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Speaker 1: Live from Indianapolis. This is continuing coverage NFL Combine on

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Speaker 1: Steelers National Video. Good morning, everyone, Welcome to the Convention

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Speaker 1: Center in Indianapolis. We were right across the street from

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Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium where the combined will officially being held.

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Speaker 1: Not here radio road, but we'll be with you Jerry

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Speaker 1: du Black of the Pittsburgh Post because that Stealer Radio

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Speaker 1: Network and joined by Matt Williamson for the next two

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Speaker 1: hours from the Stealer Nation Radio. Matt, good morning, Glad

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Speaker 1: to be with you, absolutely, um, and glad to be

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Speaker 1: with everybody in the morning. You guys started broadcasting yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I believe we couldn't get credentials until so you can

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Speaker 1: get in here at ten. But we went a little extra,

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Speaker 1: day of the combined when we get a chance to

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Speaker 1: talk with Kevin Colbert, he meets with the national and

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Speaker 1: and ESPN, and you guys had a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: to Kevin Colbert and uh, anything enlightening, which I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: guess probably after the lake or so I doubt it,

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Speaker 1: but uh, it's always good to chat with him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll replay it at some point during the

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Speaker 1: week too in case you guys miss it, or I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you could find it in podcast form or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's not my specialty of where you can dig that up,

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Speaker 1: but it was a really good conversation. Kevin sapoth with

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Speaker 1: us for twenty minutes as and you know, just to

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Speaker 1: pull back the curtain for people who don't realize that's

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Speaker 1: kind of what GMS and a lot of the coaches

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Speaker 1: do on I guess Monday this year, Tuesday this year,

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Speaker 1: because now on they're busy, I mean they're they're off

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Speaker 1: doing scouting stuff and you know, we get drills tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: They'll be heights and weights and interviews and all that

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Speaker 1: stuff going on as we speak. So it was good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we had a little talk about stuff on

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Speaker 1: And you know, most of the time. People in his

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Speaker 1: That's a really unique spot. And I have a hunt

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Speaker 1: you agree with me, but I think he's had a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career. It's a great way to go

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Speaker 1: out on his terms. You know, question about it came

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Speaker 1: three Super Bowls after that. You know he uh, he

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Speaker 1: kind of a retold rebuilt this team with with his

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Speaker 1: some great free agent signings along the way. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this last night. At some point

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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask him, and he'll probably be relucked

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Speaker 1: to do so, but I'm gonna ask him to name

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Speaker 1: his his top five free agent signings. He's been here.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago. Bill Coward was asked by

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Speaker 1: you know who was number one. I was surprised and

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Speaker 1: I told him I would disagreed with him. That's that's

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Speaker 1: but Troy Edwards was productive the first couple of years.

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Speaker 1: They went and drafted Plexico Burst right after that too,

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Speaker 1: right right. So I was surprised at this because but

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Speaker 1: he said because of uh and I can't remember the

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Speaker 1: the Steels than Jamaine Stevens. Absolutely absolutely so that Kevin

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Speaker 1: I hope that ESPN or NFL network does a Football

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Speaker 1: Life for a thirty for thirty with him and Ozzy

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Speaker 1: It points up where they are now. Are they in

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Speaker 1: year the class is not as good Kevin Colbert said yesterday,

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Speaker 1: it's Mike Tomlin's picks saying that's some of the free agents. Now,

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Speaker 1: go that one. But if Kevin is putting these players

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Speaker 1: uh for two for viewing purposes to is the NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: It's their most watched broadcast all year, which just blows

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Speaker 1: my mind. It's amazing. I thought I was one of

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Speaker 1: the only geeks that was watching all these years, you

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Speaker 1: know that was into the drills and all that and

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Speaker 1: it's growing like crazy, which is wonderful for the sport.

