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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's

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Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles, and only

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Speaker 1: the truth lives here, Pack twelve Apostles Apostles. I'm George

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Speaker 1: Rice Stir and he's Ralph Amson, and this is the

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve Apostles, the podcast by Pack twelve fans, four

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Speaker 1: pack twelve fans. At least for now. At least for now,

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Speaker 1: we're still packed twelve fans. Um. But today was packed

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Speaker 1: It was clearly something was amiss, and there were some

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Speaker 1: unwritten rules. Right. You could ask about the conference stuff

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Speaker 1: because you were supposed to, but you couldn't press too

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Speaker 1: hard because in reality, these are just dumb football quote

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Speaker 1: unquote dumb football coaches. They don't know anything about it.

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Speaker 1: All they know is playing football right, right, even though

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Speaker 1: the move was made specifically with them in mind. There

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Speaker 1: all football questions. Um. This was his first real like

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Speaker 1: going to get anything but absolutely gobbledygook from Larry Scott's mouth.

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Speaker 1: So and Rosie and a Pollyanna's view of the conference

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Speaker 1: and everything going on, and and George at least like

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Speaker 1: But when you peel back the layers on some of

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Speaker 1: but but he's out of Michigan, so that's out of

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Speaker 1: the footprint. But it was refreshing to to have um

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Speaker 1: It is refreshing to have somebody who understands recruiting. Kyle

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Speaker 1: your success, yep, and if like uh if meat and

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Speaker 1: potatoes and vegetables, Kyle Whittingham, no sugar, no frosting, recruiting

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Speaker 1: his success, then recruiting of your success. Correct, correct. And

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Speaker 1: you are right about that now. Now, George Clicop did

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Speaker 1: to Rutgers, No, that cannot happen. Bro That that would

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Speaker 1: Like we're one step down right now, and that ship

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Speaker 1: sailed ten years ago, thanks Larry Scott. But the Big

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Speaker 1: twelve even believed, like the Big twelve believes that even

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Speaker 1: without Oklahoma and Texas that they are better. Stop it,

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Speaker 1: stop it. Nobody wants to watch any of your schools

431
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Speaker 1: play football. Really, besides, who's the who's the top football

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Speaker 1: school there? Now? Baylor Oklahoma State. And if if a

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Speaker 1: major college program wants one of your best coaches, they're

434
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Speaker 1: gonna get him. If Alabama wants Stark because technically Texas

435
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Speaker 1: is still part of the Big Twelve, they're gonna get him.

436
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Speaker 1: If USC wants Lincoln Riley, they're gonna get him. Yep.

437
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: It's funny. If somebody really wanted to go after Matt Campbell,

438
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: he's gone. Yep, exactly. Your boy at Cincinnati is only

439
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: gonna be around until Ohio State comes calm like you

440
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: are a secondary conference with secondary resources. Oh dude, dude, dude.

441
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: If if Ryan Day leaves for the NFL, do you

442
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Speaker 1: know how quickly? Uh? What? What? What? What? What's his name?

443
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle? He might leave his He might leave the

444
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: job in the middle of game week to take if

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Speaker 1: they were like, listen, I know you're playing in the

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Speaker 1: m A A C Championship. They're they're in a C right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

447
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: you're there. You're in the a C Championship. Hey, sorry,

448
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: if you want this Ohio State job, you can't coach

449
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: this game. You're like, bro, it's Wednesday. I don't know

450
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Speaker 1: what to tell you. Right. He might leave at halftime

451
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: if they called him and told him that halftime people

452
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Speaker 1: like eight kids. You know, you know you you are

453
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Speaker 1: not away that my loyalty is to set up um

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00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: all right. So if it came out that Ryan Day

455
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Speaker 1: had a mild case of COVID, you'd have Cincinnati's players

456
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: asking Luke Fickle why he has an extra suitcase in

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00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: his office? This wear al right? Next thing of Kalin

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00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: Debor from Washington. Yeah, well, I mean the thing that

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Speaker 1: stuck out to me was when he talked about that

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Speaker 1: he would love the idea of a playoff because he

461
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Speaker 1: came from small school football where he coached in a

462
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Speaker 1: playoff type situation. So that that was the thing that

463
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: stuck out to me the most. I think we're gonna

464
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Speaker 1: have to wait to figure out if he actually knows

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Speaker 1: anything about the team that he's he's gonna coach. He

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00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: did feel like gave the gave a subtle nod to

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Speaker 1: Michael peanis the third is the quarterback? Yeah yeah, he

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Speaker 1: kind of did, which is which would probably. I mean,

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Speaker 1: after Washington fans touted um uh, it's his name, the

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Speaker 1: left hand kid, the legacy kid. Yeah yeah, after they

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Speaker 1: touted here, it was like he's gonna be the savior

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Speaker 1: he should be starting. And then if Michael Pennox Jr.

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Speaker 1: Starts and I think he's got two years of eligibility left, Bro,

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Speaker 1: that would put a monkey wrench in uh in that situation, situation,

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Speaker 1: And I think I was I liked him. I see

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Speaker 1: what he's what he's doing, But this is a multi

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Speaker 1: year rebuild for Washington, you know, like their their roster

478
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: is not of the of the National Championship caliber in

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Speaker 1: terms of blue chip rating. But he's he's got a shot.

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Speaker 1: But I think that he's gonna have to start swinging

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Speaker 1: for defenses and hitting some home runs and recruiting if

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Speaker 1: he really wants to, you know, change this from a

483
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Speaker 1: little engine that could because Washington could be a monster,

484
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Speaker 1: but they gotta get the kids in their state. They

485
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Speaker 1: gotta put a fence around the state and stop letting

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Speaker 1: them escape. And I do like what you what you

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Speaker 1: mentioned of, like it could be a multi year rebuild

488
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: or or Michael Poenix could know the system. He could

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Speaker 1: go out in the first few weeks of this year

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Speaker 1: and he could put some goose bumps on people's arms

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00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: with his play and it could trick people and it

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Speaker 1: would be a trick because they don't have the personnel

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Speaker 1: that they need there yet could trick people into thinking

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Speaker 1: this Washington offense is sexy and then to take it

495
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: till you make a type situation. You get kids committing.

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Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, I want to come play for Kalin

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Speaker 1: de bor. I see what Michael Poenix is doing out there.

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Speaker 1: I see like him using his legs and the athleticism

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Speaker 1: on top of being a pretty damn good quarterback. Like

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Speaker 1: he's out there making plays. That's gotta be Kalin debor

501
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: like instead of just the comfort that Michael Poenix has

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Speaker 1: with the system plus his his athleticism, and you could

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Speaker 1: turn the recruiting around early in this season. You have

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Speaker 1: to look good. Yes, looking good is the most important thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. And when Washington looks good, they recruit. Well. Now, um,

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Speaker 1: what did you think about Carl Durrell Because I've wanted

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Speaker 1: him to be successful, but I don't know about this

508
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Speaker 1: office of coordinator pick and it's scaring the hell out

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Speaker 1: of me. It is scaring the hell out of me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say that of everybody. Well, if you put

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Speaker 1: her Edwards off to the side of everybody, Carl Durrell

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Speaker 1: kind of gave me the most concerned today, just like

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00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: his demeanor just felt like he was hanging out having

514
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: a chat with the media. Like, you know, he did

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Speaker 1: point to the fact that they made a big jump

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Speaker 1: in his third year at u c l A, but like,

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Speaker 1: that's not relevant. It really isn't exactly what's going on

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Speaker 1: at Colorado at UM it's gonna be it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: an interesting go for them because he's might not be

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Speaker 1: making a change of quarterback. No, well, well, well he

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00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: correct but but he talked about that and your boy

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Speaker 1: uh t j j T Shrout, j T Shrout So

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Speaker 1: so j T had been injured and now he's back

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Speaker 1: fully healthy. So he kind of talked about that today

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Speaker 1: about you know, whether it was gonna be a true competition.

