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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. That's right on a

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Speaker 1: final four weekend. It is fn A on FSR. Kevin Figures.

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Speaker 1: You can find me at k fig one on X.

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Speaker 2: You can find Adam at follow Adam a on X

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Speaker 2: at Adam that's right, Adam Ashland, what's going on.

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Speaker 3: I'm good to be here. We do have let me

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Speaker 3: tell you a big show for you tonight, Unlike last week,

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Speaker 3: the week before that, and over the last six months

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Speaker 3: since we've taken over the airwaves here at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Scott Shapiro. We got a good one for

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Speaker 3: you tonight. Two guests, not one, but two, two doubles

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Speaker 3: at the Saint two guests at the Okay, not at

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Speaker 3: the same time. We're gonna have one coming up. Top

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Speaker 3: of next hour. Mark Medina will join us to talk

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Speaker 3: about Luka Doncic and the latest there with the Hammy,

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Speaker 3: which we'll get into in just a little bit here,

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Speaker 3: and then, uh, what second.

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Speaker 2: Hour, Kevin, The final hour of the show was another fact. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the leading score and well I'm gonna ask him about

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Speaker 2: this to Adam so doma Clain by the ways, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about so he's a leaguing scorer in UCLA basketball

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Speaker 2: history was the leaguing scorer in Pac ten slash Pac

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Speaker 2: twelve history, but now UCLA's moved to the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: The Pac twelve is going to be revived next season

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Speaker 2: with the whole slew of state teams Boise State, San

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Speaker 3: Or a lot that zombie of a conference World war Z.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if Doma Clan is technically the

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Speaker 2: leaguing scorer in the Big Ten, or if that belongs

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Speaker 2: to like Zach Edy or something. I'm not exactly does

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Speaker 2: it do the record's transfer over I'm not one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent sure of how that works.

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Speaker 3: If anything speaks to modern college sports, it's this question

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Speaker 3: right here.

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Speaker 2: Hot shot. It is not going to be an interview

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Speaker 2: about this is your career donmic Clan, though I would

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Speaker 2: love to have that conversation with him. But Doma Clan

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Speaker 2: analysts for the Big Ten Network, so he's seen a

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Speaker 2: lot of Illinois, he's seen a lot of Michigan, two

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Speaker 2: of the final four teams on the men's side coming

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Speaker 2: up on Saturday, So we're gonna get into that and

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Speaker 2: a bunch of other college basketball topics that you and

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Speaker 2: see job, Tommy Lloyd turning down the un SEE job,

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Speaker 2: staying at Arizona, among other things, with Dom McClaine of

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten Network coming up in the final hour

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Speaker 2: of the.

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Speaker 3: Show, plus a little Raiders talk. They got a quarterback

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Speaker 3: before they got Fernando Mendoza, they got another quarterback. We'll

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Speaker 3: talk about Kirk Cousins. Is it Kurt or Kirk? I

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Speaker 3: can't remember at this point, Kevin. It's been misconstrued so

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Speaker 3: many different times, mis pronounced.

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Speaker 2: Wait has it? Has there been a Kurtz versus Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins thing that I'm not aware of.

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Speaker 3: Didn't somebody when they first brought him in I want

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Speaker 3: when they first brought him into Minnesota, the GM called

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Speaker 3: him Kurt instead of Kirk Cousins. Am I thinking of

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Speaker 3: And you know there's a certain sports talk host that

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Speaker 3: must have replayed that a million times. But yeah, we'll

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Speaker 3: talk about Kirk Cousins to the Raiders, and coming up

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Speaker 3: later this hour, a little bit of geek news for you.

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Speaker 3: And here's a hint of what we'll be discussing my

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Speaker 3: favorite topic, the reasons not to go back in the water.

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Speaker 2: It's your favorite topic, yet he doesn't go into the water, so.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can be fascinated from afar. Okay, I'm an observer.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's Kurt right there.

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Speaker 3: There's a Kurt. Do you like him going to the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into it a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: First off, though, that's wrong.

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Speaker 2: Something I don't like. And if you're a fan of

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Speaker 2: the NBA and a fan of great players, now granted,

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Speaker 2: if you're not a Laker fan, I guess you, you know,

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Speaker 2: love to wallow on the fact that they're not going

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Speaker 3: But you know, I'm a Laker hater, Kevin, and I

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Speaker 2: No one wants to see great players go down literally

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Speaker 2: NBA playoffs, the biggest time of the year, and the

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Speaker 2: Lakers lose Luka Doncik to a Grade two hamstring strain

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Speaker 2: the prognosis from a lot of people, and obviously all

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Speaker 2: read six weeks, Yeah, three to six week recovery period

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Speaker 2: It would not be able to come back until the

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Speaker 2: if again the recovery period last around thirty five days,

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Speaker 3: And if they can extend out the first round, which.

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Speaker 2: Well we know they do that already. As it is,

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Speaker 2: it's like nine days between Game one and Game two.

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Speaker 3: Were still getting forty days and forty nine That was

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Speaker 2: Neither good for you, and I don't know if anybody

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Speaker 2: because how can you guarantee forty games at forty nights

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Speaker 2: if there's what if every series is a sweep, then what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, run see truck was done by Chuck.

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Speaker 2: Makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Tim and Shack worked out those numbers. That was the

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Speaker 3: Lakers fans because as a Clippers fan, we deal with

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Speaker 3: with every year going into the playoffs, something happens to

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Speaker 3: Kawhi or Paul George cross your fingers. They also have

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Speaker 3: five games left before the playoffs start. Play in for them,

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Speaker 3: I should say, because they're ineligible for the playoffs until

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Speaker 3: they win a play in game. This is unfortunate timing,

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Speaker 3: especially because this Lakers team was peaking at the right time.

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Speaker 3: They just went what fifteen to two in the month

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Speaker 2: Not only was he knocking on the door of averaging

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Speaker 3: And the type of three pointers step back, unguardable shots.

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Speaker 2: That's not sexual.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like how it sounded either, but Luka

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Speaker 3: Nacich being out completely changes the complexion of this Lakers

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Speaker 3: team season expectations this summer. It could also change I

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Speaker 3: don't know how we view two guys that they have

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Speaker 3: decisions to make on in Austin Reeves and Lebron James.

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Speaker 3: Really now, Lebron part of that decision is in his hands.

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Speaker 3: We all assume Austin Reeves wants to come back, that's

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Speaker 3: never been in question. But what's the price going to be?

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Speaker 3: He could increase his value by putting together a great

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Speaker 3: before he initially got hurt. I mean, Austin Reeves was

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Speaker 3: he was looking like the guy that I said I'd

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Speaker 3: the last month of last season, before the playoff series

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Speaker 3: against Minnesota and said, you know what, Adam, you were right.

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Speaker 3: That's right. I'd rather have him at fifteen million than

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Speaker 3: Devin Booker at seventy.

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Speaker 2: Well, the issue is he's not gonna be at fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty two. And so the problem is, and Laker fans

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Speaker 2: will tell you this, are we gonna get regular season

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Speaker 2: Austin Reeves or playoff Austin Reeves? Okay? And playoff Austin

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Speaker 2: Reeves has not been phenomenal Okay, especially in certain matchups.

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Speaker 3: Now he's only been in Let's see, his first year

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Speaker 3: That he was really good.

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Speaker 2: He was still under the radar at that point, so

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Speaker 2: that was kind of his coming out party. Fairs. That

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Speaker 2: and lost to Denver.

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Speaker 3: I believe I swept, but it was the closest sweep

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Speaker 3: of all time. They were in all of those games,

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Speaker 3: and Austin Reeves had that Game one or Game two

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Speaker 3: against Memphis where he declared, I'm here, I'm him. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was clutched, he stuffed up late. He had a

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Speaker 3: really good series. He was pretty good against Golden State,

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Speaker 3: he had to run around, chase around Steph Curry and

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Speaker 3: by the time he got to the Denver Nuggets. Since then,

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Speaker 3: he got Denver again in the first round, didn't play

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Speaker 2: Right, So that's the big drawback. So what this does

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Speaker 2: is it puts the spotlight on him. Look, we know

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Speaker 2: he's healthy, you know he's going to step his game

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Speaker 2: little bit for the Lakers. But the biggest thing for them,

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Speaker 2: I think, to your point, this is kind of an

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Speaker 2: audition season when it comes to Austin Reeves to see

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Speaker 2: exactly the kind of playoff performer he can be, where

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Speaker 2: he can be the guy to actually carry a team

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Speaker 2: in a series where they're scheming for you as the

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Speaker 2: primary ball handler. He's going to get paid regardless, by

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Speaker 2: the way, the Lakers are not going to let and

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Speaker 2: walk away. Even if so, They're gonna sign him to

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Speaker 2: an extension if and when they figure out that he's

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Speaker 2: not the best fit. I think he is a good

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Speaker 2: fit with Luca, and I think if those guys are healthy,

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Speaker 2: they can be a good one two punch. But if

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Speaker 2: they determine those guys don't work, Austin Reeves is going

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Speaker 2: to have value in the trade market. For the kind

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Speaker 2: of player that he is. They can easily trade him

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Speaker 2: to another team and get other assets for him, so

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Speaker 2: they're gonna sign them back regardless of how well or

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Speaker 2: how poorly he performs in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: Now is he a restricted free agent? I know he

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Speaker 3: has what an opt out is? What it is, Yes,

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Speaker 3: he has a players obviously will exercise it.

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Speaker 2: Correct he has an opt out, can be a free

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Speaker 3: It's really just the last three weeks with Lebron sacrificing

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Speaker 2: Right to get back to Luca here because JJ Reddick

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Speaker 2: So the Lakers are getting their asses handed to them

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Speaker 3: He called me mister class, not Anthony Davis. Let's not

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Speaker 3: far from that far. He's been playing hurt, he's been

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Speaker 2: But he's also been playing a crap ton of minutes, yes,

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Speaker 3: He's lost his rhythm. If anything, that the issue with him.

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Speaker 3: Before I would go to JJ Redick, I would go

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Speaker 3: With seven minutes left in the third quarter, they were

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Speaker 3: They have OKAC coming up again and if they played

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Speaker 2: I think that number was thrown out there sort of

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Speaker 2: Cut it from thirty to sixteen, and see if we

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Speaker 3: I think the people that blame JJ Redick were looking

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Speaker 2: Because I will say JJ has gotten criticism as far

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Speaker 2: They've gotten criticism for the amount of minutes you know

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Speaker 3: Rob Polenka put them in that position where also I

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Speaker 2: you know, fasize fits all on this. Are you bringing

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Speaker 3: If I saw them be more competitive against Okac instead

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Speaker 2: Just as hot, if not hotter than the Lakers were

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Speaker 2: That's the thing for me. You know you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: They'll have a chance. I know that Houston's won five

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Speaker 2: so to year. I'm with you on that. If it

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Speaker 2: make it worse, he made great strides this season. He

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Speaker 2: hoping for them to make a run in the postseason

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Speaker 2: in the year on a relatively high note, and be

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Speaker 2: thankful that it was only a Grade two hamstring straind

438
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Speaker 2: and not something more serious. Rest on your laurels on that,

439
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Speaker 2: have another offseason, get in better shape, improve the roster

440
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Speaker 2: so that this time next year Luka Danci doesn't have

441
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Speaker 2: to average thirty nine and a half minutes during a

442
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Speaker 2: play off run. At the end of the season, he

443
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Speaker 2: can actually get some rest.

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Speaker 3: The other problem for Lakers fans is that are Lucas stans.

445
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,400
Speaker 3: He's at sixty four games, right, and so he does

446
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Speaker 3: not qualify for the postseason awards. Maybe not for the

447
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Speaker 3: postseason nor the postseason awards.

448
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Speaker 2: And by the way, this is not just the MVP.

449
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Speaker 2: The talk get kind of blown up more than anything,

450
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Speaker 2: but this is any award. So he can't make an

451
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Speaker 2: All NBA team first, second, or third.

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's the issue they're petitioning this is everybody

453
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Speaker 3: seems to have their agent speak for them, just like

454
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Speaker 3: Kay Cunningham did saying that this is a bad rule.

455
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Speaker 3: And it does make me think he's one game back,

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Speaker 3: and I guess there can be exceptions and maybe he'll

457
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Speaker 3: be granted that because extenuating circumstances. His kid was born overseas,

458
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Speaker 3: he left for a couple of days and then came back,

459
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Speaker 3: and they can say otherwise. Obviously he gets to sixty

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Speaker 3: five games and we can still reward him here. But

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to think this just looks worse and worse.

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Speaker 3: I Adam Silver wants to keep it, and he mentioned

463
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Speaker 3: that last week that he likes the rule. But how

464
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Speaker 3: many guys now are going to be out or not

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Speaker 3: be able to qualify for this award? Now it's him, Well.

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Speaker 2: Guys are tolling the line right now if they haven't

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Speaker 2: already crossed it.

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Speaker 3: It's Jo honest. Yeah, Wemby's right there on the verge.

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Speaker 3: Kawhy's right there on the verge.

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Speaker 5: An there.

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Speaker 3: I believe Lebron James doesn't qualify, can't do it. It

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Speaker 3: just feels like, man, some of the biggest stars Steph Curry,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't qualify. Yeah, Anthony Edwards doesn't. Kate, as we mentioned,

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I think takes a major amendment. I think if you

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Speaker 2: just take it from sixty five to sixty, I think

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Speaker 2: that makes a huge difference.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you this though, what if we

479
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Speaker 3: just leave it in the hands of the judges, Like

480
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Speaker 3: the writers know how many games guys played, availability does matter.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to look over the years of how

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Speaker 3: many times somebody have played forty or fifty games ever

483
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Speaker 3: made an All NBA team, and it's like a handful

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Speaker 3: of times the last twenty five years. We're talking like

485
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Speaker 3: four or five times. The writers, for the most part,

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Speaker 3: understand that the guys that are playing more availability is

487
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Speaker 3: the best ability. Maybe we don't need to treat them

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Speaker 3: like they're idiots and have this sixty five game mark

489
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Speaker 3: because I still think a lot of these guys, I

490
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Speaker 3: don't think it's so much that you know, the load management.

491
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Speaker 3: Load management has changed so much. These guys want to play,

492
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Speaker 3: they want to play, They're going for MVP. A lot

493
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Speaker 3: of them have been campaigning for the MVP Award. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if it makes that much of a difference.

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Speaker 3: Adam Silver thinks it does. I think this situation with

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Speaker 3: Luka Doncic, I don't know, it's putting a black mark

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Speaker 3: on this award.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And Mark, I know we have to run. But I

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Speaker 2: just think, anecdotally speaking, since the rules placed in it

501
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Speaker 2: feels like to me again, it just feels like I

502
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Speaker 2: don't have any actual stats or numbers. There are fewer

503
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Speaker 2: guys who are missing games for little knick knack or

504
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Speaker 2: for low management purposes, and guys are only missing games

505
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Speaker 2: for legitimate injuries. The problem is these guys are getting

506
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Speaker 2: legitimately hurt and it's unfortunately affecting their ability to be

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Speaker 2: able to compete for these awards.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of hurt, Jalen Hurts, we're talking about him coming

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Speaker 3: up next here on F and A on FSR because

510
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Speaker 3: he well, there was an expos done on him. Was

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Speaker 3: it a hit piece? Are there legitimate issues with Jalen

512
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Speaker 3: Hurts that we need to talk about too. NFL headlines

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Speaker 3: Coming up and geek news. We're talking about not the

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Speaker 3: San Jose Sharks, the Hermosa Beach Sharks. More sightings coming

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Speaker 3: as we get close to summer. And I don't like

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Speaker 3: what I'm seeing right now, Kevin, this is not trending

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Speaker 3: in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm having to.

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Speaker 3: Stay away from the beach for the last note. This

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Speaker 3: will be like the twenty sixth year.

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Speaker 2: You're shaking in your dry boots that are not setting

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Speaker 2: to set foot in the ocean. So I really don't

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Speaker 2: know what you have to fear. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: you don't know.

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Speaker 3: What it's like. I'm in the bathtub and I'm thinking

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Speaker 3: about sharks. It's scary there too.

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Speaker 2: You're thinking, like, what are the old car tune sharks

549
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: that drove like motorcycles or something? Sharks? That's right? Which one?

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Speaker 2: Which one was jocking the other one? Style? The mice

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Speaker 2: or the mice or the sharks.

