WEBVTT - Roses for Ratings (Q&A)

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Almost Famous Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben and I are doing a fun little one today

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<v Speaker 2>where we're doing fan questions. And I just thought of

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<v Speaker 2>a question that I have for you, Ben. Since I, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>own a coffee shop, even though I have absolutely nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with the day-to-day or really anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You just pushed. You just placed a huge order today,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure we did. That's awesome. And you own

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<v Speaker 2>a coffee company. I was thinking, what? How do you

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<v Speaker 2>make your own coffee at home? Like, what brand do

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<v Speaker 2>you use? I mean, I know you use Generous.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, like, what coffee maker?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure. Well, I like a good French press or

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<v Speaker 3>pour over. There's a many mornings where I just use

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<v Speaker 3>like the old school coffee maker. I mean, like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not against it. I think it makes a great cup

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<v Speaker 3>of coffee. Here's the interesting thing. I used to really

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<v Speaker 3>love a vanilla latte. Uh, but after being in the

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<v Speaker 3>coffee world and traveling to the farms, seeing the work

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<v Speaker 3>that is put into each cup of coffee that we consume,

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<v Speaker 3>I drink it straight with nothing at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, Now you just drink black.

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<v Speaker 3>Just black. And I love it. It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did seeing the effort make you go black.

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<v Speaker 3>No cream sugar? Yeah, great question. Well, one, every bean

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<v Speaker 3>is picked by hand when it's specialty coffee. So you

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<v Speaker 3>have people climbing up and down the side of a mountain,

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<v Speaker 3>usually family members or people from the local community. that

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<v Speaker 3>get brought in during harvest season, but they're like climbing

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<v Speaker 3>up and down these mountains with like a hundred pounds

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<v Speaker 3>of coffee on their back, picking each bean by hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you see the process of them scattering it out,

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<v Speaker 3>drying it out, then re packaging it into the bags

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<v Speaker 3>that end up showing up to generous or to whatever

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<v Speaker 3>roaster you consume. I hope it's generous. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was just this, I think when you see

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<v Speaker 3>the art behind it and the, time into it. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to dilute, not that that's bad because I

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<v Speaker 3>know like producers who are growing and harvesting the coffee

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<v Speaker 3>that will add sugar or milk to their coffee. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not like a, a frowned upon thing. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>for me, I came back and said, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>like taste the coffee in its purest form as like a,

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<v Speaker 3>as like a little bit of a like ode to

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<v Speaker 3>the work put into it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really sweet. Now, as you've developed that taste, do

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<v Speaker 2>you prefer it black or do you just still drink

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<v Speaker 2>it for the purity sake?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really like cream or sugar in it. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a health side to that. Like it's just extra calories.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that I'm counting calories, but it is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the sneaky ways to get out of shape

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<v Speaker 3>is to drink a lot of sugar in the course

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<v Speaker 3>of a day. And it's really easy to do, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Like juices, sodas. adding you know sugar to your coffee

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<v Speaker 3>you're just consuming sugar all day long so it's one

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<v Speaker 3>easy way for me to cut out that uh i'm

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<v Speaker 3>not like goodness i'm not a health nut by any

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<v Speaker 3>means but that was it is one idea i don't

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<v Speaker 3>love the idea like the idea of waking up in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning and having uh sugar i guess uh but

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<v Speaker 3>it's also i like bourbon so i like the like

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<v Speaker 3>kick like it kind of You know, I like the bitterness.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the the the kick in the morning. I

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<v Speaker 3>like spicy things like I like things that like wake

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<v Speaker 3>up my palate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>What about you? I mean, you obviously are you do

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<v Speaker 3>own a coffee shop, one of America's best. But you're

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<v Speaker 3>probably in there quite a bit. What is your go to?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's funny is like one of the questions that

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<v Speaker 2>we got sent from one of our listeners via social

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<v Speaker 2>media is what kind of coffee do you guys drink? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you into seasonal drinks? And of course, I love

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<v Speaker 2>a pumpkin spice latte. What's funny is that like pumpkin

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<v Speaker 2>spice can either taste in like the same sip, taste

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely delicious and also taste kind of like throw up.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, I don't know if this is specific

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<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I get it. I get what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it can almost taste like white your mouth. Like, yeah, disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, why is it so good? Yet also seems like,

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<v Speaker 2>is it so good at the same time? I do

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<v Speaker 2>like pumpkin spice in the fall. I do not like fall.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the one thing about fall that I like

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<v Speaker 2>is just, it's truly a brisk fall morning with a

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<v Speaker 2>pumpkin spice flavored coffee. That is the only ounce of

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<v Speaker 2>fall that I enjoy. Um, then I, but I'm basic. I,

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<v Speaker 2>I asked you the question because we just got an

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<v Speaker 2>espresso and I mean like truly, wow, what a basic

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<v Speaker 2>biatch I am. But I posted on Instagram a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks ago. I was like, Hey, um, there's like

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<v Speaker 2>something about my Keurig, which is like grossing me. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't look forward to my morning coffee with

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<v Speaker 2>the Keurig anymore. What do you guys suggest? And half

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<v Speaker 2>the people. hundreds of people said, get an espresso. And

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<v Speaker 2>my sister like called me immediately after seeing the post.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was like, you need to get an espresso.

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<v Speaker 2>Got an espresso. I know it's basic, but solved my problems.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoy my at-home cup of coffee now again.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not generous. So you don't find that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit offensive to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a little bit because we buy plenty of generous

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<v Speaker 2>for the coffee shop. You do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you make up for it there. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>Nespresso does a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben, I don't like the drip coffee from home anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the pot, like a pot of coffee. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know whether it's my maker or not, but Jared and

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<v Speaker 2>I used to make delicious just pots of old fashioned coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know what happened to the maker or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if it's a different one, it's just not yummy

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<v Speaker 2>from the pot. It tastes like soap to me or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you probably are washing it with soap and not

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<v Speaker 3>getting all the soap out. It must be deep in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you brewing generous at home?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because I just want, like, I was doing, we

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't grind the things. We would barely ever make a pot.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you do make up for it. We can go, go.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you make up for it in your purchasing for Audrey's,

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<v Speaker 3>and I appreciate that. I would say everybody out there,

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<v Speaker 3>consider serving generous at your home. That would be a

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<v Speaker 3>big win for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to make.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what we're supporting right now? No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>There's this really cool organization in Indiana that's getting beds

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<v Speaker 3>for kids that have grown up without a bed. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're making sure that they like have a comfy bed

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<v Speaker 3>to sleep in with blankets and stuff for the winter, especially.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd be amazed at how many kids go without having

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<v Speaker 3>a bed to sleep on in their home. And so

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<v Speaker 3>this is the organization we're supporting right now. So this

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<v Speaker 3>holiday season, if you want to go support something good,

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<v Speaker 3>go buy some generous for you and your friends. Ashley,

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<v Speaker 3>this is an episode where we're answering listener questions. Um,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to ask us a question for the future, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>We want to answer anything. Uh, this question is from

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<v Speaker 3>D guard child. One, two, eight, three.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Ashley, you ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we talk about the latest unfair dancing with the

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<v Speaker 3>stars elimination?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what she's referring to?