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Speaker 1: I even went on the you know, looked on their

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Speaker 1: guide to look their coverage is even gonna be more

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Speaker 1: extensive this year than ever, you know. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff for me to catch up on

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Speaker 1: when I get home. And you know, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: I think that is fantasy football. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: lot to do with it. Absolutely, without question. Everybody there

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Speaker 1: During the season, they all think their offensive coordinators and

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Speaker 1: out of season they'll think they're g ms. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: today I want to get an early look at who

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Speaker 1: they like. This one receiver exactly. I like this guy

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Speaker 1: the way he ran drills. Yep. I do think in

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Speaker 1: general fandom it's about the name on the back of

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Speaker 1: the jersey, then the front of the jersey at times. Nowadays.

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Speaker 1: You know, my young son loves the Steelers, but there's

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Speaker 1: players he just grew up watching more than I did.

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Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, my call the great fit of poulto

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Speaker 1: his son is, uh, you know, the big Justin wants

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Speaker 1: his jersey. You know. Um, it's and you're right, it's

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Speaker 1: it's who the player is, not the team they're playing for.

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Speaker 1: They follow on Instagram and stuff like that, and they

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Speaker 1: know a little bit more about the personality, and you know,

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Speaker 1: so there there's discussion about moving to Combine next year.

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Speaker 1: I'm the same way. India, of course, is one. This

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Speaker 1: is another in Los Angeles, the home of the NFL

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Speaker 1: network is a third. And um, First of all, I

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Speaker 1: think the location geographically for team you know, you're in

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Speaker 1: the middle, you know if you're if you're looking from

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Speaker 1: that standpoint, it's certainly easy or easier access for the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of the league. I think eighteen teams can drive.

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Speaker 1: And second of all, there is no better city for

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, a Final Four, or anything like the

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Speaker 1: NFL Combine. They have the Big ten championship here because

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Speaker 1: of the uh the infrastructure here, so many hotels, the

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Speaker 1: grid here, you can stay here, walk here, everything is downtown.

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Speaker 1: It is the best location I have seen for Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl or Final Four, and I've been to too many

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Speaker 1: of both and without with bar none because everything is

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Speaker 1: right here for the fans and everybody. I've been to

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Speaker 1: very few of those events. And but I can't agree more.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everything is flat. When the weather is bad,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to go outside, you know, West and

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Speaker 1: Dale and I drive here. It takes a little unders

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Speaker 1: hours including a stop, and there's you know, cities that

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Speaker 1: are even closer with NFL teams and a lot that

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Speaker 1: are in the same area. We we parked the jeep

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Speaker 1: and we never moved again until we head back to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: You know, we walk everywhere for a week. It's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would I would move. Um. I think they would

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Speaker 1: be doing themselves a media disservice as well if they

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Speaker 1: would go l A, because fewer places would travel, fewer teams,

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Speaker 1: fewer stations, fewer media people whether online or newspapers or whomever,

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Speaker 1: would travel to l A, especially when people are watching budgets,

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Speaker 1: because with so many teams, you're able to drive here.

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Speaker 1: It's it's obviously it's it's cheaper and more cost affordable.

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Speaker 1: And they go to l A, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: whole another ball game, and probably even Dallas, but especially

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Speaker 1: l A. Yeah, l A just getting around so difficult.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we take an hour bus ride to

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Speaker 1: come to a two hour show, is that worth it

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Speaker 1: for everybody? And all that type of thing. And I

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Speaker 1: sympathize with the players. I mean they're here three days

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Speaker 1: and they are herded like cattle and poked and prodded

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Speaker 1: and get very little sleep and analyzed to the nth degree.

