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Speaker 1: dot Tex downst Welcome to One Bills Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bills Drive. It's a really really nice day in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: The numbers are on the field over at One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: The stadium floor is taking shape, the hash marks are

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Speaker 1: going in. The field's looking pretty good, Brownie, check it out.

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Speaker 1: What do you think they're gonna be I'm surprised. It

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Speaker 1: going in. Man doing well, Austin doing well. How you feeling?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. How is soccer practice last night? I'm productive?

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Speaker 1: Ruh productive productive? Yeah. How's your team's doing? I mean, um, girls,

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Speaker 1: teams doing very well. Boys teams struggling a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Have some injuries that doesn't help. Yeah, um, gonna be

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Speaker 1: shorthanded again on Thursday. So really shorthanded means what down?

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Speaker 1: Some players that start? Yeah short, down starters, Yeah, down starters,

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Speaker 1: So well, we're hump hump day, still working, Yeah, hump day.

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Speaker 1: And today we got some couple of guests that are

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Speaker 1: I think Bills fans are gonna enjoy. Don Beebe, former

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Speaker 1: Leon letdown. He's gonna join us today at one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about him. He's now the head

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Speaker 1: coach at Springfield College in Ohio in Illinois outside Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Also coming on today at two o'clock. Former safety in

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Speaker 1: Played in Cincinnati, Minnesota, and Pittsburgh's Solomon Wilcotts is doing

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Speaker 1: some work for Sky Sports and Pro Football Focus as

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Speaker 1: things that he's seen with Tradavious White and studying him

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Speaker 1: to come on, Chris Brown along with Steve Task. We

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Speaker 1: got a Twitter question out there for you as well.

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Speaker 1: into all these aspects of it. What pro athlete do

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. I'll remember it for the rest of

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Speaker 1: Because for a seven year old, for seeing that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the first two or three rows. All the campers are

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Speaker 1: sitting there. Who comes out of the door in the back.

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Speaker 1: It's Bernard. Everything gets really quiet, really fast. Okay, he

430
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Speaker 1: still has this little bit of a brace on his knee.

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Speaker 1: Comes walking in and his teammate at the time, Ernie Grunfeld,

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Speaker 1: who was a fantastic college player, a Tennessee role player

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. He says they were actually teammates together

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Speaker 1: at Tennessee. He says, guys, I want to let you know,

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Speaker 1: Bernard's been working really hard and he's gonna show you

436
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Speaker 1: how important hard work is to get where you want

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Speaker 1: to get in this game. Blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: So from there we're just does. From there, Ernie looks

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Speaker 1: at Ernie, looks at Ernie looks at Bernard, and he goes,

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Speaker 1: you ready, He goes yeah. For the next three minutes,

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Speaker 1: Bernard King is running end to end on the floor

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Speaker 1: and a guy is hitting him with a chess pass

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Speaker 1: at the free throw line, and he's shooting from the

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Speaker 1: wing from about eighteen nineteen feet. Every time down this end,

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Speaker 1: bang drains it runs to the other end of the floor,

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Speaker 1: chess pass out on the wing, nineteen footer draino comes

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Speaker 1: back to you. He does this for three minutes. He

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Speaker 1: hits nineteen shots in a row, and so after the

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Speaker 1: nineteen shot he comes down to the other end, he

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Speaker 1: gets behind the three point line. He's been running for

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Speaker 1: three minutes, drain and jumpers comes for the three point

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Speaker 1: line for there's twentieth shot. Draino and he looks at

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Speaker 1: all of us and he goes and that's what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see at the garden this year. So we're all

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Speaker 1: looking at and we're like, go and bananas. Right. Three

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Speaker 1: weeks later, he's out jogging, steps in a pothole, does

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Speaker 1: his knee again. Oh miss is the eighty six season.

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Speaker 1: And he was never the same after that. Oh my gosh, tragedy, tragedy.

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Speaker 1: We went from the highest of highs to the lowest

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Speaker 1: of lows. But he was a special scorer. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know those guys in the NBA, they just know

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Speaker 1: how to fill it up. That was him. Man, he

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Speaker 1: was unbelievable. So what pro athlete do you wish did

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Speaker 1: not have their career cut short. We've got a ton

465
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Speaker 1: of this and as as always happens, you get these

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Speaker 1: people and it's all different sports, and we opened it up.

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Speaker 1: But then we're gonna get into maybe one thirty or

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Speaker 1: twelve thirty. Here we'll talk about just the football guys

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Speaker 1: or the football people, but there's also everything else. At

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Speaker 1: Thurman Munthsonne and there's some Sabers you can put on

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Speaker 1: that list. Absolutely. There's also and from a tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: The official movers are the Buffalo Bills. From Doug Is,

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Speaker 1: I want to say Terrell Davis remember being seven years

475
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Speaker 1: old playing Madden and was always trading him to the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could have seen him play a little

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Speaker 1: more so I can remember more, but from highlights such

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Speaker 1: and such. The dude is the real deal. And you're

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Speaker 1: right he was Super Bowl MVP. From Michael bo Jackson,

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Speaker 1: imagine what he could have done. From Jeff There's so

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Speaker 1: many good choices I'll have to answer. I'll always answer

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Speaker 1: Kevin Everett to this question, lost way more than a career.

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Speaker 1: It's a good point of and that's a Buffalo Bill

484
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Speaker 1: connection from a rough thousand and seven season opener. I'll

485
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: never forget it. You never forget it. That was the

486
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Speaker 1: day I got put on the Wall of Fame? Was

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Speaker 1: it really? Oh my god? And it happened right after

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Speaker 1: I got put on At halftime, third quarter, first play,

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Speaker 1: first play of after halftime, Kevin Everett went down right

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Speaker 1: after I got inducted under the Pro Wall of Fame. Gosh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I totally forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, okay, so golf, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's something from Brian Golfer. Lady Payne. Stewart died in

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Speaker 1: a plane crash not long after his US Open Pinehurst. Also,

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Speaker 1: you could consider Tiger's career being cut short by injuries

495
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: sort of holds every record otherwise at this point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was cut that's valid. Yeah, it is, it is.

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Speaker 1: It was cut short injury, kept grinding through it, but

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Speaker 1: you knew he wasn't the same person. Yeah. And plus

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Speaker 1: it's also is never back. His personal life was a

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Speaker 1: wreck too, and that counts as well. And it is well,

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Speaker 1: yeah it is, but still cut short. You wonder if

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Speaker 1: that's sabbath his personal life, how much it's sabotage his

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Speaker 1: ability to play well. Uh, he took some time off

504
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Speaker 1: from the game, came back in man oh man. Yeah. Yeah,

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00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: plus his back, his back, his knee, Peyton Manning sing.

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Speaker 1: I really think he had so much torque on his

507
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Speaker 1: drive that he prematurely broke down his knee, his hip.

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Speaker 1: The whole fan and also another one from Bryce is

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Speaker 1: also Michael Jordan. Imagine if he didn't take two years

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Speaker 1: off to play baseball, would there be any question who

511
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Speaker 1: on the goat debate? What the hell is he think

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Speaker 1: if he had led the Bulls franchise to eighth straight

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Speaker 1: NBA championships. You're right, that's a great question. But and

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan did take time off, he came back and

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Speaker 1: won three more though, Yeah, nothing wrong with that. We

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Speaker 1: got we got more of that. We've got Don Beeby

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Speaker 1: coming up at one o'clock. We've got Solomon Wilcott's at Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we've got a ton of calls we'll get to

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Speaker 1: about what pro athlete do you wish did not have

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Speaker 1: their career cut short by injury. We're Steve Tasker Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown on buff On One Bill's Live, presented by kalidah

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Speaker 1: Hell from One Bill's Drive. Stay with us, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown.

