1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: I clearly distinctly remember thinking about, gosh, you know, this 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: is so popular, what are we going to do? And 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: I had a whisper. My little whisper said build it. 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: And like I say, in the field of dreams, and 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: they will come. It is a build it and they 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: will serve you know, like they people will do this 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: if you make it duplicatable. You can make this so 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: that impacts communities across the country. 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to an army of normal folks. I'm Bill Courtney. 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm a normal guy. I'm a husband, I'm a father, 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm an entrepreneur, and I've been a football coach an 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: inner city Memphis. 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 3: And the last part, somehow, well, it led. 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: To a film about our team and that won the Oscar. 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: It's called Undefeated. I believe our country's problems are never 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: going to be solved by a bunch of fancy people 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: in nice suits using big words that nobody ever uses 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: on CNN and Fox, but rather by an army of 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: normal folks. That's us, just you and me saying hey, 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: maybe maybe I can help. That's what Pam Rosner, the 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: voice you just started, has done. Pam and her friends 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: wanted to volunteer with their sons, and so they started 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: a whole movement to do that. Today, the Young Men's 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: Service League has one hundred and ninety nine chapters across 25 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: the country and with over thirty thousand moms and sons 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 2: volunteering together. I can't wait for you to meet Pam 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 2: and hear all about this amazing story right after these 28 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: brief messages from our general sponsors. 29 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: Pam Rosner, Welcome to Memphis. 30 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: Hi, how are you doing today? 31 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: I'm groovy. You just flew in, didn't you. 32 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: I did crack a dawn, quick. 33 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: American flight up to Memphis, and quick American flight out 34 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: of Memphis. 35 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: I guess I thought I was going to get a 36 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: little work done. And by the time I got LAP 37 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: logged in and on the internet, they said, shut your 38 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: computers and set your trades up. 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: Well, thanks for coming, everybody. Pam Rosner is the founder 40 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: and national president of Young Men's Service League, headquartered out 41 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: of Plano, Texas. Started in Plano, Texas, and you'll learn 42 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: soon that it's gone farm beyond Plano, Texas. But when 43 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: I first read it heard about you, I thought that's 44 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: a strange name for a man. Pam the founder and 45 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: president of the young Man's Service League, you know, or 46 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: why was the young Man Service League being led by 47 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: a lady named Pam. 48 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: And good question. 49 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: It was kind of interesting and that's going to be 50 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: revealed to us soon enough. First, tell me a little 51 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: bit about you where you come from. 52 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: I was actually born in Texas, lived there a couple 53 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: of years, and then my mom and dad divorced when 54 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: I was very young, and I moved back to live 55 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: with my grandparents in Maryland, and my mom remarried military guy. 56 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: And we lived. 57 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: He was out out of the military by the time 58 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: I was about seven or eight, and so we lived 59 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: in the DC area as he pursued careers my dad 60 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: was involved in. He was a Navy pilot, then a commander. 61 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: Then he went to work for the NSA and he 62 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: went Yeah, then he went to work for the CIA, and. 63 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: Then he went to work for the Defense Department. 64 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: He served under George Bush Senior, and so I had 65 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: led a different life up there in the Washington world. 66 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: But then he retired and got into private industry. But 67 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: it was some interesting things, and he did things I 68 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: never knew. I won't ever know that he did, but 69 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: I think it gave me a different perspective on life 70 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: obviously from a young age to be involved in that 71 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And then I went to college in 72 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, which is kind of crazy, and they had 73 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: a through program when I graduated. If you went had 74 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: a certain grade point average, you could get automatic acceptance 75 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: into the University of Dallas. So I went home spring 76 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: break into my roommate and I said, what are we 77 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: going to do after college? Let's go get our MBA. 78 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: And so we came down to Texas sight Unseen and 79 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: started the adventure here and that's how I ended up 80 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: in the Dallas area. 81 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a cool story. 82 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: And wow, your dad was a Navy palette and then 83 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: did all that stuff. 84 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: That's interesting, very interesting. Dynamic man spoke me to get 85 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: us six or. 86 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: Seven around and find out really what the deal was 87 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: with Jack Ruby and some of them. 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have all that stuff. He was not FBI, 89 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: though the CIA does different things, right, So he was 90 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,559 Speaker 1: involved in he played a major role in the first 91 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: Golf World or securing airspace over Turkey. Really he was 92 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: a Middle Eastern specialist. Yeah, that is. 93 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: Very very cool. That was not in the prep at all. 94 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: But I think that's a really cool thing. So you 95 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: get to Dallas and you get your MBA because that's 96 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: what you do. 97 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: What you do there, it is, and. 98 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: Your story for the purposes of the young Man's Service 99 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: League starts. 100 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: Really not just. 101 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: One man, men's man. 102 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 3: You're more than one persons, the young man. 103 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: I didn't want to correct, Absolutely correct me. I'm a 104 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: big dufist. If I say something stupid, feel free to crepy. 105 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: So your story for the purposes of the Young Men's 106 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: Service League pits up when you're forty, but you've graduated, 107 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: So I assume you meet mister Reich, get married and 108 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: all that. 109 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, get married. 