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Speaker 1: Fish Bides podcast. As always, I'm your host.

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Speaker 2: Arm Leighton, and I am joined by very familiar face

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Speaker 2: Adam McInturff of twenty eighty Baseball, one of our favorite

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Speaker 2: scouting sites to use, one of the best resources, especially

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Speaker 2: after this real Muto trade. I've had you on multiple

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Speaker 2: times in the past and we always go back and

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Speaker 2: forth on prospects, but this might be the most exciting

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Speaker 2: time we've had to go over some prospects.

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Speaker 1: Probably the best system the Marlins have had since.

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Speaker 2: I've had you on, and this is something that slowly

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Speaker 2: has been building up and now they're making their way

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Speaker 2: from the basement of the league into the teams, especially

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Speaker 2: after this trade.

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Speaker 1: So Adam, thank you for being on. I can't thank

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Speaker 1: you enough every time.

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Speaker 2: It's always so exciting to go after could get after

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Speaker 2: it with you and talk about these prospects.

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Speaker 3: Now, it's my pleasure. We know the Marlin's a really

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Speaker 3: fun system, and like you said, this is a really

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Speaker 2: You guys just came out with your assessment of the

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Speaker 2: Marlin system really really in depth, something we've shared on

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Speaker 2: our site and we'll be sure to reshare with this

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Speaker 2: article so fans can check it out. And see all

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Speaker 2: the details that you guys spent a lot of time

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Speaker 2: on the Marlwin system. You told me off the air

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Speaker 2: that the Marlin system is one of the most familiar

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Speaker 2: for you with just the way things have lined up

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Speaker 2: in the past, which is so great to have you

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Speaker 2: on the podcast as always, and after this real Muto

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Speaker 2: trade now it really bolstered their system. I want to

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Speaker 2: get into those three guys that came over, of course,

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Speaker 2: the headliner being six do Sanchez. Alfaro was a former

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Speaker 2: top one hundred prospect. He's still young, he's still putting

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Speaker 2: it together. There's no reason to think that he can't

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Speaker 2: be what a lot of people thought he could be.

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Speaker 2: And of course you've got Stewart, who is a fringe

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Speaker 2: said himself that they thought he was the best left

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Speaker 2: of course with six Dough. We're obviously going to talk

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Speaker 2: to start here. Always six to oh is a really

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Speaker 1: Of course, top thirty and probably every single.

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Speaker 2: Recruiting top one hundred you could ever find of course,

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Speaker 2: you guys have him at the top of the Marlins

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Sisto's an exciting one. You know, there's there's

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Speaker 3: a reason that as an a ball pitcher, he you know,

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Speaker 3: you said, he's moved into the number one spot in

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Speaker 3: but it's pretty advanced, and especially for a power arm

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Speaker 3: So we have him as a role sixty. There aren't

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Speaker 3: think there is some risk that goes along with that ceiling,

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Speaker 3: he's not the tallest guy at six feet despite he's

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Speaker 3: But presuming he's going to go, like you said, this

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Speaker 2: The crazy thing about six oh is he's only twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think he's shorter, but like I said,

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Speaker 3: I think it's more you're withd than not your height

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing that surprised me is that right

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that extreme risk label something in

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Speaker 3: our grading system. Risk is always relative to the ceiling grade.

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Speaker 3: So I think that if you had seen six to zero,

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Speaker 2: And something that possibly might sell a lot of people

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Speaker 3: And I think what separates him from those types of

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Speaker 3: Like end of the day, the better starting pitchers in baseball,

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Speaker 3: And like I said, so, I think it's that control

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Speaker 1: And I want to move on to the next guy.

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Speaker 2: Obviously the guy that's going to replace real Mito behind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they should be. Stewart didn't crack

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Speaker 2: And do you think another guy got asked the question?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and he's a guy that had a really good year,

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Speaker 2: speaking of Mesa, of course I got to get into him.

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Speaker 2: He's probably the most polarizing player we've seen for the

435
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Speaker 2: Marlins in all of these prospect lists. You guys had

436
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Speaker 2: him at you guys have him at actually number five,

437
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Speaker 2: which is about in the middle of everything we've seen

438
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Speaker 2: so far. Like you said off the air with me,

439
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: it's a guy that you guys, no one has seen.

440
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: It's not really whether some people have seen him, some

441
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,360
Speaker 2: people haven't seen as much of him. Really, nobody has

442
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 2: seen him play baseball since about twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen,

443
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Speaker 2: I don't remember when when that World Baseball Classic was

444
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Speaker 2: that he did well. And obviously it's hard to make

445
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Speaker 2: an assessment on a guy that you have not seen

446
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: play much. But based on what you know and of

447
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 2: course with what you've seen and how polarizing he can be.

448
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Speaker 2: Where do you spend on Meson in relation to what

449
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Speaker 2: you've seen from your peers in the prospect analysis world?

450
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think, like you said, kind of has

451
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Speaker 3: a nail on the head. He's a tough one to

452
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Speaker 3: put into a bin. I think in actually it's a

453
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Speaker 3: little bit different because Cacucci is more of a known entity.