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Speaker 1: We're here until three o'clock today. We're talking about what athlete,

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Speaker 1: what pro athlete do you wish did not have their

527
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Speaker 1: career cut short? And Chris Brown said, we've got a

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Speaker 1: couple of obviously, as we all do. We've got a

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Speaker 1: couple of obvious candidates. Thurman Munson's a good one. We've

530
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Speaker 1: got had Payne Stewart Say has said, we've had um,

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Speaker 1: let's see who who are the others? Uh? I went

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Speaker 1: with Bernard Shooter as well. We've got a bunch of people,

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Speaker 1: as sometimes we do. Who call in? Let's see, uh,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the phone. Doesn't take day? David from Brockport,

535
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Speaker 1: you're on the air with Chris and Stephen one Bills Live.

536
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Who do you think? Who do

537
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: you wish didn't have their career cut short? Oh? Yeah,

538
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Speaker 1: that's a good one. That's a good one. He did

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Speaker 1: have three thousand hits at the time of his death.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he had a lot of bad think.

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Speaker 1: He had a lot of baseball left in him at

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Speaker 1: the point where he passed away doing he was doing

543
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Speaker 1: earthquake relief in Nicaragua, right right, Yeah, he was. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to see how what do you, David, do

545
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Speaker 1: you remember seeing him play? What do you remember about him? No? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think we lost him. We lost but he had

547
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Speaker 1: played for a long time already. I mean he had

548
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Speaker 1: basically played for ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen sixty.

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Speaker 1: He was at the end of his career. Um, So

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Speaker 1: I think you can make the argument. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: you want to see a guy finish his career and

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00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: go out on his terms, and that didn't happen. Cut. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, fifteen years, I mean, seventeen year career, three

554
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Speaker 1: thousand hits, I mean, he had done a lot, was

555
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Speaker 1: already being called a shoe in for the Hall of Fame. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think there are different versions of this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody feels like he got robbed of

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Speaker 1: kind of hitting some of the career marks. You know,

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Speaker 1: three thousand hits, you're a shoe in for the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. You know, three hins for a pitcher, you're

561
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Speaker 1: a shoe in for the Hall of Fame. I mean

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00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: those are benchmark numbers. So, I mean his legacy had

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Speaker 1: been established, even though you know it was certainly tragic

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Speaker 1: and not being able to see him finish it out

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Speaker 1: the way he wanted to, but beloved sports figure in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: for sure. Let's take another call from Indiana. Dennis from Indiana,

567
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Speaker 1: You've got a player that whose career you'd wished didn't

568
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Speaker 1: get cut short? Who is it the biggest tragedy? And

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Speaker 1: you might bicker whether he's a pro or not, but

570
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Speaker 1: he was a number one NFL draft choice also drafted

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Speaker 1: by the Buffalo Bill signed the pro contract. So I

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Speaker 1: consider a pro. And that's Ernie Davis. Sir Davis, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner from Syracuse. He's been trophy winner. What's

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Speaker 1: that first minority, first black placeman trophy winner? Right? What

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Speaker 1: do you so? What do you what do you think

576
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: he could have been? Years old and following the Bills

577
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: and wishing he had gone to the Bills, remembering him

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00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: play on TV for Syracuse and uh, just one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest college runners I ever saw and uh and

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Speaker 1: never got to play one game. But I consider him

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Speaker 1: a pro. He signed his contract and was drafted. What

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Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think he signed a contract?

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00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: He was pro? No, do you think he could have

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Speaker 1: done in the pros? I don't know. He certainly would

585
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: have got a lot of fanfare, but I think at

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Speaker 1: that time, with the two leagues uh going on, I

587
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: think he may have set some records. I think he

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Speaker 1: would have had a long career had he not had leukemia.

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Speaker 1: And right he signed a contract, he was dead no

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Speaker 1: more than a year later. I believe that's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he died very quickly. And uh yeah, yeah that and

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Speaker 1: that is a tragedy. And Dennis, thank you. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: that call. That's that's a good one. Let's go. Let's

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Speaker 1: take another call and go to Bob and west sending

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Speaker 1: a Bobby, you're on the air on one Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: with Chris and Steve. Who do you have? Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon. How I won't bow you too long, but

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Speaker 1: I hope I get I'm pretty sure I got him

599
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: right up Mike Garrett, who ended up dying because he

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00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: saved the young kid from drowning. And also I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go to James Bob Kelso who gave his life in Vietnam.

602
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: And the only other guy I really liked is Shane

603
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: Nelson for the Bills, the linebacker who busted up his knee.

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00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: I think he went out to San Diego, but then

605
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: he ended up the career was over. And thanks for

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00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: the call, guys, have a good day. Yeah, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't Mike Garrett and I'm gonna I'm gonna look

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Speaker 1: it up and find out which running back it was

609
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Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chief because he was coached, because

610
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Speaker 1: Mike Garrett was the former USC running back right right

611
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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner in sixty five. I think he's still

612
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: around though, isn't he. I think he is. Who's this

613
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Speaker 1: Mike Garrett? Yes, he's been he's still around. He's five,

614
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Speaker 1: but he's still around. Joe Delaney is the guy who

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Speaker 1: passed away, the running back from Kansas City. He went

616
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Speaker 1: in there was a couple of kids swimming. He tried

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Speaker 1: to save one of the kids and couldn't do it,

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00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: and he himself passed away. I actually remember uh talking

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Speaker 1: to Marv about it and you know, saying, hey, because

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Speaker 1: he Marv coached him, Yeah, marching, yeah, and uh yeah

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Speaker 1: it was That's that's a crusher, you know that, And

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Speaker 1: particularly for a guy who to do that, and it

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Speaker 1: really can't save something trying to save somebody else, trying

624
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Speaker 1: to do the right thing. And you know, it can't

625
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: be underestimated the impact that that has on a team,

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Speaker 1: on a locker room. You know. I already mentioned how

627
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Thurman Munson's death affected that Yankees team in seventy nine.

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00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they just couldn't pull it back together. I know,

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Speaker 1: this two thousand and seven Bills team after the Kevin

630
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Speaker 1: Everett you know injury, which you know, fortunately his life

631
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: was saved and you know he had to rehabilitate it.

632
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: We all knew his football career was over. But that

633
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: team was terribly impacted by that because it's such a

634
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: physical game and you see that happen to somebody and

635
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Speaker 1: their body kind of go lifeless for a bit. It

636
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: shakes you to your core and kind of makes you

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00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: rethink things. You have a whole different perspective. It took

638
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: a long time for the guys on that roster to

639
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: recover from that. I agree, And it's it is especially

640
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: when it happens in the when they're on the field.

641
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: As you know, somebody happened in the off season, yeah

642
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: kind of thing, like you know, you're Bernard King, he's

643
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: training in the off season. It happened. Um, that's always

644
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: the crusher too. But when it happens like it did

645
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: with Kevin Everett, that's it does have a huge emotional

646
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: toll on the team. Let's take another call Tony from

647
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: Grand Island. Tony go ahead, you're on the one Bill's

648
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: Live Mickey Mantle. Yeah, yeah, I was waiting. I didn't

649
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: want to say it myself. I was waiting. He still

650
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: still had years left if he would have let it

651
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: straight to the beginning of his life. Yeah, that's right. Yeah,

652
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: he had terrible injuries. Yeah, I had some knee injury

653
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: problems and uh yeah, one of his first He had

654
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: several injuries over the course of his career, mostly with

655
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: his knees. The one, the first one he got was

656
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: probably a second or third year in baseball, tripped over

657
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: a water drain in the outfield and tore his knee

658
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: up because they had those sprinkler drains that would you know,

659
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: and tripped over that in the outfield and tore his

660
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: knee up. And I mean, I'm telling you everybody remembers,

661
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: and I'm speaking based on stories passed down to me

662
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: and by my dad, because my dad was a baseball

663
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: junkie and he grew up in New York in the

664
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: fifties when you had the Giants, the Dodgers, and the Yankees.

665
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking Willie Mays, Mickey Mann, Old Duke Snyder.

666
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: You know, it was just unbelievable players, iconic players in

667
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: the game of baseball. And I mean he was a

668
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: Giants fan. Willie Mays was his guy. But he still

669
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: remembers Mickey Mantle. And he said, everybody remembers Mickey Mantle.