110 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: I started a career in real estate and did that 111 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: until I had my second child. Then I went pretty 112 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: much full time mother for the next ten or fifteen years. 113 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: I have four kids and they range, yeah, they range 114 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: in age from forty to thirty one, and three of 115 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: them are boys. Are men now, yeah, And so that's 116 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: kind of where I got started with Young Men's Service League. 117 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: Was trying to figure out something to do for my son, 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: my oldest boy, Clark, when he was in ninth grade. 119 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: I had been doing National Charity League, which is a 120 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: women's organization. 121 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: In the Awes in ninth grade. 122 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: Your oldest, My oldest was in ninth grade. 123 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: So they were all kicking at that time. 124 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we were crazy. Yeah. 125 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 126 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: Our children are thirty, twenty nine, twenty eight, and twenty seven. 127 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: You were crazy too, crazy, absolutely. 128 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: My wife is a saint to just imagine having three 129 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: in diapers and be pregnant. 130 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 131 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: Crazy. 132 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 133 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: All right. 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: So I've read that you were with some moms, some 135 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: friends and there was a thing for some girls that 136 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: was great, and you were like, why isn't something like 137 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: this for the boys, And I'll kind of let you 138 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: take it from there. 139 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: Is that a decent that's a great setup. Yeah. We 140 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: were at a lunch with some friends celebrating somebody's birthday, 141 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: and we were just talking about how much we'd enjoyed 142 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: serving with our daughters, and we were like, well, you know, 143 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing, there's nothing out here for that's a thing 144 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: for the daughters called National Charity League. 145 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: What I don't even know what that is. 146 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: It's actually a hundred it's either one hundred year old 147 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: organization that started in California. It's girls sixth grade to 148 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: twelfth grade that served their communities in a very similar 149 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: structure structured ourselves similar to National Charity of the NEAT League. 150 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: They focus on one other thing that which we do 151 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: is culture. We don't do cultural activities, and they have 152 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: things like teas and senior presentations and all of that. 153 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: So we decided. 154 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: It's a little bit that way, and so we decided 155 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: to take. 156 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: This the service part of that idea and just organize 157 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: an organization for young men so that they can get 158 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: out and learn how to serve those in our communities. 159 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: Because we were living in a you know, a fairly 160 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, well established neighborhood, middle class to upper class. 161 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: These kids had not seen, they've not seen what the 162 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: other side of the world looks like, and so we 163 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: really wanted to give them some exposure so that they 164 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: would have a heart of compassion for other people instead 165 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: of sustaining in their little bubble where they you know, 166 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: they just go through life and not ever have that 167 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: heart tug of helping somebody. 168 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: So literally you're saying how many friends are at launch? 169 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 5: Still one thing for contexts, I think we heard about 170 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 5: your originally Pam from Stacey Horst with friends, So I 171 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 5: think you guys and National Service League are both volunteers 172 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 5: for her charity as for friends. So I heard her 173 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 5: talk about that, like a lot of our volunteers come 174 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 5: from these two places. 175 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Yes, And then I looked at it. National Charity League 176 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: has I think about close to three hundred chapters two 177 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty maybe something chapters now oss the country. Yeah, 178 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: and they've been there one hundred years. We started in 179 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: two thousand. 180 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: H Okay, you can't blow that. Ye. 181 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not going to blow that yet. All Right, we'll 182 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: talk about. 183 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: That in two thousand and one. And okay, I'm going 184 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 3: to go back. 185 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: So we decided. 186 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: But there's seven of you. Seven, But see what I'm 187 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: trying to do is get into that moment. I mean, 188 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: there's seven of you living in middle to upper middle 189 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: to upper class lives with kids, having lunch, having lunch, 190 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: probably a forty dollars lunch, you know, maybe a thirty 191 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: do lunch. But you're not sitting at McDonald's, right, and 192 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: you just kind of come up with this idea that 193 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: our boys need to learn a little bit about service 194 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: and get out of their vacuum and their shell and 195 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: their bubble and we should do something fut it. 196 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: I mean, that is the most. 197 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: Innocuous thing to just be having a conversation at lunch 198 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 2: and decide to go act on it. 199 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: Why were you you. 200 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: Know, at first it was it got a lot of excitement. 