454
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Speaker 3: But just these guys that are entering after playing Warren

455
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 3: fashionately overseas, they could be tough kind of place on

456
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Speaker 3: these lists. So he finished fifth for us. I think

457
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Speaker 3: part of the reason why that is is he's more

458
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Speaker 3: of a speed and table setting guy, and I think

459
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Speaker 3: we felt that there were some hit tool guys like

460
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Speaker 3: Isan Diaz that were closer for guys that had a

461
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 3: little bit more potential impact with the power ahead of

462
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Speaker 3: him on the positional side. But I mean he's still

463
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Speaker 3: he grades pretty well, and we see him as a

464
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Speaker 3: guy that can move to the major leagues fairly quickly

465
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Speaker 3: and be a speedy, top of the lineup centerfielder. I

466
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Speaker 3: think that's what the Marlins are hoping for too.

467
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Speaker 2: He mentioned Diaz a guy you have one ahead of him. Obviously,

468
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Speaker 2: Diaz has shown the ability to get on base, He's

469
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Speaker 2: shown the good hit tool, has the good glove. If

470
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Speaker 2: Victor Maso is able to show that kind of you know,

471
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Speaker 2: show the good defense in the outfield, something that a

472
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Speaker 2: lot of people are saying should carry him up the

473
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Speaker 2: ranks pretty quickly, just the fact that he is so

474
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Speaker 2: good defensively, if he's able to.

475
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's yeah.

476
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Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry interject anytime, because I was going to say,

477
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Speaker 2: if he shows the glove and even hits just decently,

478
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Speaker 2: you know something that the Marlins are hoping Brentson can

479
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: do this coming year with his elite glove in the outfield,

480
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: how quick do you think he'll shoot up the rankings

481
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Speaker 2: across the board?

482
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Speaker 3: I think very fast. I think it's worth mentioning that

483
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Speaker 3: once we do get a look at this guy, if

484
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 3: he really comes out in forms, then you're going to

485
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Speaker 3: see Mason moving way up on mid season list, and

486
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Speaker 3: certainly maybe by the end of next year. I mean,

487
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Speaker 3: if he shows he's ready, he might crack the lineup

488
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Speaker 3: in some capacity at some point in twenty nineteen. So

489
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Speaker 3: I think that it's just a position where we haven't

490
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Speaker 3: seen him play, and they'll kind of set his own course.

491
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Speaker 3: And I think that's kind of how we'd rated him,

492
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Speaker 3: and if he shows kind of what you said, then

493
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Speaker 3: we'll be the first ones to move him up. And

494
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Speaker 3: I think it's worth mentioning that we could be a

495
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Speaker 3: little bit low on right now just because of this

496
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Speaker 3: unknown factor.

497
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Speaker 1: And we've been talking about height a lot in this podcast.

498
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Speaker 2: I mean, Victor is listed Victor Victor is listed at

499
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: five foot nine, one sixty five. It's obviously not very big.

500
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Speaker 2: Do you think as an outfielder, is that something that

501
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Speaker 2: matters much? I mean, obviously he's never going to be

502
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Speaker 2: a power guy, but will he be able to carry

503
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Speaker 2: his weight in an outfield position?

504
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, look, like you said, he's he's a

505
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: love led guy. He plays a good center field and

506
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Speaker 3: he's got the speed frankly to be an asset in

507
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Speaker 3: that big outfield in Marlins part. So I think that's

508
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 3: that's certainly a part of his value and that's a

509
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Speaker 3: role that they envisioned him playing.

510
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Speaker 2: And one last thing on MESA, you mentioned he does

511
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Speaker 2: have that glove that'll lead him and you mentioned that

512
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Speaker 2: he could end up getting into.

513
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Speaker 1: The big leagues this year.

514
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Speaker 2: Is that something that would make sense for the Marlins

515
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Speaker 2: you think to get his clock going. I mean, he

516
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: is probably one of the oldest prospects he'll see he'll

517
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: be twenty three by the time the season starts.

518
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Speaker 1: Is that something that the Marlins you think will actually do?

519
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Speaker 2: Obviously you're not in the front office, But would that

520
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: makes sense based on what you've experienced in the past

521
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: with prospects in this situation, Obviously he'd be a big

522
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: poll for the Marwins and fans and to have fans

523
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: come out to the game and see him. But other

524
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Speaker 2: than that, when it makes sense to start his clock

525
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Speaker 2: from what you've seen in the past with prospects like this.

526
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Speaker 3: And it just depends on if he shows he's ready.

527
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Speaker 3: You mentioned Lewis Brinson earlier. I'm sure that plays a

528
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Speaker 3: role too. You know, there's plenty of other young players

529
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Speaker 3: they're trying to work into this outfield mix, but they

530
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Speaker 3: know that best. I mean, I think this is a

531
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Speaker 3: guy he was a priority for them to sign, and

532
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Speaker 3: if he shows he's ready and they feel he's ready,

533
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Speaker 3: then he's gonna get an opportunity.

534
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Speaker 2: And the one other outfield prospect I really want to

535
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Speaker 2: talk about here is Monti Harrison.

536
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: Obviously, another guy that's very polarizing.

537
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: Was in almost every top one hundred list until he

538
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: struck out more than any player in professional baseball last

539
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: year and then went to the Arizona Fall League refined

540
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Speaker 2: his approach.

541
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Speaker 1: As you've noted in your right up of the.

542
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Speaker 2: Marlins and of Harrison cut that massive. The word you

543
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: use was disruptive leg kick out of his approach, which

544
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: is something a lot of people were hoping he would

545
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Speaker 2: do for a while because it was just clearly throwing

546
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Speaker 2: off his timing, just too violent of a swing.

547
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Speaker 1: He cuts it down.