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Speaker 1: And I have to think, and I don't know the

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Speaker 1: distics of it, but if it were somewhere else, do

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Speaker 1: they have to get up an hour early to bust

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Speaker 1: to the you know, the medical centers and they as

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Speaker 1: a whip to handle it. And then they run the

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Speaker 1: forty at point five of a tenth of a second

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Speaker 1: slower and we russure them and they lose two rounds

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Speaker 1: in the draft. It's crazy to me in some regards,

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Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, yeah, I I agree, And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the step after this, after the combine, is probably the

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Speaker 1: more essential step. I mean, they get to obviously, they

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Speaker 1: get to see drills. One of my one of my

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Speaker 1: kind of the things I kind of sneaker at, it's

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Speaker 1: almost like a pet peeve of mine, is when they

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Speaker 1: see is when the quarterback's throw and he made every throw. No,

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Speaker 1: I know, they want to gates their arch arm strength. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they make every throw with nobody coming at them

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Speaker 1: right right, right, you know, no whether conditions right, you know,

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Speaker 1: the the prockets not collapsing. They go, wow, he can

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Speaker 1: make all these throws. Yeah, I equated to uh, the

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Speaker 1: guys on the PGA tour on the practice range. You know,

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Speaker 1: I watched his warm up, you know, he looked really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And they take it out there when the pressure is

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Speaker 1: on camera right and trees are surrounding the Horner's water

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Speaker 1: to the left and bunkers to the right. So and

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Speaker 1: what what are you gonna do? And it's the same

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Speaker 1: type of thing. And most of these guys, Matt, I

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Speaker 1: would think, over the years have learned that the combine

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Speaker 1: is supplemental information and it better and it's not the

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Speaker 1: majority of your information. I mean, Stevens have always been

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Speaker 1: the tape they see in the fall is what they're

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Speaker 1: looking at. And they use these other sessions, especially the

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Speaker 1: interview sessions, and when they go to the pro days,

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Speaker 1: they're just supplementing and trying confirming what they think they know.

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Speaker 1: And then they have to meet the people. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're after. I mean, people forget the number

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Speaker 1: one goal of this event is medical. That's what it

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Speaker 1: started as. Get everybody here, get all the doctors on them.

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Speaker 1: That's still to me the number one important thing because uh,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers and a lot of these teams should have

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Speaker 1: their boards pretty well set, a strong rough draft of

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Speaker 1: your board. But if your doctor says that kne's not

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Speaker 1: gonna hold up, I mean there's a lot of negatives

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Speaker 1: that happened to that board this week because of medicals.

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Speaker 1: So the Steelers passed on Eddie Lacey right, exactly right,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't and he knew would never last. He

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Speaker 1: might be okay for a year or two, but they said,

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Speaker 1: in no way he's gonna last. Yeah. Um, I do

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Speaker 1: think the interviews are very important. But I've also been

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Speaker 1: a part of those. Like I sat him when I

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Speaker 1: was with the Browns. I sat in tour of them,

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Speaker 1: and it was fifteen minutes. The young man would walk in.

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Speaker 1: There was ten or twelve of us in this little room,

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Speaker 1: ten or twelve different teams. Correct, well they're ten or

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Speaker 1: twelve bodies, you know, Browns people. And he would walk

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Speaker 1: in and shake all our hands and would smile and

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Speaker 1: make a joke or whatever, and then they'd sit down

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Speaker 1: and start talking football with them and questioning things, and

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Speaker 1: then the horn to blow. I mean like it wasn't

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Speaker 1: quite long enough to he could fudge his way through it.

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Speaker 1: As my point, you know, he's getting the same questions

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Speaker 1: every time. That's the other thing. Those guys are prepped

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Speaker 1: on hot That's what they would do in the last

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Speaker 1: two months. Right, you got in trouble back in high school.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get asked about that thirty two times, Right,

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Speaker 1: how do you answer it? Um? I'm a fan of

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Speaker 1: the drill. I mean, I'm a I'm a scout at heart.

