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Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky, Joky.

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Speaker 1: I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, he I'm ghosted. I gos nandas p. Hey boo,

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Speaker 1: it's me Ros and welcome to Ghosted by Ros Hernandez,

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Speaker 1: the podcast where I talk to people that I like

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Speaker 1: about the paranormal. Y'all. Bailey Sarian is on the pod.

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Speaker 1: She was on years ago, and you know, it was

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Speaker 1: so long ago that I'm like, let's just hear her

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Speaker 1: stories again. I remembered as she was telling me. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, some of these old episod

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Speaker 1: I reference certain things like my Patreon that I used

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Speaker 1: to have and that doesn't exist anymore, and so people

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Speaker 1: are constantly like, I want to see that's listen. I

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Speaker 1: love when people go back and listen to old episodes,

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Speaker 1: but you do have to keep in mind that, like

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Speaker 1: they are old, so some things have changed. So we're

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Speaker 1: kind of doing a do over years later, and she's

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Speaker 1: got new ghost stories. And of course, you know Bailey Sarian,

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Speaker 1: she's huge on YouTube, murder, mystery and makeup. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she's she's just everything I love. She's so cool and

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Speaker 1: people are constantly trying to tell me that she needs

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Speaker 1: worked out and she brought it. You're gonna love it. First,

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Speaker 1: let's get into a ghost story. This one is from James,

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Speaker 1: a listener who sent me an email. James writes, my

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Speaker 1: sister lives in this house and it was very haunted.

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Speaker 1: She had ghost investigators come and they caught a lot

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Speaker 1: in them. I used to come and watch my nephew

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Speaker 1: We would be sitting in the living room and hear

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Speaker 1: my phone for some reason died suddenly, so I was

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Speaker 1: using his I'm assuming James is talking here about his

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Speaker 1: partner at the time. Okay, so James Lice, I was

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Speaker 1: it's one of these like Grinder gay hookup apps. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I stood there stunned because I thought this was a

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Speaker 1: mad and blamed me for going through his phone, which

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Speaker 1: was not the case because I trusted him and I

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Speaker 1: was just using the camera. He had other issues too,

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Speaker 1: because he was also very narcissistic and abusive. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, but this that's for another podcast. James writes. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we are not together anymore, but I believe that the

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Speaker 1: leaving claw marks on her sheets, and he threw holy

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Speaker 1: would love to think that the ghost in your sister's

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Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing. I appreciate that. Speaking of Scruff and

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Speaker 1: Grinder and that sort of thing, you know, I do

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Speaker 1: do these videos on YouTube which are essentially a low

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Speaker 1: budget ghost hunting reality show that I do completely by myself.

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Speaker 1: It's called ros Hernandez The Haunted Doll, and I meet

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Speaker 1: guys on Grinder that joined me to go ghost hunting,

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Speaker 1: and I have been posting quite consistently. I'm very proud

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Speaker 1: So that's just called The Haunted Doll ros Hernandez The

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, high Hi, you're back. I am. You

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Speaker 1: were on this like so long ago?

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Speaker 2: Was it COVID?

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Speaker 1: I think it was COVID because I remember I was

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Speaker 1: I was doing my makeup when I was talking to you,

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Speaker 2: We were in the studio, Yeah, definitely, And I was

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: Yourself, clamorous, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You're everything I love like glamor, spooky, weirdness, funny.

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Speaker 2: Weird, Yeah, yeah, sarcastic, yeah, cry Oh, dead inside a

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Speaker 1: No, I love that you're in touch with the dead

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Speaker 1: inside of you. But it's not. It's not like you're

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Speaker 1: dead inside. Some people are just dead inside. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's easy to get there though, especially with everything that's

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Speaker 1: No? I totally understand. Yeah, But you know what's so

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Speaker 1: weird is like, as the world is so horrible, I

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Speaker 1: But it's like but the world is already fucked up,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just like, tell me about a cannibal.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm like make it worse. Ye, Like everything

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Speaker 1: But somehow it makes me feel better.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about estate sales before we started recording,

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Speaker 1: because you got that incredible vintage Vivian Westwood jacket. I

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Speaker 2: It's vintage vintage. I don't know what year, like where

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Speaker 1: Well it was at least a year old. That's vintage.

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Speaker 1: I love an estate sale so much too. Well, first

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Speaker 2: Okay, if I do the same exact thing, I start

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Speaker 2: No, it's kind of weirdier in someone's house just buying

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Speaker 1: I went with a friend one time that was opening

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it's just people like a divorce and they're

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Speaker 1: That's when they get a company to come in and they

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Speaker 2: So but we were talking like I felt like estate

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what I realized with thrift stores is

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Speaker 1: that Goodwill, if you donates a good Will everything good,

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Speaker 2: Right, everything is like from Forever twenty one or H

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Speaker 1: about ghosts, I must ask you. So, the last time

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Speaker 1: been a long time. The world is completely different since then.

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Speaker 1: I've been like five different genders since then. Okay, tell

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Speaker 2: Believes my beliefs.

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Speaker 1: Just where are you at? Like you you believe in ghosts? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I do? I why not? Why not?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I always have these moments of

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Speaker 2: like I'm alive and like my body's working, and you

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Speaker 2: think about how like intricate everything is. Yeah, and it's

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Speaker 2: like I don't even know how this works or why

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Speaker 2: I'm here. So why wouldn't there be like other things?

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Speaker 2: I don't even understand how this would works. So why

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, that's what I always tell myself

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Speaker 1: comes to like like one thing I always think about

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Speaker 1: is like the internet electricity, Like I couldn't tell you

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Speaker 2: No, when you air drop something, I don't know what that.

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Speaker 1: How is that happening?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't want to know. And

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Speaker 2: It's fun not knowing. And even if it was explained

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Speaker 1: And that's what I think. When you die and all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the evil ghost Those ones freak me out.

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Speaker 1: That happens every year, and I don't understand why this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet that the demon in there is like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: That wouldn't even be fun. You had to scare her.

