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Speaker 1: First of all, let me just say Todd, thank you
Speaker 1: for your understated ad libs, because we've had a few.
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Speaker 1: We got post holiday Supreme. We got a fun ticcolo
Speaker 1: in the house for something all how you doing we
Speaker 1: have Ah, it's all you and sugar, Steve. I never
Speaker 1: missed a show. This is true.
Speaker 8: That is true.
Speaker 6: That is true, Steve. He's only one of us has
Speaker 6: perfect attendance. Other than no, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I wasn't technically there for this picnic. Oh.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you showed up a little bit
Speaker 2: in and out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I showed up. But you know you
Speaker 1: do that attendance and everything. Yeah, okay, well I'll make
Speaker 1: sure you get it. The first step and everything is
Speaker 1: showing up.
Speaker 8: So we learned in elementary school.
Speaker 1: If necessarily hit me with this, I'm sorry. I forgot.
Speaker 1: Forgive me, y'all.
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Speaker 9: Anyway, Today I love this show already.
Speaker 1: Today we got singing song writer producer Los Angeles Nate
Speaker 1: Still Los Angeles name correct. Okay, is everything fine? You know,
Speaker 1: because I think.
Speaker 9: I mean, there's a big fire going on right I'm
Speaker 9: saying some of the homies have had to evacuate.
Speaker 1: But are you fine at the moment?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm fine.
Speaker 1: Okay, My life is my house is yeah, yeah, okay good.
Speaker 1: Just want to be sure. Uh, the Lineage Royalty, we
Speaker 1: have a Todd Dallas sign in the house Today, he's
Speaker 1: going to talk about his life journey for making on
Speaker 1: the ground mixtapes to singing over some of the notableducers
Speaker 1: that we all love on the show, Matt Lib, Black Milk, Dylan,
Speaker 1: even even with I created a partner as one of
Speaker 1: my fate. Oh my god, it's almost ten years and
Speaker 1: really that's almost half old school when something is not?
Speaker 1: Is this a classic? Now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess fifteen years of old school? You know what,
Speaker 6: know the way music moves now, like five years is
Speaker 6: damn in old school.
Speaker 8: I mean it's you probably got to ask the youngest
Speaker 8: one in the room about that. Would you say to
Speaker 8: what's man?
Speaker 9: The way the way my little homies is talking three
Speaker 9: years is old.
Speaker 1: That sounds about right true anyway, you know.
Speaker 9: Like you're you're the o G homie.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 1: And right now he's here promoting his latest effort, Beach
Speaker 1: House three, and we would like to welcome Ty Donalds.
Speaker 1: Signed the question Man, happy.
Speaker 9: To be here, happy to be in all of your presence.
Speaker 1: Coming're happy to happy, We're happy to have you for sure.
Speaker 9: So yeah, Beach House three is out one of my
Speaker 9: favorite projects up to date. I got John Mayrow on
Speaker 9: my project. Man that's like a big life goal for me.
Speaker 9: One of my favorite musicians out there, you know. And
Speaker 9: uh my next project, I'm gonna have quest love You
Speaker 9: feel me putting that absolutely?
Speaker 1: Why not? You don't have to put it out.
Speaker 9: It was work.
Speaker 1: I'm down. We only worked one. Well, you came on
Speaker 1: the show once, uh what like twenty thirteen, I think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you came through.
Speaker 11: That was the first time you've been on National TV
Speaker 11: on foul remember my first time together.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Man, the work time to getting that lab though.
Speaker 1: So you're all right. So you were born in Los Angeles.
Speaker 9: I was born in Los Angeles, raised in Los Angeles.
Speaker 9: I'm not like like when people come to l A
Speaker 9: and they have like bad things to say about l A.
Speaker 9: I feel like, you know what y'all have been like
Speaker 9: on the other side of Wilshire, like meaning Hollywood and
Speaker 9: like you know, like where all the out of towners
Speaker 9: be at. Like I'm talking about the other side of Wilshire,
Speaker 9: like the real LA That's where I'm from. You know,
Speaker 9: it's a good Inglewood south Central like Midtown like Inglewood,
Speaker 9: like Compton, like Long Beach, like.
Speaker 1: So what do you what would you consider what would
Speaker 1: you consider Pasadena, Altadena.
Speaker 9: That's like, it's that's I mean, it's some homies from
Speaker 9: over there too. You know, you gotta you gotta a
Speaker 9: Pasadena guy in the in the booth right now, my
Speaker 9: security Brown.
Speaker 1: I'm quasi Pasadena. I probably did like two or three years.
Speaker 11: And when I as a kid as.
Speaker 1: Well, I was also three, So it's not much I
Speaker 1: think you needed it at that point. No, So it's
Speaker 1: if I don't know, like I'm one of these people
Speaker 1: that you know, because I'm in the industry and I
Speaker 1: have a lot of industry peeps, I will say that
Speaker 1: I think it's almost by default or fashionable for people
Speaker 1: to sort of disavow or disassociate themselves from LA. But
Speaker 1: for me, like I mean, whatever side you're on, either
Speaker 1: the hood side or the Hollywood side or whatever, there's
Speaker 1: always this thing of like, you know, LA is not real,
Speaker 1: it's superficial, it's fake and da da da da da.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'll say for myself, LA is like
Speaker 1: probably one of four places that I still get excited
Speaker 1: to go to. You know, Like now that I live
Speaker 1: in New York, it's like I live here, so the
Speaker 1: mystery's going up. Oh I'm going to New York. That
Speaker 1: used to be a thing coming from Philly. But for me,
Speaker 1: I've always loved everything about going to LA and never
Speaker 1: understood people that were sort of like cao whatever about it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it depends on where you're from.
Speaker 11: That's why the song that you did about La that
Speaker 11: was like the perfect way to describe it, like the
Speaker 11: feeling like everything. But I think a lot of East
Speaker 11: Coast people sometimes they come to La feeling in some
Speaker 11: tipe of way because it moves slower.
Speaker 8: It's the opposite. It's kind of like the opposite.
Speaker 2: It's more laid back.
Speaker 6: Like one thing I wanted to ask you is I
Speaker 6: was talking This has been a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 6: I was talking to Terrys Martin and he was like, Yo, man,
Speaker 6: you gotta come to La. You gotta come out here.
Speaker 6: Like the air is different out here. That was the
Speaker 6: exact quote.
Speaker 2: He's like, Yo, the air is just different out here.
Speaker 2: You need to come and lit's get in.
Speaker 9: Like Creative is always going to give you one of
Speaker 9: them famous you know, terrorist quotes, legendary quotes. Yo.
Speaker 6: Man, that was his There is different, So like creatively,
Speaker 6: what is it for you?
Speaker 9: I mean for me, it's there like you said, it's
Speaker 9: just like when I'm here, it's one vibe. Actually, when
Speaker 9: I made that song La, it was here me and Kendrick.
Speaker 9: We both did up versus out here. But when you're
Speaker 9: out there, it's definitely like a different vibe that you get.
Speaker 8: The beach makes a difference too.
Speaker 9: For sure. For sure, even though all the studios ain't
Speaker 9: nowhere near to be right.
Speaker 1: So what do you what are your views on New York?
Speaker 1: Like when as an LA native, when you're traveling to
Speaker 1: New York or whatever.
Speaker 9: Do you it's the same exact feeling that you you said.
Speaker 9: I think like I'm excited. I can't wait to get
Speaker 9: out there and just touch the city. And you know,
Speaker 9: so you're the energy seven eight. I was out here,
Speaker 9: me and my boy Parker, and you know, I was
Speaker 9: like in the studios trying to, you know, see who
Speaker 9: I could get a beat placed on it. At that time,
Speaker 9: I was just doing a lot of beats and I
Speaker 9: sung and all that, but I wasn't like it was
Speaker 9: more so like focused focusing on beats and all that.
Speaker 9: And that didn't work out. So I ended up going
Speaker 9: back to l A mean, why g linked up? We
Speaker 9: made Toted and booted and then you know everything from there.
Speaker 1: So I guess you should be noted that your father
Speaker 1: as a member of Lakeside. Yeah, and like just growing
Speaker 1: up in that he was was he original member in the.
Speaker 9: Group, He was an original memory he came later when
Speaker 9: was his spirit all through the eighties, nineties, okay, two
Speaker 9: thousands so around Like I guess when Outrageous was Yeah
Speaker 9: by the time because he toured with that, Yeah it was, yes.
Speaker 1: Okay, So were you a backstage kid as far as.
Speaker 9: Like, yeah, for sure, backstage kids, studio kids.
Speaker 1: Just to sall that period, Like what were you seeing
Speaker 1: at in your formative young years.
Speaker 9: Young years coming up? Just you know Pops is, Homies,
Speaker 9: Earth Wind and fire Shallamar, all the people from back then.
Speaker 9: I remember them all, like you know, they would come
Speaker 9: to the house sometimes when they would throw parties whatever,
Speaker 9: studios you know. I remember like when when my homies
Speaker 9: around me started you know, smoking me or whatever. I
Speaker 9: remembered that smell from when I was young. I'm like,
Speaker 9: I always thought it was cigarettes because I'll see the
Speaker 9: little roaches, but like it wasn't. Yeah, out of that did.
Speaker 1: You have even as a young as in your young years,
Speaker 1: Like did you have any desires to get into music
Speaker 1: or you just.
Speaker 9: Observed, like I was just observing really, but like hearing
Speaker 9: like them figure out songs and like, uh, you know,
Speaker 9: writing songs together, and then me going and touching the
Speaker 9: piano or touching the guitar and being being able to
Speaker 9: like play that same melody that I just heard by ear.
Speaker 9: I was like to start. And once I figured that out,
Speaker 9: then my pop's uh and to buy me an NPC,
Speaker 9: and then from there I got a in Sonic TS ten,
Speaker 9: and I learned how to MIDI and then I learned
Speaker 9: the uh, the ad ads and all that.
Speaker 1: Wow, when you started like ten, I'm gonna say that's
Speaker 1: a little unusual. Like, yeah, I just wanted a drum set.
Speaker 1: I didn't want a damn studio quick. Look.
Speaker 9: I always wanted the drum set. But they never would
Speaker 9: buy me the drum set, I guess because it was
Speaker 9: that made too much my mom's excuse. So you know,
Speaker 9: I wanted to be you.
Speaker 8: Bro diud you play right? You play drums?
Speaker 9: Yeah? I played drums, but like not like him, but
Speaker 9: I played drums.
Speaker 1: Though, So that's actually smart for parents to buy kids
Speaker 1: NPCs instead of drum kids headphones and stuff. Keep it
Speaker 1: real quiet in the house. See, my parents brought me
Speaker 1: drum set because they wanted to know I was envy
Speaker 1: basement monitoring. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 9: Like I met this other kid writer. His name was Troy,
Speaker 9: and his dad was and their brothers Johnson, and he
Speaker 9: knew how to make beats George Johnson.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So Troy taught me like what to do you
Speaker 9: know what I mean, from like young and then after
Speaker 9: that it just we went off.