670
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: As a power hitter, he could do everything. He could

671
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: throw a ball from the outfield and nail a guy

672
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: at home plate from four hundred feet in the outfield.

673
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: He could steal fifty bases a year if you needed

674
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 1: him to. I mean, power from both sides of the plate.

675
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: He was a switch hitter, just a five tool baseball

676
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: player at the elite level across the board. I mean,

677
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: and just crushed the baseball. I mean, they still talk

678
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: about the ball that he hit that almost went out

679
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: of Yankee Stadium. You know the famous facade that goes

680
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: around the top of the stadium. It went the same

681
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: way in the old stadium. He hit like three quarters

682
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: of the way up on that the ball. They estimated

683
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: the ball traveled five hundred and sixty five feet and

684
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: almost left the stadium. No one ever hit it out

685
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: of Yankee Stadium. He came the closest, and they claimed

686
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: the ball was still rising when it hit it, so

687
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: I mean just it's a shame too, because I know

688
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: anybody that lived through that era of baseball, We'll tell

689
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: you dollars to donuts. If he stayed healthy and took

690
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: care of himself because he liked the bottle an awful

691
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: lot too. If he stayed healthy and took care of himself,

692
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: he would have crushed Babe Ruth's home run record. Anybody

693
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: would have even been close. This guy hit five hundred

694
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: thirty six home runs without taking care of himself. Imagine

695
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: if he did, you know, and was disciplined about that

696
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: and didn't get hit by all those injuries. I think

697
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people feel he could have been the

698
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: greatest baseball player ever if he took care of himself

699
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: and was able to avoid injury. We're getting We're getting

700
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: a ton of calls. Everybody wants to chime in on this.

701
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: We'll take We'll take Randy, Randy run one Bill's Live.

702
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling you. You think Bo Jackson? Is that right? Yeah?

703
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: I took. I mean he's an amazing athlete. I'm fifty

704
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: five years old and I've never seen like him baseball

705
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: and football. With his speed, and then in baseball he

706
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: bare handed a ball from left field at the warning track. Yeah,

707
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: I remember that. I've seen that highlight. Harold what's his name,

708
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: Harold bay As I think it is. Yeah, a fast guy,

709
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: and he threw him off from from the outfield and

710
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: the warning track. It was unbelievable. Yeah, he was a

711
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: He was a brute. He was a complete freak. He

712
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: could run faster than anybody on the field. He was

713
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: he weighed two hundred and twenty five plus pounds um.

714
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: He was like a four or two or four guy. Yeah,

715
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: he could. And it was funny. I heard a story too,

716
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: because the Oakland Raiders back and that when he was

717
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: playing in the Earth late eighties, early nineties, and it

718
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: was my era. Uh, the Raiders had a lot of

719
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: pride in their heritage and this and the world championships

720
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: that they had won. And he they were standing there,

721
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: some of the old guys were standing out at practice

722
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: watching it, and they were all talking about who the

723
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: fastest Raider was, and they were you know, they had

724
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: all their names and stuff. And Bow was playing. Bow

725
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: came out and caught a little swing pass and took

726
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: off down the sideline in practice, right by those guys

727
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 1: and they all looked at each other again, they say, Okay,

728
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: who's the second fastest guy of all time? He was.

729
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: He was an unbelievable athlete at unbelievable instincts and in

730
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: a bunch of sports, a couple of sports. It's so

731
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: strong though, he was incredible fast, so strong. Yeah, yeah,

732
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call to him. That's that's great. Let's

733
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: go to guy was like a yetie. You know, he's

734
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: just like listen. He was a unicorn, don't He was

735
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: a one of a kind. And uh, you know, and

736
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: there's a there's so many guys on this litt Tim

737
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: from Clarence. Who do you think who would you like

738
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: to have had their career not cut short? Tim me there, yes,

739
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: go ahead, good. I think he's a sleeper for you,

740
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: one of the guys that kind of went on the

741
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: top of his game. And his brother's a Haffamers Sterling Sharp. Yeah. Yeah,

742
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: that's a name that came up when we were planning

743
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: for the show. He set records. He hit the triple

744
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: crown in football, if you don't know what that is.

745
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: A wide receiver catches yards and touchdowns in a season.

746
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: He led the league in those I was catching balls

747
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: from Brett Farve. He was. He was eight years into

748
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: his career, I believe, and he had a lot of

749
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: football left. He was a force, very strong receiver like

750
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: his brother Shannon, just really powerful. Shannon was an undersized

751
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: tight end. Sterling was an oversized strong wide out. And

752
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: he was a really really strong player, really good player.

753
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean, his last three seasons in the league, Steve

754
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: thirteen eleven and eighteen touchdowns. I mean, holy crap, Yeah,

755
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean he was putting. He was. He was in

756
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: his prime when it got cut short by that neck injury.

757
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: In his prime. Yeah. And it was one of those

758
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: things where it was tenosis I think it was tenosis

759
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: where they said he's too susceptible to injury and he

760
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: could keep playing, to keep playing, and he and he

761
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: took the advice of the doctors, and plus I don't

762
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: know that the club would have passed him on the

763
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: physical anyway. There have been a number of other guys

764
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Derek Burrows was a victim of that.

765
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: He got a big scare in a game in Houston

766
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: when I was with the team. He was my teammates,

767
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: a really good teammate. I love playing with him. Good

768
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: first round draft pick of the Bills at cornerback. Um.

769
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: And really they only get diagnosed with it after, you know,

770
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: they check you for something else. Um. And he got

771
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: a big scare. He got hit, went numbed down his

772
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: extremities and got it back in a few hours. But

773
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: that was it for him as well. So yeah, it happens,

774
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: and that's what I think. That's what happened to done

775
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: at age twenty nine, Sterling Sharp. Yeah, yeah, that's that

776
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: was a little too early. And we've got one another call,

777
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Zaire from Buffalo. Zaire, who do you think had their

778
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: career cut too short? All right? So I got about

779
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: four of them, all right. So one of them is

780
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: Tracy McGrady, okay, The next is Yellowmen yep, bad foot

781
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: injuries and ankle problems yep. The next one is Penny Hardaway. Lastly,

782
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: I'll say Sean Taylor. Sean Tyler is a good one too.

783
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah for football, that's a that's an excellent one. He

784
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: died all too soon. It was tragedy. Hey, Zire, thank you?

785
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: Anything else? What's up? I said? I was just saying

786
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: Tilly was like one of the heaviest hitters that I've

787
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: seen when I was, Yeah, one of my favorite players.

788
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: He was a really good player. You're right, and to

789
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: have him get be killed, uh in a in a

790
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: with a violent act. I mean, it's just armed robbery,

791
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: and armed robbery is horrible. I appreciate you. I mentioned

792
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: you brought him up. That's good. Thank you, Zire, thanks

793
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: for the call. He mentioned Tracy McGrady too, who was

794
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: like a phenomenal player right out of high school, went

795
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,959
Speaker 1: to the NBA and I mean, gonna be an All

796
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: star player for a long time, and then he has

797
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: to get microfracture knee surgery. Never the same. And I

798
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: gotta say, Steve, like we've seen guys come back to

799
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: play football for microfracture. Bruce had it. Bruce had microfracture

800
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: surgery and came back and kept playing. Um microfracture surgery

801
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: for NBA players. I just think it's all that impact

802
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: playing on a hard floor. It just I don't know,

803
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: a lot of guys just can't come back from that

804
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: kind of surgery. So, yeah, a good one. There definitely

805
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: a guy whose career got cut short because he started

806
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: when he was eighteen years old. NAMBA or what pro

807
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: athlete do you wish did not have their career cut short.

808
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,759
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Speaker 1: of the hour, Don Bby coming on with us, a

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Speaker 1: former great Buffalo Bill coach of a head coach of

812
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,759
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00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live steep task. Along with Chris Brown,

815
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 1: we're talking about pro athletes who had their careers cut

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00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: short for really any reason. And it's it's interesting to

817
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: think about all the all the aspects of this that

818
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: think you can go into. I mean you think about

819
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: even today we this came across and this is going

820
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: to be in the update as well. The Cincinnati Bengals

821
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: first round picks since two thousand fifteen their first years

822
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: Cedric Boyhe twenty fifteen, he missed eleven games with a knee.