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Speaker 2: Right, So if like I'm scaring the ghost, I think

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Speaker 2: I feel like, Okay, I'm now in control. You can

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Speaker 2: that's my approach to this. To this guy, I think

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Speaker 1: Oh for like photos, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I can't take pictures. And he would go downstairs in

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Speaker 2: So I found out it was a dark room, which

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Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense, but I couldn't find anything

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Speaker 2: Oh no, so I believe he I might be missed speaking,

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Speaker 2: but he like started sad okay, right, and then he

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Speaker 2: was an attorney for Reagan okay, And I was like okay, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: But it's just like I wonder what kind of conversations

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 2: I wish. I wish ghosts could just like sit down

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Speaker 1: Get me in there, yeah, get me in there. I

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Speaker 1: got the tools, do you. I will get down in

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Speaker 1: that basement or where is this downstairs? Just downstairsir? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll get in that bathroom and I'll figure out.

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Speaker 2: What's what William. Yes, Because a lot of these things

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Speaker 2: I watched, like the ghost Hunter stuff, I think, I

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Speaker 2: I don't. I think I hate watch it sometimes because

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Speaker 2: Did you hear that? Did you hear that? And think

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I want to sit down with the ghosts and be

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Speaker 2: like tell me everything.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's me. I want the goss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just spent the whole weekend in San Francisco at

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Speaker 1: these haunted hotels.

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Speaker 2: Oh really?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Which one?

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Speaker 1: Well? I did two that are right next door to

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Speaker 1: ones called the Majestic, and they're both haunted by ladies.

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Speaker 1: Because I have a new rule that I don't like

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so it's just like me and the girls,

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Speaker 1: And she used to be the headmistress when it was

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Speaker 1: the truth is. It was so long ago with this

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Speaker 2: Where's the book? Is there a hidden diary somewhere in

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Speaker 1: I'll get a jackhammer, and well, I don't care, I'll

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Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like women ghosts would be. They're not

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Speaker 2: as aggressive as the men typically. Yeah, at least in

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Speaker 2: the three ghosts that I think of experienced. But the

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Speaker 2: one I currently have I fully believe.

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Speaker 1: As a dude, Well, I like that your technique is working.

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Speaker 1: I think that's genius.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what else to do. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: would hand him a mop. Make yourself useful?

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Speaker 1: Well, if he's living there for free, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And you're flickering my lights all the time anytime I

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Speaker 2: the gay But like, can you mop or something? Make

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Speaker 2: you like do my dishes? That'd be super up, Like

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Speaker 2: this could be a teamwork.

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Speaker 1: Listen, people all the time love to be like, well

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Speaker 1: if they're going to be living here, squatting, frogging in

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can flick lights, you can put away

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Speaker 1: the groceries.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you're the ghost queen.

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Speaker 1: So with that contrasts, I love that even better the

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Speaker 2: So then let me ask you this because I don't

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Speaker 1: I think there's a variety of reasons. I bet you

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Speaker 1: this guy. I mean, so what you said he was.

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Speaker 2: A lawyer, he was like he was he was a lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a lawyer. But like, yeah, this guy,

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Speaker 1: this is just my guess, this is just me projecting

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like it.

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Speaker 1: He always wanted to be a photographer. He was always

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Speaker 1: them to know, like, let me represent you, and like, yes,

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Speaker 1: i'm your lawyer, but like I'm just like you. I'm

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Speaker 1: also an artist. And he was passionate about photography and

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Speaker 1: that room that was his dark room, was his special

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Speaker 2: I like that. That's actually, yeah, that actually would make

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Speaker 1: That's what I think. I don't know. I haven't met

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Speaker 1: Maybe he never got over that. I mean, I'm a

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Speaker 1: But the ones that are like stuck in a place,

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Speaker 1: it's because there's some kind of reason why they're just

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Speaker 2: Did you ever watch the movie Susie Q. It's like

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Speaker 2: It was a tragic story. It was a Disney original movie,

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Speaker 2: But why is it some people not the others? And

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think to get reincarnated, you would have

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Speaker 2: You'd have to accept.

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Speaker 1: Listen, none of us know anything about any of this,

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Speaker 1: I know, but this is my theory based on my

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00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: years of talking to people and just kind of like

439
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: gathering what I'm hearing. It just kind of seems like

440
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 1: that's how it works.

441
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you mean? How what works?

442
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: How when you die? It works that you just if

443
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: you accept it, then you have more freedom to go

444
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: to the next one or like come back sometimes or

445
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: like you know, if someone gets out of wigi board

446
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: and they're like, I want to I want to channel,

447
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: like I want to find my old aunt or whatever.

448
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 1: Like she can she can be like okay, what's up. Yeah,

449
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: but if you're like stuck in a place, I think

450
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: you have to like go to that place with the

451
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: ouiji board. And then the person's like they're they're stuck there.

452
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: And that's not about doing a wigi board. But I

453
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: get scared. I'm a little scared.

454
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the thing. You do still have to

455
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: live there. Because I'm really good at like talking to ghosts,

456
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: being nice of them but being cool with them and whatever.

457
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: But I don't get rid of ghosts. I'm not. That's

458
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: not the eviction thing and all that is not what

459
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: I do. I basically just want to hang out with

460
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: a ghost. That's why I usually don't go to people's houses.

461
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: I just did Tricksy Mittel's house, and then when I left,

462
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 1: I was like, hope I didn't make anything worse, because

463
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: I usually when I do this, it's like at hotels.

464
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: They're like at a place that's very like we're haunted,

465
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: come on in. And so I'm like, oh, if I

466
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: made things crazier, like they'll love it.

467
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: But I'm the same way though, like I don't necessarily

468
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: want to get rid of anything. It's just let's be cool,

469
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: let's look out for you.

470
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,479
Speaker 1: And I think I don't see any harm and like

471
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: talking to a ghost like it's a human and just

472
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 1: letting it know, like, hey, I'll be cool if.

473
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: You're cool, you know, definitely, But then there's those scary

474
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: ones that are more there's that evil feeling behind it.

475
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: When I first moved to La, I got like I

476
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 2: had bad credit, not a lot of money, so it

477
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: was just like I took the first, you know, apartment

478
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: that I could find, and it was like great. It

479
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: was midtown, not great, but it was a place so

480
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: I was happy, and I knew when I first walked

481
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 2: in there, it was just something was so dark and heavy,

482
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 2: just yucky, like dread just washed over you. And I

483
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: just thought, oh, I'm depressed, Like i'm moving, I'm stressed.

484
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: There's a lot of my like it's just me right,

485
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: But it was like I would leave the house and

486
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: I would feel a hundred times better, but as soon

487
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: as I came home, it was just dread. And at

488
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: that time, I was like filming all my videos and

489
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 2: everything at home, so it was like hard to get

490
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: out of it. And those ones scare me because it's

491
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 2: like what do you want? Like what you just want

492
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: me to leave? Like how can we make this work? Ghosts?

