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Speaker 1: The guys from Ping.

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Speaker 2: They've kind of showed me how much the equipment matters.

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Speaker 2: I just love that I can hit any shot I

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Speaker 2: kind of want.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about

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Speaker 3: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, I'm Shane Baker, Marty Jertsen with me. We

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Speaker 2: are going to look into our golf bags and see

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Speaker 2: where we're playing a lot of new gear for Pings.

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Speaker 2: So I have almost entirely new gear in the bag.

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Speaker 1: What about you same?

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Speaker 3: I think like pretty fresh anything that anything dated in

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Speaker 3: this bag?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 3: I think my driver three wood thing we're gonna talk

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Speaker 3: about the most exciting in my five wood. Those are

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Speaker 3: probably my oldest clubs in the bag I've had for

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe nine months.

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Speaker 1: Well let's start.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with what you get the most excited about

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Speaker 2: in that is driver, Probably the most exciting driver that

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Speaker 2: I've had in a long time. I'm Max ten K.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming your Max ten K is one oka been playing.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I've been playing this tour two point

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Speaker 2: zero cheft from sixty five. I think this is seventy five.

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Speaker 2: I've been playing it, I think since the last iteration

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Speaker 2: the driver, and I'm obsessed with it. I'm nine degree

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Speaker 2: with the driver. I think you've got a little more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the ten to five, but I'm in the

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Speaker 3: big minus, which means turns it down one point five degrees.

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Speaker 1: So it's like net nine.

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Speaker 2: Net nine.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you just now?

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, why don't you just

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Speaker 2: play nine?

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Speaker 3: So if you put it, if you put the ten

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Speaker 3: five in the big minus, you're gonna open the face

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Speaker 3: angle just slightly right. So I have a lot of

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Speaker 3: things going on in my driver and not hit it left. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's my kind of thing. I fight my technique. So

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Speaker 3: I like the ten to five in the big minus

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Speaker 3: opens the face a little bit interesting.

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Speaker 1: I like how that sits down.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, how did you figure

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Speaker 2: that out? You know, I mean versus somebody that's going

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Speaker 2: to get fit for a driver. How do you figure

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Speaker 2: out to tweak that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's one of actually the benefits of

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Speaker 3: having our trajectory tuning sleeve. You can use it to

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Speaker 3: tweak the loft. But as you're tweaking the loft and

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Speaker 3: putting the shaft in at a different angle, it's changing

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Speaker 3: the touch point on the ground, so it's moving the

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Speaker 3: touch point more forward.

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Speaker 1: Then when the head.

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Speaker 3: Grab the acts on the head, it okay, rocks the

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Speaker 3: face a little bit more open, and it also kind

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Speaker 3: of points the face angle at a dress slightly more open.

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Speaker 3: Do the because the club has loft on it, you're

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Speaker 3: de lofting, it opens the face face fractionally as.

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Speaker 1: Well, every little half a degree matter. Sham.

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Speaker 2: Your bag is incredible. All right, Let's show the funniest,

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Speaker 2: coolest club in your bag.

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Speaker 1: All right, the funnest one.

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Speaker 3: My driver, now my driver at the ten k I'm

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Speaker 3: playing close to forty six inches right, It's like forty

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Speaker 3: five and seven eighths, which is fun because I'm because

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Speaker 3: the inert is really high. I'm trying it a little

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Speaker 3: Its okay, so far, it's going pretty straight. So most

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Speaker 3: people are expected a three wood out of the head

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Speaker 3: cover exactly, not three exactly. So let's start with the

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Speaker 3: genesis and how this happened. Okay, we're right put the

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Speaker 3: back of the bag. You know. It's oh yeah, So

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Speaker 3: we were running some stats, and I was wondering. I

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Speaker 3: was just thinking about my game, and I'm like, in

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Speaker 3: Arizona Golf, how many times do I hit threewood off

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Speaker 3: the tee? Because I was kind of struggling with three

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Speaker 3: this and I got like ten or twenty rounds in

