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Oh scraped during one of the 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:45.080 two joint practices. 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.440 Sirianna doesn't want that smoke, not at all. 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.600 When Paul played sports, he didn't like the raw rod. Guys, no, 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:51.680 I deny it. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:52.280 I did. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.720 You did, But I wasn't try hard because I didn't 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:57.480 have the ability to not do. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.000 Paul, Wait in your life, you didn't try. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.080 I tried, believe me. 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:04.920 I don't know. I don't know. I wasn't a lack 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.119 of effort away from being in the major leagues, right. 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.679 That's not what Tommy di Debosa told me. Ever, tics, 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.080 poison IVY and Mosquitos, why do we need them? The 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.600 ecosystem would be fine if we eliminate those three. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:18.920 I don't think that's true. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.479 I know it is starting at YouTube, and we'll see 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.520 if we have to branch out. I have an onlyfan 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:29.039 so well that you know, listen, I'll be doing it 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:30.560 at bare feet and selling my. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.480 Socks bare feet and selling my socks. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:35.640 Is that how only fens works? 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:42.280 This is Patriot's Unfiltered, presented by Toyota dot Com. All right, 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:47.040 welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Jules Stadium. 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.880 The gang's all here at Evans Paul. It's me, It's Duce, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.680 it's Alex, it's Matt and the booth getting ready for 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.600 the season. I can tell. I can tell, you know, 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.040 everyone's starting to get a little bit anxious, a little 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.880 bit excited, right. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:00.840 And we're all here. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:05.640 We're all here. Yeah, passed the conditioning test this morning. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:11.559 Yeah, I did the run tell I passed it flying colors, right, Yeah, yeah, 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:18.520 I'm just picturing Evan doing I've actually I actually wanted 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:23.320 to do it, like I wanted to, like as content, they. 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.520 Have a section where you waddle, because you. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.400 Know, I just I feel like there's two things like 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.320 that are like running the Hills. I feel like it 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.200 would be like fun content to. 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.839 Make fun for who God for. 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:37.320 For me to be laughed at. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:39.239 I can be laughed at that. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.120 We're going to do it of your music playing in 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:44.200 the background. 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.400 Like can Evan pass the conditioning test? No? 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:48.240 No he can't. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.560 All right, Well, anyways. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:52.760 So it is Thursday. 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.799 In two days. Gotta hurry, we are going to be 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.480 live at practice. 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.639 It's hard to believe we're talking about in two days 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.520 we're going to be live at practice. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:05.240 Uh. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:09.200 Here on patriot dot Com and YouTube. I just went 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.959 out there. Matt and his crew were putting together our set. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.880 So it's here, it's. 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.639 Here, absolutely trains running. Yeah, let's me get on. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.480 Got some new names signed to the roster yesterday. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:26.919 Uh Mitch over that, Yeah, Mitch van Voren is one 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.040 and then as well as a linebacker. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:29.760 From the family. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:31.200 Yeah. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.680 Uh so a couple of depth moves there, nothing really 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:36.760 moving the needle. I would say, just you know, guys 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:37.640 who were going to compete. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:39.920 I think we all expected. They let go of a 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:40.960 fan favorite day. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.160 I was gonna see, I was gonna you buried the lead. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:45.040 You sold this real. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.240 Estate on brock Lampy Island and unfortunately you sold high. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.240 Yeah, we sold high on on Brock. We we found 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.240 a listen. I I don't need to, you know, make 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.240 fun of brock Lampy. But as soon as we signed 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.560 Reggie Gilliam, the island really changed names quickly to. 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.640 Appreciate in value and the two full back offense. Though 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.119 we were we were a little bit curious about. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:08.160 Yea, Wherston Island is still going great. We're still we're 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.680 actually adding people to that island based off of catch 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.400 twenty two yesterday, so we're going good. But yeah, brock 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.920 Lampy did not make much sense to carry two full 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:18.719 backs for too long. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:20.400 So that one I think make. 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:20.839 We'll catch on. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:22.839 But you know a lot of these guys they get 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.839 cut and they tell them, you know, don't don't pack 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:26.360 up yet. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:27.160 You never know. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.279 Sure, I think you'd be a good fallback should anything 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.120 happen to to Reggie Gilliam. But getting things in order, 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.599 and you know, we had a few pup lists as well, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.120 you know, Harold Landry being the most notable one. Uh 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.960 you know, to me, just I don't I don't know 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.920 where to draw the line. Because we talked to Vrabel 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:45.240 in the spring and he just kind of said, like, 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.440 Harold Learner's gonna be fine. He doesn't need to to 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.880 be here. But I think it's a really thin position. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:51.680 Gay accus Where's he? 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.360 We don't know? That's the one. So those are the 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:55.159 two big questions. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.880 Aunt Landry will be fine, But acis is a mystery. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:00.719 You know what's going on there? I don't. 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.599 Well, we had Burke Beer saying that it could it 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.240 could be something of a redst year was what he said, 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:07.599 which really freaked me out. 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.320 Has he posted from the squat rack? 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:10.440 There's no more squats. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.680 He's posted hanklings plenty of workout videos of himself on 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.120 his own socials this offseason. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.359 So I have no idea what's going on with that one. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:24.520 It's so weird because in Fortune Foxbury he saw all 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.479 the video of him, you know, being so excited, you know, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:28.560 get me the playbook. 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:29.359 I'm ready to go. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:31.760 Oh, by the way, I'm gonna have surgery that you 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:36.160 guys didn't know about it. We don't maybe maybe, yeah, yeah, 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:36.599 that's that's. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.840 Mike Rees has reported that he's coming off of a 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:39.719 knee procedure. 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.760 Whether they knew about it or not, we don't know. 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:43.880 The mechanics of it all. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.000 But the bottom line was that was the guy we 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.520 were all most excited about, and we thought that they 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:49.839 needed that he fit. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:50.560 I mean, the. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.440 Calls on Forcen Foxborough was rabel like, you already got 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.560 the attitude. I mean, they, you know, everybody could see 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.720 the way the guy plays is how they the Patriots 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:58.200 want to play. 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.480 And now there's this big mystery around it. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.400 I've never experienced anything like this before, especially with the 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.359 rookie slotting. You figure the contract shouldn't be that hard, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.839 but it seems like there's a lot of complications going 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.680 on right now and I don't really know what the 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.560 solution is or when the solution will come. The Redscher 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.080 year makes it to me sound like, at the very best, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.080 he's not coming back until maybe the start of the season, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.760 and then they've got to start to work them in. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.040 It's not a great way for a rookie to I mean, 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.360 I still think that there's an avenue for him to 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.919 be a contributor in year one, but it's not the 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.479 best way to start. I mean, he missed the entire 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:37.600 offseason program and you know camp, you know for rookies. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:44.120 They reported on Tuesday and he hasn't, so I don't 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:45.760 know how this is going to unfold. But it's not 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.240 a great way to start as a rookie. And Mike 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.919 is right like, it's not necessarily like, oh that's the 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.880 that's the best player they drafted. No, he had the 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:58.680 best road for media contribution because it's a thin spot 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.120 that they need. You know, they've done a good job 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.880 of bolstering the roster, you know, top to bottom, but 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.400 that's one area I think and I'm. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:06.839 Not as. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.160 I'm not as willing to just overlook the fact that 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.600 Landry's going to start on pup as Fred is. I'm 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:15.880 not worried about Landry as a veteran being ready to 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.920 go if he's physically up to speed. I'm not worried 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:23.000 about him missing practice time. But pup means he's not 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.120 able to practice yet wells. 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.400 But plenty of guys start on pup and then. 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.920 Yes they do, and when they come off pup, that's 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:31.840 when I stop worrying. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.800 Okay, I'm less concerned about the immediate with the pup 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.560 with him, and more concerned about in December and January 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:38.400 is going. 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.680 To be I worried that that injury is significantly. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.760 He's not part of the maintenance though, of why he 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.160 would start on PUP, just. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.640 Because that's how Rabel really massaged it in off season, 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.720 his off season availabilities, you know, to Mike earlier. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.280 And that's if he wasn't on a list and he 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.880 wasn't practicing regularly, I wouldn't have any concern at all. 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:00.680 They don't have to put him on PUP. It's not 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:02.720 like they get a roster spot for putting him on PUP. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:09.240 They don't. So that's my concern, Alex, is that Mike 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.920 sort of let it be known this is you know, 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:13.560 they did it last year with him, and I thought 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.760 it worked pretty well for him. In Morgan, Moses and 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.280 No far More, I think was a little of that. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.440 There was some guys that they had to monitor for 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:24.240 different reasons, and I think it really worked well. The 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.080 fact that he's on a list tells me he's not 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.960 ready to practice yet. Whether they want to massage him 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.679 or not, he's not ready to go yet. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.680 So I'm a little concerned about that. You know me, 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.679 I get more about this stuff than you guys too. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.760 I'm concerned about him from a big picture standpoint. I 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.240 think we're saying the same thing a little differently, Like in. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.480 Other words, the fact that he's on PUP tells me 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.280 there's a significant injury that could be a problem for 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:46.480 you in December. 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.480 I mean the first five six weeks of the season. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.680 Last year, he looked great, yep, and then an injury 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.760 happened in New Orleans and he was never the It's. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.680 Like a new threat, not really a new thread. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.960 It's regularly I was gonna say what it's gonna do. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:00.920 It was not the same player, And you know, we 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.040 were talked about it yesterday on the show, Like just 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.839 to get him to be active for the Super Bowl 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.920 was like a huge undertaking, just to make sure that 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.600 he could dress as like a you know, show of 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.319 good fate that he was dressing in the game. I 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.319 wasn't really sure he was going to play at all 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.400 this year, Like retirement I thought was maybe on the 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.960 table for him. And now he's coming back and he 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.240 sits out the spring and he's on PUP. I just 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.360 I think that whole position is like, well, where are 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.200 they going to get the juice out of that spot? 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.200 Like you think dra Mun Johs is going to be 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.640 like steady, like he's going to be a solid player 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.160 for them, but is he going to be a double 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.680 digit sack guy? And like, really, you know, get after 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:46.000 the quarterback. You know, Elijah Ponder, that's everybody's you know, 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:51.160 circle breakout candidate, you know camp star. We'll see I 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.720 mean Braden Swinson, Yeah, maybe. 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.760 I mean it was a concern all off season. 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.080 I mean I remember talking about it last year and saying, 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.680 this is a position they're going to have to address. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.640 They addressed it, but you know, you're not You don't 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.000 know what you're going to get out of Actus, And 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.360 I think Evan's to your point. It's just my biggest 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.320 thing is if this is a team with Super Bowl aspirations, 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.160 is that defensive end group going to be peaking at 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.200 the end of January or are you going to have to, 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.480 you know, do what you did with Morgan Moses and 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.400 those guys, and you're gonna constantly have to be managing 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.280 Harold Landry. I like Harol Landry. I'd like to believe 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:21.880 that he could get back to that point, but I 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.120 don't think it's arguable that he's on the back side 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.160 of his career and you very well might have seen 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.880 his best days. So it's it's a key position, and 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:30.800 I just think we're gonna be talking a ton about 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:31.560 it over the next. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.480 I just wonder what Landry My like silver lining of 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:38.400 hope with him is that maybe they try to flip 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.800 flop his season where the first couple of months of 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:44.680 this season he doesn't really play a ton and there's 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.719 out a ton of it because they're actually saving him 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.800 for January, so that maybe the first six. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.560 Weeks not a bad point of. 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.920 Last season happened at the end of the season instead 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:54.400 of that's. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.360 Why I've start him acting like everything's fine in order 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:57.760 to put. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:01.600 Him on pup. Yeah, you have to open camp on pup. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.440 So maybe to Evan's point, maybe they want to give 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.160 him take September off. 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:08.040 We'll put you on pup. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.800 You can't play, but hopefully we'll have you healthy and 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:12.200 ready to go. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.680 How do you guys remember like Bill managing that defense 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.920 as it got older, you know, two thousand and seven, 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:20.800 two thousand and eight, you know, guys like Rabel and 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.680 Bruski and Harrison, you know, did did he take similar 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.520 kind of steps or were they like full bore right 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:26.760 from the get go and camp. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.880 I mean it was different veteran days off or you know, 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.080 a big, big part of that. I think McGuinness was 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.400 really a guy that that started it. 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:38.280 But yeah, as they got older, on his own, not. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.400 With the coach. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.520 Yeah, but I think guess they got older, you know, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.160 veteran days off. Rodney was a guy who you know, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.160 every once in a while you just would be doing 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.800 much at practice, you know, kind of like what you 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:51.880 saw Mike do last year. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:53.240 Yeah, they had a bunch of those guys. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:53.800 I mean some of it. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.199 I don't mind when a younger player gets an opportunity, 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.199 like it's gonna be great for Elijah Ponder to get 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.760 a chance, But I just think that's a position where 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.200 they need talent and they need production, and that's the 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:04.160 bottom line. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:08.120 So, speaking of Belichick, I have to tell you about 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.800 this dream I had last night that included Belichick, and 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:17.400 it'll show you how traumatized I was over those twenty years. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.480 So the dream takes place in present day, but he's 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.040 still he's the coach. 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.679 And we're still doing the newspaper. So I get word 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.520 that the coach is really pissed at you. He wants 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.880 to talk to you. Oh no, and he's so pissed. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.800 He has a new rule that when you guys screw up, 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.800 he's taking it out on the regular media. And he's 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:42.559 pulled Chris Gasper's credentials because of yours screw up. And 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:47.160 so yeah, yeah, So I'm like, oh, this is this 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.200 is this is worse than me getting like he's taking 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.400 it out on them because of stuff. So I'm trying. 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:52.439 I'm racking my brain. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:53.080 What did we do? 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.440 I have no idea, you know, And I'm going through 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.440 the last issue of the paper and it's like, well, 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.280 we talked about Gonzalez's contract. 