493
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, and see that's where I think it's a ghost

494
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: that in an unhappy way and now that emotion is

495
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: stuck there. Yeah.

496
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: I mean I had these two women come out. They

497
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: they didn't call themselves like ghosts.

498
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: I remember. This is something else along with Susie c

499
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: that I'm remembering from us talking about when you were

500
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: on last Yeah, I keep going, keep having.

501
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: A long time ago. And I had a friend reach

502
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: out to them to see if they would come. They volunteered,

503
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 2: they don't charge, and I didn't want them to know,

504
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: like my name or anything. So my friend reached out

505
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: and then they showed up and instantly when they walked in,

506
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: they were like oh yeah, and I was like what

507
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, there's something. I'm getting whispers in my

508
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: ear and every couple of minutes, like it was two women.

509
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: So one of them like turn and just like she's

510
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: like they're talking to me. She just keep turning and

511
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, what are they saying? And she's like

512
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 2: I'll tell you later. I was like a gay, I'll

513
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 2: yeah right. And then she asked me to leave the

514
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: apartment because they just wanted to like walk around without

515
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 2: my input and like this is what I'm thinking, this

516
00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: is what I'm being.

517
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: So they which just robbed you, really because I felt

518
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: like this was They're like, can you just leave and

519
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: let us have some alone time. I thought, your fancy,

520
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: You're so right.

521
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that. I was just like

522
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: share whatever. Yeah, I probably got robbed, but afterwards I didn't. Again,

523
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 2: I didn't tell them anything. And afterwards they walked me

524
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: through the apartment and it was all the spots that

525
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: I was feeling. There was something they took me to.

526
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: There was like this closet. It was a simple closet,

527
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: but again it was just very dark, heavy and my

528
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: bed faced it. So at night I would I was

529
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm a little baby, but I would put my head

530
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 2: like under the blankets because I just felt like something

531
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: was standing there watching me. It was yucky, and it

532
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 2: was every single night and it was just like ugh,

533
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: and there was something about because there was also a

534
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: bathroom right next to it, there was just something there

535
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: that was yucky. Heavy and honestly angry was the feeling

536
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: I was. And then in my other bedroom, this is

537
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: where I would film and whatnot. That's when like things

538
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: would like move or fall over, and you know you're

539
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 2: thinking like, oh, I just misplaced it. But it was like,

540
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: I know I didn't move that picture. I know that.

541
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: You just start to feel crazy. It got to a

542
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: point where I got this really cool like not even

543
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: isn't vantage sure. It was just this grand mirror. It

544
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: was beautiful, and the lady was selling it for twenty bucks,

545
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 2: and I was like, I have to have this mirror.

546
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: Was this marketplace or what, No, it's just on the street.

547
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: You know, everyone just puts stuff on the street. Of course,

548
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I get some good stuff. I am that

549
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: girl like let me pull over, let me look. Yeah,

550
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: And it was in beautiful mirror. So then she said

551
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: it was like her grandma's whatever, and she's like, I

552
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: just don't like that mirror. So I was like I'll

553
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: take it. So I hung it up. And there was

554
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: this one time specifically where I was you know, final

555
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: looks when we were about to leave the house. So

556
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: you're like, you know, in the hair or whatever, and

557
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: there was something I caught it in the mirror kind

558
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: of walking by, and I was alone behind you behind me,

559
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: I don't and there I didn't see like a clear person.

560
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 2: It was just this black like swish behind me. And

561
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: there's no windows around, there's nothing. So in that moment,

562
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: like I literally lost I think all my color and

563
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: I just stood there like when I look around, there's

564
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: nothing around. I was like okay, and then I thought, okay,

565
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: maybe I should get my carbon monoxide you know, see

566
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: if there's like an issue there. Yeah, I was like,

567
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: maybe it's that. Let me use that. Turns out I

568
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: didn't need a new carbon monoxide thing. But then so

569
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: that gets fixed. But then the mirror starts to crack

570
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: and just break, and I never looked at that again.

571
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: I got rid of it.

572
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: It was do you sell it to someone for twenty

573
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: bucks on the street fifteen fifteen markets out? He has

574
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: a crack? Now?

575
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, that's character. But so that was

576
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: really spooky. But the ladies they walked me around and

577
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: they were saying that something very traumatic had happened in

578
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: the house. And afterwards I did some research and found

579
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: out that someone had ended their life in the room

580
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: that I filmed in Yeah, and then they were hanging

581
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: out in the closet just really like upset and mad.

582
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: So they were mad. This is what the ladies told me.

583
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: So the ladies told me that the guy who killed

584
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: himself was he was gay and he was very upset

585
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: because in the room where I filmed, it was a

586
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: bunch of makeup and they said it was making him

587
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: mad because it was all the things he wanted and

588
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: he couldn't have. And when he was alive, his parents

589
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: didn't accept him. So he ended up going into the

590
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: bathroom and he hanged him and then he I don't

591
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: remember the explanation of how he ended up in a closet,

592
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: but like metaphorical, I know, I was like maybe, but

593
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: that he would just kind of pace around the upstairs,

594
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: just angry at his life. What he wanted and he

595
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: couldn't be, and he just hated his parents and everything.

596
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: So he was just an angry, an angry guy. And

597
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: I was like, well, what do I do because my

598
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: dumb ass. At first, before I brought the ladies in,

599
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, I'll offer the ghost a lipstick. So

600
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: I offered the ghost I was alone. I was like,

601
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know ghosts like I

602
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: have this lipstick. You can have it. It was a

603
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: red color from Urban Decay. Can have it. I'll leave

604
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: it right here, Okay. So then when I came home,

605
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: like the lid was off, it was on the floor,

606
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: and of course you can justify this away, but truly

607
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: that there's how did that happen? I don't know. And

608
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: the ladies told me that that is what set it

609
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: off because it made him really mad because he wanted

610
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: to wear lipstick but he couldn't, and he was just

611
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: some mad, mad, sad ghost. So they went in and

612
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: they told him like, you can leave, It's okay to leave.