Speaker 1: So growing up, like because we these are people that
Speaker 1: we idolized, Like is this I mean everyone always says like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're just dad to me, You're not like like did
Speaker 1: you really that your your particular situation was just a
Speaker 1: little bit different then your peers around the way or
Speaker 1: did that not phase you at all?
Speaker 9: I mean it's great like everything.
Speaker 1: Like how do your friends, I'm sorry, how do you
Speaker 1: how do your friends at least in that in that
Speaker 1: time of your life? How do they accept your existence?
Speaker 1: Like because you're experiencing things that they don't. You get
Speaker 1: to meet.
Speaker 9: Yeah, like people like you know, friends from the neighborhood
Speaker 9: would think it was like cool and all that, but like,
Speaker 9: really I used to want to keep it separate, so
Speaker 9: people wouldn't like, uh, I think it's kind of like
Speaker 9: what my daughter goes through now. If I if I
Speaker 9: go to her school and she doesn't want me to
Speaker 9: like get out and you know, come get her like that,
Speaker 9: because everybody would be like, oh, she's a teenager twelve now,
Speaker 9: so like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, like it's crazy.
Speaker 10: So you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: And she's in middle school, so if I get out,
Speaker 9: then all the kids will come running like, oh, let
Speaker 9: me get a picture of time dollars sign, and then
Speaker 9: she doesn't get to like, you know, being at school.
Speaker 9: So I never wanted people to you know, know about
Speaker 9: that really or like you know, be around me for that.
Speaker 9: So that's how that was.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, what kind of car
Speaker 1: are you pulling up? Pulling up to the school.
Speaker 9: I've been blessed. I like to take my I like
Speaker 9: to take my driver mad up there in the suburban
Speaker 9: and uh oh.
Speaker 2: No, a suburban is pretty I like to take.
Speaker 9: I got to give them respect, you know, shout out
Speaker 9: to mat.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you pull up in a f animal some shit,
Speaker 6: and the it's like I'm looking for attention.
Speaker 2: But the suburban is that's pretty standard.
Speaker 11: Twelve year old daughter changes everything, not even just like
Speaker 11: that whole aspect. I'm just thinking it's just in twenty
Speaker 11: seventeen having the door to being Tied Dollar Sign.
Speaker 8: It's like you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 9: She listened to like over the last two years. Like
Speaker 9: then it started getting real like after ten, like where
Speaker 9: it's like, okay, she's got the phone. I'm like, play
Speaker 9: your music, play whatever you want to play, just hoping
Speaker 9: the play put whatever you're listening to on and like
Speaker 9: I can tell she's like, yeah, she's getting there. So
Speaker 9: I'm like, wow, I like that song you put out, Dad,
Speaker 9: I like that new song. Oh I like that Okay okay.
Speaker 9: So's when three came, it was like all right, I'm
Speaker 9: not gonna like the studio you have. You have like yes, Snapchat,
Speaker 9: Oh she has a Snapchat Okay, so I gotta like,
Speaker 9: you know, she doesn't have an Insta yet. So I
Speaker 9: got like, I don't know how much more time I got.
Speaker 5: Old.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you guys will you guys will be saying much
Speaker 9: more Dad, my bio Tied.
Speaker 6: Dollar Radio Edits so like as a kid, it's gonna
Speaker 6: get better, though, I promise you so I would be
Speaker 6: one thing I would to ask you is as a kid,
Speaker 6: So it was your pops. He was he played, he
Speaker 6: was played with Lakeside, it's your mom. Does she have
Speaker 6: any musical talent?
Speaker 9: She doesn't do music at all. And then of course
Speaker 9: after pops and moms broke up, she didn't want me
Speaker 9: to do music. Grandpaps didn't want me to do music.
Speaker 9: Nobody from that side was like a fan of the music. So,
Speaker 9: you know, when when life started to happen more and
Speaker 9: I started to feel like, you know, I know everything,
Speaker 9: and you know I could do everything on my own.
Speaker 9: You know, I was like in the back of my
Speaker 9: grandmother's crib on my dad's side, you know, working and
Speaker 9: shout out to her because her birthday's coming up this weekend,
Speaker 9: and you know, everybody in the family's texting me. And
Speaker 9: I even go on Instagram Live earlier and one of
Speaker 9: my cousins gets on there like, yo, are you coming
Speaker 9: this week? Like what like my grandmama birthday? You already
Speaker 9: know I'm gonna be there, like the whole family going.
Speaker 9: She's about to be ninety two.
Speaker 1: So so you're still close to your family.
Speaker 9: Hell yeah, man?
Speaker 1: Is it slightly different though, it's.
Speaker 9: Slightly different for sure, like you know with certain people,
Speaker 9: but like the real ones, like yeah, the immediate family
Speaker 9: is always regular good adjustment.
Speaker 6: Like new cousins like rights get new on you, old
Speaker 6: cousins getting new on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you know, like how do you how do
Speaker 1: you adjust to that? Because that's one of the I
Speaker 1: feel like that's one of the hardest transitions that one
Speaker 1: can go through when you're like in an isolated situation
Speaker 1: and you get meteoric success and then yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: it's our thing, right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've learned with like all issues. I'll like, just
Speaker 9: if I really, really, you know, mess with you, I'll
Speaker 9: give you a couple of explanations if it takes that
Speaker 9: many times, and then I'll just go quiet for a
Speaker 9: minute to let you figure it out yourself. And it
Speaker 9: seems it's been working pretty well. Get it people like
Speaker 9: ended up figuring it out. You know, it's meant to be.
Speaker 1: As I had to. Sorry, I feel certain way.
Speaker 8: I just got this.
Speaker 11: Sorry, Hey did your mother when did she turn the
Speaker 11: cheek and go you know what?
Speaker 10: Son?
Speaker 8: You may have something with this.
Speaker 9: When you know I came back at her and no, no,
Speaker 9: she's always like supported me. She just wanted me to
Speaker 9: figure it out. But it was definitely that time where
Speaker 9: she was like, yo, so you know your videos out,
Speaker 9: your songs on the radio, but where's the money?
Speaker 8: My mom? I just had ton, but.
Speaker 9: You know, she was just asking where it is. She
Speaker 9: just always cares for sure. She wants to see make
Speaker 9: sure I'm on the right path. And I wasted my time.
Speaker 9: So I figured it out and it just took you know, consistency,
Speaker 9: and we met. It happen.
Speaker 2: What was the How did you and Corey link up?
Speaker 9: Corey? Me and Corey linked up through this random dude
Speaker 9: that I met at the Guitar Center name et Cetera,
Speaker 9: and et Cetera heard me playing bass and he was like, yo,
Speaker 9: I made music too. I got some I want to
Speaker 9: play you and we went outside and it was like
Speaker 9: some rap music and it was dope. He was from
Speaker 9: New York and and I told him I would come
Speaker 9: out here because I met somebody online that I was
Speaker 9: going to sell a be two at the time, and
Speaker 9: I ended up coming out here. I linked up with
Speaker 9: him and when I went to his crib, it was
Speaker 9: in bedstide and Corey was in the living room and
Speaker 9: he was making music on the laptop or whatever at
Speaker 9: the time, the desktop at the time, and he sounded
Speaker 9: like Raphael sa Dik a little bit like I had
Speaker 9: a little vibe to him, and I'm like, oh, that's
Speaker 9: kind of crazy, Let's make a song. We end up
Speaker 9: making like three songs that same day right there, and
Speaker 9: then we met back up at the sun Dance Film
Speaker 9: Festival in Utah because I was like doing some music
Speaker 9: for some little film at the time, and we ended
Speaker 9: up linking up at this dude Parker's crib, which Parker
Speaker 9: became my best friend and he still lives with me
Speaker 9: right now. It's crazy, but me and Corey ended up
Speaker 9: making like a whole little project in a week at
Speaker 9: this dude Parker's crib and it was called Ron Banging one.
Speaker 9: And we made ron Banging too, and ended up linking
Speaker 9: with who I Am in Timberlake and made a little
Speaker 9: situation and met all these different people and that's all
Speaker 9: that did. And then I ended up going back to
Speaker 9: LA that's at the time when I was living in
Speaker 9: New York too. Then I ended up going back in
Speaker 9: LA and you know, end up going back to my
Speaker 9: hood just you know, making beats and you know, making
Speaker 9: songs for homies around the neighborhood. And my big homie
Speaker 9: from my hood was like, yo, I'm managing this new
Speaker 9: little dude. I think you should mess with him. He
Speaker 9: got compted on lock and all that. I'm like, all right.
Speaker 9: So I listened to it and it's this like jerk music,
Speaker 9: and it's like, I don't know, bro, like that's not
Speaker 9: what I'm on like, but he's like, bro, I promise you.
Speaker 9: He brings them to the house and I make this
Speaker 9: beat and instituted and booty beat, and I had sampled
Speaker 9: the group called the I can't think of it right now.
Speaker 9: I just sampled this record. My homie Cords just pulled
Speaker 9: it out and like I sampled it and did the
Speaker 9: little drums, and he came in. I mean my other
Speaker 9: cousin TC forty eight hundred little TC that's out there.
Speaker 9: Him and Nana was like, make a song called Tutor
Speaker 9: and boodh. I'm like, what does that mean? They like
Speaker 9: hit it and go. I'm like all right, So I
Speaker 9: just come up with the hook and YG does his verse,
Speaker 9: TC does his verse. We make a video with the
Speaker 9: homie h.
Speaker 1: James right, James Followoyd.
Speaker 9: Nah by James fo Roy, my other homie James. And
Speaker 9: right now, James is like an actor and all that,
Speaker 9: but at that at the time, like he was shooting
Speaker 9: videos and all that and uh like on this old
Speaker 9: cheap camera. So we went to dark Waller Beach shot
Speaker 9: the video. It came out tie dollar sign feature on
Speaker 9: YG and TC forty. Next thing, you know, there was
Speaker 9: a MENI views up there like in a month and
Speaker 9: then Depth Jam starts calling and they're like, yo, we
Speaker 9: want to sign y G. I'm like, all right, let's
Speaker 9: get it. Like however, however is supposed to come, Like,
Speaker 9: let's get it, and of course they wanted Tutor and
Speaker 9: Buddha is the single and I'm like cool, so we're
Speaker 9: gonna do a reshoot of the video. Right. It's with
Speaker 9: Colin Tilly who.
Speaker 1: Came came from Jam. You know Max cous Okay.
Speaker 9: Yeah, shout out to Max. So, uh, this dude, Colin,
Speaker 9: Colin Tilly is shooting the videos like his first video,
Speaker 9: like right before he got huge. He's like one of
Speaker 9: the biggest directors out there now. Right, and the video
Speaker 9: drops and it says YG tutored and Booty I am
Speaker 9: in the video. But it says nothing about tie dollar sign, right,
Speaker 9: So I'm like, all right, cool, like it's time to
Speaker 9: keep on. That's what my mom's talking talking that like
Speaker 9: yeah everywhere, like where's the money? Next thing? You know,
Speaker 9: the guy who I produced with a lot, his name
Speaker 9: is Jacasso. He ends up getting killed. And when he
Speaker 9: got killed, that like made me just like not even
Speaker 9: want to do beats no more. I was just discouraged
Speaker 9: from life, Like I felt like why him out of everybody,
Speaker 9: was like one of the best people I know on earth.