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.160 Could he be mad at about that? I mean, that's 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.120 we we have to talk about that. 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:04.920 That's a big story, Like what is it? 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:05.520 What is it? 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:10.760 So finally our CMO, Jen Farren, I tell her, I said, yeah, 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.200 I heard the coaches mad because yeah, I heard too. 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.040 I know why. I said why? 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.880 And she pointed to this section that we had in 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.080 the beginning of the newspaper called press gems, And I 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.160 guess it was us taking things that the press said 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.840 and just highlighting them, like whether they were so ridiculous 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.000 or whatever, just to show what they're saying. And I 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:32.959 don't know who the writer was, but it was really 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.840 cheap shots. It was you know, at best, this is 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.840 this roster is a talent, is a you know a 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:41.960 bunch of misfits and blah blah blah. So you know, 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:43.680 it was like take but we put it in there 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.080 to get people riled up, like you know how bad 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:51.200 this is. So the dream in my mind ends with 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.640 me thinking, Okay, I'll be able to explain this, but 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:59.199 how do I get GASPS credentials? Yeah, that's that's how 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.560 That's how screwed up we got over the last one. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.000 Can I ask you did that happened to you a lot? 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.600 Like over the years, did you have like these random 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.120 dreams about Bill being mad or whatever a little bit? Yeah, 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:16.560 Constant really like not the same details as that, but 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:22.160 like Bill wants to see you, Bill confronting me, flashed 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.160 back to the elevator, going to the press conference that 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.000 I still have over. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.560 There are people here that I'm convinced they're going to 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.560 pass the trauma they got from Bill down like in 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.560 their DNA like for generations. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.920 Oh, it's definitely Belichick post trauma. Whatever you want to 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:42.320 call it. It affected the whole organization. I think I 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.160 think we're still recovering that that. Ye, some of the 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.040 attitudes and things are still like. 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:48.720 He's not here anymore. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.440 You don't have to worry about that. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.600 Especially with a lot of people that we deal with 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.920 in content that have been around a long time. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.960 Yeah, people still have kind of that. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:01.560 I don't know, we can't do that. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:02.960 Oh no, we can do that. 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:07.000 I would say a dozen, maybe a half dozen to 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.360 a dozen times a year, like I would have a 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:15.120 random Jellette stadium type dream, and sometimes they were positive. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:16.880 Sometimes Bill was really happening. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.840 Yeah about there was. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:24.160 Some good even more because there were times like when 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.840 we would do like before like preseason games, like you 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.840 know when when we're getting ready because we produce our 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:35.440 own preseason games, and we would do like production meetings 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.920 and Bill would be in there, and Bill often incorporated 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.880 me into something that he was talking about, Like we'd 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.240 be talking about like a cornerback and he got you know, 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.720 like you know, Paul's going down for patio get up, 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.880 and he would show like the technique of. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.440 Not looking back for the ball but playing through the 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.720 guy's hands and staying in FaZe and this, and like 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.680 I was always like like I'm his you. 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.000 Know, his whipping boy that knows he can do anything, 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.400 but like in a good way. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:03.640 Yeah, it was in a good way. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.520 And I would have these like random dreams like you 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.120 know you like you did a really good job at that. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.000 Yeah, yeah, even though I know we didn't. 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.640 Okay, well i'd wake up. No, No, that didn't happen. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.160 What is the psychology, Like there's a psychological meaning behind 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.320 that somewhere I'm going to analyze that. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.560 Well, never accept Yeah, you know. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:23.880 From your father figure back then. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.880 It wasn't that long ago that we stopped the newspaper. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.200 But while we were doing the newspaper, I mean it's 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.560 a weekly newspaper that you know, we're doing thirty two 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.800 to forty forty eight page newspaper and we're really really 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.240 covering the team in depth, and it's your life. You know, 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.400 the game's over, you're doing an overnight. You get that 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.240 issue out and you're immediately working on the next issue. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.640 So you're you're so ingrained, and I can understand why 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.720 you would have it was always about it always, It's 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.880 always on your mind, like there's always a deadline you're 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:56.080 always hitting, you know. 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.080 I think Paul would have liked your dream scenario though, 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.160 because you could get things in the paper and get 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.600 this media guy like Bill, get him right, flog him right. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:06.280 Oops, we did it again. 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.160 You're gonna have to buy it's an empty press box. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.200 And he just looked across what he had done and 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.640 was satisfied. I will cover the team now. 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.919 Sorry, guys, you do you think like not that it's 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.200 to be the last You're okay, not woe as any 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.200 of it, but like I think about this team and 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.160 the job twenty four to seven, like. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:33.040 And even you know, it's it's actually like hard. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.560 To not think about this team. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.760 Like a sixteen year old thinks about girls, you know, Yeah, 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:38.840 it's always on. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.080 Everything, always on your mind. 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.640 I am like the meme that's like he's probably thinking 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.040 about other girls, and it's like the. 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:47.880 Backup left guard. 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.439 I just don't know if it's good enough, you know, 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.639 like that that's no that that like when I was 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.520 just on vacation recently and I have to really like 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.760 tell myself to stop thinking about it. 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:00.920 Did tweet that much? 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:01.920 Yeah? I had. 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:06.119 My screen time was down sixty percent, very proud of 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:07.280 that's a big number. 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.840 Yeah, I was. I basically cut my e I. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.040 Would your screen time mid season. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:14.320 No, you don't. 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.720 I wouldn't know, but it's you know, you'd laugh at mine. 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:18.919 That that's the job though, you know. 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.800 So that's how I justify it, is that I'm on 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:23.920 my phone because it used to listen. 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.080 Those who are passionate like you are the ones that 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.840 are going to be successful. Oh thanks, Fred, No, I'm serious, 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.639 keep the passion if that's what you really loved, can 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:33.600 you know? 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:34.160 Yeah? 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.679 So is this your way of telling us that we're 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.160 normal for having these abnormal dreams about? 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.080 No, we are normals. Yeah we are. 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.400 No. I mean, like I said, I can understand why 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:48.240 we did, because, like every day was what's next, what's next? 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.800 Here's the deadline? You get done done with that one, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:52.360 You're immediately onto the next one. 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:53.880 Did you ever have the dream when you can't run? 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:54.240 Oh? 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:55.879 Yeah, well, I mean I was going to bring up 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:57.439 it's just right in the genre of and we all 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.399 probably have it playing sports that like you have a 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.080 game about starting you can't find the right equipment, like 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.520 I have that dream exam everywhere. 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.840 For me, it's I'm going into a final at BU 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:08.440 and I was not at the class all year. 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.080 I'm about to graduate. 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:15.159 I'm about to graduate and my counselor tells me, you 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.160 didn't go to this class once. I'm like, I didn't 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.560 know that class was on my schedule and I'm failing 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.840 it and it's like I can't graduate college. That's a 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.960 reoccurring one, or I'm getting kidnapped napped? Do you I 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.040 have dreams that you guys don't even have to think. 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.320 About as a woman. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:31.320 Yeah, more than. 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.080 I'm being chased and being like yeah, and it's like 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.080 that you can never run fast enough, like you guys 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.520 are dreaming about. Never like in sports, you can't run 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.919 fast enough. I'm like being chased by someone trying to. 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:42.640 Find me by like a creepy Yeah. 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.800 My not being able to run is always in sports, 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:46.440 not not. 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:48.399 Yea from a person. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.560 Yeah, anyway, I just had to because that just happened 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:53.000 last week. 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:54.880 I shared that friend. I wanted to get that out 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.000 before I forgot. You got to work through that, you know, 0:19:58.200 --> 0:19:59.000 it's good to air it. 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:01.320 Why Chris Gasper, I don't know. 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:05.800 I don't know, yeh, p f W guys. 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.480 He doesn't have a pf W. Alum he worked with us. 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:12.440 It's like the thing where they like not only shoot 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.040 the person, but then they shoot the person next to 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:14.640 him to. 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:19.320 Discourage it, or you know that screws up on the 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.200 team and he makes all the teammates do. 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.640 The push ups while he watches. You know, the guilt 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.880 one do you ever have that was happy about it? 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:30.800 What do you mean that's happened? 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:32.919 Every team I've ever played for, they try that, like 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.800 they try to guilt the guy who actually did it 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.840 wrong and he has to watch this one guy, like my. 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.960 Sophomore year football just kick him back because I thought 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:43.240 it was great. I didn't have to run. 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:51.040 Friends than One of the regrets I had was it 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.800 was soccer and they had this like backboard that we 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:59.880 would kick and whoever got the most you know, back 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.560 forth without the ball stopping didn't have to do the 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.320 run at the end, and I got it. 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:06.679 And I regret not going on the. 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.840 Run anyway, because that would have shown, oh, he's going 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:10.359 to do it. 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:12.520 And I was like, Okay, I don't have to run, 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:14.760 but I should have done the run anyway. 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.600 Sure you're an effort guy, Yeah, yeah, why would you 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:18.600 cheat yourself. 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:19.600 The right right? 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.160 Didn't want it, not like I was in the best shape. 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:26.240 I could have used the run. So you do those things. 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.720 You look back and like, I wish I could do 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:29.200 that one over. 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.399 Yeah, I don't think about any of that. 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:41.080 No, No, well, okay, all right, what else? What are 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:43.919 we excited about? We talked about things we're concerned about. 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:49.160 But you know, Saturday comes out, you're out there. What's 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:50.680 the first thing you're going to be looking for? 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.200 A J. Brown? AJ Brown? 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:53.720 Yeah, A J. 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:54.160 Brown. 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:58.240 I just feel like that the more you think about, 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.680 how much that could really elevate the offense and elevate 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.120 them to another level, hopefully even better than they were 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:08.240 last year in some respects that it's an exciting player 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.000 to have and also a guy that I think really 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.680 wants to be here and has wanted to be here 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:16.360 probably since his draft and it didn't work out then, 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:18.520 and it's I think he said in his press conference, 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:21.160 you know, better late than ever, right, and so here 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.080 we are. It's pretty cool that, you know, to have 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:25.760 that sort of connection with the player already and he 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.119 hasn't even played a snap for you yet. To have 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:31.639 him really want to be here and be excited about 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.320 being here, I think that that would be every catch 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:36.199 he makes. I feel like we're going to be tweeting 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:37.920 about it and talking about it, and. 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:40.760 Yep, the very first thing I'll be looking for is 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:41.800 how big is the crowd? 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:42.440 Yeah? 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:44.560 How many people are here? Now it's the first time 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.000 we've ever had our first practice on a Saturday. 0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:48.280 The weather's gonna be gorgeous. 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:53.760 Yeah, so I'm expecting a big turnout, nine thousand. Oh 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:57.240 easily easy. Easily easy, I would. The excitement's back, I mean. 0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:59.520 And they've always had a good turn I don't know, 0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:01.040 since I've generally. 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:02.280 Have really good crowds on weekends. 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.879 Yeah, and even in like the really dark days of 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.160 those two seasons back to back, training camp was still 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.600 fun and hopeful. So I can't imagine what it is 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:12.200 coming off a Super Bowl. 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:16.200 Where can you get that close to a pro football 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:17.160 team for free? 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:17.520 For free? 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:19.919 That's the biggest thing too, It's like, where can you 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.919 do anything great now with your kids or your family 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:23.600 or your friends. 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.000 Yeah, I mean, I was remembers sing yesterday about all 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.040 the times we went to training camp as a fan. 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.200 As you imagined, me and Barth went to training camp 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.240 as a fan quite often. 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:37.760 And matching sweats there was wat I got you. 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:43.160 I mean, core memories of coming to training camp screen 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:47.400 as a kid and it used to be even earlier. 0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:50.439 Sometimes the more you know, nine am practices and you 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:52.880 have to wake up early and go go out to camp. 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:54.919 A kid that camped out the night before, like that 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:57.320 group of kids from Providence that does it every year. 0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.760 I camp out the night before because but I was 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:02.560 you know, I was going to watch, you know, I 0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.040 wasn't going for the autographs or something like that. 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:06.760 You know you're going, You're like, I don't want to 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.000 be front row. I can't see from tell to. 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:10.280 Figure what schemes they're running. 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.760 You know who's who hoped? You know who's the next 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:16.520 Zach Sudfelder. You know Riley McKay. 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:18.320 Where stand when you were a fan? 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:19.760 I usually in. 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.920 The end zone, like on the hill there behind the 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:26.200 the that was usually our spot of right there. 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:27.639 Spot, that's the best. 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.800 He nailed it when you were going. 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:34.800 Do you remember seeing us? 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:35.480 Not as much? 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:35.800 No. 0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:42.240 I remember seeing like the media tent and wondering what 0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.760 that was and like asking my dad, hey, like what. 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:46.960 Are those people? Do you know? 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:47.840 And that was sort of. 0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.399 What put especially once I got into like middle school, 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.879 I would say, uh, you know, that's sort of what 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:54.640 put my mind on it of like oh, you can 0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.919 do that as a job, Like that's pretty cool. So 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.960 but yeah, I do remember that for and I remember, 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.040 you know, the all the radio you guys are ninety 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.080 five or whatever doing broadcast from training camp, you know, 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.840 and I'm listening to those as well. But we used 0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:12.480 I used to go as many times as I could 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.720 in the summertime, you know, probably went to four or 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.520 five practices the year. And yessterday, I was telling the 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.720 one about the one, uh the joint practice with Tampa 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:21.840 where Brady got hurt. 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:23.680 And yeah, I was at that one. 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:25.080 Yeah, so that was tough. 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.399 Hush fell over there. Yeah, I used to go to 0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:29.280 I used to go too. 