are up this, much this much and this, much and

1906
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 2: we we've been building for this. Moment, no you got

1907
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 2: a once in a history of the league ascending.

1908
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 3: Comment and that's.

1909
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 2: Why and, Listen i'm not saying you have to give

1910
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 2: her all the, credit but the counter to that is

1911
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 2: you don't have to do the glowing you, know interview

1912
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 2: where you're taking all of the credit basically for the league's.

1913
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 2: Success and it's, like it's not like my frustration is

1914
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 2: it's not just the, Players like DO i think the

1915
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 2: players should be?

1916
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 3: Jealous?

1917
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 2: No but DO i understand it to a? DEGREE i,

1918
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 2: Do but the commissioner of the league either doesn't get

1919
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 2: it or doesn't want to acknowledge. It we saw it

1920
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 2: with other coaches last. Year it was The Minnesota links.

1921
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:44,600
Speaker 2: Coach i'm blanking on her, name but she was The

1922
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,679
Speaker 2: olympic coach and, said this league is more than one. Player,

1923
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 2: okay maybe it, is but we only care about one of,

1924
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 2: them And i'm, sorry it's the. TRUTH i don't know

1925
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 2: what percentage it, is but there is a majority of

1926
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 2: the audience is there for one specific. Person so rather

1927
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 2: than fight, it embrace. It and it is a league wide,

1928
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 2: thing literally from the. Top with the, Commissioner i'll Surname Kathy,

1929
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 2: ingelbert THOUGH i don't think she knows what the heck she's.

1930
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,639
Speaker 2: Doing every time she, speaks it gets worse and. WORSE

1931
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 2: i just think it's a broad. EMBARRASSMENT i really.

1932
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 4: Do it really. Is AND i said this a while

1933
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 4: back With Dan. Bayer it's it's the, agendas but it's

1934
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,640
Speaker 4: the agendas with the W nba because none of this

1935
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:33,759
Speaker 4: is about, basketball and that's what's. Upsetting it's everybody has

1936
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 4: their own, agendas you, know whether it's Commission, angelbert it's the,

1937
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 4: Players Chicago, Sky Angel, rees it's. Everybody it's, like And

1938
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 4: i've watched since she's been, Out i've watched the the

1939
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 4: attendance of the games throughout the league and it's not.

1940
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,840
Speaker 4: Good SO i DON'T i don't care what they're talking.

1941
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 4: About they knew this thing was gonna translate to the

1942
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 4: W nba when they saw her At iowa because she

1943
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 4: was Doing Steph curry's stuff on the women's, side which was.

1944
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 4: Insane and that's what made everybody tune in because that's

1945
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 4: what we used to, Say, hey do you know they

1946
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 4: got this girl that plays just Like Steph curry shoots

1947
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 4: from half. Court that's what we would. Say and then

1948
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 4: when we saw, it, like oh my, god she's. Dope

1949
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 4: and so it's, like, good we want to see. This

1950
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 4: your league Needs Caitlin. Clark AND i still don't get.

1951
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 4: It they want to keep doing this, stuff, Man and

1952
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 4: that file was not a Flagrant.

1953
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 3: So CAN i tell you a quick story about?

1954
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 4: That my.

1955
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 2: God, So Jason martin is normally in this time so

1956
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 2: AND i specifically said to him that. Night we didn't

1957
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 2: even talk about that until like our three AND i, Said,

1958
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 2: jason that wasn't a big. Deal BUT i, SAID i

1959
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 2: guarantee you On, monday the usual suspects in the media

1960
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 2: are going to make it a big. DEAL i didn't

1961
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 2: think it was going to get quite to the level

1962
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 2: that it did with some of the.

1963
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 3: DISCOURSE i, mean.

1964
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 2: Even for The Caitlin Clark Angel reese, discourse it went

1965
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 2: to a level THAT i don't think anybody was ready

1966
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 2: For BUT i remember SAYING i said To, JASON i,

1967
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 2: SAID i, go people are going to make this into

1968
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 2: a thing when it.