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Speaker 1: He was like, and he kind of it kind of

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Speaker 1: sounded like he had that there was a decision already

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Speaker 1: that it was leaning one way or the other. But

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Speaker 1: and it didn't sound like it was leading your boy JT.

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Speaker 1: Shrouds way. But you never know, this could end up

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Speaker 1: a situation like what happened at Utah last year, which

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Speaker 1: is which I did ask Cam Rising about. And here

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Speaker 1: is what Cam Rising when I got a chance to

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Speaker 1: talk to him. What he had to say. We are

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Speaker 1: on with the man with the with the proper football name,

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Speaker 1: cam Rising. Um So, what is this year been like

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Speaker 1: for you? You went in last year, you weren't named

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Speaker 1: the starter, and then you end up the starter and

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Speaker 1: now you are one of the favorites for preseason you know,

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Speaker 1: pactual player of the year. Um. I still my mindset

541
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: hasn't changed. I still feel like I gotta go out

542
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: there and just prove it each and every day with

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00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: without doing that, nothing else not, none of those pieces

544
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: are gonna fall into place. And yeah, that's that's kind

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00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: of my mindset. Yeah. Um, Utah is a very unique place.

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00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: I was out there in in in April on a official,

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00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: unofficial visit with my son, and I noticed how much

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Speaker 1: how close the team was, the camaraderie. Can Can you

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00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 1: talk about the environment that coach whitting Him has been

550
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: able to build there? Yeah? I mean, coach that just

551
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: comes with years of being in the program and really

552
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: knowing knowing what you want your team to be like,

553
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: and and kind of having coaches that really come in

554
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: and fill that role and make sure that they're owning

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Speaker 1: that that formula that coach has laid out because it's

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00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: obviously effective and works, and just yeah, he's he's one

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00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: of the best in the business because of that and

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00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: his ability to leave and the Uh. One of the

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Speaker 1: things I noticed was when I walked through the meeting rooms.

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Speaker 1: You guys have some mantras on the wall, and it's

561
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: so crazy because you can see that in the way

562
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: that you guys play. Is that something that is talked

563
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: about or is it just subconscious because you see it?

564
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: So no, we hit We hit it on the head

565
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: and make sure that that that this is like, this

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Speaker 1: is a formula for what we have to be and

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00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: what we have to do, and and then it just

568
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: comes down to handling the twenty square feet after that

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00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: and making sure that we're applying that to our everyday lives.

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Speaker 1: I remember going into my junior year because I because

571
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I came out in the draft as a junior and

572
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: kind of thinking about that possibility prior to the season,

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Speaker 1: but trying to suppress that and focus on the season.

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Speaker 1: How is that for for you? With dealing with the

575
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: notoriety the potential for the NFL in front of you,

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00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: but then trying to stay laser focused on what's going

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00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: on now, just canceling out that noise and really not

578
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: focus on because at the end of the day, it

579
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter if you don't go out there and

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00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: prove it. So you can talk about this and that,

581
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: but you gotta go out there and put that working

582
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: to make sure that you're able to do whatever and

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00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: hopefully hopefully I can I'm able to I'm gonna be

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00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: able to do that, and just go from there and

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00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: hopefully some of those pieces fall into place. What what

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00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: does success look like for for you and for the team?

587
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: Because last year, you know, you trush Oregon, which is

588
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: my school twice. I was heartbroken. But then you go

589
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: to the Rolls, will put in on on a great performance,

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00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: you end up injured. But like, what what kind of

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00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: what does success this season looked like? I think you

592
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: just you just gotta take it one game at a time,

593
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: and it really comes down to winning football games, because

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00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: that's that's all this business about, and it's based on production,

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00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: and production comes and winning, and yeah, we just gotta

596
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: focus on that one week at a time and one

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00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: day at a time so that word continue to improve

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00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: and getting one percent better each other every day. Well,

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00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: you guys he's Cam rising good luck this this season,

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00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: much success appreciation. So uh yeah, so I thought that

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00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: Cam was honest about his situation and he's he seems

602
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: excited about what is going to happen for them. Um. Now,

603
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: moving along to the next coach that was at Pack

604
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: twelve media day, we had um oh, Jet Jet Fish,

605
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: who was one of two coaches in a suit, except

606
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: for his suit was not like everybody else. He was

607
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: just it felt like business, but like it felt business

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00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: casual like and he had on some tennis shoes with

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00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: his suit. It felt very like on the complete opposite

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Speaker 1: of how Lincoln Riley in the USC kids were dressed

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00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: in full suits, which was kind of weak. But no,

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00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: Jet Fish is like ready at any time for a

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00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: Miami business lunch. He just could throw the he could

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00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: throw the uh the coat over the v neck out

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00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: there in his in his all white Nike dunks or whatever. Um,

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00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: well he had to addle some product kicks today. Oh nice,

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00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: he he is. Um he's an interesting dude, and I

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00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: he pretty firmly like told us what we already knew,

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Speaker 1: which is Jade Delora is gonna be the quarterback and

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00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: why wouldn't he? Oh that was when I went when

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00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: I went down there in April that that that was

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00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: already know. Would you would you call him, because I

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Speaker 1: would call Jaden de Laura the third best with the

624
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: potential to be the second best returning quarterback in the conference.

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00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: So you would put um uh, Dorian Thompson, Robinson and

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00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: cam Rising in front of there my one in two.

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00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: There my one in two with an argument that he

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00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: is could be yea of returners considering that nobody is

629
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: really Yeah, considering that nobody's really returning. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not counting the usc as Oklahoma's quarterback. I'm not

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Speaker 1: counting the a s U has Florida quarterback. I'm not

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00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: counting incarnate word uh or Immaculate Heart or wherever cam

633
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: Ward came from. Because you know, it's it's actually possible.

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00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: Jade Laura's like the sixth best quarterback in the conference.

635
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: But as far as returning quarterbacks, it's two or three.

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Speaker 1: And it would be insane if he wasn't good enough

637
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: to just give it a go right away. Um. But

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00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: what what jet Fish said was you could see the

639
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: offense moving at this point in the off season that

640
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: and that was not a thing that last year. Yeah,

641
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: you didn't know what the offense was gonna look like. Dude,

642
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: it had to be so painful to be in their

643
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: practices last year with their quarterback situation, as they had

644
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: to be like, Bro, what the what the hell are

645
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: we doing? Yeah, and what's cool is I think those

646
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are all still on the roster, So like that

647
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: just goes to show you like they aren't pissed and bailing. Yeah,

648
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: they're They're there because they want to learn. They know

649
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: that they have more to learn, and they want to

650
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: be part of this team and this thing that's being

651
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: built down there. So, um, I don't know. He also,

652
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 1: like Dan Lannon gave gave gave off a salesman vibe.