201 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: Everybody was like, yeah, well we should do that, We 202 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: should do everybody does that Challets exactly. And so then 203 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: a core group of us, probably four of us went 204 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: back and said should we do this? Yeah, and we're like, well, 205 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: let's give it a try, you know, why not. And 206 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: so we had the experience of serving both probably three 207 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: of us had served in National Charity League, so we 208 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: knew how they there set up with the girls, right, 209 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: so we knew how their setup was, but you know, 210 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: we didn't have a clue know what it took to 211 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: get from that point to actually going to serve in 212 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: a philanthropy and being successful in it. And so we 213 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: just you know, just did a grassroots effort and started 214 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: recruiting people and we had a meeting at one of 215 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: our houses and said, anybody who has a son that's 216 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: in eighth or ninth or tenth grade, I can't remember 217 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: which ones because we were doing two classes at that point, 218 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: come to this meeting. And we got sixty people to 219 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: show up you're kidding. The first time we opened the doors, y'all, moms, 220 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: y'all showed up to say they wanted to be they 221 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: wanted to hear about what we were going to do, 222 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: and then they were like, we're in. Let's do it. 223 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: And now a few messages from our general sponsors. But first, 224 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: we're hosting two live interviews that I want to share 225 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: with you. On August twentieth, we're hosting one in Memphis 226 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: with Peter Muodobosi, who is known as the fall Dad 227 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: Flipper and it is the most famous foster dad in 228 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: all of America. 229 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: Peter is fostered. 230 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: Get this, forty seven kids, has adopted three of them 231 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: and is about to adopt three more, and his radical 232 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: love has gone viral. 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We formed a board and 253 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: started making decisions, you know, on everything under the moon 254 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: and writing bylaws and do you know just how to 255 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: become a nonprofit and ever done anything like that. None 256 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: of us had, none of us had any experience in it. 257 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: That kind of speaks to the power, the untapped power 258 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: of the mom. 259 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: I say that, and somebody asked me about this last week, 260 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: and I call our moms the secret sauce of young 261 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Men's servicely because they are so talented and amazing, and I. 262 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,119 Speaker 3: And often overlooked. 263 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I encourage women who especially who haven't been 264 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: in the workforce, who you know, are looking for things 265 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: to do when they come and start a chapter, for instance, 266 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: and they've never done anything like that before. It's like, 267 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: you can use this as a launch pad to go 268 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: anywhere you want in life, you know. And I said that, 269 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: say that at our conferences. I was forty two. I 270 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: hadn't held a real job, you know. I was still 271 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: in real estate kind of, you know a little bit, 272 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: not like I do now. And I didn't work for corporation. 273 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: I didn't have any background in any of that. And 274 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: I have been able to, you know, grow and learn 275 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: and develop, and I feel like I'm coming into my 276 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: own now, you know, at my age and not. So 277 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: I want them to know, you know, if your mom 278 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: at forty forty two, forty six, forty eight, fifty, whatever 279 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: it is, it's not too late to do something great, 280 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: you know. And I really like to encourage our our 281 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: women in that capacity. 282 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: So I absolutely love that. 283 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: I mean, it's never too late as long as the 284 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: sun's up and there's are in your lungs and you 285 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: have a passion and an ability and see an area 286 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: need you got a chance to go to work and 287 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: do something. Right, So sixty of you show up at 288 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: this house. 289 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: I guess you. 290 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how you got around. I guess text emails, 291 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: flowers with them out. 292 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: We didn't have texting back then, that's right, I guess not. 293 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: What did you do? 294 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: We barely had email. 295 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: It was just coming out, right, had been out. I 296 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 4: don't know when the email started. 297 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, how'd you get sixty people? 298 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: We just called people and started talking old fashion right right? Hi? 299 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: You know we're doing this And it's interesting. 300 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: Though there were sixty moms there to get young men 301 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: to start engaging. Were the young men aware that you 302 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: guys were colluding against their saturdays? They had no idea, 303 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: did they They're. 304 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: Like, we're doing what you signed me up for? 305 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: What That's exactly what my kids would have done. Like, 306 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: are you out of your mind? You know, this is 307 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: my life? 308 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 309 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sleeping on Saturday or you know, whatever it is. 310 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, we had a little resistance at first, 311 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: but as they got involved, it really that kind of 312 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: melted away. And we always tell the moms who were 313 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: thinking about joining our organization. Your son's not going to 314 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: jump up and down and. 315 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: Go can we do this? Can we can? 316 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: We? You know, like you have to talk to him 317 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: about it and explain to him the benefits of it, 318 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: and you're probably going to have to model how to 319 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: do this. 320 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: You might have to pull their hair and you. 321 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: Have to pull them out of bed by their arms 322 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: or their sometimes to go where they need to go. 323 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 4: But in the end we talk about it's the ride home. 324 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 3: Okay, So sixty moms and tell me what you first do. 325 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: So the first thing we did, which we can't do anymore, 326 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: we've outlawed it, is to help with a golf tournament 327 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: that was going on at the local country club. It 328 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: was supporting a philanthropy and so the boys got to 329 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: drive carts around and fill up water bottles and do 330 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: all the things to manage the golf tournament. They had 331 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: a ball. They thought this was the greatest thing ever. 332 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: And so that was our very first philanthropy event. And 333 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: then we expanded and we had to beg people. 334 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 3: To let us why did you outlaw? 335 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: We want them to be actually serving the people in 336 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: need and that and not handing out a water bottle. 