WEBVTT - Elephant Love Medley (Derogatory) 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.600 What do you identify as freedom, beauty, truth or love. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.639 I think obviously I give beauty. But at the end 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:18.720 of the day, come freedom, beauty, truth, and come loos. 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.000 Love is a many splendid thing. Love lifts us up 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:24.680 where we belong. All you need is love. But don't 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.920 stop that together. It's honestly, I want to give Silky 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:32.080 Nut mcganash half man, half woman drag and do both 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.559 parts like I know I could. UM. That song I 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.839 think perfectly encapsulates what is the Elephant Love Medley? The 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.559 Elephant Love Medley, which is not a song but a 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:47.519 mash up of songs UM performance by Nicole Kim and 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:51.400 Ewan McGregor to perfection. Um. I think that song perfectly 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:57.880 encapsulates today's discussion topic, Basil Lerman, the Basilerman cinematic universe, UM, 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.320 and everything that comes with the beer. Sorry if you will, Yes, 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:06.880 the territory of one of the most maximalist utters of 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.920 our generation. Um, who is not gay for some reason. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.560 But we'll get into that. Yeah, we're going to be 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:19.160 discussing bases and you know he would say, which we 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.399 have not seen all of but um, like some of 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.399 Basilerman's movies have been very important to me, but I 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:29.760 actually am not as aware of a lot of his 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.080 other works. So today I'm a bit more of the 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:37.440 virgin in this scenario, and we will be exploring basist 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.679 films from kind of his oldest to his most recent, 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:42.440 because this is like a virgin the show where we 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.400 give yesterday's pop culture today's takes, I'm ros damn you, 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:54.200 and I'm fran Toronto Brock a kiss on the hand, 0:01:54.400 --> 0:02:03.840 maybe Continental, you know Rose, it doesn't matter if you 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:09.240 love them or Capital th That's pretty good, I have 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:13.760 to say, Like, as someone who is just coming off 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.240 the high of being at the New York Chromatic Ball, 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.200 I forgot that Gaga are still okay. Let's but let's 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.680 let's okay. I have a bone to pick before you 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.480 even get into it. It was not the New York 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:30.519 CHROMATICA Ball. It was the New Jersey CHROMATICA Ball. Okay, Baby, Baby, Baby, 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.239 I don't care how many times it's a New York 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:37.280 city on her tour dates. It was in New Jersey. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:41.240 It was in Jersey, and she reminded us many times 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.320 that it was Jersey. That was honestly, like, one of 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.239 my biggest critiques was that she said Jersey just way 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.200 too many times. Well it's better than if she said, Hey, 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.240 New York City and you're like, we're in New Jersey. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.200 But it was mostly New Yorkers and obviously she picked 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:01.160 that venue. That's not where you were geographically. Okay, actually, 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.360 I'm just to get right into the recap. I have 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:09.160 to say, like she she clearly like googled Jersey, like 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:13.040 right before the show, because you know, the best parts 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.840 of like a Gaga show is like her ad libbing, 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.080 and one of her ad libs was like, you know, 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.200 I just I would not say that that's the best 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.480 part of a Gaga show. No, it was definitely my 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.160 favorite and most memorable. The most memorable parts of the 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.679 show for me was her ad libbing and she was like, 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.400 she was like, you know, I love to come to 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:34.280 Jersey and look at the beautiful boardwalks here. It was 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:38.160 like have you had you seen her before? No, this 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:43.360 was my first time seeing Gaga. I uh, I felt 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.440 spiritually ready for it. I do wish. One of my 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.080 biggest regrets is that I didn't see the Fame Monster tour. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.880 I wish more than anything have seen that. But I 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:56.080 figured this was kind of I got really cheap tickets 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.760 for the pit and I was like, this is my 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.640 time now, UM to see Gaga, Like I'm ready for this, 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.600 and I loved um Chromatica. I love that album and 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:07.960 so I was like, this is the album that I 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.480 think is is worth seeing it for. Um, what was 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:17.160 your favorite performance? Okay, well she started out chromatical Ball 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:23.360 spoilers for those listening. She started out with three throwbacks, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:30.159 so she she did Bad Romance, poker Face, and justin List, 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.720 none of which she should be doing live. I did, like, 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.680 I strongly feel that we don't need to see them 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.320 anymore and I would rather I have her have like 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:45.440 put total pop songs and totally totally disagree, but you know, 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.880 we are different little monsters and that's okay that that 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:53.080 was my favorite part of the show actually, um, because 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.279 she did it as a park and bark. She literally 0:04:56.400 --> 0:05:02.120 stood on this rotating platform and a huge structural costume 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.000 that was like disassembled by her dancers and like kept 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.680 doing these different views. But she did all of these 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:11.760 songs just standing and singing, and it was because she's 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.200 done them like some billions. But I think that it 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.600 was a very compelling way to make us all pay 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.400 attention to listening to songs that we had heard before, 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.520 because she put vocal spins on it that I had 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.680 never heard before. I think it was sonically very interesting. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.040 We were focusing on the back backup dancers and the visuals, 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.680 so I did really really love those and as someone 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.200 who has never been to a Goga performance before, I 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.920 wanted to see you know, I get that part of it. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:42.560 I just wish she felt liberated from doing their biggest 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.800 hits because like we've all seen the super Bowl, Like 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:50.560 we've all seen the iconic performances of those songs, and 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.919 I just don't think there's that much more to be 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:58.279 gleaned from seeing them live, especially when, like with something 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:03.679 like Chromatica, I think there's other parts of her discography 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:08.320 that are more thematically relevant to that album that could 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:14.920 have used new life breathed into them for this tour specifically. Yeah, 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.960 I mean, she does no art pop in this tour 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.920 at all, and I would have loved to see some 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.320 art pops. I thought that. I also was kind of 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.240 not that I haven't been at the show, but I've 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.680 also like, I know what the set list is, like 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.680 I've watched the videos, you know, I think that, you know, 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.880 the parts that were most memorable to me and most breathtaking. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.520 We're definitely just the visuals in general. The show started 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.359 out with a very abstract film. A lot of the 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.240 graphics were in black and white. Um, and you know, 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.600 we've been seeing them all over Twitter. But it's just 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:51.119 really well done projection work that is not trying too hard. 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.920 That the kind of stuff that she does really well 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.600 or it's like the A V component is a way 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.520 is next level. Yeah, and her, you know, I would 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.800 say some of her costumes were not amazing, but some 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.320 of them were phenomenal, like the alien kind of mask 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.080 get up that we all saw. She performed shallow in that, 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:16.120 which I thought was so like incredible, Like she did 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.400 her sitting at the piano and doing her ballads, which 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.679 you and I was a glaring omission from the ballad 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.000 set list, but the ballads were another path. Yeah, I 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.360 thought it was unacceptable. That's maybe my all time fave 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:34.360 UM Gaga song I want her to do Speechless live again. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.760 Speechless is in my top ten of Gaga. I think 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.760 you know I was talking about this is someone this weekend, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.040 we need to do a Gaga episode. I would love to. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:45.960 I have so much to say to her, and she 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.280 was so formative to both of our upbringings, and I 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.960 would love to hear about how that all comes first 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.679 full circle. And I just want to warn the Little 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.920 Monster virgins that, like we will when we eventually do 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.720 a Gaga episode, we will not go easy on her. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:07.480 We will not hold her hand um I. As as 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.960 I may have said before, like part of my standing 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.560 her and that's why I'm being critical, even like not 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.240 having seen the show, part of my standing her is 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:20.000 like I want her to be the best she can be, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.760 and I love her so much. I know that she 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:26.120 has that in her, so I really take her to 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.360 task when I think she does stupid disappointing things, and 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.199 that I think is like healthy stand um right, Like 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.320 any any music artist, if you want to label yourself 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.440 as a stand stand like, you can do so by 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:44.640 not um uh just patently agreeing with and standing everything 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.880 the artist does without critique, like you know, kind of. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.640 I to my friend Hunter Abrahams is like the biggest 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.160 little Monster I know, and is in a Little Monster 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.800 fandom group chat with the like dozens of people, if 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.280 you know. But they're a nazing and they rented a 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.240 party bus um and filled it with little monsters to 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.320 to head to the MetLife Stadium, and I was a 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.840 little weary effort because I was like, oh my god, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.360 little monsters are kind of like a really annoying fan base, 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:14.640 Like what am I going to deal with? But like 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.080 everyone on the bus, much like you were very down 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.640 to just like make fun of Gaga and and all 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.160 the things that make it so easy to make fun 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.000 of her and so fun. Kind of on the note 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.679 of all this, of anyone is interested in some like 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.400 extra reading on Gaga, there was a really good So 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.600 Pitchfork does a thing and like I know, Pitchfork, like 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:39.080 I roll um every Sunday they like revisit an older 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.559 album and like do kind of an updated review of it. 