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Speaker 4: Sacked again Koalis Campbell slammed the ground by Buddha Baker

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Speaker 6: And Darren Urban, how about this Urban kid?

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Speaker 1: You know, as much as I despised Shakespeare in college

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Speaker 1: presented by Emergency Air. Miracle in the Desert that is

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Speaker 1: the title of tonight's episode. As we hit the rewind button,

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Speaker 1: we like to say, Cardinals folktales where you can't spell

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Speaker 1: the word history without the word story. Paul calvic Here,

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Speaker 1: Darren Urban was there covered the game back in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and three. This is the rare game, Darren, where

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Speaker 1: it was best remembered for what both teams did not get.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings did not get a playoff Berth, the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in

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Speaker 1: In fact, you tell us since you where were you?

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Speaker 1: From the final week of the regular season two thousand

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Speaker 1: to Miracle in the Desert. It's the final week of

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Speaker 10: An unbelievable turn of events. Not here at lambeau Field,

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Speaker 11: Would thought we won Super Bowl. I mean, it was

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Speaker 6: The five things are going home.

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Speaker 8: For the new year.

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Speaker 2: You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that.

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Speaker 1: Not one of the Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now.

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Speaker 10: The Packers not only make the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: It was that if the sun fell out of the sky.

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Speaker 1: That's I'm that two teams played one game that stop

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Speaker 4: I think even the fans are like, now, let's just

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Speaker 11: There was something to play for there. They're you know,

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Speaker 7: He got flushed out to the right.

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Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where

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Speaker 1: we go in depth into Cardinals history all time, anecdotes,

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Speaker 1: when little known Nate Poole got the key to a city,

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Speaker 1: while his own fan base lamented what it did not get.

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Speaker 1: One of the great calls, one of the great thrill

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Speaker 1: In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season.

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Speaker 12: So I gotta win on all that.

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Speaker 10: So you asking me to make up answer to something

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Speaker 6: I'm not that stupid. Yeah, please, somebody tell you something

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Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith,

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Speaker 4: And you endure that long of a season and you're

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Speaker 4: The one thing is, Okay, you got a chance to

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Speaker 1: That's Cardinals could be Josh McCown, the third round pick

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Speaker 4: It's the Cardinals and Vikings from Tempe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium,

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Speaker 1: Then, just over two minutes later, a forty six yard

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Speaker 10: Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember the only way the

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Speaker 1: That's the radio call at Lambell, Wayne Lairvie and Larry

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Speaker 14: Luckily, that day, I wasn't demolition, I was recovery. And

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Speaker 10: To play, the Arizona Cardinals trying an onside kick and

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Speaker 6: Then maybe they don't have a miracle.

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Speaker 10: Keep talking about it. You may be jinxing us into

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Speaker 6: Maybe that miracle can happen.

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Speaker 2: You get to that onside kick, and now all of

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Speaker 11: And as we know, it did.

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Speaker 1: That's long time voice of the Vikings Paul Allen. More

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Speaker 10: I meanwhile out in the desert in Arizona, getting a

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Speaker 1: There is definitely everyone is out of their seats in

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Speaker 11: Emmett has a presence of mind to go, Josh, get up,

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Speaker 4: The clock running down under fifteen seconds left, it's fourth

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Speaker 10: It's gonna come down to this.

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Speaker 4: They gotta throw it into the end zone.

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Speaker 12: This is it.

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Speaker 1: Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from the twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging in the balance

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Speaker 1: once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen.

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Speaker 2: There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step

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Speaker 1: Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you?

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Speaker 10: And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the

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Speaker 4: And here we go eight seconds, seven six five four,

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Speaker 6: Just so happened.

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Speaker 12: He got flushed, He got flushed out to the right.

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Speaker 4: Kiggs are going home for the new year.

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Speaker 12: Josh Man, you know the whole time he's running, he's rolling,

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Speaker 10: He did it.

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Speaker 11: I felt like it was just there was a connection

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Speaker 9: But Cardinals winning on the final play.