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Speaker 3: hit this thing off the ground like twice. And so

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Speaker 3: then we started mining everyone's data. Okay, okay, and that's

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Speaker 3: I think We've talked about this on a few episodes

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Speaker 3: where if you hit it shorter, you hit your three

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Speaker 3: were off the ground A lost sure. If you hit

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Speaker 3: it three hundred yards on an average flips right of

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Speaker 3: the time off the tee, Well, in Arizona Golf, I

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Speaker 3: the tee. So I was like, I'm gonna build this

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Speaker 3: fun little thing, which is let me get more inertia

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Speaker 3: hit my three woods. So I got a twelve degree

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Speaker 3: G four to thirty max CG shifter in the fade.

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Speaker 3: And this thing is only forty two and three quarters

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Speaker 3: inches long, and I got the same shaft do you

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Speaker 3: have in your driver there? Two or two point oho

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Speaker 3: seventy five black Shane. This thing is the funnest thing.

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Speaker 2: You hit it off the ground too.

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Speaker 1: It's very functional off the ground.

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Speaker 3: I made a few eagles off the ground by I

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Speaker 3: could build to go as long as I want I

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Speaker 3: need it to. I mean, you're kind of constrained by

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Speaker 3: what you can hit with your driver, but I build

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Speaker 3: it to go about two seventy and a lot of

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Speaker 3: times I tea it really low. And if I'm nervous

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Speaker 3: in my tendency with the three wood, even though we

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Speaker 3: have all these fitting options, is kind of get underneath it.

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Speaker 3: Some had technique things and hit it to the left.

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Speaker 3: I find so many fairways with this thing. It's incredible.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of your fairwyfinder. That's the fairy find.

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Speaker 1: Totally my fairy finder.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little more traditional. Next up, what do you

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Speaker 2: ad just a three wood? I didn't. I didn't like.

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Speaker 2: This is G four thirty by the way, lst Yeah,

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Speaker 2: love this thing. Beautiful, beautiful in terms of sitting in

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Speaker 2: the address, and I like a little bit more low

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Speaker 2: profile with my three wood, So I love this thing.

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Speaker 2: The Max is great, but again, and to me, I

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Speaker 2: found it as much as much as I'm hitting off

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Speaker 2: the ground, I wanted to go LST versus the Max.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, LST so LST tie body, it's really built like

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Speaker 3: a driver but supercharged tie body, tungsten soul plate, tons

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Speaker 3: of masks in the soule plate CG really really low.

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Speaker 3: And that's a good mix of good off the ground,

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Speaker 2: Our next clubs. A lot of the clubs in our bag,

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Speaker 2: especially irons and wedges, are similar, but this is where

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Speaker 2: we're different. You're five wood next? Is that right?

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Speaker 3: And I'm kind of like some of the tour players

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Speaker 3: I play mine at like forty one and seven eighths

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Speaker 3: and that shorter helps me keep it a little bit lower,

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Speaker 3: take a little bit distance off. And again I have

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Speaker 3: the tour two point zero black seventy five.

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Speaker 2: What's that thing fly?

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Speaker 1: This thing flies like two fifty five.

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Speaker 3: But I have a lot of versatility, like I can

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Speaker 3: hit a soft spinny cut with it if I want to.

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Speaker 1: I can turn it if I want to. What do

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Speaker 1: you got in that spot?

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Speaker 2: I've been a crossover guy. I had this seven wood

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Speaker 2: but I've been playing crossover since you guys introduced Yeah,

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Speaker 2: get away from it. When I start to spray it

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Speaker 2: lean on the crossover heavily. So I go three iron crossover.