1969
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 4: Was it wasn't even a hard, fight wasn't yes at.

1970
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 4: All that's why WHEN i didn't see the, game BUT

1971
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 4: i saw the replay AND i was, like wait a,

1972
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 4: minute what are they talking. About Wes west the flagrant.

1973
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 9: Agel rees shoved the back was a harder, Fall wes

1974
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 9: The flagwan won no, oh because she, flailed that was the.

1975
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 4: Flagrant come, on, stop they need to, stop seriously take

1976
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 4: care of The Golden goose and enjoy the.

1977
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 2: Ride and Then kate And clark dribbles to the, lane

1978
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:41,639
Speaker 2: gets too close Line Kurt rambis eighty eight style and it's.

1979
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 4: Like i'm telling, you the way they dropped the ball

1980
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 4: was that her rookie, year they scheduled her games against

1981
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 4: the two best defensive teams in the, league back to back.

1982
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 4: Games that was insane to. Me that told me EVERYTHING

1983
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 4: i need to know about THE. Wnba they don't care

1984
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 4: and they not rolling with her for whatever. REASONS i

1985
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 4: don't know what it, is but it's like the Goldens

1986
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 4: goose is handed to you and you don't protect and

1987
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:11,799
Speaker 4: take care of her stop.

1988
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 3: It, well there you, Go indiana.

1989
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 9: FEVER nba overdes. It oh, YEAH wnba UNDER. Nba Anthony,

1990
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 9: edwards he's the face of the. League he's the next. Shorted,

1991
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 9: no he's Not Caitlin. Clark she's, okay she's.

1992
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 3: Got to earn. It, okay all right.

1993
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 2: Whatever Fox Sports radio Airtors Olden polonies take it up

1994
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 2: till two Am eastern will come. Back speaking of a

1995
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 2: lack of self Awareness powers that be in college. Football

1996
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 2: we got to discuss this expansion that was discussed this.

1997
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 2: Week we'll do that in a, second but final time

1998
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 2: for our show this, Evening Steve, Seger what is trending

1999
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 2: here at one thirty Two Eastern?

2000
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 6: Times speaking of, Football the UFL's regular season ends On

2001
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 6: FOX Tv sunday with six and Three birmingham playing At.

2002
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 6: Memphis houston won its game At michigan nineteen twelve, today

2003
01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 6: attending sixteen thousand for The Spring league. Today and for

2004
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 6: those who miss The Dodger yankee game On fox, TONIGHT

2005
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 6: fs one is now. Replaying it's only two Nothing dodgers

2006
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 6: in the, first so there's a chance of a little comeback,

2007
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 6: here you. Know, no everything is, final not only in,

2008
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 6: baseball but everything in, sports, apparently even the late. GAME

2009
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 6: lafc won its soccer playoff Against Club america in overtime

2010
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 6: two to one for the final spot in next Month's

2011
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 6: Club World, cup and they now qualify Into chelsea's. Group

2012
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 6: the playoff winner tonight was going to be getting over

2013
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,719
Speaker 6: nine and a half million dollars in guaranteed prize money

2014
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 6: just by being in this tournament that starts in a

2015
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 6: couple of. Weeks this is to decide the best soccer

2016
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 6: club in the entire, world and THE us is hosting

2017
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 6: this tournament starting in Mid. June Real madrid's going to be,

2018
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 6: Here Manchester, City, Bayern, MUNICH lafc In seattle FROM. Mls

2019
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 6: the first game Is Messi's miami team playing at. Home

2020
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 6: the final eventually will be In New, jersey thirty two

2021
01:44:56,080 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 6: team Tournament Club World cup again THE us Hosting College World.