653
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: But I think he really likes that they picked Arizona

654
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: eleven because all he has to do this year has

655
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: finished better than the eleventh and he buys his way

656
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: into next year being another rung on the ladder year.

657
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: That is crazy. I didn't even think about that, Bro,

658
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: is that he gets automatic credit for b for just

659
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: being okay, Like he doesn't even have to be fantastic.

660
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: If they win five games, that's a win, because they

661
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: really won zero last year. Yeah, I think one one

662
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: technical win and out recruiting Arizona State, albeit a handcuffed

663
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: Arizona State, is considered a year one win. And then

664
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: if you have the media coming in and saying, okay,

665
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: we we think you're better, but we only expect you

666
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: to be eleven behind Arizona State, I think jet Fish

667
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 1: is like, oh my god, I could win three games

668
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: this year. I could win two games and as long

669
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: as one of them is over Arizona State, like in

670
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: the year three and this really is a three year bill,

671
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: like they were down that bad. So if any situation

672
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: that creates more patients for jet Fish to do what

673
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: he's doing, I think just sets them up for a

674
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: really good future. But it's gonna be tough. It's still

675
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna be really tough this year. Yeah, totally agree. Now

676
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: up next, you had David Shaw. He brought Tanner McKee

677
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: and kay you Blue Kelly, whose name is so fun

678
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: to say, um and uh. David Shaw he lost a

679
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: little bit wait and he was walking around with a

680
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: little swagger today. He's feeling real good about his team

681
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: right now, and I think he's feeling real good about

682
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: their recruiting as well. They're getting a big time recruit

683
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: from well it appears from my from my son's high school.

684
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, a defensive lineman. Who who's going to

685
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: be a dog? I have a question after after today

686
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: because I realized, like after David Shaw got done talking,

687
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, Stanford is gonna be

688
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: good this year? How did I get talked into them

689
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: not being good? And then I remember, this is the

690
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: exact same thing that happened last year and the year before.

691
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: Don't fall for it, bro, I told you, don't don't

692
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: fall for it. David Shaw could sell catchup pop sickle

693
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: to a woman in white gloves to steal. And this

694
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: is my question for you. How many times has David

695
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: Shaw been in the absolute most dog of dog houses

696
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: in his own home and left a conversation with his

697
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: wife with her being like, I think we should renew

698
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: our vows because today today got me. Dude. He was like,

699
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: he's not one to oversell quarterbacks, so he didn't go

700
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: overboard on Tanner McKee. He basically just said like he's ready.

701
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: But he talked up the old line and the running

702
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: game and the fact that they had these COVID restrictions

703
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: and the fact that they didn't lose a ton of

704
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: people to that weird fifth year not being the grad

705
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: school thing, that that which is true, that which with

706
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: what which typically happens. Yeah, and then they're recruiting is

707
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: good again, like it has been every year except one.

708
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: And then you had media asking him questions that framed

709
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: him never firing assistance in a good way, like, hey,

710
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how he got those media assists. They

711
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: were like, man, you really love continuity, tell us more

712
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: about that, instead of like, hey, everyone else fires underperforming assistance,

713
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: why don't you. The way they framed it set him

714
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: up to like gush over nuity and the good old days.

715
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: By the time he got done talking, I was like,

716
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: am that's a ten win te yep, Bro, don't fall

717
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: for it, Bro, don't fall for it. Um. Oh my god, yeah,

718
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: you say he could sell a catch up popsicle to

719
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: a woman of white gloves love it. Um. Then you

720
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: had your boy Herm and he brought an offensive lineman

721
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: Ladarius Henderson and Kyle soul solely see that. Let you

722
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: know that. Lets you know um. So that's who we

723
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: brought to back twelve media day. Now, Uh, what did

724
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: you think about what Herm had to say, uh, man,

725
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: so here, here's the thing about putting a microphone in

726
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: front of her. He got a story for everything, and

727
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: he got a philosophy for for the other things that

728
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a story for. Yeah, he sat down,

729
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: he answered some questions, he got left him alone. They

730
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: left Herm alone with five minutes left in his media session. Yes,

731
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: and he only got asked like six questions, and so

732
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: that's frustrating in it of it of itself. But he

733
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: why do you why do you think that is? Because

734
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: he's not going to talk about He's not going to

735
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 1: talk about the stuff any anything that anybody really wants

736
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: to talk about, right right, right, right right um. And

737
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: then there are just some like not a lot in

738
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve, but there are a lot of like

739
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: old timey media people who are very smitten with him

740
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: and and and entertained by him, and so they're not

741
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: going to really push because he's friendly to them and

742
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: he shows everybody respect. And but like, it was just

743
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: frustrating because they let Herm tell a couple of stories

744
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: and then it was one of those things where people

745
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: would tweet out Herm quotes and then you get every

746
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: football coach. Every high school football coach in America retwe

747
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: eating or quote tweeting something HERM said like so true,

748
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: great man, love her, love you coach, Like that's the

749
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: quote tweet on every single HERM thing every single day,

750
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: something about you know, commitment, dedication, and and you know,

751
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: don't do things in the dark that you don't want

752
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: brought to the light. Meanwhile, a su was going through

753
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: very real things. Five assistants are probably gonna get hit

754
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: with a show cause multiple staff members, you know, bailed.

755
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: They can't recruit anyone. The entire situation is a massive disaster.

756
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: And he's not going to talk about that. And so

757
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: when you actually do let him talk about the team,

758
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: he kind of says things that don't make any sense

759
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: at all, but nobody hears those things. Like today, he said,

760
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: everything that was going on with the program last year

761
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: about what assistance were probably gonna get fired or not fired,

762
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: brought the team closer together. It united them as a team.

763
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: And then everybody transferred out. Yeah, everybody transferred out. You

764
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: better rerecruit your players. At the end of the year,

765
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: we have forty seven new guys coming. And it was like, man,

766
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: none of this stuff is can grue it at all,

767
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: but like, but people like to listen to him talk.

768
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: And and here's the thing. Herm is wise and he

769
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: is inspirational and he and I do believe that he's authentic.

770
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: I think that he just caught. I think he got

771
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: screwed over by not being ready for a gig that

772
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: his friend wanted him to have, and and and overestimating

773
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: how quickly he was going to acclimate to that stuff

774
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: and not have people come in and jump into the

775
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: blind spots and completely take over like Antonioppiers did. So

776
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: like I am sympathetic to Herm and the get to

777
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: the players love him that stick around you. But then

778
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: again you'd say, like, man, you have to pay somebody

779
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: to not be coached by Herm. Edwards, Well, now you

780
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: can pay people to leave. You literally did lose all

781
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: his players, but no one said a bad word about him.

782
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: But it's just one of those things where like it's

783
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: just big elephant in the room, Like if you, like,

784
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: if you found your dad's porn collection under his bed

785
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: and then he like the next day was giving you

786
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: a speech about uh, you know, not hiding anything yea,

787
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: and living with integrity and and all that stuff, and

788
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, all this stuff makes a lot of

789
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: sense of my dad's making a lot of sense right now.

790
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: But he has seven copies of House, all right. So

791
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: we we also had um, Washington State, cal and Oregon State.