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.639 I mean, I think my first pilgrimage was like twenty 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.639 fourteen or like, I got to go to training camp practice, 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:35.720 but I got to shout out pulse blobservations. I love 0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.639 always reading what he rose streets after the practices. I 0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.640 thought that was, you know, one of the must read 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:43.040 things that you know. And I don't know why I 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:44.600 thought this, but I remember when I started working, I 0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:45.880 was like, no, I feel like I see the game 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:47.760 similarly to Paul, Like I always thought, like, I don't 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:48.760 know why I thought that. 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:49.600 Like I mean, I guess we do. 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.280 I don't know, but but I always that was always a. 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:52.919 Must read for me. 0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:55.240 And as being in California, you know, you get all 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.880 the tweets and you just that's how you compile everything. 0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.919 And you know, that was my biggest FOMO when I 0:25:59.960 --> 0:26:02.400 was blogging, was just like I wish I was there, 0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.560 you know. And I remember when I got the job 0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.960 and I hadn't started yet, but camp had started. I 0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.600 remember sitting in the media tent and you guys were 0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:12.600 doing like live radio, you Eric, Meghan and you two, 0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:14.720 and you know, being like, wow, this is pretty cool, 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:16.199 Like I'm going to be on with those guys, and 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.200 you know, it was that was when it all started 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.480 to feel feel real. But it's it's super fun. It's 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.320 a great take. I mean, it'll be super fun. Like 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.600 Saturday morning, I'll be so excited. Then by about an 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:26.240 hour and a half into the practice, I'll be like, Okay, 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:27.199 when's the past practice? 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:28.040 When's the brats? 0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.520 But you know, you just it keeps you kind of 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:32.840 wish you could get those first four over with, but 0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:34.359 you know, it's all part of the process. 0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.639 The only thing we don't look forward to is when's 0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:38.080 that first preseason. 0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:41.280 Game, right right, But I am really interested to see 0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:43.920 what the crowd is like just coming off a Super Bowl. 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:45.840 I mean, I think there was a lot of optimism 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:47.520 last year that they were going to start to build 0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.320 something good, but I don't think anybody obviously expected them 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.119 to be as good as they were. And now that 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.119 you're starting to have some star power, it's people you 0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.120 want to come see. You want to come see a j. Brown, 0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.399 You want to come see Drake May. And I remember 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:01.800 sitting when we're watching Brady back in the day, being like, 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:03.680 how cool is this? You get to come be right 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:05.919 next to Tom Brady, and you know, even as you 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:07.840 get farther away from that, it's just wow. You got 0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.440 to take advantage of these opportunities to especially the joint 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.680 practices with the Colts and the Eagles. What I mean competitive, 0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.040 I mean, don't waste your money in the preseason. 0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:17.560 Go to that. Go to that and you're going to 0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:19.280 see all you need to do and go to the 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.600 preseason game. Yeah yeah, but that's at. 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.720 Least watch on TV and the bobs just count. 0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.040 If you want to talk about a good take, those 0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.560 joint practices will be really cool. 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.119 I mean past I would. I would guess they're going 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.359 to be representation will. 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.359 Be national media people will be there just because of 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.359 the optics of Big Jays. 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.719 Yeah, Alex, did you ever go to training camp practice 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.720 before you were in a Western mask? 0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:46.760 That's a long run. 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.800 I covered it, but like, yeah, that's. 0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.800 The only time. I mean, I never I never went 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:53.960 up without covering it. 0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:59.639 I think this is the most anticipation of a training camp, 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.880 excitement of a trading camp since Brady was here. I mean, 0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.360 like last year we thought optimism, but you didn't think 0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.360 super Bowl run. Yeah, I mean I can't really think 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.800 of another, probably twenty nineteen when they won the Super 0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.720 Bowl in eighteen and Brady and we're still going. 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.560 What would be the least amount of success the team 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.520 could have that you would still deem the season to success. 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.280 The least making the playoffs, but maybe. 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.800 Yeah, I would make the plays is good? Yeah, I 0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.720 want to win the AFC East, I agree. 0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.720 Yeah, if they made the playoffs as a wild card, 0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:36.960 Fred's a little higher's Fred's AFC East title or bust? Yeah, 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.960 I would say if they make the playoffs, that that 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:41.600 sort of valid hi program. 0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:42.800 Yeah, if you make. 0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.720 The playoffs and you go on a road playoff game 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:48.360 as a wildcard team to Buffalo or Baltimore or something 0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:51.120 like that and lose, like depends on how If you lose, 0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.000 like the US lost to Belgium, I'll be. 0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.560 Mad, But if you lose in a competitive game, I 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.040 think you'll be mad and disappointed in all that stuff. 0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:02.000 I'm just saying, big picture, they were, you know, so 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.000 far exceeded our expectations last year. What would they have 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:09.200 to do minim minimally to sort of keep the vibes going? 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.360 And I would say, if you don't make the playoffs 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.880 at all, you know, obviously this is barring a rash 0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.920 of injuries. You know, if if you if you lose 0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.320 you know, four or five of your really important players, 0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:21.479 Drake may being one of them, and you don't make 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.400 the playoffs, I don't think anybody's going to say, wow, 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.280 I was a disaster of a season and whatever they've 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:27.080 done well. 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.320 Like how do you think that you know, just on 0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:33.560 that point, like, how do you think Commanders fans feel exactly? 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:37.320 Because you could say Jayden Daniels got hurt and that's 0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.720 why their season went up in flames last year, right, 0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:41.680 But I'd also say that if you look at the 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.800 betting odds of the next head coach fired, Dan Quinn 0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.800 is really high on those lists, right, And I'm not 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.440 saying that about Mike Rabel, but like, if you have 0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.480 a season from hell like that, like Washington had last year, 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:57.160 then the following season becomes a pressure season need results. 0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:58.480 And I think that's where Washington, you. 0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:02.200 Know, and there's a good list of you know, teams 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.360 that lose the Super Bowl that the next year they 0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:08.120 just kind of fall apart, you know, and you don't 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.400 want to be on that list. You want to come 0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.520 back and show that we deserve to be there. It 0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:17.520 was no floke, sustained excellence. I think that's the hardest 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:18.720 thing to do in this league. 0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:20.560 A lot of teams have a great year, they put 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:22.480 together a great free agency class, it all kind of 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.000 comes together, and then maybe it withers a little bit. 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.360 But that to me is what it's about. Is, you know, 0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.240 they did a great job last year on the fly, 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.200 bringing a staff together, a lot of different pieces coming together, 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.719 and it all seemed to work. Can they you know, 0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.840 continue to feel like you have a program, you know? 0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.640 And I feel like that's what they showed last year, 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.560 that they knew what they were doing, so hopefully they 0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.800 were able to keep those vibes going. And I just again, 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:45.480 I expect it to be a little tougher. I expect 0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:47.240 the injuries to be a little bit tougher. I don't 0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:48.920 think the depth is great in a lot of spots. 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.120 There's a couple of key positions. 0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.320 If they lose a guy, it's going to get interesting 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:53.040 really fast. 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:54.680 So we'll see. 0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:56.920 And that's you know, what I'm excited about is just 0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:58.600 to see who's going to surprise us? 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.040 Like, who are we not talking about that? 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.760 Once you get into camp and the pads come on 0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:05.480 and all of a sudden, there's a guy out there 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.240 that or two that, Wow, this guy. 0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:08.840 Can play football. 0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:10.239 Like you know, you're not going to jump out when 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.840 you're out there in shorts and T shirts, but you know, 0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:14.800 and those are the kind of things when they happen, 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:16.440 I think it's a great sign for your program that 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:20.800 you're having guys excel and arise above what you might 0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:21.720 have expected from them. 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:23.000 So the system is working. 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.240 Yeah, they need them. They need them this year, all right. 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.960 Eight five five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast 0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.240 at Patriots dot Com. Is the email address. What are 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.880 you going to be looking for with training camp or 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.480 you know, even if you're not here, what stories are 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:41.640 you expecting to emerge? You know what? What what are 0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.360 your hopes for training camp in particular stay healthy? 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.240 Yeah? Oh geez, you know that's well it's already. 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.400 Nick s Gordon already went on day one of panthers. 0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.240 I mean, I can't stand that. I can't stand the injuries. 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:55.360 It's so frustrated. 0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:59.080 Kyle from Pembroke writes in writing to give Evan a warning, 0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.960 the art of training camp is shirts and shorts. Players 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.760 like Pop and Kyle Williams shine in this time a 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.720 lot like Taekwon Thornton. So don't get taekwond again, Evan. 0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:11.240 It's your kryptonite. 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.120 We talked about it yesterday because we were talking about 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:18.120 those two guys specifically, and Kyle Williams maybe being someone 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:21.680 that is a breakout, your two breakout kind of candidate, 0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.760 And I said, you know, speed guys early in camp. 0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:26.520 I'm not gonna take the cheese. It gonna have to 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:28.800 see it once the pads come on. But you know, 0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.000 I think those two guys popping Kyle Williams offer a 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.560 speed element that you know the other guy's Brown Dobbs, 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:39.800 Booty Hollins that they're not necessarily built like that, so 0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:41.960 they're gonna need one of those guys, I think to 0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:46.600 offer some stretch of the field, speed of element, which 0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:47.000 one is it. 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.520 On a serious note, what young players are you excited 0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.040 to see or hopeful that they take the next step. 0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.960 I'm excited about Braden Swinson. He has hype out of 0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.920 the draft last year, and with Landry and uh Acus 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.120 out he should have opportunities. 0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.040 He will have opportunities. 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:06.920 I want to I have a little bit of a 0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.680 to Mario Douglas take oh pop Yeah? 0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:11.560 Is he popping for you? 0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:15.440 No? I would absolutely sign up right now for a 0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.960 repeat of his year last year. I think that he 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.680 was a valuable part of that as a complimentary piece. 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.760 And I think the problem sort of the perception of 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:27.720 to Mario Douglas being I think is kind of negative 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.400 right now. And I think the reason for that is 0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.760 two years ago, everybody thought that he was something that 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:36.959 he wasn't and he was overrated by the fans, and 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:38.880 I think people felt like he was this one hundred 0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.240 catch guy in the in the you know, the next Edelman, 0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:43.800 the next Welker, and he's going to be a high 0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:45.840 volume slot guy, and I don't really. 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.080 Think that's the strength of his game. 0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.040 I think what he showed last year is he can 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.640 come up in big spots and make big plays when 0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.640 Drake may needs him, and he didn't make every single 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.520 one of them. There was like the fourth the failed 0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:58.920 fourth down against Pittsburgh. 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:00.800 I think that ended that game. 0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:02.320 There was a quick screen to him on a on 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.280 a blitz and he kind of cut the wrong way 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.760 like a bad It was a bad play. No, I'm 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:08.480 just I want to be fair. I'm trying to pump 0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.040 the guy up, but I want to point out some 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.960 of his shortcomings too. I just feel like if you 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.960 think of him as this hundred catch guy like like Edelman, 0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:18.840 you'll be disappointed. But if you think of him for 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.480 what he is, I think he's a valuable part of 0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.600 the offense and he made some big plays for them 0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.239 last year, not the least of which was the fourth 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.839 down touchdown in the Houston playoff game, which I think 0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:33.719 was was huge in that game. Yeah, I think that 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.040 people are kind of sleeping on him and they want to. 0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:38.920 I think they've had enough of him, and I don't 0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:40.520 think it's fair. I think he's a better player than 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:41.440 people give him credit for. 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:42.520 Yeah, I hear what you're saying too. 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.359 It's because he's not the Edelman in that quick note 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:47.879 that you know, but he's more of a speed guy. 0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:49.759 He more of a downfield threat. That was where a 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.560 lot of his plays happened. And just my opinion of 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.839 him in mini camp was he very involved. You know, 0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.359 it seemed Drake was. He was praising him knowing where 0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:57.520 to be. 0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:00.480 Which opposite we heard saying, like, you know, shorts and 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.640 T shirts don't get fooled by Tomrio Douglas. I haven't 0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:06.120 been fooled by Tomarrio Douglas. He looks good in practice 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.359 and he looks good in games when he's called upon. 0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.920 He's not a hundred catch guy like I don't think 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:13.560 that's the way the offense is going to run. And 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.520 I think the biggest part of the reason for that 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.279 is I don't think Drake May wants to do that. 0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:19.759 I don't think he wants to throw one hundred five 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:24.799 yard crossing routes. That's not the to steal Evans line 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.040 about Drake May all the time. That's not his superpower. 0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:28.600 That's not what he does best. 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:29.120 His best. 0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.280 He's had at his best when he's making big plays. 0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:35.000 Yeah, I remember last year writing about it and slipped 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.040 it up. Averaged nine point seven are yards of target 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.240 last year, which is a career high for Tomorrio Douglas. 0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.719 And there was that period of time, especially around that 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.200 New Orleans game where he caught that bomb from Drake 0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:48.640 May in that game where his a dot was just 0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.680 like through the roof. It was like close to twenty 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:52.480 And you know the reason. 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:59.200 Why at average depth of target's learning this stuff, Okay, 0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.759 And I remember talking to him about it and he said, 0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:04.160 you know, this is what I did at Liberty. 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.200 Like at Liberty, I was a vertical slot. I was 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.000 a speed slot down the field, double moves, things like 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:13.920 that Mount cooks And yeah, not not the five yard 0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.920 jitterbug routes, right, that wasn't my my thing. And he 0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:19.040 fell a lot more at home and a lot more, 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.360 you know, comfortable with those targets down the field versus 0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.240 the targets closer to the line of scrimmage to Paul's points. 0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.000 So you know it's that's maybe that's the type of 0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:29.560 guy his I'd still like to see him be a 0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:32.360 little bit more consistent, you know, at the underneath stuff 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.120 and then finding the soft spots and knowing when to 0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.799 sit and knowing you know, when to run away and 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:41.560 things like that. But I do think that he's definitely, 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:45.640 at his core more of a vertical field stretcher than 0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.880 he is Julian Edelman or Welker one of those guys, 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.360 and maybe they kind of discovered that last year and 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.040 that's what allowed him to produce a little bit. 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.400 Okay, that said, after I go on that big defense, 0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.279 still probably trade Onmark Cut himself. 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:01.000 Because he's going to. 0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.719 He is going into the last last year of his deal. 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.600 So yeah, I think him and Booty are definite candidates, 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:08.680 you know, if they're looking too. 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:10.600 I mean, that's a great question. 0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.600 Is is Booty out there on Saturday and working and 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.239 just seems like he's here till they decide he's not 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:18.840 or he decides he doesn't want to be. 