337 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: I kind of figured that's what you're going to say, 338 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: because that's nice. 339 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice, kind of soft that they don't need 340 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: us to do that, you know, like, let's use our time. 341 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 4: We don't take that much time of the boys. 342 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: We want each hour to be as impactful as possible, 343 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: so we much rather have them serving food or building 344 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: ramps for you know, people to get out of their homes, 345 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: or working in food pantries, or playing with children who 346 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: have physical handicaps that playing sports. You know, I think 347 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: they get so much more out of that than they 348 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: do just going to some major, huge corporate event where 349 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: they're not they're just a mass number. 350 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: Okay, so after that they had a big time, but 351 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: you're still just moms and a bunch of kids. 352 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: Yes, So then we had to go convince some philanthropies, 353 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: real philanthropies that we could go and we will show 354 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: up for them, because that's what happens. 355 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: You know. 356 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: Most of the philanthropies have bad experiences with volunteers, and 357 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: so they're like, okay, we'll give you a try. 358 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: Oh so you had to beg. 359 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, to get opportunities to. 360 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: Go because they've heard of been done that. 361 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't know anything about us, and they probably. 362 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 5: Haven't talked about this too much on the show, but 363 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 5: you're probably aware of this, Pam. There is like a 364 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 5: big movement moving away from volunteers or a lot of 365 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 5: these nonprofits like won't even deal with it and they 366 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 5: just want to work with professional staff and just forget 367 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 5: about volunteers. 368 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: I think that's bad. I think that's I think that's 369 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: I think that pulls away an integral fiber and the 370 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: DNA of what PHILANTHROI is supposed to be, which is 371 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: volunteering as part of it. So I hate that we 372 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: need to we need to not talk about that anymore. Okay, 373 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: go ahead. 374 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: Well, I will say on one note that the philanthropies 375 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: would rather have money than time sometimes, but once we 376 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: can prove that we are an asset to them, then 377 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: they like our time. Bet So you bagged, yeah, and 378 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: we got So. The next one we got was the 379 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: plane I was Senior Community Home, which is a low 380 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: income senior living for facility. And so we started going 381 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: in there and playing bingo with the members and or 382 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: the resident. 383 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: High school kids. 384 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: Boys boys playing bingo, yeah, and a low income old 385 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: folks on. 386 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: And they love it and they fight over who gets 387 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: to call the numbers? 388 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 3: Are you kid? Yeah? 389 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: And then so this we're still serving that philanthropy twenty 390 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: four years later, and to the point where the seniors 391 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: in the senior in that in that residence every year 392 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the year have a graduation party 393 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: for our seniors who are. 394 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: Moving on and going you kid college. 395 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very sweet, sweet story. 396 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: That's yeah, fantastic and I cannot imagine the lessons. 397 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have, We have some great stories. My 398 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: favorite story there is there's a man. There's not many men, 399 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of women in this and one of 400 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: the young men who lived down the street from me 401 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: started up a relationship with this man who was in there, 402 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: and he loved baseball, and so does this kid. He 403 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: loved baseball, and so his name was Lou, and Lou 404 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: and Jason just talked, you know, every time they got together, 405 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: they talked about baseball. And Lou said, you know, when 406 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: I was young, I wanted to be a major league player, 407 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: but I couldn't because my family needed me to work 408 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: and I couldn't go play. 409 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 4: And he was able to. 410 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: He would have made the team, but he couldn't because 411 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: of money, and so Jason went and told his dad 412 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: this story, and his dad was just like, well, we 413 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: got to do something wonderful for him. So he arranged 414 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: for Lou to go to the Texas Rangers game and 415 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: throw out the first pitch of one of the games. 416 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, are you kidding that hadn't been one of the 417 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 2: highlights of Lou's life. 418 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he just I mean it was really really powerful. 419 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: That's that's enough. I mean we could wrap that is 420 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: the feel good story of the week. 421 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 3: That's awesome. And was Jason o he was? 422 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: He was great? 423 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, well the whole bunch of people went 424 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: with him. 425 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, that is fabulous. Okay, so you are doing 426 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: this all right? And how long does it go on 427 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 2: before you say? We could have chapters more. 428 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: Than just this. 429 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: So we the first couple of years. We started our 430 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: second chapter in two thousand and four, so three years. Yeah, 431 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: three years. We had such demand we had to turn 432 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: people away because we tried were in one chapter. So 433 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: we try to do twenty five young men per class. 434 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: So you know, so the classes aren't too big is 435 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: if they get too big, then they become invisible. You know, 436 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: boys can disappear into the woodwork really easily and not 437 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, not communicate, not play a role, not feel 438 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: safe in the environment. And so we don't want that. 439 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: We want them to feel like they're really part of something. 440 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: So we started our second chapter and probably about that 441 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: time I share in my stories that I had a whisper, 442 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, I was I work. I used to work late, 443 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: like I would get go to start working at ten 444 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: o'clock and figuring things out and be good to bed 445 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: at one and get up at you know, six to 446 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: get the family going again. And I clearly distinctly remembering 447 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: thinking about, gosh, how could you know this is so popular? 