548
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Speaker 2: He hits really well in the Arizona Fall League, barely

549
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: strikes out, strikes out maybe a handful of times. But

550
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: the power was snapped a little bit. Is that something

551
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Speaker 2: that you would be worried about with a guy like Harrison.

552
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's a physical specimen. He's sixty three, two twenty.

553
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: The power will come.

554
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Speaker 3: Back, right, absolutely. I mean I was about to say

555
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: two things are true about the Fall League. Guys are

556
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Speaker 3: tired at the end of the year, and the parks

557
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: are quite large. I mean, these are these spring training

558
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 3: ballparts out there in the Cactus Leader pretty big. He

559
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: showed a lot of development shortenings when taking that leg

560
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Speaker 3: kick out. And you know with the raw power, size, strength,

561
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 3: physicality that he has. Yeah, absolutely, I mean you you

562
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: want to him just thinking contact because he does not

563
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: have to do a lot of large, disruptive, big muscle

564
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 3: movements to generate power. He's got the bat speed, he's

565
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: got the size. So for us, we were very enthused

566
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Speaker 3: to see him show some aptitude and make a mechanical

567
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: change of the plate and then see it pay off

568
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: immediately in his contact.

569
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Speaker 2: And we were talking about guys that could sneak their

570
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Speaker 2: way into the top one hundred.

571
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: He fell out.

572
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: If he has a good couple months, keeps up where

573
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: he was going, like you said, with those tweaks, and

574
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: shows the power the first couple months in the minor leagues,

575
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Speaker 2: it's not a guy you think that will sneak his

576
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Speaker 2: way right back into the top one hundred and potentially

577
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: be a call up this year.

578
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Speaker 3: Well, we have him, we have from this system, we

579
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Speaker 3: have Harrison in our top you know it hasn't come

580
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: out yet, but we have Harrison penciled into the top

581
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Speaker 3: one twenty five range. So I don't think he's dropped

582
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: out of that for us, certainly. I think with him,

583
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Speaker 3: I think that because of guys we're mentioning Mesa, certainly

584
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Speaker 3: Brinson and other young outfield depth options they have too.

585
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: There's no reason to rush MANI, but I think that

586
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: they look at him as a guy with the athleticism

587
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 3: and upside to one day, you know, fill a prominent

588
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 3: role in that lineup. I'm not really sure where it's

589
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: going to be. So I think Lewis Brinson should still

590
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: be quite a valuable big leader despite some of his

591
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: ups and downs at the plate last year. But you know,

592
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: Mani's still in the one twenty five for us, but

593
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: there's no need to push him. In my opinion, I'm

594
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: planning to see him probably either very earliest late this

595
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: season or probably twenty twenty.

596
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Speaker 2: Like you said, there's no rush, especially the guy that's

597
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: finally refining his approach and gaining some confidence in his

598
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: approach and not striking out as much. But an outfield

599
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: eventually of Lewis Brinson, Victor Victor Mason, Monni Harrison in

600
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: two years, is that an outfield you think that could

601
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: be above average in the MLB?

602
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you just put the names out there.

603
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 3: We know what the ceiling is for these guys. So

604
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: I think this is going to be the whole youth

605
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: movement we're going to see in Miami, and we'll see

606
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: how it goes over the next two, three, four years.

607
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: But it's it's exciting to think about what these players

608
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: could be and then lining up names like those in

609
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: the outfield. You know, exciting time for the organization for sure.

610
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: And that's that's the crazy thing is I'm starting to

611
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: look at this prospect list and you're slowly seeing how

612
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: these guys could pencil in in the next couple of

613
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: years into the lineup. Of course, now you go to

614
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: eas and Diaz, who's the number four prospect, and the

615
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: Marlins have no other real second base prospect that's a

616
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: threat to, you know, crack the starting lineup in the

617
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: next few months or at least by the end of

618
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: this year. You have an ETA on Diaz of twenty nineteen,

619
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Speaker 2: which makes sense. I mean, he reached triple A last year.

620
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: Struggled a little bit, but it was only a cup

621
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: of coffee up there. That's another guy that shows to

622
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: that projects to be the future of second base for

623
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: the Marlins. What do you like about Das of course,

624
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: he's shown an incredible ability to get on base a

625
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: solid glove. We talked about that briefly before going into Mesa.

626
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: Is he a guy that is almost I wouldn't of course,

627
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: there's no sure things with prospects in baseball, but is

628
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: his floor almost so high? That you can almost comfortably

629
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: say he will be playing in the big leagues in

630
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: the next year or so.

631
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Speaker 3: I think he's about there. Yeah, I mean to me,

632
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: the thing that makes him such a higher floor guy

633
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: despite being a second basement is that field of hit

634
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: that you mentioned. I think that that's where a lot

635
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: of scouts and a lot of large publications other than

636
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: ours kind of stand on him. He's moved over from shortstop,

637
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: I think now. You know, in years past he played

638
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: a little bit of both, but he's a full time

639
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: second baseman now. But I think he's, you know, gotten

640
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: above average glove there, and when you couple that with

641
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: the on base ability, I think you're looking at the

642
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: chance for a you know, hopefully a two to three

643
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: win player at peak, and that's what they're hoping he

644
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: can be.

645
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Speaker 1: And of course, got to talk about Sandy Alcntara.