2022
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 6: Series texas Upset oklahoma In Oklahoma city four to two

2023
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 6: to make the. Semifinals Scottie scheffler leads The memorial by

2024
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 6: one Stroke coco go off. Winner third round match at

2025
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 6: The French open Parisn jerman took The Champions league final

2026
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 6: five nothing Over Inter, MILAN wnba one Game chicago a

2027
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 6: winner At. Dallas The Stanley Cup final Starts. WEDNESDAY Nba

2028
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 6: finals Start thursday In Oklahoma, city and The pacers will be.

2029
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 6: There indiana eliminated The knicks In game six of The

2030
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 6: East finals one twenty, five one oh. Eight Pascal siakam

2031
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 6: thirty one. Points he was Voted SERIES mvp five votes

2032
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 6: to four Over Tyrese, halliburton who had twenty one points

2033
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 6: thirteen Assists tonight for The Pacers Andrew nemhard eight assists

2034
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 6: and six. Steals the late game in baseball ON fs

2035
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 6: one Had washington up ten to nothing in the top

2036
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 6: of the. First they wound up winning At arizona eleven to.

2037
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 6: Seven losing Pitcher Brandon fodd had been seven to three

2038
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:56,679
Speaker 6: for The, diamondbacks but he did not get an out

2039
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 6: in the first. Inning pittsburgh a five to nothing winner

2040
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 6: At Sandyea. Jego The padres offense went two for twenty

2041
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 6: six At seattle Cal rawley with his twenty second homer this. Year,

2042
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 6: eventually in eleven, innings it Was mariners five to four Over.

2043
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 6: Minnesota The dodgers are without Shortstop Mookie betts this weekend

2044
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 6: due to a broken. Toe The dodgers had had a

2045
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 6: losing record the last four weeks going into this, weekend

2046
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 6: but they had a comeback win last night against The

2047
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 6: yankees and Pounded New york. Tonight it was ten to

2048
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 6: nothings second, inning eighteen to Two dodgers the FINAL la

2049
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 6: hit five home runs in the. Game Max munsey two,

2050
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 6: homers seven. RBIs Aaron judge did hit two out of the.

2051
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 6: Park he's up to twenty one homers this. Year in,

2052
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 6: fact he had three. Hits he's batting three ninety. Eight

2053
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 6: longtime baseball Writer Bob nightingale points out the stats most

2054
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 6: home runs over these last twelve, months so that's about

2055
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty games worth since Last june the

2056
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 6: First Aaron judge has fifty Nine Shoheo tani was sixty

2057
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:57,759
Speaker 6: two homers since Last. June the First. Wow dodgers record

2058
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 6: thirty six and twenty. Two yankees are thirty and twenty.

2059
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:03,799
Speaker 6: Two cleveland was down four to nothing in the, fourth

2060
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 6: but at home came back to beat The angels seven to.

2061
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 6: Five Mike, trout recently activated The ANGELS dh had three,

2062
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 6: hits who was batting average up to two Hundred atlanta

2063
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 6: Beat boston and Pitcher Walker bueller five, Nothing Ronald acunya

2064
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 6: two run. Homer Tampa bay won sixteen to three At

2065
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 6: Houston houston Slugger Jordan, alvarez who's out has a small

2066
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 6: fracture in his right. Hand Kansas city with a run

2067
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:28,719
Speaker 6: in the eighth Beat detroit won, nothing ending The tigers

2068
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 6: five game winning. Streak marlins only had three, hits but

2069
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 6: got a one nothing win Over San, francisco Beating Robbie,

2070
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 6: ray who had been seven to. Oh Saint louis a

2071
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,759
Speaker 6: two to nothing winner At Texas Sunny, gray the winning

2072
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 6: pitcher six and. One baltimore And toronto each one at

2073
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:46,599
Speaker 6: Home cubs as. Well milwaukee won its six straight games

2074
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 6: seventeen to seven At philadelphia was seventeen to two in

2075
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:53,680
Speaker 6: the Ninth Reyese hoskins two, homers six. RBIs phillies And

2076
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 6: mets now tied for first in THE Nl east because

2077
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 6: The mets Beat colorado again eight to. Two The mets

2078
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 6: have a home record of time twenty three and. Seven

2079
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 6: The rockies only have three road wins all season in

2080
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 6: these first couple of months three and twenty. Seven in

2081
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 6: the away games there are nine and forty nine, overall

2082
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:15,839
Speaker 6: And colorado has yet to win a series this, season

2083
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 6: losing these first two In New. York that means they're

2084
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,640
Speaker 6: oh to nineteen in series so.