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<v Speaker 3>Taylor Hanson has to be. And his partner, Britt, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So Taylor and Britt got higher scores than Guillermo, which is,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys know Guillermo from Jimmy Kimmel. So this happens

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<v Speaker 2>frequently in Dancing with the Stars. Taylor, I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't one of the greatest dancers of that celebrity group,

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<v Speaker 2>but people will say that he should have gotten especially Britt, too.

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<v Speaker 2>People really love Britt and think that she's been screwed

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<v Speaker 2>over the past couple of seasons and like she hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>had her shining star moment, but she's considered a leader

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<v Speaker 2>amongst a lot of the dancers. So they got eliminated

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<v Speaker 2>this week, even though their scores were better than Guillermo's.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, like, I get it. It's obviously unfair,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it's kind of like part reality show, part like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fan favorite situation. I don't know. Like, remember

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<v Speaker 2>when Andy Richter got so far?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but fan favorite feels weird because I think Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>Hanson would be a fan favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>It has more fans than Guillermo. Yeah, I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it. Obviously, you're talking to a fanson

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I wish I could. Taylor just, like, seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to have gotten so emotionally invested. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Britt has fans. Like, you would think that. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>would understand if they didn't win the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just odd that they got eliminated so early when

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<v Speaker 3>you're looking at, when you compare everybody side by side.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought that Taylor was going to go really

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<v Speaker 2>far because fans are really crazy. Like I could see

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<v Speaker 2>really hardcore fans that have followed them for the past

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<v Speaker 2>30 years, like actual fans. being on the phones, just insane,

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<v Speaker 2>insane amounts. Um, I can't say that I understand it

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<v Speaker 2>with the stars. Like the reason that I never got

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<v Speaker 2>into it is because I feel like when I watch

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<v Speaker 2>people dance, I'm either, I'm impressed by all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so bad at dancing that if you can

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<v Speaker 2>memorize a dance and then perform it in front of

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<v Speaker 2>millions of people and look pretty decent doing it, I

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<v Speaker 2>am like, wow, eights at least. When they give fives,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that was a five? I would have zeros

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. I would get zeros. I am so

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<v Speaker 2>bad at dancing, and everything that I've ever seen on

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<v Speaker 2>Dancing with the Stars looks good to me, looks nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell when it's like an, a wowie zowie.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the most part, I just think everybody looks

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<v Speaker 2>like they're doing a good job. I'm just not a

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<v Speaker 2>dance critic. When it comes to music, like American Idol,

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<v Speaker 2>I know what sounds good to my ears and what doesn't. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But dancing, it all looks pretty nice to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny. I was on social media this week prepping

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<v Speaker 3>for this and reading some of the criticisms. Each person's dance,

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<v Speaker 3>like the whole, you know, every time somebody dances, everybody

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<v Speaker 3>gets on, especially X and kind of comments on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I found it wild, wild how we're criticizing these

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<v Speaker 3>celebrities like they're professional dancers.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't even know what I was looking at.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the people's comments were like, look at this dance.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty much like it was so bad. Look at

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<v Speaker 3>the two step or whatever. And I'm watching, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you. I was like, that looked awesome. Like

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<v Speaker 3>that was so much better than I could do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Seriously. Seriously. I can't even express how crappy I

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<v Speaker 2>would be.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think there's a collusion on Dancing with the Stars?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what people say. There's rumors about this. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess there's always going to be rumors when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to Dancing with the Stars and American Idol and

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<v Speaker 2>Voice and such where it's like how much vote really counts.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to think it's all legit.

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of has to be, right? It's a game show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the game show category so there's There's legislation

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<v Speaker 3>that makes it fair that it has to be at least,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the algorithm has to be presented in some way.

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<v Speaker 3>I know there is no prize money, so maybe that

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<v Speaker 3>is a way to get around it. But in a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of ways, you could argue there is prize money

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<v Speaker 3>because the longer you're on the season, the more you

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<v Speaker 3>get paid.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. With American Idol, not to keep comparing, but

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<v Speaker 2>that was all fan votes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Not any judge votes. there was like no judge votes

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<v Speaker 2>and the voting times were a lot longer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>How did they make that fair on dancing with the stars?

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<v Speaker 2>Like everybody has the same amount. Does everybody have the

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<v Speaker 2>same amount of voting time? I guess so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would guess so. You know, what's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be interesting to me. We're obviously coming up on in

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<v Speaker 3>November to the midterm elections. You know, there's probably some

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<v Speaker 3>big races going on in your local area. Uh, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>be curious to see the numbers side by side on

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<v Speaker 3>once the midterms come out, who voted, like who had

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<v Speaker 3>received more votes, dance with the stars or like our

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<v Speaker 3>political system.

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<v Speaker 2>American Idol, again, not to bring it up, used to

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<v Speaker 2>definitely bring in more votes, but then again, one person

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<v Speaker 2>could vote a bajillion times with American Idol. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>used to be on the phone for American Idol for

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<v Speaker 2>legitimately two full hours. Cause you were allowed to do

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<v Speaker 2>it for two full hours. And I would, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is who I am. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>As an obsessive person. And I would be on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone and I would tally how many times I got through. Because, like,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you wouldn't get through. And it was always concerning

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<v Speaker 2>when you got through too many times.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, wait. Did you find this a worthy pursuit?

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. I was fully fulfilled by it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hours just voting. And thank you. Thanks for voting

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<v Speaker 2>for me. Blake. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then

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<v Speaker 2>again and again and again. I think I got, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it was about, like, 100 times. I got about 50

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<v Speaker 2>an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Ashley, just being in the same house as you

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<v Speaker 3>for a week would be so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish it was like this still. You know, I can't, like,

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<v Speaker 2>be fully as obsessive anymore. Nor do I find, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have obsessiveness.

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<v Speaker 3>You feel like a piece of your heart is missing?

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<v Speaker 2>I just, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>No. No.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's funny, like, what I used to do. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not really funny. I totally get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Next question is from Katie Wilk, 16. How did the

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<v Speaker 3>two of you end up hosting together? She says, love

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<v Speaker 3>your banter. That's sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>So sweet. We ended up hosting together because Amy Sugarman,

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<v Speaker 2>our wonderful executive producer over here.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like the Andy Cohen of. pop culture.

