WEBVTT - "An Insult to the Law"  Leo Terrell Talks to Armstrong & Getty

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd's drug use playing a central role the prosecution, arguing

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd did not die of a drug overdose because he

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<v Speaker 1>built a tolerance struggling with an addiction for years. Prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>also argued Floyd's behavior in the video was not consistent

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<v Speaker 1>with someone overdosing and passing out. Rather, a video show

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd being killed while unarmed in police custody. His size.

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<v Speaker 1>There were five grown, been armed police officers who were

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<v Speaker 1>on the scene over a fake twenty dollar bill. Chauvin's

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<v Speaker 1>defense hit back, saying Chauvin was following his training. Kneeling

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<v Speaker 1>on Floyd's neck. Derek Chauvin did exactly what he had

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<v Speaker 1>been trained to do over the course of his nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>year career. The defense painted Floyd as a criminal drug

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<v Speaker 1>abuser who resisted arrest, saying Floyd took a lethal amount

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<v Speaker 1>of drugs a speedball and fell asleep in his car

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<v Speaker 1>outside of Cup Foods. He did not comply with police

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<v Speaker 1>and ended up on the ground because through former officers

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<v Speaker 1>could not contain him. What was Mr Floyd's actual cause

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<v Speaker 1>of death? The evidence will show that Mr. Floyd died

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<v Speaker 1>of a cardiacorhythmia. Oh boy, so did he die? Basically

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<v Speaker 1>of a drug overdose or did he die because of

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<v Speaker 1>the knee on his neck? Is that the argument? Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that could well be the argument. And let's bring in

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<v Speaker 1>a special guest to discuss that and more. Leo Terrell

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<v Speaker 1>as the civil rights attorney Fox News contributor host of

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast Leo Torrell, America's fair minded civil rights attorney. Leo,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you, sir man? Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine, I just came back from Minneapolis, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad to be on your show to talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>very hard, difficult, unusual and national impact case. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>is that, and I just want to say personally, I've

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciated your commentary on it so far because to

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<v Speaker 1>to try to whip people up on one side or

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<v Speaker 1>the other as opposed to all approaching this as Americans

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure everybody's civil rights are available to them,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's dangerous and it's ugly. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, and let me be very clear, I think

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<v Speaker 1>what the attorney Benjamin Crump did and Alice Sharpie at

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<v Speaker 1>the head yesterday outside the courthouse was an insult to

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<v Speaker 1>the rule of law. This case is being tried inside

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<v Speaker 1>a courtroom, not in the court of public opinion. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>let the facts play out in the courtroom. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think what they did yesterday was an insult. Coupled with

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they announced a civil settlement, they did

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<v Speaker 1>nothing more than try to influence the jury pool. I

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<v Speaker 1>found it disgusting. Is it gonna come down to did

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<v Speaker 1>he die of a drug overdose or was the need

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<v Speaker 1>the cause? Is that really going to be the whole

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. I think that will be a major

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<v Speaker 1>significant factor. And I think the second part will be

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not the use of force was in police policy,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is going to be the battle of the expert.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have a battle of the experts on the

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<v Speaker 1>medical causation and a battle of the expert on police

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<v Speaker 1>tactics and trainee. Those are gonna be the two key

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<v Speaker 1>significant issues that the jury will have to decide. Leah,

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<v Speaker 1>what were your impressions of the opening statements yesterday? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you right now. In my opinion, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecution is very clear they're gonna rely on the

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<v Speaker 1>nine minute video where the defendant officer is kneeling on

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<v Speaker 1>Jorge floyd neck. My suggestion is do not overplay it

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<v Speaker 1>because you will numb the jury. A law Rodney King

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<v Speaker 1>first trial, you overplay, you numb the jury. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that if the prosecution focuses just on that video, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to leave out other significant facts. A law of

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<v Speaker 1>the defense, the defense wants to show the jury the

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<v Speaker 1>totality of everything and how George Floyd was acting prior

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<v Speaker 1>to the kneeling on his neck, and I think as