792
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: Did anything stick out from you for anything that Jake

793
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: Dicker Justin Wilcox or Jonathan Smith said? Okay, So for one,

794
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: Jake Dicker is serious as hell. Like he is. He

795
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: is there, he's he's ready to go. He really put

796
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: himself out there. Is like the practicalist, like the one

797
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: guy that um, it's all gonna be philosophy based. I'm

798
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: hard nosed. I came up the hard way, just like

799
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: my players. You know, I came from small Schools're gonna

800
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: bring that small school mentality. We're gonna call it the

801
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: coup grade. We're gonna run the ship out of the

802
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: ball when appropriate, you know. And he the thing that

803
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 1: stood out is like, let me go on record saying

804
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in cam Ward like nobody asked you

805
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: not to. Of course, you probably really loved the quarterback

806
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: who you took his head coach and made him your

807
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: o C and brought him along like of course, but

808
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: like he he was serious, like, our quarterback's gonna be

809
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: good and we're gonna run the ball, and this is

810
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: our philosophy and this is who we're gonna be. Um

811
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: he's committed. Yeah, I'm ready to run through a brick wall. Um.

812
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: Justin Wilcox, you know us soft spoken. Um. You know

813
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: that he wasn't really pressed on the whole Oregon thing,

814
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: which would be really interesting to hear him talk at

815
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: length about that. Um, but he Oh, do you know what?

816
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: It's crazy when I saw him, he wouldn't extra friendly

817
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: with me today like he normally was. Maybe he's let

818
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: maybe listen to the show, or because you're technically you

819
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: had your name on a letter going to bat for

820
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: him exactly technically, but then everybody wanted you to speak

821
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: on it, and I was like, whoa slow down, That's

822
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: not what I said. That's not what I said. What

823
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: stood out to me is how nonchalantly pro player he is,

824
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: like pro player rights and pro players having a voice,

825
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: Like he's just like, yeah, I'm woke, what of it?

826
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: Like that's like like, but you would never expect it

827
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: from from him, you know, from one of the great

828
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. But he's he's about it he really is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

829
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: but at the same time, like not in any way. Uh,

830
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: he could very much come off as like the lib

831
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: version of your former head coach uh in Jacksonville. Oh god, yes, yes, yes,

832
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: exactly see the Commanders. But like he could, he could,

833
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of has that vibe of like

834
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: if you just wanted to come out and and grandstand

835
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: on some things, he could, but now he's just real

836
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: chill about it, Like now, I think the closer we

837
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: get to be and all about the players, the better off,

838
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: you know. And the one thing about Jonathan Smith that

839
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: stood out to me is he got asked a question

840
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: that was framed that's like, what do you think of

841
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: Chance Nolan's like continuity because they didn't bring a quarterback? Right,

842
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, So like the way he kind of had

843
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: to answer the question was like, hey, say good stuff

844
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: about Chance Nolan. So he did, and then he was like,

845
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: and he couldn't end up our three year starter in

846
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: that continent would be great, And then he hit the

847
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: brakes backpedal to made sure he talked about Tris and

848
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: Jebbia pushing um Chance Nolan because it's not actually settled.

849
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: He realized, like he's out here talking like chance Nolan

850
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: has the job. Yeah, and that's not the case. Yeah,

851
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: And I would be really concerned as an Oregon State

852
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: fan if if that's the direction that he was leaning,

853
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: because they desperately need to elevate in that one area.

854
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: To take that next step, like eight nine wins would

855
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: be huge for them, and they're not gonna get it

856
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: unless they have someone who's gonna go out and throw fords. True,

857
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: very true. Um, and the last two coaches you had,

858
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly and Lincoln Riley, did anything stick out for

859
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: you with them? Uh? You know Chip, Well, he's not

860
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: gonna like, you're not gonna speak out of turn, but

861
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: he's also not going to be a jerk about like. So,

862
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if I just felt like he he

863
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: did a he did everything you would have expected him

864
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: to do of saying like, hey, I'm not going to

865
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: answer those questions and here's why you probably shouldn't ask

866
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: them because we don't actually like even if you even

867
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: if I wanted to answer them, I couldn't yes exactly

868
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: exactly and answer on you shouldn't have asked the question. Yeah,

869
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: So I got a chance to interview Chip Kelly, and

870
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: here's how that went. We are on with coach Chip Kelly. So, uh, coach,

871
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: there is a lot of talk about all sorts of

872
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: things that don't involve football here on at Pack twelve

873
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: maybe a day. How excited are you to actually get

874
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: to real football that open up camp? So, yeah, that's

875
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: what it's all about. You know, and I've said this

876
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: all along, the best part of football is football. You

877
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: know the other stuff, it's necessary and I think it happens,

878
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: and it's kind of what the off season is all about.

879
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: But um, starting next Friday, we'll be back on the

880
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: field with our guys and excited about the opportunity. What

881
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: does success look like this this year for for U

882
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: c l A and for for your squad, Well, it's

883
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: it's doing the daily things that you're supposed to do, UM,

884
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: and improving every day, whether it's academically, athletically, socially, spiritually. Um,

885
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: we got a bunch of kids that have got it

886
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: figured out. Um. We'll play this fall with twenty one

887
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: kids who've already graduated. You know, they've got three degrees. Um,

888
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: they're they're most of them, UM, two are working on

889
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: a second major. The rest of them are in grad school. UM.

890
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: So they're fully taking advantage of of what it's like

891
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: to be a student athlete. UM. In in when it

892
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: comes to the football aspect of things is is we

893
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: finished off the season with three big wins over Colorado,

894
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: SC and Cal, you know, in really resounding fashion, um,

895
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: and then build off of that that from last year,

896
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, and continue to grow. We've added some new

897
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: pieces to the team. UM. But we got our core

898
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: nucleus of guys you know, Dorian back at quarterback, Zach

899
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: Charbonett running back, UM, A bunch of really good offensive

900
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: linemen that are back. UM, our secondaries back intact. We've

901
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: got the guys who played linebacker that played a lot

902
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: of snaps for us that are that are back at linebacker. UM.

903
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: We've got a couple of new face, fresh faces on

904
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: the defensive line, UM that we're excited about and getting

905
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: them implemented into the the guys we currently have. So UM,

906
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: just seeing those guys improve on a daily basis of

907
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: what we're trying to get accomplished. You you're one of

908
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: the coaches that talks a lot about outside of football

909
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: and their character and the like. How important is that

910
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: to uh? When when you're either recruiting a kid or

911
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: developing them into that to their their service component, whether

912
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: it's their their faith and all of that. I think

913
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: it's huge. You know. I think the best players that

914
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to coach at any level, UM

915
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: will run around it in all aspects of their life.

916
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking about Darren Spoils, Zach Hurtz, Damiko Ryan's,

917
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins, Chasing Kelsey. You know, I think they have

918
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: their lives um in in a place where it's about

919
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: their family, their faith, and then football. And I think

920
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: if if you find somebody that that is grounded in

921
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: all aspects of their life, they're probably gonna be successful

922
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: in the football aspect of things. And the the the

923
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: football aspect is obviously very important because as we are

924
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: judged and you guys are judged by wins and losses

925
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: and and and and all of that. But how important

926
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: is it too, because I've heard you talk about it

927
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: about not focusing on you know, two days from now,

928
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: three weeks from now, a month from now. How difficult

929
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: is that too? Like implant into a team. Uh, you know,

930
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: I think it's you live in a world of digital

931
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: world where everything is about outcomes. That's what was the

932
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: score of the game? What was that? But I think

933
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: if you can focus on the process, um, then the

934
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: outcomes will take care of themselves. You know. I think

935
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: we're outcome aware of but we're process oriented. Um. There's

936
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: a huge problem with mental health in this country. UM,

937
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: But I think you can reduce CDY for sending your

938
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: anxiety instead of focusing on the outcome, you just focus

939
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: on the process. And can I put together a really

940
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: good day today? You know? Can I have a really

941
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: good Friday? I'm not worried about where I'm gonna be

942
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: in December and what the championship game is gonna look like.