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Speaker 3: They were a nice crossover. I think they were in

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Speaker 3: the same universe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds about right. Big ride up on ESPN dot

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Speaker 2: com earlier this week about Jalen hurts and issues in

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Speaker 2: the Egos locker room. Many much of the issues facilitated

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Speaker 2: are brought upon by Jalen and his attitude and his demeanor,

558
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Speaker 2: saying that he's uncoachable and is unwilling to adapt offensively

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Speaker 2: and doesn't like certain offensive sets and motions and once

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Speaker 2: things have done his own way, and I hear all

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Speaker 2: that or read all that Adam and say, yeah, sounds

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Speaker 2: like a quarterback in the NFL to me, Like you,

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Speaker 2: the all these guys are rigid, especially once who have

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Speaker 2: had a measure of success. Yes, he has shortcomings and

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Speaker 2: could he probably improve on some things throwing against zone

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Speaker 2: defenses and all that, sure, but everybody has a comfort level.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is a very specific type of quarterback who

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Speaker 2: needs to run a very specific type of offense. Why

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Speaker 2: not lean into trying to perfect that and trying to

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Speaker 2: make him into something that he's not? And that sounds

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Speaker 2: like what the Eagles have been trying to angle towards.

572
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Speaker 2: And they put out this hit piece with all these

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Speaker 2: unnamed sources trying to poison the well on him, knowing

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Speaker 2: by the way they don't and Mike Florio brought this up.

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Speaker 2: He has no guaranteed money remaining on his contract after

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Speaker 2: this season, so it's almost like they're trying to build

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Speaker 2: up the excuse that if things go this year the

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Speaker 2: way they went last year, it gives him an excuse

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Speaker 2: and a reason to be able to let him go.

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Speaker 3: He's a very unique and has a very unique set

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Speaker 3: of skills, like to say the least Liam Neesen. I

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Speaker 3: think if you're going to have him as your quarterback,

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Speaker 3: you have to know what you're getting into and build

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Speaker 3: around him. It's not easy. It doesn't make it universal

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Speaker 3: for whoever the next guy is. But he's young enough

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Speaker 3: and good enough obviously since you won a Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: with him that if you do have the right pieces,

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Speaker 3: it can work.

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Speaker 2: He outplayed Patrick Mahomes for a half at least.

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Speaker 3: Sure, and they got the revenge eventually against Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: I don't see what the major issue is, And when

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Speaker 3: it comes to his leadership, I've listened to him plenty postgame.

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Speaker 3: He's quick to take accountability when he plays poorly. He's

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Speaker 3: also a guy that I like when it comes to

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Speaker 3: speaking to his team in a way that the message

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Speaker 3: is going to be well received. I would say he

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Speaker 3: gets through to his guys. I think you can talk

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Speaker 3: about aj Brown all you want. That's its own situation.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that the two of them had a rift,

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Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like a had a rift with

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Speaker 2: a lot of people in that building the past year.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think Jalen Hurts is the problem there now.

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Speaker 3: If this is a negotiation tactic and that's all it is,

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Speaker 3: so they can get him for cheaper, but they do

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Speaker 3: still want him. They just want to keep him as

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Speaker 3: much as they can under the salary so they can

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Speaker 3: bring in another guy to support him. I get that

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Speaker 3: approach it askeform.

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Speaker 2: Want his performance speak for that, Like if he has

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Speaker 2: another season performance wise like this, like this past year,

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Speaker 2: then yeah maybe, But if it goes back to how

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Speaker 2: he played two years ago or three years ago when

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Speaker 2: he was MVP in the MVP race, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: what because look, if he were to be a free

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Speaker 2: agent right now with all this stuff, people talk about

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Speaker 2: him being aloof which, by the way, a lot of

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00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: great athletes are so, even at the quarterback position, and

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Speaker 2: you have to be a leader, you have to be

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Speaker 2: able to rally guys around you and all that, and

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Speaker 2: I guess according to some of these sources that has

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Speaker 2: been a bit of an issue at times for him too.

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Speaker 2: But again, the production level for the most part has

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Speaker 2: been there. The way I look at it is, if

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts were he free agent right now, we're not

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Speaker 2: talking franchise tags or any of that stuff. He's on

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Speaker 2: the street. I can name five teams off the top

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Speaker 2: of my head right now that would sign him today, instantaneously, exactly.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't bad Deny to bring him in. I do

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Speaker 2: wonder there'd be a market for somebody of his even

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Speaker 2: with his limited capabilities at the quarterback position, knowing that

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Speaker 2: he has a very niche skill set, there are a

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Speaker 2: ton of teams who would sign up and change their

633
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Speaker 2: offense because he is that talented.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you do have to wrap an offense around him.

635
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Speaker 3: You do have to find the perfect guys to do it.

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Speaker 3: And you know, a lot of this could come down

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00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: to how Saquon Barkley gonna look next season and how

638
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 3: much can they run the football? Like that more than

639
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: anything was the issue this year? Your running backs going

640
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: for one thousand less yards than he did the year before,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't look as explosive. Is that the rule of

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00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 3: three seventy As our friend James co would say, Yeah,

643
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 3: and maybe they took some tread off of his tires.

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Speaker 3: The skin is down a little bit, like he's worn down.

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Speaker 2: Offensive line was banged up a lot that first of all,

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Speaker 2: he lost a couple of players, and the healthy players

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Speaker 2: they did have, or the players they did have coming back.

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00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: A few of them were hurt throughout the year.

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Speaker 3: Well, and you go deep in the playoffs for consecutive years,

650
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: that adds up too.

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Speaker 2: That's attrition there.

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Speaker 3: You probably need some fresh blood. You probably need some help,

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Speaker 3: like just somebody else who can alleviate Saquon so he's

654
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 3: not the workhorse that he used to be, and just

655
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: use him more sparingly. I remember, you know older running

656
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: backs and look, he's not even thirty yet, but he's

657
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: had an ACL and he has had a taxing career

658
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: with how much he's been used.

659
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: I mean, go back to his days at Penn State.

660
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 2: They ran him into the ground as last year there.

661
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, check out the Rose Bowl against USC like.

662
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: One of the best games I've ever seen.

663
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: It was.

664
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

665
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: I just don't know if Jalen hurts is my main issue,

666
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: because I know how he's going to play, if circumstances,

667
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: If he's put in the same circumstances like we saw

668
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: two years ago, Like I know what I'm going to

669
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: get out of him. What about the rest of the

670
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: crew and what about the defense? What about the running game?

671
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: Because that's what they were able to do. Now you

672
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: can say there is something gimmicky going on when it

673
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: comes to Jailen Hurts, and that is that little touch

674
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: push they got going on. I that's not nothing. You

675
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: look at the numbers and how often they use that,

676
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: and how effective it has been and how difficult it

677
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 3: was to stop, and then all of a sudden, teams

678
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: got a little bit bet when it came to stopping him.

679
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: By the end of last season, it was only working

680
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: ninety four percent of the time as opposed to ninety

681
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: eight percent of the time.

682
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: I feel like it was slightly less, but you might

683
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: be right. It's it's still effective enough. Are they going

684
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: to get better and better at defending that because they

685
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: were pretty reliant on it, you know. I just I'm

686
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: not giving up on a guy that young, and I

687
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: don't think they are either. I think this is more

688
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: about negotiations, Yeah, a way to get him back cheaper,

689
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 3: or a way to figure out a way for whatever

690
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: his next deal is going to be, to build a

691
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: team around him and have the means to do so

692
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: because he's not making maybe as much.

693
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: Seems pretty dirty to me if that is exactly what

694
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: they're trying to do. That's not something that you do

695
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: to someone who won you a Super Bowl. Who took

696
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: you to a couple of them who you I won't

697
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: say they lucked into him, because they did take him

698
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: in the second round. But at the time Carson Wentz

699
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: was coming off with an injury, no one really knew

700
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: exactly what he would be. No one thought he would

701
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: turn into this a franchise quarterback for them.

702
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: I don't look at it so much as Jalen Hirch.

703
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: He put us on his back to win the super.

704
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 4: Bowl type thing.

705
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.

706
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if I characterize as he won us

707
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: the super Bowl. He was a big part, There's no

708
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: doubt about it. He's part of the edge of the offense.

709
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: If anything, he played better in the Super Bowl that

710
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: they lost in the one that they wanted to be

711
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: honest with.

712
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: You, but they had Sakwan. He made timely throws, he

713
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: used his legs at the right opportunities to He was

714
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: judicious with it. But he's not. This isn't Tom Brady

715
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: where you're just winning on his arm. I would say

716
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: he didn't have a run that Sam Darnold just had

717
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: not at all. Right, No, that's not who he is.

718
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: But there's consistency there he's been your signal caller. He

719
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: has had big seasons for you. It might not have

720
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: been the championship season that you had, and to a

721
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 2: certain degree, you know what you're getting. Now, maybe you

722
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: don't like it, and maybe there are certain things that

723
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: you want to change about his demeanor, but you can't.

724
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: First of all, he's been through a lot. The Alabama

725
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: benching for TUA in the National championship game, he transfers

726
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: and goes to a home un plays with. This guy

727
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: has had a different off as a coordinator. I think

728
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: every year of his career since like his sophomore year

729
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: in college. And I'm only slightly exaggerating.

730
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: He's extremely tough. Mentally he is. He's a gamer. He's

731
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: a guy you want in the trenches with you, no

732
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: doubt about it. And that's not I don't think that

733
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: should be questioned about him. His competitive drive and that's

734
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: not nothing.

735
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: You know it.

736
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: He's got heart, and he's got skill and talent. And

737
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: his skill and talent it may be very different or

738
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: unorthodox than what you typically see, but it's effective enough

739
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 3: where you have to believe in it and you have

740
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: to build around it.

741
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: And I don't know how this necessarily works with the

742
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: head coach out there, Sirianni. But they've been through so

743
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: many offensive coordinators and some have worked, and obviously last

744
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: season Kevin Patulo didn't. And I don't know how much

745
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: of that was him and how much of that was

746
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: just We mentioned the offensive line being banged up. We

747
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: mentioned Saquon Barkley taking a step back after all the

748
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: touches he had the previous season. But maybe if you're Sirianni,

749
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: you need to take the Sean McVay Roland just be like,

750
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call the plays. I will have an afesive

751
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator in title only, but I can I just

752
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: have to keep cycling these guys in and out every

753
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: single year. But a quarterback who has a very specific

754
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: skill set and a bunch of different guys that have

755
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of different type of philosophies. Maybe that's where

756
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 2: it is. Is like I'm the head coach, I know,

757
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: and I want to be a game manager, but maybe

758
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: I need to take over and just be the head

759
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: of the Snake offensively and have my passing game coordinator

760
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: slash offensive coordinator assist me in those duties. That might

761
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: be the best way to go about.

762
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: It and typically, and I'm not saying this is the

763
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: situation with him right now, but when the seat starts

764
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: to get a little bit warm for me, guys are

765
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: gonna say, if I'm going out, I'm going out my way.

766
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call the plays here. And we saw that

767
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: with Brandon Staley, I think his last year with the Chargers.

768
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: That's true.

769
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: Yes, now he went out, you're out. I don't even

770
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: know how he got back that season afterward happened against

771
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: Jacksonville in the playoffs. I don't know how he got

772
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: another season there. But yeah, I think this Eagles team,

773
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: we may be overreacting a little bit and too much

774
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: of the spotlight is being put on Jalen Hurts, because

775
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: what I saw was a team that wasn't as good Defensively.

776
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: They were good, they weren't as good and running the football,

777
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: which was imperative for them even before that they won

778
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl just to get there initially, they have

779
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: to have that as part of their game plan. It's

780
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: that one two punch with the run game and Jalen Hurst.

781
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the defense kind of ran out of gas towards

782
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: the end of the season. They were fairly dominant early on,

783
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: but there was a lot of They had a ten

784
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: to seven victory against Green Bay. There were just a

785
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: lot of games like that because the offense wasn't pulling

786
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: their weight. And I'm not saying Jalen Hurts is perfect.

787
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: I've heard the stories about him being a little bit

788
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: of an a hole and being difficult to deal with,

789
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: but again, these are major professional athletes. A lot of

790
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: these guys are wired that way.

791
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 3: It's not wholly unique to get to this point.

792
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, it's not something that's unique to him as

793
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: a quarterback. He's going to do things that he wants

794
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: to do that are comfortable for him. Does he need

795
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: to improve on certain things, absolutely, But the idea that

796
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: you need to get rid of him or some sort

797
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: of cancer in the locker room, and nobody used that

798
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: word in the article, but there's coded language in there

799
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: to try to say that Jalen Hurts is a major

800
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: issue as to why they struggled last year, and I

801
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: just don't think that that's the case.

802
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. Coming up next here on

803
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: fn A, we got geek news. We got to talk

804
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: about something in our own backyard that's happening right now.

805
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: Here on the Pacific coast. I don't like it. It

806
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: scares me. Luckily, I can just stay home on the

807
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: land where it's safe. Allegedly to this point, hop.

808
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 2: On those harleys, come after your ass.

809
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: Or Sharknado where Doking Sharks coming up next? Here in

810
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: Greek news it is.

811
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radom fairly alarmed here.

812
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: Fn A cotton back in on fn A on FSR.

813
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: Here on Fox Sports Saturday. Later in the show, we're

814
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 2: gonna speak with Don McClain, leading scorer, all time leading

815
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: scorer for the u c l A. Bruins, and he's

816
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: a analyst for the Bigson Network. He's gonna talk about

817
00:35:51,160 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: the Final four. But coming up right now, Adam.

818
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: Low geekness, what's you're playing?

819
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: D and DDA you want to come case?

820
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 6: What's up?

821
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: Guys, won't be chilled that I've been chining online with

822
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: dabs all day.

823
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: Just keep a power plus off her touch right right, Kenneln,

824
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: I thought the machine died on us again for the

825
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: fiftieth time been shared. Yeah, that's right.

826
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: It's as real as the streets. The street sharks all

827
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: right here in southern California, in our own backyard. We

828
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: got a problem. Sharks are up to their bs again

829
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: earlier than usual. Actually, we've had more sightings than usual

830
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 3: this time of year because the water is warmer due

831
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: to El Nino. That's what I read. Okay, Chris Farley

832
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: lives you're a huge Uh yeah, you know what? Actually,

833
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: you know what's weird. I had a dream about Chris

834
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 3: Farley last night. Interesting that me and him were playing

835
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: for the Chicago bull so we beat the Lakers in

836
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: the NBA finals. I am dan, I was serious.

837
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: Definitely a dream that one.

838
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 3: How dare you? I'm not saying it was ninety one

839
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: and we turned the thing around because we were playing.

840
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like to me, quick playing with

841
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: your dinghy. All right, y'all just put Horace Granted Michael

842
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: Jordan on the bench and say step off. We got this.

843
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 3: It was a normal dream. Magic King c Us and

844
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: Chris Farley could ball. You remember that old March Madness

845
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: commercial where he's playing like he's Latner or whatever. Right, Anyways,

846
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: last week we had an eight foot great White sharks

847
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: circling a surfer in Newport Beach, which shut down the

848
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: beach and the batties and the only fans recordings temporarily

849
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: this last Wednesday, just a couple of days ago though,

850
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: at Hermosa Beach Pier here in southern California, a young

851
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: fisherman by the name of Kevin Fan and I'm a

852
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: fan of Kevin.

853
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 5: Two.

854
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: Well, he was doing some fishing out there, and white

855
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: sharks are also a fan of Kevin fan because one

856
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: apparently took the bait that Kevin was using for I

857
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: think something slightly less large a mackerel.

858
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: And less ferocious.

859
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: But you know, as we learned in episode one, there's

860
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: always a bigger fish in front of onlookers and beach goers.

861
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: Kevin stripped down to his underwear, I'm serious, there's video

862
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: and jumped into the water to retrieve the shark he

863
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: hooked so he could release it and it would catch

864
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: a wave back out to the sea, back from whence

865
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: it came after. It looked pretty disoriented and was flopping

866
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: around for a bit first and kind of upside down.

867
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: Now it's illegal to catch the white sharks. They're protected here.

868
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: As you know, in California, we have no laws to

869
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: protect us.

870
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 2: It's all about it's all about it about the animals,

871
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: all about the especially the animals that can kill us.

872
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: You know, Oh no, don't shoot that bear. Just make

873
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: yourself look big and scream at it. Cool.

874
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: What's crazy is no, don't don't shoot the cougar. According

875
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: to witnesses, this same guy, Kevin here's a fisherman. He's young,

876
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: he's like twenty. He caught two other juvenile great whites

877
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: the day before, and they're on the smaller side. We're

878
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: talking like six footers. We're talking smaller great white sharks.

879
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: If I didn't make that clear enough for you, it

880
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 3: was just a juvenile so not a great white.

881
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: Like kind of good white, but not a great whitey

882
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: you got it.

883
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: Kind of good white. It needs to be in a

884
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: great white.

885
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: But so, what the hell is this guy using as bait?

886
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: Is what I want to know.

887
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: His little brother apparently.