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Speaker 2: I think it flies kind of like a traditional two

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Speaker 2: fifty range for me. And again it's like to your

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Speaker 2: twelve degree driver. This is kind of my fairway finder

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Speaker 2: when I need it and I like it. I can

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Speaker 2: it like kind of stingy if I need to sting it,

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Speaker 2: and I can hit the bullet cut too. So big

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Speaker 2: crossover fan, and I have the two iron as well,

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Speaker 2: but I typically lean on the three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was looking at your hostle setting, so you got

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Speaker 3: then denote that it's a lefty hossele Ye stock setting.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the cool things that our fitters

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Speaker 2: So we are in the same iron, but before we

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Speaker 2: a different situation with my four iron. I two thirty,

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Speaker 2: just again a little bit more forgiving. I could hit

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Speaker 2: a little higher in the air. Big fan of this club.

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Speaker 2: This was when I got my new set of things

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Speaker 2: and it still remains one of my favorites. So one

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Speaker 2: of the last remaining clubs that I have considering the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm playing the blueprint s four iron and

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Speaker 3: one thing I do, Shane a little bit different. We

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Speaker 3: foreign with your foreign, and I think we did is

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Speaker 3: went a little bit longer. Yep, right, So I'm playing mine.

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Speaker 3: When I start transitioning my lengths, starting at the four

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Speaker 3: five six, I go three quarters of an inch increments

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Speaker 3: instead of traditionally your irons would be a half inch

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Speaker 3: longer per club, so I get just a little extra

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Speaker 3: speed boost, a little extra dynamic loft boost, and that's

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Speaker 3: really helped me. I actually also play a different shaft

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Speaker 3: in my foreign really, so I'm playing the KBS Tour

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Speaker 3: X in my fore iron and then I transition to

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Speaker 3: X one hundreds. I think your foe iron can kind

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Speaker 3: of be treated as like that. It's like your transition club.

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Speaker 3: It can be a little different model. You can maybe

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Speaker 3: more kick in it. So I think for players of

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Speaker 3: something a little bit different, you know, little longer lank,

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Speaker 2: You mentioned blueprint ass That's what I'm playing as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this out there. Likely to

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Speaker 2: be the most popular irons of twenty twenty four, and

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Speaker 2: for good reason, seeing a lot of players put these

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Speaker 2: in the bag quickly fall in love with them quickly.

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Speaker 2: I was the same way I got them in the

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Speaker 2: mail before a golf trip. I didn't hit them one time,

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Speaker 2: took them to the golf trip, loved him. Made some

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Speaker 2: verdies with them, hit them close. Beautiful, beautiful iron.

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Speaker 3: Shane, I'm kind of with you. I think this is

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Speaker 3: gonna be the player's iron in twenty twenty four and beyond.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think what you've seen on the PGA tour,

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Speaker 3: the iron category. We've learned from some and brought in

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Speaker 3: some of our great characteristics of our previous blade style irons.

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Speaker 3: And what's fun, Shane, is when you when I put

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Speaker 2: And that's the grind.

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Speaker 1: The tea grind is absolutely perfect.

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Speaker 3: Now, one other thing Shane I do that's a little

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Speaker 3: So if you see, if you're a golfer that struggles

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Speaker 2: It's kind of been the way I played on wedges

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Speaker 3: I think the s grind is perfect for you because

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Speaker 3: like like plenty of variety, but you don't do anything

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Speaker 3: I think it was fun for us to work on

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Speaker 1: To like a mid mallet. Now I'm a long putter guy.

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Speaker 2: You know, I and played around which, By the way,

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Speaker 3: I've been a long putter for like twenty years. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Did anchor previously I had.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the first year was a little tough on that,

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Speaker 3: my putter is now about an inch and a half shorter,

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Speaker 3: Use a claw grip, and I have the Oslow PLD

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Speaker 3: I still wrote hate the face a little bit, so

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Speaker 3: it's very important. That's like the principle and putter fitting

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Speaker 3: So this thing, though, is about four hundred and ninety grams.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't look big, man, but this thing is solid

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Speaker 3: and long. Single alignment line. I use a line on

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Speaker 3: marries it up there. And I love the way this

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Speaker 2: I mean that thing will push you over fifty pounds

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Speaker 2: when you're traveling. I mean you have to pay extra

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Speaker 2: stuff we have in the bag. But there's obviously some

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