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:20.000 That's a great question. 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.560 He's been in the area, so it seems like it. 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.560 I you know, I just highlight a position. I think 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.400 that's really hard in training camp, running back position. With 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.440 l Jennings starting on the NFI list, so he is 0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:32.600 going to be out of the mix at least for 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.880 a little bit. You know, jam Miller, Evans, Sky Land, Larison. 0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:38.719 You know, how do those reps look like? Are those 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.560 guys returning kicks? You know, who might have the inside 0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.680 track on that RB three kick returner kind of job. 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.360 I think it's a job that is up for grabs. 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:51.279 And I'm curious if those jam Miller, Land Larrison, even 0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.320 the undrafted guy Miles Montgomery. 0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:54.799 Have little juice, some pop, you know. 0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:57.160 I I just it scares me trying to think about 0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.000 going through the season just with Remandre and Henderson next year. 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.600 You know again, I'd love to just have a. 0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:03.759 Third guy to help manage things a little bit and 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:06.360 protect them. But we'll see if somebody emerges. 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:06.959 And so. 0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.400 You mentioned the running backs, I immediately think of the 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:15.240 offensive line in front of them. What will be that lineup, 0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.160 first team lineup on day one? 0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:18.759 What do you think? 0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.400 Yeah, I mean I think I think it's it's Amble, 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:25.520 Avt and Wilson on Wnu and Moses and I just 0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.480 my question is how much does Moses practice? 0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.080 How much do they manage him? And where does Lomu 0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:31.360 work in as as Evan. 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.280 Talked about on Tuesday, How does he get his reps? 0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:35.880 I think it's going to be opportunity for him to 0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.520 get some right tackle reps. But we'll see how that 0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.000 all plays out. It's just does the guard thing continue? 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:42.839 Was that something in mini camp? They were just kind 0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:45.120 of let's see how we look, let's get it on tape. 0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:47.080 I forget it, let's scrap it for training camp. 0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.600 You know, based on history, Paul, when they try things 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:55.840 like that in the spring, they sometimes start off in 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.400 training camp doing it too, don't. 0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.560 They challenge over it? 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:04.319 Changes sometimes, like in you know, Bill would say, you know, 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.480 we wanted to start him doing the thing that he 0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:08.600 hadn't done because we wanted to give him a little 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.359 bit more of about like Eugene Wilson's safety corner thing. 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.239 You know, We're going to have him do a little 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:14.840 bit more of the thing that he hadn't done a 0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:17.239 lot of in college, right, so we can fall back 0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.440 on it and then camp comes around and he's back 0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.319 at his traditional spot. But I've absolutely seen it the 0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.640 other way too, where they did something in the spring 0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.560 and you need to see a sudden you know, you know, 0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.560 day two, day three, you see the same thing you 0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.399 saw in the spring, like, oh, maybe they like him 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:32.200 in that role. 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:34.319 It wasn't like Troy Brown at corner something that was 0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.960 that was camping right well, that you'd see it in camp. 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.279 Yeah, you see those as back up And. 0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:42.200 Because I don't know if you knew, but like Bill knew, 0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.359 they were going to lose seventeen cornerbacks that year. 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.440 So I was getting really frustrated. 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.880 And maybe that's why I have dreams. 0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.600 I was getting really frustrated with your show the other day, 0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:53.640 one of your shows. 0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:56.000 So can you tell me what show it was? So 0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:56.879 I can the. 0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:03.320 Main one, that's what it. Would you say that Stefan 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:07.319 Diggs had good numbers last year? Yeah, okay, good. So 0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:11.160 they were saying they were comparing Stefan diggs numbers to 0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.880 A J. Brown's numbers as as like, well A J. 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.600 Brown had the same numbers as as Stefon Diggs. As 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:17.960 if that's not good. 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.080 So I would say that Diggs had a better year 0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.480 than Brown last year, but there was far a few 0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.040 numbers were much more efficient. Evan talked about that on Tuesday, 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.480 the eighty three percent efficient rating. 0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.319 Now they're asked to do different things too, Brown, but if. 0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:38.240 He ends up with those numbers. Again, that's a good season. 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.120 What numbers? So Brown ends up with like eighty five 0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:42.280 for one thousand. 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:46.120 I'd be disappointed really yeah, unless he like there's like 0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:47.640 twelve touchdowns or something. 0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:50.160 Like that, that's well again you got to see context. 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.360 Are those plays that he's making helping you win football games? 0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:53.520 Well? 0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.439 And also like what's the trickle down effect? Like he 0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:57.839 only having right is the. 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:00.920 Only Romeo Dogs have ninety catches because. 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:04.319 He's Drake right really spreading it out. 0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:05.480 Like that's what happened last year with Dick. 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.359 You know, they had Digs at a thousand, they had 0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.680 Matt Collins, Kishan Boody, a bunch of guys at like 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:13.120 four or five hundred behind him, and they had the 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:16.279 number one EPA offense in the league. You know, so right, 0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.600 You know, I think that that depends on how the 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:19.439 ball is spread out. 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:21.680 But you know, like you can't in one breath say, 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:23.560 you know, Stefon Diggs they got rid of him, he 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:25.839 had great numbers, and then take those numbers and say, 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.520 well A J. Brown had kind of the same numbers 0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:28.240 as a negative. 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:31.520 You know, I don't think he had the same numbers, 0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:33.600 but yeah, that's all I. 0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:36.680 Mean they were talking must make a good point about 0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.719 the trickle down effect of the offense if you see 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:43.240 that if Dobbs has really good numbers too, then obviously. 0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.440 And then they were comparing A. J. Brown's numbers to 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:50.200 this guy in the Cardinals Wilson. Uh, who's the Michael Wilson, 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.920 Mike Wilson. We had the same numbers as Mike Wilson. 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.319 Nobody knows who Mike Wilson had good numbers? Like what, 0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:56.839 I don't. 0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:59.000 I didn't understand what they were trying to do. Well, 0:41:59.040 --> 0:41:59.799 It's also part of it. 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.840 AJ Brown was kind of miscast in the Philadelphia offense 0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.239 that wasn't built to play to his strengths and give 0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:07.040 him fully feed him. 0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:08.879 Like he should have been fed. So yeah, I think 0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:09.759 that's big part of it. 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.120 One of the good phrases I've heard about AJ Brown 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:15.000 and all the commentary is, you know the Eagles didn't 0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:18.799 help him age gracefully, where like you have things that 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.840 offensive coordinators can do, especially lining him up more in 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.520 the slot or you know, giving him free releases and 0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.080 finding ways to get him away from coverage, that the 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.200 Eagles were just kind of like you're playing the X 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.919 and you're staple to the outside. He's running ninety percent 0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:33.759 of his routes or something like that from out from 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.239 the outside. Josh McDaniels, I think is going to be 0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.680 a lot more creative with him, and that might allow 0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.040 him like he did with Diggs last year, at this 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:42.879 stage of his career, I don't know if AJ Brown 0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:44.279 is the same guy he was three or four. 0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:46.680 I think last year was a weird year for him, 0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.080 and I think Paul you and I agree on this. 0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.120 When you watch the Eagles game, and they were on 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.680 a lot, so you got to watch those games, the 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.040 AJ Brown portion of the offense seemed forced. It didn't 0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:58.000 seem like That's. 0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.600 Why I don't think he had good numbers because I 0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:01.640 think they with the ball to him a lot. Yeah, 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:05.520 and he had the same numbers as Diggs, who has 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.120 Evan pointed out on Tuesday, didn't get the ball thrown 0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:09.839 to him a lot as much. 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:10.520 Yeah, they had. 0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.799 Difference in targets, but. 0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.720 It just didn't seem like he fit or they wanted 0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:19.600 him to fit in that offense. And maybe that was 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:24.359 part of his frustration with Hurts, Like Hurts almost seem 0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.439 like you need to go to a j Brown now, 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:28.440 you know, maybe there's. 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.800 Just a much different offense. You know, they didn't target 0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:32.399 him over the field as much as in the middle 0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:34.200 of the field as I think the Patriots will. They 0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:36.200 didn't target him off play action as much as I 0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:38.600 think the Patriots will. So I think that there's just 0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:41.160 going to be different scheme elements of how they're using 0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:45.359 him that are going to hopefully accentuate his straints and 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.359 get him back to being closer to the player than 0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:48.680 he was a couple of years ago. 0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:52.400 So my point to run this whole thing back is 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.000 if A. J. Brown has the same numbers as he 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.759 did last year, it can look very different even with 0:43:58.840 --> 0:43:59.560 the same numbers. 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:02.319 You know, I like the. 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.800 Point that you guys made about the rest of the offense. 0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:07.319 That could make those same numbers look a lot better 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.440 if there's a better efficiency. 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:13.000 You know, take some pressure off at Dobbs too. 0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.600 You know when he was like the crown jewel of 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.080 before they signed AJ Brown a lot on him. 0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.319 Is he going to produce? But maybe that's good for him, Like. 0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:22.120 Does it create a lot of light boxes? Do you 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.799 run the ball better? Because you have to, you know, 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:26.839 account more for AJ Brown than. 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:28.720 Maybe you did last year with Jes Diggs. 0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:32.200 That's historically been what's happened on AJ Brown's teams. You know, 0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:35.680 tightands Eagles. They see a lot of light boxes because 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.680 people play with the safety over the top of AJ 0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:41.040 Brown and Sakwon Bartley runs for two thousand yards because 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.759 he's running into lighter boxes all game long. You know, 0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:45.840 those are the things that you hope don't show up 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:47.560 on the stat sheet, that you hope that he brings 0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:47.919 to the data. 0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:51.360 All right, so preseason predictions. How many people think the 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:52.520 Patriots offense will. 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:56.080 Be top five? I do well, top five and what, 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.600 well whatever whatever a top five. 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.440 Ye well, okay, I'm just asking this. 0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:04.080 Ye I'll say, yeah, I think the offense should be 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:04.719 better this year. 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:06.480 I mean there were second in points. 0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:07.880 They're going to play better defenses. 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:11.000 I think that's my thing. I feel like six six six. 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.480 I don't know why, Alex, just because I feel like 0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.040 if I come in the top five, they'll just be fringe. 0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.200 But that could be a really good thing. Yeah, they're playing. 0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:22.319 You could make an argument six against this. 0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:27.759 Their objective objectively much better in the whatever the metrics say, 0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:28.319 I don't care. 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.399 They're all going to be like thirty five points a game, 0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:32.600 So the Patriots will be at like twenty nine and 0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:33.160 they'll be like. 0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:34.160 That's still good. 0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:34.719 Yeah. 0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:36.400 I think they're going to be a really good offense. 0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:38.759 That's just the question of health. And you know, it's 0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:40.799 all a lot on Drake. That's the seat. He'll figure 0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.480 out the ceiling. But I mean, they they've done everything 0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:46.719 you can do that's supporting him. They're getting weapons, they're 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:50.000 investing draft capital in the offensive line, you know, almost 0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:51.960 to the detriment of the defense a little bit. I mean, 0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:53.839 they're kind of hanging on with this defense right now, 0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:55.640 which is fine, but you know, at some point they're 0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.600 gonna have to start investing a little bit more on 0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:58.560 the defensive side of the bath. 0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:01.399 All right, lots of email, there's lots of calls coming in. 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.879 Let's start hearing what you have to say. We'll start 0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:13.399 with Larry in Wisconsin. What's up, Larry? Larry? Larry didn't 0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:14.640 take the cheese in Wisconsin? 0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:16.520 Okay, he's gone. 0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:19.960 Well it's Christian in La. 0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:24.799 A yeah, Christian in la You know what Usually I say, Hey, 0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:27.359 you guys got a little happiness in me? Oh they 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.080 going into going into trading camp. Do you know who 0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:34.200 I'm excited about. I'm excited about seeing our first, first 0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:36.560 and second round draft pick for form just like it 0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.319 was last year. Wait a minute, I wasn't excited last 0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:41.400 year because he made mistakes in the first two rounds. 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.239 About draft picks, Oh here we got this year. Oh 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.359 yeah we did, because I wasn't excited for short arms 0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:49.680 Will Campbell to get blown away. You know what, the 0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:52.160 first round draft pick is supposed to be an impact player, 0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.719 and Will Campbell was an impact player last year. You 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.960 know what kind of impact he had? Impact will play 0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:03.240 for the other team during the playoffs. It's not gonna play. 0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.000 I don't care how you guys say, Oh yeah, we're 0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.000 gonna switch Loe more around. Lobo was supposed to be 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.279 an impact player. He's our first round pick. You guys 0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:11.759 are mellily mouthed about it, and you try to make 0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:12.480 excuses for it. 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:13.040 I am not. 0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.439 I am not excited about the two first round draft 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.520 picks because the second guy isn't even gonna play. So 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:21.640 that's that's that's my gripe. Now, on positive side of it, 0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:23.719 you guys are being million mouthed about what you think 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.359 this team is gonna accomplish. I can't believe you guys 0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:27.960 are gonna sit there and the team that was in 0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:30.399 the super Bowl, it was not a fluke because every 0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.479 game in the NFL is hard to win no matter 0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:35.319 who you play. So forget the schedule stuff, and then 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:37.920 we are. We were a top five offers last year. 0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:40.200 Our running game was top five and six, and our 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:42.959 defense was pretty damn good. And you guys are sitting 0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:45.040 there letting people tell you, guys that, oh, you know, 0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:46.920 it's gonna be a harder schedule the Patriots. I'm not 0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:48.759 gonna get fourteen wins, you know what I mean? Wins 0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.640 we're gonna get. We're gonna get thirteen to fourteen wins again. Anyway, 0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:54.279 you named anybody on our schedule that you see that 0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:56.759 you guys think right off the bat can beat us? 0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.640 Just tell me yeah, competitive, yes, But who do you 0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:00.480 think can beat us? 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.359 Well, if they're competitive, they can beat us, and we 0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.960 can beat them. It's you know, that's the idea of competitive. 0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:08.600 Let me put it through a schedule and see if 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:10.080 I can find a team that might be able to 0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:11.640 beat them. 0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:12.560 I don't know. 0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:16.759 The first game, guess what, see, I was top two 0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:18.040 defensive guys are gone. 0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:20.919 So at the top running back, who won the who won. 0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:24.240 The Okay, so maybe that'll make make a difference. 0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:26.560 But maybe that'll make the game competitive this time because 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:27.600 it wasn't the last. 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.200 Time Devin Witherspoon get traded. 0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:36.680 I don't know, like, get sorry, we stepped on. 0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:41.520 We're all negative. It's okay, he's not negative. 0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:42.080 I want to know. 0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:43.640 I want to know who he's talking about. What do 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.360 you mean? Top two defensive guys got trades. 