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00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: William Jackson their two sixteen first round and draft pick,

824
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: zero games played, two seventeen, John Ross seventeen total snaps,

825
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: had zero catches as a wide receiver. Billy Price twenty eighteen,

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00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: six games he missed with a foot injury, and yesterday,

827
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams, twenty nineteen first round draft pick for the

828
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, out for the season with a shoulder. Yeah.

829
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: That's that's a rough track record. And you think I've

830
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: said it over and over again, and I don't know

831
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: that people understand the paradigm shift. Maybe they don't didn't

832
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: live it like I did for so long. It's a

833
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: complete paradigm shift the way they do things nowadays, or

834
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: at least this team does it nowadays in them in

835
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: this building. They built this someteen million dollar facility mainly

836
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: to keep guys healthy. Yeah, it's about recovery and maintaining

837
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: and getting back on the practice field so you can

838
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: play better in the game. They lost fewer man hours

839
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: per game. They've lost fewer man games to injury than

840
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: any team in the league last year. And that just

841
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: that was before this build. But that was the philosophy

842
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: behind this building. The philosophy behind this building was still

843
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: in the build was in here, and they got these

844
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: guys bouncing back and staying healthier than most of these teams.

845
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: Most of these teams. You know, there's you know, they're

846
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: still looking sideways at a guy because he's got a

847
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: black and blue ankle and he's getting nice on it.

848
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: They're like, you know, it's not tough enough. You know,

849
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: that's that's stone age attitude, right, Yeah, and there's still

850
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: teams to do it. They don't they don't spend any

851
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: time thinking about it. They gotta tape it up. You

852
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: can go. If you can go, you can. If you can't,

853
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: you can't. You know, they don't think about it. Yeah,

854
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: And there's you know, there's the science and technology element

855
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: to the whole thing too. I mean not just building

856
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: a state of the art weight room facility. It's about

857
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: some of those other things that they have, the cryotherapy,

858
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, the aquatherapy, there's a lot of stuff going on,

859
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: the hyperbaric chambers, you know, the oxygen rich environment that

860
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: they put players in so their body can recover faster,

861
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: because if you have a heavy oxygen rich environment, it

862
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: promotes healing that much faster. And you know, you talk

863
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: about players in professional sports in general, they're they're a

864
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: lot wiser than they used to be, and I think

865
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: they come to understand at an earlier age now that

866
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: your body is your livelihood quite literally. And a look

867
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: at Lebron James, I read a story about Lebron James.

868
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: I want to say it's about two years ago. Now.

869
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: He spends over two million dollars a year on the

870
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: care of his body between massage, therapists, hyperbaric chambers that

871
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: are wherever he is and whatever city he's in. He

872
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: sleeps in those things like regularly. I mean, you name it.

873
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: He's doing it to play as long as he's dry.

874
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: There's dry needle acupuncture, there's cryotherapy, there's red light stem

875
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: there's red light therapy, there's sleep deprivation, you know, float tanks,

876
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: you can use um. And it's not just about the equipment.

877
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: It's also having people who know how and when and

878
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: what they're for or who's the best candidate for them.

879
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: They are all about it's all about individuals. Yeah, taes

880
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: case by case basis UM and they are all about it.

881
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: And that's one of the that's one of the things

882
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: that you know may serve this team well as they

883
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: go forward. Oh well, let's get on with what pro

884
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: athlete do you wish not to have their career cut shore.

885
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break real quick at the top

886
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: of the hour, don beeby my buddies coming on. We

887
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: gotta ask him if he's got one right. And also

888
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: at the top of the there's a there's an article

889
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: on Buffalo bills dot Com fourteen questions with Bill's legend

890
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: Don Beebe, the head coach of Aurora College. Coming up

891
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: here at the top of the hour, we'll be back

892
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive.

893
00:46:54,360 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radiolils Radio Network Stories update. The

894
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: Savers announced the twenty nineteen Development Camp roster this morning.

895
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 1: Development Camp begins today and goes through Friday, the twenty eighth,

896
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: which includes on ice sessions that are free and open

897
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: to the public at Harbor Center. The French Connection Tournament

898
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: will highlight the final day of camp on Saturday, June

899
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, beginning at ten forty five, and that also

900
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: will take place at the Harbor Center. The Hockey Hall

901
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: of Fame class of twenty nineteen was announced yesterday. Gee Carbineau,

902
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: Hailey Wickenheiser, Sergey Zuboff, and Vaklov Nedamanski were selected as players,

903
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: and Penguins GM Jim Rutherford and longtime Boston College coach

904
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: Jerry York were elected as builders. These six will be

905
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: inducted into the Hall of Fame. November eighth, the Bengals

906
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: announced that their first round pack draft pick, left tackle

907
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams, will likely miss the entire two nineteen season.

908
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: Williams underwent left shoulder surgery yesterday to repair a torn

909
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: labor He's expected to make a full recovery. And the

910
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: Yankees said an all time major league record last night

911
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: in their four three victory over the Toronto Blue Jays.

912
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: On the sixth pitch, DJ I don't even who is

913
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: that who? We're looking at? This guy? What's the name?

914
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: Dj lemaheu aih, there you go? DJ lemaheu hit a homer,

915
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: marking New York's twenty consecutive game with at least one

916
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: home run. A total of fourteen Yankees have combined to

917
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: hit fifty one home runs during the streak, including multiple

918
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: player no including multiple homers in fourteen of those twenty

919
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: eight games. That's your twenty. That is your new sports update.

920
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: DJ lemahew Okay, I gotta get that right. Next hour,

921
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: All right, worst, please welcome back to one Bill's Live.

922
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: We're pleased to be joined by a good friend of

923
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: mine and a former teammate one of the all time

924
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: great Bills Legends, former wide receiver for nine seasons the

925
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: National Football leag with Buffalo and Green Bay. Played in

926
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo from eighty nine to ninety four Super Bowl thirty

927
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: one champ with the Packers played in six Super Bowls.

928
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: My friend, welcome, don beebe Beebs. How are you man?

929
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm doing well, Steve, how you doing? Man? Doing really good?

930
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: You're here with me and Chris Brown on One Bills

931
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: Live Aurora College heads coach. How does it feel? It's

932
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: been a whirlwind. Let me tell you the last five

933
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: six months. But I'm I figured by now I got

934
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: two jobs. It's a head football coach at the university

935
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: in recruiting coach, so it's two different seasons. But I

936
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: it's first go around for me in recruiting. I actually

937
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: love it. It's been a lot of fun traveling around,

938
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: meeting these kids and trying to get them to your school.

939
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: What don do you feel was the heaviest lift, Because

940
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: when you start a program, that's one thing, but when

941
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: you're a head coach at a college for the first time,

942
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: it's another. I mean, did you call Marv? Did you

943
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: seek any kind of advice? And what has been kind

944
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: of the heaviest lift in this building process. Well, it's

945
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: funny to say that because I remember, I would say,

946
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: over the last ten years decade or so, I knew

947
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: I was going to want to be more than just

948
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: a high school coach. Even though my years as the

949
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: high school coach were phenomenal and I loved every second

950
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: of it. I knew I was going to go to

951
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: the college a professional level. I didn't know where, but

952
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: I knew I was going to go there. So I

953
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: talked a lot of different friends that have coached at

954
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: all levels, professionally, collegiately in high school, and every one

955
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: of them says, the worst job you can have as

956
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: a head coach at a Division three program. I was like,

957
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: what are you talking about, he said, because it's a

958
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: lot of work. But I have found, actually, up until

959
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: this point, just the opposite. I absolutely love every second

960
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: of it. I think the university has been awesome to

961
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: work with and the kids that we have gotten our

962
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: high character kids. And that's the one thing that I've

963
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: learned from Coach Levy and Bill Poling and Jerry Butler,

964
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: guys like that. The one thing that those guys when

965
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: after first was character, and so I've learned a lot

966
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: from great men like Coach and I and I did

967
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: reach out to him and I did talk to him. Actually,

968
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: I just saw him at dinner the other night and

969
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: talk to him some more. And we're gonna go to

970
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: dinner here again July sixteenth, and I'll speak to him

971
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: some more. You know, Hey, listen, one thing I've learned

972
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: is when there's great men that know a lot more

973
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: than you, you picked their brains well. And I'm just

974
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: gonna I'm just gonna stand up for D three Nation

975
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: here for a second, because I was a D three

976
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: athlete myself. But you're gonna get kids. You know, there

977
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: aren't too many kids at the college level anymore that

978
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: play for the love of it, and you're gonna have

979
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: a boatload of them there because that's the kind of

980
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: kids you're recruiting. And I think it makes I mean,

981
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: I had friends of mine that played D one low

982
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: D one and the politics involved and whose favorite, who's

983
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: not a favorite, who's not playing because of this silly reason,

984
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: and who's getting announced it because of that? All of

985
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: that goes away a lot more at the D three level.