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Speaker 1: But I really think if you could get away with

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Speaker 1: just looking at all the drills and say who were

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Speaker 1: the top fifteen percent, who were the bottom fifteen percent,

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Speaker 1: and you know, use your judgments that way, and you'd

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Speaker 1: probably be fine. Yeah. And I'm and and I'm not

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Speaker 1: suggesting that guys can't improve or even hurt their draft

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Speaker 1: stock with a bad time or something. Um Um, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that it's ever drastically. The medical and and

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Speaker 1: maybe their history or things they find out in the

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Speaker 1: interviews would probably be more damaging, uh than than anything

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Speaker 1: that might happen at the combat. For the most part,

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Speaker 1: I always feel for the players. There's always like one

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Speaker 1: or two a year. I forget, the defensive tackle comeing

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Speaker 1: out of Michigan was a couple of years ago, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't have any ailments you know, and didn't time

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Speaker 1: in college, didn't have a bad knee, but then they

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Speaker 1: found a heart problem with them or something he never

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Speaker 1: even knew he had his whole life or didn't hinz

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have an a c L. And so I forget

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Speaker 1: what his story was or whatever that was. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember coming out, but uh, yeah, like they find things

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Speaker 1: you didn't even know wrong with he didn't have an

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Speaker 1: a c L. I think it was right right, right,

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Speaker 1: you know. So a couple of those things that aren't

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Speaker 1: you're not even looking for they find. I always feel

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Speaker 1: bad for those guys. I do think. I mean to

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Speaker 1: get conkey about it. I think there's some drills that

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Speaker 1: are really important for some position, but I don't need

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Speaker 1: to see offensive lineman running forty yards or you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm not gonna change my tune on

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that much. One of the coach

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Speaker 1: m VS Day, I don't know was Jason Licktor who

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Speaker 1: it was from Tampa Bay or somebody. They were talking

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Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't McCarthy either, but one of them was saying,

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Speaker 1: when when they talked to their scouts and their assistant coaches,

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Speaker 1: they're not worried about their forty times as much as

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Speaker 1: they say how fast does he look on fit? How

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Speaker 1: fast does he play in a game? Right? And and

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Speaker 1: you know the forty time too, it's just like it's

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Speaker 1: just like Olympic sprinters, you know, to run this forty

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Speaker 1: time fasters, but how are they going to be you know,

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Speaker 1: on the field or in pads or just how fast

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Speaker 1: do they play on the field, whether instinctively or naturally?

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Speaker 1: And um, you know, sure the forty time is nice,

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Speaker 1: but he's more concerned with how fast they look on film. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: A couple of notes on that is, First of all,

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Speaker 1: what do you think these players have been doing for

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Speaker 1: the last couple of months. They're working on their tracks.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make you better, fools, know, it's all about

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Speaker 1: your start and no one's chasing you. The conditions and

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Speaker 1: track are not you know, were sloppy or you're not

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Speaker 1: wearing football cleats and you certainly don't have pads or

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Speaker 1: a ball in your hand or getting chased by eleven

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Speaker 1: men trying to destroy you. And and then the other

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Speaker 1: thing too, I think it is important is if I

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Speaker 1: have braid on this player as I'm questioning his speed

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Speaker 1: or boy, I think he's really fast, and the forty

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Speaker 1: time tells me different. I'm gonna go back and say

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Speaker 1: maybe I had to pay, you know right, you know right?

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Speaker 1: You know, Jerry Dulack and Matt Williamson were at the

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Speaker 1: NFL Combine in Indianapolis. Or combined coverage is presented a

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Speaker 1: first National Bank. Let's get started. Remember F D I C.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break. We're coming back with a whole

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Speaker 1: lot more. Matt and I are with you until noon.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to ESPN Pittsburgh in the Nation Radio live

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Speaker 1: from Indianapolis. This is continuing coverage of the NFL Combine

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. Yeah, Carbine coverage is presented by

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Speaker 1: the National Bank. Let's get started. Remember F D I

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Speaker 1: C H. Matt. We were almost sat Dale, Matt. We

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Speaker 1: were talking earlier about um leadership and you mentioned that

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Speaker 1: about the offensive line, and I think that is something

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Speaker 1: that this team needs to be fully aware of. You know,

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Speaker 1: you look over the last couple of years. Ramon Foster

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Speaker 1: leaves last year, no Pouncy, no Dicastro, and I'll even