646
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: He's another guy we've talked about a bunch of times,

647
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: but I wanted to talk to talk to you about

648
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: him now that he was in the big leagues, had

649
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: an injury, went down, came back and looked like a

650
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: different guy. I thought he looked phenomenal at the end

651
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: of the season when he came back. Yeah, because we

652
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: had we had discussed, and we were on the same

653
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: page with this one. That his first breath of fresh

654
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: area in the big leagues. He looked a little bit

655
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: like a Jose Urania where high velocity, good stuff, but

656
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: he couldn't strike guys out and was almost puzzling. And

657
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: then he goes down, he sorts things out, works on

658
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: the control, and he comes back up and he's striking

659
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: guys out at the rate that most expect him to

660
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: put up. What did you see What was the difference

661
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: for him between those two, those two instances in the

662
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 2: big leagues.

663
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: I think you'd probably have to look a little bit

664
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Speaker 3: further into the numbers for that, because I only watched

665
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: so many big lead appearances for some of these guys

666
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: just I'm in the minor leagues so frequently. But watching

667
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: video of Alcantara at the end of the year right

668
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 3: than when he came up, he was a totally different

669
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: guy and the stuff both breaking both off speed pitches.

670
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: We're getting swings and misses. His fastball was playing at

671
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: the top of the zone the way that we thought

672
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 3: that it could. I think maybe the development of his

673
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: secondaries might have allowed the fastball to keep guys a

674
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: little bit more. Honest. I think that's something that we

675
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: talked about on our previous podcast in the middle of

676
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: last year. But the way he threw, we finished pretty

677
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: high on him. I mean, I think he's going to

678
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: be He's just barely prospect eligible still. I think because

679
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: of the ceiling that we see him having, the proximity

680
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: he has as a guy who's going to step into

681
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: a major league role right away next year, we see

682
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: him as someone in the top one twenty five mix,

683
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: and I see him as a starter. He's said. You know,

684
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: people still say there's some differing opinions on whether he's

685
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: going to move to the pen or not. But I

686
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: see three pitches and I'd give him a chance to

687
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: work as a starter. And if the end of last

688
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: year's any indication, I think that's what the Marlins want

689
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: to do with him too, give him what he showed.

690
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: That's the thing I really like to talk about because

691
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: the probably the most uncertain part of the Marlins future

692
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: is that rotation. My big criticism of criticism on them

693
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: was that they lacked that projectable front end talent. But

694
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: now you have six to zero, you guys labeled Sandy

695
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: as an above average starter, possibly a number three guy.

696
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: Is he one of those guys that you think, if

697
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: he puts that elite stuff together, that he could end

698
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: up maybe sneaking into that number two type of guy

699
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: and exceeding your expectations a little bit.

700
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: He could. I mean, you're not gonna you don't want

701
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: to bet against guys with this type of velocity and

702
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: ability to induce swings and mitches on numerous off speed pitches.

703
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: So I don't want to say no, but you know,

704
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: to us, I just think the trajectory he's been on.

705
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: I think his ceiling in the rotation is a mid

706
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: rotation guy with power stuff.

707
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: And I want to talk about the complete opposite type

708
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: of guys now in the system. So we got Nick

709
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: knightert and Zach Gallen. We'll start with Knighter. He is

710
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: another guy kind of a more a more advanced, further

711
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: along version of Willis Stewart. Like we were talking about a

712
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: guy that people kept saying, okay, like he's getting guys

713
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: out at this level, but let's see if he can

714
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: do it at the next level. And then he did it,

715
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: and then he's like, how about if he does it

716
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: at the next level, and then he did it again.

717
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: So he's shown that he can get guys out at

718
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: almost every level with a fastball that barely touches him

719
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: in nineties. A lot of the time he was sitting

720
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: in the low nineties, and that's kind of where, like

721
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: you mentioned in your right up, he actually prefers to

722
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: sit in the low nineties rather than run it up

723
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 2: and kind of just spot up.

724
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: It's worked for him so far.

725
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: Is that a guy that you think can take that

726
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: low nineties stuff and have some success in the Biggs?

727
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: We absolutely do. I mean, I think that you mentioned

728
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: two guys that we have fairly high on this list.

729
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: I think we're a little bit higher on Gallon maybe

730
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 3: than some Knighter. I think everyone's right about in step

731
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: with each other on I mean, I think the season

732
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: he had last year and the pitch ability he showed

733
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: is impressive. I think a difference between Nider and Will Stewart,

734
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: who you mentioned leading up to him, is, you know,

735
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: Nighter's got the ability to get to that ninety five

736
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: ninety six. He'll throw a four seed fastball that gets there.

737
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: To me, it shows just kind of impressive maturity and

738
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: feel to pitch that he understands that he's more effective

739
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: not just relying on that four seam fastball, but working

740
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: down in the low nineties with movement and switching to

741
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: a two seam grip. His change up is what our

742
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 3: evaluators at saw him last year felt strongly was the

743
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: better of his two off speed pitches. And this type

744
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: of profile kind of you know, average fastball, good change up,

745
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 3: knows how to change speeds and mixed pitches, throw strikes

746
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: that generally is a you know, four or five type ceiling.

747
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 3: But you know, like you mentioned, this guy really breaks

748
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 3: out in the absolute best case scenario. Sometimes it's been

749
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: fit as a mid rotation starter. So what I like

750
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: about Knider quickly is just that he's such a different

751
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: type of pitcher than some harder throwing, risk reward type

752
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: prospects the Marlins have, like Sandy al Kintara or Edward Cabrera,

753
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: Jordan Holloway. You know, they're they're rife with hard throwers

754
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: with control being a question, but I think need balances

755
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: that out. Just the type of pitcher that he is.