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Speaker 1: Even more to Nate Poole, the guy who had been

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Speaker 1: who might have gone number one overall the Cardinals were

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Speaker 1: in that position, but they weren't. And the changes even

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Speaker 1: extended to the rule book years later. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: that when we come back. And don't forget Nate Pool

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Speaker 1: was not just a celebrity in Arizona. He was the

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Speaker 1: toast of the town in Green Bay. And we'll relive

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Speaker 1: all that when we come back to this very special

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Speaker 1: Cardinals folk Tales edition of The Big Red Rage Miracle

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Speaker 1: in the Desert presented by Emergency Air. It's our special

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Volktales edition of The Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 1: Emergency Here this is where we go into Cardinals history,

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Speaker 1: go into the archives. Can't spell the word history without

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Speaker 1: the word story, and we're talking about the final game

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Speaker 1: of the two thousand and three season. My name is

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Speaker 1: Paul calvi Seen. We started by saying, remember that one time,

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Speaker 1: that one game played by two teams in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three, that stop time in three different NFL cities.

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Speaker 1: Remember Nate Poole, Cardinals receiver, and was the in or

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Speaker 1: out of bounds? We pose that question, well, he was

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Speaker 1: most definitely inbounds, and the Vikings were most definitely out

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs, and the Cardinals were out of the

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Speaker 1: top pick in the draft. We'll get to that, but

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Speaker 1: remember when it comes to the Vikings, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a team that not only started six to zero and

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Speaker 1: was on the verge of the playoffs, but that season,

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Speaker 1: the four worst teams in the league were the Giants,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Chargers, and the Cardinals. Each team finished

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Speaker 1: four and twelve. Each one of those teams beat the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: so you can imagine the angst on the Minnesota side.

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Speaker 1: In fact, their radio announcer, the voice of the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: Paul Allen, became a meme before there even were memes

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Speaker 1: in social media, and that's where we rejoined this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in the Desert, and former Cardinals

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Speaker 1: quarterback Josh McCown two years later had empathy for the Vikings.

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Speaker 11: Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings because

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Speaker 11: they were right there on the cusp, and to lose

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Speaker 11: that way, man, that's bitter.

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Speaker 1: Nate Poole's game win, playoff busting, last second fourth down

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Speaker 1: touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture

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Speaker 1: looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were

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Speaker 1: left in a state of utter disbelief.

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Speaker 2: People were just staring longingly on the team bust to

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Speaker 2: the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were

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Speaker 2: just downtrodden. And you just don't lose like that. Nobody

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Speaker 2: loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not ang

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Speaker 2: Kwam Bolden. So I mean, now as we connect the dots,

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Speaker 2: you know, of the entire thing over twenty years, it

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Speaker 2: hits me so vividly because of how emotional it was

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Speaker 2: at that moment.

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Speaker 4: The season's on the line, two receivers left and right.

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Speaker 6: McCown takes a snap, he steps.

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Speaker 9: Up, He's all by himself, fires into the end zone,

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Speaker 9: dot dots down. No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the

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Speaker 9: Vikings out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs, hated that call.

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Speaker 2: He didn't let me know, but he let others know.

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Speaker 2: Some vice presidents here, so you know, I had some

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Speaker 2: conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 2: you don't script moments like that, and that's what came out.

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Speaker 2: So I had to deal with that very young.

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Speaker 4: In my care I understand where Paul's coming from. You

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Speaker 4: get invested in the team. It's your team, and I

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Speaker 4: thought Paul handled it perfectly. Some people might say, uh,

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Speaker 4: it's not professional, but that's how the fans feeling.

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Speaker 11: No, are you kidding?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: That was Paul's reaction.

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Speaker 2: One thing I remember about the call is I looked

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Speaker 2: to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers

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Speaker 2: coach at that time, heat Bursage. He could hear me

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Speaker 2: through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, and then

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Speaker 2: I came down. The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out

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Speaker 2: of the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: The way he looked at me It was not anger

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Speaker 2: at me. It was one of two things. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe what just happened. Oh my god, that

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Speaker 2: check that I was going to get for a playoff bonus,

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Speaker 2: it just went up into the tenpiece.

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Speaker 1: Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship.

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Speaker 1: Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter

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Speaker 1: ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio network,

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Speaker 1: and here we go.

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Speaker 10: This is if the season for the Packers. On the

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Speaker 10: line into the end zone, the count.

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Speaker 9: Pack Hey go.