888
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

889
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: This guy's more of a shark expert than Quinn the

890
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: orchest shit from Jaws. Apparently, like he's catching everything with ease. Now,

891
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: they do say, if you want to protect yourself, stay

892
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: out of the water. I would start there and there.

893
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: It's the easiest way to go.

894
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 3: But if you have to go in there, swimming groups

895
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: hopefully they take out your friends.

896
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: And it's like when the bear was chasing after your

897
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: group of friends. I just got I don't have to

898
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: outrun the bear. I gotta outrun you.

899
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 3: I don't got to outswim the shark. I just got

900
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: to outswim. You avoid the water at dawn or dusk,

901
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: and uh, stick to beaches with lifeguards on duty in

902
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 3: case they don't take you apart whole and you still

903
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 3: are left with the leg and they can call for

904
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 3: medical attention. You're okay.

905
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: Also not the lifeguard is not going to run down

906
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: there and like beat the sharks ass for you, because

907
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: that's what I was hoping for.

908
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: You know. There is a new show, a new Baywatch show. Yeah,

909
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: I've heard about this and it's coming out. Yes, with

910
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: Libby Dunn.

911
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I think starring at all schemes is Bin Squeeze. Yes, yeah,

912
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: great acting chops by the way, so I hear, because

913
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: I don't think she's ever acted a day in her life.

914
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can tell. So we'll see how it goes.

915
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 3: But protect yourself at the beaches. This summer more sharks

916
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: than usual. This is F and A on FSR.

917
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Speaker 2: That's right, hour two of F and A on FSR

918
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Saturday. You can follow Adam on

919
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: x AT. Follow Adam A. You can hit me up

920
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: on x AT. K FIG one. Coming up next hour,

921
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: Don McClain, leading score for ucla Big Ten analyst, is

922
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: going to join his Big Ten network analysts, I should say,

923
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: going to join us to talk about the final four.

924
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: Also coming up this hour, we'll talk about a shake

925
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 2: up with the Raider quarterback position. We know they're gonna

926
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 2: take Nana Mendoza, but they also signed Kirk Cousins. What

927
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: that means for them moving forward, What that means for

928
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins and his career in legacy moving forward. We'll

929
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: get into that coming up later this hour as well.

930
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: Adam coming up though right now out he just called

931
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 3: in Brandon, what are you doing? Pick it up?

932
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: Alan Dragan did?

933
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 5: Thank you?

934
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 3: Donny, Oh, it's our friends. We have a good relationship

935
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: with unlike a certain superstar player and a certain franchise

936
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: who now needs couples therapy. Now, this is like a

937
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: bizarre love triangle. This is the new Order. It's Mark

938
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: Medina basically on with us every midnight hour now on

939
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: FNA on Fox Sports Radio. He is our Fox Sports

940
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 3: NBA analysts follow him at Mark g Underscore, Medina that

941
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 3: G for g Unit, Mark, what's up? Thanks for coming

942
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: back on the.

943
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 8: Show, Adam and Kevin and I see what you did

944
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 8: there with the intro music, and you know what's fitting here.

945
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 8: I'm sure we're gonna talk about Luca Doncis. He was

946
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 8: coming off an incredible month. It reminded me of you

947
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 8: know Eminem show, right, and all of a sudden, within

948
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 8: a day you get Encore, which is a dud.

949
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 5: And we don't know.

950
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 8: Moving forward, does Luca Doncis return look like the Relapse

951
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 8: album or does it look like the Recovery album? A

952
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 8: lot of unanswered questions.

953
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. He's gonna need some time off, maybe

954
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: like Eminem took between the time you got to Marshall

955
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: Mathers and Marshall Mathers LP two or whatever it was

956
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: now fifteen years later.

957
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 2: The theme for this season for Lucas till I collapse,

958
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: because that's exactly what happened to him on Thursday Night.

959
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: I guess if we're gonna stick with the M and

960
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: M reference. So what do you think? Mark? We talked

961
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: about this in the first hour two JJ Reddick has

962
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: gotten criticism for the amount of minutes that he's been

963
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: playing Luka Doncik and Austin Reeves specifically, and we know

964
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: Luca has been dealing with his hamsterring injury off and

965
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: on all season long. Last week listened as questionab before

966
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: a game with the hamstring issue before he ended up playing.

967
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 2: Do you think that JJ Redick has owed any sort

968
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: of responsibility in this situation or do you side with

969
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: what he said after the game the doctors cleared him

970
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: and Lucas said he was fine, so we put him

971
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: out there to play.

972
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a very good question, and it's something that

973
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 8: I actually post to some outside doctors today about it,

974
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 8: because you know, they know the medical field, they know

975
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 8: these injuries. And what's interesting is all these three doctors said, like,

976
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Speaker 8: we don't know for short definitives, but a lot of

977
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 8: times these hamstring injuries are product of over usage previous injuries.

978
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 8: And so when I press them, well, what about you

979
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 8: know the counterpoint of hey, the medical staff cleared them,

980
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 8: et cetera, et cetera. They validated that, but at the

981
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 8: same time they said both things can be true that

982
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 8: a lot of times these injuries happened because the player

983
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 8: used to have a previous hamstring injury and they've had

984
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 8: a pretty good workload or heavy workloads. So how does

985
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 8: this pertain to JJ Redick. I give him a little

986
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 8: bit of a pass only because he's adhering to what

987
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 8: the medical staff's telling him. But when you're looking at

988
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 8: the basketball game itself, they're already getting blown out. I

989
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 8: don't see what the benefit is for Luca to play

990
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 8: any kind of minutes in the second half when the

991
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 8: game was already lost. And you know, the counterpoint that

992
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 8: maybe you make is, oh, you're trying to build a

993
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 8: rhythm for the postseason. He had served on game suspension

994
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 8: two games prior. Now, I don't really think that's much

995
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 8: of a thing because Luca was already playing such a

996
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 8: heavy workload and he already played one game after the

997
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 8: one game suspension. So yeah, JJ Reddick doesn't deserve the

998
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 8: majority to blame, but he's certainly not blameless.

999
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: It is Mark Medina joining us here on F and

1000
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: A on Fox Sports Radio. Mark, are there any parallels

1001
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: or comps you can go to when it comes to

1002
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 3: this injury and what we could be looking at? Everybody's

1003
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 3: different with how they recover. But is there anything positive

1004
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: the Lakers could look to for Luca's future here and

1005
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: trying to get him back for the playoffs.

1006
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 8: Well, you know parallels as far as like any potential timelines.

1007
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 8: I know that you know Nuggets four pay Watson missed

1008
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 8: twenty games, you know, and he came back. But it's

1009
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 8: all over the map. I mean, Aaron Gordon last year

1010
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 8: in the playoffs only missed one game, like he came

1011
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 8: back from game six to game seven. Jaylen Williams he

1012
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 8: missed ten games. One thing that one of the doctors

1013
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 8: told me is that to keep in mind that the

1014
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 8: game range is all over the map, but it's usually

1015
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 8: to six weeks. And so what that means he's likely

1016
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 8: to return only if the Lakers get to the second

1017
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 8: round of the playoffs. I do think that the Lakers

1018
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 8: can get to the second round because they have that

1019
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 8: third seed. If they play Houston Minnesota, even without Luka Doncic,

1020
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 8: I think they're better than those two teams, But they

1021
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 8: face Denver, assuming no major injuries on that side, it

1022
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 8: will be a challenge. So silver lining I don't really

1023
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 8: see much right because they had Luca playing at such

1024
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 8: a high level I still thought that Oklahoma City and

1025
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 8: San Antonio had the edge in the Western Conference Finals,

1026
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 8: but the Lakers were making a case that they would

1027
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 8: have what it takes to be a real threat in

1028
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 8: the West because Lucas playing his absolute pest, Lebron sacrificing

1029
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 8: his role. Austin reeves, he's kind of hot and cold

1030
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 8: first and second half, but at least he's strong in

1031
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 8: the second half. And their role players they're buying in.

1032
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 8: They're being the best versions of themselves, and they're all

1033
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 8: thriving defensively. But without Luca being the guy that obviously

1034
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 8: carries the team, everything is all now up in the air.

1035
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: Mark, what do you say to the fact that some

1036
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: fans are just saying, just shut Luca down regardless, even

1037
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: if you find a way to win in the first

1038
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: round and he's operating at eighty five percent or so

1039
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: going into the second round, we all know they're not

1040
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: beating Oklahoma City, probably not beating San Antonio. Probably at Denver,

1041
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 2: we never know. That's kind of up in the air,

1042
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 2: but they're probably not going to beat Oklahoma City based

1043
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: on what we saw on Thursday night, when both teams

1044
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: were healthy in the first half and It was a

1045
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: blitzkrieg from the opening tip. What do you say to

1046
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: people who say, just shut Luca down completely for the

1047
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: remainder of the season regardless, because this is a future

1048
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: play not going for this year when we know we're

1049
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: not going to win a championship anyway.

1050
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 8: No, that's preemptive, and let me unpack this injury with that.

1051
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 8: It's one thing to shut down regular season, but the

1052
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 8: typical timetable of a grade two is four to six weeks.

1053
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 8: It was a Grade three. He want to be back

1054
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 8: for the playoffs. Now here's what the doctor said. There

1055
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 8: is a gray area when it comes to if they're

1056
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 8: in that first round series and they're trailing oh two,

1057
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 8: they said that it would be very risky to put

1058
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 8: Luca back and expect him to be the savior to

1059
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 8: help the Lakers win that series. But one thing that

1060
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 8: they did stress is hamstring injuries as dicey and as

1061
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 8: they are and fluid and all that, these aren't injuries

1062
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 8: that could be career ending or even season ending into

1063
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 8: next season. So that whole idea of oh, shut him

1064
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 8: down here, same for next year. If he's healthy enough

1065
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 8: to play, he can be a net positive. I think

1066
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 8: really the only gray area is if they're trailing in

1067
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 8: a first round series really competitive, do you put him

1068
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 8: out in hopes that he can actually make a difference.

1069
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 8: And at that point he's probably very very limited, so

1070
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 8: unlikely not. But this idea that shut him down because

1071
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 8: you want to be safe for next season. This isn't

1072
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 8: the kind of injury that's career season altering.

1073
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 3: So how much is this going to form the Lakers

1074
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: about Austin Reeves and what he's capable of, because obviously

1075
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: they want him next to Luka Donci's moving forward, There's

1076
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: a contract situation coming up here. He also has been

1077
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: up and down in the playoffs in his career. How

1078
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: big is this for Austin Reeves right now?

1079
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 8: Well, I don't, to be frank, I don't think it's

1080
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 8: big from a contractual standpoint or any data on how

1081
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 8: the Lakers view him. With Luka Doocich, they've been very

1082
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 8: encouraged with that and they're going to spend money to

1083
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Speaker 8: keep him when he becomes a free agent. And part

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00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 8: of that is they know that whether it's next season

1085
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 8: or beyond, Lebron James isn't going to be on the team,

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Speaker 8: so they have that comfort level. But I think this

1087
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 8: is huge for Austin Reeves for a few things. He

1088
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 8: hasn't really done well in the playoffs. He's often hit

1089
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 8: a wall. This season, he missed a lot of games,

1090
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 8: but now he's been a little bit more fresh and

1091
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 8: ready to go, so maybe he doesn't hit that wall.

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Speaker 8: But the other thing is that without Luka Docrich, he

1093
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 8: has to take on a bigger role. Obviously Lebron James

1094
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 8: does too, but Lebron has been used to doing that

1095
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 8: his whole career. In a weird way, it's because he

1096
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 8: was that third role and he's now forty one. So

1097
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 8: it's all about Austin seeing if he can be that

1098
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 8: number one guy during the playoffs without Luca. But I

1099
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 8: do stress as important as it is just for the

1100
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 8: Lakers short term playoffs ceiling, I frankly don't think it's

1101
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 8: going to be much of a factor for his long

1102
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 8: term future because the Lakers have pretty much decided that

1103
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 8: he is their future.

1104
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Speaker 2: FOW Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Mandina joining us here

1105
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: on FNA on FSR. So let's talk Mark about somebody

1106
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: who is healthy, at least he says he is, and

1107
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 2: his employer says that he's not this controversy surrounding Jannis

1108
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: Totakumpo and the Milwaukee Bucks coming to a head, even

1109
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: more so now that the NBA has begun their investigation

1110
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: and talked to all principal parties involved in Giannis speaking

1111
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 2: to the media very candidly saying, I'm ready to play

1112
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: right now, and the Bucks are telling me that I'm

1113
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: not able to play, and I don't understand why. I

1114
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: think we all understand why they don't want him to play,

1115
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: and it all comes into the whether it's trying to

1116
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 2: tank to get a better draft pick knowing they missed

1117
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: a postseason, are protecting their assets so he doesn't get

1118
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: hurt or reactivated injury, knowing that they're looking to trade

1119
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: him in the offseason. Just so your thoughts on the

1120
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 2: NBA investigation and this standoff between Giannis and the Bucks

1121
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: organization right now?

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00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, it's all about what the actual information here is.

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00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 8: And I think that it's telling that the NBA is

1124
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 8: investigating it because the players union put out a statement

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00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 8: suggesting the Bucks we're trying to thank you know.

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00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 5: The The NBA has.

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00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 8: Also interviewed all the participants. So Yanna's certainly talked with

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00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 8: the league, but you know, I'm not going to say

1129
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 8: that there's not a factor here that the Bucks are

1130
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 8: out of the playoff contention. They have a lottery pick.

1131
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 8: But Giannis's injury is real. He says he's healthy enough

1132
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 8: to play, but there might be enough legal room because

1133
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 8: this isn't an injury that came out of thin era.

1134
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 8: It's a caf injury. There's always sensitivity about it that

1135
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 8: I frankly don't think that the Bucks are going to

1136
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 8: get fine or in trouble by the league. But clearly

1137
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 8: this is an example that the rain on the wall

1138
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 8: between the Bucks and the honest it's over. It's only

1139
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 8: a matter of when, not if, he ultimately gets traded.

1140
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 8: And you know, I think to bring this all for

1141
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 8: full circle with the intro music on these hip hop references,

1142
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 8: it reminds me of the beef with fifty Cent in

1143
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 8: the game, Like you would think ideally they should be

1144
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 8: a partnership because of their collapse and how great it's been,

1145
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 8: but clearly we're not on the same page. They're not

1146
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 8: getting along, so the breakup's inevitable.

1147
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 3: Do you think there's a play here from Jannis to

1148
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: make it look like I had no choice but to

1149
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 3: ask out.

1150
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 8: Or not had as yes, yes, yes, yes, had no choice.

1151
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 8: I wanted to be the good guy. I wanted to

1152
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 8: be here. But here's the thing the Bucks are also wondering,

1153
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 8: does he have the gumption of blink and say, you

1154
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 8: know what, I don't want to have that extension in

1155
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 8: October what I'm eligible for, because that's a lot of money.

1156
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 8: And when you turn down that extension, that ultimately does

1157
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 8: say trade me now. And history has shown Giannis has

1158
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 8: never turned down that extension now. I think it's best

1159
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 8: for both sides to not even wait until that point.

1160
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 5: Just trade.

1161
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 8: This summer, that's usually when you get the best offer

1162
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 8: because there's more teams that have time to negotiate. The

1163
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 8: draft has a whole other leverage play because of draft picks.

1164
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 8: But I do think that that is part of it,

1165
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 8: that this is Giannis's attempt to say, hey, look, I'm

1166
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 8: not the bad guy here. I've always been loyal. I

1167
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 8: want to play here my whole career, but now I

1168
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 8: have no other choice. But I think when you look

1169
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 8: at objectively, the Bucks for through good moves and bad moves,

1170
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 8: they've always been aggressive with trying to assemble the best

1171
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 8: roster around Giannus. You know, they got dru Holiday that

1172
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 8: worked out for them in the championship, they got Damien

1173
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 8: that didn't work out, wasn't.

1174
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 5: A great fit.

1175
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 8: There was injuries, obviously, the Achilles blew up in their face,

1176
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 8: but that show that they're willing to go all in.

1177
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 8: So I think this is an ultimate game of chicken,

1178
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 8: and it's a game of both sides trying to not

1179
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 8: to act like they're the bad guy. But I think

1180
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 8: at this point they don't need to worry about who's

1181
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 8: the bad guy good guy. They just got to cut

1182
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 8: their losses, make the divorce final, and try to make

1183
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 8: the best of what a deal could possibly be.

1184
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 2: In return, last one for me Mark. You know, Cooper

1185
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 2: flag impressive fifty one points on Friday Night, But the MAVs,

1186
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: with all due respect to them, they suck hornets in

1187
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: a playoff race with Conkain Nipple balling out. So is

1188
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: there any debate for Rookie of the Year at this

1189
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: point in time? Is it conk Nipples to lose?

1190
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 5: What do you say?