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<v Speaker 4>She is the andy cohen of iheart yes except.

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<v Speaker 3>She shows up less like we don't ever like you never.

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<v Speaker 4>See her that's because she doesn't fly anywhere amy's like

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<v Speaker 4>oh you come join us and do these fun things

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<v Speaker 4>it's like only in la or san francisco or tahoe

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<v Speaker 4>because guys amy doesn't fly she hasn't flown since 1999.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe that woman hasn't been to new york

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<v Speaker 2>since 1999 that's wild um So we love Amy so

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<v Speaker 2>much and she put us together. She just thought that

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<v Speaker 2>we would have a good silly dynamic where it's like I, Ashley, fangirl,

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<v Speaker 2>somehow ended up on her favorite show with Mr. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect Ben and lead of the show. More serious,

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<v Speaker 2>very gentlemanly with like this absolute hee hee hee in me.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fun. I mean, you know, there is a

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<v Speaker 3>backstory to it. So I had gotten off of... What

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<v Speaker 3>was the show called? With Lauren and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah. Happily Ever After?

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<v Speaker 3>Happily Ever After, question mark. And because of that show,

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't do the Dancing with the Stars. It was

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<v Speaker 3>same time, right after the filming of The Bachelor. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't really know the behind the scenes of how they

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<v Speaker 3>chose what I did and not do. But after Happily

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<v Speaker 3>Ever After, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>The week that we announced our breakup, it actually might

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<v Speaker 3>have been day of.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so awkward, Ben. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Amy calls me because she had originally set up this

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<v Speaker 3>show for Chris Harrison. It was Chris was going to

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<v Speaker 3>host it and they had it all planned out. But

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<v Speaker 3>then he was still hosting The Bachelor at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bachelor came and said, hey, you can't be like

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<v Speaker 3>the behind the scenes guy when you know everything behind

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<v Speaker 3>the scenes. This doesn't make sense. And I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was one of those mutually agreed upon, yeah, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>make sense for you to host this show. So Amy

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<v Speaker 3>was looking for a host. Now, flashback a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>to how I know I got the role. I was

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<v Speaker 3>in Vegas right after I was The Bachelor. JoJo's Season

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<v Speaker 3>was airing on television. iHeart was doing a big panel

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<v Speaker 3>with a lot of the contestants from JoJo's Season. They

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<v Speaker 3>got clearance to do these interviews. While the season was airing,

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<v Speaker 3>it was going to be a lot of fun. And

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<v Speaker 3>a friend of mine was going to host that panel

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<v Speaker 3>for iHeart. The friend ended up not feeling well and

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<v Speaker 3>not being able to get out of bed. And so

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<v Speaker 3>everybody shows up to the panel. He has to bow

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<v Speaker 3>out last minute. Everybody's sitting in the green room to

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<v Speaker 3>walk out to the audience. And I'm in there and

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<v Speaker 3>Amy looks at me and she says, we need a host. Ben,

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<v Speaker 3>can you host this?

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<v Speaker 2>A friend of yours, part of the show?

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the show I'm not gonna out him on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I may have an idea who it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I said yeah I can host this I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what we're hosting but yes I can ask

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<v Speaker 3>the questions to these guys because I was just there

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<v Speaker 3>kind of to hang out I wasn't even on the

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<v Speaker 3>panel I was just it was going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>JoJo season panel I said that's great I'll do that

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<v Speaker 3>we step up we have a great time I walk

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<v Speaker 3>off stage and Amy tells me hey I had this

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<v Speaker 3>show for Chris Harrison we still want to do it

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<v Speaker 3>would you want to co-host this with Ashley. And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to host with Ashley. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>you very well at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I still fangirled over Ben. I was like, what?

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<v Speaker 1>Me?

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<v Speaker 3>I was nervous to talk to Ashley.

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you're a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>The least nerve-wracking person to ever be around.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think after 11 years, I would agree.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, maybe after 11 minutes, I would have agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>But our first episode was us talking about the breakup.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was a very like sensitive, emotional time for me.

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<v Speaker 3>There was still a lot that I was processing. I

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<v Speaker 3>just need, I wanted this job. And so Amy was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you need to talk about it. And I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to talk about it. Like, it doesn't make

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<v Speaker 3>sense if you don't, I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 3>a good decision or bad. I look back and like,

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<v Speaker 3>that was such a brutal couple of weeks. But the

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<v Speaker 3>funny part to finish this thought is Ashley and myself

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<v Speaker 3>we used to do this whole show by calling each

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<v Speaker 3>other and three-waying in iHeart. We used to do this

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing over the phone. It was a big step

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<v Speaker 3>for us to end up, one, getting in person in LA.

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<v Speaker 2>You used to. I used to be in the audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, because you were in LA at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>And you would call in. And then I would three-way in. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then every once in a while, I could show

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<v Speaker 3>up to LA and do it in person. Those are

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<v Speaker 3>always some of my favorite times. They still are my favorite, really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're so fun. I miss the studio.

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<v Speaker 3>But then COVID happened and Zoom obviously took over. But

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of things have changed. I will say this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm proud of this, Ashley. We are the first podcast

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<v Speaker 3>to really take off underneath the iHeart umbrella. They obviously

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<v Speaker 3>acquired some other companies along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel cool about that, too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were the, like, pioneers.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. We were the pioneers under Amy's, like, pop

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<v Speaker 2>culture umbrella. Well, I mean, I guess there's a zillion

0:20:19.700 --> 0:20:22.160
<v Speaker 2>pop culture umbrellas, but there's a lot under Amy's that

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And now the Jonas podcast is, so I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel pretty cool about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so we were paired up by Amy, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are forever grateful for.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you love our banter, I do think it's

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<v Speaker 3>because I really love Ashley. It is fun for me

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to her.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so fun. I noticed a couple years in,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait a second. Ben is one of

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<v Speaker 2>my best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I would call Ashley about a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>that I needed to talk to her about.

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<v Speaker 2>Same. Really. It's like me, when I need some advice,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I go to my dad and Jared and

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<v Speaker 2>my sister and then Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And my mom, of course, but my mom is mostly like,

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<v Speaker 2>she's so gentle.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if I needed.

0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Somebody to like, be like, you need to take action

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:11.400
<v Speaker 2>in this way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, you'd be the right. It's, it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>11 years in, we're having a blast doing it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and only better things to come. Goodness. It's been a blast. Uh, okay.