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Speaker 1: Out cutting down. It is a cutting down on Packers

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Speaker 1: by label the complete bedlook from Wayne Larity and Larry

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Speaker 1: McCarron reacting to a game they're not even calling, just

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Speaker 1: watching from two thousand miles away. That is the biggest.

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Speaker 10: Miracle on the Packers deciding any reps. The Packers literally

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Speaker 10: finally realizes any rep on a final playoff the regular

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Speaker 10: season for the Fightkings.

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Speaker 9: They lose eighteen to seventeen.

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Speaker 10: The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're gonna be

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Speaker 10: host of the game.

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Speaker 1: True far from The Packers would host the Seahawks at

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Speaker 1: Lambeau to open the playoffs. Later, Dave McGinnis shared with

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Speaker 1: the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM Mark

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Speaker 1: Hadley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping king

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Speaker 1: here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee,

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Speaker 1: speaking of coach mac. Different emotions, a different reality started

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Speaker 1: to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet,

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Speaker 1: almost somber.

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Speaker 15: For all that we've been through, we never quit on

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Speaker 15: each other. It was a constant, constant reminder of what

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Speaker 15: character I've got in this room.

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Speaker 1: I've never been afraid to tell you that I love you.

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Speaker 11: It was somber, and it's very sobering. You're just like, man,

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Speaker 11: back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And

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Speaker 11: he was genuine with his words, and you know, and

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Speaker 11: how I cared about guys, and so I think he

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Speaker 11: understood in that moment that that was probably, you know,

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Speaker 11: the last time or one of the last times he

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Speaker 11: was going to address us as a group.

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Speaker 16: I've never been afraid to open myself to you because

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Speaker 16: you've got my heart. You've got my heart.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 11: It's a roller coaster really, because you were just as

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Speaker 11: high as it gets, you know, for fifteen twenty minutes,

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Speaker 11: they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then you know,

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Speaker 11: the business sets in.

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Speaker 16: When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught,

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Speaker 16: what did I tell you last night? I cut this

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Speaker 16: man four times. I cut him four times, and every

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Speaker 16: time I did, he stood up in my office and

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Speaker 16: hugged me and said, Mike, if you need me, I'll

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Speaker 16: be back because you're the only man I want to

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Speaker 16: play for.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way I know that all of you

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Speaker 1: feel right now.

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Speaker 12: What was real motion on It was like you know,

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Speaker 12: your last family hug. You know, and you know, and

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Speaker 12: it hurt because we know, you know, he's a players

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Speaker 12: coach and he loved the players. He want the players

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Speaker 12: to do do you know, to excel, to be really great?

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Speaker 6: You know what I feel for you.

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Speaker 9: You know what I feel for you.

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Speaker 5: This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not

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Speaker 5: only love each other, but believe, believe, believe, you.

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Speaker 12: Know, most of us felt like we let Dave down

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Speaker 12: because you know, we didn't come up on the winning

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Speaker 12: side of a lot of these games to keep him around.

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Speaker 11: I'll never ever give up on you.

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Speaker 2: I love you. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: On the very next day, with a foreign twell season

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Speaker 1: in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired.

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Speaker 1: Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse

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Speaker 1: after that six and oh start. As for the Packers,

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Speaker 1: the party was just starting and Nate Poole's celebrity was growing.

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Speaker 10: Nathan Pull of all people hop about that Nathan Pull

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Speaker 10: may become a household name in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: It was an amazing play. But you know, like I

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Speaker 2: say about Nathan and I'm not being disparaging here, but

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Speaker 2: that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of

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Speaker 2: course the next week he was given a key to

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Speaker 2: the city of Green Bay and he got to go

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Speaker 2: to their playoff game, and.

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Speaker 1: That is accurate. Nate Poole, who going into the season

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Speaker 1: finale had eight catches all season and no touchdowns, was

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Speaker 1: now Packers royalty, to the point where he got a

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Speaker 1: call from the mayor of Green Bay.

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Speaker 12: So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 12: here we go. Stop calling my phone because I'm thinking

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Speaker 12: it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that

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Speaker 12: player's gonna call me back and say, man, dude, what

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Speaker 12: are you doing.

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Speaker 2: Then I got a call right back.

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Speaker 12: It was same number, and I'm like, okay, hey, how

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Speaker 12: you doing this in April?

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Speaker 2: And he was like, Hey, Nate, no, this is not

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Speaker 2: a joke.