448 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: What are we going to do? 449 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: And my little whisper said, build it And like I say, 450 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: in the field of dreams and they will come, but 451 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: build it and they will serve, you know, like they 452 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: people will do this if you make it duplicatable. You 453 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: can make this so that impacts communities across the country. 454 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: So it's like the next day I woke up and 455 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is what we got to do. 456 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, we got we got to build this. We 457 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: need to make it a system that's duplicatable, and then 458 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: we need to go and take it forth. 459 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: When you're at the kitchen table and you tell your 460 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: unsuspecting husband that is beautiful wife and mother of has 461 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: four children, who's making his happy home, has decided now 462 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: to take this little idea that started at lunch over 463 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: a solid and some wine. You haven't said that. I'm 464 00:23:54,119 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: just guessing and scale it. And you're already working from 465 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: ten at night to one because you're being mom from 466 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: six am to ten. What is his reaction with that? 467 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 3: You know? 468 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 1: I think he at first just didn't really worry about it, 469 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, he didn't really kind of 470 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: quote cute, yeah, less or hardy what he thought? You know, Yeah, 471 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: they can grow in Dallas. You know that's I can 472 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: see that. That's great, but you know, don't take time 473 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: away from too much time away from your family or 474 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, the you know other things. And so ironically, 475 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: he is a lawyer, and he's the one who helped 476 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: us craft our bylaws and do the things to get 477 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: us started right. 478 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: Good for him, so he's helping. 479 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: He's still doing pro bono for us twenty four years later, 480 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: starting the new chapters and everything. So at first I 481 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: think he just he was so wrapped up in everything 482 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: he was doing. 483 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 4: He wasn't too worried about it. 484 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: But when it got bigger, it yeah, he was like, 485 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: are you are you doing that again? 486 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: You know, we'll be right back. So two thousand and 487 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: four you felt called in some way or another. You 488 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: saw the success of the last three years and you said, 489 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: build it. But again you had never built anything really now, 490 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: So what does build it look like? And how did 491 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: that unfold for you? 492 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: I think that initially the first thing we did is 493 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: once we got all our rules and systems in place, 494 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: we used to make this is so funny. 495 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 4: We used to make notebooks. 496 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: So we would make a master notebook for every new 497 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: chapter that had like all the job descriptions and the 498 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: timelines and what you have to do a to Z 499 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: to start the chapter. And these binders were like this thick, 500 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: and the chapter presence would be so excited to get them, 501 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, because then they could go and do it. 502 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: And then our board would just support those chapters like 503 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: one by one, like our new babies. And really we 504 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: carried that process in place for another six seven years 505 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: before we got onto a website. 506 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 4: We didn't even have a. 507 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: Website until twenty ten or twenty twelve something like that, 508 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: and so we just really did it one at a 509 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: time and we didn't do any advertising. It was all 510 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: word of mouth. It was primarily focused in Dallas initially. 511 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: And then we started our first out of state chapter 512 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and that was from a mom who had 513 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: lived in Plano who moved to Atlanta with twin boys, 514 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 1: and she says, we're going to do this for my boys, 515 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: and so she started the whole thing. We have I 516 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: think twenty chapters in Atlanta. 517 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: Now you have twenty chapters in Atlanta alone, Right, we 518 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 2: jumped too far? Yeah, yeah, that's okay. So two thousand 519 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: and four you start your second chapter. I mean, well, 520 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: I guess now's the time. How many chapters do you 521 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: have today? 522 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: We have one hundred and ninety nine chapters officially as 523 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: of today. 524 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: And how many cities we. 525 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Go by states, so we're in twenty three states. I'd 526 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: have to count the city. 527 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: Believable. In how many members. 528 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: About thirty three five I think thirty three thousand something members? 529 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: What is boys, boys and Moms? Yeah, the mom is 530 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: actually the member, but officially, but total people participating in 531 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: the program. And then we have about twenty twenty some 532 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: thousand alumni. 533 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: Now, okay, with that little reveal, which is unbelievable to me, 534 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: I'll ask you the question I just want to ask 535 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: you later. But so when does this thing become two 536 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: chapters to like ten to like twenty to like you're saying, 537 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: holy crap, I have a full time job. 538 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: Now, how did you understand? 539 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, you know, I think it just happened. 540 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: We started that first second chapter two thousand and four. 541 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: I think in two thousand and six we added five, 542 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: so we went from adding one to adding and so 543 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: we've gradually increased that number as we've grown and grew 544 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: a bigger staff. And this past year we started twenty five. 545 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: So started twenty five one year. That has to be 546 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: an enormous amount of work. 547 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: It's an enormous amount of work, but because we have 548 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: the system, the system really makes it. 549 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 4: Easier to do. 550 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: And our people who start the new chapters are just 551 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: blown away by the resources that we provide them. I 552 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: mean they were just like, we had no idea when 553 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: we jumped on this webinar to hear about this thing 554 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: that you would hand us this gift of an organization 555 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: that we just had to plug and play, and so 556 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: that is that we've started that in the very beginning, 557 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: and we've carried it on and gotten it better, you know, 558 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: as time and technology has moved along. 