986
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you it's like the best four

987
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: years of my life playing D three college athletics. We're

988
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: we're talking with Don Beebe, a head coach of the

989
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: Aurora of the Aurora Spartans and also former Buffalo Bill. Don,

990
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: you started coaching people before football. It was about you

991
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: coached them in speed, the house of speed. You coach,

992
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: you coach my kids, You coach your own kids, Chad,

993
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: your son is now playing for the Minnesota Vikings, and

994
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: you coached even trained Tony Romo. I mean, so you

995
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: knew early on you wanted to be a mentor. How

996
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: much time do you spend now at this point it's

997
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: all about offseason stuff and mentoring these guys rather than

998
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: coaching them up on XS and os. Well, I mean

999
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: that's why coach, and I think a lot of coaches

1000
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: would say that. I mean a lot of people say

1001
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: that and don't really actually do it. But there are

1002
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: a lot of guys out there in women that coach,

1003
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: you know, women's sports. They do it for the right reason,

1004
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: and that's mentoring. And like you said, Steve, and I

1005
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: knew that this was my calling years ago. Even when

1006
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: I played, I knew I was probably going to become

1007
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: a coach. When I first retired in ninety eight, I

1008
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: was gonna I started the business, like you said, house

1009
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: of speed training athletes, but then it morphed into coaching

1010
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: because I got into coaching because it's more of intimate

1011
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: level House of speed. I train athletes and then they

1012
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: come and go. But man, coaching, you're involved with these

1013
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: kids on a daily basis and Division three level. Just

1014
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: like you said, Chris, I agree with you on these guys. Man,

1015
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: they're just good guys and that just love to play football.

1016
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: They're not being paid, they're not getting any scholarship or

1017
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: anything of that nature, so it has to be a

1018
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: passion and I have found that big time here at

1019
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: this school. So I you know, I'm looking forward to

1020
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: a great season. We've got I think we've recruited about

1021
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: we're going to give sixty five to seventy new recruits,

1022
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: and we're bringing a lot of kids with high character

1023
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: as the first thing that we looked for. And then

1024
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: when you're building something like this, you got to get

1025
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: a lay of the landscape. But I mean, I'm curious

1026
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: at the Division three level, what's the access because you

1027
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: want to get to know your conference opponents as much

1028
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: as you can. You know, how do you kind of

1029
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: study up on what to prepare for you know, as

1030
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: you say, been to that season? Well, I mean yeah, listen,

1031
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: XS and knows. I've believed this for a long time

1032
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: that XS and Knows really don't win football games. Guys.

1033
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: What wins is a is a guy or a woman

1034
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: whoever's coaching that team, the coach and the people running

1035
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: the organization that back you, and then that kid. Those

1036
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: kids absolutely look at the coach and say, we love

1037
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: this guy, and and that is what made up the

1038
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. I think in the nineties, we just loved

1039
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: coach Levy. We love playing for him, we love the organization,

1040
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: we loved everything about it. We loved getting up in

1041
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: the morning, going to work and working hard. And it's

1042
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: that in itself is what wins. Everybody runs the same plays,

1043
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: everybody runs the same schemes. It really doesn't matter. Get

1044
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: a kid to play at a higher level, that's what wins.

1045
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: We're talking to Don b before we're NFL player, former

1046
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills played in six Super Bowls with the Buffalo

1047
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: Bills and the Green Bay Packers and Beans. I gotta

1048
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: ask you the one thing that and it still happens

1049
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: to me today. I want to take it back. If

1050
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: you sit back and listen to this, We've got sound.

1051
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: We've got the radio call from the leon Let play

1052
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: that we're gonna listen. This is the Dallas Cowboys Super

1053
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: Bowl radio call of the play that really, uh, you've

1054
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: been living with for the past thirty years. And here

1055
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: it is raich on first down to throw pressure sacked

1056
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: by Jeff Bay had fumble. Had let there come to

1057
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: the door and going it's a fumble, It's a fumble.

1058
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: Head it knocked out of his hand. He was had

1059
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: held it out at the two yard lines, and from

1060
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: behind the Bills came and knocked it out of his hair.

1061
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be a Dutch downs, not don bhebe

1062
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: cut him from behind. And that play is one that

1063
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: you've lived with for long time. And and you know

1064
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: vicariously I have too. I've been congratulated on running leon

1065
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: Let down more times than I can imagine. I know,

1066
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 1: and I promised you a long time ago I wouldn't

1067
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: take credit for it, and I never have. But how

1068
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: often does that get brought up to you? Well? A

1069
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: couple of things. First of all, I take credit for

1070
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: all seven Pro Bowls that you were in. And secondly,

1071
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: I haven't heard I haven't heard that play since yesterday.

1072
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean every day I get a at

1073
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: least one fam mail letter that comes to my house

1074
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: that talks about that play. It's crazy. It's like, what

1075
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: twenty six years later and people every day still talk

1076
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: to me about that play. I've always said this, I'll

1077
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: never forget this. I remember it was just a beautiful

1078
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: day in Pasadena. This was the place growing up in

1079
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: the backyard of mom's house that I wanted to play

1080
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: Pasadena in the Super Bowl, right, And I'm there and

1081
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: I remember going out about an hour before the game,

1082
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: and I was just walking to the grounds and I

1083
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: went to the fifty yard line and knelt and prayed.

1084
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 1: And it was really short, simple prayer that I'll never forget.

1085
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: I said, I said, Lord, let me honor your name

1086
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: today more than ever, more than mine. And I got

1087
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: up and honestly, selfishly speaking, I thought I was going

1088
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: to score the touchdown to win it. I just knew it.

1089
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: I guaranteed it. Yeah, but no, but but but God

1090
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: gave me this, this this play. And I've always said

1091
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: this that when I stand on stages and I speak

1092
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: wherever it is. If I would have scored that touchdown

1093
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, how great that may have been.

1094
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: The people that are sitting in the audience couldn't relate

1095
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: to that. I mean, how many people can score touchdown

1096
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? But every person that I speak to

1097
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: can relate to the Leon Left play. Everybody, no matter

1098
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: what they do in life, men, women, little boys, little girls,

1099
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: they can relate to that play. I've never given up,

1100
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: and I can't tell you how much more happier and

1101
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: proud I am today at fifty five, fifty four years old,

1102
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: of that play than I would have if I would

1103
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: have scored the touchdown to win it. So John, you know,

1104
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of interpretations that are made. Some people say, well,

1105
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: Reich's already in the game. You guys are way down

1106
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard, and you still have the effort to

1107
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: make a play like that. That's why it's so recognized,

1108
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: while other people just say, no, it's just about never quitting.