0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:46.560 He's allowed to say that. 0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:50.040 All the draft picks think gone. That's not negative. He's 0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:52.200 allowed to say that because it's Christian saying it. So 0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.239 that's that's he's keeping it real, right, But we're being 0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:58.479 negative by not knowing that they're going to win every game, right. 0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.160 I'm asking him a question, who are the top two 0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:02.839 defensive guys in Seattle that are gone? 0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:03.240 Christian? 0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:10.360 There I think is gone, right tree quallon their third corner? Yeah, 0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:12.520 so what did he. 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.000 Wasn't he one of the guys that that they considered, Oh, 0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.800 guys like a shut down guys guys doing that that 0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.279 that helped their defense stay at the top. They can 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:21.520 kick two safety because. 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:23.280 They got Okay, but he was their third corner. 0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:24.920 That's like saying our edge left. 0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:29.759 What Caleb Chase? Yeah, you know, I mean their best 0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:30.960 guys on defense are all back. 0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:33.880 He played. I'm not trying to argue with you, stiff, 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:34.960 he played, but he was. 0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:36.240 He was their third corner. 0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:37.680 Who's the other guy that's gone? 0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:41.480 The number one running back? 0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:45.680 That they had the two best guys on defense, right, 0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:48.200 we're looking, That's what we're trying to figure out who 0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:48.600 they were. 0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:50.760 They lost the safety too. I'm not sure. 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.160 Kobe Bryant, who is their third safety? 0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:57.080 Okay, but it was their defensive rotation with those two 0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:59.919 guys in that made them so ball on defense. They're 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.800 gone and the number one running backs gone. I'm not afraid. 0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.239 The point is that I'm not afraid of any team 0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:09.279 in the NFL that, you know, beating us that can 0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:12.040 make us think that we won't have fourteen wins against 0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:14.279 this year. But I am upset about the fact that 0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:16.800 we don't have impact plays for our first two draft picks. 0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:18.640 You can't talk me into it. You can't give me 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.279 excuse the why it's gonna work anyway, and Lomo's gonna 0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:23.640 fit it. Maybe Jackets, you guys, I need. 0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:25.719 You to do you think it's gonna be fine screwed up? 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:26.520 Yeah? 0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:31.360 You think you think despite that, they're gonna wins dictomy. 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.120 Everybody stinks, but no one can beat them. 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.120 Like they screwed up the last pick, screwed up the drafts, 0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:39.520 but no one can beat them, like. 0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:42.440 I don't understand how those two things can be true. 0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:46.440 Listen, if he if he's right and Campbell was to 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:49.200 screw up, it's not gonna be that great a year. 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.680 You know, I disagree if Loan who can play? 0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:51.960 Wow? 0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:54.319 Yeah, but he doesn't think that was a good draft 0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:54.799 pick either. 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:58.480 No, I well, everybody stinks that again, that's sort of 0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.919 the the irony of him thinking that nobody can beat them. 0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.680 Yeah, I thinks everybody on the team kind of stinks. 0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:06.560 I didn't think the Lomu pick was the right pick 0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:09.120 at the time, but I'm not going to keep beating 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:11.080 a dead horse and say it for another six months. 0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:13.120 I didn't love to pick in the moment when they 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:13.719 made that pick. 0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:16.160 For a lot of the reasons I think he is 0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:18.160 saying is that I don't know if he's going to 0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:20.799 contribute right away, and maybe in three years he'll end 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:22.919 up being the right pick. But I'm more concerned about 0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:24.680 twenty twenty six, not twenty twenty eight. 0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:27.359 So I hear what he's I hear what he's saying. 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:27.560 Now. 0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:29.680 I thought at the time, just to be real, that 0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:31.560 Akis was going to come in and be an instant 0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:34.800 impact player. So far, Accus isn't even here, and I 0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.680 don't know who's advising him or what, but like, get 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:38.640 your buttet training camp. 0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:40.600 That's kind of out of their control because that's what 0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:43.000 the front office thought too, you know. Yeah, so I 0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.520 hear what he anticipated it to play out this way. 0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:48.120 Lomu and Eli Reridant to me, are two guys that 0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:51.480 are developmental picks. Those are guys that I think are 0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.759 here for the long term, Like they're not going to 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:57.160 be players that I'm expecting that are going to come 0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.960 in day one and make huge impacts that they would 0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:01.640 guy out of the draft that I thought was going 0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:02.000 to do. 0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:02.719 That as Akis. 0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:05.520 I think that's why it's so frustrating that he's not 0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:08.160 here is because he was the one guy in the 0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:10.959 draft class that you felt like, Okay, I was going. 0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:12.040 To be here. I was excited. 0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:14.440 It's another good job by Christian excited too. 0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:16.800 It's another good job by Christian and I'm not saying 0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:17.520 that ironically. 0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:19.600 He listens conversation. 0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:22.239 Was he not a fan of picking offensive linemen or 0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:24.040 just the specific ones that they picked. 0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:24.880 I think probably just y. 0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:28.440 They need to be impact players, and he doesn't consider 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:29.960 offensive find an impact player. 0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.040 And in fairness to him, he brought this up right 0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:34.200 after the draft. He was not happy that they picked 0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:35.920 a guy who was probably not going to be a 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:37.520 big impact player in year one. 0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:38.200 And I think that's sure. 0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.120 And he thought they were a super Bowl team and 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:41.800 a lot of people felt the same way. 0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:43.359 A lot of people felt the same way. 0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:45.239 I just I don't really understand how you can say 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:48.040 how bad everything is on one hand and then. 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:51.680 Not really give the other teams any chance to beat them. 0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:55.000 I mean, again, if fifteen, but if we're talking about 0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:58.200 Kobe Minor and Riek Woman and two of the best players, 0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:00.960 so like the Patriots, is the Pages defense in trouble 0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:03.279 because they lost Caleb On, Chase On and U J 0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:06.120 Jalen Hawkins and Jack Gibbons. 0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:10.040 I mean they might m and worry opened on Pp too. 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:13.040 He's still recovering from whatever ankle was probably him, so 0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.920 maybe that would help them, But I get it. I 0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:17.959 think this is it's not enough of a sample size 0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:20.120 on Will Campbell yet to make a declaration. I think 0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:24.080 we all have similar concerns, but I understand the philosophy 0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:26.680 of trying to protect Drake May and taking and how 0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:28.759 hard it is to get tackles, and you know, I'm 0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:30.520 right there with Evan. There are concerns about both of 0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:33.200 those guys. But if you want to put everything you 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.160 can around Drake May, you got to make sure. 0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:39.160 You protected and think about the effort as a whole. Yeah, 0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:42.160 you took two offensive linemen and two consecutive years in 0:53:42.160 --> 0:53:44.480 the first round. You also just sign A J. Brown 0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:48.799 and Romeo Dobbs, So I mean they're trying to help 0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:49.360 the offense. 0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:53.440 The offense, I think it will be better than last year. 0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:55.680 It might not be ranked higher, but it will be 0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:56.480 better than last year. 0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:56.839 I think. 0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.160 Yeah, the second guest on the draft is going to be, 0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:02.280 you know, some of those edge guys. If Acus doesn't 0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:04.319 end up panning out because of all the reasons that 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:08.520 we've seen so far, If they had taken a first 0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:11.080 round edge guy in that spot instead of Lomu and 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:13.440 just drafted a developmental tackle in the second or the 0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:16.040 third round. You know, would that of those are the 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.280 coin flips of the draft, you know, that's how it goes. 0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:21.760 But I'm not like super concerned about the offensive line. 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:26.160 That's like, that's yeah, Like I think their offensive line 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:28.040 is going to be good enough that with that quarterback 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:30.279 and the receivers that he has around them, if you 0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:33.200 have a good coaching staff like they do with Josh 0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:37.239 McDaniels and Doug Moron and their offensive line staff, did 0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:39.719 they have enough talent in that room to have a 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.160 serviceable offensive line? 0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.560 And I tend to believe that, but we'll say. 0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:48.840 I mean, I don't like them being like we've seen 0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:50.960 them bottom out on the offensive line. 0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:52.399 It just happened two years ago. 0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:54.680 When's the last time they've been even as deep as 0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:55.279 they are right now? 0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:55.879 Right? 0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:58.239 I mean, the depth on the talent, the coaching I 0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:01.399 think is massive. The moron he had a yeah he'll 0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:05.160 be back, you know, Like, I just don't see with 0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:07.399 the amount of talent that they have in that room 0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:12.360 and with McDaniels and Moron coaching it, that room completely cratering. 0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:14.480 Like I just can't imagine that now if they have 0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:17.000 charger like injuries I. 0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:21.120 Think the concern is Verah Tucker in health from a health. 0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:23.200 And that's where I think lou had left guard comes in. 0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.359 Remember those health problems happened at the Jets and. 0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:28.360 The charges. 0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:32.480 So but I have one more like this, like so 0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:35.879 it's all about drafting guys that can play right away, 0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:39.520 right like, according to Christian, Like, that's the problem is 0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:41.600 that you have these guys that they've taken that they're 0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:43.279 not going to contribute right away and they're not going 0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:44.920 to be able to do anything to help the team. 0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:48.520 But the Seahawks are in disarray because they lost Kenneth 0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:50.839 Walker and drafted a running back in the first round 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:54.799 in Endemian Prince. 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Maybe he's a little 0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:44.960 bit more towards the end in the beginning, and that's, 0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:45.800 you know, fair enough. 0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:48.480 But from what we saw out there in those mini. 0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:50.840 Camp practices, it seems like AJ Brown is jumping right 0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:53.120 into this offense. He's gonna have a huge role. Josh 0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:55.040 McDaniel is going to find a way Paul to get 0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.120 him the ball. I'd be very surprised if that's not 0:58:57.240 --> 0:59:01.120 the case. You know, he just looks uh, sort of motivated, 0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:02.680 you know, for lack of a better term. 0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:06.600 And I don't know if he's you know, quite the 0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:08.800 fifteen hundred yard guy maybe that he used to be 0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:11.520 maybe he's a little bit less than that. But what 0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:15.040 you saw in the mini campfield was absolutely the agility, 0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:18.520 the athleticism, his ability to catch the ball in traffic, 0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:23.120 strong hands, soft hands, and like I said, just looks 0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:24.960 like he's motivated to prove some people wrong. 0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:26.920 He said as much, you know, when he spoke to us. 0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:30.960 But they looked a lot more comfortable right out of 0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:32.320 the shoot than I anticipated. 0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.920 Yeah, yeah, it was like they had been playing together 0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:37.280 for a while. I was like, did you guys like 0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:40.080 go to Brookline High or something and didn't tell anybody, 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:41.560 but they you know. 0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:42.680 I think with aj. 0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:45.760 Brown, the question is is how much of was his. 0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:48.120 Dip and production Philly related and how much of it 0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:50.680 was AJ Brown related? And I joked with Paul out 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:52.520 a mini camp that I was about ready to blame 0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:54.360 Jalen Hurts for the fact that he had a little 0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:56.760 bit of a down year last year after he was 0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:59.920 you know, mossing guys, you know, throughout practice. But I 1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:02.640 I think that there's ways that Josh McDaniels can help 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:05.440 him kind of age more gracefully at this point of 1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:09.360 his career, moving him around the formation, getting him back 1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:11.080 into some of the sweet spots of the field in 1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:13.560 the middle of the field that he was in Tennessee 1:00:13.640 --> 1:00:15.720 that I don't think they used him as much in Philly. 1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:19.120 In Philly, he kind of became an isolation receiver, you know, 1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:21.560 throw him up fifty to fifty balls and things like that. 1:00:22.080 --> 1:00:24.080 With the Patriots, I'm thinking that they're going to get 1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:26.160 back to some of the stuff he saw in Tennessee, 1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:28.840 you know, hitting him on those inbreaking routes, you know, 1:00:28.920 --> 1:00:30.760 over the middle of the field, letting him catch and 1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:33.200 run with the football a little bit more, some of 1:00:33.200 --> 1:00:36.200 that yards after the catch, you know, friendly type of stuff. 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:38.400 I think it's going to come back for AJ Brown 1:00:38.880 --> 1:00:41.800 in this offense. So I think there are ways that 1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:45.520 a coordinator can really help a receiver like AJ Brown with, 1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:48.840 you know, sort of different roles and different alignments and 1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:51.760 things like that that I expect Josh McDaniels to do 1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:54.320 a little bit better than what we saw in Philadelphia 1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:56.600 last year. Is at the difference between him being a 1:00:56.680 --> 1:00:59.200 thousand yards and fifteen hundred. I don't know, but maybe 1:00:59.240 --> 1:01:01.000 it's a difference which we in a thousand yards in 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:03.360 twelve hundred or thirteen hundred yards and you get a 1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:05.760 little bit more out of him than what the Eagles got. 1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:08.360 One of the questions of this group. Of course, Kaishon 1:01:08.400 --> 1:01:10.400 Booty had a you know, great year last year, caught 1:01:10.440 --> 1:01:14.240 some big plays down the end. Wasn't really here during 1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:17.840 the optional portion of the offseason, was there, mandatory mini camp, 1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:19.600 didn't really participate though. 1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:22.280 In the last you know, in the last day of practices, 1:01:22.520 --> 1:01:22.840 the guy. 1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:24.880 We spent a lot of time talking about a player 1:01:24.880 --> 1:01:28.280 that the Patriots drafted, that has developed here, that is delivered, 1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:31.280 and now with Brown arriving, it's kind of hard to 1:01:31.320 --> 1:01:32.919 see exactly how he fits in now, Paul. 1:01:32.920 --> 1:01:34.400 When I was out there watching camp, I'm like, you 1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:35.840 could figure it out like that, you know what I mean. 1:01:35.840 --> 1:01:37.760 Evan's talking about moving him a little bit, moving Brown 1:01:37.760 --> 1:01:39.760 a little more inside. Like I do think there's a 1:01:39.760 --> 1:01:41.280 way they could figure it out. But I think for 1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:43.920 all of us, all signs are probably pointing towards Kaishon 1:01:43.960 --> 1:01:45.520 Booty maybe not being a part of this. 1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:46.920 Team once we get to the regular season. 1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:50.480 Yeah, and I think that you could figure it out 1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:54.080 if Romeo Dobbs struggles and doesn't have a huge role. 1:01:54.120 --> 1:01:56.120 If Romeo Dobbs is what we all think he's going 1:01:56.200 --> 1:01:57.640 to be. I think it's going to be really hard 1:01:57.680 --> 1:02:00.360 to just figure that out. And I'm really to on 1:02:00.400 --> 1:02:04.160 this whole thing because my head shows me that every 1:02:04.200 --> 1:02:07.080 time they've asked Kaishan Boody to do something over the 1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:10.960 last couple of seasons, he's generally maximized all his opportunities 1:02:10.960 --> 1:02:14.240 and done everything that they've asked of him. But at 1:02:14.240 --> 1:02:16.760 the same time, I can understand the team is looking 1:02:16.800 --> 1:02:20.200 to improve always and he probably looks at it. 1:02:20.720 --> 1:02:22.280 Entering the final year of his rookie deal. 1:02:22.520 --> 1:02:24.200 He wants to get in a position where he knows 1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.080 he's gonna get targets, knows he's going to put up 1:02:26.080 --> 1:02:29.120 some numbers and put himself in the best position financially 1:02:29.160 --> 1:02:29.680 going food. 1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:31.400 So I'm really torn on it. 1:02:31.440 --> 1:02:33.960 I think he's probably gonna end up elsewhere when all 1:02:34.000 --> 1:02:35.560 is said and done, But you never know. There's a 1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:37.200 lot of things that can happen between now and the 1:02:37.240 --> 1:02:40.360 start of the season. Injuries happened, who knows, Yeah, tell 1:02:40.400 --> 1:02:41.920 me about Dobbs. So I mean, that's how does that 1:02:41.960 --> 1:02:43.800 all fit together. I mean, he was, you know, until 1:02:43.800 --> 1:02:45.600 they got Brown. That was the big signing of the 1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:47.280 offseason to replace him. 1:02:47.360 --> 1:02:50.000 Kind of play like Digs, but he's big, he's versatile, 1:02:50.040 --> 1:02:51.240 can play a little inside outside. 1:02:51.240 --> 1:02:52.840 I mean, it seems like he's a good fit for 1:02:52.880 --> 1:02:53.720 what Josh wants to do. 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:56.320 Yeah, I think he's a classic McDaniel ze. 1:02:56.560 --> 1:02:58.480 You know, they're going to probably play him mostly on 1:02:58.520 --> 1:03:00.240 the inside, but he can play a little bit on 1:03:00.280 --> 1:03:03.800 the outside, especially on those two receiver based kind of sets. 1:03:03.840 --> 1:03:06.720 And he reminds me just watching him in this spring, 1:03:06.800 --> 1:03:08.960 a little bit of Jakobe Myers, you know, that power 1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:10.960 slot that's got a little bit of size to him. 1:03:11.160 --> 1:03:13.800 Probably not the most explosive player down the field, but 1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:15.840 it's going to be really sturdy in the middle of 1:03:15.840 --> 1:03:18.120 the field. It's going to convert routes correctly, going to 1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:20.760 be in the right spots and sort of move the chains. 