2085
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 4: Far back to.

2086
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 3: You that's that's not.

2087
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 4: Good it's.

2088
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 3: Atrocious, ACTUALLY i want. Somebody it's too. Bad Bernie fratto's out.

2089
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 2: TONIGHT i need somebody to do The if you just

2090
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 2: bet against The rockies every single, game like you, know

2091
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 2: ten dollars or one hundred dollars or whatever to, lose just,

2092
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 2: yes to, Lose, yeah like how much money you would

2093
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 2: be up right? Now i'd be genuinely curious on. That,

2094
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 2: unfortunately our gambling expert is out this, week so maybe

2095
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 2: next week we'll touch base With bernie on. That but

2096
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 2: to say you have a great, evening, SAY i know

2097
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 2: you'll be back tomorrow with planket span here With willard

2098
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 2: and the gang as, Well so we appreciate you and

2099
01:48:58,280 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 2: have a great.

2100
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 6: Evening fus and you know That, arnie If oklahoma doesn't

2101
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 6: win in, Softball uh, oh first thing he's gonna say

2102
01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 6: when the show starts tomorrow night in this slot a

2103
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 6: PLANK i didn't think you're gonna show.

2104
01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 2: Up, yeah probably start with the tweets That i'm tagged

2105
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 2: on Of oh DO i need to call?

2106
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:19,719
Speaker 3: It Torres plank lost? Again what does it mean for.

2107
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 6: All the times we've seen weekends With Arnie's arizona, teams

2108
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:26,640
Speaker 6: whatever team in the athletic department losing and all the

2109
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 6: games he's shown.

2110
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 2: Up by the, Way Arnie's Arizona wildcats baseball team only

2111
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 2: needs one win to go to the Super. Regional So

2112
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:35,679
Speaker 2: i'm sure that's gonna go really well for him. Tomorrow

2113
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 2: so all, right To, sega all, RIGHT i have a great.

2114
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 2: Evening To, sega we appreciate. You tell you what is

2115
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 2: what we'll. Do we'll come, Back we'll wrap the, show

2116
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 2: talk a little bit of college, football and then look

2117
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 2: ahead To game one of THE Nba. Finals that's all.

2118
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 2: Next Fox Sports, Radio welcome back, Everybody Fox Sports. Radio

2119
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 2: Eric Torres olden polonies were taking you up till two

2120
01:49:56,280 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 2: Am Eastern. Time Jason marin fill it in For Ernie

2121
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 2: fraddle will follow. Us should mention once the show goes,

2122
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 2: final our podcast goes. Up if you missed any of today's, show,

2123
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,759
Speaker 2: boy don't we talk about a LOT Nba finals?

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Speaker 3: Preview?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 2: today's show posted after we get off. Air all old

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Speaker 2: them before we. Go let's just kind of wrap on

2134
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 2: a couple of different. Topics, one you just sent me

2135
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 2: a story THAT i think you broke the news originally

2136
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:43,679
Speaker 2: because you said earlier in the show That Kevin durant

2137
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 2: would be the perfect addition to This Minnesota timberwolves team

2138
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 2: that needs some, maturity that needs, somebody you, know a

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01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 2: veteran guy that could kind of, look, uh you, know

2140
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,280
Speaker 2: Look Anthony edwards in the in the eye and kind

2141
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 2: of get him in line and uh oops. Hoops wired

2142
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 2: earlier today posted an article where they said that they

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01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 2: expect The Minnesota timberwolves to Pursue Kevin. Durant So i'm

2144
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 2: guessing you are not very surprised by, that given that

2145
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 2: you just suggested it a mere moments before we saw the.