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Speaker 12: This is Mayor Schmidt. I love to get you out

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Speaker 12: in a speed talking I love to get you out

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Speaker 12: to one of the games.

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Speaker 6: I said, Oh no, I would love to come out.

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Speaker 1: And that's not the only call he got that week.

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Speaker 1: On the Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash,

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Speaker 1: a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too.

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Speaker 4: Dave, Mary, Joe, Mary, Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead, Joe.

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Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks a lot. I was just calling to

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Speaker 13: wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay and to

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Speaker 13: give him a huge thank you. Since the Vikings started

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Speaker 13: off six and oh this year, I've been taking a

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Speaker 13: lot of grief or getting a lot of grief from

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Speaker 13: my friends who are Viking fans, and I would roll

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Speaker 13: my eyes and just say, oh, you know, won't you

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Speaker 13: ever learn? The Vikings will find some way to implode

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Speaker 13: again this year and sweet Revenge. It has been a

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Speaker 13: wonderful couple of days and I just want to offer

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Speaker 13: a great, big thank you, Hey.

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Speaker 4: Mary Joe. How about taking date out to dinner when

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Speaker 4: he gets up there.

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Speaker 13: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to

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Speaker 13: go out in green Bay if that is his desire.

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Speaker 13: He will have a lot of people who will take

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Speaker 13: good care of him.

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Speaker 1: Nate Poole lapped all the way to Green Bay, an

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Speaker 1: all expense paid trip in January on the tax Beyer's

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Speaker 1: tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a grand

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Speaker 1: Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other end

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Speaker 1: of that touchdown pass QB. Josh McCown.

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Speaker 11: You know, they fly Nate up to Green Bay and

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Speaker 11: they give him a Kidah City or whatever they did,

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Speaker 11: and they're sending us. We were getting Christmas cards from

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Speaker 11: Green Bay fans that it was their family Christmas card,

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Speaker 11: and you know it was you know, scratched out and

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Speaker 11: Merry Christmas and thank you for beating the vikings, Go

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Speaker 11: Pat go, and loads of Christmas cards mailed to the

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Speaker 11: house of the Sargento family sent. The best cheese basket

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Speaker 11: you've ever seen in your life was.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and three. But even to this day, when

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Speaker 1: he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for both

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Speaker 1: school Nation and America's dairy Land walking.

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Speaker 11: Through an airport or whatever, and there will be, you know,

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Speaker 11: a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you know you

660
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Speaker 11: owe me, you know type of thing. Or it'll be

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Speaker 11: a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you for getting

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Speaker 11: us in the playoffs that year, you know, we owe you.

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Speaker 8: I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game,

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Speaker 8: and I did not like Natepoole because I thought I

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Speaker 8: had a chance to be the number one pick, and

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Speaker 8: I used to always mess with Nate.

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Speaker 1: That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald not only a former Vikings

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Speaker 1: ball boy and their number one fan at the time,

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Speaker 1: but fitz might have been the number one pick overall

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Speaker 1: in the NFL draft.

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Speaker 12: Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he

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Speaker 12: would have been the.

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Speaker 17: Number one overall pick. We're talking in the receiver room

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Speaker 17: before the meeting about being him being the number one

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Speaker 17: one pick. You know, as I think back to what

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Speaker 17: his side of bonus was, how he didn't do too

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Speaker 17: bad at the number three pick.

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Speaker 11: People said, well, y'all, you know you cost him the

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Speaker 11: number one pick.

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Speaker 4: And I go back and go.

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Speaker 11: You know, I don't think coach Green would have I

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Speaker 11: think he would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry,

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Speaker 11: and uh it turned out really good for Larry and

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Speaker 11: and and ultimately for the Arizona Cardinals too. He helped

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Speaker 11: lead that franchise. Uh, you know, through a lot of

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Speaker 11: things to become a you know, a competitive franchise and

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Speaker 11: you know, to really what they are today.

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Speaker 4: Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what

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Speaker 4: a way to win a game, but also, oh, my goodness,

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Speaker 4: there goes the quarterback of the future. There goes he lied.

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Speaker 10: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick,

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Speaker 1: which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll

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Speaker 1: never know who knew head coach Denny Green would have

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Speaker 1: picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says

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Speaker 1: at number one he still would have been the Cardinals selection.