Speaker 9: So you know, YG's doing shows and he's having me
Speaker 9: come through and we started like making money. So he's
Speaker 9: getting ten thousand to come perform at little, you know,
Speaker 9: little clubs in LA. He'll give me four hundred dollars
Speaker 9: for coming to do the hook. He'll get wanted. J
Speaker 9: Mustle doesn't do beats at this time either.
Speaker 1: And you knew Master pre beats.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he was just like the DJ from you know,
Speaker 9: like the little homie that dj His uncle DJ T
Speaker 9: was the one who was DJing during our high school period,
Speaker 9: like you know, when I went to Dorty for a second.
Speaker 9: And it's crazy because now like you know, his nephew's
Speaker 9: DJing or whatever. So we have him, and you know,
Speaker 9: Jacazo gets killed. They need somebody because like now def
Speaker 9: jam sign YG and I'm not trying to do the
Speaker 9: beats no more. And Muster comes to and he's like, yo,
Speaker 9: let me get some sounds, like because he's watching me
Speaker 9: the whole time, and I'm not even like paying attention
Speaker 9: that he's watching, but yeah, I give him the sounds.
Speaker 9: And he's linked up with this other dude, Mike Free,
Speaker 9: and he knows how to work reason, so he's teaching
Speaker 9: Mustard how to work reason. And you know, next thing,
Speaker 9: you know, Mustard pulls up on me on the bread
Speaker 9: in twenty first, like a month later, like I'm about
Speaker 9: to pass you up on these beats. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 9: all right.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to marinate on that. Like I'm thinking, like
Speaker 1: in my head, because I've only talked to Mustard once,
Speaker 1: but in my head, I'm thinking like it's just like
Speaker 1: Dexter in the lab, like some science lab, like he's
Speaker 1: going to revolutionize and and all this stuff, and you're
Speaker 1: just like he just picked it up one day and.
Speaker 9: Yeah, like seriously though, like I gave him these sounds
Speaker 9: and then he made Rack City and after rack City.
Speaker 9: It was like two chains, I'm different and it was
Speaker 9: like Whygi's hod tape and like.
Speaker 1: So those are all your patches?
Speaker 9: Yeah man, and my brother nade millions off of it
Speaker 9: and with the stars on the cylind shout out to Mustard. Man.
Speaker 9: It was so good to just see like somebody like
Speaker 9: go from the guy that's like joking about moms and
Speaker 9: you know, shooting dice and just being like a young
Speaker 9: asshole and to turn it into like, you know, a
Speaker 9: super millionaire and like Mustard y g all of all
Speaker 9: of us, like we all just like you know, it's
Speaker 9: just like where my mom's crib and making songs in
Speaker 9: that back room and then all of a sudden, like
Speaker 9: we're all like we all got our own cribs.
Speaker 1: You know what we all got to say?
Speaker 2: What was your weapon of choice? In terms of production?
Speaker 9: MP and uh I ended up getting all the keyboards
Speaker 9: bogs to which MP two thousand xcel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's when you got this. People still make
Speaker 1: fun of me for not letting go of that, but
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 9: I love it and I still use it. You still, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Hang on, like James Poison, hear that it's still usable Anywayrette.
Speaker 9: And what else fruity loops? I like foody loops. Now
Speaker 9: you still use fruity Yeah. Sometimes, like if I'm on
Speaker 9: the plane and I just have my laptop and I
Speaker 9: feel like making music and not watching the movie, which
Speaker 9: I'm not like a TV movie watcher guy like that,
Speaker 9: unless I'm like.
Speaker 1: Gotta be productive.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Productive. Wait, So as okay, forget my ignorance. I would
Speaker 1: assume that fruity Loops has updated since the days of
Speaker 1: Little Brother, right.
Speaker 2: I think so the last time, nine, oh, thank you
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, nine, he sent me a bat. I mean, this
Speaker 6: has been God. This was like twenty thirteen fourteen. He
Speaker 6: had went back on fruity loops because for a while
Speaker 6: Knife was using the MP. He left and he went back,
Speaker 6: he went to the MP. Then he went back to
Speaker 6: fruity loops, and so he had sent me a fruity
Speaker 6: some fruit loops batch. And now I think he's strictly
Speaker 6: on machine. That machine is kind of like what everybody is.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's the thing now, which is kind of
Speaker 6: it emulates the MP a lot, But that's I think
Speaker 6: that's what he's on now. But I think, yeah, the
Speaker 6: interface has updated a lot.
Speaker 1: Oh two.
Speaker 6: I mean when we were doing it on a compact,
Speaker 6: I mean shit, I would hope this shit didn't upgraded
Speaker 6: since then.
Speaker 1: So you so and in making beats? Who were you
Speaker 1: looking up to when you were well? First of all, when.
Speaker 9: I was looking up to Dyla, I was looking up
Speaker 9: to Mad Live East Swift from the alcoholicst. I was
Speaker 9: looking looking up to Black Milk, Doctor Dre Dads, Dillinger.
Speaker 9: There's so many people, man, did.
Speaker 1: You ever get to meet and idolized to.
Speaker 9: Damn all of them? Except for Mad that I talked
Speaker 9: to him on the phone and we were supposed to
Speaker 9: link and then the day came and then he didn't answer.
Speaker 1: That's cool, he just he goes, I want to work
Speaker 1: with him one day, and like he's probably one of
Speaker 1: my favorite ever.
Speaker 9: Well, like yeah, everybody, I've been meeting him and it's
Speaker 9: been a blessed So.
Speaker 1: You are a real head or to the boom?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, I like all kinds of music though, for sure.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I mean, what's your childhood recollection looking
Speaker 1: like compared to now? Which is more playless base?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Everything I said, plus like you know, the singing
Speaker 9: is the singing and stuff as well. One of my
Speaker 9: favorite singers ever Stokely.
Speaker 1: From in Condition Still.
Speaker 9: I like a lot of gospel. I like Kim Barell,
Speaker 9: that's my favorite female singer ever. I played in church.
Speaker 9: I played bass, and like I was learning watching everybody,
Speaker 9: what was that that you did? Like on the keys?
Speaker 9: What was that chord on the order?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 9: Then watching the choir director and how they like, you know,
Speaker 9: come up with these harmonies and give them to people,
Speaker 9: and like that's how like I do my harmonies when
Speaker 9: I'm singing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's really an underrated part about you.
Speaker 6: I really dig your vocal arrangers mans dope.
Speaker 9: So I definitely studied like everywhere I went and like
Speaker 9: picked up something.
Speaker 6: And all your music like your self taught like you
Speaker 6: never took formal lessons on any of the instruments.
Speaker 9: No, not really. I did take like a class in
Speaker 9: the ninth grade, like just piano, and it really to
Speaker 9: me it was just like, Okay, now I know how
Speaker 9: to read a little bit, but I can figure it
Speaker 9: out anyway, so it's not going to really.
Speaker 8: I love your answer. When I asked Ty what instrum?
Speaker 8: How many instruments does he play?
Speaker 11: He was like well, if it has strings and you.
Speaker 8: Know, you can play it with some sticks, and what
Speaker 8: was the other one that you said? It's keys and keys.
Speaker 2: I'm hitting it.
Speaker 9: Exactly.
Speaker 8: Did you guys ever get to me because I know
Speaker 8: he's like one of.
Speaker 9: Your I shook his hair one time at a party
Speaker 9: late night in LA And then one time I went
Speaker 9: to the Saturday Night Live after party with Yay and
Speaker 9: all of a sudden, Prince hoped on You were DJing
Speaker 9: that night, and all of a sudden, Prince hoped on
Speaker 9: stage and Taylor Swift right.
Speaker 1: What ye not? Taylor? I'm trying to who was it, Yike,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to.
Speaker 8: Age it was a lot of Prince parties.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I know. Oh at
Speaker 1: the forty forty? You at the forty Yeah?
Speaker 8: Is that like the forty four?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: We need Okay, No, No Saturday Night Live, because in
Speaker 1: my mind I was like, oh God, he thinks I'm
Speaker 1: someone else I know, and I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: this does sound familiar. No, Saturday Night Live had their
Speaker 1: fortieth anniversary and that's why, you know what's weird because
Speaker 1: the freaking NBA All Star Game was the same day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I planned on going to the Saturday Night Live
Speaker 1: fortieth Anniversary special. Yeah, but I also had the dj
Speaker 1: the NBA All Star thing at New York, so I did,
Speaker 1: like up until halftime, I had to DJ something and
Speaker 1: then run to thirty Rocks. So I totally missed the
Speaker 1: fact that Kanye was the musical guests at SNL forty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do he was on his back? I forgot what
Speaker 1: song he performed wolves? Was it Wolf? Yeah? Again, he
Speaker 1: did wolve. He laid on his Yeah, he did something
Speaker 1: where he laid on the ground. Okay, yeah, I came
Speaker 1: in like right when I was getting getting done, but
Speaker 1: I totally forgot that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was my only time ever getting to see
Speaker 9: him perform, but he just got on. I think was
Speaker 9: that random or was that planned?
Speaker 1: Oh? That was super random, Like everything that happened that night,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that. Yeah, okay, people just ghosted
Speaker 1: and ghost out, but no, none, none of it was planned.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that that night was super magical. Like Prince basically,
Speaker 1: Jimmy just said I think Dave Chappelle, WHI spining Jimmy's air,
Speaker 1: Like I think I just saw Prince walked in and
Speaker 1: it was just like I think he just walked in
Speaker 1: and they willed it and then Prince like floated to
Speaker 1: the stage. He just floated to the stage. He did
Speaker 1: Let's Go Crazy for ten minutes and then floated out
Speaker 1: of there just as quick as he came in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, how did you the connection with Sarah come about?
Speaker 6: Because you because the end of joint like, that's I mean,
Speaker 6: I love that record.
Speaker 9: I appreciate it so chords Mahomie. He was like, uh,
Speaker 9: he played it for me one day and then I
Speaker 9: ended up meeting them through Steve Thundercat and uh, we
Speaker 9: just went over to the Saurah House that was like
Speaker 9: up in Silver Lake and we just vibed and we
Speaker 9: just kept on making like song after song after song
Speaker 9: Me Shafique tass O Mas and they end up using
Speaker 9: those two and as many those are just the big homies.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 9: They just taught me a lot.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: They took me on my first Europe run. That was
Speaker 9: how I first met year.
Speaker 2: Was that where they took the picture.
Speaker 9: And that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 11: You've been in some situations that make you go I mean,
Speaker 11: even though you were born into you know, musical royalty,
Speaker 11: at some point you got to look around and go whoa, Yeah,
Speaker 11: it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The thing I know is about your journey.
Speaker 6: Like for you, you say that you were mainly focused
Speaker 6: on making beats. When did it become clear to you
Speaker 6: that you're singing really was the thing.