1109
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: It's as simple as that had nothing to do with

1110
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: the score in the game. But I think, and and

1111
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: this has been referenced in a lot of the Bills

1112
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: specials that we've seen over the years about those nineties teams,

1113
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: that maybe that play might be the most quintessential representation

1114
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: of the resiliency of those teams. Where where do you

1115
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: stand on that? Yeah, well, I say two things. First

1116
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,959
Speaker 1: of all, the other night, when I was with Coach Levy,

1117
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: it was a Hall of Fame. You know, mister Baker

1118
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: was there doing the you know, he's a president of

1119
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He's there doing the banquet, and

1120
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: Marv got an award, and in that present when he

1121
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: got up and spoke when he received award, he actually

1122
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: said that you know this this play, don's play representative

1123
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: who we were as an organization and that team and

1124
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: all that. I will say this, Okay, I was just

1125
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: doing my job. I tell kids today that if you

1126
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: hustle and give it everything you've got, no matter if

1127
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: you win or lose, matter, no matter if you make

1128
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: a bad play or make a great play, you can

1129
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: live with the result if you just tried. And and

1130
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: so for me, I take no credit. I was just

1131
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: doing my job. It's people that my dad and my

1132
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: mom and the coaches that I had when I was

1133
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: young just taught me. I didn't know any better. You know,

1134
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't have time to stand there and think about, oh,

1135
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: should I run them down or not? No, you just

1136
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: go And I think because of that, I think how

1137
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: you react to something and coach, if you used to

1138
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: say this all the time, and Steve can can adhere

1139
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: to this is how you react to something in the

1140
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: game is really your true character and it happens in

1141
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: every game you play. We're talking with Don Beebe, former

1142
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo bill most widely and widely known for this play

1143
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: of running Leon let down in Super Bowl twenty eight.

1144
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: And I will go on record though, beabs. I was

1145
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: on the field and I was chasing him too, and

1146
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: I just couldn't catch him. So I just want you

1147
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: to know that. Well, I don't know about that, Steve.

1148
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: You were probably on the other side of the field

1149
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: and I was a decoy and I was running deep,

1150
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: so I was at you had a big head start

1151
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: on me, and I couldn't I could not catch him.

1152
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: But all right, let me talk to this. You played,

1153
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: you hold a record that is pretty awesome. You played

1154
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: in You're one of the few guys, maybe the only

1155
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: guy to play in six Super Bowls. Brady's got that now, right, Well,

1156
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's now play clash you, but you were at

1157
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: one time you'd played in six Super Bowls. You were

1158
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: owing four with the Buffalo Bills, one on one with

1159
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. You played with Brett Farve. It's

1160
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: famously when Brett Farve won his one Super Bowl. Yeah,

1161
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: he did the kneel down play, turned around and gave

1162
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: you the football. What do you remember about those days? Yeah,

1163
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: what happened there was I was a safety guy, which

1164
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: I believe you were when we played in Buffalo. I

1165
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: think you were that guy too, that was ten yards

1166
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: behind Jim right. Anyway, Um, you know it's here we are.

1167
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm finally gonna win this game, and I

1168
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: know it okay. And I'm standing ten yards behind Brett

1169
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: and we're just taking a knee and I'm looking up

1170
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: the clock and I'm watching the last ten seconds tick

1171
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: down and and I literally walked up to him after

1172
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: the game and I said, hey, Brett, I said, you know,

1173
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: is it possible? Can I have that ball? And he

1174
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: looked at me and he says, bees man, nobody deserves

1175
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: it more than you. And so I took the ball

1176
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: from him and I started walking over to where Diane

1177
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: and my wife and my tool, this chat and Amanda

1178
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: were and I gave them the ball in my jersey

1179
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: and all the stuff, you know. But I will say this,

1180
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: and I honestly can say this, My thoughts as I

1181
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: was walking over to my family was why me? I mean,

1182
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: why not? Why not Steve? Why not Jim? Why not

1183
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, Darryl Talley and Marvin Bill and in the

1184
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: and all the people in Western My thoughts went back

1185
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: to Western New York. I can honestly say that. And

1186
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: here I'm wearing a packer uniform thinking I really felt guilty.

1187
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: I was like, why, I mean, I don't deserve this.

1188
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot more people more deserving than I.

1189
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: Why meum? And so for me, it was kind of

1190
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: an emotional time of in for you that this. I

1191
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: felt great a winning it, But then at the same

1192
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: time I was kind of sad that that all my

1193
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: guys and friends and Buffalo was it with me? Because

1194
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: they deserved it as much as I, if not more. Yeah,

1195
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: now you mentioned your son Chad, who is having a

1196
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: heck of a spring in Minnesota. How weird is this

1197
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: whole football season going to be for you? Because you're

1198
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: gonna have your your teeth sunk into getting your program

1199
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: up and running. Yeah, while your son's trying to sink

1200
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: his teeth into getting his career up and running at

1201
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: the pro level. So how have you guys got a

1202
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: plan in place to kind of keep tabs on each other? Yeah?

1203
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: You know. Here, first of all, let me just say this, Um,

1204
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: it is way more heart wrenching and just emotional watching

1205
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: your kid. And it was as a player. I mean,

1206
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: as a player, it was nothing. Okay, I mean we

1207
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: played and it was great. As a parent in Steve

1208
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: can attest it's it's awful, but yeah, it's great at

1209
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: the same time. Um, you know, I knew last year.

1210
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: I took the year off coaching. Okay, I didn't coach

1211
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: at all, And I knew because it was Chad's rookie year.

1212
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: And it was also my two daughters senior year in

1213
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: college and senior year in high school. And they're both

1214
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: really good volleyball players. Um. In fact, my daughter graduate

1215
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: from college, I ended up being Lebaro of the Year,

1216
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: one of the top twenty five players in all of

1217
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: division too. Uh college volleyball. So she's a she's really good.

1218
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: So I got to travel a lot, and I got

1219
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: to see all Chad's games and my daughter's games. It

1220
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: was great. Me and my wife just loved it. Um,

1221
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: but I knew I was gonna get into coaching. I

1222
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: knew this was gonna be a little bit more of

1223
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: a struggle. But at the same time, I know that

1224
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: this is what I love to do, that's what he

1225
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: loves to do. I'll be able to see a few games.

1226
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,959
Speaker 1: I mean, Steve can attest. I mean, you know, he's

1227
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: he's had his job and he's missed some games with

1228
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: his boys over the years. Um, you know, but I'm

1229
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna catch a couple of games. I'm gonna

1230
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: get the Soldier Field game in and when he comes

1231
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: for the Bears, and and I'm gonna get one other game,

1232
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: and once my season ends, I'll be able to see

1233
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: the end of the year for the NFL. Yeah. Well,

1234
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: good and good luck to chat. I know it's he

1235
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: trained alongside my guys, or my guys trained alongside his

1236
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: and two of my boys, my two middle sons actually

1237
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: lived in your house for a couple of weeks while

1238
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 1: you trained them. And obviously it has earned you free

1239
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: Greens fees here in Buffalo whenever you visit. So but look,

1240
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: and I guess one thing. You look back and do

1241
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: you keep tabs on the guys you've trained at the

1242
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: House of Speed And obviously your son is You're you

1243
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: know you're gonna keep tab on on your son. But

1244
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: what you know other guys. I mean I mentioned earlier

1245
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: you trained Tony Romo when he was in college coming out,

1246
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: you trained him. I mean they've been You've touched base

1247
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: with a lot of guys who went on to be

1248
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: pro athletes. Um tell us a little bit. It helped

1249
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: you and that's how you got started. You trained yourself

1250
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: to be fast. You had this reputation of being fast,

1251
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: but you kind of made it known for everybody that

1252
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: if you want to get fast and you're willing to

1253
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: work hard, there's nothing stopping you. Yeah, you got I

1254
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: mean there's a cliche years ago and we started this business,

1255
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: what twenty one years ago, now twenty twenty one years ago,

1256
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: and the cliche was you can't teach speed. Well that's

1257
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: been proven wrong over the years because you can't train speed.