1:03:20.760 --> 1:03:22.800 And I think that's the element of it that you're 1:03:22.840 --> 1:03:25.600 hoping to replace with Diggs. Brown's going to be the flash, 1:03:25.720 --> 1:03:27.400 He's going to be the guy down the field and 1:03:27.520 --> 1:03:30.240 making the big plays. Can Dobbs be the guy? You know, 1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:32.720 Digs put up fifty one first downs last year for 1:03:32.760 --> 1:03:35.280 this team. You know, Dobbs had forty one last year 1:03:35.320 --> 1:03:38.400 on lower volume with the Packers, So a higher volume. 1:03:38.440 --> 1:03:40.479 Does that mean that he can match digs in terms 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:42.800 of it's third and six and we need just need 1:03:42.880 --> 1:03:45.200 seven yards. We don't need a fifty, we need seven, 1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:46.720 you know, and you go out there and you make 1:03:46.760 --> 1:03:48.840 that kind of play. I think in terms of fitting 1:03:48.840 --> 1:03:52.880 it all together, the Kishon Booty thing is like it's 1:03:52.920 --> 1:03:54.720 too prong to me. It's not just that they have 1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:58.000 position redundancy. They also have skill set redundancy. To me, 1:03:58.440 --> 1:04:03.120 where if you're three top three or Dobbs Booty Brown, 1:04:03.640 --> 1:04:05.160 I just kind of feel like you're a little bit 1:04:05.200 --> 1:04:08.480 slow and like where is that like field stretching element 1:04:08.560 --> 1:04:10.880 coming from? Where's that speed element coming from? 1:04:11.120 --> 1:04:11.360 You know? 1:04:11.720 --> 1:04:14.040 I think there's two ways to look at it. If 1:04:14.040 --> 1:04:16.479 you just braided this off of like a Madden curve 1:04:16.520 --> 1:04:18.840 when you just everybody got a Madden rating, those are 1:04:18.880 --> 1:04:21.640 your three best receivers probably, But if you look at 1:04:21.680 --> 1:04:24.280 it from an aspect of, you know, a basketball team, 1:04:24.320 --> 1:04:27.240 like we need different positions, we need guys with defined roles, 1:04:27.360 --> 1:04:29.440 Like how do you do that? The best, I think 1:04:29.600 --> 1:04:31.920 is a tough question to ask, is a guy like 1:04:32.040 --> 1:04:34.080 Kyle Williams who might not be as good of a player, 1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:36.480 like as Kisehan Booty, but he runs a four to 1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:39.800 four and he stretches the field. Is that better fit 1:04:40.080 --> 1:04:42.560 with Brown and Dobbs and Booty? And I think that's 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:44.920 the question that they have to ask themselves is do 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:50.720 they need that infusionist speed, whether that's Williams or Pop Douglas, 1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:53.600 different types of players. But you know, I think that 1:04:53.680 --> 1:04:56.440 they do run the risk, especially with Henry being your 1:04:56.440 --> 1:04:58.960 tight end as well of being a little bit slow, 1:04:59.160 --> 1:05:00.640 if you have those guy altogether. 1:05:00.760 --> 1:05:03.000 Yeah, you mentioned Kyle Williams and Popped Douglas probably saw 1:05:03.040 --> 1:05:03.960 them racing a little bit. 1:05:03.960 --> 1:05:06.360 You know, they those two two fast they were, and 1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:08.640 that they're the they're the fasture hope for speed, right, 1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:10.440 And that I think is a big part of this 1:05:10.520 --> 1:05:12.400 receiving group is when you look at Kyle Williams, we 1:05:12.440 --> 1:05:15.000 all talk about can he make a year or two jump? 1:05:15.080 --> 1:05:18.280 Can he bring that element to complement the other pieces. 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:20.480 So the thing that I like about this is we're 1:05:20.520 --> 1:05:23.760 talking about the wide receiver group in terms of what's 1:05:23.800 --> 1:05:26.920 the best combination to use as opposed to well, they 1:05:26.960 --> 1:05:29.200 got this guy and that guy can do some things 1:05:29.240 --> 1:05:32.200 and I don't know, maybe someone will emerge mentioned Matt 1:05:32.240 --> 1:05:34.520 Collins's name, yet like you know, you know, sort of 1:05:35.160 --> 1:05:36.040 they have no talent. 1:05:36.360 --> 1:05:37.360 Yeah, Like I. 1:05:37.280 --> 1:05:39.800 Think suddenly, you know, we we sort of blinked and 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:43.200 wide receiver became I think the best position group on 1:05:43.240 --> 1:05:46.120 the whole roster. I mean, Corner probably wants a word 1:05:46.160 --> 1:05:48.040 with that, but but I think in terms of top 1:05:48.120 --> 1:05:51.640 to bottom, wide receiver is the answer. And it's going 1:05:51.720 --> 1:05:54.560 to be a matter of what Josh McDaniels and and 1:05:54.680 --> 1:05:57.120 ultimately Mike Rabel decide they want to keep and they 1:05:57.160 --> 1:06:01.000 want to feature as a like, like whatever was talking 1:06:01.040 --> 1:06:03.480 about do you want to mix in some fast guys 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:05.439 or do you want to stick with what you think 1:06:05.560 --> 1:06:08.880 might be redundant? But maybe the best group. They have 1:06:08.920 --> 1:06:11.320 a lot of options. They have a pretty deep wide 1:06:11.360 --> 1:06:12.240 receiver core right now. 1:06:12.280 --> 1:06:12.560 They do. 1:06:12.960 --> 1:06:15.080 And it's not like I know, people hear, oh, you 1:06:15.120 --> 1:06:17.600 know speed, like it's a forty time and that sort 1:06:17.640 --> 1:06:20.320 of thing, But it's also just separation ability. So like 1:06:20.360 --> 1:06:24.479 if you have Booty Brown Dobbs and that's your three 1:06:24.480 --> 1:06:27.040 guys and you're featuring that a lot feels like a 1:06:27.080 --> 1:06:29.760 lot of contested catches, right. It feels like Drake May 1:06:29.840 --> 1:06:33.200 throwing fifty to fifty balls a lot to those three guys. 1:06:33.760 --> 1:06:37.040 I would much rather have one guy like a Pop 1:06:37.080 --> 1:06:39.800 Douglas or Kyle Williams that when teams play man to 1:06:39.840 --> 1:06:43.080 man on third down, this guy can get open, you know, 1:06:43.200 --> 1:06:45.480 like that's the sort of thing that I would like 1:06:45.520 --> 1:06:48.440 to see, you know, be the third fiddle. But Paul's right, 1:06:48.440 --> 1:06:50.760 I mean, Matt Collins, if we haven't even mentioned him, 1:06:51.080 --> 1:06:54.520 He's going to be involved, really versatile player, maybe play 1:06:54.560 --> 1:06:56.640 a little bit of like the facto tight end even 1:06:56.680 --> 1:06:59.160 for this group given the fact that Julian Hill's not 1:06:59.240 --> 1:07:01.880 here anymore. You know, like there's a lot of different 1:07:01.920 --> 1:07:05.320 factors with Matt Collins's role that are intriguing as well. 1:07:05.360 --> 1:07:07.320 So there's gonna be a lot of mouse defeat. 1:07:07.480 --> 1:07:09.920 Probably someone's gonna go, you know, you know, Booty, we 1:07:09.960 --> 1:07:12.400 talk about a lot. You know. Jamario Douglass also in 1:07:12.440 --> 1:07:14.640 the last year of his rookie rookie deal, so maybe 1:07:14.640 --> 1:07:17.840 Efton Chisholm pushes him a little bit, similar kind of role, 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:21.400 different kind of slot receivers, but similar role in the offense. 1:07:22.200 --> 1:07:25.000 So someone's going to probably end up going, maybe maybe 1:07:25.000 --> 1:07:26.439 more than one person ends up going. 1:07:26.480 --> 1:07:29.439 But again, really good problems to have because the depth 1:07:29.520 --> 1:07:29.760 is there. 1:07:29.800 --> 1:07:32.400 Yeah, I mean this position group one runs twelve players deep, 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:34.360 and I mean four of them were undrafted rookie. 1:07:34.400 --> 1:07:34.560 Yah. 1:07:34.560 --> 1:07:36.400 Those poor guys, they brought it. They came to the 1:07:36.440 --> 1:07:39.160 Patriot at the wrong year right here for that. But 1:07:39.240 --> 1:07:41.120 you know, shout out to Kyle Dixon. I thought, look, 1:07:41.200 --> 1:07:43.240 one guy that stood out in rookie mini camp. He 1:07:43.280 --> 1:07:44.080 made you know, a few cats. 1:07:44.240 --> 1:07:45.880 It looked like an adult heart. He's a big boy. 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:48.240 I mean it's not you know, he's not Anotherfton Chisholm. 1:07:48.280 --> 1:07:51.200 He's got some size to him. But you know, Jeremiah 1:07:51.200 --> 1:07:53.560 Webb another guy that that's been around. So you know, 1:07:53.640 --> 1:07:55.400 those guys got their work cut out for them down 1:07:55.440 --> 1:07:57.000 at the bottom of the depth chart. 1:07:57.240 --> 1:07:59.000 How does it all play out. I mean, there's gonna 1:07:59.000 --> 1:07:59.680 be a lot of opportunities. 1:07:59.720 --> 1:08:01.360 I think training camp there should be a fun position 1:08:01.400 --> 1:08:02.840 group I think to watch, especially in some of these 1:08:02.920 --> 1:08:05.200 joint practices you get them lined up against some of 1:08:05.200 --> 1:08:06.720 the you know, Eagles and Colts corners. 1:08:06.880 --> 1:08:07.080 Yeah. 1:08:07.120 --> 1:08:08.680 Absolutely, I mean this is going to be. 1:08:09.000 --> 1:08:11.280 Like Paul said, I think it's probably the best position 1:08:11.360 --> 1:08:13.320 group on the roster, if not the second best. 1:08:14.280 --> 1:08:14.960 It's stacked. 1:08:15.000 --> 1:08:17.080 I mean, they really have a lot of talent here. 1:08:17.120 --> 1:08:20.360 Now they have different types of you know, hierarchy, which 1:08:20.360 --> 1:08:22.880 I personally love, Like you have a true number one, 1:08:22.960 --> 1:08:25.439 you have a number two with Romeo Dobbs. I have 1:08:25.479 --> 1:08:27.439 a bunch of guys that could be a number three 1:08:27.800 --> 1:08:28.719 on a good offense. 1:08:28.800 --> 1:08:30.960 So it's an exciting group. 1:08:31.000 --> 1:08:33.960 It just depends on, you know, roles and how they 1:08:34.040 --> 1:08:36.360 keep everybody happy and all that kind of stuff is 1:08:36.400 --> 1:08:39.080 going to be the big question. Last year, they just 1:08:39.120 --> 1:08:42.280 had such great chemistry in that room and Diggs was 1:08:42.320 --> 1:08:45.240 a big part of that, and they just had just 1:08:45.360 --> 1:08:48.400 off the charts chemistry and how do you recreate that 1:08:48.640 --> 1:08:51.320 and how do you go about keeping everybody happy when 1:08:51.680 --> 1:08:54.880 you go six seven guys deep and you only can 1:08:54.920 --> 1:08:57.439 really play three or four of them on a given Sunday. 1:08:57.479 --> 1:09:00.000 So that'll be a tough part. That's up to McDaniel's 1:09:00.280 --> 1:09:02.600 in Rabel though. You know that's why they pay those guys. 1:09:05.200 --> 1:09:11.160 And now great moments in history. I mean, is that 1:09:11.200 --> 1:09:14.639 tub that's in there. It's got a weigh fifteen pounds. 1:09:14.640 --> 1:09:17.400 It's enormous. Did you see that? That's like a that's 1:09:17.400 --> 1:09:17.719 like an. 1:09:17.600 --> 1:09:22.519 Ice cream star? Meghan the Stallion. Oh, okay, I bet 1:09:22.640 --> 1:09:24.680 I was trying. I was trying to cut that off 1:09:24.680 --> 1:09:28.200 at the path. I knew that was coming, So I 1:09:28.240 --> 1:09:30.000 was going with the Megan with. 1:09:29.960 --> 1:09:33.000 The giant jug of ice cream challenge, you know, like 1:09:33.040 --> 1:09:33.880 how much can you finish? 1:09:33.960 --> 1:09:35.080 Could you finish the whole thing? 1:09:35.600 --> 1:09:39.120 Just just know that yes, the answer is a court no. 1:09:39.320 --> 1:09:40.639 If I wanted to, Yeah, I could. 1:09:40.640 --> 1:09:42.040 I could handle a pint if. 1:09:41.840 --> 1:09:43.880 I wanted to, the answer is yes, I have. 1:09:43.840 --> 1:09:45.719 To cut down on my ice cream because it binds 1:09:45.760 --> 1:09:52.320 me up. Yeah. Who studio, Oh, you came very close. 1:09:52.960 --> 1:09:55.760 You came very close there. Ice cream binds him up. 1:09:56.000 --> 1:09:58.360 That's another great moment from BA. 1:10:00.400 --> 1:10:02.680 All right back here and Patriots on Filter Day five 1:10:02.680 --> 1:10:05.680 to five pasts five hundred is the hotline podcasts at 1:10:05.720 --> 1:10:06.840 Patriots dot com. 1:10:06.960 --> 1:10:08.000 Is the email address. 1:10:08.080 --> 1:10:10.679 It's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's Mike, it's Alex, 1:10:10.720 --> 1:10:13.840 it's Matt and Na Booth and we'll be here until 1:10:13.840 --> 1:10:18.519 two taking your calls and emails. Getting ready for training camp. 1:10:18.680 --> 1:10:22.760 First training camp is on Saturday. We're going to start 1:10:22.760 --> 1:10:26.120 our show at nine for five. Yeah, with on the 1:10:26.200 --> 1:10:29.559 ramps high above the practice field and we'll tell you 1:10:29.600 --> 1:10:31.840 everything we see and show you a bunch of stuff, 1:10:31.880 --> 1:10:36.040 as long as the camera rule is still the same 1:10:36.080 --> 1:10:38.400 as when Belichick was here. Yeah, you know that kind 1:10:38.400 --> 1:10:39.599 of that's in change. 1:10:39.600 --> 1:10:40.280 That's a team rule. 1:10:40.320 --> 1:10:42.080 That's not like a league rule. No, it's not a 1:10:42.160 --> 1:10:42.679 league rule. 1:10:43.000 --> 1:10:44.599 I don't want it out there, so good. 1:10:44.680 --> 1:10:44.840 No. 1:10:44.840 --> 1:10:47.439 I know are some teams out there. I feel like 1:10:47.520 --> 1:10:50.519 maybe a Raven's practice. I remember online where it was like, geez, 1:10:50.520 --> 1:10:51.720 they're just they got the whole thing going. 1:10:51.840 --> 1:10:52.240 Yeah there. 1:10:52.400 --> 1:10:55.559 Yeah, sometimes people sit in the stands and record them. 1:10:55.560 --> 1:10:56.639 Oh yeah, which is. 1:10:56.640 --> 1:10:59.519 I think sometimes that pops up. But you don't want 1:10:59.520 --> 1:11:01.320 to give the rest the league with what we're our 1:11:01.360 --> 1:11:03.240 plays and what we're doing out of practice. 1:11:03.280 --> 1:11:05.400 I mean, come on, yeah, don't even look at it. 1:11:05.400 --> 1:11:07.280 I want to do that in our tweet about it. 1:11:07.360 --> 1:11:09.400 So that'll be Saturday, and of course the team will 1:11:09.400 --> 1:11:14.559 also be practicing on Sunday, and we won't have a 1:11:14.560 --> 1:11:17.360 live show on Sunday. But our next live show after 1:11:17.400 --> 1:11:19.479 Saturday will be the first day of PADS. I think 1:11:19.520 --> 1:11:24.920 that July thirtieth, Thursday, whatever date that is today Thursday, 1:11:25.800 --> 1:11:30.160 and then next week's show times will be one to 1:11:30.200 --> 1:11:35.120 three one to three and Thursday we'll be live yep 1:11:35.960 --> 1:11:40.720 so again nine in the morning, So stay tuned for 1:11:40.800 --> 1:11:44.719 a lot of action next week. Emails coming in Chris 1:11:44.760 --> 1:11:46.479 and Colfax California. 1:11:46.760 --> 1:11:47.439 Uh first. 1:11:47.520 --> 1:11:50.440 Every day that goes by raises my concern for Acus. 1:11:50.640 --> 1:11:53.320 I was ridiculously excited when we drafted him as a 1:11:53.360 --> 1:11:57.120 former wrestler myself, but now I'm very concerned. I can't 1:11:57.160 --> 1:11:59.800 recall a single red Shirt that has come back and 1:12:00.040 --> 1:12:02.559 on anything. So if he doesn't play this year, I'm 1:12:02.560 --> 1:12:04.120 calling the Patriot's career over. 1:12:04.479 --> 1:12:05.280 I hope I'm wrong. 1:12:05.560 --> 1:12:08.200 On a lighter note, if you could take any Patriot 1:12:08.240 --> 1:12:11.160 from twenty twenty to twenty twenty three and put them 1:12:11.200 --> 1:12:14.519 as they were on a label coach team, who would 1:12:14.520 --> 1:12:17.200 it be. I'd love to have seen the twenty twenty 1:12:17.200 --> 1:12:19.720 two Judon, but Mac Wilson would have been a good 1:12:19.720 --> 1:12:22.960 one as well. Oh really, so who would have I 1:12:22.960 --> 1:12:24.680 get what he's trying to say is who would have 1:12:24.760 --> 1:12:32.080 benefited from being on a on a vable team? 1:12:32.400 --> 1:12:34.880 Nice? I try to do the biggest team that I 1:12:34.960 --> 1:12:35.600 can find. Don't you? 1:12:36.520 --> 1:12:37.640 Don't you disrespect the. 1:12:39.240 --> 1:12:40.240 Like he played receiver for. 1:12:41.800 --> 1:12:43.559 The past rushow that year with Judon. 1:12:44.160 --> 1:12:46.719 I think it was that got a bunch of sacks 1:12:46.760 --> 1:12:49.599 as a result in d Trich Like that was actually 1:12:49.600 --> 1:12:51.759 a great pass rush that would have been really interesting. 1:12:51.920 --> 1:12:54.839 Yeah, had a heater in the second half of the season. 1:12:55.840 --> 1:12:58.920 Turns out it was like a bunch of backup tackles 1:12:59.000 --> 1:12:59.680 Judon on the. 1:12:59.640 --> 1:13:01.639 Other side, right, jud just took all. 1:13:03.240 --> 1:13:05.559 I mean, John is the best player in that. 1:13:06.400 --> 1:13:08.439 It's not a bad pick for that. But I think 1:13:08.520 --> 1:13:10.680 that the same thing would have happened. You know, that 1:13:10.720 --> 1:13:14.200 happened with Belichick, like he was a fast starter, flash 1:13:14.240 --> 1:13:16.800 in the pan, petered out the second half of the year. 1:13:16.840 --> 1:13:17.800 That was a pattern for him. 1:13:17.920 --> 1:13:21.120 Do you think John would have had the same Smith 1:13:21.240 --> 1:13:24.519 John Smith time and new I keep thinking of that. 1:13:25.360 --> 1:13:28.160 But he certainly got better before and after he was 1:13:28.200 --> 1:13:28.680 on the right. 1:13:28.920 --> 1:13:31.519 Yeah, well, because he goes and plays for Arthur Smith, 1:13:34.280 --> 1:13:35.160 Josh McDaniels. 1:13:35.240 --> 1:13:37.120 You know, but he played for Josh McDaniels. 1:13:37.000 --> 1:13:41.439 That's true. But not with Drake May Okay. 1:13:41.040 --> 1:13:42.599 I'll give him. That's a good point. 1:13:43.720 --> 1:13:45.760 Can't argue with that. There's not a lot to tea. 1:13:46.120 --> 1:13:46.679 It wasn't. 1:13:48.040 --> 1:13:49.439 That didn't argue with that. 1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:50.000 That's the thing. 1:13:50.200 --> 1:13:52.519 It's like Judahn was kind of the savior of those years, 1:13:52.560 --> 1:13:54.120 the only kind of like impact player. 1:13:54.160 --> 1:13:56.439 And I mean and Paul's right. 1:13:56.360 --> 1:13:58.960 Like early in the season, he's got the red sleeves going, 1:13:59.000 --> 1:14:01.840 everyone's on board and then kind of. 1:14:01.960 --> 1:14:04.400 You know, withers out. But I don't know, I don't 1:14:04.439 --> 1:14:05.679 really can't really think that anyway. 1:14:05.720 --> 1:14:07.920 That's the only one I can really think of, especially 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:11.879 in light of what this team lacks. You know, a prime, 1:14:12.160 --> 1:14:15.160 you know, a prime Matthew Judon who had whatever ten 1:14:15.240 --> 1:14:18.639 twelve sacks in the first ten weeks, So that's you know, whatever, 1:14:18.680 --> 1:14:22.120 season twenty one, whatever it was. I'd plug him in 1:14:22.200 --> 1:14:24.759 with Rabel and this coaching staff and on this defense. 1:14:24.840 --> 1:14:27.280 Yeah, I mean, Devin mccordy with Woodson if he didn't 1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:28.760 have Buyer that that would work for me. 1:14:30.000 --> 1:14:31.559 But there wasn't a lot of talent on the team 1:14:31.800 --> 1:14:32.400 at that time. 1:14:33.560 --> 1:14:39.479 Cam Newton, Cam Newton, Chris with a Tia n talking 1:14:39.479 --> 1:14:43.840 about training camp of the past. Since we're going down 1:14:43.920 --> 1:14:46.160 memory lane, my favorite memory was the year I went 1:14:46.240 --> 1:14:49.080 down to practice and Fred waved me over and invited 1:14:49.120 --> 1:14:51.360 me to sit with him in the media tent, getting 1:14:51.360 --> 1:14:53.559 a chance to be behind the scenes listening to the 1:14:53.560 --> 1:14:57.200 conversations and seeing everything from that perspective felt like I 1:14:57.240 --> 1:15:00.280 had been given access to a whole different world. Fred 1:15:00.320 --> 1:15:02.679 pulled rank and managed to get me an official media 1:15:02.720 --> 1:15:04.960 pass with my name on it. When the pass was 1:15:05.000 --> 1:15:09.080 handed over, I noticed the affiliation listed as PFW, which 1:15:09.120 --> 1:15:12.120 made it feel even more legitimate. I remember thinking that 1:15:12.280 --> 1:15:15.640 was about the coolest thing imaginable. I still have it 1:15:15.680 --> 1:15:17.680 in my office in a place of prominence. 1:15:17.760 --> 1:15:21.840 Wow, that's cool. Come true. I told you was a kingmaker. 1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:24.639 The best part, though, came when Fred asked for the pass. 1:15:25.080 --> 1:15:27.800 The person who had written out my first name and 1:15:27.920 --> 1:15:30.200 last name looked at it, paused, and said, oh, this 1:15:30.320 --> 1:15:32.200 is for Chris with a T, I A N. 1:15:32.920 --> 1:15:34.160 We got a good laugh out of it. 1:15:34.240 --> 1:15:37.760 I forget who would that have been that gave him that. 1:15:37.960 --> 1:15:40.000 I don't know, somebody from PR, right. 1:15:40.080 --> 1:15:45.200 Yeah, we did have occasionally, people in media relations or fans. 1:15:45.360 --> 1:15:46.160 Yeah, occasionally. 1:15:46.320 --> 1:15:48.519 Really, I think you're going to say listen. I was like, 1:15:48.560 --> 1:15:49.960 I think they listened to every show. 1:15:51.840 --> 1:15:53.920 Yeah, I mean that that would happen from time to time. 1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:55.160 Yep. 1:15:55.280 --> 1:15:58.439 And I think maybe when Christian came in, Andy would 1:15:58.439 --> 1:16:01.360 have just like scurried behind the ropes. 1:16:01.680 --> 1:16:02.720 I don't interact with it. 1:16:03.479 --> 1:16:05.960 I do remember the first practice that I covered as 1:16:06.000 --> 1:16:09.000 a reporter, and I was on cloud nine. I mean, 1:16:09.040 --> 1:16:11.880 I can understand where he's coming from. I was still 1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:13.519 living in New York, but I came for like a 1:16:13.520 --> 1:16:18.200 weekend practice. Clintis got me credentialed, and I remember just 1:16:18.240 --> 1:16:20.880 like beaming their way home, like I flew like it 1:16:20.920 --> 1:16:23.640 was it was cool. It was like that was like 1:16:24.960 --> 1:16:26.040 dream dream made. 1:16:26.120 --> 1:16:27.920 Oh well, you see those people every year too, Like 1:16:27.960 --> 1:16:31.080 you'll see a you kid who I was trying to 1:16:31.080 --> 1:16:31.720 like go up. 1:16:32.280 --> 1:16:34.760 My first like game I covered was one of the 1:16:34.800 --> 1:16:37.960 preseason games that summer, like and you just you never 1:16:38.000 --> 1:16:39.040 forget your first you. 1:16:38.920 --> 1:16:42.240 Know, well, with we grow up too. 1:16:42.400 --> 1:16:45.360 Like with Twitter, you guys were like kind of accessible 1:16:45.400 --> 1:16:48.439 to us, not really, but you listen and you follow 1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:50.200 you guys and you feel like you kind of know them. 1:16:50.400 --> 1:16:52.760 Was it like that for you guys? Like reading great 1:16:52.800 --> 1:16:55.800 columnists in more of the newspaper. 1:16:55.240 --> 1:16:57.480 Era and then meeting them. 1:16:57.479 --> 1:17:00.920 Not even just meeting them, but like I feel I 1:17:00.920 --> 1:17:03.759 got training camp. Every year there's kids yelling like my Grease, 1:17:03.880 --> 1:17:06.680 Mike Grease or pogging Craft even Volan, you know what. 1:17:06.760 --> 1:17:08.840 I mean, like, was that always the. 1:17:08.920 --> 1:17:12.040 Caser they did not yelling at But it wasn't like that. 1:17:12.320 --> 1:17:14.560 But was it more with Twitter that they became so 1:17:14.880 --> 1:17:17.519 front facing the old stadium? 1:17:17.760 --> 1:17:19.360 Yeah? Oh yeah. 1:17:19.439 --> 1:17:22.759 So at the end of the game in the old stadium, 1:17:23.120 --> 1:17:25.240 the press would come down from the press box which 1:17:25.320 --> 1:17:27.400 was on the fifty yard line, and you'd have to 1:17:27.520 --> 1:17:29.880 walk down the sideline and then through the end zone 1:17:30.120 --> 1:17:31.600 to get to the other side and wait. So with 1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:34.919 two minutes and it was like walking through a gauntlet. 1:17:37.600 --> 1:17:42.360 Yeah, Donaldson, go kill yourself. They killed us. 1:17:43.040 --> 1:17:45.080 It almost got to the point where if someone didn't 1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:47.559 say something bad about you, that was bad too, because 1:17:47.600 --> 1:17:49.840 that meant you were irrelevant. 1:17:49.920 --> 1:17:52.160 Yeah, but we all we all. 1:17:52.120 --> 1:17:52.719 Heard our share. 1:17:52.800 --> 1:17:55.519 But you know, the team was not good, and so. 1:17:55.720 --> 1:17:58.240 They were yelling at him because they were writing bad things. 1:17:58.280 --> 1:18:02.200 I guess, you know retired, Oh yeah, all the time. 1:18:02.760 --> 1:18:03.640 What would they say about you? 1:18:04.640 --> 1:18:07.880 Just yeah, you don't know what football? What's what's the 1:18:08.040 --> 1:18:09.840 what's the number one thing that you would have said 1:18:09.840 --> 1:18:10.920 about me prior. 1:18:10.760 --> 1:18:15.000 To about a year and a half ago that you're hey, fatty. 1:18:18.840 --> 1:18:20.320 Mean, you are so mean. 1:18:21.040 --> 1:18:22.960 Leave the body shaming out of it. You want to 1:18:23.000 --> 1:18:27.320 come after Paul's reporting on the team for air Tight. 1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:32.320 I mean, I don't know im. You just walk on bully, 1:18:32.720 --> 1:18:35.040 but it was, it was, it was. It was a 1:18:35.080 --> 1:18:35.639 lot different. 1:18:36.160 --> 1:18:38.160 They weren't yelling at a salad. 1:18:39.640 --> 1:18:42.000 We have great fans though that come out to training 1:18:42.040 --> 1:18:44.439 camp and that's uh, you know, we yelled at you know, 1:18:44.560 --> 1:18:46.439 people come up and it's it's great. 1:18:47.400 --> 1:18:50.880 Nobody like though Mike Grease is pretty I don't. 1:18:50.760 --> 1:18:54.320 Think Mike takes takes any bullets. It's always positive with 1:18:54.640 --> 1:18:56.160 He's like pretty much everybody else. 1:18:56.560 --> 1:18:58.120 You would think he was like Paul McCartney. 1:18:59.479 --> 1:18:59.880 They want to. 1:19:02.320 --> 1:19:05.200 When I get chirped now it's generally positive. I will 1:19:05.280 --> 1:19:07.519 say that because I think people listen to this show 1:19:07.600 --> 1:19:10.760 and they really like our dynamic, and I think far 1:19:10.880 --> 1:19:12.400 more positive than negative. 1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:17.920 Because I was complaining earlier about one of Paul's shows 1:19:17.960 --> 1:19:22.400 comparing the numbers of Diggs and AJ Brown and Mike 1:19:22.439 --> 1:19:28.360 Wilson and the Cardinals and uh, Anthony says maybe they 1:19:28.520 --> 1:19:31.360 meant meaning Felgri and Maz that it was considered a 1:19:31.520 --> 1:19:34.719 down year for AJ and considered an impressive year for Diggs. 1:19:35.120 --> 1:19:37.800 Diggs coming off the injury versus A J. Brown in 1:19:37.880 --> 1:19:40.439 his prime. When you look at it like that, it 1:19:40.560 --> 1:19:43.559 makes sense. That's said, I believe he'll have an excellent year. 1:19:44.439 --> 1:19:48.120 Brown and Dobbs are giving Moss and Star Wars vibes. 1:19:52.360 --> 1:19:53.080 Yeah, I don't. 1:19:54.600 --> 1:19:58.439 Diggs's year was I think as expected. I don't think 1:19:58.479 --> 1:20:00.920 that he exceeded. I mean, the only thing I would 1:20:00.920 --> 1:20:03.680 say that exceeded was when we were out there in 1:20:03.720 --> 1:20:06.600 the spring last year and he was ready to go 1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:08.840 and running around, yeah, cutting all over the place. I 1:20:08.880 --> 1:20:11.160 didn't expect to see that, but I expected him to 1:20:11.160 --> 1:20:12.519 be ready to go at the start of the season, 1:20:12.560 --> 1:20:15.040 and I expected him to have about one hundred catches 1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:16.960 for one thousand yards. I think he had eighty something 1:20:17.000 --> 1:20:17.880 for one thousand yards. 1:20:18.360 --> 1:20:19.040 So like, I don't. 1:20:19.880 --> 1:20:22.120 That's kind of what Diggs is now. He's not that 1:20:22.280 --> 1:20:24.920 fifteen hundred yard guy that he used to be like 1:20:25.360 --> 1:20:26.680 in Minnesota and early in. 1:20:26.680 --> 1:20:28.800 His Buffalo days, like the last few years. 1:20:29.400 --> 1:20:31.760 That's the number one thing when you to get back 1:20:31.800 --> 1:20:34.240 to what we started the show with the excitement level, 1:20:34.400 --> 1:20:37.040 and you guys said AJ Brown, and I'm totally with you. 1:20:39.000 --> 1:20:42.960 Is AJ Brown still capable of being Vinta JJ Brown 1:20:43.160 --> 1:20:47.640 fifteen hundred yard guy? You know, maybe double digit touchdowns, 1:20:48.160 --> 1:20:52.240 you know, solid fifteen or so plus average per catch. 