Speaker 1: I guess that was gonna take you on top.
Speaker 9: I just had to get confident in it. Uh that
Speaker 9: one situation to get back to it. When Ygi got
Speaker 9: his first like ten bands and gave me four and
Speaker 9: gave Musty four and I saw him walk away with
Speaker 9: the rest of that money, it did something to me.
Speaker 9: You know. I felt like, all right, it's time to
Speaker 9: like get out here and like figure it out and
Speaker 9: do my own artist thing. So I put out The
Speaker 9: House on the Hill, which was my first solo tape,
Speaker 9: and that had this song called All Star Wars. My
Speaker 9: homie Fuego had sampled Swedish House Mafia and we flipped
Speaker 9: it on some like la like drums and you know,
Speaker 9: tempo or whatever, and I did a straight smash to
Speaker 9: it and it took off like on the radio stations
Speaker 9: like from you know, the whole California, Arizona, moving on
Speaker 9: to Texas, and then it got shut down. We got
Speaker 9: sued for putting it on iTunes without clearing it with
Speaker 9: Swedish house Mafia, which I thought it was clear, but
Speaker 9: somebody lied.
Speaker 1: And you know, I was going to say, how are
Speaker 1: you able to move mixtape stuff to mainstream radio level on?
Speaker 9: Because I already had tutored and booted and already had
Speaker 9: by this time, already had all the DJs now because
Speaker 9: from tutor and Booted, I'm performing at all the any
Speaker 9: event whatever, we're there, like we're just pulling up to
Speaker 9: make them everybody.
Speaker 1: Who's your who's your god? Like when when when you
Speaker 1: when you got a new jowin that you're ready to
Speaker 1: yeah put out? I mean now it's different because you're
Speaker 1: an established you know, who's the person.
Speaker 9: For l A? Like who who? I always tell everyone,
Speaker 9: like who changed it for us? And like who gave
Speaker 9: us another chance? Because when you look at it, like
Speaker 9: after the game, there was no l A. You know
Speaker 9: what I'm saying on radio period. So DJ Charisma my
Speaker 9: homegirl out there, she is the one, like who got
Speaker 9: like everybody's music played. I feel like shout out to
Speaker 9: everybody else, but definitely DJ Charisma, He's.
Speaker 1: The one who did it for She's the one who
Speaker 1: different everybody. So that's important to you for LA just
Speaker 1: still have an identity, to still have a sound, to
Speaker 1: still have a figurehead representing because I just feel like, now,
Speaker 1: you know, between at least for my prime era where
Speaker 1: it was dangerous, between nine and no, it was life
Speaker 1: ThReD and you know, it's like east coast, West coast,
Speaker 1: you know, and then suddenly, you know, after after two
Speaker 1: thousand and two, just stop being so regional. And I
Speaker 1: know that the game's arrival. Yeah, the the Internet made
Speaker 1: everything regional or not regional anymore, and so you know,
Speaker 1: I know that's why the game was really being celebrated
Speaker 1: because it was just like, okay, we're still you know,
Speaker 1: but for the generation that you represent, even though you're
Speaker 1: kind of more like heartwise because you came in so young,
Speaker 1: you're you're ahead on our level, but you also representing
Speaker 1: the next generation millennials or whatnot.
Speaker 12: Like.
Speaker 1: Is that still an important thing to have?
Speaker 9: Like yeah, I think it's important to be yourself wherever
Speaker 9: you're from and to definitely represent your sound and your
Speaker 9: people and like, no, we're not all the same just
Speaker 9: because the Internet is like no, like I ain't trying
Speaker 9: to hear that. Like if you come from New York.
Speaker 9: You're supposed to sound like you're from New York, Like,
Speaker 9: why would you sound like you're from l Atlantic because
Speaker 9: we all have the Internet or Atlanta. That's corny in
Speaker 9: the streets.
Speaker 1: I was happy because at least for when you came out,
Speaker 1: I was shocked that. I mean, your your your first
Speaker 1: major single was like ninety eight beats per minute, which
Speaker 1: as a deep you know, just during the period between
Speaker 1: like two thousand and six and kind of now, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, everything was you know, trap level seventy b
Speaker 1: pre pms and slower, and so I felt like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're defiantly going against what mainstream expectations are and you're
Speaker 1: keeping it at that level. I mean, I'm just at
Speaker 1: a place where it's like ninety five to one hundred
Speaker 1: and ten.
Speaker 6: By like cookout jams, like it's like you get two
Speaker 6: step two it.
Speaker 1: It was. It was actually danceable, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's always been you know. I guess like when
Speaker 9: you think about the LA sound, it would be doctor
Speaker 9: dre Quick, you know, when you think back back then
Speaker 9: and now for us, you know, we had to like
Speaker 9: when you're in the when you go to these LA parties,
Speaker 9: when you go to these Like I would say one
Speaker 9: of the things that runs the cultures to to this
Speaker 9: day has always been Timmy the Clown, right, and Tommy
Speaker 9: to Clown is like this guy that comes through with
Speaker 9: like this uh you know van or whatever and has
Speaker 9: speakers on it and these clowns get out and their
Speaker 9: clown dance. It's like everybody's music still yeah, still started
Speaker 9: when I was a kid, Like, hm, there's always been.
Speaker 8: Tommy the Clown going to parties out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Then wait then that that that ended up going into
Speaker 9: the what do you call that? The crump crumping and
Speaker 9: like they had a movie for it. Yeah, and if
Speaker 9: you pay attention, like they just speed up everything and
Speaker 9: like that's the LA sound. And then like even like
Speaker 9: the Bay, like their sound is the same thing, like
Speaker 9: sped up. Like, so that's where we come from. You
Speaker 9: there's that music too, you know.
Speaker 11: But it must make you proud R and B wise,
Speaker 11: because it feels like the West Coast are really taking
Speaker 11: chances with R and B. You know, between you Anderson,
Speaker 11: you mentioned Dundeecat, like do you feel that do you
Speaker 11: feel like an R and B and soul music?
Speaker 1: Did?
Speaker 11: Y'all are kind of doing things a little differently over there,
Speaker 11: and it's working.
Speaker 9: I feel like we're all doing different things. Anderson is
Speaker 9: a movie. Shout out, shout out to I'm so proud
Speaker 9: of like him and everything that he's doing. That he's
Speaker 9: sticking to his stuff, emon o'mari.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why, man, I love you. That's my bro.
Speaker 9: He's sticking to his stuff and like killing it so
Speaker 9: many people.
Speaker 1: Man. So as far as.
Speaker 9: The guy Miguel, shout out to, Miguel, the album is a.
Speaker 1: Movie, so how okay? So for the title R and B,
Speaker 1: which today is so blurred, I mean because you know,
Speaker 1: now even when Chris Brown is in the news and
Speaker 1: depends on which news wire is reporting rap star Chris Brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't say rapper Chris Brown, the pop star.
Speaker 9: After the next game last night to put rapper Tie
Speaker 9: Dollands on the screen.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I was going to ask, like, how,
Speaker 1: because I just feel that black culture has just gotten
Speaker 1: sort of golf defaulted into rap culture. Everybody's app Do
Speaker 1: you feel as though, even though I mean, your music
Speaker 1: is as edgy as you know it's it's so immersed
Speaker 1: in hip hop, but you're clearly singer, like do you
Speaker 1: still feel like you need to hold that flag for
Speaker 1: R and B or what it represents.
Speaker 9: Or is it just feel like I feel like there's
Speaker 9: real rappers out here and like they deserve to be
Speaker 9: like called rappers, not me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: I don't even deserve to be in that conversation. I
Speaker 9: sing for show for show, and I would love if
Speaker 9: people would just recognize that. But my boy, Rosenborg Rosenberg,
Speaker 9: he told me, he was like, Yo, your name is
Speaker 9: like kind of rap people.
Speaker 11: Real guy, and if you just take a picture and
Speaker 11: you're like R and B do no, he could be,
Speaker 11: he could be.
Speaker 1: You could be the way wigans two point Oh.
Speaker 9: Yeah, man, I was. I was coming out of this
Speaker 9: smoke shop the other day, this like old bald white dude,
Speaker 9: like he's bringing the boxes off of a truck and
Speaker 9: the trucks are like this juice. I'm like, yo, what's
Speaker 9: in there? Because it says Sangria but it looks like
Speaker 9: a kid's drink. He was like, nah, it is a
Speaker 9: kid's drink. It's just that's the company. I'm like, all right.
Speaker 9: He was like, you know what, you look like? You
Speaker 9: look like that star like them guys from the eighties
Speaker 9: that were singing that song that they weren't really singing,
Speaker 9: and he was talking about that they were singers, right,
Speaker 9: so I look they're like, look like.
Speaker 6: They actually put out another If we're really gonna they
Speaker 6: were would go off without a hitch today like it
Speaker 6: would be. Yeah, they died for.
Speaker 11: Us everything, Manny, Because I was gonna ask time, since
Speaker 11: everybody's doing the nineties thing, is it certain groups that
Speaker 11: you just don't touch? I was thinking was one of those,
Speaker 11: like musically since people are borrowing so much and you
Speaker 11: know you do what with.
Speaker 9: Jack because like I think my old manager calls he
Speaker 9: wrote that song for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had him on the show.
Speaker 6: He told us that whole story like crazy. He was
Speaker 6: like whull circle girl and the ship was on TV.
Speaker 1: The radio came on. He was in bed what you
Speaker 1: can man?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you like following U He was saying about
Speaker 6: the nineties. So on the I'm I'm tripping. I can't
Speaker 6: remember the temele, but that's the one you simple only
Speaker 6: you U?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, my new song on the X feature on
Speaker 9: Yeah Only by one twelve it's funny Bongo and hit maker.
Speaker 9: They they sent me this song and the beat it
Speaker 9: sounded like sounded like mustard, did it? You know what
Speaker 9: I mean. I'm like, bro, if I want a mustard.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, wait, all right, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad you said that because when I first got it,
Speaker 1: I was waiting for his tag, right because usually when
Speaker 1: I DJ, like when I DJ, I always go like
Speaker 1: two counts before mystle on the beat, and I was looking.
Speaker 1: I spent at least three minutes looking for the tag, like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe I missed it, Maybe I missed it. And then
Speaker 1: it just hit me, oh maybe he didn't do it. Man.
Speaker 9: So I'm like, you know, if I want a must beat,
Speaker 9: I'll go get a mustard beat, like I don't want it.
Speaker 9: But then I ended up, you know, according to it,
Speaker 9: and I started loving it. And then I'm like, all right,
Speaker 9: just take off the mustard drums, bro, Like, let's just
Speaker 9: bring back the original.
Speaker 1: Original joint, you know, a joint.
