WEBVTT - Mick Shots: House Keeping 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:05.280 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:13.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick Shot, 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:18.080 screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:22.759 Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:31.160 and Nicky Spagnola and it's time for a Trade Deadline 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:36.760 edition of Mix Shots from inside the SWBC podcast studio 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.680 here at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, a 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:47.880 tamper free edition of the Trade Tamper Tamper Free Edition 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:55.800 Trading Deadline. As we are now ninety minutes away, nine 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.720 minutes away from the trade deadline. So when we finish, 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.440 it will be thirty minutes till breaking news, right, is 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.040 that what you're saying? That's exactly Yeah, there or forty 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.479 five minutes, I dare say, I dar say, we will 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.880 have nothing to report. There will be nothing to report 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.959 after we go off. That I would uh, I would 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.000 agree with you. Yeah, I think Jerry Jones agreed with 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.000 So why are your people gonna stick with us for 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.640 forty five minutes? You gotta build it up. We've got 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.800 all we got stuff kind of stuck mixed out rent 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.040 that's right, we forget that we got the rant called 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:34.720 the tse oh TV guy, the TV guy. Everybody don't 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:39.200 think anybody else listens to Jerry Jones. But yeah, okay, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.360 so we believe it when Jerry says that. Well, like 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:46.840 I said that, they're not pursuing anything. But if the 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.080 phone rang there you go answering. Okay, I did say 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.160 that Dak was going to play this weekend. He did. Yeah, 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.640 he had us all fired though, you know what, You're right, Bill, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:02:02.360 I can't believe anything else at this organization except here 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.960 on mix shots. So since you brought up the trade, yeah, 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.119 I was gonna ask you, do you ever remember when 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.200 you were here playing a midseason trade like something that 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:17.639 just astonished you. No, not necessarily midseason trades, but I'm 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.680 sure we had some. I mean you had things you 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.560 picked up guys. Maybe your last year here, we had 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.800 cut When was your last year here? Eighty nine? Okay, 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.800 yeah it was there. Not a midseason trade in eighty nine. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.280 I'm thinking back a rather large midseason trade in eighty 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:39.360 nine nine mid season Oh well, Herschel, Herschel, yeah, okay, yeah, 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:45.160 I meant not on the trade deadline, necessarily met everybody 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.400 got somebody, Yeah, I think they got more than somebody 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:53.880 out of that trade. Well they did, okay, So yeah, 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:57.000 we sent him away. We sent him away and got 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.320 nine right, one for nine? Is that what it was? 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.720 Or eighteen? However many you want to multiplied by the 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.400 draft backs? Well, it was, it was. It was initially 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.120 from the five players, I think it was. It was, 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.440 and including the draft, and then and then we found 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:18.080 out later that the draft the players were tied to 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.960 the draft picks, and Minnesota made the mistake of thinking 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.359 the Cowboys wanted to get good right away, so we're 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.320 going to give you all these scrap players that we 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:30.440 don't remember used to make mistakes right time. And so 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.200 and Jimmy was like, no, we wanted to We wanted 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.800 the draft choices. Uh. And you remember the one guy 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.640 didn't want to come, the running back, Uh, Darren Nelson. Yes, 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.200 he refused to come. And Jimmy goes, okay, that's fine, 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.640 we'll just take his And where did he go? Draft choice? 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.880 He went back to Minnesota never wound up going to 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.280 the San Diego Chargers that year. Yeah, okay, all right, 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.400 can you name who the players the Cowboys got in 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:59.840 the herschel Walker trade? D David Howard, I hold Jesse Solomon, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:07.280 Darren Nelson, And there was a defensive end that was, 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.640 I tell you the story. I forgot his name. I 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.080 want me to tell you the name. Yeah, and then 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.320 you can tell the story. Yeah, Alex Stewart, Alex Stewart 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.760 do not remember him, so he did nothing here, right, 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:29.239 But Edward or I think he wrote this that Alex 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.800 Stewart looked like tiz Ed and played like Jay. And 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.960 a day or so later, we're walking through the locker 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:39.840 you know, the outer part of the locker room at 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.400 the ranch, and here comes Alex Stuart and he sees 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:49.599 Ed and he basically confronted him very loudly. But you 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.440 know what, ed was right? Yeah, I mean he was right. 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.440 And sometimes if you tell the truth, it hurts. Yeah, 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.400 I mean you can be angry about it. Maybe ed 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.240 should have said it, but what big boys know. We 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.960 understand that we get into this particular reason and they're 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.760 going to be certain consequences. And when you play like crap, 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.840 you know you're a bad player. Sometimes the church just 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.760 comes out. Because he looked the part as I remember, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.360 and the fact that we don't remember him. Yeah, I'm 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:18.400 sure you're already looking up the stats right now, see 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.240 where he ended up? He ended up? What happened to him? 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.400 I mean, because I don't even remember period. If you 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.200 think about it, David Howard was a nice player. Yes 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.880 he was, Jesse, Jesse Solomon. He his mouth shut, but 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:35.919 he was a nice player. That's why he right right, Jesse. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.119 We were buddies, man. He would come to my locker 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.640 and we fussed all the time. Yeah, and then and 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.520 then and then I coult made it for till through 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:52.240 made it through the eighty nine Oh my god, disaster. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.320 If he asked right and he ended up? Did he 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.480 get he got a ring? He played because he remember 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:04.200 early in the NFC title game, Um, Kevin Smith got 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.080 hurt the first player, second play, and they put Ike 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.200 in and that's when they threw the deep past to 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.320 Jerry Jerry Rice. It would have been a touchdown, but 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.440 there was some sort of holding or something nullified. Next play, 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.120 Kevin Smith was back in the game. Well, you know, 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.640 I you know, I know, I had a very unorthodox 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.280 style that Tom Langer did not appreciate. And I get that, 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:32.680 but I hold his technique was probably worse than mine. No, no, 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.800 probably it was. He lined up deeper than I did. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.760 At least I had a backpedal. I hoped would back 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.680 up ten yards. He would line up at ten yards 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.359 and wouldn't move. He let him come him, come to 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.000 him at ten yards. I mean, you just don't do that. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.359 I mean, even the dbs this weekend, we're closer than that. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.240 So you were already gone. I think I've told this 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:00.919 story before. Ninety or ninety one Cowboys line didn't have 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.520 anything of a pass rush. And remember how good the 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.600 Eagles were at that time with that front four. And 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:10.000 so we're in the lock we're in the locker room 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.040 one day and they're talking about the We were talking 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.680 about just kind of shooting the bull with him, and 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.679 there was a couple other guys about their Eagles pass 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.480 rush and he goes, yeah, he goes, let me show 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.440 you how their DB's play. So he gets down in 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.760 his stance, got his hands on his knees, and he 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.480 starts backpedaling and he goes one, two, three, Okay, man, 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.320 I'm good because the play would have been over right. 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:39.600 He only had to cover for three seconds Chicago exactly. 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:45.040 And it was the funniest thing. Yeah, And so you know, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.480 we used to get so jealous with that. Of course, 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.840 we had doomsday at the time in the in the 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.280 eighties doomsday too, I guess you might call it. But 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.960 there were times when you know, the flex defense holds 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.480 your d line back. Yeah, And there were times with 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.320 especially with a play action. We was sitting ducks back then, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.880 and we would get so jealous when we would see 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.640 how Mike Downs was forced because he was part of 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.040 that run defense. The free safety is part of the 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.120 run defense. That's the kind of responsibility Mike had. He 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.480 had to be close to the line of scrimmage on 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.760 a lineman he's no more than ten yards. Then you 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.760 look at the other dbs and other safeties. We can't 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.120 even see them in those film they're they're out of 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.880 the pit, ten people on the field because the safety 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.800 is twenty yards back. And Mike Downs used to hate 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.320 that because he did not have that lux. Now, Jesse 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:37.960 Solomon was good, yes he was. And he cost me. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.760 He was fast. He cost me my mustache, by the way. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.920 In nineteen ninety right, he was holding out. Yeah, And 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:51.800 we were in San Diego for a week and I 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.959 had been corresponding to him back and forth, checking the comming. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.520 You're not coming. So I called him one day and 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.840 he told me. He goes, yeah, he goes, I bought 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.840 my my plane ticket, I'm coming tomorrow. Well, I get 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:10.960 in a argument about his status with Mike Fisher and 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.720 and so I think I've got inside information, right, and 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.280 it's like, yeah, i'll bet you he's coming. Oh he's not. 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:18.960 And he goes, what do you want to bet? I said, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:23.520 I'll bet my mustache. Right. Well, Jesse changed his mind 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.760 and he didn't come. He had the ticket and he 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:31.040 didn't show. I think that he was aware of that. Yeah, 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.640 we had a bet. I'll screw this guy. Then when 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.840 he showed up we were back I think he didn't 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.120 show up until training camp was over. When we were 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.680 back here, and he showed up the first day, and 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:50.520 I think we were interviewing Jerry or interviewing him, and 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.400 the two came together and Jerry was gonna, like, you know, 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.240 bury the hatchet and say okay, welcome back. And he 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.720 shook his hand and said good to be here with you, boss, 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.040 And he called him boss like three times. And I 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:10.199 was like, oh boy, I said, this isn't gonna last, okay, 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.000 just real quick. And David Howard ended up getting trade 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.760 with Lockhart right to the New England Patriots. All right, 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.560 just real quick, I'll run through the draft, I mean 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.280 the trade. Yeah, okay, yeah, those those players, and here 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:28.440 the draft picks. Okay, these are the unconditional picks they got. 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.880 The Cowboys got Minnesota's first round pick in ninety and 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.680 second round pick in ninety and their sixth round pick 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:39.040 in ninety so three draft picks that were unconditional. All right. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:44.080 The Cowboys also got Minnesota's first round pick in ninety 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:49.319 one conditional on cutting Solomon, Minnesota's second round pick in 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.800 ninety one, conditional on cutting Howard, Minnesota's first round pick 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.679 in ninety two, conditional and cutting Holt, and Minnesota's second 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.080 round pick in ninety two, conditioned met by rating away Nelson, 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.600 and Minnesota's third round pick in ninety two conditional one 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:08.760 cutting Stewart. It's amazing that they still have a team 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.719 to this day. And who was the GM Who's man, 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.480 Mike Lynn? Yeah, well he still has a job. Oh no, 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:19.920 he's so. When it was announced, it was announced as 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.880 those those five players, and one of them turned out 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.640 not showing up here, and three picks the first and second, 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.360 and then the sixth round pick the next year. I'm 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.679 not even for sure those picks were announced, okay, but 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.439 but those were the thre those were the end condition, 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:39.720 yeah right, And so with those picks, so, and I 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.240 don't know what the timeline was on when those players 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.720 had to be cut by in order for the pick 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.440 to take priority over the player. I think they had 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:53.000 to if they were on But whatever the deadline was, 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.960 Jimmy was cutting that player to get that pick. And 0:11:55.960 --> 0:12:00.160 they actually basically actually cut them all and then just 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:05.280 brought him back like because they cleared waivers. Because I 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:09.720 remember what happened. So this happened. It might have been well, 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.880 I don't know, say it was a Tuesday, right, Uh. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:19.440 And I remember Wednesday when Herschel was leaving. He walked 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:23.360 out the back to the player's parking lot at the ranch, 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.600 and uh, everybody started running after him, right to try 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.800 to catch up with him, right, And I started running 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.000 and I'm going, you know what, I am too old 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:37.559 to be running after a damn player. I am I'll 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.319 find out what he said. I am not doing chasing 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:44.600 him down like that. Right. So Friday, and I think 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.280 it was Channel twenty one, they wanted to do a 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:52.120 writer's roundtable about the trade, and so we all get 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.800 on there and we just panned the thing, just just 0:12:56.200 --> 0:13:00.240 just brutalized. Yeah, this is the best, let's say, only 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.200 asset you had, right, everybody else is getting old and 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.880 what do you We love to have a copy of that. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.720 And we all thought, we all thought they were getting 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.520 these players, not the draft picks. That part hadn't come out. Yeah, right. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:18.360 So the next day, Norm Hitchkis reports that part of 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.920 the trade was the Cowboys are going to send Steve 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:25.560 Walsh to Minnesota at the end of the year. And 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:30.439 I had found out on Friday that that was absolutely inaccurate. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.200 That wasn't that wasn't right. Right. Well, I get a 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.800 call from the paper and they go, well, we need 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.080 a comment from Jerry. I said, well, we don't need 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.800 a comment from Jerry. I'm telling you I've found out 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.640 and we've already written it that that's not part of 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.520 the trade. Okay, No, we still need something from Jerry. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.719 So I get Jerry on the phone, right, tell him 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.319 what Indeed, Well, he had seen the show Friday night 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:59.240 and he let me have it like nobody else has, right, 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:04.040 because because of how we criticized the trade. Probably Oh yeah, 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:08.320 we were all over right, and I mean, he just 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.840 went on and on. He was he was he was 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.959 especially hurt by you because you're his child. No, no, 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:18.280 I was not his child, not even close, all right, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.960 And you well, it was a long it was decade, 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.240 Garrett that I couldn't. I never worked my way back here. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.480 And uh and so he just went on its rant 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.520 and he used every word, you know, not in the 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.960 King's English, right, because everybody said, Cherry ever chew you out? 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.000 And I go, oh yeah. And so he got to 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.840 the end and I said, so, I said, so, do 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:49.120 you want to comment, write anything you want? I think 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.880 he Al would have gave you quotes, yall. You just yeah, 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:56.440 you were right. Yeah. So that was that was the 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.960 That's the other thing I remember of that trade. So, yeah, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.360 that wasn't that. But how but before that, before Jerry 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:10.000 got here, were there mid season trades that you remember. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:14.520 I remember just the acquisition of hershe Walker. But that 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.560 was a trade that just ended up, that happened. It 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.760 was in trading camp though, yeah, and you know that 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.240 was it was huge. That was the only thing close 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.560 to it because at that time you're bringing in Hershel Walker. 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.760 You have Tony Dorssett, right, So to us, yeah, that 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.200 was a big deal, and that at that time they 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.480 weren't really doing They weren't really trading anybody. They would 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.800 just cut them. So they traded before the season started. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:44.840 Um so this was before you were there when two 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:49.640 tall went to go box, Yes, and they were he 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.720 seventy nine was the season he boxed. And so he 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:59.080 came back back, but they had already traded for um, oh, 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:03.280 the defensive and from the coach, the big guy, Bubba Smith. No, 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:09.920 John Dutton very good, Yeah, John Dutton right, and uh, 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.440 and so that was a trade I remember. But other 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.840 than that, it was just kind of getting rid of guys, 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.720 not really trading guys. Yeah, that's right. That were the 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.520 trade deadline. Now, that was not that. It was all 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.000 about if they didn't want you, something happened, they would 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:29.400 just cut you. And bringing in Herschel was the exception 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.680 because we really didn't just bring in anybody like that. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.160 Every right, and especially you bring in the guy to 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.480 replace Tony Dorsett, future Hall of Fame. But this guy's 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.400 about to lead you his his he I think he 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:45.760 had passed ten thousand in eighty five and by the 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.280 time we got to eighty seven, you know, I mean, 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.400 he's working on being one of the leading rushers in history. 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:55.000 So for that to happen, I just thought that, we 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.480 know what, they a bunch of crap. The acquisition as 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.680 part of that. When the USFL folded. Uh, that got 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:06.840 overshadowed was Nate because they picked up Nate off of 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.240 US the US and he for some reason, I think 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.080 the Washington at the time Reskins. Uh what did they 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.040 have to do with that? No, they had drafted. They 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.119 had signed Nate as an undrafted fres agent as a 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.840 rookie and eighty three. Yes, so he and Babe Laffenberg 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.040 were there, and then he got cut and then he 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.040 ended up in the USFL for what a year or two. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.159 I just remember coming into the locker room. I believe 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.879 we went thousand oaks. Yes you were, and uh, I 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:39.719 remember seeing this big old brother like who hacks, you know, like, 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.720 and he looks so humble, you know, Nate, he looks 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.000 humble to he gets out that star whipping right. Yeah. 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.920 And so he just sitting there just looking very unassuming, 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.240 and I just kind of walked back by and like, uh, man, 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.120 who is this guy? You know, I really just didn't 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.119 know what to expect. And then if you remember, he 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.119 got nicknamed the kitchen because he was because he was 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.560 bigger than the Free and I must admit it wasn't 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.760 impressive because he was that big. Yeah, so you're thinking 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.840 he can't be any good a matter of fact, I 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.560 mean you're just thinking that, right, That's just first impression 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.600 we were talking about. We were talking about how players 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.040 can have an effect on the coaching staff, like tell them, hey, 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.199 this guy can do this, or this guy can do that. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.760 He goes, I might not have been here today had 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.640 it not been for Randy White and John Dutton and 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.960 who else? He pointed out somebody else on the defensive line. 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.640 He said they actually went to coach Landry and said, hey, 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.960 this guy's got something. Yeah. He said, they saved me 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.280 because he said I was so big and fat. He 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.840 goes to you. They saw the potential. Yeah, because at 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.040 that time, remember Tom didn't want anybody on the offensive 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.640 line more than two eighty. Man, if they were two eighty, 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.200 they were you. And this guy comes in at three forty. Yeah, 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.800 I meant Tom rafted the Senate. I think he was 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:55.000 around two hundred and sixty pounds. Yeah, and little did 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.440 we know thirty two years ago that on trade deadline day, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.879 which is also election, that herschel Walker would be running 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:08.280 for United Senate one day. That's pretty gard. That's a 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:13.640 huge circle, is a necessary circle. That is very good, William, 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.520 I gotta admit because that's that's just as ridiculous as 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.080 all of this crap. 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No, I'd love to go out there again, 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:37.880 but no, I'm just shot they didn't mentioned players because 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:41.560 definitely players to sign all the best. Well, I guess 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:46.360 it depends what they're going out there to get autographs. Okay, 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.880 where are we going? What do you think? We got 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:52.119 one trade that came down today that of a notable player, 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:56.679 Melvin ingram Is traded from Pittsburgh to Kansas City for 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.000 a sixth round draft. And I looked at his stats 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.840 and he was doing up resolutely nothing for the Steelers. 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:04.439 And so we saw the Chiefs play last night against 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.240 the Giants, so he could they could use all the 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.680 help they there? Yeah, because the Giants almost could have 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.159 should have won that game. I was picking the Giants 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:17.320 to win the game, win this game. Uh, if they 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:20.280 have got out of their own way. We got some 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:26.639 breaking news here after what that's two weeks? He played 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:30.840 here a month and he played two games. Didn't play 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:35.439 this last Thursday night he was inactive and my stat 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:40.639 sheet says in two games twenty seven snaps and one tackle. 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:43.640 The Cowboys have a need for a linebacker right now. 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:49.320 What's the status on jebral Cox. He is out. He 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:54.560 tore his ACL and we'll have surgery. Yeah, oh man, Yeah, 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:57.280 so the Cowboys have a need for a lot. Francis 0:23:57.320 --> 0:24:00.600 will take his place on the fifty three to come back. 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:09.560 And Ill I trolled on Twitter, get right, yeah, yeah, 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:14.280 we want that guy for It was I'd retweeted Chefter 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.959 or whoever about Jalen being released and I said, Cowboys 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:23.159 need a linebacker or whatever I mean. But when you 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.240 see something like that, I guess it's justification for making 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:30.359 the move. Right. Initially, it was, you know, surprise to 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.639 some people, not to us in this room, but also 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.560 the disappointment from Van Derress and thinks that nature. I 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:39.600 get it, man, that's your boy. You know your teammates 0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:42.440 got But man, if he ain't bawling, he ain't bawling, 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.359 And this to you, you hate to see him go, 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.879 but you gotta know you are a better defense without 0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:53.920 him in the lineup. Yes, And and I don't know 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:59.360 if they were playing him to possibly trade him, uh 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.520 for somebody to see, Oh look what he's doing, because 0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:06.800 he did nothing to qualify the snaps he was getting, 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.800 and he was taking snaps from other people. And as 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.959 a as a you know, as a human being, you know, 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.560 we hate to see people have to uproot their lives 0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:19.399 and yeah, move here and move there and things of 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:21.960 that nature. But you know, as much as we make 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.720 fun of it, it's just a part of the game. 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.280 It doesn't make it any easier for the player to 0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.520 have to move. And you know, I was blessed when 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.840 I when I left, I went to New York. But 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.560 you know, my my my wife is from here. We 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:38.240 grew up together, so it's safer for them to stay home. 0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.719 I don't have to take them with me everywhere I go. 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.400 That's the blessing that I had that stuff. They didn't 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.200 have to get out of school and things that nature. 0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:49.360 Everyone's different. But at the same time, it's a business. 0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:51.880 Well you know, that's so this this is for all 0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.199 the people that wanted to make a deal about it. 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.919 Oh you're messing up the team chemistry. Oh what are 0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.080 you gonna do in the locker room? You know, Well, 0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:02.040 how are these players? You know? And my response was 0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.720 they got to worry about number one. Yes, they ain't 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.239 worried about number two, and they also got to know 0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:11.240 that he wasn't making Yes, they knew. That's it. The 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.760 players in the locker room goes back to what I said. 