0:21:23.180 --> 0:21:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Siyab Han 26. What's your dream guest to have on? Ooh, Ashley.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like you have answered. I mean, we haven't

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<v Speaker 3>had all the dream guests of yours, but we probably could.

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<v Speaker 3>If we wanted a Jonas brother on, we could probably

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<v Speaker 3>have him on next week if we really wanted. We've

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<v Speaker 3>had so many. I remember when Lance Bass came on

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<v Speaker 3>in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>Lance was so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>You were so excited. It was unreal. I think Peyton

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<v Speaker 3>Manning might be mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So, like, this is outside of the Bachelor world.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, but I think Peyton could come on and

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<v Speaker 3>talk about reality television.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Well, then, yeah, I guess my dream guest would

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<v Speaker 2>be having a Jonas Brother on. And then, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's definitely the answer. If I'm going to go into

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<v Speaker 2>the Bachelor realm.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say that we've had all of the dream

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<v Speaker 3>guests on.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love to have, like, the ones that I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like are always great gets. Chris Harrison, who will

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<v Speaker 2>be coming on in a couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about the vow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's great when Hannah Brown's on. Tyler will

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<v Speaker 2>probably be on soon. Those are good ones. Who has, like,

0:22:52.270 --> 0:22:54.830
<v Speaker 2>not been on enough? Like, I don't think Sean Lowe's

0:22:54.869 --> 0:22:55.510
<v Speaker 2>been on enough.

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<v Speaker 3>He hasn't. No, that, yeah, Sean Lowe would be a

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<v Speaker 3>good one. I mean, some of those like iconic people.

0:23:01.570 --> 0:23:04.310
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know right now Tyler's name's huge because

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<v Speaker 3>he's on Dance with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Emily Maynard, I always say she doesn't really do podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Would love to have her on. She's never been on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably the answer. JoJo and Jordan together. Never had them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've had JoJo once.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was actually going to say, I think I'm

0:23:19.830 --> 0:23:22.350
<v Speaker 3>in a really, and this goes for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I find it.

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<v Speaker 3>Exhilarating, like a little nerve wracking. I get a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit tense, not with Jojo as much. Cause I just

0:23:32.490 --> 0:23:34.609
<v Speaker 3>think I've always thought Jojo is great. And I think

0:23:34.650 --> 0:23:37.730
<v Speaker 3>her and Jordan together are the coolest two people to

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:39.820
<v Speaker 3>talk to. And I know they're fun to talk to. Um,

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 3>I do get excited, nervous less often now than I

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 3>did 11 years ago doing this with whoever comes on,

0:23:49.900 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 3>but I do find it fun to have past contestants

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.300
<v Speaker 3>from the season of the bachelor that I was on

0:23:57.090 --> 0:23:59.470
<v Speaker 3>coming on the show. Like, I think it's fun to

0:23:59.510 --> 0:24:01.710
<v Speaker 3>catch up with these girls again. I don't get to

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:06.460
<v Speaker 3>in my everyday life often. This is a good platform

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:11.340
<v Speaker 3>to do it. And whatever they believe or not, and

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.629
<v Speaker 3>I think they probably, for the most part, do believe it,

0:24:14.369 --> 0:24:16.810
<v Speaker 3>I get really pumped up to see where they're at

0:24:16.830 --> 0:24:19.930
<v Speaker 3>in their life now. It's exciting to know what they

0:24:19.950 --> 0:24:23.190
<v Speaker 3>were doing 10 years ago and what they were looking for.

0:24:23.470 --> 0:24:26.580
<v Speaker 3>And then to see so many of them now crushing

0:24:26.619 --> 0:24:30.700
<v Speaker 3>it in their careers or as parents or in their

0:24:30.740 --> 0:24:33.020
<v Speaker 3>love life. It's just fun for me. And so I

0:24:34.140 --> 0:24:36.010
<v Speaker 3>think those would be my dream guests. If at some

0:24:36.070 --> 0:24:39.469
<v Speaker 3>point we could just keep like a weekly funnel of

0:24:39.750 --> 0:24:42.209
<v Speaker 3>here's a new person leading up to, you know, that

0:24:42.230 --> 0:24:42.969
<v Speaker 3>would be fun for me.

0:24:43.609 --> 0:24:47.790
<v Speaker 2>Oh, guess what? We're having Chris soul's bachelor girls reunion

0:24:48.090 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 2>part two. If we're making an annual thing, it's been

0:24:51.540 --> 0:24:52.859
<v Speaker 2>two weeks. Yeah.

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 3>That's so good. Um, okay. Will we be breaking down

0:24:57.580 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 3>the vow is the final question here. Um, before we

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:06.500
<v Speaker 3>break down what's happening with the vow and Warner brothers. Yes,

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 3>of course we break down the vow. We're very excited

0:25:08.460 --> 0:25:11.070
<v Speaker 3>for the vow, but let's not dismiss the fact that

0:25:11.090 --> 0:25:13.870
<v Speaker 3>we still want to see the bachelor be successful. We're

0:25:13.910 --> 0:25:18.290
<v Speaker 3>not seeing this as pick a side. Uh, I just

0:25:18.330 --> 0:25:20.790
<v Speaker 3>don't know what the bachelor is doing. So it's impossible

0:25:20.830 --> 0:25:22.870
<v Speaker 3>for us to be like, yeah, rally behind the bachelor

0:25:22.970 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 3>and the vow. Um, When The Bachelor has no content

0:25:25.260 --> 0:25:26.460
<v Speaker 3>that they're promoting.

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:30.230
<v Speaker 2>Like, let's talk about this for a second. It's October 5th.

0:25:30.410 --> 0:25:34.460
<v Speaker 2>There has been no Bachelor chosen. Normally, we'd be weeks

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>into filming.

0:25:35.740 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 3>How hard is it to pick a guy? They found me. Like,

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.100
<v Speaker 3>I was selling software. How hard is it?

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.939
<v Speaker 2>I know you were selling software and writing instructions in

0:25:43.980 --> 0:25:48.060
<v Speaker 2>tiny manuals, but they found you, and you were a diamond,

0:25:48.180 --> 0:25:50.350
<v Speaker 2>and they found Jared, and I don't even know how

0:25:50.420 --> 0:25:52.510
<v Speaker 2>I'm married to this man. This morning, I woke up.

0:25:52.930 --> 0:25:56.070
<v Speaker 2>He woke up Dawson. He wakes up Dawson and gets

0:25:56.090 --> 0:25:57.790
<v Speaker 2>him ready all the time. He had packed his lunch.

0:25:57.830 --> 0:26:00.609
<v Speaker 2>He cleaned up the entire kitchen, did all the dishes,

0:26:00.910 --> 0:26:04.930
<v Speaker 2>cleaned the entire family room. I'm like, who are you?