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00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: throw alvillanois now Ben's gone. There are no leaders on

640
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: that offense. There is nobody that um. Uh, that is

641
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: somebody who they would rally around, listen to follow, take charge, uh,

642
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: someone accountable. Um. And it's one of the reasons why

643
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: I think that. And I've changed my tune about you

644
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: do based on different things I've heard a bottom and

645
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: and what he did last year by coming back at

646
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: the end of the year to play in the postseason

647
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: when he really had no business doing it. He was

648
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: cleared to play, but a lot of guys, a lot

649
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: of agents told him, how you're gonna be a free agent,

650
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: don't risk farther injury. And I think uh impressed the

651
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: stealers with that. He showed them a lot by doing that.

652
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: And I was told, Juju is all about he loves

653
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: to play, he's committed to play, and he wants to play.

654
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: And and yeah he's a little goof, he's a little silly,

655
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: but you know it's he is the one guy, um

656
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: that I think because you know, he's probably the most

657
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: vested you know, and I know Mason Rudolf. No, it's

658
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: been there just too long, right, because it's so regardless

659
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: of Juju came with Connor and yeah, so that's why

660
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: I think they need to resign him, because otherwise you're

661
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: turning that wide receiver room over to Deante Johnson. And

662
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, and that's not the most advisable thing. So

663
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: you look at the offensive line, same deal. There's nobody

664
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: there not not to say, may maybe somebody could evolve

665
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: into that. I'm sure some leaders will step up. Its right,

666
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: but you don't have any on offense. And and I

667
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: think it's important to sign Juju for that reason. He's

668
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah, he is a guy who they will

669
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: listen to. He is a guy who has the ability

670
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: to have them kind of quote follow him, set the tone.

671
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: He's a tough guy. Obviously what he did last year

672
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: coming in, as I said, when he really had no

673
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: business coming back and playing, um, those are examples that

674
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: players look at, and those are examples that that you know,

675
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: there's tend to follow and and and he sets a

676
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: trend by doing that. And I think for that reason

677
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: it is important to bring him back. Also because I

678
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: just don't think his market value is gonna behind in

679
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: free agency. It wasn't last year. I know it was

680
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: a flattened cap, but I don't see him of a

681
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: sudden getting number one money. He's just not No. I

682
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: mean a couple of notes on that is you mentioned

683
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: the guys that left. I think one you didn't mention.

684
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of interesting as Hayward Bay because

685
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 1: even in the A B years in Juju rookie year

686
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: was I know, Hayward Bay's not making a play for

687
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: you on third and eight or winning you in the

688
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, But I bet he was a calming influence

689
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: in that wide receiver room. And you know, hey, I

690
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: was a super high pick and I had to go

691
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: play special teams and you know it's a humbling game.

692
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: And you're right about Juju. I thought about him more

693
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: on the and I think he probably gets a bum

694
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: rap because what's the twenty two or something, and they

695
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: think he's he's all of twenty four. Now, what's his

696
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: four years in his fourth year worth year and he

697
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: came as a nineteen year old or whatever. Yeah, he

698
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: was the youngest player in the league when he came in.

699
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Just because he likes TikTok and

700
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: Instagram and his brand and things. That's what people that

701
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: age do. Now. I mean, I feel like an old man,

702
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: haven't even think that way. But on the field, I

703
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: think he really brings an element that's missing. And frankly,

704
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a little critical of Claypool here when

705
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago when they drafted Claypool,

706
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm raving up and down. Boy, he was a really

707
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: good special team or at Notre Dame, he was a

708
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: tremendous blocker, really physical. But we haven't seen enough of

709
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: that in this league, you know. And maybe he's more

710
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: worried about his brand Bad Runner BA Route Runner two

711
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: and Juju. Just the physicality and tenacity he plays with

712
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: on Sunday, to me, is enough for me to strongly

713
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: consider bringing him back. Absolutely, And he can't be much

714
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: more expensive than last year now, And that's right. I

715
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: mean they give nine million dollars for one year, and

716
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: I mean they give any kind of average on that.