943
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: Are those are things that I just, UM, we don't

944
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: control that. What we control is what we do on

945
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: a daily basis, And if we can develop those habits, um,

946
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: then our habits will reflect our mission. And I think

947
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: our players, UM, it takes me a little bit wild

948
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: we continue to drip drip drip that kind of fullest

949
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: philosophy UM to them. But I think we've got a

950
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: bunch of players that have really embraced that. And when

951
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: I can sit here and talk about twenty one of

952
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: our kids have already graduated with a year of eligibility

953
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: to go. I think that that proof is in the pudding. Absolutely.

954
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: But before we get you out of here, you have

955
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 1: been one of the innovators and early adopters of sports science.

956
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: Whether it's the the the mills, the shakes after practice,

957
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: the naps, all sorts of what what made you embrace

958
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: that so so early? And how have you seen it

959
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: paid dividends for your teams throughout the years? Well, when

960
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: I became a head coach. You know, college athletics is

961
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: a business. And if if it is a business, as

962
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: the approach I took, then what is our product? Our

963
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: products human beings. So our job is we need to

964
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: develop them the best way that we possibly can. UM.

965
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: And I think it's one of the aspects that people

966
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: missed out on their starting to get around to, is

967
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: the nutritional aspect of what it is. You know, if

968
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna do develop a total person. Um, it's not

969
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: just the X and os and the schemes, you know,

970
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: it's it's how are they fueling, how are they training?

971
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: How are they recovering? Uh, those are things that we

972
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: can control, and I think they're difference makers. UM. When

973
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: it comes to winning games on Saturday, is how do

974
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: we take care of our players during the week, UM,

975
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: from a sleep standpoint, from a hydration standpoint, from a

976
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: nutrition standpoint, and and and adding that aspect to what

977
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: has got nothing to do with are we a spread offense?

978
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: Are we a pro offense? Are we a power I? UM,

979
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: it's about that the guys that are performing are performing

980
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: at their highest ability because we're developing them physically. And

981
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: that's what we talk about on a daily basis with

982
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: our guys. And UM, the key to the whole operation

983
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: is that you need and now recruit kids that want

984
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: to be developed and understand that aspect of things. And

985
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: and we got a bunch of really smart kids that

986
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: have that have bought into that fold and and to

987
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: watch their bodies transformed. We have a tight end right now.

988
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: I think as an NFL kid, Hudson EVERYMOUTHI six seventies

989
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: torn and fifty two pounds. We recruited me was a

990
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: six four pound wide receiver. But he's really that he

991
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: took advantage of everything we have. He's a walk on,

992
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: he's on the scholarship. I think he's gonna be a

993
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: guy that everybody in the legal start talking about right now,

994
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: you know who's the tight end at u c l A.

995
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: But he's developed himself because we've given him the tools

996
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: to develop himself. Listen. That is great and hopefully more

997
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: people embraced that. You guys, he's coach Chip Kelly. Thanks

998
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: for joining us always. So, Ralph, I knew better than

999
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: to ask Chip Kelly about conference realignment and all of that,

1000
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: So I asked him about the nutrition, the science and

1001
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: all of this stuff how he got involved in it,

1002
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: because it was just what what what we talked about.

1003
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: It was gonna be unproductive and unfruitful, and I was

1004
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: gonna be sitting there for five minutes and he was

1005
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: gonna be like, well timidus really and be like, well, alright,

1006
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: cool dude, I'm I'm just ready to get up out

1007
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: of here. Brou So question, Uh, did you get to

1008
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: talk to Chip Kelly about the fact that you guys

1009
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: probably grocery shop in the same places. What are you

1010
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: talking about, Like he goes shopping so that he could

1011
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: feed his kids lobster. You probably run into the U

1012
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: c l A chef at at your local market all

1013
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: the time. Dude. He talked to me paying Kimberly and

1014
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: see salt and all the ante ingredients. I'm u c

1015
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: l A dorm's gotta look like your kitchen. Dude, he

1016
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: talked to me about that, about that and how he

1017
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: got into that, and it made a lot of sense. Bro,

1018
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: It made a lot of sense. And I'm not listening

1019
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: to you guys about that. Um. Yeah, I'm saying you

1020
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: believe in So if if it was a current situation

1021
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: and you were seventeen right now, you're seventeen, and you

1022
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: had Oregon after you, Okay, the strength of their brand

1023
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: over the last twenty years, even more so than when

1024
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: you committed to them back in the day. But you

1025
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: have Chip Kelly come to your house and say like, hey,

1026
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: we just had some tight ends drafted. Uh, and you're

1027
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: gonna get Filet mignon on Tuesday nights. That wouldn't have

1028
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: mattered to me at the time, but it damn sure

1029
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: would matter to me now. I'd be like, listen, you've

1030
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: got one year of eligibility left. Technically, yes, yes, I

1031
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: do technically technically, but I mean I'm pretty useless at

1032
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 1: this point. You would want to go where the food

1033
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: is good, yes, exactly, because I'm not playing it on

1034
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: playing anyway, so you know, I can just be at home, Yes, exactly. Um,

1035
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: the the Lincoln Riley thing today was kind of weird

1036
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: for me because he yeah, and he showed up like

1037
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: overdressed for the occasion, and so did his quarterback, and

1038
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: it it felt weird. Bro It felt weird. Yeah, it

1039
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: felt It felt almost like that they were like big timing.

1040
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: The people are, oh you au peons are in polos

1041
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: and polos. We we don't do that at USC. We

1042
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: are we are, we are, we are bigger brand, we

1043
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: are the we carry ourselves a certain way. Pinky up. Yeah,

1044
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean coming in the dress like they're the class

1045
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: of the conference, right like. And I think that that

1046
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: is him coming in meeting with all the alumni and

1047
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: saying like, all right, we gotta we gotta act like

1048
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: these guys act like we gotta we gotta bring back

1049
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: what it was for them, which you saw you actually

1050
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: saw USC try to do some of that last year

1051
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: after Clay hilton first fire. They're like, hey, we gotta

1052
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: we gotta be more formal in certain you know places.

1053
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: So I think that they've always they've kind of been

1054
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: on a journey to recapture the swag. Lincoln Riley seems

1055
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: to be all about it. Um. The reason I say

1056
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: that I didn't like it is because someone had to

1057
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: ask about Jordan Addison. I think it was Ryan Carchi

1058
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: asking about Jordan Addison and um and and Lincoln Riley's

1059
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: answer wasn't gonna be anything helpful. But like for him

1060
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: to for him to like, he's not telling the truth. Yes,

1061
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm not telling the truth. Like the way that USC

1062
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: acquired players is what George Cleavcov spent the entire time

1063
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: in the opening talking about. We don't want we want

1064
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: n I l to be commiserate with what your actual

1065
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: value of your name, image and likeness is based on

1066
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: the market. We don't want to be buying transfers and

1067
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: high school players. And that's what that is literally what uh,

1068
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley and USC have been doing. Everybody knows it,

1069
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: and his whole thing of like, well, it magically went

1070
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: out there that Jordan Addison was coming to us, you know,

1071
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: and and but that you know that wasn't true. We

1072
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: recruited him from the portal. Well here's the deal. It

1073
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: magically got out there because Adam brennaman former a SU

1074
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: assistant Adam Brennaman, who is from Pennsylvania, knew that Jordan

1075
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: Addison was considering USC while still enrolled at PIT. YEA,

1076
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: So how did he end up at USC when he

1077
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: was still on PIT When Adam Brennaman, who was a

1078
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: college football recruiter last year and is still a presence

1079
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: building a media brand in Arizona right now and is

1080
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania, how do you think he knew that? And

1081
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: last year the school that he was affiliated with magically

1082
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: had a freshman All American end up on USC's roster.