1:20:52.840 --> 1:20:56.040 Is that guy still there or has he? Is he 1:20:56.280 --> 1:20:58.240 now what he's been the last two years in Philly. 1:20:58.400 --> 1:21:00.360 The first two years in Philly were off the arts. 1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:05.360 The last two were pedestrian for him. For him, so 1:21:05.600 --> 1:21:09.120 I'm wondering motivation all the stuff Evan talked about with 1:21:09.200 --> 1:21:12.720 its excitement to be a Patriot. He says, you know, 1:21:13.680 --> 1:21:15.479 watch and I'll show you about the knee. When he 1:21:15.600 --> 1:21:17.880 was asked about the knee. That's what I kind of 1:21:17.920 --> 1:21:19.799 want to see. How does he look back quarterback. 1:21:19.880 --> 1:21:22.799 I think it's easy to just look at the stats 1:21:22.840 --> 1:21:25.000 between the two guys, and what I'm most interested in 1:21:25.120 --> 1:21:28.800 is also just the presence that aj Brown brings to 1:21:28.880 --> 1:21:32.040 the offense with his physicality that is not anywhere close 1:21:32.080 --> 1:21:32.800 to what Diggs does. 1:21:32.880 --> 1:21:34.599 And there's more than one way to skin a cat. 1:21:35.000 --> 1:21:38.439 He's a phenomenal route runner Diggs is, but that element 1:21:38.520 --> 1:21:40.840 of physicality, and you know, if he still has that, 1:21:41.439 --> 1:21:44.160 if he still is barreling through guys, if it's still oh, 1:21:44.200 --> 1:21:45.720 you're going to try to just push him out of 1:21:45.760 --> 1:21:47.720 balance like good luck. Like that to me is an 1:21:47.720 --> 1:21:49.599 element that I think, you know, we can get caught 1:21:49.640 --> 1:21:51.160 up in the numbers of it all, but there's also 1:21:51.360 --> 1:21:54.120 just a style that he has that I'm excited to 1:21:54.240 --> 1:21:56.519 just see that in the offense, and that's like it 1:21:56.640 --> 1:21:58.320 just fits their play style how they want to go 1:21:58.360 --> 1:22:01.439 into games physically dominating people, and that's what AJ Brown does. 1:22:01.560 --> 1:22:03.160 There's a lot of elements with him that I feel 1:22:03.200 --> 1:22:08.320 like you can't quantify necessarily with like catches and yards 1:22:08.400 --> 1:22:10.960 and things like that, because of how he impacts how 1:22:11.040 --> 1:22:13.880 defenses play them and how they you know, game plan 1:22:14.000 --> 1:22:16.200 for them on a week to wake basis, and are 1:22:16.240 --> 1:22:19.120 you seeing lighter boxes as he's seeing number one corners 1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:21.599 like all these different types of things that I don't 1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:23.720 know if that necessarily is Well, he had eighty three 1:22:23.800 --> 1:22:26.320 catches for a thousand yards, like that doesn't necessarily tell 1:22:26.360 --> 1:22:27.000 the whole story. 1:22:27.120 --> 1:22:28.360 Yep, you guys right about that. 1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:30.680 And I think Diggs maybe had an element of that too, 1:22:30.840 --> 1:22:32.680 just differently, like it was just he was playing in 1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:35.679 different parts of the field. But I think that that's 1:22:35.720 --> 1:22:37.920 the biggest thing with AJ Brown is you know, can 1:22:38.000 --> 1:22:40.320 he have that kind of impact on the team. I'm 1:22:40.400 --> 1:22:42.120 ass worried about is he going to go for fifteen 1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:44.560 hundred yards, and I'm more interested. 1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:46.040 About the explosiveness and the impact. 1:22:46.200 --> 1:22:48.280 Like, I don't think Diggs was capable of being what 1:22:48.400 --> 1:22:50.880 you're just what you just described anymore. I think Diggs 1:22:51.000 --> 1:22:53.800 maximize what he has left basically, and I think he 1:22:53.840 --> 1:22:56.479 could do that again for someone. I expect someone will 1:22:56.520 --> 1:22:58.840 sign him at some point, and I would expect him 1:22:58.880 --> 1:23:00.519 to be a productive guy again like that. 1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:01.839 I do not think. 1:23:03.120 --> 1:23:06.080 The balance of Diggs's career is still He's still capable 1:23:06.120 --> 1:23:10.960 of like that huge, huge impact. He was absolutely the 1:23:11.040 --> 1:23:14.160 guy that every other defense focused on and doubled and 1:23:14.240 --> 1:23:17.120 he could get to all three levels of a defense 1:23:17.200 --> 1:23:19.120 he couldn't do. I don't think that anymore on a 1:23:19.160 --> 1:23:20.759 consistent basis for the Patriots. 1:23:21.760 --> 1:23:24.080 Let's go to the phones, herms and DC. 1:23:24.320 --> 1:23:27.519 What's up, Hermy, what's going on? 1:23:27.800 --> 1:23:28.000 Gang? 1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:28.400 Hey? 1:23:28.600 --> 1:23:29.160 Everything good? 1:23:29.360 --> 1:23:30.040 I mean, that's good. 1:23:31.000 --> 1:23:33.639 I have a quick comment and I'll hop off the phone. 1:23:34.920 --> 1:23:36.479 I didn't feel like doing this, but I feel like 1:23:36.520 --> 1:23:39.360 anita response is called up. That was a little bit 1:23:39.400 --> 1:23:42.840 ignorant from before to break. I think it's so well 1:23:42.880 --> 1:23:46.160 Campbell conversations getting out of control like this. I mean, 1:23:46.240 --> 1:23:50.400 this was a rookie to protected take Miss Blonds all 1:23:50.439 --> 1:23:51.479 the way to the super. 1:23:51.280 --> 1:23:52.960 Bowl and he was hurt. 1:23:53.160 --> 1:23:55.680 Yes, he might have not played well, but out of 1:23:55.680 --> 1:23:59.240 them think there's even a left tech Hall of Fame. 1:23:59.320 --> 1:24:01.280 Was that if you'd have had the same injury, that 1:24:01.640 --> 1:24:03.479 would have not performed less than you know what I mean. 1:24:03.600 --> 1:24:05.960 So we just got to you know, we just gotta 1:24:05.960 --> 1:24:08.560 give some time. Like in this I feel like in 1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:11.000 this society nowadays, you want everything right of way, and 1:24:11.200 --> 1:24:13.679 we just need to give certain things time. I guess 1:24:13.720 --> 1:24:17.519 my overpoint is Will Campbell's fine, He's going to be great. 1:24:18.040 --> 1:24:20.280 He was hurt and he'll be fine. 1:24:21.080 --> 1:24:25.720 Please say you guys, okay, all right, yeah, yeah, we'll see. 1:24:25.840 --> 1:24:29.680 Let's go with that here too. You expect something I'm 1:24:29.720 --> 1:24:31.920 on board stronger hopefully. Yeah. 1:24:32.040 --> 1:24:34.720 I think that that's more less than so about the 1:24:34.800 --> 1:24:38.240 injury is his physical development. I think that was something 1:24:38.280 --> 1:24:40.360 that've Abel kind of hinted to us to said the 1:24:40.439 --> 1:24:43.320 combine that is just pretty blunt with it talking about 1:24:43.360 --> 1:24:46.880 Campbell getting physically stronger and then technique wise. You know, 1:24:46.920 --> 1:24:49.240 I've talked about this before with some of the arm 1:24:49.280 --> 1:24:51.080 length deficiencies, like he's going to have to be a 1:24:51.120 --> 1:24:53.160 really good technician. He's going to have to make up 1:24:53.240 --> 1:24:56.680 for some of his physical limitations in different ways with 1:24:56.800 --> 1:24:59.360 his technique. And I don't expect a twenty one year 1:24:59.400 --> 1:25:01.560 old rookie to know how to do that kind of 1:25:01.600 --> 1:25:03.519 stuff right out of the gate. But as we get 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:05.519 into year two and year three and you're four, like, 1:25:05.600 --> 1:25:07.920 he's got to improve in those areas to the point 1:25:07.920 --> 1:25:10.360 where he can cover it up. So both those things, 1:25:10.439 --> 1:25:11.920 I think he's got to be stronger, and I think 1:25:11.920 --> 1:25:14.280 he's got to be more technically sound at times. 1:25:14.960 --> 1:25:16.840 But I don't think that he can't do it. I 1:25:17.360 --> 1:25:18.120 think we got to see it. 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:22.559 Darius and Louisville Wright since says, I'm not overly concerned 1:25:22.600 --> 1:25:25.719 about the edge position. I understand everyone wants a double 1:25:25.800 --> 1:25:27.920 digit sack guy, but I thought we were all aware 1:25:28.040 --> 1:25:31.360 that you can't do everything in one offseason. We upgraded 1:25:31.400 --> 1:25:34.080 the line and offensive weapons while adding a top safety. 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:37.639 Patriots didn't sit on their hands entirely, and we did 1:25:37.840 --> 1:25:40.960 sign one draft one with the pressure coming through the 1:25:41.040 --> 1:25:44.600 middle with Milton Barmore, while having a top five secondary. 1:25:44.880 --> 1:25:47.840 We only need cleanup guys on the outside. We don't 1:25:48.000 --> 1:25:51.000 need a Miles Garrett yes, it'll be great, but I 1:25:51.080 --> 1:25:52.519 think we'll be just fine. 1:25:53.000 --> 1:25:56.640 They also lost one, signed one, I mean drafted one 1:25:56.720 --> 1:25:57.400 and lost one. 1:25:57.400 --> 1:26:01.880 Lost two wed count Anthony Jennings too. Yeah, I think 1:26:01.920 --> 1:26:04.760 that His overall point, though I agree with him, is 1:26:04.840 --> 1:26:08.680 that they found ways last year to get pressure on 1:26:08.720 --> 1:26:10.920 the quarterback, whether it was blitzing in the playoffs or 1:26:10.960 --> 1:26:13.400 the two guys in the middle he mentioned. So I 1:26:13.439 --> 1:26:15.720 don't necessarily think their talent level on the edge is 1:26:15.800 --> 1:26:17.120 worse than it was last year. 1:26:17.800 --> 1:26:20.080 I just wish that Akis and Landry were going to 1:26:20.120 --> 1:26:20.680 be So. 1:26:22.360 --> 1:26:25.360 That's a big if to me, is like, if you 1:26:25.439 --> 1:26:29.080 plug in Landry that started the season this year, then 1:26:29.120 --> 1:26:31.320 I would say that's absolutely true. I don't think Landry 1:26:31.400 --> 1:26:32.800 will be what he was in the first five or 1:26:32.800 --> 1:26:34.080 six weeks again. 1:26:34.640 --> 1:26:36.679 But if you look at it just where they ended 1:26:36.760 --> 1:26:41.160 last year, Landry kind of not really contributing a ton. 1:26:41.760 --> 1:26:45.519 Chase on Ponder is kind of the third guy, and 1:26:45.680 --> 1:26:50.639 Jennings versus Draymond Jones. Whatever they get out of Landry, 1:26:51.160 --> 1:26:54.040 Akis and Ponders, it's kind of the same. 1:26:55.600 --> 1:26:57.559 I don't think Landry is the same. I don't think. 1:26:58.040 --> 1:27:00.519 I'm just not a believer in like these guys. 1:27:00.640 --> 1:27:03.519 I mean, you don't think Jones as good as Chasen 1:27:04.520 --> 1:27:06.840 at rushing the passer. I think Jones might be a 1:27:06.880 --> 1:27:09.559 better all around player. He might be like stronger at 1:27:09.560 --> 1:27:12.479 the point of attack and better fit for them. He 1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:14.080 might end up being a better player. So I have 1:27:14.160 --> 1:27:18.200 no problem with that signing. But I also think it 1:27:18.600 --> 1:27:22.679 would just going off those three playoff games during the season, 1:27:22.720 --> 1:27:24.439 we were sitting here every week saying they can't get 1:27:24.439 --> 1:27:27.439 any pressure on the passer. In the playoffs, they got 1:27:27.479 --> 1:27:30.280 all kinds of pressure on the passer. So if that's 1:27:30.360 --> 1:27:32.200 real and they can do that for a whole season, 1:27:32.360 --> 1:27:35.000 then Evan's right, we're worried about nothing. 1:27:35.400 --> 1:27:36.920 Well, I don't know if we're worried about nothing. I 1:27:37.040 --> 1:27:37.400 just don't. 1:27:37.560 --> 1:27:39.040 I don't think it was the strength of the team 1:27:39.120 --> 1:27:40.760 last year, and I don't think it's the strength of 1:27:40.800 --> 1:27:42.840 the team this year. And I don't know how much 1:27:43.160 --> 1:27:46.880 they've really lost talent wise in the group this year 1:27:46.960 --> 1:27:49.439 compared to last year. But last year wasn't It wasn't 1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:51.479 great either. Like I'm not saying it was, you know, 1:27:51.560 --> 1:27:53.360 any better or worse. It just was kind of the 1:27:53.439 --> 1:27:55.960 same as it was last year. And you're hoping that 1:27:56.600 --> 1:27:58.479 Zach Korr and the staff is going to drop the 1:27:58.560 --> 1:27:59.960 blitzes like they did and he'll. 1:28:00.080 --> 1:28:01.800 I just didn't think last year it was good enough, 1:28:01.920 --> 1:28:02.280 that's all. 1:28:02.560 --> 1:28:04.800 Yeah, they were like kind of middle of the path 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:06.840 and then but we talked about it plenty, and that's 1:28:06.880 --> 1:28:09.120 what's a little frustrating as you get now you know 1:28:09.360 --> 1:28:12.120 Camp Eve essentially and it feels kind of the same 1:28:12.200 --> 1:28:14.439 in the same ballpark. And I think the point about 1:28:14.479 --> 1:28:16.200 Anthony Jennings is a good one. I mean, you know, 1:28:16.320 --> 1:28:18.640 he was nothing special as a pass rusher, but he 1:28:18.800 --> 1:28:20.880 was a solid guy that they that they could put 1:28:20.920 --> 1:28:23.439 in there and that they found. Now maybe Draymond Jones 1:28:23.800 --> 1:28:26.080 fills some of that need. But I think the bottom 1:28:26.160 --> 1:28:27.920 line with this group is just the juice off the 1:28:28.040 --> 1:28:31.719 edge and when it's third and long, Williams and Christian 1:28:31.720 --> 1:28:33.559 Barmbo can't do. And I also think if you're sort 1:28:33.600 --> 1:28:38.200 of middleish, you know, mid mid, you're sort of mid 1:28:39.360 --> 1:28:42.240 when you completely control every game the way they did 1:28:42.360 --> 1:28:44.599 last year, like I think you should have had inflated 1:28:44.680 --> 1:28:47.479 numbers based on the second half of every game the 1:28:47.560 --> 1:28:52.240 other team was in you know, eighty five pass mode. 1:28:53.560 --> 1:28:55.519 Again in the playoffs, they showed you they could do 1:28:55.560 --> 1:28:59.360 it a little bit different, and I think they played 1:28:59.439 --> 1:29:02.400 more man and I think that was better suited for 1:29:02.800 --> 1:29:08.320 Gonzo and Gonzales, Davis and Jones. I think that worked, 1:29:08.320 --> 1:29:09.880 and I think that helped the guys upfront with some 1:29:10.000 --> 1:29:13.800 of the schemes that they worked. It worked very well. 1:29:14.120 --> 1:29:16.240 When they got to the point where they had to 1:29:16.320 --> 1:29:18.400 have it work well when they needed it most, it 1:29:18.560 --> 1:29:21.000 was there. So I'll have some faith in it until 1:29:21.000 --> 1:29:21.719 I see otherwise. 1:29:21.800 --> 1:29:23.880 Yeah, I think the big question with that is is 1:29:23.960 --> 1:29:25.840 that sustainable over seventeen games? 1:29:26.240 --> 1:29:28.200 Can you play balls to the wall like that? That 1:29:28.200 --> 1:29:30.439 would be my first seventeen games. I think it's easy 1:29:30.479 --> 1:29:31.960 to do it. Not easy, but I think you can 1:29:32.080 --> 1:29:34.599 do it for three to four games in a playoff setting. 1:29:34.840 --> 1:29:38.000 Blitzing over forty percent of the time for seventeen straight 1:29:38.080 --> 1:29:39.960 weeks is not sustainable. 1:29:39.439 --> 1:29:42.719 And I do wonder, and I don't have the numbers 1:29:43.400 --> 1:29:46.760 you might have them committed to memory. My just anecdotally, 1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:50.080 I would guess that they blitzed more against the Chargers 1:29:50.120 --> 1:29:52.719 and more against the Texans and less against the Broncos. 1:29:53.439 --> 1:29:56.599 That's actually it'so I mean, these are based on ESPN Summers. 1:29:56.640 --> 1:29:59.960 I had a forty five point five against blitzerate against 1:30:00.560 --> 1:30:03.240 the Chargers, then thirty six point five against Houston, forty 1:30:03.280 --> 1:30:04.320 point five against Denver. 1:30:04.479 --> 1:30:06.599 Okay, so I'm a little surprise point one agains. Yeah, 1:30:06.600 --> 1:30:06.840 I'm not. 1:30:06.840 --> 1:30:09.519 Surprised about the Seattle one, because they blitzed every play 1:30:09.600 --> 1:30:11.639 once they fell a way behind. Yeah, they were blitzing 1:30:11.880 --> 1:30:14.320 trying to cause turn rightly, so they were trying to 1:30:14.360 --> 1:30:17.400 cause turnovers to get back in the game, desperate. But 1:30:18.840 --> 1:30:21.519 you got the Chargers had nothing of an offensive line. 1:30:22.080 --> 1:30:24.400 The Texans had nothing of an offensive line. All their 1:30:24.479 --> 1:30:27.880 starters were out for both and then Denver actually has 1:30:27.920 --> 1:30:30.400 a decent offensive line. So I was surprised that that 1:30:30.520 --> 1:30:31.519 number was as high as a one. 1:30:31.600 --> 1:30:31.760 Yeah. 1:30:32.120 --> 1:30:35.080 I think they attacked, you know, also like they knew 1:30:35.080 --> 1:30:36.920 that if they got pressured on Stroud that he was 1:30:36.960 --> 1:30:38.760 going to cough the ball up, so you know, and 1:30:38.840 --> 1:30:39.080 I just. 1:30:39.160 --> 1:30:41.800 Wonder if they blitzed more because it was Stidham that 1:30:41.960 --> 1:30:42.400 was where. 1:30:42.439 --> 1:30:44.479 And I think Darnold too. I mean, we all remember 1:30:44.520 --> 1:30:47.360 seeing ghosts right like. That wasn't that long ago. So 1:30:47.880 --> 1:30:51.200 I that's the question is what the defense that they 1:30:51.240 --> 1:30:54.479 played in the playoffs was extremely aggressive. Ton de mand 1:30:55.320 --> 1:30:57.400 Ton of blitzing. I don't know if you can do 1:30:57.520 --> 1:31:00.560 that for seventeen games. When you do it against a 1:31:00.640 --> 1:31:04.280 three or four game sample, that's a different story. But again, 1:31:04.360 --> 1:31:06.840 I just keep with the edge thing. I just like 1:31:06.920 --> 1:31:08.880 I think Draymond Jones and Chase On are kind of 1:31:08.920 --> 1:31:09.920 a one for one swap. 1:31:10.040 --> 1:31:12.080 Yeah, no, I think they're absolutely think that. 1:31:12.320 --> 1:31:13.920 I think that, But I think that that even the 1:31:14.000 --> 1:31:17.559 numbers bear that out. Like from like a statistical perspective, 1:31:17.560 --> 1:31:20.559 they're basically the same guy from a pass rush standpoint, 1:31:20.920 --> 1:31:23.600 So that one's kind of a watch. The question really was, 1:31:23.760 --> 1:31:26.639 you know, guys like Akus and Ponder and those players 1:31:26.640 --> 1:31:29.439 were going to have to step up and we don't. 1:31:29.840 --> 1:31:30.200 I don't know. 1:31:30.479 --> 1:31:33.040 There's a little bit of context too. I think that's interesting. 1:31:33.320 --> 1:31:35.240 Over the course of the season in the regular season, 1:31:35.240 --> 1:31:37.880 they only had a blitzerrate over forty percent three times. 1:31:37.960 --> 1:31:40.000 The first game of the season. Did that go? 1:31:40.200 --> 1:31:41.920 And then the last two games of the season when 1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:44.400 you had the short handed Dolphins and Jets and you 1:31:44.560 --> 1:31:45.360 just killed. 1:31:45.240 --> 1:31:48.120 Right, And I wonder, and you know, looking back at that, 1:31:48.240 --> 1:31:49.840 I wonder if they only did it the last two 1:31:49.920 --> 1:31:51.760 games because they knew they were going to do it 1:31:51.800 --> 1:31:54.000 in the playoffs, and they would get in some practice. 1:31:53.720 --> 1:32:00.280 Game fall Julian and German could jump Fatty go you 1:32:00.400 --> 1:32:04.800 to Sally. Julian in Germany has a who am I game? 1:32:05.040 --> 1:32:06.000 You have a vegetable. 1:32:06.160 --> 1:32:08.759 Remember, you can guess at any time, but once you guess, 1:32:09.120 --> 1:32:14.120 you're done. I played for Arizona College. I was a 1:32:14.160 --> 1:32:18.720 sixth round pick. I played for eight NFL teams so far, 1:32:19.640 --> 1:32:22.360 meaning he was a Patriots, he was a Patriot, or 1:32:22.400 --> 1:32:24.719 he was a Patriot. I joined the Patriots in twenty 1:32:24.960 --> 1:32:30.040 nineteen Arizona. I'm the record holder for longest field goal 1:32:30.080 --> 1:32:33.719 in the Alliance of American Football justin. 1:32:35.160 --> 1:32:36.040 In twenty twenty one. 1:32:36.080 --> 1:32:37.840 I scored the most points in the league with one 1:32:37.920 --> 1:32:40.120 hundred and fifty, tied with Daniel Carlson. 1:32:42.280 --> 1:32:43.760 Nick everybody I. 1:32:43.840 --> 1:32:45.479 Was just I thought it was Nick Fole, but I 1:32:45.560 --> 1:32:47.599 didn't want to be Rainfult. 1:32:47.720 --> 1:32:50.479 I got nervous. I was like, Okay. As soon as 1:32:50.520 --> 1:32:52.000 I heard the spring league thing, I was like, I 1:32:52.040 --> 1:32:52.800 think this is Nick Fole. 1:32:53.000 --> 1:32:54.960 That's one out of three. The second one I played 1:32:55.000 --> 1:32:56.799 for the Rochester Yellow Jackets. 1:32:57.160 --> 1:32:58.160 Okay, what is that? 1:32:58.800 --> 1:33:02.799 I was born in Canada blame. I had two stints 1:33:02.840 --> 1:33:07.000 with the Patriots. I won five Super Bowls, all with 1:33:07.120 --> 1:33:11.519 the Patriots. My first year with the Patriots was two thousand, 1:33:12.040 --> 1:33:16.320 my last year with twenty sixteen. It tells you it's 1:33:16.400 --> 1:33:20.599 not really probably a player. I was never a starter 1:33:21.920 --> 1:33:30.960 and I'm currently with the Tennessee Titans. By daybo is correct. Finally, 1:33:31.680 --> 1:33:33.599 I played for the University of Houston. 1:33:39.120 --> 1:33:47.040 Is correct. That's good, good stuff. I was over three. 1:33:48.920 --> 1:33:50.720 Was hard because you're thinking player. 1:33:51.000 --> 1:33:54.160 Once you said a starter, like yeah, come on. 1:33:55.640 --> 1:33:58.559 Andrews in Wisconsin on the hot line, what's up? Andrew? 1:33:59.800 --> 1:34:00.880 I just had a question. 1:34:01.040 --> 1:34:03.320 And I don't get to listen all the time, but 1:34:03.840 --> 1:34:07.120 I just I was on AI, you know, doing our research. 1:34:08.400 --> 1:34:12.080 I don't know if you've talked about this, but it 1:34:12.240 --> 1:34:16.840 says that I just came across this tidbit that accuses 1:34:17.080 --> 1:34:21.599 or Jack as whatever his name is, ag is well 1:34:21.840 --> 1:34:25.639 turning that way, but that his agent is the same 1:34:25.840 --> 1:34:26.760 as Gonzales. 1:34:26.960 --> 1:34:27.320 Correct. 1:34:28.800 --> 1:34:30.840 I don't know if you talked about is the Is 1:34:30.880 --> 1:34:34.080 there a chance that like there the aide just waiting 1:34:34.240 --> 1:34:38.559 for the one to the big one to get signed 1:34:38.600 --> 1:34:40.799 and then he'll come in. Are they using that as leverage. 1:34:41.120 --> 1:34:41.720 I don't think so. 1:34:42.000 --> 1:34:45.200 No, a rookie second round pick doesn't have anything to 1:34:45.280 --> 1:34:46.960 do with Christian Gonzalez's contract. 1:34:48.040 --> 1:34:49.640 Well, I just I didn't know if they were just 1:34:49.680 --> 1:34:53.040 trying to hold the second round pick over their head. 1:34:52.920 --> 1:34:58.080 Or I don't really know exactly with what the issue 1:34:58.280 --> 1:35:01.479 is here. But this isn't about he's holding out for 1:35:01.600 --> 1:35:04.439 more money. Like there seems to be like a tone 1:35:04.520 --> 1:35:07.240 like you were upset with actus here, like this is 1:35:07.280 --> 1:35:12.799 about something related to his health and when, oh whenever 1:35:12.880 --> 1:35:16.920 he had an issue and whether it was disclosed. There's 1:35:16.960 --> 1:35:19.000 something that we don't know about and I and I'm 1:35:19.040 --> 1:35:20.720 being first one to tell you, I don't know about it. 1:35:20.840 --> 1:35:22.920 I don't know what the details are. But there was 1:35:22.960 --> 1:35:25.240 a story behind this that we don't know yet. 1:35:26.120 --> 1:35:27.560 We may never know. I don't know. 1:35:27.920 --> 1:35:30.679 But this isn't like all the all the contracts have slotted. 1:35:31.760 --> 1:35:35.000 Yeah right, No, I just assumed that, like like he's 1:35:35.080 --> 1:35:39.920 not even in for classroom stuff. Seems like really adversarial. 1:35:40.680 --> 1:35:45.240 It's if if it's adversarial, it's it's because of something 1:35:45.360 --> 1:35:46.080 health related. 1:35:46.880 --> 1:35:50.320 Okay, all right, Like maybe he had. 1:35:50.200 --> 1:35:52.639 An injury that was pre existing that the patriots didn't 1:35:52.680 --> 1:35:55.240 know about or maybe they asked him about it and 1:35:55.320 --> 1:35:58.840 he didn't disclose it. Maybe he wasn't as honest about 1:35:58.880 --> 1:36:00.000 it as he might have been. There's a lot of 1:36:00.240 --> 1:36:03.679 different scenarios that could could be at play. I don't 1:36:03.720 --> 1:36:05.000 know which one it is, right, but. 1:36:05.320 --> 1:36:07.439 There's no doubt in that first press conference when we 1:36:07.560 --> 1:36:10.360 learned about it that Rabel you could see frustrated he was. 1:36:10.439 --> 1:36:11.080 He was annoyed. 1:36:11.200 --> 1:36:13.479 Yeah, and I and sometimes, like when I don't know 1:36:13.640 --> 1:36:17.559 the answers to these questions, sometimes I'm reluctant to SPECULA 1:36:17.640 --> 1:36:22.320 don't know. This isn't just like like Fernando Mendoza just 1:36:22.400 --> 1:36:24.400 signed here's number one pick of the drive. It wasn't 1:36:24.400 --> 1:36:26.640 about how much money he was going to get. It 1:36:26.800 --> 1:36:30.200 was something about language in the car or whatever. I 1:36:30.280 --> 1:36:32.720 have no idea what was going on in Vegas, but 1:36:32.720 --> 1:36:34.439 I don't think there was anybody that was too concerned 1:36:34.479 --> 1:36:34.800 about it. 1:36:35.560 --> 1:36:36.360 This is something. 1:36:38.000 --> 1:36:41.160 It has to be something health related, with Acis and 1:36:41.280 --> 1:36:45.040 the team being maybe not fully up to speed or 1:36:45.120 --> 1:36:46.560 aware of what the situation was. 1:36:46.640 --> 1:36:48.519 I mean, Verbel's going to get asked about it tomorrow. 1:36:48.800 --> 1:36:50.679 I'd be curious to see if it's changes. 1:36:51.200 --> 1:36:52.839 Yeah, some kind of nugget. 1:36:52.880 --> 1:36:54.599 I'd like to think he'd be asked about it tomorrow. 1:36:54.640 --> 1:36:57.960 We'll see, Yeah, Well, and Gonzalez too, right, and him, 1:36:58.000 --> 1:37:00.760 Gonzalez and Landry are going to be I would think one, two, three, 1:37:01.000 --> 1:37:03.799 you know, I mean, those are that's the roster. 1:37:03.760 --> 1:37:04.639 Questions right now? 1:37:05.240 --> 1:37:09.360 Is Christian Gonzalez here? And this Karen? Yeah, Karen, she 1:37:09.400 --> 1:37:09.600 knows what. 1:37:10.600 --> 1:37:15.280 I don't need to tell. Karen run circles around me. 1:37:15.360 --> 1:37:19.480 Journalist Ben in Arizona. 1:37:20.240 --> 1:37:24.240 It's annoying to hear constantly the Will Campbell was trash 1:37:24.360 --> 1:37:27.520 after his injury, that may was trash. 1:37:27.240 --> 1:37:29.920 In the playoffs. Sure, not great at all. 1:37:30.040 --> 1:37:32.680 However, how many other teams have been successful in the 1:37:32.720 --> 1:37:36.040 playoffs after playing the top four to five defenses in 1:37:36.120 --> 1:37:39.720 the league back to back to back. Regular season was 1:37:39.760 --> 1:37:43.200 amazing and better than expected, easy schedule, but you still 1:37:43.280 --> 1:37:45.880 have to win. Do you expect to see the team 1:37:45.960 --> 1:37:48.519 to play as well as in the regular season or 1:37:48.600 --> 1:37:50.639 will they look more like they did in the playoffs 1:37:50.920 --> 1:37:52.000 with this tougher season. 1:37:54.439 --> 1:37:55.880 Can we have somewhere in the Yeah? 1:37:55.880 --> 1:37:56.519 I hope not. 1:37:57.040 --> 1:37:59.600 Yeah, I hope the offense doesn't look like it didn't. 1:37:59.760 --> 1:38:02.240 In them at all. Yeah, I just I think all 1:38:02.280 --> 1:38:04.679 that stuff they were simplified. They were a good team 1:38:04.760 --> 1:38:06.760 last year. There. I think they'll be a good team 1:38:06.800 --> 1:38:07.120 this year. 1:38:07.240 --> 1:38:09.280 So what was closer to what it will be the 1:38:09.400 --> 1:38:11.599 offense in the playoffs or the defense in the playoffs 1:38:11.960 --> 1:38:12.439 last year? 1:38:13.520 --> 1:38:16.640 Will be defense and closer to what it will be, 1:38:16.840 --> 1:38:18.200 but it will be this year. I think the offense 1:38:18.200 --> 1:38:20.040 is going to be substantially better than it was in 1:38:20.120 --> 1:38:21.160 the playoffs. 1:38:20.760 --> 1:38:24.040 And the defense could be close, could be top five defense. 1:38:24.080 --> 1:38:26.280 I just think the offense was so bad in the playoffs, 1:38:27.280 --> 1:38:29.879 the top five offense and a top five defense. 1:38:30.680 --> 1:38:33.160 But well, to be better than last year in the playoffs, 1:38:33.200 --> 1:38:35.200 you just have to have an existed offense. 