0:26:05.030 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Stop making me look bad every day of my life.

0:26:08.700 --> 0:26:10.250
<v Speaker 3>And he probably would look so good doing it.

0:26:10.310 --> 0:26:12.730
<v Speaker 2>And he looks so good doing it. And I come

0:26:12.910 --> 0:26:17.609
<v Speaker 2>out in my disgusting Halloween pajamas looking an absolute wreck.

0:26:18.090 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Being like, oh, hey, I guess I'll brush Dawson's teeth

0:26:21.380 --> 0:26:24.460
<v Speaker 2>since you've gotten him ready. And he's like, nope, I

0:26:24.540 --> 0:26:28.260
<v Speaker 2>already brushed his teeth. Okay. All right. I'll just go

0:26:28.420 --> 0:26:29.120
<v Speaker 2>retreat now.

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.770
<v Speaker 3>I'm just so sorry. I'm just going to go talk

0:26:31.810 --> 0:26:36.670
<v Speaker 3>to Ben about coffee. Jesus Christ. Yeah, we'll be breaking

0:26:36.690 --> 0:26:38.669
<v Speaker 3>down the vow. We want to see The Bachelor successful.

0:26:39.530 --> 0:26:41.429
<v Speaker 3>We obviously are excited for the vow. I think it's

0:26:41.510 --> 0:26:44.109
<v Speaker 3>going to be fantastic. And it is going to be

0:26:44.170 --> 0:26:47.770
<v Speaker 3>great to see Chris Harrison on our screens. Again, this

0:26:47.869 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 3>brings us into our final topic to discuss here, Ashley.

0:26:52.540 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 3>In a letter obtained by Variety, sent September 18th, WBTV,

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 3>the studio that produces The Bachelor, sent a cease and

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:06.470
<v Speaker 3>desist letter to Fox Nation claiming the new series appears

0:27:06.530 --> 0:27:10.850
<v Speaker 3>to be, through promos, only through promos, a plain attempt

0:27:10.890 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 3>to capitalize on and ride the coattails of WB's instantly

0:27:17.619 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 3>recognizable intellectual property and the franchise's goodwill in violation, state

0:27:23.420 --> 0:27:27.379
<v Speaker 3>and federal trademark, copyright, and unfair competition laws. Without having

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.369
<v Speaker 3>seen the series itself, they cannot comment on it and

0:27:30.410 --> 0:27:34.290
<v Speaker 3>reserve all right and connection therewith. To be clear, though,

0:27:35.070 --> 0:27:39.650
<v Speaker 3>we have no objection, WBTV says, to Fox and Lionsgate

0:27:39.690 --> 0:27:42.830
<v Speaker 3>releasing a dating show hosted by Chris Harrison in and

0:27:42.869 --> 0:27:46.450
<v Speaker 3>of itself. But thus far, Fox and Lionsgate have promoted

0:27:46.490 --> 0:27:49.620
<v Speaker 3>the series entirely on the back of the franchise, not

0:27:49.730 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 3>on its own merits. So, in short, WBTV is suing

0:27:56.940 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 3>Not suing. Cease and desisting. Cease and desisting.

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.500
<v Speaker 2>They're asking for them to stop. That's what that means.

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:04.260
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:06.590
<v Speaker 2>Promoting the show in such a fashion.

0:28:07.450 --> 0:28:12.909
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Because they think it is riding the coattails of

0:28:12.930 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 3>The Bachelor. I would say this. 100% there is innuendo

0:28:18.619 --> 0:28:23.590
<v Speaker 3>to The Bachelor in those promos. you know, stepping on roses.

0:28:24.109 --> 0:28:27.830
<v Speaker 3>Do I think WBTV or The Bachelor owns the rights

0:28:27.869 --> 0:28:29.659
<v Speaker 3>to roses? I don't know how they would get the

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:31.260
<v Speaker 3>trademark to a rose.

0:28:33.220 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 2>In Fox's response, they said, you guys, basically in layman's terms,

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.450
<v Speaker 2>you guys don't own roses. You don't own falling roses.

0:28:41.950 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 2>In fact, Beauty and the Beast, American Beauty said, And

0:28:46.140 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Moulin Rouge also use falling roses in their promotional materials.

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 2>It symbolizes those movies as well as your show, you know,

0:28:56.140 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>You Can't Really Own a Flower. I'll give you a

0:29:00.980 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>little secret here. I've received one cease and desist. Actually,

0:29:04.980 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't to me personally. It was to a production company.

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 2>And it was very similar to this. It was a

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.230
<v Speaker 2>YouTube show that we wanted to... It basically was like a...

0:29:14.890 --> 0:29:19.110
<v Speaker 2>A public sizzle reel. Where we were going to follow

0:29:19.150 --> 0:29:21.690
<v Speaker 2>the lives of... You know this.

0:29:21.770 --> 0:29:22.470
<v Speaker 3>This is years ago.

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:28.660
<v Speaker 2>Me, Jade, Tanner, Jared, and Nick. And we were going to...

0:29:28.580 --> 0:29:31.780
<v Speaker 2>It was called Rosebuds. Which I came up with the

0:29:31.820 --> 0:29:36.510
<v Speaker 2>title Rosebuds. And, well, they said that altogether that there

0:29:36.550 --> 0:29:39.870
<v Speaker 2>was too much likeliness to their cast. So it was...

0:29:40.060 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>they owned us in the fact that we were all together.

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>And the name Rosebuds had to be definitely swashed. They

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 2>said it would let it go forward if we changed

0:29:51.620 --> 0:29:57.740
<v Speaker 2>the name. So again, they said cease and desist Rosebuds. Again,

0:29:57.860 --> 0:30:03.500
<v Speaker 2>saying that they owned roses. I'm like, okay. I don't

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 2>want to upset you guys.

0:30:04.540 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 3>We don't have Fox money to fight this.

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.950
<v Speaker 2>No, I appreciate you guys so much. Of course, we'll

0:30:09.990 --> 0:30:14.590
<v Speaker 2>change the name, right? And we all know so many

0:30:14.650 --> 0:30:17.310
<v Speaker 2>of our castmates from Bachelor have gotten cease and desist

0:30:17.350 --> 0:30:18.709
<v Speaker 2>for various reasons.

0:30:19.330 --> 0:30:21.290
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:21.350 --> 0:30:23.270
<v Speaker 2>But I would think that you and I both saw

0:30:23.350 --> 0:30:26.050
<v Speaker 2>this promo for The Vow and we thought, oh, here

0:30:26.130 --> 0:30:29.620
<v Speaker 2>comes the cease and desist. It is being crafted right now.