1083
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: Best kept secret and and one of the first schools

1084
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: to actually negotiate to get a quarterbacks commitment. Malachi Nelson,

1085
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: And you've been on this podcast multiple times saying, hey,

1086
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: we have no we have no guarantee that those checks

1087
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: that were promised they're gonna clear not announced today. That

1088
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: wait oh, that is taking official visits yes, oh wait,

1089
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: wait wait wait it's it's an official to Texas and HIM.

1090
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: I thought it was an unofficial or maybe it's unofficial,

1091
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: but either either way, he's not stopping at Texas A

1092
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: and M. He's taking another visit to It's like old

1093
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: MS or something. Yep, I told you, bro because on

1094
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: this podcast repeatedly, as as much as people think that

1095
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: USC stuff that they have this collective, but in all that,

1096
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: it's not like that family. It is not like that

1097
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: at all. And so you got you got players that

1098
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: might have been promised something that well, we'll see, we'll

1099
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: see if it comes through. But like this whole I like,

1100
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just didn't enjoy having to sit

1101
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: through something that we know is not true. And if

1102
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: anybody was looking into it would be able to find

1103
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: out how not true it is. But at the same time,

1104
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure it's illegal. It's just not within

1105
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: the spirit of the rule. People don't want to admit

1106
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: out loud that they like you had you had a

1107
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, You had a quarterbacks coach? George yesterday tweet

1108
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: I have a Power five quarterback looking for a new home.

1109
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: Is willing to go FCS, just wants to start right away.

1110
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: What Yeah, you had a private quarterback coach tweet yesterday

1111
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: that he had a Power five quarterback looking for an

1112
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: FCS school to start right away. He publicly brokered coaches

1113
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: to approach him for a transfer, and it was retweeted

1114
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: by Avery The QB coach by a Quincy Avery. Yeah,

1115
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: by Quincy Avery last night, and so like, you have

1116
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: this stuff going on publicly and we're gonna act like

1117
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't go on. I had been approached, You have

1118
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: been approached on my aid. Do you know X school

1119
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: has any spots for my kid? It's like, we know

1120
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: it's had opening, and so like for Lincoln Riley to

1121
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: have to sit up there and pretend like no, we

1122
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: he hit the portal and we you know, we didn't

1123
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: know Caleb Williams. We we didn't know Jordan exactly, bro exactly. Um,

1124
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: all right, The last two things that we have up

1125
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: here is my interview with Oregon new head coach Mr

1126
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: Dan Landing. Coach Landing, this is your first Pack twelve

1127
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: media day. You spent some time at SEC media day.

1128
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: What's what's the biggest difference in being in that coordinator

1129
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: role at a media day versus being the head man? Yeah, George,

1130
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things. I mean, ultimately, I didn't

1131
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time watching media day before as

1132
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: an assistant, right you you check it for headlines to

1133
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: make sure there's anything you need to be able to

1134
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: touch base on with from a recruiting standpoint. But now

1135
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: it's been a fun experience. I got to write down

1136
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: here with Alex forsythe who's done it before, so he

1137
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: was able to coach me up and kind of give

1138
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: me the ropes. Yeah, from the from the veteran player.

1139
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: That's right. So, uh, As you've been kind of navigating

1140
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: this landscape between being a coordinator to being a a

1141
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: head coach, what's kind of been the biggest adjustment because

1142
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: it seems like as a coordinator you're so hands on

1143
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: with the with the actual game planning. So what's the

1144
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: difference now? You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna still leaning

1145
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: on my experience on the defense. That's something I want

1146
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: to be involved with. But I want to be on

1147
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. I hired coaches I trust

1148
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: to do a job. I gotta do a great job

1149
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: of illustrating that vision, you know, for me and what

1150
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to look like. But I'm gonna be in meetings,

1151
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: I wanna be out there on the field coaching. I'm

1152
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna be involved in a day out in our approach

1153
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: what we do because that's really important and and ultimately

1154
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: I feel like you gotta lean in on your expertise, So, uh, defensively,

1155
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: I'll get to certainly have a say in what we're doing,

1156
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna let our coaches coach on Saturday

1157
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: and go go to work. Yeah, so you've obviously walked

1158
01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: into a very unique situation situation. Now there's ofference, real

1159
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: realignment talk and in I hell like you, you've been

1160
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,479
Speaker 1: hit with things that most first year head coaches don't

1161
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: have to deal with. So how is that like not

1162
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: navigating the relationships with recruiting versus whether N I L

1163
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: talks have to happen? What what's that been like? You know,

1164
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: it's certainly different. But the thing I tell everyone is

1165
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: he has the first year at coach. I'm dealing with it,

1166
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: but it's not that different from being a fifteen year

1167
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: head coach or it's one of your head coach, because

1168
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: it's all brand new to them all. That's right. So

1169
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: we're we're dealing with some stuff that certainly has never

1170
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: happened in college football, and I'm glad that I get

1171
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: to experience it now rather than fifteen years from now.

1172
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: So how important is it to have when when coaches

1173
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: talk about support from the university support, what does that Actually,

1174
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,959
Speaker 1: what does that term mean when coaches say it? Yeah, Ultimately,

1175
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: I think it starts with alignment, you know, all the

1176
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: way from President Shields and or athletic Director Rob Mullins,

1177
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: all the way to the fans and everyone's sharing that

1178
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: same goal and vision of we want to be a

1179
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: university that competes for championships and there's certain things that

1180
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: are required to do that. And uh, luckily for us,

1181
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: we've always been on the cutting edge, you know, thanks

1182
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: to some great donors that care about our program, but

1183
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: also thanks to just a great support of fans and

1184
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: good players. Yeah, the the Duck fan base is a

1185
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: great one. And when you think about what has like

1186
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: where you where you came from an sec where it's

1187
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: football is religion to a lot of people. To be

1188
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: at a school that that has that, how important is

1189
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: that the in terms of the fan base and the

1190
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: and the crowd and all of that that you're anticipating.