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.960 Players know the thing about Nate, right, and and they 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:21.120 know so film don't lie. Yeah, certainly doesn't a lie. Well, 0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:23.199 I learned that in Yeah, I know. I learned that 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.600 with Tom Landry Boy, who were running that joker back 0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.879 and forth on your man, like this is your thumb stuck, 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.080 Why don't you move on with the play. No, he's 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:31.960 got to make a point and that point will be 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.280 made and everyone in there will know it. Yeah, and 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:39.160 that's the thing. He sends a message through film black 0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:46.359 and white back then it was back then. So yeah, no, no, 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:51.959 Jalen and you know, Jerry mentioned, Mike mentioned, Stephen mentioned that, 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.040 you know, they weren't going to be active in the 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:58.480 trade market unless somebody called, and as Jerry and Jerry said, 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:02.320 every time you call, the price goes up. I remember 0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.800 I learned that from Bob Accles because they were in 0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.520 a dispute with somebody. Wow Bob remember, yes, I do. 0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:12.160 He was the personnel director kind of managing the cap 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:16.280 and all that, and they were in a dispute with somebody, 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.320 and I said, well, have you talked to him or 0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.320 his agent? He goes, no, I go, well why not? 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.480 He goes, because every time I pick up the phone, 0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.800 I'm spending money like it's going to get more expensive. Right, 0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:30.320 that is very good. And so like Jerry said, if 0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.720 they're calling you, oh okay, we can listen. But if 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.720 I'm calling for something, he goes, Now it's getting expensive. 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.080 So you don't want to be that guy. And and 0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:42.119 you know, and I don't know that they have a 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:46.680 serious need to trade something. You know, Bill talked about 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:51.120 the quarterback thing, and probably before Sunday, but got solidified, 0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.280 say before the second half, yeah, right half time. You're 0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.800 probably thinking, oh see before the last two minutes of 0:27:56.800 --> 0:28:01.240 the game. Yeah yeah, I mean think about it. No, 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.520 you're probably right. The Cowboys go three and out. Okay 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.960 on that last possession, Yeah, okay, what are we talking about? 0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:12.560 After the game and they fall sixteen thirteen in Minnesota? 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.400 Bat phone the bat phone sitting back, and you're looking 0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:20.280 for a veteran quarterback, right, So, and he didn't play 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:24.119 poorly up until then, but they said halftime the number 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:28.120 one scoring offense in the league had three points and 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.960 Minnesota's defense wasn't all that they weren't and we found 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.399 that out as the game progressed. So other than the 0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.160 quarterback position, you know, everybody wants to know, well, what 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.520 other position do you need? And I'm going, well, I 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.240 need a defense of it. Oh, but Marcus Lawrence is 0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.440 coming back. I could use another defense tackle. Ok, wait, 0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:53.560 Gallimore's coming back. Right um wide receiver. You got Gallop 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:58.120 coming back, and god forbid, you don't trade positions of 0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.840 strength to get a dark draft choice because the guy's 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:06.280 contracts next year. This team's six and one. You sense 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.959 something special just might be happening here. Why would you 0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:14.400 do anything to diminish your roster for the future. There 0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.960 came off of probably the most, like you say, special, 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.440 This was the most special game this year, right, it had. 0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.400 It had its own uniqueness over the as we talked 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.880 about the Patriots game. Patriots game was amazing, but this 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.960 one was just a specially in its own right because 0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.800 of the backup situation, because of how we could have 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.720 just gone in there, and also the fact that it 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.400 caused us not to make another move on this team 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.320 that we did not need to make, right absolutely, So 0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.880 why would you trade away anything. Somebody's like, well, Tennessee 0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.840 needs a running back that you might get a second 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:56.520 for Tony Pollard. Okay, fine, and Emmett Zekiel gets hurt, 0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:03.320 right and then what Clement? Seriously, so you would need 0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.480 a running back? So no, why would you do that? 0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.680 You you're you're in the catbird seat right now. We 0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.400 went from being the team that had the worst luck 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:16.160 ever to where everyone thinks that we've got this luxury 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:20.080 to sit dak until the playoffs start. Yeah, you know 0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.640 what I mean. We went from that team, we were 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.040 the worst team with the worst stuff was happening to it. 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.080 I see, it happened to every other team. Now you 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:28.920 saw what happened with Casey last night. I like that 0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.040 looked like the Cowboys last year or two years of 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.960 the injury, not just the juries, but the goofy play. Yes, 0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.600 you know, he's trying to throw the ball to number one. 0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.920 Number nineteen thinks it's going to him. He reaches up 0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:43.080 and it deflects my home's pass that was going to 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.680 number one and it ended up in an interception. That's 0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.280 the goofiness that we were looking at the last think 0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.960 you think to catch that Cooper made on that last drive. 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:57.400 It's a whole combat. It bounces off, the bounces off, 0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:01.440 a hand comes in and it's a big reception. That 0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:06.720 would not have happened last night before. Yeah, Yeah, or 0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:11.040 the last twenty four years before that. Yeah, because this 0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:15.080 is a special year. Um, all right. The best news 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:19.200 though to come out of Mike McCarthy's press conference yesterday 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.040 that Dak's ready. Dak is going to be a full 0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:27.320 go when they had their first full practice of the 0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.720 week on Thursday. Well, that's the if he gets the 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.600 padded right, right, That's what I mean. Yeah, Because they'll 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.480 practice all goes well on Wednesday and he'll be a 0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:39.920 full It's expected that he'll be a full go on Thursday. 