0:30:31.190 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, we didn't really want... We don't

0:30:36.060 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>want to do anything. We'll cease and desist. Yeah, I'm good. Again,

0:30:39.740 --> 0:30:43.660
<v Speaker 2>we don't have Fox money. Okay, we're good. But with Chris,

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.030
<v Speaker 2>in this case, this is Fox. This is their decision.

0:30:48.290 --> 0:30:50.610
<v Speaker 2>They knew that it was spicy.

0:30:51.030 --> 0:30:51.710
<v Speaker 3>They're not scared.

0:30:52.070 --> 0:30:53.510
<v Speaker 2>They're not scared. And so if.

0:30:55.110 --> 0:30:57.530
<v Speaker 2>If Warner Brothers really wanted to bring them to court

0:30:57.590 --> 0:31:00.770
<v Speaker 2>and said like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. We actually do.

0:31:01.150 --> 0:31:03.630
<v Speaker 2>We own roses. They know that that's not going to

0:31:03.650 --> 0:31:05.430
<v Speaker 2>stand up in court, that they don't own roses.

0:31:06.470 --> 0:31:09.430
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, it goes back to the bigger conversation

0:31:10.610 --> 0:31:15.780
<v Speaker 3>of what is, I'll just say the Bachelor franchises. What

0:31:15.860 --> 0:31:20.239
<v Speaker 3>is their plan and strategy in the modern area to

0:31:20.420 --> 0:31:24.100
<v Speaker 3>uplift and support They're cast members who have gone on

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 3>to do great things. We tied this conversation a few

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.740
<v Speaker 3>weeks ago when it came to like you on The

0:31:30.790 --> 0:31:34.290
<v Speaker 3>Real Housewives of Rhode Island. And then obviously we've been

0:31:34.310 --> 0:31:37.710
<v Speaker 3>breaking down all these other shows that former cast members

0:31:37.870 --> 0:31:41.719
<v Speaker 3>of The Bachelor have gone on. And for me, I

0:31:41.780 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 3>hear the idea of Rosebuds as an example and think

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:47.210
<v Speaker 3>that is only good for the show. It only promotes

0:31:47.790 --> 0:31:50.770
<v Speaker 3>this Bachelor world in another way that they're not paying

0:31:50.830 --> 0:31:54.190
<v Speaker 3>for nor producing nor involved in. I don't know why

0:31:54.230 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 3>they put the stop to this stuff. That has yet

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.540
<v Speaker 3>to be clear to me because instead they have all

0:31:58.580 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 3>these other shows that are competing against The Bachelor and

0:32:02.220 --> 0:32:05.610
<v Speaker 3>those cast members going off to do crazy good things. Um,

0:32:05.830 --> 0:32:08.310
<v Speaker 3>Bravo is a great example and they, you know, for

0:32:08.330 --> 0:32:10.430
<v Speaker 3>the most part, get behind those people and try to

0:32:10.730 --> 0:32:15.290
<v Speaker 3>uplift them and get them more opportunities, more, you know, publicity,

0:32:15.750 --> 0:32:18.650
<v Speaker 3>more exposure where the bachelor feels like they kind of

0:32:18.690 --> 0:32:22.830
<v Speaker 3>put this like umbrella over you for a long period

0:32:22.850 --> 0:32:27.010
<v Speaker 3>of your life and say, you can't do anything outside

0:32:27.030 --> 0:32:30.450
<v Speaker 3>of this franchise, which makes it really hard when the

0:32:30.470 --> 0:32:33.450
<v Speaker 3>franchise is doing nothing right now for themselves.

0:32:33.910 --> 0:32:35.490
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

0:32:36.090 --> 0:32:36.310
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:36.430 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 2>So we should read what they said. So Fox basically

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 2>said there's a there's the there's the roses. There's a

0:32:44.340 --> 0:32:49.500
<v Speaker 2>mansion in the background. And then they're like, well, not

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:53.900
<v Speaker 2>Harrison himself, but Harrison himself along the side of roses

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:58.110
<v Speaker 2>and a mansion that just feels very much of an

0:32:58.170 --> 0:33:04.300
<v Speaker 2>infringement on our. What is it like brainchild? And this

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 2>is what Fox responded with. Your letter also focuses myopically.

0:33:09.820 --> 0:33:12.700
<v Speaker 2>This is to convey that The Vow offers a different

0:33:12.740 --> 0:33:16.570
<v Speaker 2>approach from other dating shows. By placing the focus on

0:33:16.590 --> 0:33:20.590
<v Speaker 2>meaningful relationships, commitment, and building a life together, your letter

0:33:20.670 --> 0:33:26.190
<v Speaker 2>appears designed to vindicate legitimate copyright and trademark interests, not

0:33:26.270 --> 0:33:30.740
<v Speaker 2>to vindicate legitimate copyright and trademark interests, but to restrict

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:35.820
<v Speaker 2>Fox Nation and Chris Harrison from promoting a competing dating show.

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.970
<v Speaker 2>It's unfortunate that Warner Brothers is targeting Mr. Harrison in

0:33:39.010 --> 0:33:44.830
<v Speaker 2>this malicious and vindictive manner. And then they final, they

0:33:44.870 --> 0:33:49.969
<v Speaker 2>close it by saying, the vow exhorts its participants and

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.300
<v Speaker 2>viewers to choose love. And we trust that Warner Brothers

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.950
<v Speaker 2>will do the same and drop its pursuits in these

0:33:56.790 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 2>meritless claims. Basically, they just want Warner to choose love.

0:34:07.540 --> 0:34:09.660
<v Speaker 2>So corny, but also amazing.

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I just want to be behind the scenes. There's so

0:34:12.420 --> 0:34:16.630
<v Speaker 3>much happening right now. I don't quite... I get it.

0:34:16.780 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 3>I understand why Warner's upset. I get it.

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's just say it. Let's just say it honestly.

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I understand why Warner is upset because... Somehow, someway,

0:34:26.420 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Chris Harrison, his timing is so good. He literally is

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.800
<v Speaker 3>stepping in with this show in the midst of a

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:38.820
<v Speaker 3>down season. And that was not strategically planned, I don't believe.

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:42.580
<v Speaker 3>I think it was good timing for him to have

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 3>this idea for a show that he found the differentiator

0:34:47.140 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 3>in what was out there in the market and what

0:34:48.980 --> 0:34:52.980
<v Speaker 3>could be possible is to do a show that promoted...