756
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: What separates Nider from Gallon here the type of similar

757
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: types of pictures obviously Nider had a little bit more success.

758
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: You have them right butted up against each other as

759
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: number six and seven and the guys on the horizon.

760
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: What's the difference between the two? How do you separate them?

761
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: Because I feel like a lot of people look at

762
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: them as two very similar type of pitching prospects.

763
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: I think they are similar pitching prospects. Nier, I would say,

764
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: a little bit higher ceiling, maybe a little bit better

765
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: chance to pop up and surprise you, is that number

766
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 3: three four type guy and Gallen just closer. I mean,

767
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 3: Gallon's a little a year older. U pitched a level

768
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: higher last year and you could probably already you could

769
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: have gotten a cup of coffee in the big leagues

770
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: that they wanted him to. So I think that's that's

771
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: really the separator for us. It's just kind of their

772
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: ceiling in proximity. But you kind of hit the nail

773
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: on the head. Not that much difference between these guys

774
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 3: and the way they go about their business, and that's

775
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: part of the reason why you saw him rank so

776
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: close on this list.

777
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: Gallen obviously, like you said, he was closer, reached triple

778
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: A and actually pitched pretty well.

779
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: You mentioned he had a.

780
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: Pretty good He thrived you, I guess actually said and

781
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: there I think he did too in his Triple A

782
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: experience last year with twenty five starts three six five

783
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: ERA in the Pacific Coast League. What can you say

784
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: about the Pacific Coast League too? Is is that a

785
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: tougher league to pitch in? Was Gallen being challenged actively

786
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: in comparison to some other leagues that he could have

787
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: been in. Is that three six five ERA in that

788
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: league something that's a little bit harder to carry or

789
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: what's kind of a what's the idea in that league

790
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: for a pitcher?

791
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a lot of different parts just because

792
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 3: it's a Triple A league is dispersed, you know, all

793
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: all over the country, so unlike maybe the California League,

794
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 3: where you have all the teams in that state, the

795
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 3: atmospheric conditions for each stadium vary a little bit more.

796
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: But absolutely there there's some big time hitters parks out

797
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: west in the PCL. So the way that he managed

798
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: contact and the way that Dallen kept right down is impressive.

799
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 3: I mean, he he showed a little bit more than

800
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: I was expecting from him last year, and I saw

801
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: him in college and I thought, you know, he was

802
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: maybe tops a swingman type, maybe a lower end number

803
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: five starter, but probably a long reliever, a type of

804
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: you pitch in a lot of lower leverage roles. And

805
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: he's up his game as as as a pro. I mean,

806
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: he's throwing harder without sacrificing command, and he's coming off

807
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 3: his best season as a pro and my opinion last year,

808
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: and hopefully in the Marlins, hope he rides that to

809
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: compete for rotation roll down.

810
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: The road absolutely, and I know that's something that the

811
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: Marlins are absolutely hoping for. He could potentially be competing

812
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: for a rotation spot this coming year. I think there's

813
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: about seven or eight guys that could be competing for

814
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: a rotation spot. So it's actually a really good thing

815
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: for this young team to have some competition going into

816
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: the spring. I want to talk about some fringe guys

817
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: now too, some guys that could potentially break out.

818
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: You have Brian Miller as one of the notable guys

819
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: on your list.

820
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: He's a speedster, another guy that's kind of surprised a

821
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: lot of people.

822
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: He was drafted relatively high, but.

823
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: Lacked that power, questionable hip tool until he got to

824
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: the minor leagues, started to work his way up and

825
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: started to hit for a really good average, and of

826
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: course he swipes bags as.

827
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: Good as anybody in pro ball.

828
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: Is Brian Miller a type of guy that, of course

829
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: he projects as a role player right now that you

830
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: think could break out into a potential starter's role if

831
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 2: everything works out.

832
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's unreasonable. If you love Brian

833
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 3: Miller type, you can maybe see him as a low

834
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: end regular if you feel he stays in center field.

835
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: But like you said, the calling cards with him, very

836
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: polished hit tool, a defender that can move around the outfield,

837
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: and a lot of speed and that shows up defensively

838
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: and on the basis you can do a lot of things,

839
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: and that's why a lot of people at the very

840
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 3: least pencilman is a fourth outfielder.

841
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 2: And the guy I know personally you're very high on,

842
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: just based on all of the conversations I've had with you.

843
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: Edward Cabrera very young, another twenty year old guy, only

844
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: pitched in single A Greensboro last year. Of course, up

845
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: and down, as any young guy is pretty sporadic. The

846
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: strikeout numbers weren't quite quite there for a guy that

847
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: runs fastball up as high as he does and has

848
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: the stuff that he does. I know you love Edward Cabrera.

849
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: Can you tell me why you love Edward Cabrera and

850
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: why you think he could potentially catapult into the top

851
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: of the Mordewin's prospect list.

852
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think he's a guy if we're

853
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: just looking at guy chance to finish in that top

854
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: prospect range by the time they graduate. We mentioned Braxton

855
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: Garrett off the air. Edward Cabrera is another one you mentioned. Yeah,

856
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: we're pretty high on him. We kind of in his

857
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: breakout year. I think we were able to see him

858
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: earlier than some So we had a feed around in

859
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: South atlant Athlete and that's kind of really where he

860
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 3: showed a lot of his best stuff. So Cabrera, I mean,

861
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: he's as young. It's worth noting he'd be a college

862
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: junior if he were draft eligible this year. And his

863
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 3: fastball with the life he showed on a six to

864
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: four frame up in the high nineties and the swing

865
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: as breaking ball, that's the foundation of a you know,

866
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: number three, number four starter. And there's a long way

867
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: to go with him. I mean, he's the epitome of

868
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 3: a extreme risk, low minors pitcher because this profile there's

869
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: so much variance in how it goes. But he has

870
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: a lot of ingredients and I think that there is

871
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 3: some major leagu value for this guy. We're excited to

872
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 3: see what twenty nineteen has the sore for him.