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.480 And I think everybody needs to understand that what he 0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.840 did before the game on Sunday was what he had 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.920 been doing all week. It wasn't It wasn't like all 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.920 of a sudden they said, oh no, everyone thinking that 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.960 this was a workout. Yeah, it was his rehabs. He 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.560 would have done that even if they didn't think he 0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.920 was going to play right, And that's probably why they 0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.240 brought him to the game in the first place. So 0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.000 he could work out with brit before the game and 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.200 also too, and that's what he's also the fooler. Yeah, well, 0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:09.680 I'm sure. And Jerry talked about that too, by the way, 0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:13.440 about the importance of not giving somebody. He said, unless 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.320 they've got a camera up there watching your practice, you know, 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.840 you don't need to give them any And I'm thinking, yeah, 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.560 you're the one that would spill the beans. He's just 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:25.240 spilling it now, be quiet. Yeah, so he goes, yeah, 0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:28.400 we don't need to give them any competitive advantage. 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When you sign up 0:34:56.160 --> 0:35:00.239 to receive text messages from the team, text Cowboy Ways 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:04.879 two NFL d AL that's six three five three two 0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:08.920 five to receive ten percent off your next pro Shop order. 0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.920 Message frequency may vary, messages and data rates mail five. 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:21.520 You gotta do that point real fast. Yeah, we'll work 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:26.200 on that. Yeah, we got that's where Douglas Barriclow comes in. 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.680 That's right. Speeds up your right, right, make it sound right, 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:33.640 that's right, all right. I'm going to continue to check 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:38.280 the trade deadline Twitter as we go along. Here. Let's 0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.439 something you want to talk to Randy Gregory. Yes, let's 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:45.520 do that. Randy Gregory. Last night there got his fifth 0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.200 sack of the season. I predicted he would get ten, 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:54.560 So he's halfway there in seven games. He's got a chance. 0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:58.239 He was on Cowboys Hour last night with Bradsham and 0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:03.799 Shannon Gross and start talking to him about his maturity 0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.280 where he is not only on the team but in life, 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.839 and talked about him having more of a leadership role, 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:17.560 and Randy said it kind of came naturally. It wasn't forced. 0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.720 But here's what he had to say about him becoming 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:25.000 a leader on this team. Naturally happened. I think that's 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:28.080 the best way. I know. I was kind of put 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.359 in a leadership counsel and things like that, but uh, 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.719 you know, the best thing for me is is kind 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:34.839 of let me leave my own way and naturally grow 0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:38.759 into that that that spot, that role, And I mean 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.680 I can't say enough about coach McCarthy. You know, Rob 0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:45.320 Davis a d DQ everyone, Um so are his coaches 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.040 go and in front office believing in me to to 0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:52.239 be that type of leader. And I'm still learning every day. 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:54.600 I have to check myself, you know, sometimes when I 0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.920 want to take the shortcut, and I have to realize 0:36:57.960 --> 0:36:59.319 there's a lot of guys that are looking at me. 0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.680 If they see me that shortcut, maybe they take it too. 0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:05.960 And that's not championship football. So I'm growing into that 0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.040 role still. There's a lot of guys that are also 0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:10.880 and um, it's only going to make us better. I 0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:12.879 really feel like it's it's helping me up my game 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:17.040 on the field. So Randy Gregory and if anybody gets 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.440 a chance, um you can go to Dallas Cowboys dot 0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.200 com and call up the Cowboys Hour and listen to 0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:28.400 his interview. He was really good, really good about talking 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:32.320 about the team, the defense, his life being in an order, 0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.600 not just and he said, and he said, I finally 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:40.000 figured out my personal life was tied to my professional life. 0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:44.520 As my personal life got in order, my professional life 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.680 got in order. And as you guys can see, he's 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.960 playing awfully awfully well right now. And boy, if he 0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.759 can hold down to fort till DeMarcus Lawrence gets back 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:55.640 and you get both of those guys on the field 0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:59.640 at the same time exactly. And and the neat thing 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.080 that I don't know if anybody noticed this, but they've 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.719 been doing it the last couple of days games m 0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:10.560 when they've gone into times when it's just an absolute 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:14.720 definite passing situation and they know that he's been getting 0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.400 chipped on the edge, they've moved him to a stand 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.920 up basically in the middle and letting him hit the 0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:24.239 gaps he and Parsons and they will also stunt him 0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:28.960 into the gap right there, so they're not going to 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.640 allow him just to keep getting chipped on the outside. 0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.040 You know, I guess that's a compliment, but you know, 0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:36.680 it doesn't feel like a compliment when you're getting hit. 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.080 He's so fast off the line. Um. When they saw 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.040 the sack he had on Cousins way, he actually stripped 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:46.520 the ball and Cousins fell down on top of it. 0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:50.160 Came off so fast and he actually passed the quarterback 0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:54.200 and that to come back. That's just so much speed. 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.520 You know. What's one of the beautiful things about that. 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.880 That allows the Cowboys to do that too, is Parson 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:04.919 speed at linebacker, because whether whether it's stunning Gregory into 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.000 the middle or lining him up as a stand up 0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:10.960 rusher from there, you could also stand up Parsons. And 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:13.880 then Parsons is fast enough to get to the outside 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.400 in case they were able to break out out of 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:21.759 the pocket right and he run down somebody exactly. The 0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:24.799 center can only help one of the one side right. 