0:34:52.940 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 3>what he's and the show is calling traditional values, which

0:34:56.500 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 3>The Bachelor would be the closest thing on television to

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:00.570
<v Speaker 3>that back in the day.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:01.900 --> 0:35:03.549
<v Speaker 3>So he is coming out with a show, though, that

0:35:03.610 --> 0:35:06.450
<v Speaker 3>is focused on that. And it just happens to be

0:35:06.670 --> 0:35:12.310
<v Speaker 3>already filmed in production in the midst of a downtime

0:35:12.450 --> 0:35:18.660
<v Speaker 3>for The Bachelor. And this trailer was definitely stepping on

0:35:20.380 --> 0:35:22.900
<v Speaker 3>The idea that The Bachelor is nowhere to be found

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 3>right now, even though we do still want it to

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 3>be found.

0:35:25.820 --> 0:35:26.340
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.259
<v Speaker 3>Don't want you to hear us wrong. We don't want

0:35:28.300 --> 0:35:31.020
<v Speaker 3>The Bachelor to go away. It is not something that

0:35:31.060 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 3>I think is fun. It's a great part of our

0:35:33.700 --> 0:35:36.250
<v Speaker 3>life when it's good and it's done well. It's a

0:35:36.410 --> 0:35:41.930
<v Speaker 3>fun watch. However, my honest thought is this was not

0:35:41.969 --> 0:35:45.430
<v Speaker 3>a battle Warner needed to pick because all it does

0:35:45.450 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 3>is bring free promotion to Chris's show and And I

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.100
<v Speaker 3>don't think it's a battle they win. I don't know

0:35:53.180 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 3>how they win it.

0:35:54.700 --> 0:35:56.500
<v Speaker 2>It looks like they're jealous.

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:58.450
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's how it looks to me.

0:35:58.469 --> 0:36:04.129
<v Speaker 2>It looks like they're like, he's got interest. He got

0:36:04.150 --> 0:36:08.650
<v Speaker 2>people's interest. And we don't want that. And it's like, guys,

0:36:09.250 --> 0:36:13.689
<v Speaker 2>so sorry. You fired him. You fired him. So now

0:36:13.750 --> 0:36:14.210
<v Speaker 2>you have to accept.

0:36:14.230 --> 0:36:17.070
<v Speaker 3>I think the public opinion is he did not get fired.

0:36:17.469 --> 0:36:18.930
<v Speaker 3>It was a mutual departure.

0:36:19.150 --> 0:36:24.149
<v Speaker 2>Oh, please now. That's the public opinion? Or is that

0:36:24.190 --> 0:36:26.340
<v Speaker 2>the contractual verbiage?

0:36:26.489 --> 0:36:30.860
<v Speaker 3>I think it's the verbiage that we use. I think they,

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 3>if we look back, I think it was a, it was...

0:36:34.430 --> 0:36:37.930
<v Speaker 3>a forced departure on both sides to say, this is

0:36:38.010 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 3>no longer a good, healthy relationship. We need to divorce

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:43.739
<v Speaker 3>in some way.

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.140
<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, I think they regret it and they want

0:36:46.180 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 2>to get remarried and they can't do it anymore because

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<v Speaker 2>Chris doesn't want to get remarried.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so as we wrap here, Ashley, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of more questions that we have, but we'll answer those

0:37:09.860 --> 0:37:11.660
<v Speaker 3>at a later date because it's always fun to hear

0:37:11.739 --> 0:37:13.140
<v Speaker 3>from you and hear what's going on in your mind

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.810
<v Speaker 3>and what you're curious about. It's fun to then, maybe

0:37:16.830 --> 0:37:18.549
<v Speaker 3>the next time we can do this, Ashley, we can

0:37:18.590 --> 0:37:20.890
<v Speaker 3>start talking about family dynamics. I know there's a lot

0:37:20.910 --> 0:37:24.930
<v Speaker 3>of questions on here of what's your family planning look like?

0:37:25.070 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 3>What are you and Jared up to today?

0:37:26.580 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I see that. I'm like, guys, please.

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Also, questions about my family planning and what Jess and

0:37:31.700 --> 0:37:32.970
<v Speaker 3>I are up to today. I want to talk about

0:37:32.989 --> 0:37:36.290
<v Speaker 3>all that. It's fun to let you guys in, especially

0:37:36.310 --> 0:37:39.230
<v Speaker 3>because I'm not as good as Ashley on social media.

0:37:39.370 --> 0:37:42.850
<v Speaker 3>And so there's a little bit of dark area in

0:37:42.870 --> 0:37:44.310
<v Speaker 3>my life that you don't know about. And it would

0:37:44.330 --> 0:37:46.259
<v Speaker 3>be fun to sit down and talk about. In fact,

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 3>last night, Ashley, I got a self-promote. I Do In

0:37:50.580 --> 0:37:57.110
<v Speaker 3>Destination aired on television. It premiered. Ben, where was my text? Well,

0:37:57.130 --> 0:37:58.310
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to ask my friends.

0:37:58.330 --> 0:37:59.009
<v Speaker 2>You need to tape it.

0:37:59.450 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, come on. I'm not going to ask my friends to.

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:03.020
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:04.299
<v Speaker 3>You have a lot going on in your life.

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.700
<v Speaker 2>I didn't watch the screener yet because I'm the worst.

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:10.819
<v Speaker 3>It's on YouTube starting on the 6th, Ashley. So it's

0:38:10.900 --> 0:38:13.410
<v Speaker 3>easier to, you know, to find if you just go

0:38:13.430 --> 0:38:14.310
<v Speaker 3>to YouTube. Okay, that's tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you.

0:38:14.850 --> 0:38:17.710
<v Speaker 3>Type in I do in destination. You'll get episode one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:38:18.290 --> 0:38:19.910
<v Speaker 3>We're full in. So go watch it. Let me know

0:38:19.930 --> 0:38:23.150
<v Speaker 3>what you think. Okay, I'm excited. And I also got

0:38:23.170 --> 0:38:26.259
<v Speaker 3>to interview the first two couples here on the podcast.

0:38:27.110 --> 0:38:28.509
<v Speaker 3>So you can go back and listen to that if

0:38:28.550 --> 0:38:31.489
<v Speaker 3>you're interested in kind of their stories and what their

0:38:31.530 --> 0:38:34.430
<v Speaker 3>experiences were like on that show. So there's my point

0:38:34.450 --> 0:38:36.750
<v Speaker 3>to all this was there's a lot happening in our

0:38:36.790 --> 0:38:39.130
<v Speaker 3>lives that we don't talk about on Almost Famous because

0:38:39.210 --> 0:38:41.610
<v Speaker 3>it's not the place nor the platform, but question and

0:38:41.670 --> 0:38:43.730
<v Speaker 3>answers like this allow us to open up a bit

0:38:43.770 --> 0:38:46.180
<v Speaker 3>and it's fun to do that. So please write us

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:51.240
<v Speaker 3>in with your questions. But in closing, Ashley, your final

0:38:51.340 --> 0:38:57.190
<v Speaker 3>thoughts on The Vow and this issue with Warner. You

0:38:57.250 --> 0:38:59.739
<v Speaker 3>and I both love Warner. We've said it five times.