873
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: You mentioned Braxton Garrett.

874
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: Obviously, he missed the entire season with Tommy John surgery

875
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: right after the draft last year, so we haven't seen

876
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: much of him. He was a first round pick. Of course,

877
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: some Martins are very high on him. We're excited to

878
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: see what he can offer. Is he a guy that

879
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: if he comes out and looks really good first couple

880
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: months of the season, we're talking about guys that might

881
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: be able to crack that top prospect list. Do you

882
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: think he could sneak his way in there if he

883
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: shows a pitch ability for a young lefty at his age.

884
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do, and I wouldn't be surprised if some

885
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: people put him in that top maybe top one fifty,

886
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: top two hundred range right now. I think if we

887
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: built our list out to two hundred, he might rank

888
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 3: there for us as well. It's really just a matter

889
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 3: of health with him. I mean, as the seventh overall

890
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: pick in twenty sixteen, he was on that trajectory and

891
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: pitched very well in full season ball before going down.

892
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 3: So if he just can prove his healthy and show

893
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: similar stuff. You know, he was throwing in instructs. I

894
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 3: saw him during instructs. His arm was worked in free

895
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 3: and easy and presuming that everything's back to where it was, Yeah,

896
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: I think Braxton Jarrett's maybe the most likely guy that

897
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: we've talked about so far to take a jump into

898
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: that part of the list, just based on what he

899
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: showed before the injury.

900
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: Other guy that I think could be pretty probable to

901
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: sneak his way in there and has showed the ability

902
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 2: to pitch another first round high school left handed arm

903
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: that the Marlins took, I believe the year after Trevor Rodgers.

904
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: He got knocked around a decent amount in the minor

905
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: leagues last year, but he also flashed the ability to

906
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: strike guys out. I mean, he had a couple starts

907
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: where he struck out ten.

908
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: Twelve guys, But you don't do by accident.

909
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: Is that a guy that you also think, if he

910
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: can put it together, refine his stuff a little bit,

911
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: could sneak his way into the top of the Marlins

912
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: prospect list eventually turned into a guy the Marlins could

913
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: be excited about when they saw and see what they

914
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: saw on him when they picked him in the first

915
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: round back in twenty seventeen.

916
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rogers has shown flashes of that, and I think

917
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: that you touched on it. I mean it's six foot six,

918
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: left handed frame, throwing in the mid nineties like he does.

919
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: I think for me, when I saw him last year,

920
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: the question was what type of breaking ball was he

921
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: going to have that night? Because there were some nights

922
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: where he showed a true slider with depth, and on

923
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: the nights where he had a breaking ball working and

924
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: was working with three pitches, the change up being a

925
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: little bit ahead of his breaking ball. Actually, for me anyway,

926
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: that's really when he had a lot of success. And

927
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: then there were nights where he didn't really have that

928
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: breaking pitch at all and guys were able to sit

929
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: on his fastball and he's struggled. So he was a

930
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: little bit old for his high school class, but there's

931
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: still time. I mean, it's not like he's an old man.

932
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 3: He's still in his early twenties, and you know, sometimes

933
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: guys with this height they can a little bit longer

934
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: to develop. So we'll see what we got with Trevor Rodgers.

935
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: But whether it's Edward Cabrera, Trevor Rodgers, I've mentioned a

936
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: few times Jordan Holloway, there are a lot of high

937
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: ceiling arms and hard throwing arms in this system, and

938
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 3: you I'd probably throw fourget Guzman on there too. You

939
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 3: don't really know which way it's going to break rotation

940
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: versus bullpen, but the stuff is there to be an

941
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 3: impactful big league piece, and it's good to have these

942
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: guys in a certain quantity because even though it's a

943
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 3: high variance demographic, if some guys go by the wayside,

944
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: you still have enough to get some value out of

945
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: these guys.

946
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

947
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: And one last guy I really want to talk to

948
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: you about because I just thought about him as you

949
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: were talking about some of those guys there. I had

950
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: a flashback to podcast we had probably almost a year ago,

951
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: maybe six eight months ago actually, but we talked about

952
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: Pablo Lopez, but like right before he was coming up,

953
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: when he was really hot in the minor leagues, and

954
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: I was asking you, I'm like, what do you think

955
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: of this Lopez guy you think he can actually do

956
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: anything in the big leagues. Is he actually going to

957
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: make it all the way up? Or is he a

958
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: guy that's just a flash in the pan in the

959
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: minor leagues? And we talked about him, you said, he's

960
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: a guy that you thought could end up making it

961
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: up there he gets up to the big leagues, obviously

962
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: he ends up getting hurt. But he showed an ability

963
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: to get big league hitterers out and he had some

964
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: really really good starts, and he showed that velocity up

965
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: to the mid and high nineties at times. He's coming

966
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: back from injury, of course, but assuming he's totally healthy

967
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 2: and all right, is he a guy that you think

968
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: could actually be a major league arm, a consistent major

969
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: league arm from what you saw in the minor leagues

970
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: and leading And I know you said you don't watch

971
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: a lot of big league ball, but a guy that

972
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: showed he was able to get big league bats out too,

973
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: is that something that's sustainable for him?