Speaker 6: And yeah, I'm curious about how because as someone that
Speaker 6: grew up in the nineties, I always thought of the
Speaker 6: nineties as an era where it's almost kind of like
Speaker 6: you had to be there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Like I just like KNW Jack swing as much as
Speaker 6: I loved it. I didn't think it translated into now,
Speaker 6: like you know what I mean, it's just like versus
Speaker 6: like the seventies when Castle sampling seventies, shit, I got it,
Speaker 6: when Castle sampling eighty shit, I got that. But the
Speaker 6: nineties just seemed like the most unlikely eraror to be sampled.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but like y'all, I'm doing.
Speaker 9: It like it's kind of hard to like sample it
Speaker 9: because the swing that's when they was using that word
Speaker 9: as like you said, Jack say, it's like a little
Speaker 9: Corney baseline exactly, So like that is not going to
Speaker 9: work right now, I don't think. But the hook melodies
Speaker 9: and like you know.
Speaker 2: So that's what is drawing people generation to it.
Speaker 11: Okay, the harmonies in my head, I'm okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 11: I got it now, Yeah.
Speaker 6: Because I heard you. I mean I was listening to
Speaker 6: it and I was like, he's singing over only you.
Speaker 6: But I'm like, man, like that's I never would have
Speaker 6: thought that that could be reappropriated into now. I mean,
Speaker 6: but I mean, the ship is dope.
Speaker 11: Though somebody will figure it out, I still appreciate the
Speaker 11: Jack didn I think I think I've read.
Speaker 1: At one point I didn't realize this that were you
Speaker 1: not almost going to sign which chea sounds uh. At
Speaker 1: the time, I think Dominic Trenier had a label he
Speaker 1: used to manage D'Angelo or someone associated with Venus Brown.
Speaker 1: Was he was part of that label or whatever? Like
Speaker 1: were you at not? At one point in the Okay,
Speaker 1: then there was.
Speaker 6: A rumor yeah, yeah, I was curious to know. So,
Speaker 6: I mean, because you kind of cover a lot of
Speaker 6: ground in genres, So how did you decide on Well,
Speaker 6: first of all, how did you and whiz Lin c
Speaker 6: Cup and how did you decide on the label that
Speaker 6: could say, Okay, this kid does this, he does this,
Speaker 6: he does this, he does this. And they were like, Okay,
Speaker 6: we can figure out how to market this because I mean,
Speaker 6: you can do R and B, you can do hip hop,
Speaker 6: you can do like house or whatever.
Speaker 1: And for a.
Speaker 6: Lot of labels, whereas as a music fan, for us,
Speaker 6: that's like Wonderland, but for a label that shit can
Speaker 6: be a kiss of death.
Speaker 1: Say, like, what the fuck do we do with all this?
Speaker 9: So after after the House of the Hill, I go
Speaker 9: to death Jam back to Jeff Jam right, and at
Speaker 9: the time there's Karen Quack. I think Maxicu's just left,
Speaker 9: says Karen Quack. And there's Chris and Akute right and
Speaker 9: I played in my record and.
Speaker 2: You're playing Beach House.
Speaker 9: Beach House right right before I drop it, the first one. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I mean House on the Hill before I drop it.
Speaker 9: And they're like, Yo, it's incredible, it's dope. You got
Speaker 9: some crazy songs. But it's like, Yo, you got a
Speaker 9: house record here, you got you know this, you know
Speaker 9: slow song, you got this l a song here you got.
Speaker 9: It's like, you got so many things. Bring me back
Speaker 9: a project that's just like cohesive, like one thing, you know.
Speaker 9: So I go and make Beach House one. But when
Speaker 9: I make Beach House one, I I get cool with
Speaker 9: this dude, Sean Barn and Atlantic, and there's this one
Speaker 9: song that I didn't include on Beach House one, and
Speaker 9: it was called Fumble, and I end up giving, and
Speaker 9: since that song went and they ended up making a single,
Speaker 9: ended up going up. Atlantic was like, all right, you know,
Speaker 9: let's talk. So then I have Paranoid and you know
Speaker 9: or not, and everything went crazy. Beach House one, Beach
Speaker 9: House two. Okay, So Beach House one, Wiz calls he
Speaker 9: DMS me on the Twitter, and he's like, mind, you
Speaker 9: already met him through Terrace Martin during the after the
Speaker 9: time Corey days, but back to making beats, trying to
Speaker 9: figure it out. He hits me on the DM on
Speaker 9: Twitter and he's like, Yo, we've been playing Beach House
Speaker 9: one on this tour, the whole tour, meeting the guys.
Speaker 9: When I get back to La, let's work. He ends
Speaker 9: up coming back and we make like eleven songs in
Speaker 9: one night and.
Speaker 1: Uh twenty four hours, yeah, like less.
Speaker 9: Than twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: How do you work that test?
Speaker 9: Cuz like literally literally, like if you have a like
Speaker 9: a pack right now in your laptop and we put
Speaker 9: on the mic, I'm gonna just lay hook after hook
Speaker 9: after hook after hook after hook after hook after hook
Speaker 9: after then we're gonna come back. I'm gonna see which
Speaker 9: one is worthy of a you know, a verse, you know.
Speaker 1: And then so that's your songwriting process, Like you listen
Speaker 1: to the beat and then you'll concentrate on what the
Speaker 1: hook is first.
Speaker 9: Your hook or verse like whatever just comes out, like
Speaker 9: just put it on. I'm going there, just you know,
Speaker 9: blaze up and figure it out. And then some are great,
Speaker 9: some are good and worthy of like selling to a
Speaker 9: feature and.
Speaker 1: Are all right, give me so give me an example
Speaker 1: for a song like Paranoid. Yeah, you're first hearing the
Speaker 1: beat and you're just at a live mike.
Speaker 9: A Paranoid. That was like the third song I made
Speaker 9: on that beat. I knew that beat was so hard
Speaker 9: and like certain times you'll make a song that's just
Speaker 9: like whatever, but you feel like that beat is so
Speaker 9: crazy that I need to give it another, you know,
Speaker 9: another swing. And then I was like the third one
Speaker 9: I did on that and I just knew it.
Speaker 1: It felt like the beat felt epic enough that you
Speaker 1: had to put yeah.
Speaker 9: Like when I when then when that hook came, it
Speaker 9: reminded me of when I was a kid and I
Speaker 9: first heard like Poison by BBB. I felt like I
Speaker 9: tapped into the this is hard, but I'm singing you
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. Like it didn't feel R and B.
Speaker 9: It didn't feel like you had to feel like how
Speaker 9: when you say you look at me and it's like, yo,
Speaker 9: you look this way, but you're supposed to be R
Speaker 9: and B. Like I felt like, yeah, I can look
Speaker 9: like this and still sing and like be me.
Speaker 8: By the way that was me, I see whatever you
Speaker 8: want to be black man?
Speaker 1: So how long will you let the how many minutes
Speaker 1: or days or whatever will you let time go by
Speaker 1: before you're just like, it's not coming to me. Let
Speaker 1: me go to the next track.
Speaker 9: And then as soon as it's just as soon as
Speaker 9: it's not coming, then I go to the next track.
Speaker 9: That doesn't mean it's like not a good track, it's
Speaker 9: just just not right at that second, it just wasn't
Speaker 9: meant to be.
Speaker 8: That's what I felt, like, are we doing to order?
Speaker 11: I just had I have such a Horses in the
Speaker 11: Stable questions.
Speaker 1: Horses in the Stable? Yeah, okay, that's.
Speaker 2: A title you mean, oh the song?
Speaker 11: Okay, okay, yeah, the sight of the fact that, yeah,
Speaker 11: I thought, I know, sometimes get mad, we break the lineage.
Speaker 8: I know we was going beach house and keep going.
Speaker 11: But I have conversations because I was thinking at a
Speaker 11: random thought about horses in the stable and coming up
Speaker 11: with that, and I was thinking to myself on the
Speaker 11: back of the twelve year old daughter conversation, I was like,
Speaker 11: in twenty eighteen with horses in the stable still, so.
Speaker 9: What I've recorded is still now. The song is so great.
Speaker 9: You know what My Homegirl tis Hymen came at the
Speaker 9: end of the album cycle of GC and she was like,
Speaker 9: I got this song. I wrote it for you and
Speaker 9: I think, like you should record it. And I'm like, yo,
Speaker 9: I'm done.
Speaker 8: That's her, that's her song.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm like I'm done, Like but like, let me
Speaker 9: hear it. And she played it and it was so
Speaker 9: hard that they're mixing in the other room and I'm like,
Speaker 9: you know what, just get me a mic in here,
Speaker 9: and I go on the vocal booth, set up my
Speaker 9: laptop and like the little protuls and recorded it and
Speaker 9: like added my own little thing to it and it
Speaker 9: was it. I'm like, I'm putting it on the album,
Speaker 9: just like clear, get it clear, like however, and like
Speaker 9: they got it clear and it's one of my favorite songs.
Speaker 9: I think the people love it. But guess what. I
Speaker 9: walk in the main meeting at Atlantic to where it's
Speaker 9: like the three bosses are Craig Calman, Julie and Kaiser. So, Julie,
Speaker 9: what the are you referring to women as horse as.
Speaker 11: Listen because you don't know the songs like horses to
Speaker 11: the stable. But I can't ride, But you can't say
Speaker 11: you can't.
Speaker 9: Ride listen to it again. It's not like as bad
Speaker 9: as you think it is, like, but shout out to
Speaker 9: Julie and you know, Dalla is not a misogynist. Dollar
Speaker 9: does not hate women like I love women and like
Speaker 9: I love my daughter.
Speaker 8: It's weird.
Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of lasses with Julian's world
Speaker 1: famous for those.
Speaker 9: For that, you know.
Speaker 8: But it's a weird time though, right, because it's kind of.
Speaker 11: Like you're right, like especially now because it's an independent
Speaker 11: woman and everything. But I still like a good you know,
Speaker 11: n w A you know, don't matter, just don't bite
Speaker 11: it or whatever.
Speaker 8: So my head.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I roll like that's the song.
Speaker 1: That's all you've been that was that was.
Speaker 8: My go to it.
Speaker 11: It's all good, okay, the world's biggest I think it's
Speaker 11: just like a but you still want to make a.
Speaker 9: Culture thing like our songs, like like just on some
Speaker 9: you know, that's just how we'll be talking. It's nothing
Speaker 9: that bad. It is kind of bad, but exactly what.
Speaker 8: You learn because it is what it is. Culture is
Speaker 8: kind of like this.
Speaker 9: What you learn, like but a lot of people, yeah,
Speaker 9: it is, so that's cool though, I'm happy for the
Speaker 9: next chapter.
Speaker 1: Beach Out four, right, yeah, my sister.
Speaker 2: Man, please don't go hotep on Beach Out four.
Speaker 1: Please keep it.
Speaker 6: Ratchet hole tep down. You collaborated with on the stealing Joints.
Speaker 6: I mentioned it in my role call. But how did
Speaker 6: you record that because the vocals on it, it sounds
Speaker 6: like it was separate, yeah or what.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was separate. It sounds like
Speaker 2: you were just in an open room.
Speaker 9: And it's just this is one studio in Burdbank called
Speaker 9: Wayman sound don't steal my studio anyway, Wayman. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I think I've been at the studio.