1191
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 8: Well, it's a tough one. If either wins. I don't

1192
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 8: I'm not surprised kankk Nipple. He's shown he's not just

1193
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 8: a shooter, complete player. He impacts winning. But Cooper Flag

1194
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 8: does have a case for a few things here, and

1195
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 8: part of it has to do with the MAVs effort

1196
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 8: because he's still been playing at a high level even

1197
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 8: with all these overlapping injuries flawed roster. He's been an

1198
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 8: ultimate pro. And you know, Cooper Flag and his trainer

1199
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 8: Matt McKenzie and the Mavericks will say that the role

1200
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 8: that they carved out for him was a good role

1201
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 8: of being the playmaker at the beginning of the season.

1202
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 8: This is something that really diversified his game. A lot

1203
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 8: of people around the league say hogwash and say it

1204
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 8: undermined him and didn't put him in a position to succeed.

1205
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 8: But when you're looking at this rookie of the Year,

1206
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 8: like you can make the case, hey, that's one of

1207
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 8: many examples of external hurdles that Cooper Flag had to

1208
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 8: overcome and he did it like he was professional, went

1209
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 8: through the growing pains, etc. So it's a really tough

1210
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 8: thing and I don't know where I'm leaning. Both players

1211
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 8: are very deserving and they they've checked all the boxes,

1212
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 8: but I understand winning has a variable. That's one of

1213
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 8: many criterias that voters have with work. Hear of the

1214
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 8: ear races. So I'm still wait in the last minute before.

1215
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: I just had my voter, I don't know if this

1216
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: is game versus fifty cent type of beef. They did

1217
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 3: used to be friends. But what did you make of

1218
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: Mark Cuban throwing Jason Kidd under the bus saying that

1219
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: he was a part of the situation with Luka Nancis

1220
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 3: being traded He knew about it. Jason Kidd initially at

1221
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: the press conference the first time talking with the media

1222
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 3: was like, oh, when are we going to move forward?

1223
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 3: And then today he had a five minute rant really

1224
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: defending himself and being as kind as possible to win

1225
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 3: over the court of public opinion. Who do you think

1226
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 3: is right here?

1227
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 8: I think both are right. Both are wrong knowing I don't.

1228
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 8: I can't prove this, but I had to think thought

1229
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 8: that Jason Kidd knew a lot earlier than he knows.

1230
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 8: And Jason kit is not above line. I mean, he

1231
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 8: has a track record of acting very innocent.

1232
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 3: When is this about him spilling the coke on the floor?

1233
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 5: Right?

1234
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 8: Yeah? So I think if we're going to extend this

1235
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 8: hip hop beef. It's it's about you know. This is

1236
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 8: Kendrick Lamar, Snoop or Snoop and eminem where they feel like, hey,

1237
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 8: you undermind me.

1238
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 5: I thought we were cool.

1239
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 8: But it'll get resolved quickly. I think that publicly and

1240
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 8: privately they know they're better off being on good terms.

1241
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 8: But yeah, I think Mark Cuban's right. But for him

1242
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 8: to throw all this stuff out out in the open,

1243
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 8: I don't know what value that does, but I don't

1244
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 8: think that he's wrong about it.

1245
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: The Great Mark Medina. You can follow him on x

1246
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: at Mark g Underscore Medina, Fox Sports Radio, NBA Insider. Mark,

1247
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: thanks for staying up late with us as always, man.

1248
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

1249
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 8: Appreciate you always fun talking Hoop and of course going

1250
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 8: down memory lay and all the classic hip hop albums,

1251
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 8: no doubt, thank you, Mark and bad Ones.

1252
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: I brought up Marshall Mathers LP two. Rick Rubin was

1253
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: in there a little bit. It wasn't too bad. I

1254
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 3: kind of was into it at the time until I

1255
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: re listened to the original and uh, yeah it falls

1256
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: quite short. Uh we're gonna try to not fall short

1257
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: with a Raiders conversation coming up, including a quarterback with

1258
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: a lot of his throws falling short of the receiver

1259
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: at times, and Kirk Cousins who could be the stopgap

1260
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: or just a placeholder until Fernando Mendoza gets up to speed.

1261
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 3: We will talk about it, Kirk Cousins with the Raiders

1262
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: coming up next, Kurt, Kirk, whatever you want to call.

1263
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,720
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1277
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Speaker 2: You know a lot of people fancy themselves as comedians,

1278
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: but maybe you should just kind of stay in your

1279
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: lane my attempt to be humors. Yeah, sometimes it doesn't

1280
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: really land all that well.

1281
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 3: So it definitely didn't with Phil Jackson that one.

1282
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: Time at Yes, what was the line if I offended

1283
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: any horses or cowboys? My apologies? Something like that. Yeah?

1284
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: Do I still have that in the machine?

1285
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: Phil Keaxi Chamesacks. Still no coaching me?

1286
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: I got that.

1287
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: That works sure any time he gets with Kendrick in

1288
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: the mix. That's a second Kendrick reference in like ten minutes.

1289
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: Mark Bradina drop more than that one.

1290
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 3: I'll take it, Mark Texas And if you heard it,

1291
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: Phil Jackson came back. Still no coaching me, one of

1292
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 3: my favorite freestyles.

1293
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 4: No doubt, no doubt.

1294
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: The Raiders we know are going to draft Fernanda Mendoza

1295
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: with the first overall pick. And this is something we've

1296
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: been talking about since the end of the season when

1297
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: they locked up the worst pick in the draft or

1298
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: the worst record in the NFL by sitting Max Crosby

1299
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,959
Speaker 2: who was traded and now was back and everybody's happy

1300
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 2: and nothing happened. Nothing to see here.

1301
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 3: Oh God works. Some mysterious ways. Isn't that what he says.

1302
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: That's essentially what he said for posting a gift of

1303
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: the Undertaker jumping out of a flaming casket.

1304
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: That's almost as good as uh God works. That's the

1305
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: Raiders way of saying it is basically.

1306
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: Definitely uh so and Mendoza had his pro day earlier

1307
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: this week, looked good, said all the right things. Obviously,

1308
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: we know that the Raiders are going to take him,

1309
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: no questions there. One thing we didn't know was he

1310
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: going to be the starter from day one. There was

1311
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: speculation that the Raiders were not keen on starting him

1312
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: from day one unless they absolutely had to. And then

1313
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: it was the head coach, Clint Kubiak, who did an

1314
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: interview earlier this week on national radio, and he basically said, yeah,

1315
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: it is our ideal for us if we were to

1316
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: have a rookie quarterback. Because obviously he's not speaking specifically

1317
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 2: about uh Fernanda Mendoza quite yet, but if we're in

1318
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: a situation where we have a rookie quarterback, we think

1319
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: he will behoop us to have a veteran in there

1320
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: to take reps first so we can learn under his tutelage,

1321
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: and that is what ended up happening. Kirk Cousins signs

1322
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 2: and people were freaking out about the initial contract. And

1323
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, So as I a five year,

1324
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy two million dollar contract with the Raiders,

1325
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: He's like, what, Yeah, that's not exactly what it is.

1326
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 3: Give me the devils and the details yet, So the

1327
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 3: real numbers.

1328
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: The Raiders are going to be on the hook for

1329
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: eleven million dollars guarantee this year. Okay, the Falcons are

1330
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: gonna pay him eight million dollars. So yeah, it's part

1331
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: of how it's structured in this offset language. They have

1332
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: to pay a portion of his salary. So the Raiders basically,

1333
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: I believe the least amount that they could pay him,

1334
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: while the Falcons had to pick up a certain amount

1335
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: on the other end. So he's gonna end up making

1336
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: about twenty million dollars this year guaranteed, which yes, that

1337
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: means another guaranteed contract for Kirk Cousins. Do you I

1338
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: have some numbers on this, Adam, By the way, have

1339
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: you seen this?

1340
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 3: No? I haven't.

1341
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: So he is the third highest compensated player in NFL history.

1342
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: Okay, do you know that that seems a little bit

1343
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 3: extreme for the production you're getting back?

1344
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: I would say so.

1345
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,479
Speaker 3: So is he part of the All Ski Mask team.

1346
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: He's part of the His agent, his agent is part

1347
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: of the all you know, if there's an All Madden

1348
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: team for agents, that's Kirk Cousins' agent.

1349
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 3: There was a time we thought can Kirk Cousins be elite?

1350
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: That was a real conversation.

1351
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: There is a discussion. And so what he did throughout

1352
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: his career he took advantage of team situations and his

1353
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: ability to cash in. So remember he was drafted the

1354
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: same year as RG three, and there are some people

1355
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 2: who said RG three was kind of a Daniel Snyder

1356
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: pick and Kirk Cousins was more of a Mike Shanahan pick.

1357
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: So obviously RG three goes to his injury issues. Kirk

1358
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: Cousins get is elevated and plays well for Washington. So

1359
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: his first extension signed three years eighty four million dollars

1360
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: with the Vikings after a couple of years as a

1361
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: starter with the reds Excuse me, what the yeah, I

1362
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: guess it was the Redskins at the time before they

1363
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: were the Commanders.

1364
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 3: That's accurate.

1365
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 2: Now, if you remember, the Vikings were coming off of

1366
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 2: that NFC Championship Game appearance when Case Keenum led them there,

1367
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: and people felt like, well, you know, Case Keenum is

1368
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: a good caretaker. We have a great roster. We're just

1369
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: missing a quarterback. And Kirk Cousins might not be Peyton Manning,

1370
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: but he's good enough. If we're good enough to make

1371
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: it to the NFC Championship Game with Case Keenum, we

1372
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: should be good enough to make it to a super

1373
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: Bowl and potentially win one with Kirk Cousins.

1374
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 3: That was the line of thinking that was on the

1375
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 3: Sefon Diggs miracle play that had Breebrey crimes.

1376
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, anyways, Marcus Williams mistackle, Yes, all of that unfortunate

1377
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: for the Saints, I would say so. So then after

1378
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: that he plays well for the Vikings, makes him playoff runs,

1379
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: but obviously don't make it to the promised land. Signed

1380
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: is a series of one and two year fully guaranteed

1381
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: contracts with the Vikings. Never signed, never inks a giant extension,

1382
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: but just one year here, two years for sixty million there,

1383
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 2: so one year for thirty million there.

1384
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 3: Basically as the cap is going up his money's going

1385
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 3: up along with it. It all correlates because he didn't

1386
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 3: get locked into a long term deal where it actually

1387
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 3: ends up looking more team friendly on the back end

1388
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: because the cap has gone up over four or.

1389
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 2: Five years and he's getting all of his compensation up front.

1390
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: And then his last big money deal was a four

1391
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: year contract for one hundred and eighty million dollars, much

1392
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 2: of which was guaranteed, that he signed with the Atlanta

1393
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: Falcons right before they drafted Michael Pinnix, which I don't

1394
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: think he saw coming.

1395
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: Many raised an eyebrow, including Kirk Kerkirk Cousins of that time.

1396
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: Yes he did so, all Toad. He will be the

1397
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 2: third highest paid player in NFL history once this contract

1398
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: runs out. Matthew Stafford, believe it or not, is the

1399
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 2: highest grossing PEP player. This is just money that they

1400
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: made on the field from their NFL contracts. Four hundred

1401
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: and eight million dollars is how much money's Matthew Stafford

1402
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: has pocketed as a quarterback in the NFL, followed by

1403
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers at three hundred and ninety five million. Kirk

1404
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: Cousins is going to check in at around three hundred

1405
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: and forty million dollars by the end of his contract.

1406
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 3: So Tom Brady really did take some contract deductions to

1407
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 3: make sure the team around him was better. I guess

1408
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 3: because Tom Brady thought he'd be on that list.

1409
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 2: He is on the list.

1410
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 3: He's right behind how long he played, He's behind.

1411
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 2: Kirk, He's behind Kirk Cousins at number four. I don't

1412
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: have the number one, don't have the table in front

1413
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: of me, but I know that Tom Brady is fourth

1414
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 2: on that list.

1415
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 3: So he's not living in squal or anything.

1416
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: No, he's not. And it's a top ten list, and

1417
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: not surprisingly, all ten of those players are quarterbacks. Big

1418
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: Ben is on there. Jared Golf I think, is at

1419
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: the very bottom of that list at number.

1420
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 3: Ten, and all recent guys, course Dak Prescott for a

1421
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 3: long time in the modern era, or if.

1422
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: You're playing right now, like Dak signed a humongous deal.

1423
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: You know, so guys like that, the guys who are

1424
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 3: the most recent guys to get the deal make the

1425
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 3: most because the cap has gone up. Hey, but you

1426
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 3: were so money and you don't even know. That's how

1427
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 3: it works.

1428
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: I don't care how good you are, Donald begrudge. They

1429
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,959
Speaker 2: get every cent that you can, especially playing this sport,

1430
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: you can last at thirty seven years old, like Kirk

1431
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: Cousin's playing this sport by all means gott love you man.

1432
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: Now, the former players may begrudge them and have a

1433
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 3: little bit of bitterness, and I think they don't do

1434
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 3: that over the years.

1435
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: Their retirement is crap, yeah, and their pension suck.

1436
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's part of the reason the

1437
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 3: old guys, the old NBA players like Charles Barkley, get

1438
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 3: on the modern game a lot because guys are making

1439
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 3: so much money. Although if you account for inflation, like

1440
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan, his last year was making thirty five million

1441
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 3: in ninety eight, his last year with the Bulls, that's

1442
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 3: like seventy million dollars today.

1443
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: It's not like those guys weren't getting paid relative back then.

1444
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 2: Like those guys were getting pretty good. By the time

1445
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 2: you got to Barkley's era, all the TNT guys shack shack,

1446
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: you know, cursing out the late Jerry Buzz saying play me,

1447
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 2: excuse me, pay me my money. I remember that where

1448
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: he was already making thirty five million dollars a year

1449
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 2: or thirty million dollars a year, whatever it.

1450
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 3: Was, didn't you tell him that during a preseason game? Yes,

1451
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 3: it was a preseason game, and that was I think

1452
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 3: in Hawaii, and that was the turning point for Jerry

1453
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 3: Buss knowing that he would trade this guy at some point.

1454
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 3: Although Kobe may have said something.

1455
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: To do with ye, I think Kobe had a lot

1456
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: to do with that and his dangling the carrot in

1457
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: front of the Clippers as leverage to sign an extension

1458
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: with the Lakers at the time. So here's the interesting

1459
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 2: question when it comes to Kirk Cousins. So, and I

1460
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: pose this to our colleague. Former nfl A quarterback Rodney

1461
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: Pete played twelve thirteen years in the league, the first

1462
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: five six years as a starter between Detroit and Philadelphia,

1463
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 2: I would say, the last six or seven years as major.

1464
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: Majority of that time he was a backup. And said, so,

1465
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: if you're Kirk Cousins and you've made all this money

1466
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: throughout your career, you're thirty seven years old, but you

1467
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: still want to kind of hang around for a little

1468
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: bit longer. Are you going to a place like the

1469
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 2: Raiders that you know is a rebuild You're probably going

1470
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 2: to start, You're going to be tasked with being a

1471
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: mentor to Fernando Mendoza. But at least you know, barring

1472
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 2: men was a coming in and having the greatest camp

1473
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: ever and beating you out in camp. You're going to

1474
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: be the starter or We heard Sean McVay speaking earlier

1475
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: this week at the league meetings, he mentioned Kirk Cousins

1476
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 2: by name as someone he wanted who was he was

1477
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 2: interested in having backing up Matthew Stafford. If you're Kirk,

1478
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 2: do you entertain being a backup quarterback to Matthew Stafford?

1479
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: Knowing that Matthew Stafford played in every single game last season,

1480
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 2: somehow we thought he'd be broken down, right, But you

1481
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 2: have a chance to win a championship. You've gotten all

1482
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: your money. Now you have a chance to actually you know,

1483
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 2: as a backup or otherwise you're still a super Bowl

1484
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 2: champion at that point. Uh And Rodney said, if it

1485
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 2: were up to him at this point, at that point

1486
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 2: in his career and he was in the situation Kirk

1487
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 2: is in, he would have made the decision to go

1488
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 2: to a team where he could win a championship. But

1489
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 2: obviously it's a case by case basis when it comes to.

1490
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 3: That, I mean, he basically did that near the end

1491
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 3: of his career.

1492
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 2: Well, he went to the Raiders.

1493
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 3: He went to the Panthers, although he started initially with

1494
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 3: the Panthers for an entire season.