974
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do. I mean, I think the performance you

975
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: saw was for real. And he's kind of a guy

976
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: likeneder really, he's a little bit bigger, but a guy

977
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 3: that knows how to pitch, a guy that throws strikes

978
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 3: and has a change up as his primary off speed pitch,

979
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: or at least a prominent part of his arsenal. I

980
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: think that's a similar, similar number four starter profile, and

981
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: Pablo Lopez is another arm that could fit that type

982
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: of role for them in the future.

983
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: So, going in after this trade, you said that you

984
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: were confident that this Marlins trade with Real Muto would

985
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: put them in the top fifteen. Are you still feeling

986
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: that confident with your rankings coming out? Your rankings are

987
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: coming out pretty soon, something that we're definitely going to

988
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: make sure to mention, something that we're all really excited about.

989
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: But going into that, is that something that you think

990
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: the Marlins are really in that top half of the

991
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: major leagues finally in terms of their prospects.

992
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do, And I think maybe it's because we

993
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: fall on the higher end on some of these risk

994
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: reward type of guys, as we like the ceiling they

995
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: have and we're buying on the upside a little bit.

996
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: But certainly after they've added Sicho Sanchez to the top

997
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 3: of the list, I think there's star power at the top.

998
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: There's some close to ready pieces in Alcantara and some

999
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 3: others that are going to graduate fairly soon. And then

1000
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: there's a pretty good amount in the low miners between

1001
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: some international guys, guys from trades, and players they selected

1002
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: in last year's draft. I think it was a strong,

1003
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: high upside draft class.

1004
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1005
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: I think the Marlins has definitely pushed that way out

1006
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: of the twenty one to thirty range anyway, and I

1007
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: think they're definitely in that eleven to twenty range. We'll

1008
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: see if they break, you know, eleven to fifteen. We

1009
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: were about a third of the way through our organizational list,

1010
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: so we haven't lined up all of the clubs yet

1011
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: one through thirty. But when we do release that, I

1012
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: expect Miami to be middle of the pack, but with

1013
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: the arrow definitely going up having all the new players

1014
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: in the system.

1015
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: My big question for you, kind of my final question

1016
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: here too, is obviously you have your top one twenty

1017
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: five coming out. Can you give any little little teaser

1018
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: to how many Marlins guys you think might be on

1019
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: that list? I won't hold it against you if it's

1020
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: not true, all.

1021
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: Right, A hold bit, Yeah, I'll say let's let's let's

1022
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: say three to four. I think right right now, we

1023
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 3: have three for sure, and maybe four sneak in there,

1024
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: so we'll see.

1025
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: Well, that's pretty exciting. I'd like to know who that

1026
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: fourth guy is. So that's something Marlins fans wild like

1027
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,959
Speaker 2: to see too, because I know some fans have gotten

1028
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 2: frustrated with some of the lists. I know, you guys

1029
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: are higher on some of these guys than some other services.

1030
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: So as fangrafts, they've they've ranked some guys higher than

1031
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: most other services in the marrow that.

1032
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: The Marlins have.

1033
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: So three to four guys something Marlins should be very

1034
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: excited about and something we're really excited to see those

1035
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: rankings come out. Obviously, we will be letting that info

1036
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: loose whenever whenever it comes about. And actually, I know

1037
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: I just said I was gonna ask you the last question,

1038
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: but I do have one more question for you, based

1039
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: on your experience in the big leagues. Of course, the

1040
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: Marlins are kind of out of those tradeable assets where

1041
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: they're going to get big time, a big time return

1042
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: on players. So here they are with a middling farm system.

1043
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: Obviously they have the fourth pick and the upcoming draft,

1044
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: but how do the Marlins really make them so into

1045
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 2: a potential contender in a few years. If there's about

1046
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: fourteen farm systems better than them and they don't have

1047
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: as much on field talent as essentially almost every single

1048
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: team in the major leagues right now, is that a

1049
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: reason for concern or the Marlins still far away from

1050
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 2: where they need to be, or is there somewhere along

1051
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,959
Speaker 2: the way where if they draft right the next couple

1052
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: of years and things work out, that they don't need

1053
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: to worry about having a meddling farm system right now.

1054
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you know, I wouldn't say that they

1055
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 3: have a meddling farm system just given the nature of it.

1056
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 3: It's one that is trending up, not trending down. I

1057
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 3: wouldn't get to and I don't I don't really get

1058
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 3: that caught up and where a farm system ranks in

1059
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: the exact number, just kind of the general range. I

1060
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 3: think the general range here is good. The risk that

1061
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: you mentioned that being, you know, a team that doesn't

1062
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: have a lot of assets that are producing wins to

1063
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 3: the major league level right now and doesn't necessarily have

1064
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: a top five in the game farm system. I think

1065
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 3: that's a risk that any rebuilding team takes. I mean,

1066
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: I think the answer to some degree is they have

1067
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: to be patient, and they have to wait, and they

1068
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: have to hope that some of the young players that

1069
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: the plan is to build this nucleus of talent around

1070
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: in years to come to start to matriculate, as hope.

1071
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: I think they certainly can, but stressing patience is important,

1072
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: and this is a full on rebuild, and it's a

1073
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: farm system that's going to keep getting better, like you said,

1074
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: with the fourth overall picking the draft and also subsequently

1075
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 3: a lot of money to spend on the international market.