Speaker 9: It's right there on Bird like nineteen oh eight, Burbank.
Speaker 1: I think I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 9: To get paid, but like it's a solo like one
Speaker 9: man's studio. Only one artist can be there in there
Speaker 9: at a time because there's only one room. And I
Speaker 9: like that because certain studios in LA, like people will
Speaker 9: find out you there because me, I don't even put
Speaker 9: my name on the door anymore. It just says private session.
Speaker 9: But people will find out you're in there and just
Speaker 9: feel entitled, like oh that's the yeah, Like I hate that.
Speaker 9: So now you know I have to pay for a
Speaker 9: security guard to be out there, which is booth Like.
Speaker 9: I don't have to spend that extra money for security
Speaker 9: standing out here. I'm not Michael nobody like that, but
Speaker 9: i have to because I like my privacy when I'm
Speaker 9: working so I can get things done, you know what
Speaker 9: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And is that you playing acoustic on that one?
Speaker 9: Nah? That Was's Homeboy who you know she originally made that.
Speaker 1: Song with Okay?
Speaker 2: And is that you on the or is that Babyface playing.
Speaker 9: Solid?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Gotcha, I'll let our audience know that. Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of considering. I mean, Tis is definitely going to
Speaker 1: play a major, major role in this next.
Speaker 9: Amazing. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean we did, we did. We did a good
Speaker 1: I mean we had like a mammoth five day like
Speaker 1: twenty four hour street just sleepover at Electric Ladies Studios
Speaker 1: like sometime last year, in which how many songs are
Speaker 1: on the hard drive like at least three hundred?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's like one hundred and twenty five like
Speaker 3: full songs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just mean sketches or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: another two hundred sketches or something. Yeah, so it's like
Speaker 1: three hundred total. But is definitely gonna you know, she
Speaker 1: will be a major presence. I love her.
Speaker 9: I love Gray, human being, great soul all that.
Speaker 11: Can we talk about you as you mentioned him, but
Speaker 11: you kind of did it fast and we actually interviewed
Speaker 11: baby Face and I asked him about doing a song
Speaker 11: with you because I just thought, WHOA, I was surprised,
Speaker 11: not you know, just not super surprised, but a pleasantly
Speaker 11: surprised on your side. How do you can you tell
Speaker 11: a story of that and where you're scary? You just
Speaker 11: was like, I want baby Face, and that's what it is.
Speaker 9: Yeah, man, the story of time Babyface is super legend.
Speaker 9: Did I came in? It was, you know, already set up.
Speaker 9: He's there by himself, him and his other boy, and
Speaker 9: then his other boy leaves and we're chilling like he's
Speaker 9: just playing guitar riffs. I'm like, that's dope, just freestyling.
Speaker 9: And who else is in there with me? I think
Speaker 9: my sister, my assistant at the time or whatever. So no, Nate, Nate,
Speaker 9: my homie, Nate Nate three D. So Nate's rolling up
Speaker 9: for me and I'm just freestyling and ship he passes
Speaker 9: me the joint I lighted all was setting me and
Speaker 9: face was just vib okay. That's the one. That's the
Speaker 9: one right there. He starts, he starts to play solid
Speaker 9: and I start coming up with the hook, and all
Speaker 9: of a sudden, his boy walks in and he's like, yo, yo, yo,
Speaker 9: y face, don't want you to smoke. He was like,
Speaker 9: you know, just come out here, come out here. I'm like,
Speaker 9: wait a minute, I'm sitting here in the man's face
Speaker 9: and he didn't saying nothing. So I'm like, how the
Speaker 9: fuck did he like sitting on this dude Like he
Speaker 9: had like telepathic powers or something.
Speaker 1: So he like sits on his left shoulder with a bad.
Speaker 9: Time, and like called him in there and he told
Speaker 9: me don't smoke. But that was cool, you know his
Speaker 9: face like all all respect, I just like had a
Speaker 9: non smoking session and the song came out cool.
Speaker 2: And he had nothing but great things to say about
Speaker 2: your inview.
Speaker 9: Yeah he's amazing. And then like he shouted up to
Speaker 9: the video in a stretched limo, what was this old?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like and y'all was in a desert now we.
Speaker 9: Was like by the beach somewhere like off of Ventura County.
Speaker 9: But like that was his only requirement to send him
Speaker 9: you know, stress straight face like.
Speaker 11: And it was never any thought to have him sing
Speaker 11: at all because I always thought that was interesting too, Like.
Speaker 9: I wanted him to, but he felt like I think
Speaker 9: he did backgrounds on there. He did, but he just
Speaker 9: wanted me to just do my thing. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 9: that's it. And I couldn't believe he was like loving
Speaker 9: my lines and he recorded me and everything like like
Speaker 9: I'm like trying to get him the vocal produce me
Speaker 9: and making a big face song, but he was just
Speaker 9: loving everything I did. So we got back in to
Speaker 9: work on Beach House three. I didn't end up using
Speaker 9: that song, but we're gonna get back in again. I
Speaker 9: love working with him, he loves working with me.
Speaker 2: How did the Jacketed session come about?
Speaker 9: The US jacket Edge? Straight up, I've known h jagget
Speaker 9: Edge through uh Me poond. Yeah, you're from at.
Speaker 8: I went to college, so.
Speaker 1: She's from every show. It's crazy.
Speaker 9: Yeah. So once I got that song done, there was
Speaker 9: just like one line that I said about Jagged Edge
Speaker 9: and you know, one of them on the song. So
Speaker 9: I called him just like to see if we can
Speaker 9: make it happen. And next thing you know, they sent it.
Speaker 8: Back like it was all their kids.
Speaker 11: Was like, Daddy, you gotta.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: I once read a friend of mine, she's interviewed a
Speaker 6: couple of times, re Becca Haye coach, she's right, La,
Speaker 6: And I read the joint you did with her. I
Speaker 6: guess it's maybe like years ago, but you were talking
Speaker 6: about how you understand your pops more now that you
Speaker 6: have a daughter. Yeah, what's that journey been like for you?
Speaker 6: Like your relationship with your dad as a.
Speaker 2: Kid, Like.
Speaker 9: Say, if your parents break up and mom's is always
Speaker 9: like talking down like you know everything wrong about him,
Speaker 9: and it just makes you hate him more and more
Speaker 9: and more and more and more. And then I have
Speaker 9: a daughter, and then the difference between me and her mother,
Speaker 9: like and everything she's saying, and I'm sure she's sang
Speaker 9: like all kinds of crazy stuff, but like, yet I've
Speaker 9: been able to hold a you know, cool relationship with
Speaker 9: my daughter. But just seeing that, I figured out, like, oh, okay,
Speaker 9: this is why I was like, you know, listening to her,
Speaker 9: it wasn't really like how it was between us. So
Speaker 9: that's why that's why I said that. But I was wrong,
Speaker 9: and my pops definitely is the reason why I'm here
Speaker 9: today and shout out to my Pops. I couldn't have
Speaker 9: done it without you.
Speaker 2: What's your relationship?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 9: We're great. He's always you know, put me onto different
Speaker 9: things he's into, and I'm putting him onto all the
Speaker 9: new stuff and any questions about you know, his you know,
Speaker 9: the old stuff, he can always be right there to answer.
Speaker 9: Like the other day, I was looking for that tonight
Speaker 9: is the night that Betty right, and I couldn't figure
Speaker 9: it out who it was and called him like, who's
Speaker 9: that song with that? What is that singing? I'm like,
Speaker 9: you know, want to be like good love, oh Betty right?
Speaker 9: Like see, so Pops is always there like for those
Speaker 9: moments and for you know, just being a dad.
Speaker 6: On your records, you got TC. So just to clarify,
Speaker 6: we were speaking offline like before. So little t C
Speaker 6: that's your cousin that is with you now, and then
Speaker 6: big TC that's your brother that's locked up. He's on well,
Speaker 6: he's on he's on campaign and he's on free he
Speaker 6: see as well.
Speaker 2: And that's him singing.
Speaker 1: How is he? First?
Speaker 2: Is he a older brother?
Speaker 1: Younger brother?
Speaker 2: He's younger? Did y'all? I don't know when he got Like,
Speaker 2: how did y'all ever clad when he was out?
Speaker 9: Yeah? We uh always like just sung around the house
Speaker 9: and like recorded songs together and like just tried to,
Speaker 9: you know, makee groups. He would have this thing. I
Speaker 9: would have my thing, and you know, when my parents
Speaker 9: broke up, he went his way. I went my way.
Speaker 9: And it's like, it's definitely important to who you hang around, man,
Speaker 9: because I felt like if he would have been hanging
Speaker 9: around the people I was hanging around, and I would
Speaker 9: have hang hanged around the people he was hanging around,
Speaker 9: it might.
Speaker 6: Have been you know, because he's a I mean, I
Speaker 6: really like his voice and super talented. Y'all sound like brothers,
Speaker 6: like he sounds like you. But y'all it's dope, Like
Speaker 6: it's y'all sound definitely like each other.
Speaker 9: He might be better than me, man, shout out to bro.
Speaker 12: Is getting worse before is getting better.
Speaker 9: It's like the.
Speaker 12: People got a curse. Can nobody stay together? I can
Speaker 12: get my people down. It's killing off each other. No,
Speaker 12: ain't no justice for the brothers.
Speaker 9: No, he's fighting a life Susans for something that he
Speaker 9: didn't do. So with free TC if if if anything
Speaker 9: you know, we rose awareness for sure around the world
Speaker 9: for the social injustice and everything that's going on. And
Speaker 9: like I said, I took every bit of the money
Speaker 9: I made for that project and put it back into
Speaker 9: his case. So God willing, you know, we're gonna get
Speaker 9: some results real soon. Uh d Lok, who was also
Speaker 9: featured on Free TC. He was right next you know,
Speaker 9: he was with my brother and he's out now he's
Speaker 9: out here with us. I started my label, the Movement,
Speaker 9: and I got d Look, I got TC, I got
Speaker 9: twenty four hours, I got Joe Moses, I got Tish
Speaker 9: and we are here.
Speaker 6: So the No Justice record was that and the autobiography
Speaker 6: is that? Like what happened with what he's singing and
Speaker 6: what you're singing?
Speaker 9: Yeah, we definitely suck up on it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I know you have to be sensitive
Speaker 6: about what you can say. But I was listening to it.
Speaker 6: I was like, hold up, do you know do you
Speaker 6: niggas sound like they telln't truth? It don't sound like
Speaker 6: just something a song, you know what I mean. I'm like,
Speaker 6: it sounds real.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Man, it was crazy. Like once I feel like
Speaker 9: once they get on you, they're just be on you
Speaker 9: and like they don't want to look stupid for being
Speaker 9: on you still figure out a way to like just
Speaker 9: make it solid, you know, without it even being solid,
Speaker 9: and he got, you know, put in the twist. But
Speaker 9: like I said, we're working on it, and God willing
Speaker 9: it's gonna happen. I swear we're working on it. That
Speaker 9: song is everything and free TC went gold finally, So
Speaker 9: shout out to Team Dollan and everybody that streamed it
Speaker 9: and bought it and hopefully purchase We're going to free TC.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the most important part running running a team. Now. Actually,
Speaker 1: I want to I want to bring this back to
Speaker 1: Sarah because I'll say that for me, one of the
Speaker 1: major most major disappointments I've ever had was watching their
Speaker 1: situation implode because for me, I always felt as though,
Speaker 1: UH tribes people people that move, people that move together
Speaker 1: UH can get to their destination faster than just individual artists.