613
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: But nothing changed after that, and I remember I was

614
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: like I can't take this anymore because the dread and

615
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: it was so real. And so I was packing, I

616
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: was moving, and you know, I think actually you had

617
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: talked about it in the podcast you did with Bridget

618
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: where you talked about using the snapchat like the dog Teacher. Yeah,

619
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: So I remember I was like, okay, I was on

620
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: Snapchat and I was like, I'm leaving my house and

621
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the dog face showed up right

622
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: next to me. Yeah, and I was like, okay, the

623
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: ghost the same bite too. I guess like this is it.

624
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: And then a loud bang happened and that's what I

625
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: was like, and I'm out of here.

626
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Someone else's the problem now.

627
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that.

628
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: Sucks because it's like you could have a fun gay friend,

629
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: but it's like an evil gig guy, just like mad

630
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: mad gay guy.

631
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: Well could you imagine just you know, your parents not

632
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: accepting you at all, like poor guy. I think when

633
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: I looked it up, it was like it happened in

634
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: the forties.

635
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

636
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: Because I looked up, I was like, did someone kill

637
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: themselves in this house?

638
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: Right?

639
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: And it was true someone did. And then there was

640
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: another woman who died in the kitchen, and I always

641
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: felt like there was something in the kitchen, but it

642
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: wasn't angry. And they were saying like, oh, it's just

643
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: the mom. She would always be in the kitchen, cooking, cleaning, whatever.

644
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: So she's this is just her space, and she doesn't

645
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: like it when you're in her space. She wants you

646
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: out of her space. So I guess I had multiple

647
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: people in that place. Yeah, it was a lot. I

648
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: mean it was a great price though at the time,

649
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: so I was.

650
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: Like, it is what it is, you kind of have

651
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: to deal with the yeah, even though the gay ghost

652
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: wishes you could wear lipstick. Yeah.

653
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean that was one of my first like real

654
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: experiences with like, oh I get it now, and people

655
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: say there's a feeling. Yeah, So you can't explain that

656
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 2: to people unless you've felt it.

657
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: Honestly, I've always tried to ignore that just feeling, yeah,

658
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: just being like like either because I'm in situations where

659
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm like I have to be in this room right now,

660
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: so like just ignore it. Or if I'm like ghost

661
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: hunting or ghost huntressing and I'm like I feel a

662
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 1: ghost or whatever, but like, okay, i'm filming this. That

663
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: doesn't translate. I don't want to be that person that's

664
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: like something I feel something like that, right, So I

665
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: always like turn it off. But a couple months ago,

666
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: I was in a haunted hotel and I started feeling

667
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: like a man, like like a man ghosts up in

668
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 1: my business. And ever since then, I'm like, I don't

669
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: want to experience that again, Like I don't want the

670
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't want that feeling so overwhelming. It's too scary.

671
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: It can be very overwhelming. Yeah, I always let the

672
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: feelings come and I think that's something I like, I

673
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: need to learn boundaries with that because it can dictate

674
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: your whole mood and how you're feeling and your everything.

675
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: I think it can take over. I think that like

676
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: sometimes when you're just in a bad vibe, that can

677
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: really impact your life. Yeah.

678
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: I mean I've always heard or read that like if

679
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: you're in a bad place and you're vulnerable, that's the

680
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: best time for like a ghost to snatch you up.

681
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: And I don't know what they do after that.

682
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: But I think that's where it's like the evil like demon.

683
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: Vibe, right, No.

684
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: Hangout was like I was watching your video about ed

685
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Laraye Morin, oh yeah, which I was really happy to

686
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: hear you talk about it in that way because they

687
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: come up on this podcast all the time.

688
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm so sick of them. Well look, okay, to be fair,

689
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: I will acknowledge that what they did was smart business wise.

690
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: When I always talk about like, okay, no one was

691
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: like going on TV in the seventies and talking about ghosts,

692
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: and I think that that was really like that's something

693
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: they started the interest and the stuff in a way totally.

694
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: And I think Lorraine, I think she had something ed

695
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think he saw an opportunity because

696
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: his whole background. I mean, he had some trauma in

697
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: the war and whatnot, and I just think he was

698
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 2: trying to like work things out. And then he with Lorraine,

699
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: it was like she was seeing stuff and it just

700
00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: turned into a career for them. Yeah, but then and

701
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: it became them kind of making stuff up now. But

702
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: don't you feel like that's how it is with any

703
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: like content creators, Like you find your thing that you're doing,

704
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: and then maybe you go on to see a haunted place,

705
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 2: but nothing is happening, So like people will make stuff

706
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: up just so it's not a waste of everyone's time.

707
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: Yes, well on you once everyone's paying attention, you know,

708
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: it's like you're trying to get everyone to pay attention.

709
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: And then once they start paying attention, it's like, Okay,

710
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: we're listening, you better give us something.

711
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: But sometimes there is nothing.

712
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: And I think that happens with psychic all the time.

713
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what do you think about What do you

714
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: think about Ed and Lorraine?

715
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so years ago I became friends with Andrea paren

716
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: who is the eldest daughter of the family that the

717
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: Conjuring is based on. I love her, Andrea, I miss you.

718
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well. She's amazing. She she had

719
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: a different story than what was reported from the conjuring

720
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Ed and Lorraine connection. And

721
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: I've also talked to a few other people that have

722
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: worked with them over the years that are like, first

723
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: of all, I think they were very Catholic, and I

724
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: think that that was the basis for their entire dogma

725
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: or whatever, like they're all their theories everything about ghosts

726
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: and demons were based in like if you pray to Jesus,

727
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: it'll go away, and like everything bad as a demon,

728
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: and like I just don't believe that, right right, But

729
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: and now so many people because their movies and their

730
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: books and them coming on TV all these years whatever,

731
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: Like now that's like what most people think a ghost

732
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: is is what they taught. Yeah, and dead. That article

733
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: came out the Hollywood Reporter about the woman who was

734
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: Ed's teen girlfriend.

735
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 2: I know, and she she worked for them, she lived

736
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: with them, lived with them, she was still in high

737
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: school when they were pregnant, yep. And it was suggested

738
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: that she allegedly should get an abortion, which she did.

739
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: I believe, right, yeah, she did, and they denied, deny,

740
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: deny that there was any relationship.

741
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: You know.

742
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: She ended up going to jail.

743
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and we're talking about that in your video. Yeah.

744
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: I think it's a state of where did it take place? Connecticut?