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.040 And this Sunday they released an art pop um review 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:50.600 and it's actually really really well written. What did they say? 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.960 And um kind of a lot of things that all 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.080 of us say about art pop, which is like, you know, 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.040 very much placing it at the time in her career 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.480 that was like really to multuous because she had like 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.360 suffered an injury, she was changing management. Um that it's 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.160 like a very flawed album. But like received a lot 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.520 of unfair critique and also fair critique because she did 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.240 like really fucked up stuff like working with r Kelly 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.800 even though everyone knew he was, you know, a fucking abuser, 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.240 or deciding that she wanted to be the next I mean, 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:21.960 this wasn't sucked up per se, but just like a 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.400 polarizing thing when she was like, I'm the next Marina 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:28.400 Abramovich and I am a performance artist. I'm a helicopter 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.280 right now, like you know what I mean? Yeah, well, 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.360 I mean, and this review I think does a really 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.200 good job of placing all of the context of like 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.920 what she was trying to do with art pop, like 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:45.560 bringing fine art into a you know, pop landscape. So 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.840 I definitely suggest reading that. I also did write something 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.040 for Paper a couple of years ago, went after Gaga 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:57.880 tweeted that she didn't remember art pop was really disappointing. Um, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.280 I wrote something for paper that's, like I think, called 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.360 in defense of art pop, so that I would. I 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.959 think it's actually one of the better things I've one 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.240 of the few pieces of writing you would stand the 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.320 writing of one are the few pieces of journalism that 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.840 I stand behind. Um, So go give that a read. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.679 If you're interested, are you a pro jewels and drugs, 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:22.560 little monster or a anti Okay, just wanted to clarify. Um, 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:24.960 I I have to say, you know, in the making 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.240 fun of Gaga of it All, like I said earlier, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.160 my favorite parts were like the ad living Gaga is 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:36.480 on autopilot up there, like she is realizing things. Bottom Yeah, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.959 She's yes, that's exactly what it's giving. She's she's had 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.520 a full of that, and she's like realizing things like 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.040 as she says them. My friend Dakota, who I went 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.560 to the ball with, she was like, it sounds it 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.640 sounds like the way the way she talks is like 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:55.880 I message like prediction, text, like every word, every word 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.840 like that comes after like it is like just happening 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.200 in her mind as it as it occurs to her, 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.600 because she speaks kind of she speaks kind of slowly 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.840 but with a lot of conviction. Like, um there was 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.480 this one moment where she was basically trying to introduce 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.080 Edge of Glory, which was so good, and she was like, 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.320 you know, I've always wanted to shoot a music video 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:22.120 on a New York street fire escape, and and I 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.199 was like, what are you saying? Like who are you? 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:31.720 She's a fucking she's There was another there's another moment 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.680 where she was like, she had a really beautiful story 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.160 about Tony Bennett. She's like, Tony used to be my neighbor. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.800 Well he still is kind of And I was like, 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.240 what are you? Why don't you even Or the moment 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.319 that has already gone viral on Twitter where she was 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.679 when she was um, when she was like, and they 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.960 better not come for gay marriage, Am I right? Queens? 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.320 And I was like, God, that's like you've been saying 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.040 that for a decade. Gaga, like that is a decade 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:06.440 old take. Um, speaking of liftings, I just I want 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.559 to I want to spend thirty seconds on this as 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.880 a necessary p s A to anyone listening to this 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:16.000 podcast to not make the same mistake I made of 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:22.280 watching the beginning of Secret Celebrity Drag Race Celebrity in quotes, 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.120 I didn't even know that that was yeah. Um, well 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.320 I'm here to tell you that it really is not 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.959 a thing. Um, it was the greatest waste of my time. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.160 I don't know. I just watched it because I needed 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.520 something to watch with my trade this weekend. And I 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:39.520 was like, I, I mean I had some I had 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.600 some trade imported this this weekend, and you watched drag 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.640 Race with them. I watched Secret Celebrity drag Race because 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.800 that's what girl, this was. I mean, I don't even 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:54.520 need to say it. I can only blame myself, but like, truly, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.400 truly I want that time back in my life and 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.160 and and it is so cringe and such an insult 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.680 to the drag Race stage. Sorry, like I do feel 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:10.520 like I that the drag race stage deserves more than that. Um, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:15.440 And I I know I don't think that's what I 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:17.440 That's why I emphasized because I was like, I know 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.480 Rose disagrees with me on this, but um, all that 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.400 is to say is that all the celebrities that are 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.520 doing lip sync battle, which is the heterosexual rip of 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.440 drag race that you know, gets probably more viral videos 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.360 than drag Race, all those girls should be doing I 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.760 have watched that Tom Holland video. Man, incredible, it's so incredible. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:41.720 But Tom Holland and Hathaway, the rock Queen Latifa, all 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.360 those girls, they should be doing Secret Celebrity drag Race 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.840 instead of lip sync battle, because that's the thing is like, 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.160 like like even though drag Race is as huge as 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:58.320 it is, they still cannot get real celebrities to I guess, 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:03.560 like quote unquote Pete on it. Yeah, and that's really disappointing, honestly, 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.360 but like I don't know anyways, that's all I wanted 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.480 to say. Please please, please do not watch Secret Celebrity 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:13.480 Drag Race. Um, okay. One thing that I I'm glad 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.960 that you're giving that recommendation because I listened to another 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.040 recommendation of yours this weekend, but it wasn't a negative one. 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.320 It was a positive one. So you were really audamantly 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.320 trying to get me to watch the new League of 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:29.720 their Own series on Amazon. I was very resistant because 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.360 I know I'm gonna make some people mad, but I 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.160 don't really like Abby Jacobson. I kind of I just 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.600 kind of like find her whole thing like off putting. 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.040 I'm like, not really a big broad City fan. Your 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.680 explanation made sense. You're not a girl who enjoys cringe 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:48.400 core like that's not and and I just think that 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:53.440 she kind of plays the same character over and over again, 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:57.480 which is and she definitely does in this show. But 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.320 I'm glad that I moved past that because I watched 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.480 the first two episodes and I actually really liked it, 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:08.040 and I certainly I feel the same way about Abby 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.280 Jacobson that I did before with like I do still 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:14.400 find her annoying, but even though she is the star 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.520 of the show and I guess also wrote it and 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:20.680 created it, there's so many other characters to like fall 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.080 in love with, and caper Land's amazing. Darcy Cardon is 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:29.840 such a fucking legend. I I've never seen a league 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.040 of their own in full. It was like on TV 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.400 a lot when we were kids, and so I've seen 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.800 parts of it, but I've never watched the whole thing, 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.680 but I don't recommend it. It's too long, it drags on, 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.960 it's like slow. And also the original really thinks that, 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.720 like the coach Tom Hanks is like the most interesting 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.920 character in the movie, and he's not, you know, but um, 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:52.520 I know that the movie is kind of like queer 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.080 Canon because of like Madonna and Rosie and like the 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.160 like gay like undertones of it all. And I think 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.840 part of what's great about this reboot is that, like 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.320 the undertones are not undertoning, they are overtoning every character, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.879 and yeah, they're all gay, like I mean spoilers for 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.959 the first episode, Like I screamed when Darcy and an 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:14.720 Abby made up the end of the episode when she 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.640 and when she goes I thought so and just walks out, 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.520 and then I screamed again. And at the end of 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:24.760 episode two, um, when there's another same sex makeup, I 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:26.960 hope that that happens at the end of like every 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.359 episode just ends with kissing. It's really it's a really 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.760 satisfying show. I I hesitated to put it in the 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.520 feel good category because I don't want it to get 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.440 like ted lassoed, Like I think it's more complex than that. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.119 But like the show gives you all of these payoffs 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.520 that are just reminiscent of that era of movies. But 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.680 it's also like I think it's also earned because there 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.040 is a lot of tension and like there's a lot 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.800 of funked up stuff that happens, um in terms of 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.760 like these women experiencing massaw genine and racism and sexism 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.800 and you know, like queer faphobia. Um so when those 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:09.120 like joyful moments do happen, like I think my favorite 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:13.680 moment in the first episode is when Abby Jacobson, Darcy 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.040 Carden and the other woman just enter the field and 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.600 see everyone playing, and like they all like kind of 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:23.520 tear up because they've never experienced that before. And that 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:27.040 is so like it's like actually kind of moving, and 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:31.040 so those moments feel really earned, and it's not like 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:36.280 it's not just like like kind of masturbatory like woke rebooting, 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.320 and it's not traumapore and it's like kind of like 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:43.280 a good a good marriage of like acknowledging the flaws 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.119 of our history and of probably like the original source 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:52.480 