Speaker 1: And if you look at the history, especially with hip hop,
Speaker 1: tribes move together. In other words, I mean Wu Tang Clan,
Speaker 1: you have to associate it with the individual artists method
Speaker 1: Man Redman, Yeah, like all of them as individual artists
Speaker 1: movement as a unit, and even for people that are
Speaker 1: not part of a movement necessarily, Like look at look
Speaker 1: at Puff's era. You might call the Jiggy era or whatever,
Speaker 1: but you still think of Flossie Rappers, you think of
Speaker 1: j you think of Puff, Fossy Kim like, and they
Speaker 1: all moved together the same with Native tongues, which was
Speaker 1: groups of groups tribe. They lost so old jungle brothers.
Speaker 1: And so when when Sarah came along, especially with them
Speaker 1: and their association with Jay Davey Georgia, Yeah, with Georgia
Speaker 1: Ann and all that stuff, I.
Speaker 9: Was like, I was just listening to Georgia like all
Speaker 9: Morning's amazing, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like for me, I was so elated
Speaker 1: because I was just like great, Like someone gets the
Speaker 1: whole like gathering of the tribes together and and move
Speaker 1: it along. And then like, I mean, I have my
Speaker 1: thoughts on why who I mean, I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: like my fear was that because when I saw their approach,
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, they're so fresh. But I also knew,
Speaker 1: you know, like post j there's well sweat well swagger
Speaker 1: Jack and sort of became legal in terms of I
Speaker 1: mean you could say swagger Jack or whatever, but like
Speaker 1: where you just drink someone's milkshake and you know, they fresh,
Speaker 1: let me, let me see what they got going on,
Speaker 1: and then you know what I'm saying. And for me,
Speaker 1: I was like, and I told them, I said, yo,
Speaker 1: just I went you all to concentrate that a lot
Speaker 1: of people are gonna look at y'all like, yo, y'all
Speaker 1: the new thing out. I want to be down. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be down. And I was like, just ignore it,
Speaker 1: get to the goal post first, and then branch start
Speaker 1: your associations and that bill and then kind of when
Speaker 1: Ya came along, I was afraid. I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid. And I called what happened. I called what happened,
Speaker 1: and it's like they got excited and then and that
Speaker 1: album for three years and then yeah, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say the same. Also with uh with with uh, well,
Speaker 1: what would have been the odd future movement and that
Speaker 1: whole thing. So watching that situation implode, first of all,
Speaker 1: how did that affect you?
Speaker 10: Really?
Speaker 1: Just like, uh, well, if that did, weren't, let me
Speaker 1: move on and you know, start my own thing, Like
Speaker 1: how do you keep your tribe and your family together
Speaker 1: and working and active?
Speaker 9: You see, like I've been through many tribes. Man, I've
Speaker 9: been through many tribes. I had to just keep on
Speaker 9: working when other people like give up and feel like,
Speaker 9: you know what, I put my all into this, I'm
Speaker 9: not about to do it again. Like I still have
Speaker 9: some more you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So now
Speaker 9: I found like the right drive, like the right team,
Speaker 9: and like that's that's important.
Speaker 6: Now because I mean your stuff, man, Like I want
Speaker 6: I was going to ask you was just like with
Speaker 6: the time Corey stuff, with that situation not working out.
Speaker 6: I know a lot of casts that would have called
Speaker 6: it quits right then, like because y'all were making some
Speaker 6: cool shit and a lot of times the thing that
Speaker 6: I want people to just I guess I kind of
Speaker 6: understand about your story. Like a big reason why we
Speaker 6: want to get you on the show is because I
Speaker 6: think like a lot of people don't really know it,
Speaker 6: Like they just see you as like the hit maker
Speaker 6: that where you are now, but they really don't know
Speaker 6: your grind. And like I remember the first time I
Speaker 6: played I played and diff for like a friend of
Speaker 6: mine and I'm like, yo, you know who that is?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: He's like I'm like, Yo, that's tied do I'm like, no,
Speaker 6: that's Todd. That was before he was who he is.
Speaker 6: But this has been a process. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: it's been it's been a grinds. It's really been a grind.
Speaker 1: So how did you not get discouraged to? Because I
Speaker 1: knew people now that even on their fifth attempt at
Speaker 1: climbing mountain they can't you.
Speaker 9: Know where I fucked up? Because like I put so
Speaker 9: much time into like doing music and learning music and
Speaker 9: only caring about music that that's like what I knew
Speaker 9: how to do, so that if I didn't do this,
Speaker 9: and it was like all right, okay, I'm selling weed
Speaker 9: and I'm doing all that, but like this doesn't really
Speaker 9: make me happy. I really have to kick it around
Speaker 9: these weirdos.
Speaker 1: Like like.
Speaker 9: You know, so I just stuck to this. And then
Speaker 9: once once YG's things started taking off, that was like
Speaker 9: so inspiring and then like all right, I don't want
Speaker 9: to make pizza anymore. Jacazo died then must have started
Speaker 9: taking off, and that was some inspiring. It's like, oh shit,
Speaker 9: we could do this. Like it was timing, Like I
Speaker 9: just came in at the right time, and you know.
Speaker 1: So technically all right, just treat me like a five
Speaker 1: year old with this question. Uh yeah, I'm lieing no.
Speaker 1: But in my head, like I thought that Mustard was
Speaker 1: starting a crust of a new movement. Yeah, but is
Speaker 1: he still rolling with the original cast of characters that
Speaker 1: came in the door with him, with YG, with you
Speaker 1: and anyone else that was associated with all of his
Speaker 1: sonic assault of twenty thirteen coming in the door? Like,
Speaker 1: are you still going to work continue to Yeah?
Speaker 9: I think like the sonics are changing and like everything is.
Speaker 9: You know, Mustard got his whatever he's doing YG. You
Speaker 9: know he's got four hundred Mustard's ten summers. I got
Speaker 9: the movement, and we come together as full hundred summers
Speaker 9: the movement. We're gonna work, Ygi and Mustard working right now.
Speaker 9: I just said, wyt GI's some new music. When I
Speaker 9: was out in Dubai like two weeks ago, me and
Speaker 9: Neil linked up and we just like made songs for
Speaker 9: a week. We said, wy G something.
Speaker 6: So what's your creative presence? Like do you write and
Speaker 6: record every day? Is it just kind of when you
Speaker 6: feel it?
Speaker 9: Like whenever I see something like this, I get excited.
Speaker 8: Man, Like the people, the room.
Speaker 9: The people, everything, like it's like this a couple million
Speaker 9: dollars right here, you know. Well besides that, like he
Speaker 9: was like.
Speaker 6: Oh man, I could we look at it? Like man,
Speaker 6: right right, man? You do most of your recordings still
Speaker 6: at the crib. What's your setup at setup?
Speaker 9: Home? Setup? Is uh the setups everywhere? So now, like
Speaker 9: I finally bought a drum set and like I got
Speaker 9: it fully miked, and I got a baby grand and
Speaker 9: it's fully miked, And I've been buying a little drums
Speaker 9: from everywhere I go. I just came back from Kenya
Speaker 9: about to bring something back.
Speaker 2: You're performing in King just I want can I tell y'all.
Speaker 1: The like Live Nation is really planning their feet in
Speaker 1: the African market now, So like.
Speaker 9: I'm wondering why they've been so late, But it's cool
Speaker 9: late why they've been so late on bringing me there
Speaker 9: because I know I had that many fans, Like it
Speaker 9: was like five thousand people out there going.
Speaker 1: It was just like initially, I mean there's always been
Speaker 1: a desire for artists to go over there, but you
Speaker 1: would have to have a lot of money. Like there
Speaker 1: was a point where I think, like when mis education
Speaker 1: was really popping, like Lauren and the roots. We're going
Speaker 1: to tour Africa like in ninety, nineteen thousand whatever. But
Speaker 1: because there wasn't a Live Nation, there's not a promoter
Speaker 1: there and.
Speaker 6: The governments real money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of funny money over there. Something happened, right,
Speaker 1: It was like a lot of scamage going on. Let's
Speaker 1: just be a PC.
Speaker 2: But give me a soci security Mber Prince.
Speaker 1: If I can tell you like the six closed Minosa
Speaker 1: Gar moments we had with Africa. But then like suddenly,
Speaker 1: like I guess like two thousand and nine, like all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, like Buster was constantly going to Africa.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what you know that we don't know? And
Speaker 1: suddenly like Live Nation has reps over there and they
Speaker 1: come back. So now, yeah, like Africa is now an
Speaker 1: option for artists to go to now.
Speaker 8: Employing people, not just flying people in the best energy ever?
Speaker 1: Contin have you done South Africa yet?
Speaker 9: I haven't, Man, they want it, so I'll be out there,
Speaker 9: so y'all don't.
Speaker 2: Now you'll kill it over there there. They'll love you.
Speaker 9: We're going to.
Speaker 13: Legos and different You gotta you gotta go visit the
Speaker 13: shrine if you if you go to legos you gotta
Speaker 13: go to to fail out shrine like it's still very
Speaker 13: active and.
Speaker 1: Still a musical, spiritual experience.
Speaker 8: So are familiar. I just want to hear you were.
Speaker 6: What's your what's your micael choice like at the crib,
Speaker 6: like what might you like to use?
Speaker 9: I have a Yeah, my voice is like hell, the
Speaker 9: bottom heavy, so that brings the brightness out. But I
Speaker 9: have every mic I got the noimans just in case
Speaker 9: whoever comes over. I'm a gear head for sure. Then
Speaker 9: I got the old way of pro tools where everybody
Speaker 9: feels like you need the full rack. Then I have
Speaker 9: the laptop with the duet, and of course like what
Speaker 9: I like to record on the quick way because you
Speaker 9: get the same You just take it to the big
Speaker 9: studio and put whatever you want to put on it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: That's about it.
Speaker 2: When do you think you you mentioned earlier.
Speaker 9: Eight guitars acoustics. Yeah, we can have fun, man, all right,
Speaker 9: I want to buy a roads next. I don't have one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm buying the roads. That's that's so crazy, because
Speaker 6: like you're moving Like all my homies that are keyboard players,
Speaker 6: they swear by like all the virtual entries. I'm gettings
Speaker 6: like I just got a Crodles Wait, yeah, like they
Speaker 6: I was watching video with a Fred Fred Greg filling
Speaker 6: games and he was playing it was some new virtual
Speaker 6: joint and he says that's like his main thing now,
Speaker 6: like the roads like they Well, it's so difference.