745
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to but it was a some kind

746
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: of law where she got in trouble for having a

747
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: relationship with a married man at sixteen, same insane. So

748
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: then Ed was the one who like bailed her out

749
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: of jail, and then they continued their relationship low key.

750
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: I was like, what what? And there's in their contracts

751
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 2: for the movies. Lorraine had made sure like in all

752
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: the contracts you cannot mention any of them as like

753
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: as part of the storyline.

754
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: So which is weird? I mean to be like, yeah,

755
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: you could have the right story story, but just one thing,

756
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: no mentioning the teenage girl that my age got the pornography.

757
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: I guess he loved his pornography. Yeah, and I guess

758
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: he loved allegedly just like having an affair, the fame

759
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: of it all, you know, So it was like, do

760
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: not mention any of that. But it could have made

761
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: for an interesting, honest story.

762
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: But those movies are like, first of all, this super

763
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: hot couple that.

764
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: The actors Yeah, oh, I know, what's his name? He

765
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: gets like more botox every every movie. He's more like,

766
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: I know, this is.

767
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: So mean, but I often bring up he did not

768
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: look like the rule, not at all.

769
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no no no.

770
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: Terrible cast. So that's good for them. But yeah, so

771
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: in the movies, it's like this hot Catholic couple that

772
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: they just love each other and they have no problems

773
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: other than fighting dbibs right, and it's you.

774
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: Know, it sounds like and they seem like they support

775
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 2: each other and love it and you're like, oh, that's

776
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: so great, and then you dig a little deeper and

777
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: you're like, hmm, he was kind of like just a salesman.

778
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. They They did make a lot

779
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: of money off of this stuff, which you know, if

780
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: people are working, they should make a living.

781
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: But there were just numerous occasions of where like the

782
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: families did not want them involved, but they would insert

783
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 2: themselves claim like we were involved in that one.

784
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like come.

785
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: On yeah yeah. So I don't know. I think the

786
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: movies are great, and I think like what they did

787
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: Obviously a lot of people responded to and now because

788
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: of them, we do have, you know, people who are

789
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: interested in the paranormal and want to investigate, so pros

790
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: and cons. You know, you can take advantage of young

791
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: girls and all that stuff, but you can do good things.

792
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, like how you know, It's just I

793
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: don't I don't know.

794
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

795
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the movies. I'll take the movies.

796
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: What do you think of Annabelle? Do you believe that

797
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: she's like really a haunted doll that's a demon inside

798
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: of her.

799
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I don't know how I feel

800
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: about haunted dolls. And I know, like haunted dolls are

801
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: like a major thing, but I don't know, like what's

802
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: a dog gonna do. I've never I guess because I've

803
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: never experienced seeing a doll and being like, oh my god,

804
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: I love this doll.

805
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's liberati.

806
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: But I've never seen one where I was like where

807
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: I got that feeling?

808
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: Right? You know? Well, you know what, let me let

809
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: me try to convince.

810
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: You, Okay, I want to be convinced.

811
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: I go to eBay, where.

812
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: I've seen these little they.

813
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: Sell haunted dolls, and they are one hundred percent of

814
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: the jet do you know just because because it's people

815
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: would not be selling them if they weren't.

816
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: Really, Okay, but can't I just destroy a doll and

817
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 2: then be.

818
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: Like, look, no, now the demons lose. What do you

819
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: mean if you destroy it? According to Lorraine Warren, it's

820
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: not about the object. It's once it's in your possession,

821
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: that demon's attached to you.

822
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: It's so exhausting.

823
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living. Okay, So this

824
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: is a doll we have named Becky, Becky the Haunted Doll.

825
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: Where's she from?

826
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Well, she comes with a whole biography. She is going

827
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: for forty nine dollars jieha show with Becky. You got it? Ross, Yes, Beggy. Oh,

828
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: she's kind of Alice in Wonderland. Like she's got blonde

829
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: blunt bangs, nice volume in her hair.

830
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 2: She So what what makes this a haunted doll?

831
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: Hello? Well, first of all, somebody went through the work

832
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: of finding out everything about the spirit inside of her.

833
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: Oh really okay, yeah, okay.

834
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: So it's real for forty nine dollars, okay, okay, So

835
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: this person has found out that Becky is the spirit

836
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: of a nineteen year old young woman that somehow has

837
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: gone into this doll.

838
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: Becky.

839
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: She lived from nineteen eighty six to two thousand and five.

840
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: Honestly to get out in two thousand and five. That

841
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: was a great time. But okay, So when I asked

842
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: how she died, she said, quote, I fell off the

843
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: bridge when I was leaning over to take a picture

844
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: of birds. She lived in South Carolina with her mom,

845
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: her dad, and her younger brother. She lived in a

846
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: happy home. I asked her what she was going to

847
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: be in her what was going on in her life

848
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: before she died, and she said, quote, I was going

849
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: to college for cosmetology and I wanted to be a

850
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: makeup and hairstylist for celebrities. I had a boyfriend named Blake,

851
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: and I wanted to get married after we graduated college.

852
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: I played piano and played at church and played when

853
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: we had birthday parties at our house. Okay, so basically

854
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: seems like she's a good spirit. Says she's bubbly patient, funny.

855
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: Okay, how do you get these stories though? From?

856
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: Well, they have used a spirit box. Are you familiar

857
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: with that? Yet? They've done a spirit box? It says

858
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: I think that they've really spent the time with all

859
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: the different devices to come to this conclusion. She said

860
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: a lot, She's said a whole lot. It also says

861
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: that her favorite food is corn dogs, spaghetti, and sandwiches

862
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: with turkey. You'll know she's around if you smell a

863
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: Berry scented lotion, which is very two thousand and five

864
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: about them Bodyworks Berry scented lotion, shampoo, and conditioner. It

865
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: also says she likes popcorn and pineapples. She does not

866
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: want to be held or cuddled, and yeah, it says

867
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: some of the activity that happens, she'll she'll make some

868
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: lights turn on. She'll play the piano if you have one.

869
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: It'll be distant, soft and muffled.

870
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: It's a good wouldn't mind a nice piano?

871
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Well, that would be great if she could play, you know,

872
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: some like two thousand what if she was all oh,

873
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: I was thinking Vanessa Carlton. You'll feel cold spots around her.

874
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: And she loves to play with hair and makeup accessories.

875
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: She would have loved the red lipstick Urban Decay. So

876
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: basically that's her. For forty nine dollars, you can.