2146
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 4: Article oh, yeah not at. ALL i mean that was the.

2147
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 4: Talk doing the trade. Deadline The sons And timberwolves had,

2148
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 4: discussions and, unfortunately because this Whole First ape And Second,

2149
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,640
Speaker 4: apron that whole, craft THE nba came up with the financial,

2150
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 4: things it wasn't. Doable Plus, kevin you, know was squashing all,

2151
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 4: trades you, know because he didn't want to leave during

2152
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 4: the middle. Season but he's he's available now and all

2153
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 4: the moves that they were not allowed to make or

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01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 4: weren't capable of, making now that the season is over for,

2155
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 4: them they're able to. Do so keep an eye out

2156
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 4: for that. ONE i think that's that's a perfect situation

2157
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 4: For Kevin durant to finish out his. Career it Helps Anthony,

2158
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 4: edwards and it helps The Minnesota timberwolves really.

2159
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 3: Quick any thoughts on Where janice could end up this.

2160
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:04,840
Speaker 4: Offseason jannis has said he wants to go stay on

2161
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:08,000
Speaker 4: The East, coast so why wouldn't You it's the week

2162
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 4: of the two. Conferences BUT i could see him In.

2163
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:17,760
Speaker 4: BOSTON i could definitely See jannis with The Boston, Celtics

2164
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 4: Jailing brown being up for, grabs even Though Jason tatum's.

2165
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:24,640
Speaker 4: Out but, YEAH i could see that.

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01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 3: Happening so you think they would Trade Jalen.

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01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:31,639
Speaker 4: Brown, yeah the money matches or just goes to Another

2168
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 4: you can't Trade Jason tatum he's. Injured, NO i.

2169
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 3: Know i'm just, saying is.

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01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:38,799
Speaker 2: That it's just it would just be a weird situation

2171
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 2: For jannis BECAUSE i didn't have a ton of help

2172
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:45,439
Speaker 2: around him In milwaukee this, year especially After lillard went

2173
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 2: out with the blood cloud issue and then there obviously

2174
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 2: wouldn't be very much help if you Traded Jalen brown

2175
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:53,600
Speaker 2: And Jason tatum clearly is obviously not.

2176
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 4: Available AND i heard somebody Say, brooklyn But i'm, like

2177
01:52:56,840 --> 01:53:00,679
Speaker 4: why you might as well stay In. Milwaukee gonna be. Good,

2178
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 4: no that won't.

2179
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 3: Happen they just don't have the.

2180
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 4: Contracts, yeah they don't have. Enough just like you, KNOW

2181
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 4: i would love to see what The, warriors but The

2182
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 4: warriors don't have any pieces or any contracts outside Of

2183
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 4: Steph curry to give real.

2184
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 2: Quick do you think, next because because The warriors, listen you,

2185
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 2: know If steph stays, healthy who. Knows do you think

2186
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 2: there's a window here With Jimmy butler or do you

2187
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 2: just think they're three kind of older guys and probably not.

2188
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 4: REALISTIC i think they gonna stand pat only because the

2189
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 4: injury To. Steph, yeah it's like we don't know what

2190
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 4: we have, Technically but do you think they have enough?

2191
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:39,719
Speaker 4: Though like seeing, okay see they need a. Big, yeah

2192
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:41,599
Speaker 4: they need a BIG i don't care who it. Is

2193
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 4: they just need a big body that can chew gum

2194
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:46,560
Speaker 4: and run at the same. Time how are you?

2195
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 3: Feeling you think you gotta call?

2196
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:50,599
Speaker 4: It i'm. Done you don't. Know i'm a self aware.

2197
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 4: MAN i know my. Limitations i've been done twenty two.

2198
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 4: Years i've been. DONE i don't.

2199
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 3: Know it just sounds like you need a ten.