Speaker 1: What's so dope is that the patches on these keyboards
Speaker 1: now are song titles. I saw, yeah story, but yesterday
Speaker 1: I'm still this is this is four weeks after I
Speaker 1: did that. I g story, Like the song titles are endless,
Speaker 1: Like I was only in one uh what do you
Speaker 1: call it? One channel? I didn't realize that it's letters
Speaker 1: A through G. I was only in the letter. So
Speaker 1: yesterday I was in C and it was like, I
Speaker 1: mean they had the funky They literally had funky worm
Speaker 1: Chris Cross. I'm sorry, Chris Cross jump patch, but literally
Speaker 1: g thing but matching it, matching it no for I mean,
Speaker 1: it makes it'll put programmers out. Well, not that programmers
Speaker 1: like Stevie Wonder's guys are yeah, it's not like they're
Speaker 1: they're in business to program anymore. But now it's like
Speaker 1: there's literally no excuse for you to not find the song.
Speaker 1: You just type in the song title and you know
Speaker 1: what it is? You got your patches.
Speaker 6: I was reading that you were saying, we're working on
Speaker 6: Beach House three. There was a lot of records you
Speaker 6: had to turn down in order to get it, and
Speaker 6: I was curious to know, how do you how do
Speaker 6: you determine what is for you versus what if for
Speaker 6: someone else? Or or like, how do you make that
Speaker 6: determination of this song? This feature is worth my time versus.
Speaker 2: You know what fuck that I'm gonna do this it's.
Speaker 9: All and how it makes me feel at the time
Speaker 9: and what I'm on And for Beach House three, I
Speaker 9: started with Message in a Bottle, which is the last song,
Speaker 9: which a lot of the homies be like, yo, you
Speaker 9: tapped into the time Corey vibes, thanks man. So anyway,
Speaker 9: I started with that, so I felt like everything had
Speaker 9: to be as good as that, and I knew I
Speaker 9: wanted to do a lot more singing so I could
Speaker 9: like get this hold the rapper tie dollar sign thing
Speaker 9: you know away from me. What came next after Message
Speaker 9: in a Bottle, we did saw My Okay, saw My
Speaker 9: Famous and side effects. That's all my homies. Poo Bear,
Speaker 9: yeah from fifteen hundred, He's not fifteen. He's just like solo,
Speaker 9: but he's amazing. I've known him for a while. He's
Speaker 9: been in the game for a minute as well. He
Speaker 9: wrote Peaches and Cream for one twelve Back of the
Speaker 9: Day okay, and like he also wrote justin Biebers versus
Speaker 9: on Desko.
Speaker 1: Oh he's good for a minute.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 9: Shout out to Poober.
Speaker 6: What was the difference between the like the campaign and
Speaker 6: uh and beat outs? Because at first Campaign was a
Speaker 6: mixtape and then Atlantic put it out, Like how do
Speaker 6: you differentiate between what's a tape and what's an official album.
Speaker 9: I would have loved it to count as the album.
Speaker 2: That's some of my favorite shit is on campaign, But.
Speaker 9: I guess I didn't do my business right at the time.
Speaker 9: I'm learning teachers. Okay, you have to like go through
Speaker 9: the album cycle with the lawyers and all that, but
Speaker 9: before you can't just give them a record and be
Speaker 9: like this is the album whatever?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 9: Cool?
Speaker 1: So so you basically said here and they were like,
Speaker 1: no mixtape.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like because I wanted to drop it immediately, and
Speaker 9: like they.
Speaker 11: Were like, if you want to drop it immediately, you
Speaker 11: have to do the mixtape, you know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like it just couldn't get cleared in time or
Speaker 9: whatever the case. So you know, it came out as
Speaker 9: a tape and still I had campaign on it and
Speaker 9: Zaddy and you know some songs that people love so
Speaker 9: shout out everybody the stream campaign.
Speaker 1: But does but does that also mean uh that you
Speaker 1: get to control your uh mixtapes? Like do they own
Speaker 1: the master to the mixtape? Or is it just like like,
Speaker 1: how how is that I've never released a mixtape?
Speaker 8: Wow, that's fascinating. Maybe it's time.
Speaker 2: That's a different eraror it's just yeah, that's that's the movement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it is. But I meant like, do you
Speaker 1: get to own your masters and everything if it's a mixtape? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but they'll promote it for you, yeah, just so that okay.
Speaker 1: So it's sort of like them handing out the flyer
Speaker 1: at the end of the night, right helping you out.
Speaker 1: I see that.
Speaker 11: So by now I imagine that you're wishless for working producers,
Speaker 11: musicians and artists. Is kind of being chopped down, right,
Speaker 11: because you just said you walked in here and you're like,
Speaker 11: should I got John Mayer this album?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I mean you got John Mayer? You got score Like
Speaker 8: you got future, you got everybody like you, baby face,
Speaker 8: So let's.
Speaker 9: Yeah, who's Cuddy I want to work with? Y'all?
Speaker 1: Done? That seems okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like a no brainer.
Speaker 9: We'll get together soon. There's a lot of people I
Speaker 9: still want to work with.
Speaker 11: Are there any other the Jagged Edges type of people
Speaker 11: that you want to work.
Speaker 1: Considered? Nineties? Whatever? Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, the song would just have to come
Speaker 9: up first. You hear it, hear it and feel it,
Speaker 9: get it done. You will seeing me and Charlie Wilson
Speaker 9: had a song too that could have went on Beach
Speaker 9: House three, but uh uh, the song is amazing. We'll see,
Speaker 9: we'll see what happens with it here.
Speaker 1: First, would you consider doing any Yiddish folk songs on.
Speaker 9: I don't think I'm gonna make a beach house for Actually,
Speaker 9: I'm gonna, you know, think of a new.
Speaker 1: Time the houses beach houses.
Speaker 2: You're a lot closer to it now. I'd imagine, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: I got a long beach beach house, but like, it's
Speaker 9: not the one that I know you want. I'm gonna
Speaker 9: still like, where's the dream? To get the dream one?
Speaker 9: It could probably be a you know, Malibu, Star Island
Speaker 9: and Miami or you know there's many There's gonna be
Speaker 9: many beach houses. You know, the way my life is looking.
Speaker 10: Say that that was wise.
Speaker 6: When do you think you when do you think you
Speaker 6: gained confidence as a singer, because you're saying early, you
Speaker 6: know you weren't really confident in it.
Speaker 9: I gained confidence when I seen YG walk away with
Speaker 9: the rest of that break. Yet. Yeah, we talked about it.
Speaker 1: I said it.
Speaker 9: I said it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Motivated men.
Speaker 8: He said you got one more time to mention that
Speaker 8: in an interview.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well for sure, definitely. That will definitely change you, man,
Speaker 9: when you see it's possible, like when you guys have
Speaker 9: just been working in the back, you know, of Grandma's crib,
Speaker 9: and then all of a sudden you can go get
Speaker 9: paid for real people want to pay for this. Let's
Speaker 9: go get it there.
Speaker 1: That's that's really words.
Speaker 2: It really is hell.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you see a niggas you walk over a four
Speaker 6: hundred dollars walking up with ten thousand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be a singing ass, right.
Speaker 1: Man. We thank you for coming on the show today, Yeah, pleasure,
Speaker 1: thank you everywhere.
Speaker 9: This is not mine. I actually stole it from the back.
Speaker 8: And you hear that, James, make sure you.
Speaker 10: Put it that.
Speaker 6: No, man, we thank you very much on Behalf of
Speaker 6: a Sugar. Hold up, damn, we forgot real quick, Master Teacher.
Speaker 6: You can't forget that the original original.
Speaker 1: How did that come about?
Speaker 9: We were just uh viving up Red Shopeak's house. Georgia.
Speaker 9: That's a gang of people on that song. Georgia Bla,
Speaker 9: the whole family, everybody.
Speaker 1: It was just a vip there.
Speaker 9: Yeah. I just did like me and Corey did one
Speaker 9: part on there.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 9: And you know Georgia did apart, and this person did
Speaker 9: a part of this person did apart, and then you
Speaker 9: have Master Teacher Stay Woke album?
Speaker 2: Is that on America?
Speaker 1: America? Can we officially say that she was better that
Speaker 1: term I stay woke? Be careful. That was the first place.
Speaker 1: That's the first place I ever heard it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm gonna just say down right now, I'm gonna
Speaker 8: just say that.
Speaker 6: Oh hell no, no, no, no, he definitely got Okay, Damn.
Speaker 6: I think she might she might have.
Speaker 9: I don't even want to say bit it. He might
Speaker 9: have just found out, but he found out.
Speaker 1: It was a great for those that listened to that for.
Speaker 8: That song that has nothing to do with staying woke.
Speaker 9: I hate when people do that.
Speaker 8: I didn't thank you.
Speaker 9: Not not you. I'm just saying, like when artists do
Speaker 9: that and be like, oh, you bid me, like.
Speaker 1: You know it's up in the air.
Speaker 9: I didn't have like many songs like when I made Saved,
Speaker 9: like J Cole had a song like about the same
Speaker 9: thing at the same time, and I'm like, no, I
Speaker 9: mean I put out another song where I did this
Speaker 9: or no that was I didn't. I didn't try to
Speaker 9: say people bid me. I just had the best or no.
Speaker 1: And then yes, you have the.
Speaker 9: Thank you. There's been many songs like that with me
Speaker 9: and Chris Brown and uh who else. We put out
Speaker 9: the Meek Mill with the Tony Tony Tony sample, and
Speaker 9: there was like some other song that had the Tony
Speaker 9: Tony sample. They thought we copied them or whatever.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, hey man, like there's only twelve who
Speaker 1: doesn't loud Us.
Speaker 11: Yeah, storm in every city loud Us.
Speaker 6: But nah, man, just thank thank you for coming and
Speaker 6: just I mean for us to sit here. I just
Speaker 6: want to say I'm a fan and I really just
Speaker 6: to have watched your journey and with no way you
Speaker 6: started the way you've taken.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I'm a big fan of you, like,
Speaker 1: thank you brother.
Speaker 9: Like in my old web right, I had you know how,
Speaker 9: we all had CD cases ship like the big giant
Speaker 9: logic and I had all your all your joints, right,
Speaker 9: and then somebody broke in my ship and took all
Speaker 9: of my CDs and I just never went and got CDs. Well,
Speaker 9: I have the cases still at the christ but the
Speaker 9: actual CDs were in that book, and like, it just
Speaker 9: pisses me off every time I look at the cases.
Speaker 1: Remind me of the late nineties early arts where you
Speaker 1: had to have like the travel cases. Yeah, the big
Speaker 1: case with like fifty CD changes in the back.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, they would have it in the trunk. You
Speaker 6: had the CD change in the trunk. Jesus man, that
Speaker 6: was the original on demand.
Speaker 1: It was anyway on behalf of Sugar Steve Fanticcolo. It's
Speaker 1: like yeah, and unpaid and boss bills any last words.
Speaker 6: You absent bills, absentee bills.
Speaker 1: Anyway, thank you very much for coming on the show.
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