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Speaker 8: Then he said, I would have been. That's what he

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Speaker 8: told me. He told me I would have been. But

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Speaker 8: you know what, it all works its way out. I

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Speaker 8: was able to still get here and play for him.

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Speaker 8: I know we didn't have the success I'd love to

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Speaker 8: have for him. You know, he gave me my first

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Speaker 8: two jobs I ever had as a ball boys and

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Speaker 8: then as a professional athlete until I owe him a

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Speaker 8: huge debt of gratitude, and I'm just so very thankful for,

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Speaker 8: you know, the doors he opened for me and my family.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Cardinals, they pull, the Cardinals win the game.

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Speaker 12: I brong my heart head to practice in the games

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Speaker 12: every day, and I knew, you know, that's what it

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Speaker 12: was about as growing up as a youngster. That would

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Speaker 12: was about, you know, bringing your hard head and working

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Speaker 12: out and just pushing to make the team.

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Speaker 4: You know, coaches say, run every route as if it's

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Speaker 4: your last one. Nate Pool really did it. But it

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Speaker 4: was like comical, like he went so hard. So it's

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Speaker 4: pretty cool to see a guy that worked that hard

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Speaker 4: have one of the biggest plays of the season, not

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Speaker 4: just for the Cardinals, but for the entire league.

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Speaker 12: I got to tell people, hey, you can only do

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Speaker 12: it one play at a time.

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Speaker 1: I got you on that play, and needless to say,

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Speaker 1: it's the play in Nate Poole's career, one of the

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Speaker 1: most dramatic and consequential plays in NFL history.

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Speaker 9: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 11: And Nate Pull's a good person and he's a great

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Speaker 11: person to be around. And you look back at that

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Speaker 11: and that's a special moment for me in my career

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Speaker 11: as well. So but it couldn't happen to a better

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Speaker 11: guy Nate's could dude?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Who says good dudes finished last?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 1: In fact, as Dave McGinnis said back then with a

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Speaker 1: smile to the media, quote, there were two receivers on

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Speaker 1: the field from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss,

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Speaker 1: we had Nathan Poole. So there you have it. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Folktales Miracle in the Desert, presented by seventy two Soul

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Speaker 1: for producer Jim Mamhundro. I'm Paul Calvic and that's the

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Speaker 1: story of how an unknown receiver won that day, bought

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame receiver was on his way.

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Speaker 4: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history

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Speaker 4: and one of the greatest receivers of all time.

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Speaker 1: With the third choice in the two thousand and four

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 4: Wide receiver University of Firstcraft.

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Speaker 1: That was the red seat Cardinals fans at the official

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Speaker 1: draft party two thousand and four, welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to

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Speaker 1: the Valley White, a departure from the climate a few

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Speaker 1: months earlier, when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against

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Speaker 1: the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out

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Speaker 1: on the number one pick overall, insensibly a franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 1: which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick.

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Speaker 1: But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A

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Speaker 1: few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated,

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Speaker 1: and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole,

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Speaker 1: who only had one foot down in the end zone

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Speaker 1: on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated

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Speaker 1: the Vikings. When we come back, Darren urban, would the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it

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Speaker 1: still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when

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Speaker 1: we come back to this very special Cardinals Folk Tales

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Speaker 1: edition of The Big Red Rage. Miracle in the Desert

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Speaker 1: presented by Emergency Air. And we're wrapping up this very

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Speaker 1: special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of The Big Red Rage

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Speaker 1: present by Emergency Here Paul Kelvicy joined by Darren Irvan

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Speaker 1: Darren Irvan covered the game. Miracle in the Desert is

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Speaker 1: the title of this Cardinal's Folk Tales, where we're going

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Speaker 1: to the archives in some great, rarely heard audio that

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Speaker 1: are Jim Almahundro found both from the Green Bay Radio broadcast.

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Speaker 1: Also some of the audio we heard from Larry Fitzgerald

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Speaker 1: and coach McGuinness Josh McCown all talking about not only

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Speaker 1: the end of the game but the start of a

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Speaker 1: new era of Cardinals football in so many different ways.