877
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: Have Becky, Do you have any haunted dolls.

878
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: Well, I have one haunted doll that my manager bought

879
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: me because he thought that I, since I talk about these,

880
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: that I would want one, and I do not.

881
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: Oh you don't.

882
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't want one.

883
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 2: How come?

884
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: Because I don't take my work home in my home.

885
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: I want it to be no go loud. I don't

886
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: even want living people in my home. Yeah, and so

887
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: I do have this one haunted doll. I'm not really sure.

888
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: Every once in a while I hear noises in the

889
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: room that it's in, but that's just the wind, right. Yeah.

890
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: So if I die, do I get to pick the

891
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: doll I go into?

892
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: I think? So? I think. I think that's sort of

893
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: how this works, is that I believe that when you die,

894
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: you get to you get three choices Heaven, hell or

895
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: haunted eBay doll okay, And so I think if you

896
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: choose that option, it could lead to a great life.

897
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: You know, you could be fun because you never know

898
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: where you're gonna end up. As a dog, you can travel.

899
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: Most likely you're going to get bought by some weird

900
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: person and uh, you're stuck with them.

901
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: But you'll be fed corn dogs.

902
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: She loves a corn dog. Yeah, now, I don't know

903
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: how she's gonna eat a corn dog, but you know what,

904
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: you can figure it out.

905
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: What would you want to be put into?

906
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: I okay, I do own several dolls that I love.

907
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: I have this Miss Piggy Love Miss Baby. It's a

908
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: Franklin Mint Miss Piggy doll, and it's everyone listening. Go

909
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: google it right now, Franklin Miss Piggy. It is the

910
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: most gorgeous. She's probably like this tall off the table,

911
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: and I'm looking for like a podium to put her on,

912
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: Like I want like a column, like a like a

913
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: Roman column, because she's like she's porcelain and she's just

914
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: like she's porcelain. Yes, Wow, she's gorgeous. I want to

915
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: be in a Miss Piggy Okay, And I'd be like

916
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: yeah all the time.

917
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I love Miss Piggy. That's a good one.

918
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: Okay, what about you?

919
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: I have probably my American girl doll, Samantha. Okay, I

920
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: got her when I was like ten, you still have

921
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: I still have her, and occasionally I'll take her out

922
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: of the box and brush your hair and change.

923
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: Her outfits, give her a corn dog.

924
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think she likes corn dogs. I haven't asked,

925
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: but she's cute and I like her little outfits, so

926
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: maybe that's my first thought.

927
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that would be cute.

928
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't know a cute one. But I don't want

929
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: to be in a doll. I want to float around

930
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: and like mess with people, and then I want to

931
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: be reincarnated. It's like, give me some like plate time

932
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: to have some fun and just mess with the people

933
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: that I want to mess with, you know, just yeah,

934
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: just some there's some hitless people I would like to

935
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: mess with. Yeah, and then once I'm done, I would

936
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: like to then, you know, put me now in a

937
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: new a new body.

938
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: Well, sometimes I feel like if you're a ghost too,

939
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: it's sad. It's like it's move on exactly. Yeah, does

940
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying?

941
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: I like, aren't you born? Like don't you want to

942
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: do something else? Anything?

943
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of times it's sad. Okay,

944
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: Like I was encountering some ghosts at these haunted hotels

945
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: this weekend that were from like over one hundred years ago,

946
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, you mean to tell me, you've just

947
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: been in this hotel room for the past over one

948
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: hundred years. It's time to go, Like, it's not up

949
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: to me to make you leave, but like.

950
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: Come on, there's a big, bad world out there.

951
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: There's a way somewhere. You could come back as a tortoise,

952
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: like you could go. You could if you be a leaf.

953
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah just for a little bit, just try it out

954
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: for a little bit. Flowah, but you have to leave

955
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: this one first, then you can come back. Maybe you

956
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: could be an eBay dom. Maybe you could be I

957
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: don't know, some a pancake and an eye hop. You

958
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: could be all kinds of things.

959
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, why limit yourself to just being a

960
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: ghost in a basement. Yeah, just doesn't make sense to

961
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 2: me that part, Like I can't figure out.

962
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: But but we don't know because we're not dead.

963
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, stay tuned, Stay tuned.

964
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: Hey can I play you some ghost voices? Yeah, it's

965
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: time for EVP or ev plase. Okay, So here's what

966
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. I got a YouTube dot com.

967
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: You've heard of that, right, I've heard of this website.

968
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I I find ghost voices that people have posted.

969
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: Like I heard this in my house and I recorded

970
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: it type of thing.

971
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: Usually it depends. Sometimes they're like ghost hunters, but other

972
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: times it's it's that. But these I have two for

973
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: you today that are both from the same account. It

974
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: is called ghost hunts Source six. Good, so I think

975
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: I think that they're definitely I'm assuming ghost hunters with

976
00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: a name like that.

977
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

978
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: This first one was recorded at the State Theater in Springfield, Ohio.

979
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: All Right, tell me what this ghost is saying.

980
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: Okay, that's not it?

981
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: Is it? That's it? Okay?

982
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: Sorrs lo full sentences. Let me close my eyes. What

983
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 2: one more time? Is he asking for a lighter?

984
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: Totally? It's like you got a lighter? That is not

985
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: what ghost hunt? Source six? Oh? Okay, did they think

986
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: it was I'm gonna give you a B C D?

987
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a Joe Biden b liar? C?

988
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: Fire or d? Are you hiring?

989
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: Fire and liar are very similar and it could be

990
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 2: either way. One more time fire, I'm gonna say fire.

991
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: Final answer.

992
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: They believe it was liar, okay, which sounds more like lighter.

993
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: You were very close.

994
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: What was the context like, were they asking like how'd

995
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: you die?

996
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah I did. I did add it down the clip.

997
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: But I believe the person said something something that was

998
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: like referring to ghost activity like oh, I just I

999
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: just felt something over here or whatever. And then also

1000
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: the gohoest of like liar, oh, the ghost called out

1001
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: the person that was ghost hutting. Okay, next up is

1002
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: same same people, and this one is at a private business.

1003
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: I don't know the context. What is this ghost saying? Bottom?

1004
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: I hate these That one's creepy.

1005
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what theo what.

1006
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: I'll give you some options.

1007
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: Sounds like a same like father.