717
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: It's to me, it's well worth it. Yeah, to two

718
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: receivers under contract, right, Yeah, I couldn't. They're gonna. They're

719
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: not gonna bring James Washington back. There's no need to um,

720
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: you think the Clouds any change back either. I think

721
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: he has a chance to be back, but but not.

722
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, but as at this case, he'll he'll move

723
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: move from the fifth guy to the fourth guy, although

724
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: the way he was playing at the end of the year,

725
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: he was more like the fourth actually would have been

726
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: the third because Juju wasn't there for the most part. Um,

727
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: but and but also also it then will lead me

728
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: to believe, especially if Judu is not resigned, there is

729
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: no doubt they'll draft to wide by day two because yeah,

730
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: and and too, they never turn their back on a

731
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: skill player, and if there's any type of need for one,

732
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: which there will be. Um, So you go to the

733
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: other side of the ball. You have Cam of course,

734
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: the unquestioned leader. I'm not gonna sit here in dub

735
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: t J a leader but his but um, you have

736
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: a guy in a second tier level who was obviously

737
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: a defensive player of the Year and all player, and

738
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: your back and and you have joe Hay now Joey

739
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: Joey not be back. But you have a couple of guys.

740
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: So this then, but you look at the offensive line,

741
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: same thing. So you lose You lose Poundsy, you lose

742
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: Ramon the year before that, you lose the Castro. So

743
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: all those veteran players who in around and and lead

744
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: by example or by by voice, which was Poundcy was both, Um,

745
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: you don't have that, and they don't have that on

746
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: that offensive line, and I'm not sure to see that

747
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: developing anywhere as of right now. Green has those qualities

748
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: because he's feisty, um, But as of right now, you

749
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: don't have that. And I think maybe they need to

750
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: have a veteran presence and who you know, maybe also

751
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: might be that leader type. But you're not going out

752
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: and say let's go get a lead here, because you

753
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: never know. But I think it's important to get an

754
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: established veteran starter, a quality one if you agree. And

755
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: originally I thought it'd be center, and now I think

756
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be right guard. But either way, I mean,

757
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: the example I used early on was Ryan Jensen is

758
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: a center, the free agent now with Tampa Bay want

759
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. He played with Brady, He's from the

760
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: Ravens before that. He's the nastiest center in the league.

761
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: Somebody you want on your team and not to play against.

762
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: It'll probably be a little more expensive than you want

763
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: to spend. I'm saying, well, he's been around the block

764
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: and he as tough as could be. Somebody along those lines,

765
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: and you know, the room is his for the taking.

766
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense to me. And you know,

767
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: we opened the show with with some of Kevin's I mean, uh,

768
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: something along those lines could have a real ripple effect,

769
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: not only on the line but the whole offense. I think, na.

770
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't been down there with microphones in

771
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: their face, but I think Nausey has some leaderships. I

772
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: think he has a chance. Yes, I agree with that,

773
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: and I think Friar moved too. But I think now

774
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: I see nothing against Farms because I'm not saying you

775
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: can or you can't, but I do see a little

776
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: bit more in Nausea's personality where it could it could

777
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: lead to that. I mean, I'm you know, I'm not

778
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: gonna ordain him the next room bettist, that's for sure, uh,

779
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: in terms of his leaders ability, But again, you don't

780
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: lead by you know, you're not carrying the flag and

781
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: sounding the horn and beating the drum. You lead for example,

782
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: like James Ferrier. James Ferrier wasn't the best player on

783
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: that defense. Sure, man, he I mean really good, but

784
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: they he had everybody's attention, you know, and he was

785
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: a calming influence. When people ask me who your all

786
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: time favorite players, there's so many of them, but I

787
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: usually start with James Ferrier, Monty Dawson. Yeah, without question. Yeah,

788
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: my hunches. They'll draft two or three team captains, you