1076
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: So I think you're looking at they're going to do

1077
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 3: some combination of using those high picks to add to

1078
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: the farm, signing guys like Sergio Romo or those types

1079
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: of veterans to these short term deals and hoping to

1080
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 3: flip them at the deadline for you know, some minor

1081
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: lead value to add to the system, and otherwise they're

1082
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: just gonna wait. They're gonna wait on their horses, and

1083
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: ultimately this rebuild is gonna come down to how much

1084
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: these young players form a core and how success while

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00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 3: they are down the road, And.

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Speaker 1: That's actual an assessment.

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Speaker 2: I hope that's something that a lot of fans can

1088
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: listen to because it's very encouraging, and I think a

1089
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 2: frustrating thing for a lot of Marlins fans has been

1090
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: that they have that take that you have. They understand

1091
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: the process, But then there's that other half of the

1092
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: fans and the rest of Major League Baseball that seems

1093
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: to really just bash the Marlins for what they're doing here.

1094
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Speaker 1: But I think people like you that understand how this

1095
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: all works and.

1096
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: Understand the process of minor league is matriculating into the bigs,

1097
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: that this is how it has to be done, and

1098
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: it's something that it's not. It's refreshing to hear someone

1099
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: like you say that they're doing it the right way

1100
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Speaker 2: and that it's slowly progressing and you're seeing it progress

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Speaker 2: before your eyes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really think. Actually, now I'll speak pretty strongly

1103
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: to this. I think the Marlins, you know, I hear

1104
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 3: from people like yourself and fans of the team that

1105
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: they feel kind of picked on by the media, and

1106
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: maybe maybe they are. And if that's true, I think

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00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: it's just because of the reputation this organization developed in

1108
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 3: you know, decade plus past, just of maybe not doing

1109
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: it the right way and that lost the trust of

1110
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 3: the fan base and Honestly, I think it lost the

1111
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 3: trust of the league, This Derek Jeter group. I think

1112
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: they have paid a lot for other people's mistakes, and

1113
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 3: if people are willing to kind of wipe the slate

1114
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 3: clean and just judge this organization from that point forward,

1115
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: I think that they'd see that there's been a lot

1116
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: of efforts to do things the right way and there's

1117
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: a lot to be excited about. So it could be wrong,

1118
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: and I'm certainly not a Miami resident, don't follow the

1119
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 3: market that much, but I think there's been a lot

1120
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: of positives, and if they're not getting credit for those positives,

1121
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: it's just just the Marlins as an organization developed a reputation.

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00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: But it's worth noting that a lot of the people

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00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: that did those things they're not here anymore. So I

1124
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 3: kind of see it as a new day. I love

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00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 3: the new logo, and I think all signs are turning

1126
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 3: up in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: On my end over here nodding my head, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I could not have said it better myself, of course,

1129
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Speaker 2: before I let you go, Now, when can we roughly

1130
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: expect to see that top one twenty five prospect list?

1131
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: What do we have coming out from twenty eighty that

1132
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: fans should be on the lookout for, whether it pertains

1133
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: to the Marlins or just the rest of the league,

1134
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: and some exciting stuff. I know you guys are producing

1135
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: some exciting content right now as spring training gets started.

1136
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, So at twenty eighty Baseball, you can follow

1137
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 3: us at twenty eighty ball to zero eight zero b

1138
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Speaker 3: alll on Twitter. Throughout February and March, we're going to

1139
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: be dropping our organizational lists, the Marlins list. We actually

1140
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: kicked off our lists on February first with the Marlins.

1141
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 3: That was kind of fun. At the conclusion of those,

1142
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: leading right up the minor league opening day, you can

1143
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: see our top one twenty five. We kind of want

1144
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 3: to try something new. I think a lot of outlets

1145
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 3: historically put those out in the winner, and we're gonna

1146
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: try and put it out right before opening day just

1147
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 3: to shake it up a little bit. We also have

1148
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 3: a ton of twenty nineteen draft stuff that Marlins Marlins

1149
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 3: fans should want to follow because they're going to pick

1150
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: so high in the draft. Nick Filaris and Bird Brander

1151
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: doing great job on the amateur side, so you can

1152
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,959
Speaker 3: find all this and more. Twenty eighty Baseball to zero

1153
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 3: eight zero ball on Twitter. I'm Adam mcinturf and you

1154
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 3: can find me at two zero eight zero Adam.

1155
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: Something I want fans to note too is you guys

1156
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: provide some of the best video of any Scout site,

1157
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: any Scout service I've seen, and that's something that is

1158
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: really worth following twenty eighty ball on Twitter for it.

1159
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: Kind of get your own assessment of these guys.

1160
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: I know a lot of US ego centric baseball fans

1161
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: and writers like to have our own assessments, So twenty

1162
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 2: eighty baseball give me the videos too if you want

1163
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: their assessment plus the videos. They got it for you.

1164
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Speaker 2: But Adam, thank you as always, it's a blast having

1165
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Speaker 2: you on. Of course I'm going to follow up with you.

1166
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Speaker 2: People got to look out for the podcast coming up

1167
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Speaker 2: after we get a couple months into the season. I

1168
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Speaker 2: want to get your assessment on some of the guys

1169
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Speaker 2: you've seen, and I'm always excited to have you on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you again, no my pleasure. Thanks for having me

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Speaker 3: to so