1008
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: Bottom, father, Yeah, yeah, yeah, very breathy father. Well did

1009
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: they think it was a what up? B? What child? C?

1010
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: Water or d what the heck?

1011
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: Now? I hear water?

1012
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: That is what they believe. Okay, and that go sounds thirsty.

1013
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: Get that ghosts of water.

1014
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: You need some water, poor guy.

1015
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do one last thing. I'm just gonna rapid

1016
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: fire throw off some ghosty, paranormal and explainable things. I'm

1017
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: curious your thoughts. What do you think about like coincidences then,

1018
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: like do you have things in your life where you're

1019
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: like those too good to be true or do you

1020
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: just go like eh, whatever.

1021
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: I love a coincidence. I'm a true believer that like

1022
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 2: there are no coincidences. I feel like it's life kind

1023
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: of like lining you up and reminding you like you're

1024
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: on the right path.

1025
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1026
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: So if it's like or if you're like thinking of somebody, well,

1027
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if that far. If you're thinking about

1028
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: someone and then they text you and it's just kind

1029
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: of to me it's like, oh, life is telling me,

1030
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: like we need to talk. Or it's like if you

1031
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: meet someone randomly on the street and then a month

1032
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: later you see them again. To me, I take that

1033
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: as like either I'm on the right place or depending

1034
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: on like the situation, it's like, Okay, so this person

1035
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: I'm seeing them again, Like maybe there's there's just something there.

1036
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: So you you do let your brain go to that

1037
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: where you're like, I wonder what it means.

1038
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: Totally why not? Why not? I mean one of the

1039
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: addswers sometimes like uh, there was one time where I

1040
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: traveled to like New York and I ran into like

1041
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: an old neighbor and yeah, super coincidence. And I don't

1042
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 2: know what to make of that. But in a way,

1043
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: how I took it was like, wow, look how far

1044
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: we've both come, because we both came from like not

1045
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: great situations, and it was like maybe just a life

1046
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: reminder of like hey, we're we're doing it like we're okay,

1047
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: and like just to connect and be on the same

1048
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: hate not the same page, but like in a different

1049
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: point in our lives. I don't know. I think there's

1050
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: something there. I don't know what, but I love when

1051
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: that happens. I don't feel like it's random, like something

1052
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: I think is lining you up and kind of telling

1053
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: you where to go if you're paying attention, you know.

1054
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: Love that. Yeah, what about Bigfoot?

1055
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: I have mixed feelings on Bigfoot. I love the idea

1056
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: of Bigfoot and they're being like creatures, skin walkers stuff

1057
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: like that, but then at times I feel like, for

1058
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: like indigenous people, a lot of the times the sasquatch

1059
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: or the skin walkers are on reservations. And I was

1060
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: listening to this interview with a group of Indigenous people

1061
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: and they're like, it feels like it's gimmicky and like

1062
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: we're indigenous therefore, like we have Bigfoot and these creatures

1063
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: and it's kind of dismissing us as people were just

1064
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: known as like we have these creatures lingering around and

1065
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. So I was like listening to that

1066
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, It's an interesting I never

1067
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 2: thought of it that way, where it's kind of like,

1068
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, the feeling is kind of disrespectful, sure

1069
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: the small group that had given this interview, and then

1070
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: there's the other side of like, well there's big footsteps around,

1071
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: you know, like this this sightings are always blurry, which

1072
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: is frustrating because we live in a time where we

1073
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: all have cameras that are pretty good quality, Like, how

1074
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: come nobody has like given us something solid, Yeah, besides

1075
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: the footprints and whatnot.

1076
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: I like to amaze what I will say as someone

1077
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: that like wants to capture a ghost on film, when

1078
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: there's times when I'm like, I think there's a ghost

1079
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: right next to be, it's like you grab like the

1080
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: camera and you're like shaking, and like I can't imagine

1081
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: seeing Bigfoot. Just like, first of all, being out in

1082
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: the woods terrifying to begin with, and then all wasn't

1083
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: usually a big, giant, hairy man, I would die.

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Speaker 2: My first instinct is not to grab my phone, you know,

1085
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I agree, it's like maybe that's why,

1086
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: but still it's we don't have one picture. Doesn't anyone

1087
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: have like a GoPro that they could just wear like.

1088
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: What is it? It is suspicious?

1089
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like the I've seen, I think it was

1090
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: like the newest unsolved mysteries they did where it was

1091
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: like big foots literal foots, like leaving this woman's home. Yeah,

1092
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: and that that would freak me out. I would move

1093
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: right away.

1094
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: I think Bigfoot is a ghost really Yeah. I think

1095
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: Bigfit's a ghost of like a caveman. Ah, and that's

1096
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: why you can't capture him. That's what I think, all right.

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Speaker 1: Next one, do you have a conspiracy theory that you

1098
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: think is fun?

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Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of conspiracy theories have gotten

1100
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: there was a time when it was really fun.

1101
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: I know. But that's why I'm trying to take it back.

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00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I again low state conspiracies where it's like I

1103
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: haven't worked this one out in my head. But something

1104
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about is, Okay, the time change you know,

1105
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 2: we change are the clocks and whatever? Yea, what if

1106
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: someone is like changing the clocks and controlling us through

1107
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: that way so we go to bed earlier, we're not

1108
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: spending as much. What do you mean someone I don't

1109
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: know who runs the clocks?

1110
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: Oprah, No, I don't.

1111
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: Think she knows how to run a clock. I think

1112
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: she has people set clocks for her, but it's like

1113
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: one of these tech people who are like, I don't know,

1114
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: because what if one day, just what if one day

1115
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: someone decides to like change it an hour ahead and

1116
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: none of us would notice because everything updates on its own, right,

1117
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: and then we start losing hours or gaining hours, and

1118
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: we're falling behind, and then we get all confused. So

1119
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: this hasn't been fully worked out in my head, and

1120
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: I need to put together a PowerPoint. Sure, but I

1121
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: think someone's controlling the time. It's so stupid, But that

1122
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 2: was one theory I came up with with this recent

1123
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: time change of like, why do they hate us? Why

1124
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: did they move it up like two hours? And how

1125
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: would we know who's fact checking this whole time thing?

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01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they could just do that, right.

1127
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: But then for why, I don't know yet. I haven't

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01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: worked that part out, but I like to think that

1129
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 2: maybe there's something there.