1495
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 2: The Panthers was different the Raiders. Yes, he went to

1496
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: the Raiders because rich Gannon had his shoulders separated in

1497
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 2: the title game the year before by Tony Sarragusa, and

1498
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: the Raiders had to throw on somebody no one ever

1499
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: heard of named Bobby Hoying, and he was so bad

1500
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: they took him out of the game and put rich

1501
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 2: Gannon back in the game with a separated shoulder. That's

1502
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: how bad it was. So John Gruden was like, I

1503
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: gotta get somebody in here who I can trust at

1504
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 2: least a little bit. And of course, yeah, Rodney played

1505
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 2: for him in Philadelphia, so he brought in Rodney to

1506
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: be Rich's backup. And then to your point, he went it.

1507
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 2: But Carolina was sort of a rebook.

1508
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 3: Honestly, Caroline was coming off a one in fifteen season.

1509
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: Rodney didn't say he's not set this explicitly, but he

1510
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 2: kind of alluded to the fact that he went to

1511
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 2: Carolina to kind of ride off from the sunset and

1512
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 2: hold a clipboard and basically mentor Chris wink.

1513
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, he's running for his life.

1514
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, now he had to get thrown into the fire. Chris,

1515
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: Chris got hurt or Chris was just so damn bad there.

1516
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: They threw Rodney in there.

1517
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 3: You know, he handled the ball off to Stephen Davis lot.

1518
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 3: It worked out at times. They had a major turnaround.

1519
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 3: They went seven to nine with him as the starterraft

1520
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 3: for going one in fifteen they didn't.

1521
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: He was instrumental in the turnaround, along with John Fox

1522
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 2: and that and the ROI died up defense and all

1523
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 2: that they were Wait a second, what was one punter? No,

1524
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: it was not Todd Tarburn. It was basically the entire

1525
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: defensive line. It was a couple except Brenton Buckner I

1526
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: think might have been the only one. I think Mike

1527
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 2: Rucker was on that. Chris Jenkins was on that.

1528
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 3: I don't think the big cat Chris Jenkins was.

1529
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 2: I'm like eighty percent sure that Chris Jenkins was implicated

1530
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 2: in that.

1531
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 3: Look, don't make me go down this road of hating

1532
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 3: on the Raiders. The Raiders because you're coming after my

1533
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 3: pants's nostalgia, right, now come.

1534
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 2: With me, bro, What are you gonna say? I know

1535
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: my team sucks? What else you got? All right?

1536
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 3: That's all I needed to hear.

1537
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 2: My team has been awful for the majority of my life.

1538
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 3: Well, Kirk Cousins, I think got a taste of being

1539
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 3: a starter again at the end of last season because

1540
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 3: Michael Pennix was out. He actually won a primetime game

1541
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 3: against the Rams.

1542
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: You did.

1543
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 3: Why am I gonna go the Rams? I mean, come on,

1544
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 3: I know want to pull with Kevin Durant and look

1545
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 3: like I'm going to the better team, the stack team

1546
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 3: out there. It is totally the same thing right now.

1547
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 3: He's thirty seven, he played decent at the end of

1548
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 3: last season, and he's a competitor and he wants to play.

1549
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you kind of gets your cake and eat

1550
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 3: it too, if you want to play and get money.

1551
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 3: The Raiders is a decent situation, yeah.

1552
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 2: And I don't understand from the Raiders stand people are saying, like,

1553
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: why would you draft Fernano Mendoza and put him in

1554
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 2: a rebuilding situation and not let him learn on the job,

1555
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 2: And it's like, because you want to throw him to

1556
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,799
Speaker 2: the Wolves and destroy his confidence potentially.

1557
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Sam Darnold just got back to the point

1558
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 3: where he's a good quarterback again after what happened with

1559
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 3: the Jets.

1560
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: It was like, this makes all the sense in the world.

1561
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: And by the way, it's not like, by the way,

1562
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: this is how he used to be back in the day.

1563
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 2: The more recent example is Patrick Mahomes, who sat his

1564
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 2: entire first year behind Alex Smith and came out his

1565
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 2: second season and lit the world on fire. I'm not

1566
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: saying that Fernando Mendoza is going to be Patrick Mahomes, obviously,

1567
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 2: but there's value to sitting behind and learning and getting reps,

1568
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 2: mental reps and all of that learning through practice as

1569
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: opposed to being thrown out there with a team that's

1570
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 2: not ready to win quite yet. It makes all the

1571
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: sense in the world to me that you would sit

1572
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: him on the bench first. I think most teams should

1573
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: prefer to do that and only throw the rookie in

1574
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 2: there if we have to.

1575
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 3: It would be one thing if you had more of

1576
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 3: a foundation, a serviceable offensive line. Yes, you have a

1577
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 3: running back that's talented, but they're getting the number one

1578
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 3: pick for a reason. This is a full blown rebuild

1579
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 3: where I don't want to put my young quarterback in

1580
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 3: harm's way. I mean, we saw this with Joe Burrow

1581
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 3: early on. He was good, he was great, but the

1582
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 3: offensive line was bad and he ended up having a

1583
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 3: serious injury. I think he tore like three ligaments in

1584
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 3: his knee. So I don't want to go through that.

1585
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 3: Why don't we see just how bad the offensive line

1586
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 3: is when Kirk Cousins is out there, and then maybe

1587
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 3: if it's decent, we're like, okay, now we can worry

1588
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 3: about Fernando Mendoza being behind this line, Like, let's watch

1589
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 3: the guinea pig a little bit and see how many

1590
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 3: times he gets sacked before we put our prize possession

1591
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 3: out there that we're hoping leads the franchise for the

1592
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 3: next fifteen seasons.

1593
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, which, by the way, the offensive line is already improved.

1594
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: Getting Tyer Lindenbaum one of the top three centers in

1595
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: the entire league certainly gonna help. And they're obviously going

1596
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 2: to try to get some more help on the offensive

1597
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 2: line in the draft as well. So I think this

1598
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: is the smartest thing that they could have done. Whether

1599
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 2: if I were Kirk Cousins, if I'm to be honest

1600
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: with you, see the problem is too you're a competitor.

1601
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 2: You want to play like you Most of these guys

1602
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 2: are in the sport because they want to play. They

1603
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 2: don't want to sit on the bench and hold a clipboard.

1604
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: So if you're Kirk, it's like I might have a

1605
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: chance to win as a backup somewhere, even though I've

1606
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: made a lot of money. But I'm a football player.

1607
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 2: I want to play football. So whether it's for a

1608
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: bad team or whether for a great team, if this

1609
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: is the opportunity that I have to actually go out

1610
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 2: and start and play, this is what I want to do.

1611
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 3: He's had two different scenarios in his career that have

1612
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 3: formed him in this mindset. First of all, he comes

1613
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 3: out with RG three and may have felt like he

1614
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: outperformed him in the preseason or looked as good as him,

1615
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 3: or looked like he could be a starter right away.

1616
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 3: He wasn't. He finally got to that point. And then

1617
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 3: he signs with Atlanta as you mentioned, and Michael Pennix

1618
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 3: gets drafted. So this is the one situation where he

1619
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 3: could be the clear cut guy because they don't want

1620
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 3: to throw Bernano Mendoza to the Wolves. And even though

1621
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 3: he's thirty seven, he still thinks he's iced out Kirk Cousins.

1622
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 3: That's fine with me. If he wants to go out there,

1623
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 3: compete and show what he can still do and get

1624
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 3: paid twenty million, only eleven coming from the Raiders this season,

1625
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 3: I don't hate it.

1626
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 2: No, Well, here's the thing, and I don't think this

1627
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 2: is likely to happen at all. Let's say Kirk Cousins

1628
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: balls out and the Raiders buy some way happen, find

1629
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: a way to make it into the postseason as a

1630
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: wildcard or something. Kevin, do you floor how.

1631
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 3: Many of your guys are on Royds for that to

1632
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 3: happen this year?

1633
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: I might have had a couple of pops tonight. But

1634
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 2: do you consider the Jordan Love situation where he sits

1635
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 2: for a couple of years before you start him or

1636
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: is it just twin deniable. You can't afford to do

1637
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: that with the first overall pick Jordan Love was taking

1638
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 2: in the twenties by the Green Bay Packers, and obviously

1639
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: he was following Aaron Rodgers, who was a legitimate legend

1640
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: in one of the top I think one of the

1641
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 2: top three quarterbacks in the history of the sport.

1642
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to picture that. Yes, Kirk Cousins, well,

1643
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 3: look with this team, with this Raiders team, remember.

1644
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: The Bengals and Carson Palmer's first year and John Kittna,

1645
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: he might have made a Pro Bowl they won eight

1646
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: to eight. I think, yeah, there are people kind of

1647
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: flirting with the idea of maybe we just keep John

1648
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: and keep this thing rolling for another year.

1649
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 3: This is NFC South talk. You guys are in the

1650
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 3: AFC West. You're not allowed to dream like I'm.

1651
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: Speaking in hypotheticals at him.

1652
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 3: Just I just I'll be a show in reality a

1653
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 3: little bit. Okay, if that did happen, and Kirk looked

1654
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 3: decent Indiana last year, it was okay. If that did happen, yeah,

1655
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 3: you could, you could let it go. If they ended

1656
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 3: up being a wild card team, maybe that's the direction

1657
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 3: you go. But they also might be like, well, we

1658
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 3: still have a guy we have to play at some point.

1659
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 3: Because Kirk Cousins is thirty seven. This isn't Sam Darnold

1660
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 3: with the Vikings, you know.

1661
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: And as long as he is on that affordable contract.

1662
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 2: If you find yourself in a position where you are

1663
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 2: even if you don't make the wildcard if you missed

1664
01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs by a game or two, say hey, we're

1665
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 2: right there. We got these young kid in here who

1666
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: we drafted highly. We're confident in put them in there.

1667
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: Take the money we were giving Kirk Cousins and give

1668
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 2: it to somebody else and improve the roster. And maybe

1669
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 2: we're competing with a rookie, with a quarterback on a

1670
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 2: rookie contract. We don't want to waste another year on

1671
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 2: his rookie contract by keeping them on the bench. I

1672
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 2: buy that.

1673
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 3: Coming up next, do you buy the Washington Wizards apologizing

1674
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 3: to their fans for something outside of the product really

1675
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 3: on the court. Okay, this kind of did happen on

1676
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 3: the court. We'll explain next in April. Fool's joke gone

1677
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 3: wrong in DC with the Wizards.

1678
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,880
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1679
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,640
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1680
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,920
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1681
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,800
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1682
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: They tricked me and I don't care anymore. FNA Cottonna

1683
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: back in FNA on FSR Coming up in about ten

1684
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 2: minutes or so. Don McLain Big Ten analysts for the

1685
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 2: Big Ten Network Basketball analysts leading scorer, all time leading scorer,

1686
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: and UCLA basketball history. Going to come on and talk

1687
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 2: Final four with us. With two of the final four

1688
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 2: teams being from the Big Ten conference, we could potentially

1689
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: have Big Ten on Big Ten action in the final

1690
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 2: four if things break their way. So we'll talk to

1691
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 2: Domic Clain coming up at the top of the next hour.

1692
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 3: You know, Don McLain drafted by a team named the

1693
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 3: Washington Bullets back in the day before they became the Wizards. Now,

1694
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 3: Bullets was a cooler name. The uniforms are cooler too,

1695
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 3: but with gang violence and stuff, they.

1696
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 2: Event it hit a little too close to home.

1697
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 3: I can understand why real in DC. Now, what happened

1698
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 3: here this week on April Fools is it's an abomination.

1699
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 3: I cannot believe that this would happen. Here's the scenario.

1700
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 3: Washington Wizards had another game that they lost three to

1701
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 3: one thirty one to the Philadelphia seventy six ers at home.

1702
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 2: Hey, you score one hundred and thirty one points and

1703
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 2: still lose by twenty. That's the crazy part to me, Like,

1704
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 2: how does that happen?

1705
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: Abracadabra. The Wizards, they will find a way way, a

1706
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 3: magic wand on real sokt.

1707
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 2: Of blowout in the NBA the last few weeks has

1708
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: been ridiculous, by the way, it's anyway, go.

1709
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 3: On April first, and they decided to do a little

1710
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 3: bit of a prank on a fan where they had

1711
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 3: a guy at half court blindfolded and if he made

1712
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:45,560
Speaker 3: a half court shot during the timeout entertainment as you

1713
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 3: would say, the in arena entertainment going on, if he

1714
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 3: made that shot, he would win ten grand. Well, since

1715
01:18:55,040 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 3: the blindfold was on, they all reacted to it, the masters, ceremonies,

1716
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 3: whoever is on the mic there, the mascots, as if

1717
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 3: he made the shot. It started celebrating immediately. Now the

1718
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 3: crowd obviously saw he missed it. The half quarter, they're.

1719
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: All confused, like what's happening right now?

1720
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 3: M But he takes the blindfold off and they give

1721
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 3: him the big blank check, you know, the whole cardboard,

1722
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 3: poster board check that you get. And then they showed

1723
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 3: him the replay on the jumbo tron of how his

1724
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 3: shot was looking like Russell Westbrook shooting with the Washington

1725
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,799
Speaker 3: Wizards a couple of years ago, just a bit outside.

1726
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 3: So the fan sheepishly all puts his hands on his head.

1727
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 3: He knows he hasn't actually won the money, and the

1728
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 3: girl on the microphone apologizes to the fan and says, yeah,

1729
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 3: it was an April Fool's joke. You're not getting the money,

1730
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 3: but we'll give you some tickets. We'll give you a

1731
01:19:58,439 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 3: sign in Jersey.

1732
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 2: Have all this for you, so so things that are

1733
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 2: basically given to me for free anyway, because no one's

1734
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: been buying tickets to see the Wizards A marsh All,

1735
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 2: Right's aw me, what the hell? It's so great? Thank you, April.

1736
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 2: I can see more trash basketball for the last week

1737
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: of the season garbage.

1738
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 3: April second comes around and Washington. The Wizards, on their

1739
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 3: official social media account, issues an apology says.

1740
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 2: They were getting blown the f up by everybody saying

1741
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: how messed up that was?

1742
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 3: They said, we apologized for last night's April Fool's joke

1743
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 3: that left many wondering if we had misled a fan.

1744
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 3: The skin involving our mascot and other members of our

1745
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 3: performance team, was scripted and intended to celebrate the day.

1746
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 3: All participants were in on the joke, but we missed

1747
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 3: the mark as the fan missed the shot Our fans

1748
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 3: are our priority, and we continue to be committed to

1749
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 3: providing a positive experience to all who attend our games.

1750
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 2: Well that's a lie. You haven't provided a positive experience

1751
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: for fans and for thirty years.

1752
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 4: It's so funny, Okay, anyway, I'm just being honest.

1753
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 3: I think this is b s. This was a good

1754
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 3: April Fool's joke.

1755
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,839
Speaker 2: So the joke was because the joke was on the fans,

1756
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 2: not the guy on the court. Obviously, right, the guy on.

1757
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 3: The court was in on it too. They didn't screw

1758
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 3: over an actual fan taking that shot. He was a

1759
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 3: part of the joke, but no.

1760
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 2: One knew that. So the belief was. The belief was,

1761
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 2: well I do. It's like, man, that's one of the

1762
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 2: messed up, most messed up things you can do to somebody.

1763
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 2: Tell them they won almost ten thousand dollars. Not life

1764
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,799
Speaker 2: changing money, but it certainly is a humantics help to somebody,

1765
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 2: especially these days.

1766
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 3: You're telling the guy he.

1767
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: Wont ten granted, and all of a sudden you say, no, now, sorry,

1768
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,560
Speaker 2: we're just playing with your dog. That's like, really, what

1769
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: makes it a good joke? No, that is not funny,

1770
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 2: that's at all what's it. I'll put it this way, Adam,

1771
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: if you were you, you would not find that funny. Yeah,

1772
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: maybe not. On fs final hour of fn A on

1773
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 2: FSR Kevin Figures, Adam Austin with you guys, thank you

1774
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 2: guys for joining us as you do each and every

1775
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 2: single week. Hit us up on next at KFIG one

1776
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 2: and at.

1777
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 3: Follow Adam a Adam Ashley, Kevin Kevin. Yes, yes, what

1778
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 3: if they didn't release an apology statement, they just released

1779
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 3: an explanation like, haha, got you guys that dude who

1780
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 3: took the shot with the blind pulled on, he was

1781
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 3: in on it too, or apologizing for after a little

1782
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 3: light I think.

1783
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the economy, Gregor, I think people will still not

1784
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 2: not be fans of that.

1785
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 3: F them soft Come on, it's April fools and they

1786
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 3: actually pulled it off on April fools. How are you

1787
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 3: not having your radar up for anything that's happening on

1788
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:40,839
Speaker 3: April fools?

1789
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 2: I am, are you in that situation when that that

1790
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 2: gets done in NBA Arenas on a night in, night out, basis,

1791
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 2: every single solitary night, it's an ordinary night that a

1792
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: guy shoots a half court shot and you're gonna sit

1793
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: there and potentially potentially embarrassed the guy in front of.