material and correcting them. The lesbian haircut scene girl, like 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.639 it was so like the first episode. Yes, it is 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.679 so in the canon of like the L word style 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.280 lesbian haircut scenes. Like it's so hot, Like the show 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:07.520 is hot, and like Robert Dress, who plays Lube, is 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:12.680 so hot. Like everyone's hot. Everyone's hot. Also, caper Land 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.080 like should become one of the most famous people in 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:20.760 the world. I totally agree. Oh my god, you need 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:24.520 you need to listen to um. In terms of like 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.880 other things that I kind of maybe made you consume 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:32.199 this week, the leaked Kim Petris album. Yeah, I I 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.320 mean I didn't really mind. You know, It's like I 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.840 listened to like half of it, which took about seven minutes, 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.400 because they're like a minute fifty and you know, like 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:47.800 here's the thing. It's like perfectly fine pop music, and 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.480 like that's the thing with Kim Petris is like if 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.280 there wasn't all this baggage with Kim Petris, I would 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.760 like listen to it and be like cool, I'm like 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.920 glad this exists. This is like perfectly good pop music. 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.520 And like even even if it's not like her problematically 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.760 working with Dr Luke. Now, it's like the fact that 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.920 this album was never released and like you can only 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.639 listen to leaks of it, and it's like, why couldn't 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.760 this album just come out? Like it's it's really baffling, 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.639 and it does suck that there always has to be 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.800 something with her, because the thing is like she should 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.680 be a bigger than she is, Like she makes very good, 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:27.679 very consumable pop music like this and very tiktoki like 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.640 and and and truly like at this point, the biggest 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.639 moment of her career was when Coconuts was a sound 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.960 on TikTok and like, but like still nothing really came 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:40.640 of that, when for a lot of other artists, those 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.480 are the kinds of things that break them out, and 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.160 like she has a song, a song with Paris Hilton 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.040 on this album and it's just good, Like like that 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.840 Paris Hilton song is pretty good. It's it's fine. So 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.199 like when you're thinking about all that, like all the 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:57.119 why of it, it always leads you back to like, well, 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:01.919 there has to be some reason that this girl is 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.360 not breaking out in the way that she should be, 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.160 and all roads lead back to Dr Luke in one 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.840 way or another. M hmmm, yeah, I mean I think 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.119 that the drama surrounding this league is interesting for the 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.040 virgins um. There's not a ton of clarity about what 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.639 exactly went down. But leading up to the release of 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.959 this album Problematique, Kim has you know, been crying on 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:29.520 Instagram stories about how her label won't let her release it, 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.520 how she wants to quit because the album is in limbo. 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:37.360 Apparently it's been officially scrapped, and in a deleted tweet, 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.400 Kim said, you know the album scraped, so go listen 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:42.359 to the league, like I don't care, Like, did you 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.719 see her t talk where she was like, thanks for 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.080 getting my album on the top of the leak charts. 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.600 M I've got like the Number one League. Like that 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:54.080 stuff is funny, and like I appreciate that it's it 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.359 shows that like she has this like good sense of 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.800 humor and like she has all the components to be 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.120 you are really successful and compelling pop star. But like, 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:05.199 I know, the thing with Kim is, like I know 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.199 the odds are stacked against her because she's trans, and 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.800 like I'm sure that a lot of what's going on 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:14.800 no stems from probably like one bad decision that she 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:18.240 made with like signing the wrong contract at some point 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.719 in her career, and that sucks that it will like 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:25.080 haunt her forever. Yeah, you know, I think that there's 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.160 a lot of nuance to this conversation, right because Dr 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:31.040 Luke doesn't just produce Kim's music. He produces a lot 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.920 of dojo songs like Nikki Um, like a lot of 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:38.159 like music artists that we like consume and have no 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:42.600 problem consuming. And I do think sometimes that Kim is 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:48.320 held under disproportionate scrutiny. She should be scrutinized, right um. 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.200 But at the same time I think that it's sometimes 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:55.440 a little bizarre. I I'm not sure I always buy 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.040 the you know, I'm trans and so the odds are 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:02.080 stacked against me, excuse me, because they're just like tons 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:06.800 of marginalized people that um can do what they do without, 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:14.000 you know, signing to known abusers. But also she maybe yeah, 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.000 and I think that, you know, I I think at 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:20.200 the end of the day, I don't really care about 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.440 the mistakes she made in her past. And I also 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:26.159