0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.960 He can't get both right and so so basically Parsons 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.920 can cover the edge while Gregory goes up the middle. 0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.560 So Gregory h after he makes the sack that he 0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:38.560 keeps going outside outside, outside, then he gets a couple 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:42.920 of penalties and which we're bs, and so he's upset. 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:48.600 The first thing he does, he stunts inside on his own. Right. 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:50.480 He had to know what's coming because he ran right 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.319 into Cooks. Uh yeah, and and and and guess who 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:57.760 was there when Cooks came. I mean, r Randy almost 0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:01.839 took the hand off. He almost so fast, man so fast. 0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.040 But you know, as he talked about it, really the 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.600 best thing about this interview is it's the kind of 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:09.160 what we talked about last week. How important this is 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:12.680 for him. We talked about DAK and coming back from 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.520 and you know how monumentous that was for him just 0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:18.160 as a person to be able to come back and 0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:23.319 be successful after something so devastating. Well, Grandy Gregory has 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.799 had a couple of years where he's had to deal 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:29.600 with not a physical injury, but this is all his making, 0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.720 and it's all about his mental making and his mental health, 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.239 and for him to be able to come on the 0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:38.120 other side of that is one thing to play as 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.800 well as he's playing is another thing to be considered 0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.920 a leader. Let's just kind of back up a little bit, right, 0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.839 Let's let him go at his own pace. Okay, let's 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:51.160 let them lead by his play. He says the right things. 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.440 You know, he sounds very good when he says. You 0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.000 can tell the guy's you know, studying. Yeah, he's not 0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:00.040 some dummy sitting back there. This guy's contemplative about so 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.400 many things in life and he's had that time to 0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.200 think about that. So to me, let's just do let's 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.920 just take some baby steps here, Yes, let him just 0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.359 be a leader by his play exactly. Just back up 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.520 a little bit and not put too much pressure on 0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:16.760 because this is what's more important right now than physical 0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.160 one other thing he said that, and I hadn't heard 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:23.160 this before. He said, his mom and dad moved to 0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:26.839 Texas to be around him nice, to kind of help out. 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:30.400 And I remember meeting his dad when he was a 0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:35.200 rookie maybe or maybe the next year at a preseason game, 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:39.799 and his dad military guy too. Yeah, So he came 0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.080 up to me, introduced himself, and he said, I just 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.840 want you to know that, you know, my son's not 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:49.439 a bad guy and he's not a dummy. And he goes, 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.000 I know he's got his problems and we're trying to 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:53.759 work through him. And you know, it took him a 0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:57.000 couple of years to understand his personal life and who 0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.960 he hung around with was affecting his professional life. And 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.239 he mentioned his girlfriend how she's, you know, his rock 0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.960 now and helps out, keeps him kind of in line 0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.120 when he's and then he said something about it at 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:14.360 home and he said something aboudy, Yeah, I've learned to listen, 0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:17.080 and Brad goes, yeah, that's a good thing for your marriage. 0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:21.399 Just like it was. It was pretty funny, but it's 0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.880 a good It's a really good interview. Um, and I 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:27.160 think we all know how important. It is in any 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.920 profession when you have loved ones to support you and 0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.600 and all of that, that's that's major. Yeah, you know, 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:38.400 you just you just can't replace that with anything superficial, 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.200 you know, because that support you have, that love you 0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.920 have in your family, it is real and sometimes you 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.239 don't want to hear real, you know, but you need 0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:48.160 it and that's that's what they're there for. I was 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.880 blessed with I'm sure you guys as well. So you 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:54.160 want to move on to left tackle left tackle? Yeah, 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.920 And I didn't like that what came out of Jerry 0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.359 during the interview this morning on one h five three 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.160 the Fan when he was talking about Lale Collins and 0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.600 he kept mentioning, yeah, and there's a spur and he 0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:09.880 kept saying spur. Well, it sounds like Lale collins ankle 0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.600 sprain is not really a sprain. He's got a bone 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:16.920 spur in there that's been given him problems and normally, 0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:21.040 you know, if he can get through this, that's something 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:24.320 that normally in the offseason you take care of the surgery, 0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:26.960 you go in there and shave off the spur or 0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:31.440 whatever you do. So, um, you know they're gonna see 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:35.800 now Kellen Moore said yesterday about left tackle. If Tyrn 0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:40.800 can't play, he said, the game plan might dictate who 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:48.240 ends up playing there. So to me, to me, the 0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:53.319 only two, the only two real alternatives they have is 0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:57.560 to put Lale Collins at left tackle, or you move 0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:01.000 Terrence Steel the left tackle and Colins plays right tackle. 0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:05.160 To me, now, they got through the game with the 0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:10.279 Ski in there at left tackle, struggling a lot, and 0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:15.520 even when struggling and strangling, yes, he's strangling. Got gotta, Yes, 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.520 I don't know where that comes from. So which do 0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:23.319 you do? And you gotta and you do it starting tomorrow? Yes, 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:26.960 because McCarthy was asked how well did Niseki play and 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:32.080 he said he did better against the run, he struggled 0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:37.600 in past protection. To me, past protection, that that's an 0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:42.320 optimum when you got exactly what I tell me. Steele 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:47.320 plays left tackle, Collins plays right tackle. And the reasoning 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:51.440 behind that would be when the Cowboys the last half 0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:55.960 of training camp, maybe more, when they were practicing the 0:44:56.040 --> 0:45:01.360 second offensive line, Steele had art it off at right tackle. 