559 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: So when you started this thing, your oldest was in 560 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: ninth grade. How many boys do you have? 561 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: Have? Three? Three boys? 562 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: How was the So the next one he was in 563 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: sixth grade, and then the next one was in second grade, 564 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: second grade. So I didn't do it your way. Four 565 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: I had two years apart, three years apart, four years apart. 566 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: We didn't plan to trust me, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, 567 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: and then six So that's twelve years. At the end 568 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: of twelve or thirteen years, your kids are done done? 569 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: Why to keep going at that? 570 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I am an entrepreneur at heart, I 571 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: think and I love the I love the idea of 572 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: expanding it and growing it to touch as many communities 573 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: as possible. And then I've uncovered a lot of things. 574 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot of things about myself in the process. 575 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: What have you learned about yourself? 576 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: I've learned that I am a good leader. I've learned 577 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: that I am a good visionary. I think that I 578 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: have a lot of people in my organization who are 579 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: great at you know, governance or finance or marketing or 580 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: whatever or legal right, yeah, but there's really nobody that 581 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: has the vision to push it forward that I have 582 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: right now anyway. And I'm sure there's people out there. 583 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: And that is a little founder syndrome maybe, but I 584 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: think that that has My gifts have come out as 585 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: I've gotten older, and I can utilize those to help 586 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: grow this organization. You know, I'm moving from day to 587 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: day things now to you know, getting more exposure to 588 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: corporations and you know, starting to do fundraising, just really 589 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: elevating the knowledge of our organization out in the communities 590 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: that haven't heard of us before. And so my role 591 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: is changing and and I don't see myself stepping away 592 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: anytime real soon. I think that right now it's still 593 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: relevant and to keeping the organization going and moving forward. 594 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: And we've had hiccups, trust me, we have had some hiccups, 595 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: but nothing. 596 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's nothing, nothing worthwhile. 597 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 4: There's been a couple of times I want to quit, 598 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 4: but you know I didn't. 599 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: So so is there chapter in Memphis? There is not 600 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: change that. That's right. We got to change that for sure. 601 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: I just need one. 602 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 4: Eighth grade mom to talk to. 603 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: That's all. 604 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: I need one eighth grade mom to talk to. 605 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: I think there's probably at least one hundred listening to 606 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: us right now from this area. 607 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: Expect a call. 608 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so explain to me kind of what 609 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: a chapter looks like and what the year looks. 610 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: Like for them. Okay. 611 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: So we start out our calendar year runs April one 612 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: to May. It May one to April thirtieth, and we 613 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: so we recruit in the spring, so for anybody starting 614 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: a chapter, they'll get their incoming ninth grade class. Unless 615 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: it's a new chapter, then we let them do two classes. 616 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: But existing chapters will recruit in the spring and then 617 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: kick off their year May first, And we do that 618 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: so that kids can serve some hours during the sum 619 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, when they have a little bit more free times. 620 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: But we we offer two parts to our program. We 621 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: do the service component and they have to do a 622 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: minimum of twenty hours a year, and most a lot 623 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: of them do more than that. We have some kids 624 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: doing one hundred and fifty hours, you know, a year. 625 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: We really have a passion for it. And then they 626 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: can do their service hours whenever they want to, but 627 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: they do them with their mom. And that's what makes 628 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: us different than a lot of organizations. I think that 629 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: is our key differentiator is that you go serve with 630 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: your mom. Your mom doesn't sign you up and kick 631 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: you out the door, and she actually goes and does 632 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: the work with you. So they start serving during the 633 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: summer and then in the fall we start a set 634 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: of meetings that the young men have to attend and 635 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: they have to attend seven out of five out of 636 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: seven meetings that are offered a year. And the meetings 637 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: are like once a month on a Sunday afternoon for 638 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: an hour and a half, and they will do a 639 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: variety of life skills that we teach them. And so 640 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: we have a set curriculum in place and we cover 641 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: things from you know, like how to change a tire? 642 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 4: You know, how do you shop at the grocery store? 643 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: Mom based organization teaching boys how to change a tar 644 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: now that I love. 645 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: What's what's the car maintenance? 646 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: You know? 647 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: Well, we get we bring in speakers for the grade level, 648 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: or they may go to an auto shop right and 649 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: learn the ten things they need to check on their car, 650 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: or we will teach them about insurance and why it's 651 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: important not to mess up your insurance, or we teach 652 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: them about things. I say, the one of the big 653 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: things that we do is making good decisions, and we 654 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: bring in speakers who will speak to them. Moms tell 655 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: the kids all the time, don't drive and drink, don't 656 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: take drugs, don't do this, don't do that. But when 657 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: somebody else comes in and talks to them and shares 658 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: the real life consequences of some of those bad decisions, 659 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: it's far more impactful. 