1258
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: Can I make every kid of four two forty four

1259
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: three four four? Of course not. You got to have

1260
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: some kind of genetics to get to that level. But

1261
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: every kid can get faster, and as you know, at

1262
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: all levels, that's a world of difference. You go from

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01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: a four eight to four to six, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: now you might you might get a chance of making

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01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: it at whatever level. That is Tony Romo. It's funny

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01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: you bring that name up because Tony was I think

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01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: the one ingredient that every pro athlete that I have

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01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: trained had the word called passion. And to me, what

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01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: passion is is when trained when nobody knows. I mean

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01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: a lot of kids, you know, they trained with mama dead,

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01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: tell him where the coach is there or whatever. But

1272
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: when a kid goes out there early in the morning

1273
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: or late at night or whatever it is, and he's

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01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: training by himself when nobody knows, that's passion. And that

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01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: was Tony. And Tony when he played at East Illinois,

1276
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: which is three hours fifteen minutes away from our training facility,

1277
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: that sucker would drive three times a week Monday, Wednesday

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01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: and Friday three and a half hours, pretty much trained

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01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: with me for two and turn around and drive back

1280
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: three times a week for months. That's crazy. Who does that? Right?

1281
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: The guy with passion and that was Tony. But yeah,

1282
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: I keep in touch with a lot of guys. I mean,

1283
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: you know when you touch a kids lives and I personally,

1284
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, the NFL guys and the pro guys are

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01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: great and the women that we've trained, but I really

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01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: liked the kids, man. I mean the kids this will

1287
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: see the gleam in their eye that you know they've

1288
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: reached something they never thought they could. Is real important

1289
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: for me as a coach and a mentor to these

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01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: young men and women now down. I don't want to

1291
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: put you on the spot here, but we are talking

1292
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: about an interesting topic here on the show today. We're

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01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: talking about sports athletes that you know, unfortunately had their

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01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: careers cut short, whether it was injury, some kind of

1295
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: tragedy or something. We've had a lot of interesting answers.

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Speaker 1: A lot of guys have childhood sports heroes who saw

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01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: their careers cut short. Um, I'm not I'm putting you

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01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: on the spot. I realized that. But is there one

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01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: athlete for you that comes to mind that you wished

1300
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: they could have seen their whole career through that Maybe

1301
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: you were a fan of or admired from Afar Well,

1302
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: I mean I think the guy that we played against

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01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: that had a tragic story that was cut short was

1304
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: Dennis Bird. I've got I knew Dennis. I did some

1305
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: event with Dennis and got to know him a little bit.

1306
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: He's just a great guy, you know. And and then

1307
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: his tragedy happened after I had I got to meet him.

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01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: I think it was at a Jeep Superstars competition that

1309
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: I did something with and uh in, just to see

1310
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: that was was tragic. Um. My hero growing up was

1311
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: Walter Payton, and so even though his career wasn't but

1312
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: his life was cut short. I was very fortunate to

1313
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: be able to train his son, Jared Peyton Um and

1314
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: so through that, you know, training my hero and growing

1315
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: up was kind of cool. But to see his life

1316
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: cut short was sad in itself too. I'll agree with that.

1317
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, Dennis Bird, he yeah, the neck he had

1318
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: the neck injury. He was apparently right, Yeah he was

1319
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: yeah he uh so, Beeb's what what's the next thing

1320
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: on the front burner of the head coach of Aurora College.

1321
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: What do you gotta get done today? Well, right now,

1322
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm working. I'm still working on my playbook, which is

1323
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: constant every day. I do something with it. And my

1324
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: even though my whole game plan is ready for Saint Norbert,

1325
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: who's a powerhouse program in Division three, and we got

1326
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: to take him in week one. Uh. You know, listen,

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01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm as a player, as a young man, a young boy,

1328
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: and now as a coach. My my goal is always

1329
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: whatever the top thing is to reach, that's my goal.

1330
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: And if it's the Stag Bowl in Division three, which

1331
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: is the ultimate game, and it's the super Bowl in

1332
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: the NFL, then that's what we're going to try to do.

1333
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: And uh. But but obviously we gotta we got to

1334
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: build character and these kids and get kids that have

1335
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: that character and and train really hard and work really hard,

1336
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: and hopefully one day we can do that. At AU,

1337
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: they've you know, um, we've never won a playoff game

1338
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: in the history of this school. I mean, we're going

1339
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: to try to tried to do that this year. M

1340
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: So that's our goal. But mainly we we just want

1341
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: to you know, uh disciple, that's so where do you

1342
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: want to use young men of character? And and that's

1343
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: gonna and to me, that's the most enjoyable. Don Beebe,

1344
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: former NFL wide out for nine seasons, played in Buffalo

1345
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: from eighty nine to ninety four, participated in six Super

1346
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: Bowls and was Super Bowl champion in Super Bowl thirty

1347
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: one with the Green Bay Packers. Biebes, thanks for coming

1348
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: on retally appreciate it. No as always, Steve, Thanks, Chris, Yeah,

1349
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: thank you. D three Nation represent man. All right, bye

1350
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: bye bye, all right, don Beebe. Thanks. It's great talking

1351
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: to him, and he and I've been friends for a

1352
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: long long time obviously, and I know his family and

1353
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: to hear him. He he went into the coaching realm early,

1354
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: and we had we had some laughs together. It was

1355
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: a great He was a great guy, great teammate. He

1356
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: made some iconic plays not only in Bill's history, but

1357
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: also in an NFL history with the leon Let play

1358
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: as well. Had a four touchdown game against the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1359
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: you know in the Orchard Park here and um just

1360
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: that's the game where Jim through six, right, Yeah, he

1361
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: had six in the games. One of those. So one

1362
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: of those days because behind the woodshed kind of game.

1363
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: To keep track of Aurora College now it's on the dock. Yeah,

1364
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: we got to keep them on our schedule and keep

1365
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 1: updating out. I love that he's that he's representing for

1366
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: D three Nation. You know, Fred Jackson was a big,

1367
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: you know, flag bearer for you know Division three athletes

1368
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: coming from Coke College, and you know he represented that.

1369
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: He actually had t shirts printed up that said D

1370
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: three Nation, and like he's handing him out. I'm like,

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01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: I'll take one of those. I'll represent because you know,

1372
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: I think, you know, you hear about all these politics

1373
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: and who's transferring here because they're not getting playing time

1374
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: at these major D one programs. I mean, I mean,

1375
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: I had a blast playing D three college athletics. One

1376
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: of my blast, one of my kids, played D three

1377
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: football at Case Western Reserve. He loved it. He loved it, right, yeah,

1378
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: and so and that's why you play. You play because

1379
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: you just want to play. It's not because you're on

1380
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 1: scholarship or whatever. And what Don Beebe does with a

1381
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: house of speed, let me tell you, let me give

1382
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: you the nuts and bolts of it. He trains these

1383
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 1: kids to be faster. They play better, they're faster. And

1384
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: when college you're going to recruit you that you know

1385
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: you run a forty or whatever, you cut two tenths

1386
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: of you're forty time off. It could be the difference

1387
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: between getting going to a Division three school or getting

1388
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: a college scholarship. You don't take on any student debt

1389
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: at all, whether you play or not. You're on scholarship.

1390
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: It means it could mean a couple one hundred thousand

1391
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: dollars in your pocket. You're going to an engineering school,

1392
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: like like my son went to a Division three school

1393
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: engineering school. It's real money through college. I mean, it's

1394
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: not like fairy tale money. It's not like federal grant money.

1395
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: It's real money. That's why my dad basically said, yeah,

1396
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: you're going to a state school. Right it affects your

1397
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: it affects your choices, and rightly so. But you're talking

1398
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: about a guy who could put you in a position

1399
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: where a coach and he goes, oh yeah, you're fast enough,

1400
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: you're you're in. You'll offer you all of a sudden

1401
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: you can go and you can go for free. And

1402
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: I thought he had a good choice for our topic today.

1403
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: Dennis Bird only played four years. I mean, he gets

1404
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: paralyzed by colliding with one of his own teammates, Um

1405
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, has the neck injury, gets paralyzed, and then

1406
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: he rehabilitates himself and does walk again, which was a

1407
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: triumphant finish to that, but then dies tragically in a

1408
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: car accident at age fifty. I mean just I mean

1409
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: that's just tough, tough, yeah, but good for him rehabbing

1410
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: back and you know, getting back, getting back on his feet. Yeah,

1411
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: you know, definitely inspirational for sure. But that was good. Hey,

1412
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean I put him on a spot with that.