1794
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 2: I would say, you know, twelve thousand people, but it's

1795
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: a wizard's game, so like four hundred people, you're gonna

1796
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 2: embarrass the guy in front.

1797
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: Of maybe become too good what it was? He was embarrassed.

1798
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 3: He tried to laugh it off. I mean when they

1799
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 3: do the thing in Atlanta where they take it a

1800
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 3: step further, when there's the marriage proposal. You know, once

1801
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 3: in a while they'll have somebody it's totally scripted and

1802
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 3: she says no or slaps him or something like that.

1803
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 3: Have you seen the one they do in Atlanta Hawks games?

1804
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 3: Or they'll come up afterwards because I guess they got

1805
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 3: a lot of Pond stars there or pond stores, and

1806
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 3: they will bring a little metal detector thing jewelry detector

1807
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 3: and they'll say, that's not a real diamond that you

1808
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 3: just gave her, and then she smacks them. That's not bad.

1809
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 3: Is that obvious enough for everybody to know, Hey, it's

1810
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 3: just a joke, just a joke. It's all good.

1811
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 2: Uh.

1812
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 3: Probably Okay.

1813
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,799
Speaker 2: Now people are not walking around arenas with metal detectors

1814
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 2: trying to determine whether or not. Yeah, I think that.

1815
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 2: I think everybody's kind of in on one on a

1816
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: situation like that, Adam, Yes, I would say, so is

1817
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 2: it Cubic Sarconian, Cubic Sarconia. Yes, that is the Yeah,

1818
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:07,839
Speaker 2: that is the fake diamonds.

1819
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 3: So fake ass diamonds going on in Atlanta, all right?

1820
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 3: I think later, Yes, we'll get to your phone calls

1821
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 3: on the final four. Your brackets will update you on

1822
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 3: ours here in the Bracket Challenge of Fox Sports Radio too,

1823
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 3: because there's big implications coming up in a specific game tomorrow.

1824
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 2: These are the biggest of implications, Adam.

1825
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 5: On this.

1826
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 6: Is it.

1827
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 3: If I'm gonna hold on, I need a certain team

1828
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: to win for me. I'm a little bit scared about

1829
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 3: that right.

1830
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 2: Now, as you should be joining us to talk about that,

1831
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 2: among others, is the leading score in UCLA basketball history,

1832
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 2: among other things. Let's get to him, Adam. Let's not

1833
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 2: make him way too much longer. Alan Dragon did, thank you,

1834
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 2: Doddy Oh.

1835
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 3: Grant Hill may have gone baseliner the next guest before,

1836
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 3: but am I not so humble opinion, He's got a

1837
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 3: long way to go before he's on the level of

1838
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 3: this broadcaster. That's our next guest, especially when Grant is

1839
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 3: sitting there mouth of gape, has the Blue devils collapsed

1840
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: right before his eyes. So to help us with the

1841
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 3: actual analysis of how we got to the final four,

1842
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 3: we bring on a man who's never been afraid to

1843
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 3: tell the God's honest truth about what he's seeing out

1844
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 3: there and does so with the Big Ten Network sometimes

1845
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 3: with my guy Carlo Jimenez. He's the all time leading

1846
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 3: scorer in the history of the UCLA Bruins. It's the legend.

1847
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 3: Don McClain joining us here on F and A on

1848
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 3: FSR dmac thanks for doing this, Yeah, no worries.

1849
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 5: Good to talk to you guys. And by the way,

1850
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 5: Grant Hill went by me more than once on the

1851
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 5: each line and in the middle and everywhere else.

1852
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 2: You're and great company when it came to that. Now,

1853
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 2: but Adam brought up something about being the leaguing score

1854
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: at UCLA. So you were the leading score in the

1855
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 2: Pac ten slash Pac twelve. They're getting reimagined coming up

1856
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: this next year. UCLA is now in the Big ten.

1857
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 2: So are you the leaguing scorer in the Big ten

1858
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 2: or is it like Luca Garza or somebody I was.

1859
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 5: Told that the whatever four school the four schools that

1860
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 5: went to the Big Ten, their historical numbers wouldn't be

1861
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 5: wouldn't be used, I guess, And so I'm not on

1862
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 5: any Big ten list. The interesting part will be, well,

1863
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,759
Speaker 5: the new PAC twelve still recognize the four schools numbers

1864
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 5: that left. I don't know the answer to that.

1865
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 3: All right, Don mcclan is our guest here, de mack.

1866
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 3: I do want to ask you about the ending to

1867
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 3: that Duke game. I mean, is that one of the

1868
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 3: wildest things you've ever seen, considering it's called March Madden

1869
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 3: as we've had plenty of it. And how much blame

1870
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 3: should John Shire take? I just only because I saw

1871
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 3: the side by side video and he was telling the

1872
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 3: kid to throw the ball little boozer there. So he

1873
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,560
Speaker 3: said postgame, you know you got to hold onto the basketball,

1874
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 3: but he was saying it. Yeah.

1875
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 6: Well.

1876
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 5: The one thing, and I try not to sound like

1877
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 5: an old curmudgeon during broadcasts, I've been doing it for

1878
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 5: a long time, but one thing that inevitably comes up

1879
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,560
Speaker 5: a lot is time and score and being able to

1880
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 5: execute late game, late clock, whatever it is, late half situations,

1881
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 5: and it's it's and again not this sound like the

1882
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 5: old guy, but it's just not taught really anymore. And

1883
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 5: in terms of like I played so many games and

1884
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 5: was coach when I was younger, it wasn't just au

1885
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 5: that you kind of understood time and score situations. And

1886
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 5: so when you get into that that bang bang situation

1887
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 5: which Duke was in, it's really not on the coach

1888
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 5: at that point. There's not enough time, and so you

1889
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 5: kind of have to rely on your players to make

1890
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 5: good decisions and execute. And yeah, in a perfect world,

1891
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 5: when you're not sped up and it's not the NCAA

1892
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,759
Speaker 5: tournament and going to the final four, you probably Caden

1893
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 5: Boozer probably would have executed that and understood, look, there's

1894
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 5: three seconds. If I just hold on to it, they're

1895
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 5: going to foul me, and I'll go make free throws

1896
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 5: in the games over. But you get sped up, decision

1897
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 5: making becomes difficult. And he tried to do the right thing,

1898
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 5: which is get rid of it and run out the clock.

1899
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 5: But there, you know, he could have thrown the ball

1900
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 5: up in the air and time would have expired. He

1901
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 5: could have done a lot of things, But to me,

1902
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 5: it just comes down to and look at the Boozer

1903
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 5: Twins are really really good players, like maybe the to

1904
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,799
Speaker 5: Au players of all time, but they probably are lacking

1905
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 5: in a little bit of understanding of time and score

1906
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 5: and how to execute that in close games.

1907
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 2: So John Shire's taking a lot of heat, not only

1908
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 2: for the way things ended this year, but going back

1909
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: to last year in the Final four against Houston, remember

1910
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 2: they had a big I think it was a nine

1911
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 2: or ten point lead with less than three minutes left

1912
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 2: in Houston stormback. And obviously Shires had a great run

1913
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: of success in a short tenure at Duke. But is

1914
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 2: some of that late game or I guess the recklessness

1915
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 2: if you want to call it that by Duke the

1916
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 2: last couple of years. Does that hang on the shoulders

1917
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 2: of John Shires? Should he be taking criticism for that?

1918
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 5: I mean, ultimately the coach is always going to take

1919
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 5: the criticism. But again going back to my last point,

1920
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 5: Duke's always young. They're always a young team because they

1921
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 5: recruit so well. They don't typically have major guys that

1922
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 5: are three or four year guys. They're one or two

1923
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 5: and done typically, And so how much has John Shire

1924
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 5: had the time to really coach them in late game

1925
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 5: situations and how much experience do these guys have. I mean, look,

1926
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 5: it's it's one thing to play at high level AU

1927
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 5: and in high school if you're one of the big

1928
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 5: programs in the country, but it's a whole another when

1929
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 5: you're playing in the NCAA tournament, and so it's just

1930
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 5: a different animal. John Shire can coach. Look, they wouldn't

1931
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 5: be where they're at. Look, I know he recruits well,

1932
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 5: but he can coach. I know John, I've got to

1933
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 5: know him over the years. But I do think if

1934
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 5: you were to pinpoint a reason why these last two

1935
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 5: things have happened in the last two years, it's probably

1936
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 5: because of the youth on their teams.

1937
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Speaker 2: Domakline joining us here on FNA. On FSR, let's talk

1938
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 2: about Duke's primary rival there in North Carolina. They miss

1939
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 2: out on Tommy Lloyd, who spent the entire week dancing

1940
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: around whether or not he was taking the UNC job. Finally,

1941
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 2: you know, we hear earlier on Friday that he signs

1942
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,719
Speaker 2: an extension with Arizona and that Steve Currs his Michael Jordan.

1943
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm sure he is. Now that they signed.

1944
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 2: Now that you put pin the paper and sign, you

1945
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 2: to an extension, just one do you think is the

1946
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 2: right decision by Tommy Lloyd to stay at Arizona and

1947
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 2: spur in North Carolina? And then what direction do you

1948
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 2: believe North Carolina goes in?

1949
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 5: Now? Made it seem like he was going to North Carolina?

1950
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,680
Speaker 5: Didn't he right by not denying it? I thought for

1951
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 5: sure he was going, But the fact that he signed

1952
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 5: that extension, he's not. Look, Arizona is a really really

1953
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 5: good job. They have the resources, they have facilities, they

1954
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 5: have everything that you need to compete at the national level,

1955
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 5: and they're in the final four this year. I'm not

1956
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 5: sure which direction North Carolina goes because you heard over

1957
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 5: the years that they like to keep it in house

1958
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 5: people that have ties to the program. But there really

1959
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 5: isn't that guy anymore, and so I guess you go

1960
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 5: for best available. But there's a lot of coaches that

1961
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 5: that have gotten pay raises because of this North Carolina

1962
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 5: job being open. I'll tell you that. But I don't

1963
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 5: know do they go to the pro ranks and try

1964
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 5: and bring somebody back from there. But it's from my understanding,

1965
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 5: the North Carolina job is still a really good job.

1966
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 5: The ACC isn't what it used to be. But they

1967
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 5: have the facilities and the resources to be still be

1968
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 5: a big time program, So it'll be interesting to see

1969
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:58,560
Speaker 5: which direction they go.

1970
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 3: Don we talked about D game execution, AAU ball changing things.

1971
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 3: We always want to talk about how much the NBA

1972
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 3: has changed. Is it better, is it worse? What do

1973
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 3: you think about the state of the college game right now?

1974
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 5: Well, just watching this tournament, you would say everything's great.

1975
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 5: But if you talk to coaches around the country, which

1976
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 5: I do, doing games, getting ready for games, being at

1977
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 5: shoot arounds practices, they'll tell you it's a disaster because

1978
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 5: of the portal and because of NIL. And I look

1979
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 5: that being a head coach at a program that is

1980
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 5: expected to win has always been a difficult job. It's

1981
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 5: triple difficult now because if your school has the resources,

1982
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:45,759
Speaker 5: then you can play ball. But if you don't, you don't.

1983
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 5: And that component, to me, shouldn't be a factor. And

1984
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 5: the reason I say that is there are good coaches

1985
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:56,799
Speaker 5: getting fired because they don't have resources, meaning money for NIL,

1986
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 5: and to me, that just takes away from the sport.

1987
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 5: If you're having coaches getting fired, they're proven they can coach,

1988
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 5: but because they don't have money, they get fired, and

1989
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 5: so they have to get some and I don't know

1990
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 5: what the answer is, you guys. I mean, I've thought

1991
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 5: about it, and I've talked to people about it. I'm

1992
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 5: not exactly sure what the solution is, but it is

1993
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 5: out of control now. The one thing I will say

1994
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 5: that is controllable that would make things a little better

1995
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,640
Speaker 5: is they got to get control of the portal. And

1996
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 5: it can't be just you can transfer every year with

1997
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 5: no penalty, I think, and I think everyone's in agreement

1998
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 5: everyone I've talked to is you can transfer once and

1999
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 5: play immediately, but after that you got to sit. And

2000
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 5: I think that would curtail a lot of guys, you know,

2001
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 5: transferring three you know, three schools and four years. Four

2002
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 5: schools in four years. I think that's an easy one,

2003
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 5: and I would hope that the NCAA would would get

2004
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 5: on top of that and make that a rule.

2005
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 2: Don You mentioned how good the hew entertaining the tournament

2006
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 2: has been, and obviously we have a bunch of high

2007
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 2: seeds remaining here in the final four, but this is

2008
01:32:58,160 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 2: back to back years where we have not had a

2009
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 2: major make it into the sweet sixteen, and so people

2010
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 2: are talking about Adam and I have discussed it on

2011
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,799
Speaker 2: our show. The era of the underdog of the Cinderella

2012
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 2: making a deep run is probably over in the way

2013
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 2: that we've seen it in the past, because of nil

2014
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 2: and because of the transfer portal. Do you think that's

2015
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 2: something gets lost in the NCAA tournament when it comes

2016
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 2: to that or are you excited about having higher seeded

2017
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 2: matchups the deeper get into the tournament because we know,

2018
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 2: more often than not, the Cinderella, you know, the glass

2019
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 2: lipper breaks eventually.

2020
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, the tournament's still entertaining. I mean,

2021
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 5: I'm no one's gonna sit here and say they're not

2022
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 5: watching it that there has been good games. Is it

2023
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 5: missing the Cinderella? I guess Iowa was the biggest Cinderella

2024
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 5: this year is a nine seed. But you're right, Kevin,

2025
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 5: like that that era. All the good mid major players

2026
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 5: that would have made a mid major team make a

2027
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 5: run are now getting paid by high majors. So there's

2028
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 5: no continuity at the mid major level anymore. If you're

2029
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 5: a good mid major program and you developed a couple

2030
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 5: of guys for two three years, well guess what if

2031
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 5: they're good, they're going to get paid by a high major.

2032
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 5: And that's just the reality. And so if you're if

2033
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 5: you're a big fan of that of mid majors, low

2034
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 5: majors making runs in the NCAA tournament until until there's

2035
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 5: some legislature and some and some guardrails on this nil

2036
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 5: that that era is over.

2037
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 2: Donald Glean our guest here on FNA on FSR, analysts

2038
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 2: for the Big Ten Network, and let's let's talk Big Ten.

2039
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 2: Because a lot of people, I guess they thought Florida

2040
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 2: was the weakest one seed of all of the one

2041
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 2: seeds and that Illinois could make a run. But I

2042
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 2: didn't see a lot of people predicting that Illinois be

2043
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 2: able to make a run into the final four. You

2044
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 2: cover the Big Ten, you've seen Illinois this year? Are

2045
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 2: you surprised that they are where they are right now?

2046
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm not at all. And I did two

2047
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 5: of their games in January, and I'm looking at their

2048
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 5: roster and looking at their size and the way they played.

2049
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 5: Brad Underwood's a really good coach, and so did I

2050
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 5: think they were going to the Final four. I didn't

2051
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 5: think they weren't. But I can't say that I was like, oh,

2052
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 5: this is a Final four team. But as the season

2053
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 5: went on and Woggler kept going and Stojakovich accepted the

2054
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 5: role coming off the bench with which I think was

2055
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 5: one of the biggest stories of this Illinois team was

2056
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 5: him accepting that role and being good in that role

2057
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 5: versus saying I want to start and maybe they're not

2058
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 5: not as good and so, but they have they have.

2059
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 5: They check a lot of boxes, you guys, they you know,

2060
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 5: everybody on their team can shoot. They shoot a lot

2061
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 5: of threes. Their bigs can pass, they can get in

2062
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 5: the paint, Woggler, Stayakovic. Defensively, they're long at the rim

2063
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:28,600
Speaker 5: like they they they I'm not surprised they're in the

2064
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 5: Final four, and I wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised.

2065
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 5: I would say this. I think they're going to beat

2066
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 5: yukon tomorrow and we'll see what happens in the National Championship.

2067
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 3: Don regard Michigan a big ten team here, obviously no

2068
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 3: surprise there, but they keep talking about they want to

2069
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 3: be one of the best teams. They want to be

2070
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 3: the best Michigan team ever. What's going to be the

2071
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 3: biggest challenge they're going to be presented with against Arizona.

2072
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 5: You know what's funny, Adam is in, Jalen Rose and

2073
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 5: Joan and Chris. I know all those guys really well.

