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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephan

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Speaker 1: I never told your production of iHeart Radio ed. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another episode of Happy Hour in which we either

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Speaker 1: talk about something that we are just thinking about, watching

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Speaker 1: and today it's my turn and I'm gonna do a

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Speaker 1: little bit of psychosis. So let's let's just think on

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Speaker 1: this for a minute. And Annie, I know you even

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Speaker 1: have plenty to say. You're gonna have plenty to say, um,

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Speaker 1: because we often talk about fiction and or shows, and

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Speaker 1: we obviously love movies and books. Because as part of

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Speaker 1: our series, of course, before we start that, just a reminder,

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Speaker 1: we are doing a happy hour, and with a happy

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Speaker 1: hour means to drink. We're responsibly correct any yes, always,

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Speaker 1: or do whatever responsibly. So if you're driving and you're

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Speaker 1: specifically of anything. So if anybody has some cool drinks

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Speaker 1: come at us. But today, what are you drinking? Annie?

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Speaker 1: I am drinking a simple vodka soda. Oh nice, because

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Speaker 1: I have some vodka or you normally don't, so I'm

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Speaker 1: mixing it up a little bit. Okay, okay, okay, And

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Speaker 1: I am kind of still on vacation mode and so

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Speaker 1: that means I'm very tired and alcohol makes me sleepy.

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Speaker 1: So I'm keeping it non alcoholic that today with just

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you just have to hold back today

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Speaker 1: of the shows that we talked about. We We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about so much more, I know in the future,

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Speaker 1: especially when it comes to like mommy issues and parent

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Speaker 1: my head and how often these shows center around family

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Speaker 1: Like that's how often I do this. Um to the

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Speaker 1: point that when people tell me how much they rewatch

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Speaker 1: it's become bigger and bigger in conversation, especially during the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: You have a ritual which I have decided to take

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Speaker 1: this conversation. I had this Sunday Sunday Sunday, which has

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