1191
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: You know, I think all that atmosphere contributes to the

1192
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: success of our guys on the field, um, and then

1193
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: also our success in recruiting. You know, people want to

1194
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: be a part of something big and Oregon football football

1195
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: is certainly big. And and the credit that goes to

1196
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: the fans that exists in Oudson. I've never experienced it

1197
01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: outside of you know, the spring game, which was an

1198
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: some event. Um, but I'm really excited to see that

1199
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: place packed. And uh, you're going to go go back

1200
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: into your old stumping, stomping grounds, back to Georgia and

1201
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: what is they're calling a neutral site game where there's

1202
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: nothing neutral about it? Um? How exciting is it going

1203
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: to be to to a face Kirby and some of

1204
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 1: the other guys that are still on staff and knowing

1205
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: that just a year ago that that you were on

1206
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: the other team. Yeah, I mean obviously have the utmost

1207
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: respect for coach Smart and wouldn't be here if it

1208
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: wasn't for him. It's a great mentor and friend. But yeah,

1209
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm excited to go compete. You know, you want to

1210
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: go play against the best, and they're wearing the crown

1211
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: right now, right, so we get an opportunity to see

1212
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: where we're at really early and and assess ourselves all right,

1213
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: final final thing for you, um we the Oregon football

1214
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: family has dealt with a very tough time and in

1215
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: the last week and a half, with the loss of

1216
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: Spencer Web, how how's the team doing? And and and

1217
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: for people out there, what what can they do to

1218
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: support the Web family or support you know, the team

1219
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: through this process. Yeah, great question. You know. Ultimately, UM,

1220
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: it's tough. You don't just solve it. And I think

1221
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: I told our players this. It's you can sit here

1222
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: and say it's okay, but it's not okay. And uh,

1223
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 1: you have to you have to be opened about it.

1224
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: You have to open up the Florida where your players

1225
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 1: can talk about it. And then for us, ultimately, we

1226
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: want to do a great job of honoring Spencer and

1227
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: the way we play. We never wanted to be far

1228
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: from our memory. We have a couple of things we're

1229
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: doing as a program to remember him, whether it be

1230
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: the way we finish off summer workouts climb and Spencer's butte,

1231
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: or how we start every meeting. Um. But ultimately, as

1232
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: a fan, the biggest way you can contribute is you know,

1233
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 1: they're starting a scholarship fund there at the Christian Brothers

1234
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:39,560
Speaker 1: where he went to high school. I think that's a

1235
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: really big place where people can give back. Uh. And

1236
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: I think you know you'll be seeing more information from

1237
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 1: on that from his brother and uh, this family here

1238
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: soon all right, cool coach Landing, thanks for Jorinda, George

1239
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Ralph Dan was high energy exactly like you

1240
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: said you like like you confirmed he was. It was

1241
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: pretty cool to hear. Uh. And then the last thing,

1242
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: and this is probably the most important thing, this was

1243
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 1: Yogi roth and this interview with Spectacularies new book coming out.

1244
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna be excited to hear this. We're

1245
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: on with Yogi Roth pack twelve networks. You can hear

1246
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: him broadcasting the games and doing um what would you

1247
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,560
Speaker 1: call him ti tid bits with the universities and and

1248
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: some some of that programming. So thank thanks for coming on, Yogi. Dude.

1249
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: I just have so many great memories for you and

1250
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: I back in the day at yeah old radio days.

1251
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: That was crazy because so many of the people from

1252
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: there have gone on to do different things and it

1253
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: was like a like a hodge podge of people day.

1254
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: We didn't expect to be working together. And now I

1255
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: gotta say, though, you were were so cool with me

1256
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 1: right like coming in like I do. You forever your legend,

1257
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: but I just always remember that, like you're always just cool,

1258
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: like made me feel at home from day one I

1259
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: walked in. You're like, hey, what's up man? Yeah, And

1260
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: I just appreciate that. Man, that's good seem It's funny

1261
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: because for for me, that sort of thing didn't really

1262
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: come like, it wasn't thought about. It was just something

1263
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: like that, like the way I was raised and stuff

1264
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: like that, and your and your energy. And I remember

1265
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: when you were doing the the documentary with Your with

1266
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: your Dad where you guys were traveling around and I

1267
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: just looked at that and I was like, damn, I

1268
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: would love to do something like that with with with

1269
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: my dad. How are things there? He's good. My dad

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01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: was just out here, so he tells me, and the

1271
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: film was felt life in a walk where he was

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01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: diagnosed with prospect cancer, and I was like, oh my god,

1273
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: I need to learn more. Now here you are as

1274
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: a dad with older kids, and you're like, what do

1275
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 1: they know about me? What do I want to share

1276
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: with them? They have questions? So it's just been a

1277
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: cool nudge for dialogue. And it's still people still ask

1278
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: me about it, so it's had some impact. So you

1279
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 1: you have like obviously covered the pack twell for a

1280
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: very long time, but you're also doing some other things

1281
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: outside of it. How has that transition been really so

1282
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: from covering games, so now you've just written a book

1283
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: about five star quarterbacks. I love it, you know. To me,

1284
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: everything goes through a siphon of how can I seek

1285
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: and cover humanity in sports all over the world, all

1286
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 1: over the back twelve, especially in college football, Like, it's

1287
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 1: all about that, covering that human So I wrote this book,

1288
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: five Star Quarterback that just came out to really unearthed

1289
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: and show people that all these quarterbacks are human. Right,

1290
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: you're in recruiting, you were recruited. All of a sudden

1291
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: a label gets stuck on you. It's gonna happen to

1292
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: your son. He's gonna be a five star player, per se,

1293
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: or a two star player if people are gonna define him.

1294
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: And what I've recognized in now twenty fox years in

1295
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 1: this league around this position is all these guys get defined.

1296
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: Like Marcus was a three star guy, Marcus Mariota, he

1297
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: was to find as a certain guy bo Nicks five

1298
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: star player to fight a guy, Right, when you're the

1299
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: five star guy, you you very rarely live up to it.

1300
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: So I decided I wanted to create a book along

1301
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: with my friend Joey Roberts, and so we need to

1302
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: create a book at the Tribe of mentors for these

1303
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and other positions were getting recruited and their parents.

1304
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: Oh my, the the parents need more, uh need this

1305
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: more than the actual kids because being a quarterback dad,

1306
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: and understand because there there's some stress involved with it.

1307
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stress for the the families because

1308
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: you do training, you you you want to make sure

1309
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: you're lining them up in the right way. Sometimes parents

1310
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: want them to play as a freshman. They transferring all

1311
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 1: over the place. What what's the biggest lesson that you

1312
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: would kind of give to parents about quarterbacking and or

1313
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: or if they're trying to you know, I want to

1314
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: make a five star. Well, the final nudge for me

1315
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: to write this book and a parent call me and

1316
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: say pay my sins in fifth grade and he's got it.

1317
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: So we're thinking about hiring a personal quarterback coach, just

1318
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: going all in on football. And I said, hey, mom

1319
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 1: and dad, you gotta listen to me. I know he's awesome,

1320
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 1: but he number one hasn't hit he puberty. Number two.

1321
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 1: You both are five ten mac right like mom's at

1322
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: five ten dads three. He can play at that size,

1323
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: but he needs to have fun and you're gonna burn

1324
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: him out. So we asked fifty four quarterbacks who've been

1325
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: through this process throughout this book, did you play multi sports?

1326
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: Majority said yes, or that's their biggest regret, I'm not

1327
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: continuing to play basketball, baseball, whatever it is. We often

1328
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: also tell them, like to mom and dad. Every there's

1329
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: a chapter it's called Dear Mom and Dad, and it's

1330
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: the players giving advice to their parents looking back on

1331
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: their lives. And then when you have t J. Stroud's

1332
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: mom Kimberly, Bryce Yany's dad Craig, and Christian McCaffrey's mom

1333
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: Lisa write letters of advice to parents of like, hey,

1334
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: it's not about you, Hey, check in on your kids

1335
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: mental health. Hey ask him real questions versus about his

1336
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: life versus the game. Like there's a lot of insights.