0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.480 He ended up at left tackle, and the Seci ended 0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.720 up at right tackle. So to me, that was telling 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:11.200 me they were interviewing Steele to be the backup swing tackle. 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.040 It's like they knew he can play right, now can 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:17.400 you handle left. I don't know what kind of grade 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:19.680 he got out there, but that's the way they finished. 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:27.439 So Steele has played left tackle. They both played left tackle, 0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:31.520 but in the NFL. In the NFL, Steele has played 0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:35.880 left tackle right and and Leale hadn't played left tackles 0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:40.239 since LSU and we we aren't sure in Collins is 0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:44.640 coming off hip surgery last year, and we say it 0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:50.560 hasn't played since one game since twenty nineteen. So I 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:52.759 would put him at the most comfortable place that he 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:56.680 would be um and since Steele has played in this 0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:00.799 season in training camp at left tackle, you play and 0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:04.480 you're not really switching two positions there, right, you're switching one. 0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.560 You're switching Steel to left tackle. Collins is playing going 0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:11.040 back where he started off right, so it's not like 0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.759 you're changing two things, right, and he's played next to 0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.760 Martin before, that's no big deal on the right side. 0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:22.400 So if they think Steel can handle the left side 0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:26.400 in a game. But again credit to this coaching staff, 0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:33.360 they've compensated for lack of experience. Yes, lack of talent 0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:36.399 even right, they didn't do like they did to poor 0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.520 Chaz Green and whoever else they tried out there. And 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:41.640 let me let me qualify what I just said. That 0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.560 comes from someone who has not seen them in practice 0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:48.640 or this regular season. Just like when I'm talking about, Okay, 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:52.000 they got to get an experienced quarterback in here. Well, 0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:55.880 I haven't seen Cooper Rush in practice to know. Yeah, 0:46:55.960 --> 0:47:00.279 and so what Cooper Rush did on Sunday Night shows you. Yeah, 0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:04.280 these coaches do know what they're doing. They see things 0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:08.040 in practice that you know, they the media may not 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.920 see exactly. I may not even know what Kellen Moore 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.279 talked about the game plan and he said, you know, 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:18.240 we didn't radically change it because I've seen what Cooper 0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:21.920 Rush could do in practice. I've seen, uh, you know, 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:26.600 his composure, his poise, his times when I wish they 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.319 would have changed it. Yeah, because I'm like his dad, 0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.320 we need to run the ball now. Yeah, I'm still 0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.120 with dad. So first and goal at the four, you 0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:42.360 want run the ball except for Cooper, except for Cooper 0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:46.520 and CD right, see he wanted that that play. And 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:50.759 we're out of time on this edition already. But there 0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:53.400 was another trade that happened since we last were on 0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:59.000 the air. That affects Sunday's game. Okay, all right von Miller, Yes, oh, 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:04.080 because Denver m so that was huge. I haven't seen 0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:07.560 Denver play a lot. He's been hurt though, hasn't he 0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:10.280 He came back. He came back one game and vowed 0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:14.880 to play up to his past abilities, and he ended 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:16.920 up getting injured in that game. I believe that was 0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:20.000 a Monday night or Sunday night game. So yeah, that 0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:21.719 was recent. That was the last couple right. Here's the 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:25.480 report that's out right now on it. A source with 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:29.960 direct knowledge of the situation tells Pro Football Network that 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:34.040 Von Miller became upset when teammates declined to kick in 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:38.400 for his annual Halloween party, a massive affair with a 0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:41.880 six figure price tag. That is that I do know 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.040 of because I keyed to lead, you know, used to 0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:49.560 be in high school and he's gone to those parties. Yes, 0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:52.920 that Miller's request for financial help came as a surprise 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:56.120 to his teammates. They had assumed they were invited guests 0:48:56.160 --> 0:49:00.520 to the party, not co host Miller. Anyway, it's out there, 0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:06.759 but yes, he does have sources say from but but 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:10.440 they didn't post haven't commented on his play, right, you 0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:12.719 know everybody is making a big deal out of all 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.200 the Rams. Now they're gonna be unbeatable. Well, you're not 0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:23.160 getting von Miller from MVP seasons right, same same thing, 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.480 you know, same thing with the contracts coming up. The 0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:29.839 linebacker from Pittsburgh that got traded Kansas, he does have 0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:32.960 four and a half sacks this season, okay, and they's 0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:37.399 played in one, two, three, four and just got him 0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:40.360 listed here five six, seven games, so he's played all Okay, 0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.359 I only had thirty three snaps. I thought he only 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:45.640 had got injured in the game he got he had 0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:47.759 to come out of a game. Okay, Cleveland, he had 0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:52.160 thirty three snaps. That was their last game, and um 0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:56.399 he actually was last week's game and prior to that, 0:49:56.480 --> 0:49:59.600 he had maxed out at fifty eight snaps two weeks 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:02.319 before that against Pittsburgh. So okay, all right, well that 0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:04.040 was probably the game he came out. Maybe he can't 0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:07.200 help out, but Pittsburgh traded But it's not our problem 0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:10.680 now now it's Mike McCarthy said, if you fully fully 0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:14.359 approve that trade, that was a good timing one less 0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.080 headache to deal with. All Right, That does it for 0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:20.719 this edition of Mixed Shots. When we come back on Wednesday, 0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.440 we'll talk about all the deals the Cowboys made by 0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:27.880 three o'clock to Cowboys. This has been a production of 0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:31.560 Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.