1130
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because these people are vampires and they want

1131
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: more time at in the darkness. They wanted it earlier.

1132
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: Oh, that could be nice. It's some kind of lawn

1133
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: place to be like, Okay, the vampires need their time

1134
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: too while they're here, so we have to, like the

1135
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: vampire lobbyists are getting together with the government to be like, hey,

1136
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: we need this time for the vampires to do well,

1137
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: or the vampires are just going to take over and

1138
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: we don't want that.

1139
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: Do you think vampires are real? Every once in a

1140
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: while you hear these people talk about that.

1141
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: No, no vampires. No. I think there's people who I

1142
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: don't want to say cosplay because there are people who

1143
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: make it their whole identity.

1144
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely people that are like, yeah, I'm a vampire,

1145
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: I drink blood.

1146
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they really do. I think I watched it was

1147
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: on like TLC. Yeah, they have great, you know, little docuseries.

1148
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: But it was like this guy who was a vampire

1149
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: qute unquote. He had the teeth in plants. He lived

1150
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: the whole vampire fantasy. He had the women that would

1151
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: come to his house also vampires with the teeth. They

1152
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: would drink blood and they fully were like, we are

1153
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: vampires totally.

1154
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: But will they live for hundreds and hundreds of years

1155
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: and never age?

1156
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: Right? No, they swore they were.

1157
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, though, I know this is like whatever

1158
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: if anyone as.

1159
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: Chair she's a vampire because look at.

1160
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: How young she looks. It's crazy. I'm just saying, I guess.

1161
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 2: I could see that. I just don't see her being

1162
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: a vampire though.

1163
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not. But just the idea of living forever,

1164
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: and would.

1165
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: You want to live forever?

1166
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: No?

1167
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: Really, I would love to live forever?

1168
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: No, I would. I think you'd get it, like, yeah,

1169
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: but wouldn't it be fun to be able to do

1170
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: that from a cloud and just look down and be like, oh, yoh,

1171
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: this is crazy. No, you'd rather be living ye as you?

1172
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that'd be so fun.

1173
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: Because but here's the thing, are you going to age?

1174
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: I better not, because what if you're literally a four

1175
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty year old human, you'd be crumbled.

1176
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that.

1177
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: I would be horrible.

1178
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: If I could be a vampire, I would think I

1179
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 2: would do it because I want to see all the

1180
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: different chapters of the world's play out. I think that'd

1181
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: be really interesting and all the fashion choices, the different

1182
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: types of people that come and go.

1183
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I would only if I could start a couple

1184
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: hundred years ago. I don't want to start now because

1185
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: I can't see it getting any better well to be

1186
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: stuck as the earth is like dying literally and technology

1187
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: is taking over. I can't tell with AI or not

1188
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: for that for another like couple hundred years, I can't.

1189
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 2: Okay, but what if you could be a vampire for good?

1190
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: So then you're tart. The people you went after are

1191
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: the bad people in charge. You seduce them, you be

1192
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 2: the hot vampire. Seduce them, you get up to like

1193
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: some big wig, corporate, fucking loser who's ruining our lives.

1194
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: Seduce them, bite them, take them down.

1195
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: No, but won't they become a vampire? Oh yeah, fuck yeah, No,

1196
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: that sounds awful. Okay, well I don't think so. I

1197
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: also don't I don't like blood.

1198
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, that's that's fair. You don't have to

1199
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: be a vampire, I know, yeah, that's okay. You could

1200
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: be a doll.

1201
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: I know. I think I'm more suitious to be a

1202
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: doll because also, like it's way less work, Like I

1203
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: want to just be able to stay on like a

1204
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: like someone's shelf. Yeah that sounds way more my pace.

1205
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to be flying around everywhere.

1206
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds so fun. I love it.

1207
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,919
Speaker 1: Well anyway, that's it.

1208
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: That's it. This is too fun.

1209
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: I know you're so cool.

1210
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: Oh, you're so cool. I appreciate you for having me.

1211
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well tell everyone you know where they

1212
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: can find you and all that stuff.

1213
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1214
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1215
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 2: You can find me on YouTube, Instagram, I'm on TikTok,

1216
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm on podcast pat podcast Snapchat. I have two podcasts,

1217
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: Murder Mystery, Makeup and Dark History you can watch on

1218
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: YouTube or wherever you listen to podcasts. And I'm just around.

1219
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm a floater. I'm here. I love it.

1220
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the coolest. All.

1221
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: Thanks. I appreciate you.

1222
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. So I'm gonna have to hit.

1223
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: You up so you can come over and talk to

1224
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: my ghosts. Please would you go?

1225
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, only I only talk to ghosts off cameras

1226
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: are rolling.

1227
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 2: Oh.

1228
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: I have no interest in talking to goes for fun.

1229
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: I will do it if it's content for my YouTube

1230
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: channel or I mean I can go poke my head

1231
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 1: in there without cameras rolling and just see.

1232
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 2: Would it be dangerous for me to do a a

1233
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: WISI board like alone?

1234
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: I think you should do it with me, Okay, but.

1235
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to film it because I don't want

1236
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: people to see ins in my house and then plan

1237
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: the killer.

1238
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: But what if it's just your bathroom.

1239
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 2: Oh that's true.

1240
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: We don't have to show anything else but just the bathroom.

1241
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just don't want the killer to see you, like, Okay,

1242
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: she's got a door there to right, you know.

1243
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, we don't deal with the whole cribs. Yeah,

1244
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: we just go into the bathroom. The cameras turn on

1245
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: once we're in the bathroom, okay, and it's you, me

1246
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: and the photographer, lawyer and the weiji board.

1247
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be really fun.

1248
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: I can get us some answers, can you. Yeah.

1249
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: I love answers. Yeah, yeah, I just want to know

1250
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 2: if we're cool or not.

1251
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: I think so. It seems like you got a good

1252
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: thing going on.

1253
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel so. At least I feel it doesn't

1254
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: feel dark like I have experienced in the past. So

1255
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: I'll take that. Ye. Yeah, Well, thank you, thank you?

1256
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, bye, okay bye, Thank you so much. The Bailey, Ah,

1257
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: it's a holiday treat. She's just a buzz She's so cool.

1258
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. And thank y'all for always letting me know

1259
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1260
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate you telling me who's got ghost stories and

1261
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Speaker 1: you know, on social media and our email Ghosted by

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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

1291
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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Okay, back,

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