2074
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 5: I love those guys. But what's funny to me is

2075
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 5: everyone's like when Lindenborg said that everybody started talking about

2076
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 5: the Fab five, Well, the eighty nine team won the

2077
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 5: National champions exactly, not the Fab five the best team

2078
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 5: ever at Michigan. I know the Fab five was the

2079
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 5: most famous team ever at Michigan, but the eighty nine

2080
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 5: team won it. So anyways, that's been bothering me that

2081
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 5: every time that comes up, they jumped out there, are

2082
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 5: they better than the Fab five? Well, the Fab five

2083
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 5: wasn't better than the eighty nine team, but anyways, Michigan

2084
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 5: same thing. Like, their size is overwhelming, the roster flexibility.

2085
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 5: They can play big, they can play small, they can

2086
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 5: shoot it, they guard it. I thought for most of

2087
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 5: the year they were the best team in the country,

2088
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 5: even though a lot of people were saying Arizona. I mean,

2089
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 5: it is a monster game tomorrow, and I think Michigan,

2090
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 5: because of their size, will keep Arizona more out of

2091
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 5: the paint and more off the rim, because that's what

2092
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 5: Arizona's game is just pound you inside, get to the rim,

2093
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:05,839
Speaker 5: offensive rebound. I think Mara and Mares Johnson and Lendeborg,

2094
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 5: those guys will they won't stop them from doing it.

2095
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 5: But Arizona won't be over to overwhelm Michigan like they

2096
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 5: have other teams. So, you know, I'm not saying this

2097
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,560
Speaker 5: because I'm a Big ten employee. Now I guess, but

2098
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,719
Speaker 5: I think I think it's going to be Michigan Illinois

2099
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 5: in the final Wow.

2100
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: And so there's a lot of people going into that

2101
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 2: Michigan Arizona game. They're saying this is the de facto

2102
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 2: National Championship and is basically just throwing Illinois and Yukon

2103
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 2: to the side. Do you believe and you talked of

2104
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 2: Illinois saying that the kind of potential that they have.

2105
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 2: Are you of the opinion that either Michigan or Arizona,

2106
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 2: whoever wins that game, would be and should be favored

2107
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 2: over whoever comes out of Illinois and Yukon one hundred percent?

2108
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. Look, I don't think they're going to

2109
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 5: blow either of those teams out if it gets in

2110
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 5: the National Championship. But I think, you know, Michigan or

2111
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 5: Arizona to me, are clearly the two best teams still alive,

2112
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,879
Speaker 5: and whoever wins that game tomorrow will will be favored

2113
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 5: on Monday. Doesn't mean they're going to win Monday, but

2114
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 5: they for sure will be favored last one for me.

2115
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 2: There don Don McClain, Big Ten analysts for the Big

2116
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 2: Ten Network joining us here on FNA. On FSR, you

2117
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 2: mentioned the Boozers wins earlier, and obviously Cam Boozer AP

2118
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 2: Player of the Year was announced on Friday. And you

2119
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 2: work on a lot of NBA guys, You've covered the

2120
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 2: NBA for a lot of years. What are your thoughts

2121
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 2: on Cam Boozer as an NBA prospect Because a lot

2122
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 2: of people hold it against him that he's not the

2123
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 2: greatest natural athlete, but obviously the guy knows how to play.

2124
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 2: How do you project his game to the next level.

2125
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 5: He's going to have to transform himself a little bit.

2126
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 5: All that stuff he gets in the paint, those back

2127
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 5: downs and all those ball fakes and getting into bodies

2128
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 5: and getting to the free throw line. That stuff doesn't

2129
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 5: happen in the NBA at his size. It just doesn't.

2130
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 5: So he's going to have to think more in I

2131
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 5: Cooper Flagg for three straight summers, and that's all we

2132
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 5: talked about was he was so overwhelming physically that he

2133
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 5: never had to shoot, And so we started talking about, like,

2134
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 5: first of all, your body's going to break down. If

2135
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 5: you're attacking the paint getting to the rim and guys

2136
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 5: are knocking you down all the time, You're going to

2137
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 5: break down. So you need to make it easier on yourself.

2138
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 5: When you're giving you know, a perimeter, look, you got

2139
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 5: to take it. And I think Cameron Boozer will get

2140
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 5: to that. He's not there now, but that's the thing

2141
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,480
Speaker 5: he's never had to be. He's been so physically dominant

2142
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 5: his whole life, even up to this level, that why

2143
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 5: would he go out and shoot threes if he could

2144
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 5: just put it on the deck and bulldoz guys underneath

2145
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 5: the rim and score. But again, that's not going to

2146
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 5: work at the next level. And I hope whoever's guiding

2147
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 5: him and his dad played in the league for a

2148
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 5: long time, so I'm sure they've started to talk about

2149
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 5: that that he's going to have to open up his

2150
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 5: game some and be more perimeter oriented. Then when you

2151
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 5: get mismatches, you take smaller guys down on the block

2152
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 5: and try and punish him like he does now.

2153
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 3: Last one's on along the same lines. We keep hearing

2154
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 3: about there's five six franchise Cornerstone guys in this draft,

2155
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 3: of course Boozer included. But of the rest of them,

2156
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 3: who else would you have concerns about? With DEBONSA. Peterson acuff,

2157
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,600
Speaker 3: who else could you see? Well, I'm not sure how

2158
01:39:57,640 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 3: this is going to work on.

2159
01:39:58,360 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 4: The next level.

2160
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think with Peterson it's obvious what

2161
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,759
Speaker 5: happened during this year and then not playing and playing

2162
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 5: and what was he really hurt? Was he really this

2163
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 5: or that? I think those questions are going to linger

2164
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 5: a little bit. I wouldn't trust it even if I

2165
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 5: interviewed him like they do it at the Chicago Combine,

2166
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 5: and they'll sit down with them and ask him. But

2167
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 5: you know, to me, the proof is in the pudding.

2168
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 5: I'm sure he's probably because he's been around and been

2169
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 5: so highly rated for so long, he's probably a pretty

2170
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 5: good interview and so he'll answer the questions. But I

2171
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 5: don't know if i'd trust that. You know, he's obviously

2172
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 5: a really, really good player. To me, de bants that

2173
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 5: really has separated himself. If I was a GM and

2174
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 5: I had the first pick, I would that's where I

2175
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 5: would be looking because not only did he play every night,

2176
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 5: he was productive every night. He's competitive. He was in

2177
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 5: our gym two summers ago. Competitive guy. And that's what

2178
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 5: you want because these guys are getting paid so much

2179
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 5: money now, whether it's twenty million, thirty million foot whatever

2180
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 5: it is, the competitive guys will still be competitive. They're

2181
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 5: not going to allow the money to change them. Where

2182
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 5: some guys, if they're not overly competitive, get comfortable in

2183
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 5: the lifestyle and the money and all that stuff. But

2184
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 5: so to me, de Bants has kind of separated himself

2185
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 5: in that group.

2186
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,679
Speaker 2: The great Domaklain, leading scorer and UCLA basketball history analyst

2187
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: for the Big Ten Network, the Man John Rothstein says

2188
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 2: he is the most underrated college hoops analyst in the country,

2189
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 2: and I agree, Don, thanks again for taking some time

2190
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 2: to join us. Heero on fie on FSR. We appreciate it. Yeah.

2191
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 5: I don't know if John meant that. I didn't really

2192
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if I was supposed to take that

2193
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 5: as a compliment or not.

2194
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 3: I see it that way. But come on, now, Don

2195
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 3: all right, we love it, Yes, I got you. Don

2196
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 3: McLane should be calling these games.

2197
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:42,799
Speaker 2: He should be calling these games for TVs and CBS

2198
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 2: and whoever else.

2199
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 3: That's why I had to call out Grant Hill. I mean,

2200
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 3: he just stood there. Where was the analysis because he

2201
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 3: was surprised his team was getting beat like that. He

2202
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 3: didn't see it coming.

2203
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 2: Grant is like, how much money did I spend on

2204
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 2: nil for this damn roster for this to happen.

2205
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 3: I think he was about to punch Bill Raftery in

2206
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:03,919
Speaker 3: the row because Bill was talking about onions, babies, onions,

2207
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,560
Speaker 3: and I don't think Grant appreciated that as he was

2208
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 3: watching that Duke meltdown. But Don McLain best of the best,

2209
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 3: and he's a close.

2210
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 2: Personal friend of this yowes he is.

2211
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 3: You can be one if you want to call in

2212
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 3: in a little bit here and talk Final four and

2213
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 3: your brackets. But we do want to remind you for

2214
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:24,160
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01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,280
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01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,080
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2221
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 2: Let's talk some college poops coming up next to Final Four?

2222
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 2: What's what are your thoughts? Do you believe as many

2223
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 2: do that one matchup between with Arizona and Michigan is

2224
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 2: going to be the de factol Championship game? Or are

2225
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 2: you an a lion I fan? I know you guys

2226
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 2: gonna come out in droves in Indianapolis. Coming up on

2227
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,680
Speaker 2: Saturday night is not that far away from Champagne. Do

2228
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 2: you have something to say about that? Or are we

2229
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 2: looking at the de facto National Championship game tomorrow night

2230
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 2: eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Your thoughts on

2231
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,679
Speaker 2: the Final four will have our thoughts as well. Also

2232
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 2: still have Brandon's block coming up as well. You're listening

2233
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Radio.

2234
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 3: Radio okay close to the next round of the tournament.

2235
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:31,800
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2243
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Speaker 3: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox if you'd like

2244
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 3: to get on the air right now. Coming up, we'll

2245
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 3: have Brandon's block in the final segment. But Kevin uh

2246
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 3: I played the sounder there. How do you want to

2247
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 3: do this next round of the tournament, because I'm still

2248
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 3: upset since you know, I'd donated my bracket to Science

2249
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 3: and I picked favorites all the way through, which meant,

2250
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 3: of course I had Duke winning.

2251
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:17,719
Speaker 2: At all a lot from a dummy.

2252
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 3: They were the number one overall.

2253
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:20,719
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that would make you a dummy.

2254
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,719
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're you're a lot of a great company,

2255
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 2: I would say, especially with our Fox Sports Radio bracket,

2256
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 2: a lot of people took Duke.

2257
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 3: Well, not after what Yukon did to him. I'm not

2258
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 3: in a good company now. That's what it takes to

2259
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 3: beat me in Science. Like you know what we always

2260
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 3: used to play here when our bracket went up in flames,

2261
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 3: the old Walking Dead sounder flowers if you know, you

2262
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 3: know it's a little dark, little hard they good season

2263
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 3: four or something like that. Well, I was looking at

2264
01:44:56,800 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 3: the flowers after that shot the logo three that ended

2265
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 3: Duke because Little Boozer for good. There's no ten second violation.

2266
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 3: There was only ten seconds left in the game. You

2267
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 3: don't even have to get it across half court. But

2268
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 3: I will say this, and we asked Don McClain about it.

2269
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 3: John Shire. I saw did you see the side by

2270
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 3: side film of what Shire was doing at the same

2271
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 3: time as it was synced up to the video of

2272
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 3: Little Boozer, he was saying pass it.

2273
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 2: I don't give a damn.

2274
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:28,640
Speaker 3: What he said postgame, Oh you know you got to

2275
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 3: hold it on to the ball. In those situations you

2276
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,719
Speaker 3: were saying pass it too, because there were two Blue

2277
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 3: Devils on the other end of the court, and if

2278
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 3: that pass reaches them with no Yukon Huskies there, the

2279
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 3: game is.

2280
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 2: A game over. Game over easily. I don't necessarily fault

2281
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 2: Boozer for doing it. I just unfortunately heads up play

2282
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 2: on Yukon's part. Defensively, you're having their hands up. You know,

2283
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 2: a better passive been made maybe, but you're talking about

2284
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 2: a freshmen in the most contentious of environments. I mean,

2285
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 2: that's a lot that you're asking the kids to do

2286
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 2: a lot in that situation. It's moving extremely fast. Even

2287
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 2: you said to your point, shy or the coach was

2288
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 2: asking him to pass the ball. So I don't think

2289
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 2: it was a bad play. It just didn't work out

2290
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 2: in their favor.

2291
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 5: It was.

2292
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 2: I had no problem with him atempting to make that pass.

2293
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 3: Half a foot away from them winning the game. And yeah,

2294
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 3: I don't blame the young guy either, a young freshman

2295
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 3: player like that, just like I didn't blame see Web

2296
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 3: back in the day. Okay, if you watched the Fab

2297
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 3: five documentary whatever the ESPN thirty for thirty was on that,

2298
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 3: you can see they highlighted a coach saying cold time out. Now,

2299
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if se Webb actually saw that, but

2300
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 3: somebody was instructing him too. That was on Michigan's sideline

2301
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 3: at the time, and it goes under reported. Yeah, I'm

2302
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 3: not saying he's you know, blameless in the situation. Obviously

2303
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 3: Seawebb took the smoke post game, as in Little Boozer,

2304
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:55,600
Speaker 3: he him it.

2305
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 2: Took maybe too much, like basically said, it showed it

2306
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 2: all pretty much all the blame for the loss, and

2307
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 2: it's like, look, it takes a lot of people to

2308
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 2: blow a nineteen point lead, so not just you.

2309
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 3: And Shier at least pointed that part out that, like,

2310
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 3: it's not one play that loses you the game, even

2311
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 3: though that's the play that's going to be magnified because

2312
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 3: it's an all time comeback. But when you're up by nineteen,

2313
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 3: there's a million different ways you could have closed the door.

2314
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 3: And they didn't win the possession battle. They lost. Each

2315
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 3: of those possessions came back to haunt them in the

2316
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 3: end by them giving up offensive rebounds, too many turnovers

2317
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,799
Speaker 3: more than Yukon in the game. Yeah, there's a million

2318
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 3: way other ways they lost it. But that's what people

2319
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 3: will remember in the end.

2320
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and they could remember because of the historic

2321
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:40,560
Speaker 2: shot that was made. But also, you know, something that

2322
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 2: shouldn't get lost is the fact that this is back

2323
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 2: to back seasons And I brought this up with Don

2324
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 2: two that Duke has blown a huge lead. They led

2325
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 2: by fifteen points in the second early in the second

2326
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 2: half last year against Houston in one of the regional

2327
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 2: semi finals, had a nine point lead with under two

2328
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 2: minutes to go, and they blew that game to Houston. Yeah,

2329
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 2: the Bobm's loss now granted, And and Don brings up

2330
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 2: a good point. These are Duke teams that cycle in

2331
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of super freshmen and transfer guys. They're not

2332
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 2: going to have a lot of experience, so you put

2333
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 2: them in pressure pack situations like this, those sort of

2334
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:14,599
Speaker 2: things can happen. You're prone to collapsing. And I will

2335
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 2: say Duke's losses, three of them this year. And I

2336
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 2: didn't know this, to be honest with you until I

2337
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 2: heard it, but all of their losses this year came

2338
01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 2: with them blowing double digit leads in the second half.

2339
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a trend. It's been a real pattern.

2340
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 3: And that's the other reason I bring up John Shire.

2341
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 3: Some of that is definitely coaching.

2342
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 2: There's a pattern there, right, that's some Doc River stuff.

2343
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 2: I would say, that's a bunch of craft.

2344
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 3: It's not like they were in a series and there

2345
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 3: was a three to one leader or anything, and Doc's

2346
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 3: familiar with that.

2347
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 2: That's a bunch of craft. And y'all know her.

2348
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 3: I didn't want to have to make that parallel to

2349
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 3: the pros and Doc Rivers. But I do think that's

2350
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 3: something to look into when you're evaluating your head coach,

2351
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 3: that how are you losing games? If it's happening in

2352
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 3: the same way over and over again, maybe there's something

2353
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 3: to it.

2354
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 2: And by the way, he's not getting fired. He's been spectacular.

2355
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 2: He's taken over for coach k May deep runs in

2356
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 2: the tournament. It's unfortunate they haven't gotten over the hump.

2357
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:06,959
Speaker 2: But we're not saying, by any stretch of the imagination

2358
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 2: that he is on the hot seat or anything like that.

2359
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 3: But it's not North Carolina. He didn't lose in the

2360
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 3: first two rounds or not make the tournament at all

2361
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 3: three years ago, which is what happened.

2362
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 2: That's the question. So that was another thing we talked

2363
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 2: to Donn about before we get into the final four,

2364
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 2: is like the UNC job and like who else is

2365
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,679
Speaker 2: out there? Tommy Lloyd was their top candidate. He spent

2366
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:29,599
Speaker 2: the entire week dancing around questions, you know, I mean

2367
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 2: he was looking looking like stepping fetching out there, just

2368
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 2: dancing around every single solitary press conference before on Friday afternoon,

2369
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 2: he officially announces that he signs an extension with Arizona,

2370
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 2: and that's because they were willing to pay him more

2371
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 2: than North Carolina probably surprise. That's what it came down to.

2372
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 2: He was negotiating with Arizona all week long, waiting for

2373
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 2: them to hit the number that he was looking for,

2374
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 2: and they finally hit it.