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Speaker 1: In fact, let's start right there, Darren, because what if

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Speaker 1: what if the Cardinals had lost that game? What if

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Speaker 1: they had picked number one overall? Would they still have

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Speaker 1: picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone franchise quarterback?

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Speaker 7: You know if I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald,

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Speaker 7: because I think Danny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team.

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Speaker 7: You know, I remember so vividly in the month leading

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Speaker 7: up to the draft. Denny wasn't like a lot of

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Speaker 7: coaches there were oftentimes when he was he said more

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Speaker 7: than maybe then maybe he should. And I remember in

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Speaker 7: those days I was covering the team for the East

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Speaker 7: Valley Tribune. I had come out to a day in

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Speaker 7: the off season, sometime in April, and I was the

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Speaker 7: only writer here and the only other media member who

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Speaker 7: was showing up was brad Cessmett, who was working for

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Speaker 7: one of the local stations that day, and he had

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Speaker 7: an interview apparently scheduled with Denny Green. And all they

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Speaker 7: did was bring Denny Green down to the media area

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Speaker 7: and then they just had a camera and they were

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Speaker 7: sitting there and they're having it. So as a media member,

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Speaker 7: I'm going to listen to the interview and take what

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Speaker 7: I can get from it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, nobody told you you couldn't.

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Speaker 7: So Denny Green is talking about and you have to

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Speaker 7: remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning

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Speaker 7: and Philip Rivers, those are all available with the Cardinals

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Speaker 7: picking third, and at this point the Cardinals court was

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Speaker 7: Josh McCown probably, and there were questions about Josh and

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Speaker 7: whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh.

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Speaker 7: He would talk him up all the time, and at

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Speaker 7: one point Denny Green said, We're not going to take

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Speaker 7: a quarterback third. Overall, well, as a reporter, I had

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Speaker 7: that in this day, this is pre internet, so I

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Speaker 7: had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously, the

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Speaker 7: other paper in town didn't have the story. So the

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Speaker 7: next day I came back. There were other writers here.

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Speaker 7: Ken Summer showed up, Bob bomb from the Associated Press,

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Speaker 7: and they get Danny Green to come down and talk,

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Speaker 7: and they're trying to get him to say the same

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Speaker 7: thing again, and he won't do it. And finally Bob

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Speaker 7: Bam says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying

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Speaker 7: to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday.

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Speaker 7: And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Today is today.

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Speaker 1: I tell you though, that was back in the days.

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Speaker 1: And we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't

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Speaker 1: always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity

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Speaker 1: for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball boy by the way

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and

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Speaker 1: fits as it came to be. Once he did get drafted,

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Speaker 1: he showed up in the Cardinals locker room and there

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Speaker 1: was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that

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Speaker 1: he cost him the number one pick overall.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and look, it's not like the Cardinals made

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Speaker 7: a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination. But

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Speaker 7: you do wonder a little bit what, Okay, Eli Manning

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Speaker 7: went number one and then Robert Gallery went number two.

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Speaker 7: But you wonder a little bit if they didn't take

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Speaker 7: Fits and they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 7: how different does life with the Cardinals? You know happen?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 7: The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl

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Speaker 7: because they get Kurt Warner who has his career renaissance

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Speaker 7: throwing to and Kwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 7: And the Cardinals don't make the super Bowl unless Larry

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Speaker 7: has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide

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Speaker 7: receiver ever.

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Speaker 1: So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals if Eli Manning doesn't end up with the Giants.

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Speaker 7: Also true, So although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants,

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Speaker 7: he was drafted by the Chargers, and they are to

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Speaker 7: make the trade for Philip Rivers. There was a lot

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Speaker 7: of intrigue without draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much

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Speaker 1: of a career after that, always remembered for what he

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Speaker 1: did for the Green Bay Packers got the all expenses

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Speaker 1: pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because he

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Speaker 1: got a key to the city and everything else. But

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Speaker 1: they ended up changing the force out rule in large

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Speaker 1: part because of how that went down in the end

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Speaker 1: zone at Sun Devil Stadium.

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Speaker 7: I had no question that it was a force out play.

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Speaker 7: And now you have to get feet down and if

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Speaker 7: a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that

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Speaker 7: touchdown does not count in today's NFL.

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Speaker 1: So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game.

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Speaker 1: One of the great historic moments in Cardinals history, and

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Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it.

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