660 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 4: So we have a very relevant story. 661 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 5: Why is it Sean speaks story? 662 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so one of the most impactful ones that 663 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: I have had. We actually did this as a multi 664 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: chapter meeting in play so I think we had fifteen 665 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: twelve hundred people there, I think. And this young man 666 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: got up to speak and he's in a motorized wheelchair 667 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: when he comes up to the stage and he doesn't 668 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: his entire presentation. He has presented and created himself with 669 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: his index finger because he can't speak, but he can 670 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: type and he so use a voice. 671 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 3: Paralysis has taken his. 672 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: Voice too, and so he was paralyzed by being a 673 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: rider in a friend's car who was drunk and had 674 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: an accident and he lost everything, and you know, except 675 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: for his actual life, and he was making people's changing 676 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: people's lives by doing these presentations. 677 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 4: And I remember I was with my youngest son. 678 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 3: How did he do a speech with his finger? 679 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: It was voice activated through the so he. 680 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: Could type on a keypad and the computer would read 681 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: what he had had would speak what he's typing. And 682 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: he would tell the story of a rider in a 683 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 2: drunk accident and could. 684 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 4: Hear a pindra right? 685 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: And my son turned to me, goes, I'm never going 686 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: to drink alcohol. 687 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 4: Of course you know that changed but later, but. 688 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: Drinking alcohol and drinking and driving or two different things. 689 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so we really try to we do that. 690 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: We've had another family in Plano, Taylor Hooton Foundation. I 691 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard of them, but this young 692 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: man took his life because he had been taking steroids, 693 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: and so they came in and teach taught the kids 694 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: about steroid use about you know, a lot of these 695 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: kids are into pre pre workout things. They're very dangerous. 696 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: We've had moms come in and talk about how they 697 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: lost their son because they had a massive heart attack 698 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: by taking the the pre workout stuff. So there's a 699 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: lot we try to bring in things that will educate 700 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: the young men. Sometimes we educate the young men and 701 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: the moms. You know, we were we were right on 702 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: the bandwagon with a vaping thing that when it came 703 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: out and talking about that about the fentanyl. 704 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 4: You know that's out there in the world. 705 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: So we education around practical life experience stuff as well 706 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 2: as service. 707 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: Those are two focus. 708 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 3: I mean, that's awesome. 709 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: My So, I do not believe in having able bodied 710 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: children in your house while you are working and they 711 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: are doing nothing. 712 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 3: It infuriates me. 713 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: So one of the things Lisa and I did at 714 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: a very early age, when the kids were eight, they 715 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: started learning how to do yard work edging, weed eating, 716 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: mowing clip and ivy, picking up leaves, whatever. And it 717 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 2: was a typical I mean, you're for planos. So you 718 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: know what, early August is hot. It's hot and. 719 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 3: In Memphis is humid. 720 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: And so my nine year old daughter, or at that 721 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 2: time she would have been eleven year old daughter comes 722 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: around the corner, red face, sweaty, angry, and eleven or 723 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: twelve year old girl has a little level of sassiness 724 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: that starts to burble up. I think is the precursor 725 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 2: to becoming a woman anyway. So she comes around the 726 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: corner and looks at me with a bag of grass 727 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: over her shoulder and says, why can't we have a 728 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: yard man like normal people? And I said, honey, the 729 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 2: very question is the reason you're out here in this yard. 730 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 2: My kids, my girls had stilted boots and worked on 731 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 2: the lumber yard before they had make up. 732 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: My boys, that's impressive because I can't say I did 733 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: the same. 734 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: Well, they didn't have a loveyard, so I did. 735 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 4: All those things. 736 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: But my kids, my boys, learned how to weld and 737 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 2: change tires and do all the Here's the reason I'm 738 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 2: telling you all this is my son. My first son 739 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: went to college and by his senior year, in his 740 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: fraternity of one hundred and eighty people, any single time 741 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 2: somebody had something as simple as a white or blade 742 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: that didn't work, a blinker light out, a flat tire, 743 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: a switch on the wall of their dorm that didn't. 744 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 3: Work, they called will that's great. Well, these idiots didn't 745 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 3: even know which side of a screwdriver to hold. Yeah, 746 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, And it. 747 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 2: Does speak, in my opinion, to a little bit of 748 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: a loss among our young men coming up that they 749 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: stuff that I took her granted that a male needed 750 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: to know to do. 751 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 3: They don't don't. 752 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 2: And so I hear what you're talking about about how 753 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 2: to change a tire and finances and basic practical responsibility stuff. 754 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 2: I mean, that seems so simple that there's stuff we 755 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 2: had to be teaching, but you're putting it into almost 756 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: a practical curriculum. 