1337
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: They're coming from sons and coming from parents, because you're right,

1338
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: you can't google how to be If I start parents,

1339
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: there's nothing now. So I hope this book can fill

1340
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: that boy a little bit. And talking to Craig Craig Young,

1341
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: who's such a good, good dude, I got I got

1342
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: got a chance to meet him with working out with

1343
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: Taylor Kelly and and Jade Rashada's dad and uh Nikolai

1344
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: m Alba's that like, it's just crazy, and so many

1345
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 1: other days in the process too, that are at varying

1346
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: levels of the recruitment. And for me, I've just taken

1347
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: like lessons from from them and seeing things that they've

1348
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: done that I thought what I would do differently, or

1349
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: things that they've clearly done done right, and things that

1350
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: they've shared with me privately that they would not do again.

1351
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: It's just a crazy process. And but now going on

1352
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: to the fact wealth, which which is the conferences that

1353
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: as you've covered, there's a lot of instability if you

1354
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: if you will, or question marks surrounding it. What does

1355
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: what are? What are things for you and other people

1356
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: who are specifically covering the conference? What's life like for

1357
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: you right now? Well, the first couple of days when

1358
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: that hit, I was interviewing Craig Young and Kimberly Stout

1359
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: in front of the parents at eleven about what we

1360
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: just talked about, and my phone is exploding and I'm like,

1361
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: are my kids okay? You know? My wife okay? And

1362
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 1: then I checked like it's all league okay. Right In

1363
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: the first five days, for me, we're like a lot

1364
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:31,480
Speaker 1: of us in this league. You're scared, you're pissed, you're frustrated,

1365
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: and you're angry. You don't know what's next, you're uncertain.

1366
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: But then after the weekend and talking to a lot

1367
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: of people, I'm like, we're gonna be okay, Like we're

1368
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: gonna emerge. Ten teams are gonna cliff football. Every team

1369
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: is gonna run to another league. And the reality is

1370
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: things are changing in college football. So for me, I

1371
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,839
Speaker 1: looked at and said, our A d s feel united.

1372
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: Our commissioners incredible as a leader in terms of seeing

1373
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: the future, understanding the media rights, and we also on

1374
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: the reality of some of those media rights, whether it's

1375
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: the big tan of the SEC in schools may or

1376
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 1: may not have to make decisions on their future. But

1377
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: I feel actually strong about where we sit right now

1378
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: because the thing that hasn't changed the amount of guys

1379
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: going to the league. Three of players get drafted. There's

1380
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: a lot of kids that don't. This book details a

1381
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: lot of those guys transferred out of five star quarterbacks

1382
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: and they're eighteen transferred twice most guys don't make it

1383
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: four ten. We're drafted in the first round. So what

1384
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: do you have. You gotta degree, you gotta a college experience.

1385
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: So I'm okay. You know, I don't know what's gonna

1386
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: happen next, but I'm not gonna stress about it. Man. Yeah,

1387
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Final final thing for Yogi. Now, as

1388
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 1: we look at the at the the landscape going forward

1389
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: in college football, are you encouraged by by the by

1390
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: the state of the actual game and the game play

1391
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 1: and the excitement surrounding college football despite attendance ratings going

1392
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 1: down for the last seven years and the tele as

1393
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: your ratings in some places. Yes, and no. I'm so

1394
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: encouraged by meeting the players under the helm. It's generation

1395
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: of kids are awesome. You know you have them in

1396
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: your home. I'm so encouraged by that, and how curious

1397
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: they are, how competitive they are, how they want to

1398
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: develop the teams, whether it's a Colorado twelve picked in

1399
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: this league or Utah in came rising who I think

1400
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 1: should nothing New York City for the higher trophy. So

1401
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm encouraged by that. I'm not encouraged if you know

1402
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: the powers that they say it's okay to transfer every

1403
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: year in collegeball. I'm not encouraged by one year. Yeah

1404
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 1: you get one Mulligan only four years. I'm not encouraged

1405
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: by all these leagues gulping up teams because I don't

1406
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: think it's it's gonna be fun to watch SC play

1407
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Is it gonna be awesome for for dude

1408
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 1: to come out to l A. Is it gonna be

1409
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,560
Speaker 1: great for the other Olympic sports? Maybe maybe not. I

1410
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: don't know, But I just think why we love college

1411
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 1: football is the pageantry, and I see that eroding a

1412
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: little bit outside of be You know what, what did

1413
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: Calvert sake that we got a big game problem in

1414
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: college football? Get? Yeah, I agree with that, you know,

1415
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: but I call a lot of games that aren't in

1416
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: Michigan Ohio State and they're freaking awesome. Yeah they are.

1417
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: So I answered that both ways. So Ralph, that Yogi

1418
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: rough thing to me was big because he didn't. First

1419
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: of all, I was just chit chatting with him, and

1420
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, hold on, hold on, hold on,

1421
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: Like let's talk about this book, bro, Like that I

1422
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: need to get you for interview just so we can

1423
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: talk about the book. And um, and I thought it

1424
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: was pretty damn cool. How he like, I wanted to

1425
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: talk about the five star quarterbacks and the other kids

1426
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: that got other rankings and how it follows them around

1427
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: and their families. And so anybody who's thinking about being

1428
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback dad or you may be a quarterback dad,

1429
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: read this book. I just ordered it off Amazon today

1430
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to read it. Yeah, what do

1431
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: you I'm I'm I'm excited about the interview and I'm

1432
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: curious though, as uh to how you feel about what

1433
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: He tweeted right before packed to a media day, right

1434
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,959
Speaker 1: before it started, that this is the best QB conference

1435
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: in mm hmm you think So? It struck me as like, oh,

1436
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: that's just Yogi being Yogi, And then I started to

1437
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:27,759
Speaker 1: think about it. I started to think about it if dude,

1438
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: if it's there's gonna be some what ifs in here, right, Okay,

1439
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: Michael Peenix was one of the most exciting players in

1440
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:40,839
Speaker 1: the country. Did he beat Ohio State? Yes? No? Waituh

1441
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: it may have been Ohio State the one where he

1442
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: dove in the corner and he got hurt yea or yeah,

1443
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: or maybe they lost that game at his triple overtime

1444
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: or something like that. But when he was playing at

1445
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: that level, people were talking talking about him for the Heisman, right,

1446
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: So he's in the conference. You have a record setting

1447
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: quarterback in cam Ward at Washington State, so he's there.

1448
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: You have a possible third year starter for an offensive

1449
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: genius at Oregon State. You have to five star quarterbacks

1450
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: competing with a flat four star quarterback to see who's

1451
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: gonna play at Oregon. Uh, the the cal and Arizona

1452
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: situations are iffy, but you know that Jaden dolora Is

1453
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 1: is something big, and then you have Caleb Williams and

1454
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: then you have Dorian Thomas and Robinson cam Rising Like

1455
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: you can throw Colorado out obviously. But I was thinking

1456
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: about it and I was like, one through ten, one

1457
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: through ten for sure. Yeah, yeah, any other conference this year?

1458
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think that that's very reasonable, dude, very

1459
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: very reasonable for for what we're gonna get out of

1460
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: this conference this year. And um yeah, so you guys,

1461
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: that is Pack twelve apostles um at least for now

1462
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: from Fact twelve Media Day. Peace out, Catch you guys later.