2375
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 3: He basically used North Carolina as leverage, as every college

2376
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 3: coach does eventually at some point as they work their

2377
01:49:58,160 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 3: way up.

2378
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 2: But really outside of Billy Donovan, who's there have been

2379
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 2: some rumors about him and having some dissension with the

2380
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 2: front office Chicago and whether or not they let him

2381
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 2: go after the season. Yeah, I mean, and it makes

2382
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:12,879
Speaker 2: sense and this idea North Carolina has been so insular,

2383
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 2: and don brought this up too, like we got to

2384
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 2: have one of our guys, one of our homegrown guys.

2385
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, one, to Don's point, like none

2386
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 2: of those guys really exist right now, and two, who cares?

2387
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 2: This goes back to like the old football, like we

2388
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 2: need a Michigan man. And it was like, all right,

2389
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 2: John Harball happened to go to Michigan and thankfully you

2390
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 2: were able to get him and he was able to

2391
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 2: get a championship for you, however, tainted with the stealings

2392
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 2: signed stealings to Candle with all that tis.

2393
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 3: Tenure there didn't start off very well.

2394
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 2: He took a pay cut the year before they won

2395
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 2: the national championship. He was on the verge of getting

2396
01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 2: fired and he had to take a massive pay cut

2397
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 2: to remain as the head coach.

2398
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't all roses just because it ended well.

2399
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 2: Kind of this idea are this notion that we have

2400
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 2: to keep it in the family, And it's like, that'd

2401
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 2: be great. If you can create a great coach who

2402
01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 2: has a great lineage with the program and you can

2403
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 2: come in and help you win, then phenomenal, But ultimately

2404
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 2: all you should care about. And by the way, they

2405
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:06,840
Speaker 2: have a new athletic director at North Carolina who has

2406
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,600
Speaker 2: no ties previous ties to the university. He said, I

2407
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,600
Speaker 2: want to bring somebody that's gonna help us win. So

2408
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 2: regardless of where that guy comes from, he doesn't have

2409
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 2: to be a North Carolina alumni.

2410
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 3: Maybe Rashid Wallace would be the pick, though you know

2411
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 3: hard Man, Rashid.

2412
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 2: Is an assistant, so I think he's assistant for Penny

2413
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 2: and at Memphis to the fact, I think he is,

2414
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 2: let me triple check on that, but he's definitely an

2415
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:29,480
Speaker 2: assistant in college basketball.

2416
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 3: And an assistant coach in the NBA for a hot

2417
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 3: minute and then he realized this is not for me.

2418
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 3: Like I swear that would check out. I love Rashid,

2419
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't know if that would be the move.

2420
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:45,799
Speaker 2: He was an assistant with the Pistons from twenty thirteen

2421
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 2: to twenty fourteen. Okay, so he lasted a year or two,

2422
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:50,599
Speaker 2: lasted a year a couple of years. Then he went

2423
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:52,919
Speaker 2: to the high school ranks and he has been an assistant.

2424
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 2: He was an assistant actually, so he's no longer an

2425
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 2: assistant with Penny Hardaway from a twenty twenty one to

2426
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. I don't know.

2427
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 3: If he has the pedigree then it would just be

2428
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 3: reaching back to the pass for a player that has

2429
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 3: some success.

2430
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 2: For you, I would love to see Rashid on the

2431
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 2: side of Oh, it'd be entertaining as hell. And by

2432
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:12,720
Speaker 2: the way, I'm definitely looking forward to that. To the

2433
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 2: Jail Blazer documentary that's going to be on Netflix. I

2434
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 2: think that comes out next week or the week after.

2435
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 3: Is it called The Jail Blazer, Yes, it's called jail.

2436
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,719
Speaker 2: It's untold. There's one part of the untold series. Wow,

2437
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:25,599
Speaker 2: Untold jail Blazers. Okay, they have Rashid Wallace, Bonzie Wells,

2438
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 2: and I believe Damon Stotdemayrare like the three key figures

2439
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 2: at the interview, Mighty mouse, Mighty mouse.

2440
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 3: All right, so our final four, our picks. Now, Kevin's

2441
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 3: looking like he's in better shape than me, even though

2442
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:43,679
Speaker 3: I'm up points wise, whatever this means. I'm at eighty

2443
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 3: four points, he's at eighty one points. But I really

2444
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 3: need Arizona to lose to Michigan because while we both

2445
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 3: had them going to the National Championship game, of course

2446
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 3: I had them losing to Duke. Kevin had them beating Duke.

2447
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 3: So wait, all comes down to that game between us one.

2448
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:08,640
Speaker 2: Show fall, because obviously neither of us are gonna win

2449
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 2: the top overall tournament even if Arizona were to win

2450
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 2: and I got all those points at the end, I believe,

2451
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 2: and I checked this a little bit earlier this week.

2452
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 2: I believe Jason McIntyre has three of the final four teams,

2453
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,719
Speaker 2: which I do not. I have two of the final

2454
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 2: four teams. So AIG and he actually has Arizona winning.

2455
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 6: Uh.

2456
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 2: He had Illinois making it as a three seed from

2457
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:31,719
Speaker 2: the South region, so he had as he had Illinois,

2458
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 2: he had Michigan, and he had Arizona coming out uh

2459
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 2: making it to the final four. So I only had

2460
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 2: two of them.

2461
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 3: The fact that he and Colin cow Herd are both

2462
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 3: above us does not make me feel good like that

2463
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 3: hurts my soul. And Colin Cowherd has he has Michigan winning. Yeah,

2464
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 3: he had Michigan over Florida. So even though Florida gets

2465
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 3: bounced early, he still did well enough to be ahead

2466
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 3: of us. Still in Michigan obviously is still there. I

2467
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 3: need Michigan to win, not for calling Coward's sake, for

2468
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:02,959
Speaker 3: my sake.

2469
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:04,639
Speaker 2: Just for you, for the sake of your ego, well

2470
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,639
Speaker 2: or the sake of science. But you have no attachment

2471
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 2: to this way, Adam, What the hell does the matter?

2472
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 2: Who cares? This is no this is this is the computers,

2473
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 2: This is the Paul deep adesk to throw the spreadsheet

2474
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 2: in there and have the lineups, have it spit out,

2475
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 2: what lineups to put out there?

2476
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 8: For you?

2477
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 2: Well, that didn't even do anything. You did literally nothing

2478
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 2: a formula. Yeah, you clicked one seed, one seed, one seed,

2479
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 2: one seed, one seed. You think higher seed, higher seed,

2480
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 2: higher seat, or lower seed. Every single time?

2481
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 5: That was it.

2482
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 3: Look, Kevin, I had to double check it to make

2483
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 3: sure I did take all higher seeds all the way through.

2484
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 3: I had to check my work. That's not easy.

2485
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 2: That's real, real difficult work there. I'm sure.

2486
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:45,959
Speaker 3: Look, I'm just saying, yes, I will use that excuse

2487
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 3: if I end up losing here, that I just followed

2488
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 3: the plan all along and it wasn't me who lost.

2489
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 3: It was science, and I dedicated my bracket to it.

2490
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 3: And it didn't work out, but it was a cool

2491
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 3: experiment and I didn't need a bunch of burn or

2492
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:03,919
Speaker 3: anything or a protractor to do it. But if Michigan

2493
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:07,160
Speaker 3: ends up beating Arizona, which would keep me ahead of you,

2494
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 3: then I will probably start acting like, oh, yeah, theory,

2495
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 3: my hypothesis, and it worked out in my favor this day.

2496
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2497
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 2: You went back and you looked at all the numbers

2498
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:19,320
Speaker 2: and all the Ken Palm rankings and quad five and

2499
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 2: quad one and quad two wins and all that stuff,

2500
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 2: and crunched all this stuff together and you figured out

2501
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 2: exactly the exact formula and knew who was going to

2502
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,720
Speaker 2: win the championship. You will be doing a victory lap

2503
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 2: right now. If you had three of the final four

2504
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 2: teams in there and your champion was still alive right now, yeah.

2505
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 3: I would be My champion should be alive because what

2506
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 3: happened to Duke was extraordinarily out of the ordinary.

2507
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 2: It was because a guy making a huge shot in

2508
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament is a real outlier.

2509
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 3: No, it's the turnover that led to that shot. Okay, ridiculous.

2510
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 3: And no, I don't believe in either of the Boozer

2511
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:56,080
Speaker 3: brothers in the NBA level. I'm sorry, and Cam is not.

2512
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 3: It is not going to translate. I completely agree with

2513
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 3: what Don McClain said earlier too. I'm sorry. He's julil

2514
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 3: okafor at best, and he's shorter than him. Coach, coming

2515
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:10,440
Speaker 3: up next, this guy is short.

2516
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 2: No, No, he is not. He's not short. He's not small.

2517
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:16,080
Speaker 2: Brandon's block and I have no idea. This is like

2518
01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 2: the thirst three week. Have zero idea where Brandon's block.

2519
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 2: What the content matter is now, I'm looking forward to it.

2520
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 2: So coming up very next or the very next segment,

2521
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 2: final segment of the show, Producer Brandon with whatever is

2522
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 2: on his mind.

2523
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:30,160
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Speaker 2: All right, it is the final segment of the show

2539
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 2: FNA on FSR. So we know what that means. Let's go,

2540
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 2: what is this place? That is a fact. It's Brandon's Block.

2541
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 4: What is up everybody? It is Brandon's Block time and

2542
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 4: I have a conversation to start with you guys about

2543
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 4: a sport that I don't know if we talked about

2544
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 4: quite yet. And it's really yes, and it's actually current

2545
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 4: and in the news. Connor Griffin signed a nine year,

2546
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty million dollars deal with the Pittsburgh

2547
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 4: Pirates before he even had his first professional at bat. Now,

2548
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 4: this guy's considered to be one of the best prospects

2549
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 4: they've seen and scouting in twenty years, up there with

2550
01:57:58,760 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 4: Trout Harper.

2551
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 2: What Yeah, people will call him a Hall of Famer

2552
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 2: before he took a.

2553
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 4: Single exactly, and he did get a hit. He got

2554
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 4: an RBI single, I believe, his first first MLB at

2555
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 4: bat today. And why it's important is this is a trend.

2556
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 4: Colt Emerson from the Seattle Mariners, he also has not

2557
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:19,400
Speaker 4: made his debut. He got ninety five million dollars guaranteed.

2558
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 4: From the player's perspective, it makes a lot of sense

2559
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 4: because you're getting money early and who knows if you'll

2560
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 4: ever reach your potential as a superstar. And for the

2561
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 4: organization's perspective, sure, you're paying him more money in the

2562
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 4: short term. But if Connor Griffin's twenty five, twenty six,

2563
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 4: twenty seven years old and he's a superstar. He could

2564
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 4: be getting paid on the free market thirty plus million year.

2565
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:42,640
Speaker 4: You're only gonna give him fifteen million a year.

2566
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a bargain that this is something that

2567
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 2: a lot of smaller market teams, the Rays have done

2568
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 2: this in the past. So yeah, this is something that's

2569
01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 2: been happening in the past, I'd say six to seven

2570
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 2: years with decent regularity. A guy that you think is

2571
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 2: going to be a franchise cornerstone, you lock him up

2572
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 2: and buy out his arbitration years early on and see

2573
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:01,480
Speaker 2: if you can basically save some money on the back

2574
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 2: end of that deal.

2575
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 3: Now he plays for the Pirates. So is he also

2576
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:07,680
Speaker 3: dating a hot blonde? Is he like dating Sydney Sweeney

2577
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 3: or something?

2578
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 4: He's nineteen, he's already married.

2579
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 3: Is he Mormon?

2580
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:14,560
Speaker 4: What? I don't think he's more than Mormon. I think

2581
01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 4: he's Christian.

2582
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, did you pitch too? Is he white? Tany?

2583
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:19,680
Speaker 4: I like he might be able to play. He's six,

2584
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 4: he might be able to pitch.

2585
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 3: For that money for this type of prospect. I mean,

2586
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 3: I guess they're saying he raised the Jolly Roger, which

2587
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 3: sounds kind of weird. Getting his first hit in RBI double.

2588
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yes he did.

2589
01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:37,240
Speaker 3: That's something that happens at the Pirates Ballpark, which is beautiful.

2590
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 4: I haven't been. I heard it's, you know, one of

2591
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 4: the most beautiful ballparks in the country.

2592
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 3: That's Rob Parker.

2593
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:43,080
Speaker 2: He's been.

2594
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 4: He's been to all of them, to all of them.

2595
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:48,839
Speaker 4: He just went to the most beautiful one, I guess considered.

2596
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 4: It's called now Oracle Park. It used to be at

2597
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 4: and t It was going up.

2598
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 3: Good taste, my man, I like.

2599
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:56,839
Speaker 2: It back to hardball.

2600
01:59:57,480 --> 02:00:00,000
Speaker 4: It's the most beautiful park in in baseball.

2601
02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 3: It's definitive. Yeah, because of mccubby cove, the history, the

2602
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:05,760
Speaker 3: garlic fries.

2603
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've only been Oh sorry, f.

2604
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 3: You, Kevin, just because they lost to the Mets earlier today.

2605
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 3: They had one like three of their last four. They

2606
02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 3: were turning the season around. Buster Posey's gonna figure.

2607
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:20,839
Speaker 4: Sello was learning. He's learning, you know, going from college.

2608
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a huge risk they took, you know, And.

2609
02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 2: The guy tells ken Rose. I was like, yeah, you know,

2610
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 2: these guys, I can't really handle these guys away. I

2611
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:31,080
Speaker 2: used to handle the college kids. You know, they're the

2612
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:31,680
Speaker 2: same age as me.

2613
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:33,960
Speaker 4: You don't say, Adam, you could be an Angels fan.

2614
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly me like us and the dregs. They can't

2615
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:39,640
Speaker 2: even they can't even get the fly.

2616
02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:42,680
Speaker 3: Over, right, sad with the Home Open two straight years. Yeah,

2617
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:45,080
Speaker 3: you guys still can get one over on me because

2618
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:47,080
Speaker 3: you beat the Giants in two thousand and two, even

2619
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:49,640
Speaker 3: though you really just beat Dusty Baker's dumb ass who

2620
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 3: took Russ Ortiz out.

2621
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:52,680
Speaker 4: You know how old I was during that World Series?

2622
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 4: Oh three, this hurts, It hurts. I haven't seen much

2623
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:01,480
Speaker 4: success for them. Let's just say recently.

2624
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:04,720
Speaker 3: You're right, you don't deserve that, Hilfe. You can't actually

2625
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 3: celebrate that. Kevin can't celebrate Raiders Super Bowls because he

2626
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:09,120
Speaker 3: wasn't born that.

2627
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:12,920
Speaker 4: Kevin remembers the Division every year they were a decade,

2628
02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 4: winning the Visions, getting to having the best attendance in baseball,

2629
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:18,920
Speaker 4: best attend Still don't like aj Perzinski No.

2630
02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:21,440
Speaker 2: Five, Yeah, two thousand and five with the White Sox.

2631
02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 4: Every time I see him announce in a game, I

2632
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 4: get mad now.

2633
02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 3: Also, that former Giant who had a cup of coffee

2634
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 3: there for one year didn't work out very well. So

2635
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan. Of aj either Yeah, I mean,

2636
02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:37,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. This is a crazy signing, though I

2637
02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:38,640
Speaker 3: like the bet on him.

2638
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 2: Look if he plays well, and obviously they have skiings

2639
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:44,160
Speaker 2: if they get something going here this year into next year.

2640
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 2: The talk of them trading away Paul Skimes, maybe it

2641
02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:48,640
Speaker 2: doesn't happen now. I don't know if they're going to

2642
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:50,160
Speaker 2: have the amount of money to pay him, you know,

2643
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:52,360
Speaker 2: sixty million dollars a year or whatever the hell he's

2644
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:55,240
Speaker 2: going to be eligible for. It's about however, these salaries

2645
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 2: are going to look six years from now.

2646
02:01:57,080 --> 02:02:00,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll have the salary cap implemented next season. There

2647
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 3: you go, just the floor maybe salary floor for teams

2648
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:06,320
Speaker 3: like the Pirates. I don't know a lot of the

2649
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 3: salary cap situation after paying.

2650
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 4: Them spend money.

2651
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:14,160
Speaker 3: I I don't regards the Dodgers wanting to spend money

2652
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:18,200
Speaker 3: compete with them the rest of you teams please maybe

2653
02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:19,720
Speaker 3: I know it's good for me at a five seventy

2654
02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 3: list exactly.

2655
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:24,960
Speaker 2: Thank thank you, guys, Thank you for listening. Project in

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Speaker 2: al coming up next to here fn A FSR