2200
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 4: Minutes, listen, Anybody Mitchell, ROBINSON i don't, Care Mark. Williams

2201
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:06,720
Speaker 4: go find some. Big but it's got to be a

2202
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:09,759
Speaker 4: big that can you, know that can play some. Defense

2203
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 4: that's all they. Missing draymond ten years. AGO i can

2204
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 4: understand him playing against, fives but he can't do that

2205
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 4: now with.

2206
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 3: Now with Chet you know what's.

2207
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 2: Funny this is kind of a random, topic but you,

2208
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:22,840
Speaker 2: Know i'll just throw it out there.

2209
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,679
Speaker 3: QUICKLY i was thinking about this WATCHING Okc.

2210
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:30,639
Speaker 2: Minnesota IF okc Dominated minnesota the way that they, did

2211
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:34,640
Speaker 2: And minnesota dominated The lakers in the manner that they.

2212
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 2: Did how far away are The lakers right?

2213
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 4: Now they Fall that's WHAT i, mean they fall. Away

2214
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 4: but you know what's so funny about The lakers is

2215
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 4: the fact that you look around the, league a lot

2216
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 4: of guys that Are All stars and everything else they

2217
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 4: played for The lakers at some point in. Time Julius

2218
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 4: randall brandon, Ing i'll tell you, This jayden, McDaniels.

2219
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 3: Jaden mc you, Know i'll tell you.

2220
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 2: THIS i went back after they got, eliminated AND i

2221
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 2: looked at the first roster that they had When lebron got.

2222
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:10,080
Speaker 2: There If lebron didn't want to BE gm And lebron

2223
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 2: didn't want to hand pick all of his, Teammates i'm

2224
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 2: Gonna i'm gonna tell you really quick because we got

2225
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:18,160
Speaker 2: a few minutes here before we're. Up the twenty Eighteen

2226
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 2: Los Angeles lakers. Roster, okay hold, on let's See Let's

2227
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 2: Angels lakers. Roster, Okay so let's see here is this twenty,

2228
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 2: eighteen twenty. NINETEEN i want to see if this is

2229
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 2: the right. ROSTER i think it. Is let me see

2230
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 2: it real. QUICK i didn't know we're going to do

2231
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 2: this topic BUT i went back and looked AND i was, Like,

2232
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 2: oh if they just hadn't done, anything they would be.

2233
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 2: Awesome so this is the roster From lebron's first. Year,

2234
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 2: ah we mentioned, him we mentioned Brandon ingram obviously has

2235
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 2: evolved into An all. Star let's see who. Else Moe

2236
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 2: wagner has turned into a very nice.

2237
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 4: PLAYER i forgot about him on The. Lake there's a

2238
01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 4: couple other.

2239
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 2: Ones how about a guy who's about to be in

2240
01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 2: THE Nba finals right, Now Alex. Caruso you know who

2241
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 2: else was on that? Team Josh hart For Los angeles

2242
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 2: playing It so, listen this is this is the. Lineup

2243
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 2: and Forget, lonzo who's. HURT cacp was on that team,

2244
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 2: Too so, YEAH, Kcp Alex, Caruso Josh, Hart Brandon, Ingram Kyle,

2245
01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 2: kuzma who you know, whatever he's a piece Uh Mo.

2246
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 3: Wagner that's a squad right. There But lebron is so.

2247
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 2: Stubborn he drives me, crazy, Dude And i'm you, know

2248
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:28,120
Speaker 2: you live in L a, too so you know.

2249
01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 3: This but it's like.

2250
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 2: All these people are, like, Oh, Polinka it's, like what

2251
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 2: do you Want polenka to?

2252
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 3: Do he has to do What lebron.

2253
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 2: Wants lebron wanted to trade For, westbrook and then somehow

2254
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 2: It's polenka's fault when it doesn't work. Out polenka got

2255
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:45,240
Speaker 2: The Anthony Davis deel, done he got The luca Docer steel.