789
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: know that those type of guys, those next leaders and

790
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: will probably higher on their list. And it's always high

791
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: on their list compared to other teams. Character, leadership, all

792
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: those things. And they tried to draft use. Yeah, that's

793
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: that's a that's a big priority with them. It always

794
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: has been. It doesn't always work, but there is a

795
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: void now though. But there's also the elephant in the

796
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: room too. If there's going to be a new quarterback,

797
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: whether that's a rookie of free ading, whatever, what's his personality,

798
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's to be determined, But if

799
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: it's a rookie, that's asking a lot. I think the

800
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: other thing too, And we we we were touching on

801
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: this and and um uh when you look this team,

802
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: and this is a big problem to me, Matt going forward,

803
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: is there isn't anybody waiting in the wings to step up,

804
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 1: and and you think, okay, well we're gonna he's gonna

805
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: start this year. There's not even there's not even an

806
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: Alex Highsmith type of player. There's not a like that.

807
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: There's not an offensive lineman like that, mainly because they

808
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: had to use those guys last year. There's no ight

809
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: end like that. I mean for our Moose already established

810
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver, running back, UM, defensive line nobody, UH, linebacker nobody,

811
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: and in the secondary nobody. And so that to me,

812
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: that points up their lack of quality depth and and

813
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: guys who can stop. And you think, Okay, we can

814
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: move on from this guy because we want to play

815
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: this guy. They don't. I'm hard pressed to come up

816
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: with somebody. And I don't know if there's been a

817
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: team over the Colbert era over the last forty years,

818
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: it's been better than that. You know, like guys like

819
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: Harrison and Porter can't get on the field because a

820
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: lot of the outside edge guys are too good to

821
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: get in front of him, like more depth than enviable depth.

822
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him a slight excuse on that, although

823
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a tremendous point because I can't get

824
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: one of you know, a fifth round pick that's ready

825
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: to become a starter, and one of those things maybe

826
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: maybe they want to say, maybe they want to say,

827
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: isaaia because who I think they like, he's probably, but

828
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: he's right, he's nex cam Heyward do I promising young guy.

829
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: The things I'll excuse them on is because first off,

830
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: I say this all the time, but I think it's

831
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: really important. Only the Jets and the Lions played more

832
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: rooke knaps this year than the Steelers, so that was

833
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: kind of by design, and they accelerated the learning curve

834
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: on rookies. And I also think that the COVID cap

835
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: situation a year ago hurt them more than you know,

836
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: it's really question. I mean four four rookie starters on

837
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: absolutely count the punter two and yeah, I'm part of that. Yeah,

838
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: they they had to move on. You know, you look

839
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: at the you look at the free agents that they

840
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: had to that they not signed last year. You know, Uh,

841
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: there were I think there were fives, uh six starters,

842
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: six I believe, but um, you know Bud Dupree, Uh,

843
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: Mike Hilton, Um, who am I missing? James James Conner

844
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: been in away there was another guy on those other um.

845
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: But but so they were they were in a position

846
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: where they Matt Fyler, where they resigned those guys didn't

847
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: what couldn't afford to would have been handy and I

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Speaker 1: lot of money. The chart were paid for him. Sure

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Speaker 1: they could have got him cheaper than that, and he

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Speaker 1: there were enough guys, I mean, there were guys that

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Speaker 1: they just couldn't resign, so they were in a position

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Speaker 1: got hurt and Pat Farmers, who they really like, of course,

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Speaker 1: which was a great pick and it shows why they

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Speaker 1: had such a high grade on him. Yeah, um, you

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Speaker 1: know who's in and played very well. But yeah, you know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert was saying yesterday last year was the worst

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Speaker 1: free agency year. They had so many free agents and

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Speaker 1: they had a low cap a hundred two millions, worst

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Speaker 1: year that he's had with since he came in two thousands,

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Speaker 1: and that most teams that ends up being the two

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Speaker 1: or three win season. That's gonna do for hour one, Matt,

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