757 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things that I've I've gone after 758 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: and said to our ninth grade moms when they're helping 759 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: plan the meetings, is that you need to have a 760 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: class and teach them how to paint, because you know, 761 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: we go to all these places to paint for the 762 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: the you know, shelters and things like that, and they're 763 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: they make a hot mess. 764 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 4: And then when somebody has to come in and clean 765 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 4: up after them. 766 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: And so I was like, first we need to take 767 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: them to Low's or hum depot or something like that 768 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: and teach them how to paint at least simply, you know. 769 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: And so they were like really, and I was like, yes, really, 770 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: because we don't have the energy to go back and 771 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: clean up your mess. So, you know, if you're going 772 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: to do a paint project. Make sure you have a 773 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: class that teaches them how to paint a wall. 774 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 2: The only manage if you do something right to it right, 775 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 2: the first right right. I remember a friend of my 776 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: kids coming over when Will was cutting the grass, and 777 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 2: the kid was looking at this lawn mow as if 778 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,959 Speaker 2: he was looking at an alien. And he said, mister Bill, 779 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 2: I said. He said, where's the button? And I said 780 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 2: what button? I said, the button? The button story started, 781 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 2: and I'm like, come here, boy, and I made them 782 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 2: hold the thing and I told him to lean over 783 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 2: and pulled the cord and he pulled it three times 784 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 2: and he was like, wow, that's hard. 785 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 3: And I'm like, what your parents should be flogged. 786 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 4: Now they have electric ones, so yeah, we're. 787 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: Still a methis. We have electricals run here. So it 788 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 2: looks like in May they're serving. And then throughout this 789 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 2: time you have these practical classes. You have meetings, and 790 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: and the moms are with the boys. 791 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: The moms don't meet with the boys. There's only when 792 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: they do the service. The moms actually have meetings also, 793 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: but we teach different things we actually try to and 794 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: things that are interesting for moms, like elder care. You know, 795 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: where do you where do you start with that, or 796 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: bringing in a philanthropy speaker, you know, to talk about 797 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: one of the philanthropy partners that we have, or you know, 798 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: talking through you know, how to communicate with your son. 799 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: So we try to give them different types of things 800 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: that are we call it feeding the mom. So she 801 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: wants to come to the business meeting and hear what's 802 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: going on with the chapter. And she lanced at ten 803 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: three a year, so both both ends get a little 804 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: bit of a curriculum. 805 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: And then this really cool. So I want to I 806 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 2: want you to tell this story and why it matters. 807 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 2: We highlighted probably a year ago, Sleep and Heavenly Pace. Yeah, 808 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: it's still one of my favorite stories. And it actually 809 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 2: connected us to another story in is It Jamaica Haiti 810 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 2: in Haiti, where we now have a Haitian orphanage that 811 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 2: has beds that now are working with sleep and have 812 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 2: only piece and the because the orphanage has a woodworking shop, 813 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 2: orphans at the woodworking shop are building beds for Haitian 814 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: kids who are not orphans, who don't have beds. 815 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. 816 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 3: Yes, we think about. 817 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: Well, that's the power of an army and normal folk yes, 818 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 2: it's that connectivity in the bottom up work. 819 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 3: But anyway, I know you guys. 820 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 2: Have done something Sleep and Heavenly Peace, but you had 821 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 2: a really creative idea to make sure that the kids 822 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: understood why these bets are important. 823 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, ye. So we actually work with Sleep 824 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: and Heavenly Peace and many of our chapters because they're 825 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: all over the country too, and one of the chapters 826 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: this year for their ultimate gifts, they do an education. 827 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 3: My ultimate gift. First, I jumped it. I should that's okay. 828 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 1: Well, we serve Sleep and Heavenly Peace for regular hours 829 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: and for Ultimate Gift hours, so it could be either one. 830 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: So let me skip the ultimate gift and I'll finish 831 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: this story and then we'll talk about that because that's 832 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: a bigger subject. That's cool, okay. So Sleep and Heavenly 833 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: Peace they were going to go do their projects. So 834 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: they decided to take all the kids who are going 835 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: to participate in the project dender moms and go sleep 836 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: like in a gym floor overnight without you know anything, 837 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: but maybe I think they were allowed to bring a pillow. 838 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: And so these kids then they got up the next 839 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: morning and they're like, so, how do you feel today 840 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: and they're like, not so great. How did you sleep? 841 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: Not so great? Yeah, my body hurts. And then they 842 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: were like, well, how do you think it would feel 843 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: like if you had to do that and then you 844 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: didn't get breakfast, and then you had to go to school, 845 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, and how would you feel in school? Would 846 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: you be able to be the best student that you 847 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 1: could be? And they were just like, oh my gosh, 848 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: how do people do this? I did it one night, 849 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, and and it made them understand why they 850 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: were building these beds at the project. And so when 851 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: they actually build the beds and they deliver them, they 852 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: they connect with the children who are receiving it and 853 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: understand that this is making their life better. 854 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,439 Speaker 4: And it's just a power. 855 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: It's so powerful. 856 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 2: And that concludes part one of my conversation with Pam Rosner, 857 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 2: and you don't want to miss part two. Now we'll 858 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: be able to listen to together, guys, we can change 859 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: this country. 860 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 3: It's going to start with you. I'll see in part 861 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 3: two