2256
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 3: Done he has built.

2257
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 2: Teams Around lebron When, lebron it's just it drives me

2258
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 2: crazy that it's anyone. Other, listen you're in the. FRATERNITY

2259
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:56,839
Speaker 2: i don't know how much you could criticize. Players i'll

2260
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 2: do it all for. You it's just insane to me

2261
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 2: the criticism that anyone other Than.

2262
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 3: Lebron is taking for the current state of The.

2263
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 4: Lakers it's, tough, man you. Know but when the man and,

2264
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 4: Again i'm all for. Nepotism i'm gonna look out for

2265
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 4: all my kids IF i can do.

2266
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 3: It one of your kids was supposed to host for me.

2267
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 3: Today they told. ME i was, like what are you doing?

2268
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 4: Now but when that, happened it was, like he's not.

2269
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 4: Good if anybody else drafts, him we have a. Problem

2270
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 4: that was kind of like the statement and it was

2271
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 4: like only The lakers And i'm like when he did,

2272
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 4: THAT i was, Like, okay that's a very powerful.

2273
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 2: Man you, know And i'll say this, too it's embarrassing

2274
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 2: some of this revisionist history that they're trying to pull

2275
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 2: with lebron right, Now Like Rich paul coming out the

2276
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 2: other day and, saying, oh there was No big, Three

2277
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 2: bosh wasn't part of A big. Three it's, like that's

2278
01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 2: so insulting to a dude that was on the track

2279
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 2: to be A hall Of famer until he AND i

2280
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 2: think he still.

2281
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 3: Might be A hall Of. FAMER i don't even, know but, like.

2282
01:57:57,040 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 2: Dude average like twenty four and twelve the year before

2283
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 2: he got To, miami and it's like he sacrificed to

2284
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 2: win two championships and now you're trying to write him

2285
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:04,920
Speaker 2: out of.

2286
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 3: History it's like that's just one.

2287
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,800
Speaker 2: EXAMPLE i can't think of everything right, now but it's just,

2288
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 2: like it's unbelievable here.

2289
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 4: You say that remind me Of kendrick Lamar. Line so

2290
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 4: it's not a big, three it's just big.

2291
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 3: Me, yeah that's a that should be the that should.

2292
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 4: Be the lebron that's his. Mantra it's.

2293
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 2: Unbelievable so, yeah So bronni's, there you, Know but but,

2294
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 2: hey LIKE i, said they Got.

2295
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 3: Bronni so who.

2296
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 2: Knows maybe maybe the future is brighter Than i'm giving credit.

2297
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 2: For so, Anyway uh, YEAH i think that's. It really,

2298
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 2: quickly give me a, quick, quick quick. Prediction game One

2299
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 2: oka See indiana's hosting him Or indiana is visiting okayc

2300
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 2: For game one On.

2301
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 4: Thursday game, ONE i Believe indiana. Wins Why BECAUSE i

2302
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 4: Believe indiana. Wins that's The that's the gettable. Game sure

2303
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:53,919
Speaker 4: doesn't matter if it's in the. Finals that's the gettable,

2304
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 4: game both.

2305
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:57,839
Speaker 2: On the stage for the first time for both, teams

2306
01:58:58,160 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 2: and of course the Game indiana has played.

2307
01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 3: More But i'll tell you what we got To, yes

2308
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 3: we got a.

2309
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 7: Guy.

2310
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 3: Man it was, fun.

2311
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:08,160
Speaker 2: Dude we appreciate we appreciate you coming In Olden, polonies my.

2312
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 2: PLEASURE i appreciate you having. Anytime Jay mart's, out you're

2313
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 2: welcome to come join.

2314
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:13,680
Speaker 4: Us, yes you heard it live, People.

2315
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 2: Yes, anytime. Anytime we'll speaking Of Jason. Martin he's up

2316
01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 2: next filling it For Bernie fratto For Olden. Polonies I'm Aaron.

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