1:38:35.680 --> 1:38:35.880 Yeah. 1:38:36.800 --> 1:38:39.599 Yeah, he just said what do you think will be closer? 1:38:40.280 --> 1:38:43.479 The offense which was abysmal, And we all think that 1:38:43.560 --> 1:38:46.080 the offense has improved greatly, so we all think the 1:38:46.120 --> 1:38:48.200 offense is going to be better. So you're forced to 1:38:48.200 --> 1:38:51.400 say defense, and now they have nuclear. 1:38:51.080 --> 1:38:53.360 Probably defense and now eighty five bears. 1:38:53.520 --> 1:38:58.439 Yeah, well that that performance in the playoffs was if 1:38:58.479 --> 1:39:00.799 you put that in a regal seat, that's a defense, 1:39:01.080 --> 1:39:02.240 but could be if. 1:39:02.160 --> 1:39:03.880 They equally You said, which one is it going to 1:39:03.920 --> 1:39:04.280 be close? 1:39:04.400 --> 1:39:05.519 Which one is going to be closer? 1:39:05.600 --> 1:39:09.120 Though someone might answer this like vintage Paul would have 1:39:09.160 --> 1:39:10.760 answered this question, I don't think either one of them 1:39:10.840 --> 1:39:11.960 is going to be close to what it was in 1:39:12.040 --> 1:39:12.559 the playoffs. 1:39:12.840 --> 1:39:13.720 I think the offense is. 1:39:13.720 --> 1:39:14.920 Going to be much better, and I don't think the 1:39:15.000 --> 1:39:18.680 defense is going to approach that dominance that they had. 1:39:18.840 --> 1:39:20.280 And now we'll see what happens now. 1:39:20.320 --> 1:39:22.280 I think the defense is pretty good, so I'm not 1:39:22.360 --> 1:39:24.760 telling you that I think there's a huge drop off 1:39:24.840 --> 1:39:27.120 for the defense, but you set it up so we 1:39:27.240 --> 1:39:28.280 had to pick one or the other. 1:39:28.400 --> 1:39:31.840 Okay, good facilitation, Good facilitation by fan. 1:39:33.560 --> 1:39:35.240 Do you think there is a chance that they could 1:39:35.320 --> 1:39:36.920 have top five both sides. 1:39:36.640 --> 1:39:39.599 Of the ball? Again? Didn't they last year? 1:39:40.640 --> 1:39:42.880 Were the I don't know about that, but. 1:39:43.000 --> 1:39:45.400 Number you want scoring? The only thing I care about 1:39:45.439 --> 1:39:47.400 is scoring, and I think they were top five in both. 1:39:47.520 --> 1:39:49.320 I can't get an I'll get there in a second. 1:39:49.360 --> 1:39:50.320 Maybe they weren't. I don't know. 1:39:50.400 --> 1:39:53.320 Maybe maybe I'm just being a homer again Christian. Sorry, 1:39:55.160 --> 1:39:55.720 what do you call it? 1:39:55.880 --> 1:39:58.680 Mellie mouth millionau? I didn't care for that. 1:39:59.360 --> 1:40:01.800 Oh yeah, I I do not care where talking down 1:40:01.880 --> 1:40:04.840 to the offensive line like that. It's an important position. 1:40:05.120 --> 1:40:08.800 Got to invest in the offensive line, got to you. 1:40:08.840 --> 1:40:11.679 Know, everyone says that you need to support Drake may Well. 1:40:13.240 --> 1:40:17.639 I think that shows support taking two first round picks 1:40:17.760 --> 1:40:21.960 year to year and signing AJ Brown, bringing in Romeo Dobbs. 1:40:22.120 --> 1:40:23.920 I think I think, you know, I'm not going to 1:40:24.000 --> 1:40:26.640 play devil's advocate here for Christian, but I think his 1:40:26.760 --> 1:40:29.879 point is they could have gotten better players that they drafted, 1:40:29.960 --> 1:40:31.400 and that would have been better help. 1:40:31.560 --> 1:40:33.840 I think the offensive line thing though, not to get 1:40:33.840 --> 1:40:36.759 into the whole philosophical thing, but it's it's supply and demand. 1:40:37.240 --> 1:40:39.439 Like once you get into free agency and in the 1:40:39.560 --> 1:40:42.400 veteran market with offensive line, and it's it's hard to 1:40:42.479 --> 1:40:47.240 find franchise left tackles in free agency. Like those guys 1:40:47.280 --> 1:40:49.519 don't get to free agency, right, you know, those guys 1:40:49.840 --> 1:40:51.840 stay on their teams, or every once in a while 1:40:51.920 --> 1:40:54.720 you see a guy get traded, but it's a substantial 1:40:54.800 --> 1:40:58.360 trade in a big price. So I think if you're 1:40:58.400 --> 1:41:01.439 going to build the offensive line for the future in 1:41:01.560 --> 1:41:04.719 long term, that's why a lot of teams draft linemen 1:41:04.920 --> 1:41:06.720 is because you kind of have to draft them, you know, 1:41:06.880 --> 1:41:10.040 like you're not going to get you know, Laromie Tunzel 1:41:10.080 --> 1:41:13.240 I think is maybe the last true like franchise guy 1:41:13.320 --> 1:41:15.360 that moved in a trade that I can think of 1:41:15.479 --> 1:41:16.400 off the top of my head. 1:41:16.760 --> 1:41:18.040 It doesn't happen very anything. 1:41:18.200 --> 1:41:20.760 Drafting Lineman is like eating your vegetables. 1:41:20.880 --> 1:41:23.760 You gotta You don't like it, but you gotta do 1:41:23.840 --> 1:41:24.960 it and it's gonna help you. 1:41:25.040 --> 1:41:27.360 But I don't think he is mad that they drafted Lineman. 1:41:27.439 --> 1:41:29.719 I don't think he agrees with the lineman they set 1:41:30.040 --> 1:41:31.280 but it's not the same. 1:41:31.320 --> 1:41:33.559 Like impact play. 1:41:33.680 --> 1:41:35.040 But who was he supposed to draft? 1:41:35.120 --> 1:41:37.000 Like last year? Lomu was the last one. 1:41:37.600 --> 1:41:41.679 No, No, I'm not defending I'm saying I'm just saying 1:41:41.760 --> 1:41:41.920 like that. 1:41:42.080 --> 1:41:43.400 But that's what his point is. 1:41:43.479 --> 1:41:46.480 He doesn't like the guys they took, not necessarily the position. 1:41:46.720 --> 1:41:47.599 And that's fair enough. 1:41:47.720 --> 1:41:50.559 But maybe you could have made that argument in Campbell's draft, 1:41:50.640 --> 1:41:55.400 like maybe you were a Membu guy or Josh Simmons, Like, if. 1:41:55.280 --> 1:41:56.920 You had to do it over again, how would you 1:41:57.040 --> 1:42:00.360 feel if you had drafted Membo and then Lomo and 1:42:00.720 --> 1:42:03.080 that was your left and right tackle. I don't know, 1:42:03.360 --> 1:42:05.240 but you probably wouldn't have gone to the Super Bowl. 1:42:05.320 --> 1:42:08.639 Last year with Badarian Lowe playing left tackle for seventeen games. 1:42:08.800 --> 1:42:11.479 Right, I dis question is where would you have played 1:42:11.520 --> 1:42:15.519 Membo like last year? Would he had played left instead 1:42:15.560 --> 1:42:17.519 of playing right with I think he would have played right, 1:42:17.800 --> 1:42:19.519 but Morgan Moses was here though. 1:42:19.640 --> 1:42:21.519 No, they're all fair. 1:42:21.600 --> 1:42:27.880 Second I that's that was always the conversation with Membo 1:42:28.080 --> 1:42:29.040 is your draft. 1:42:29.320 --> 1:42:33.559 Ramble was taken fourth overall because they had to draft 1:42:33.640 --> 1:42:36.800 a guy who could play Week one left tackle, and 1:42:36.920 --> 1:42:38.040 that's why they chose him. 1:42:39.760 --> 1:42:42.720 Christian is obviously not a fan of that pick. 1:42:43.680 --> 1:42:43.960 Listen. 1:42:44.360 --> 1:42:46.720 I think that up until the injury, you'd say that 1:42:46.840 --> 1:42:50.080 he had a good season rookie season left tackle, fine, 1:42:51.200 --> 1:42:54.400 A good I said a good season. I didn't say 1:42:54.400 --> 1:42:56.840 that he didn't make the Pro Bowl or anything. 1:42:56.880 --> 1:42:57.519 But he's getting there. 1:42:58.120 --> 1:43:00.600 But do you think he deserves kind of like I 1:43:00.680 --> 1:43:03.120 feel like Will Campbell's the low hanging fruit right now 1:43:03.280 --> 1:43:04.519 to attack the team. 1:43:05.120 --> 1:43:08.200 Yeah, well, I think he has questions coming out, and 1:43:08.760 --> 1:43:11.840 the questions in the playoffs kind of you know, his 1:43:11.920 --> 1:43:14.360 performance in the playoffs brought back those questions, and then 1:43:14.680 --> 1:43:16.360 you know, you got to a certain point last year 1:43:16.400 --> 1:43:18.439 and everybody felt like he's been pretty good I mean 1:43:18.479 --> 1:43:20.240 he had how many sex you give up to Marus Garrett, 1:43:20.520 --> 1:43:23.640 you know, like, I mean he had had Yeah, he 1:43:23.720 --> 1:43:26.200 had some struggles during the season. It wasn't perfect, Devin said, 1:43:26.600 --> 1:43:29.759 passable grade, but the performance in the playoffs and especially 1:43:29.840 --> 1:43:31.679 with the Super Bowl, and that's what we're left. 1:43:31.920 --> 1:43:33.439 The taste we all have in our mouth is from 1:43:33.479 --> 1:43:35.080 that game. So I think a lot of the. 1:43:35.120 --> 1:43:39.400 Narratives come from that super Bowl, whereas ninety nine percent 1:43:39.479 --> 1:43:41.760 of that season before the super Bowl, like a lot 1:43:41.840 --> 1:43:44.080 of that wasn't really questions, like you weren't like Drake's 1:43:44.120 --> 1:43:46.280 the second place MVP guy, but then you come out 1:43:46.320 --> 1:43:48.320 of the Super Bowl and you're like, well, he didn't 1:43:48.320 --> 1:43:49.479 play that great against Seattle. 1:43:49.600 --> 1:43:51.960 So I just feel like the to me, like the 1:43:52.520 --> 1:43:55.560 Campbell criticism from the Super Bowl is so misguided, Like 1:43:56.960 --> 1:43:59.920 I just feel like his his role in that loss 1:44:00.160 --> 1:44:01.800 was on the list, but it wasn't at the top 1:44:01.840 --> 1:44:02.360 of my list. 1:44:02.880 --> 1:44:03.360 I don't think. 1:44:03.439 --> 1:44:05.960 I think they got thoroughly out coached and out played 1:44:06.000 --> 1:44:10.120 in every phase. So the single handedly say Will Campbell 1:44:10.280 --> 1:44:12.200 is like the reason that they lost the Super Bowl, 1:44:12.680 --> 1:44:15.439 I think is short sighted, Like there was a million 1:44:15.520 --> 1:44:17.559 things they could have done differently in that Super Bowl, 1:44:17.600 --> 1:44:20.439 on both sides of the ball, but especially offensively, Like 1:44:20.960 --> 1:44:22.720 no offense to any of them, but like Drake May 1:44:22.760 --> 1:44:24.800 did not play very well in that game either, and 1:44:24.920 --> 1:44:27.320 Josh McDaniels didn't coach very well in that game either, 1:44:27.640 --> 1:44:30.040 you know, Mike McDonald kind of took him to work, 1:44:30.200 --> 1:44:33.200 you know, and so like, I don't know, like some 1:44:33.360 --> 1:44:35.160 of that is obviously on Campbell, that you got to 1:44:35.200 --> 1:44:37.760 execute your blocks and things like that, But if Drake 1:44:37.840 --> 1:44:39.320 May had played at the level that he had been 1:44:39.360 --> 1:44:41.880 playing all year, I don't know if Will Campbell would 1:44:41.880 --> 1:44:44.200 have allowed fourteen pressures or whatever the heck Next Gen 1:44:44.240 --> 1:44:44.519 said it. 1:44:44.600 --> 1:44:46.840 Was, because he's still like in the next Gen page 1:44:46.920 --> 1:44:48.320 is literally like still the top side. 1:44:50.960 --> 1:44:55.519 Don't forget, don't underestimate the help of the ex patriot 1:44:55.600 --> 1:44:57.479 with the conflict of interest that gave them all. 1:44:57.600 --> 1:45:00.920 Right, right, what do you feel about that? Allegedly? 1:45:00.960 --> 1:45:02.920 I wish you didn't kiss him now I don't. 1:45:03.240 --> 1:45:07.000 I'm not convinced it was him. I'm hoping it wasn't. 1:45:07.240 --> 1:45:10.479 I but you know, if it was, I'm not I'm 1:45:10.479 --> 1:45:12.240 not happy with that. Like, what do you think he 1:45:12.320 --> 1:45:12.960 could have done? 1:45:13.479 --> 1:45:15.760 It's just tendencies for Josh McDaniels. 1:45:16.680 --> 1:45:18.920 You know how he how he might attack. Yeah, this 1:45:19.000 --> 1:45:20.800 is the kind of things he likes to do. Yeah. 1:45:20.840 --> 1:45:22.599 If there's one thing that I think he could have done, 1:45:22.640 --> 1:45:24.200 and I don't I don't know if it was Braden, 1:45:24.240 --> 1:45:26.599 I don't think it was. But the way that Seattle 1:45:27.160 --> 1:45:31.880 attacked their protections in particular, felt like they had picked 1:45:31.960 --> 1:45:34.639 up something on tape of like how they the Patriots 1:45:34.760 --> 1:45:38.880 liked to do things from a schematic standpoint. Did somebody 1:45:39.160 --> 1:45:42.160 like nudge them in the direction of like this is 1:45:42.200 --> 1:45:44.240 what they've been doing all year, you know, like that 1:45:44.439 --> 1:45:47.320 that sort of thing. Or is Mike McDonald, who is 1:45:47.360 --> 1:45:50.479 a great coach, just watched tape for ten straight days 1:45:50.520 --> 1:45:53.320 of the Patriots offense and figured it out on his own. 1:45:53.479 --> 1:45:57.920 Yep, David and Bethlehem right sin he's in swaddling clothing 1:45:58.720 --> 1:46:00.679 from my lane from. 1:46:00.520 --> 1:46:04.160 The Major every time that he reads that, I think 1:46:04.240 --> 1:46:04.400 of that. 1:46:04.720 --> 1:46:05.439 This is in July. 1:46:06.840 --> 1:46:10.680 From my lame online searches, it seems that Accus has 1:46:10.800 --> 1:46:14.160 two young aggressive agents, Lukeman Sailor and Vet. 1:46:14.320 --> 1:46:15.160 Reggie Johnson. 1:46:15.800 --> 1:46:19.200 Besides failure to disclose injuries, it seems that he's looking 1:46:19.280 --> 1:46:22.920 for guarantees that other second round players don't get, and 1:46:23.200 --> 1:46:26.720 the agents and agents are unwilling aren't able to tell 1:46:26.800 --> 1:46:30.200 him the facts of life. Is accus living on checks 1:46:30.240 --> 1:46:33.040 he can't cash. What happens if the Patriots insist on 1:46:33.200 --> 1:46:36.479 MRIs and physical exams before signing him? What happens if 1:46:36.520 --> 1:46:39.000 there is no agreement? Does acas just stay out and 1:46:39.120 --> 1:46:39.799 eat donuts? 1:46:41.160 --> 1:46:41.840 I'm not comforting. 1:46:41.920 --> 1:46:42.160 I don't know. 1:46:42.200 --> 1:46:43.840 I'm not comfortable touching that email. 1:46:44.000 --> 1:46:47.160 That could be true. He should be looking for guarantees 1:46:47.240 --> 1:46:49.280 that aren't typical. I don't think that's the case. 1:46:49.400 --> 1:46:50.799 I have no idea if that's. 1:46:50.680 --> 1:46:54.000 Right or wrong, but it would be surprising to me 1:46:54.080 --> 1:46:57.320 based on like we talked about already, just his mindset 1:46:57.600 --> 1:47:00.360 on the raft night, how fired up he was, wed 1:47:00.439 --> 1:47:01.240 else was to see it? 1:47:01.320 --> 1:47:01.360 You. 1:47:01.680 --> 1:47:02.000 I don't know. 1:47:02.240 --> 1:47:04.519 Yeah, he seems to me like the type of guy 1:47:04.560 --> 1:47:07.200 that would tell his agent screw that I got to 1:47:07.240 --> 1:47:07.840 get over there. 1:47:08.040 --> 1:47:10.080 I don't think this has anything to do with agents. 1:47:10.200 --> 1:47:12.280 Yeah, yeah, I don't matter, I really don't. 1:47:12.760 --> 1:47:15.479 That's my question is is this something that is still 1:47:15.960 --> 1:47:19.880 an issue or is this all past things that happened 1:47:19.920 --> 1:47:21.920 and we're still trying to figure out how to make 1:47:22.000 --> 1:47:24.080 those things right? Is he I mean he's posting that 1:47:24.160 --> 1:47:25.960 he's working out, so is he healthy? 1:47:26.080 --> 1:47:26.760 Is he ready to go? 1:47:27.320 --> 1:47:29.519 Is there a lingering effect from an injury that they 1:47:29.600 --> 1:47:32.040 want protection on that you know that he's they're not 1:47:32.120 --> 1:47:32.800 willing to give him. 1:47:32.920 --> 1:47:37.240 And why is he post like you're posting to give 1:47:37.280 --> 1:47:38.519 a perception about yourself. 1:47:39.080 --> 1:47:42.599 It's all intentional for I'll never find I'm fine. 1:47:42.680 --> 1:47:45.000 He's posting stuff to say I'm fine. I think that 1:47:45.080 --> 1:47:46.800 they think he might not be, and they're trying to 1:47:46.840 --> 1:47:47.800 protect himselfs. 1:47:47.479 --> 1:47:49.439 I mean of a guy who's never played a game 1:47:49.520 --> 1:47:51.519 for the Patriots. Has there been a more roller coaster 1:47:51.720 --> 1:47:52.360 than this guy? 1:47:52.520 --> 1:47:55.479 Like I Benjamin Watson, that's how far back I off to, 1:47:55.680 --> 1:47:58.720 Like think, you asked me this like a couple of 1:47:58.800 --> 1:48:00.519 days ago, do you remember any thing like this? And 1:48:01.280 --> 1:48:04.679 my answer was, like since eleven when the new CBA 1:48:04.800 --> 1:48:07.160 came in and all these things became slotted, No, twenty 1:48:07.200 --> 1:48:09.320 two years. I can't think of any time that it 1:48:09.400 --> 1:48:10.599 was like this since twenty eleven. 1:48:10.680 --> 1:48:12.320 So the only other one that I can think of 1:48:12.520 --> 1:48:15.040 league wide now, and of course now I'm banking on 1:48:15.160 --> 1:48:19.400 his name, the Nikobe Dean, the Georgia linebacker. He had 1:48:19.640 --> 1:48:23.759 a similar situation because million injuries. He had a million injuries, 1:48:24.200 --> 1:48:26.960 some of them potentially chronic, like you know that sort 1:48:27.000 --> 1:48:29.559 of thing fell in the draft because of it, took 1:48:29.600 --> 1:48:32.920 a while to sign them, but then they eventually, you know, 1:48:33.000 --> 1:48:36.479 they signed them and everything kind of it's pretty good player, right, 1:48:36.600 --> 1:48:40.800 But I that was maybe a good similar situation based 1:48:40.920 --> 1:48:42.720 just because of the physical element of it. 1:48:42.920 --> 1:48:44.840 Well, that's what scares me is just that's the like 1:48:45.080 --> 1:48:46.960 thing I don't want is this some like all of 1:48:47.000 --> 1:48:50.280 a sudden you realize that this guy's got a long 1:48:50.439 --> 1:48:53.360 term knee problem, Like this is your get your you put. 1:48:53.439 --> 1:48:55.400 You spent a second round pick on a guy and 1:48:55.560 --> 1:48:57.120 it's gonna be damaged goods like that. 1:48:57.360 --> 1:48:58.360 That's that's that's my. 1:48:58.520 --> 1:48:59.560 Fear because. 1:49:00.720 --> 1:49:04.519 Of the contract situation, the fact that they haven't signed 1:49:04.600 --> 1:49:07.439 him to a contract. My fear is is that they 1:49:07.479 --> 1:49:09.439 are worried that this issue is product. 1:49:09.520 --> 1:49:12.640 I'm worried that they're trying to protect themselves all or 1:49:12.680 --> 1:49:14.120 maybe they're trying to teach them a lesson. 1:49:15.439 --> 1:49:18.880 You know, we don't like this whole thing of withholding 1:49:19.200 --> 1:49:22.400 and pulling in. We're gonna make you wait now, because 1:49:22.760 --> 1:49:23.120 you know, but. 1:49:23.200 --> 1:49:24.920 Does that at a certain point you're just kind of 1:49:25.000 --> 1:49:31.000 only hurting yourself to learn, especially as a rookie. 1:49:30.800 --> 1:49:33.519 And you want to give I don't know how success. 1:49:34.640 --> 1:49:37.080 All I know is that very able, seem very annoyed. 1:49:37.960 --> 1:49:38.400 Yeah, you know. 1:49:40.520 --> 1:49:45.400 Christian Virginia writes in about Christian in La, what an 1:49:45.400 --> 1:49:47.720 absolute breath of fresh air it was to have a 1:49:47.840 --> 1:49:51.840 Christian free episode last Tuesday. Honestly, the more we hear 1:49:51.920 --> 1:49:54.120 from Christian in La, the more convinced I am that 1:49:54.200 --> 1:49:57.040 the guy is a complete fraud. He doesn't have wealth. 1:49:57.360 --> 1:50:00.240 He clearly just works for someone else who does. Over 1:50:00.320 --> 1:50:02.840 in the UK, we have a perfect term for guys 1:50:02.960 --> 1:50:06.240 like him, an eleven rife eleven arrife. 1:50:06.680 --> 1:50:07.400 You know the type. 1:50:07.479 --> 1:50:10.400 You tell him you went on holiday to tenarife and 1:50:10.520 --> 1:50:15.120 he's instantly been to eleven arrife. Case in point, his 1:50:15.280 --> 1:50:18.960 desperate need to one up Alex's key Fob's story with 1:50:19.120 --> 1:50:24.400 that clearly fabricated, fabricated Tesla tale, but he slipped up 1:50:24.800 --> 1:50:28.320 and completely gave himself away. First off, Tesla doors have 1:50:28.439 --> 1:50:31.960 built in sensors specifically designed to stop them from swinging 1:50:32.040 --> 1:50:35.960 open into other objects. Plus there is literally a setting 1:50:36.080 --> 1:50:38.880 to control how they opened when you approach the vehicle, 1:50:39.360 --> 1:50:42.200 he'd know that if it was actually his car, and 1:50:42.320 --> 1:50:45.639 has claimed that a credit card size fob is easily lost. 1:50:46.000 --> 1:50:47.759 Has the man never heard of a wallet? 1:50:49.320 --> 1:50:53.839 Christian Virginia Christians being accused of being a fake Tesla owners, 1:50:54.160 --> 1:50:54.920 fake rich guy. 1:50:56.120 --> 1:50:58.519 In general, Yeah, I just like how the call continued 1:50:58.560 --> 1:51:01.360 to move. First it was there too best defensive players. 1:51:01.720 --> 1:51:04.080 Then I called him out and said who were they? 1:51:04.600 --> 1:51:07.639 And then he said, well, they also lost Kenneth Kenneth Walker, 1:51:07.680 --> 1:51:09.360 And I was like, I thought we were talking about 1:51:09.400 --> 1:51:12.000 the defense. And that's why whenever he calls in, I 1:51:12.160 --> 1:51:13.760 just think it's a bit like I don't think that 1:51:13.840 --> 1:51:16.560 he's being serious at all. I think that it is 1:51:16.640 --> 1:51:19.080 all an art. It's a performative. 1:51:19.720 --> 1:51:22.400 I think the part about the draft picks, I think 1:51:22.439 --> 1:51:25.559 he really does believe that part. Yeah, you know he's 1:51:25.600 --> 1:51:26.400 not the only one. 1:51:26.560 --> 1:51:29.040 No, maybe, but I just the way he plays it up. 1:51:29.560 --> 1:51:34.840 Gandolf in the Shire rights in, he's made he's made 1:51:34.920 --> 1:51:36.240 what listening to us a hobbit? 1:51:36.520 --> 1:51:42.160 Oh? I should you did that good hobbit question for Paulie. 1:51:43.120 --> 1:51:44.920 You said that the Patriots wouldn't have made it to 1:51:44.960 --> 1:51:47.960 the Super Bowl without selecting Will Campbell in last year's draft. 1:51:48.040 --> 1:51:48.600 Did you say that? 1:51:49.760 --> 1:51:51.840 Not to that extent, but I think I think I 1:51:51.920 --> 1:51:53.920 said you could make an argument that they wouldn't have 1:51:54.000 --> 1:51:56.920 made the super Bowl with Vederian Lowe playing seventeen games 1:51:56.960 --> 1:51:57.559 at left tackle. 1:51:57.640 --> 1:51:58.559 I think that's what I said. 1:51:58.560 --> 1:52:01.120 Okay, correct me if if I'm wrong. But last year, 1:52:01.160 --> 1:52:03.880 when injuries hit the offensive line, you stated you didn't 1:52:03.920 --> 1:52:06.320 see much difference between the starters and the backups. 1:52:06.360 --> 1:52:08.559 I didn't see much difference between Vaderian Lowe and Will. 1:52:08.479 --> 1:52:10.280 Campbell sample size. 1:52:10.600 --> 1:52:12.560 Yeah, but he did play well, Darian. I thought he 1:52:12.640 --> 1:52:14.679 played well in three of the four games that he played, 1:52:14.720 --> 1:52:15.240 the last. 1:52:15.120 --> 1:52:17.799 One specifically slippage all games. 1:52:18.520 --> 1:52:20.760 Would you say seventeen games? Yep? Yeah. 1:52:21.200 --> 1:52:23.639 Do you believe a healthy low would have been better 1:52:23.720 --> 1:52:26.920 than a seventy percent healthy Will Campbell just an estimate 1:52:27.000 --> 1:52:29.439 of his health in the playoffs and thus would they 1:52:29.479 --> 1:52:30.800 have made it to the Super Bowl? 1:52:31.240 --> 1:52:31.960 Yes, I do. 1:52:32.240 --> 1:52:34.599 I think that at that point he's not healthy. 1:52:35.320 --> 1:52:38.479 Well, I'm only going I personally don't know how much 1:52:38.560 --> 1:52:40.200 that had to do with health, but I'm just going 1:52:40.280 --> 1:52:44.080 to take everybody at face value. Right, Campbell was fine 1:52:44.160 --> 1:52:46.720 until he got hurt. That's what everybody tells me, right, 1:52:47.320 --> 1:52:49.640 and we're going to find out, and coaches are eight 1:52:49.800 --> 1:52:51.040 just to find out too. That's why he took a 1:52:51.120 --> 1:52:55.519 left tackle in first round. But we'll find out. 1:52:55.800 --> 1:52:58.479 I do think that that is another fair second guess 1:52:58.800 --> 1:53:01.400 a little bit though, what did it? Would they have 1:53:01.479 --> 1:53:05.080 been better off? After the Chargers game saying to Will Campbell, you're. 1:53:04.960 --> 1:53:06.800 Not healthy, You're done, You're done for the season. 1:53:06.920 --> 1:53:10.040 Right, Yeah, we're putting we're gonna ride it out with Vederian. 1:53:10.320 --> 1:53:13.360 Because because wasn't there like rumors that they put him 1:53:13.400 --> 1:53:18.439 on I r uh save him from himself, to keep 1:53:18.520 --> 1:53:19.920 him from pushing to keep playing. 1:53:20.120 --> 1:53:22.639 Yeah, so I who knows. 1:53:24.080 --> 1:53:26.080 No, you're right that that was a story that was 1:53:26.160 --> 1:53:30.400 shaking my head of the ridiculousness of that was a story. 1:53:30.520 --> 1:53:32.599 And then four weeks later he when he wasn't playing 1:53:32.640 --> 1:53:36.680 well it was because he was healthy. Well, I don't know. 1:53:37.360 --> 1:53:40.519 It's like it's a funny little trick that the media 1:53:41.280 --> 1:53:43.320 pulls on us. You never pin him down. 1:53:44.160 --> 1:53:44.280 Uh? 1:53:44.600 --> 1:53:47.600 Nick from New York City? Is there any chance Demetrius 1:53:47.680 --> 1:53:50.880 Crown over play some tight end for more than trick plays? 1:53:50.920 --> 1:53:52.160 Assuming he makes the team. 1:53:52.560 --> 1:53:55.800 Is this something they'd even consider, Well, I guess it. 1:53:56.160 --> 1:54:01.640 There is going sixth offensive linemen considered a trick play Fred? No, No, 1:54:02.400 --> 1:54:04.519 then I would say so, then I would say yes. 1:54:04.640 --> 1:54:05.439 Would he be the guy? 1:54:05.600 --> 1:54:06.000 Do you think? 1:54:07.320 --> 1:54:07.680 I don't know? 1:54:07.840 --> 1:54:08.439 He did it? 1:54:08.800 --> 1:54:10.840 He was a tight end, so I think that's where 1:54:10.920 --> 1:54:15.040 that comes from high school. But I think it's a 1:54:15.320 --> 1:54:17.840 open competition for that role. I think Lomu probably would 1:54:17.840 --> 1:54:18.760 be the first one up. 1:54:18.960 --> 1:54:21.519 To get You think it would be him and Marcus 1:54:21.560 --> 1:54:23.200 Briant competing for a roster spot. 1:54:23.479 --> 1:54:26.280 Yes, me too, But I think Lomu would probably be 1:54:26.360 --> 1:54:29.240 the sixth offensive lineman first, because you want to get 1:54:29.280 --> 1:54:31.560 Lomu reps and into games and things like that. 1:54:32.200 --> 1:54:35.720 But maybe the tackle is going to catch a touchdown 1:54:35.760 --> 1:54:36.040 this year. 1:54:36.240 --> 1:54:38.840 How about we go seven offensive linemen and we put 1:54:38.920 --> 1:54:45.520 ground over and lot never gonna We're gonna do the push. 1:54:45.400 --> 1:54:49.080 Push, seven offensive lineman, three fullbacks. I love it. We 1:54:49.240 --> 1:54:51.960 slipped the handle out to the flat boom. How about. 1:54:53.880 --> 1:54:54.760 The Mighty Ducks. 1:54:56.920 --> 1:55:01.320 Snap brake, run play done, Let's go, Let's go, Let's go. 1:55:01.600 --> 1:55:07.040 Who says no, Yeah, Well, we called we call it 1:55:07.120 --> 1:55:09.160 the elephant to the lineman lineup. 1:55:09.600 --> 1:55:10.920 For a whole season in twenty twenty. 1:55:11.000 --> 1:55:13.880 I want to see in the backfield, in the batfield 1:55:14.240 --> 1:55:15.560 and everyone just goes forward. 1:55:16.120 --> 1:55:18.960 Wisconsin. I think it's Wisconsin. We call it the Convoy. 1:55:19.280 --> 1:55:22.080 They used to have a package called the Elephant Package, 1:55:22.760 --> 1:55:26.360 and I think it was seven offensive lineman. But it 1:55:26.520 --> 1:55:31.520 was like seven offensive lineman, the quarterback obviously in like 1:55:31.600 --> 1:55:33.920 a full house backfield, like it was just like it 1:55:34.040 --> 1:55:37.800 was a fourth and one goal line formation. And I 1:55:37.880 --> 1:55:39.960 think they I think it was seven offensive linemen. 1:55:40.480 --> 1:55:41.240 I'm open to it. 1:55:42.920 --> 1:55:47.800 Let's go, let's go go. We'll finish the show with 1:55:47.880 --> 1:55:52.520 Anthony's email. Hearing fred say it's Thursday, followed by Paul's 1:55:52.560 --> 1:55:55.680 quick we gotta hurry brought me so much joy because 1:55:55.720 --> 1:55:58.680 that means we're close. Love when you guys do the 1:55:58.760 --> 1:56:01.280 picks and talk about the spread and how minus two 1:56:01.320 --> 1:56:03.800 and a ha is really plus one and a hay 1:56:03.920 --> 1:56:04.919 because they're giving. 1:56:04.720 --> 1:56:08.840 Three points to the home team. Tough math man. 1:56:08.920 --> 1:56:13.760 All right, well listen, what do the sharps know? This 1:56:13.920 --> 1:56:15.720 isn't this is not it for the weekend. 1:56:16.400 --> 1:56:18.560 Just getting started, Freddy, just getting started. 1:56:18.760 --> 1:56:22.760 Saturday, nine five am Eastern time. We will be live 1:56:22.920 --> 1:56:26.800 at practice, the first public practice, the fans will be there. 1:56:26.880 --> 1:56:29.320 The weather's going to be great, you're gonna get the 1:56:29.400 --> 1:56:32.680 smell of the grass again. It's gonna be awesome. So 1:56:32.880 --> 1:56:36.160 be with us at nine while we watch practice with 1:56:36.280 --> 1:56:38.960 you and we will see you then. 1:56:41.640 --> 1:56:43.760 Hey, this is Deuce. 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