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:03.020
<v Speaker 2>I want to say it again. I love Warner. I

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.180
<v Speaker 2>am in debt to them for what they've created with

0:39:06.219 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 2>my life. You know, I just have to say that professionally,

0:39:12.180 --> 0:39:19.470
<v Speaker 2>this feels like a move that only somebody. I don't

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 2>jealous or just unhappy about this. Something that could be,

0:39:27.780 --> 0:39:29.489
<v Speaker 2>which could be that this show could be a hit.

0:39:30.020 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 2>If this show is a hit and it has Chris

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 2>involved with it, I think it's just going to make

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:40.130
<v Speaker 2>them regret their decision to part ways with Chris even more.

0:39:40.250 --> 0:39:41.690
<v Speaker 2>And I think that this is a regret that they

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<v Speaker 2>have often. I think that they had decreased interest viewers

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:51.700
<v Speaker 2>after his departure I think that the majority of the

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:55.620
<v Speaker 2>audience like whenever they see Chris on something or it's

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.890
<v Speaker 2>like oh my gosh we miss you so much and

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like they don't need a reminder of

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<v Speaker 2>what they decided to depart with.

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<v Speaker 3>Here is my final thought if the vow and I'm

0:40:09.910 --> 0:40:12.750
<v Speaker 3>not saying it can't if the vow can come in

0:40:12.790 --> 0:40:15.730
<v Speaker 3>in season one and take a that big of a

0:40:15.830 --> 0:40:19.980
<v Speaker 3>dent out of Bachelor viewership, then The Bachelor needs to

0:40:20.020 --> 0:40:22.899
<v Speaker 3>look internally at themselves more than they need to look

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:26.339
<v Speaker 3>at The Vow. The Vow is on Fox Nation. It's

0:40:26.380 --> 0:40:30.340
<v Speaker 3>a streaming service. It is a brand new show. It

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:34.379
<v Speaker 3>has a great host. It has some great promotion right now.

0:40:35.180 --> 0:40:41.310
<v Speaker 3>But if The Bachelor is threatened by a season one

0:40:41.450 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 3>show that has never been on TV before, then I

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:47.890
<v Speaker 3>think they need to look internally and go, where did

0:40:47.930 --> 0:40:50.930
<v Speaker 3>we go wrong? What are we doing wrong? Who's pulling

0:40:50.969 --> 0:40:53.230
<v Speaker 3>the strings over here and making decisions? Because it's not

0:40:53.310 --> 0:40:57.670
<v Speaker 3>pushing us in a direction forward and upward for consistently

0:40:57.710 --> 0:40:59.590
<v Speaker 3>for the last few years. It feels like we're fumbling

0:40:59.670 --> 0:41:01.590
<v Speaker 3>around trying to figure out how to make sense of

0:41:01.650 --> 0:41:05.030
<v Speaker 3>this show and what it is. Why did that ever happen?

0:41:05.510 --> 0:41:10.430
<v Speaker 3>What went wrong? How can a show die so fast? That's,

0:41:10.469 --> 0:41:12.969
<v Speaker 3>I think, the question. Let's not pick on the new show.

0:41:13.930 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Let's instead go, How do we get better with the

0:41:17.140 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 3>millions of dollars and millions of viewers that we have

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.460
<v Speaker 3>built in and the franchise name and all the trademarking

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 3>that they have? How do we grow instead of how

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 3>do we protect?

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<v Speaker 2>And Ben, my question to you is, what do you

0:41:31.230 --> 0:41:34.290
<v Speaker 2>think about it being on Fox Nation? So Fox Nation,

0:41:34.730 --> 0:41:38.290
<v Speaker 2>Fox doesn't have its own. When it comes to the biggies,

0:41:39.050 --> 0:41:44.940
<v Speaker 2>we have, you know, ABC with Hulu. We have NBC

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:50.029
<v Speaker 2>with Peacock. We have CBS and Paramount. Fox doesn't have

0:41:50.260 --> 0:41:53.870
<v Speaker 2>its own streaming service outside of what I've always thought

0:41:53.950 --> 0:41:58.410
<v Speaker 2>Fox Nation is more of Fox News's streaming network with

0:41:58.750 --> 0:42:02.930
<v Speaker 2>bonus political content and bonus historical content. There's stuff like that.

0:42:03.450 --> 0:42:09.089
<v Speaker 2>But they've never had. a dating show. This is 1000%

0:42:09.090 --> 0:42:11.700
<v Speaker 2>first of its kind for the streaming network. Do you

0:42:11.780 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>think this is Fox trying to be like, no Fox

0:42:14.900 --> 0:42:19.300
<v Speaker 2>nation is our streaming network or is this a Fox news?

0:42:20.180 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 3>It's a, I think it's a, I think it's Fox

0:42:23.660 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 3>nation is a low risk entry point for a new

0:42:28.140 --> 0:42:30.450
<v Speaker 3>idea and a new show that Fox has never done,

0:42:30.489 --> 0:42:34.320
<v Speaker 3>which is in the dating category. I I've said it

0:42:34.460 --> 0:42:36.100
<v Speaker 3>once and I'll say it again. I don't think it

0:42:36.140 --> 0:42:38.359
<v Speaker 3>exists on Fox nation next year. I think it goes

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.150
<v Speaker 3>to cable. I think Fox says it goes to Fox.

0:42:41.630 --> 0:42:44.110
<v Speaker 3>I think it goes to Fox. Why not? Get the

0:42:44.150 --> 0:42:46.469
<v Speaker 3>money behind it in the production. Hey, Ash, we got

0:42:46.489 --> 0:42:48.690
<v Speaker 3>to wrap. We got a lot to talk about today.

0:42:48.710 --> 0:42:53.030
<v Speaker 3>A lot more to break down, continue to stay listening

0:42:53.070 --> 0:42:55.660
<v Speaker 3>to the almost famous podcast. As we move forward, we'll

0:42:55.700 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 3>be back with more question and answers. So please continue

0:42:58.180 --> 0:43:00.729
<v Speaker 3>to write us in or leave a message. We love

0:43:00.790 --> 0:43:03.009
<v Speaker 3>hearing from you. So until next time, I've been Ben.

0:43:03.489 --> 0:43:04.810
<v Speaker 2>I've been Ashley. See ya.

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