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<v Speaker 1>a juror, I want to know all the facts. All

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<v Speaker 1>the defense has to do is kid one jury to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I don't see beyond the reasonable doubt. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hang up this jury and you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a mistrial. So I'll tell you right now. Pressure all

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<v Speaker 1>on the prosecution. I also believe they overcharged the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really go into detail on that. Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>think so? Because a second degree murder case charge which

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<v Speaker 1>they have against the officer imply some form of intent.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I'm the prosecutor, I'm I mean, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the defense attorney, I would put the Derrick Chaven on

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<v Speaker 1>the witness stands. I never intended to kill this man,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the second degree murder charge I think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they politically motivated charge to please a certain segment of

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<v Speaker 1>the country, and I think it's overcharging. I think involuntary manslaughter,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get a conviction, you don't overcharge. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the second degree murder charge asked for

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<v Speaker 1>too much of a mental intent on the part of

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<v Speaker 1>this officer to kill George Floyd. I don't believe he

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<v Speaker 1>had the middle intent to kill George Floyd. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can certainly go back to the particulars of the trial, Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd like to in a minute. But Leo, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you mentioned that, we're talking to Leo Terrell,

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights attorney hosted the podcast Leo Torrell, America's fair

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<v Speaker 1>Minded civil rights Attorney. We're pretty concerned that given some

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<v Speaker 1>of the race baiting and the whipping of people up um,

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<v Speaker 1>that if there is an acquittal or even a hung jury,

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<v Speaker 1>American cities are gonna burn. There's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of violence. Is that an unfounded fear or do you agree?

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<v Speaker 1>You're a trillion percent correct? I think regardless of the outcome, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in celebration of a charge of a conviction, a hung jury,

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<v Speaker 1>a mistrial, an acquittal, you're gonna have city Bernie, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a Democratic Cities Burnie, because I know this

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<v Speaker 1>sounds crazy that it seems to me that the allegation

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<v Speaker 1>of racism white supremacy has been utilized to the advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of a particular political party. I don't want to mention

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<v Speaker 1>any party the Democrat and I think it's been played

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<v Speaker 1>up to a point where it's it's thrown out there automatically, automatically,

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<v Speaker 1>and I find it. I find him insulting as a

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<v Speaker 1>self right's attorney. Uh, and I find it uh also

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<v Speaker 1>insulting because and that was the reason why I left

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party. Well, they al Sharpton crowd outside the

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<v Speaker 1>court house yesterday they said this trial is about putting

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<v Speaker 1>the entire American justice system on trial. So of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you make the stakes that big, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're setting a scene for a lot of mayhem. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>hey are they I'm concerned they're not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the the jurors identities secret, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if any of their names get out, they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>fearing for their lives. I'm afraid. I think you're correct.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this jury should have been sequestered. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at what the Shenanigans, Al Sharpton and bankrupt

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<v Speaker 1>did yesterday. How the world are you gonna keep these

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<v Speaker 1>jurors protected from the social media that's out there bombardi

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<v Speaker 1>the entire world on this case. The entire world is

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<v Speaker 1>watching this case, it's being televised, and this jury was

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<v Speaker 1>not sequestered. Shame, Shame on the jury system, on the

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<v Speaker 1>criminal justice system. This jury should have been shielded from

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<v Speaker 1>the Alice Sharptons, from all the court of public opinion

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<v Speaker 1>that's out there that's going to be bombarding them for

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<v Speaker 1>the next six or seven weeks. Leo Terrell is a

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights attorney and host of the podcast Leo Terrell,

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<v Speaker 1>America's fair minded civil rights Attorney. Leo, I hope we

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<v Speaker 1>can stay in touch because we really value people like

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<v Speaker 1>you who actually are trying to protect people's civil rights

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to improve the country as opposed to tearing

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<v Speaker 1>it apart. So great to talk to you, sir, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much. I find an honor to be on

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<v Speaker 1>your program. Please feel free to call me again. We

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<v Speaker 1>will stuff right there.