1413
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: He came up with a good one. There. What pro

1414
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 1: athlete do you wish did not have their career cut short?

1415
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 1: You can call us at one eight eight five fifty

1416
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: two five fifty outside of Buffalo or eight h three

1417
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 1: h five fifty. We've got a bunch of calls waiting,

1418
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: kind of hang in there on the phone lines. We

1419
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: talked to Don Beeby at the top of this hour.

1420
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: Solomon Wilcox is gonna come at the top of the

1421
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: two o'clock how we're gonna talk to him as well.

1422
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 1: Stay with us. This is One Bill's Live presented by

1423
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: Collid to Health from One Bill's Drive and this is

1424
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live seeve

1425
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: task along with Chris Brown. We got this topic going today.

1426
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: Before we get back to that, I want to thank

1427
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: Don Beebe once again for coming on his head coach

1428
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: Aurora College. Yeah, he's great and spend his whole life

1429
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: since football mentoring kids coach him either in speed his

1430
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: House of Speed or in high school level. You'd want

1431
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: a couple of state championships at Aurora Christian. Uh, he's

1432
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: uh um. You know. Now he's a head coach at

1433
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: the Division three Aurora College and it's gonna be fun

1434
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: to keep track of that that program. And thanks to

1435
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: him for being on that. Yeah, it's not like he's

1436
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: not busy. That's why that's working on that playbook every day.

1437
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: I did not want to be a coach. I knew

1438
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: what would happen to me if I did, and I

1439
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: just didn't like it for what it would look like

1440
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: from Yeah, but I think he's doing it at a

1441
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: time where he feels he has the time to devote

1442
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: to it, right. I mean, his kids are out of

1443
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: all his kids are out of high school at the

1444
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: right level too. He did it at college. I mean

1445
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: it did at a high school level, and he hit

1446
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: his house was right there. He lived right there, so

1447
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: he didn't have to travel and all that, and plus

1448
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: he didn't have to recruit. I guess all that much

1449
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: in high school level no, and what's your furthest road

1450
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: trip twenty five minutes. You know, high school, everybody's in

1451
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: the same general area for the most part, unless you're

1452
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: out in real rural spots somewhere right. So thanks to

1453
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: Babes for coming on What pro Athlete do you Wish

1454
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: did not have their career cuts show? We're gonna a

1455
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: ton of calls, Brownie, let's start playing through his I

1456
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: gotta first of all, Kevin from Hamburg. I'm gonna go

1457
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: to you next. Thanks for hanging out. He's been on

1458
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: for fifty five minutes. How bold. I really appreciate Kevin.

1459
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for waiting this long. I hope you're

1460
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: still on the line. Stephen Chris on One Bill's Live,

1461
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: Who do you Got? I got two choices? One is

1462
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 1: Earl Campbell, Yeah huh, and the second is not famous

1463
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: but John Cappelletti, who his brother Joey died of cancer

1464
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: and it was in the story something for Joey's Yeah,

1465
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: John Cappelletti didn't have his his career cut short by injury,

1466
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: but that was a great TV program. He went on

1467
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: to play a little bit with the Rams and I

1468
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: don't know that he got his I don't remember him

1469
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: and his career being cut short by injury. I just

1470
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: think that and he peaked in college and that was

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01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: about it for him. But thanks Kevin Campbell campbells. I

1472
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: mean that's a good one. Knee surgery, spinal surgery. He

1473
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: had all those nerve issues. And to be honest too,

1474
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: post football too, he was probably overworked. I mean, oh,

1475
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, bump bump Phillips is like, give it to

1476
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: him again, give it to him again, give it to

1477
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: him again. I mean, why wouldn't you. I mean a

1478
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: guy had fourteen hundred and fifty yards his rookie year.

1479
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's just as a rookie. I mean, and

1480
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 1: he would just run over people. I mean there was

1481
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 1: not a lot of shifting and moving and avoiding hints,

1482
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. M third year, nineteen hundred

1483
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: and thirty four yards, MVP of the league. Second straight

1484
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: year he led the league in rushing and at that

1485
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 1: time only Jim Brown had done it before him. Um

1486
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: and then one of his nicknames and you might have

1487
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: known this, Steve, because I know you had a cup

1488
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: of coffee with Houston before he came up here, but

1489
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: he was called the one man demolition team. Do you

1490
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: recall that nickname at all? That's what they called him

1491
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: down there. A well, Kevin, and what else you got, Well,

1492
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: I won't the Saint rule passion about John Kemball. And

1493
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: he was he won the Heisman Trophy a Penn State

1494
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: so and he could have been the next Frank O'Hara

1495
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: because he was supposed to come after Frank O'Hara, but

1496
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 1: he gave his trophy to his brother and there wasn't

1497
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: a dry eye on the house, right. Oh yeah, well, thanks,

1498
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: I've remember seen film of that. Thanks Kevin, I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah,

1499
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: And I don't know that he was his career ended short,

1500
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: except that I don't know if he wasn't just good,

1501
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough at the next level? I don't know.

1502
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: Somebody should should know that. But he did have a

1503
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: nice TV program about him. He did win the Heisman

1504
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: Trophy for Joe Paterno. So you got that going for you.

1505
01:16:55,520 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: Let's go one more. Let's take another call. Um, you're

1506
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live. Who do you have as a

1507
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: pro athlete who had their career cuts too short? Hello?

1508
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: Is that me? Yeah? And if you're rich, you're the guy.

1509
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Rick, Rick, there you go. That's why he

1510
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: show guys. I'm giving a little love to females. I

1511
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: don't think any females have been mentioned. Jat No, they

1512
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: have not, And I think I got a tough one

1513
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: to beat. Monica Sellis. Na Sellis won nine Grand Slam

1514
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 1: tournaments before the age of twenty. She won eight out

1515
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: of the eleven Grand Slam so she played up to

1516
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: that time. And then her great rival, stephie Graff, a

1517
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 1: fan of hers, came out of the stands during a

1518
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: changeover when Monica Sellis's back was turned and stabbed her

1519
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: in the back. Right, that's right. She never was the

1520
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: same again. But had she stayed healthy, imagining that she

1521
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: had won all that time and was number one in

1522
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: the world at nineteen, who knows where she would have gone, right.

1523
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, she did make a comeback and did play

1524
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: for eight more years and actually won one more Grand

1525
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: Slam if I remember, right, because she won ten in

1526
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: her career. Um, yeah, no, no, she was not the

1527
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: same player, but the same but I think still widely

1528
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: considered one of the greatest female tennis players of all time.

1529
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: That's a great rich that's a great call, and you're right,

1530
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 1: think about that, or some lunatic jumping out of the stands, yeah,

1531
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: and stabbing her in the back because she's a fan,

1532
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: because he's a fan of the other opponent. Ridiculous, absolutely

1533
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: ridiculous world and that, you know, and and the other

1534
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: thing too and this I don't know. I'm not trying

1535
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: to be sophomoric when I say this, but when I

1536
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: think of Monica celle Is, the first thing I think

1537
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: of is that crazy noise she used to make when

1538
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: she hit the ball. Oh, she you know she made

1539
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 1: and that was that was because anytime you watch one

1540
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: of her matches, you were going to hear that about

1541
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty times. She she put everything into

1542
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: every shot. Well, she wasn't a big a big lady.

1543
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean she was. She was pint sized. I mean

1544
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: she's put a lot of power on the ball for

1545
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: not being I mean she was five seven maybe, yeah,

1546
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean Stephie Groff was like six foot one or

1547
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: six foot I mean she was as she was big. Yeah,

1548
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: you know Serena long live, you know, long arms. I

1549
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 1: mean she put a lot of power on it. Venus

1550
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: and Serena Williams were both big. Venus is like six two. Yeah,

1551
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: they're big girls. You know. She was not a big

1552
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: player in stature, but yeah she was. She was solid,

1553
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: all right. One more pro athlete whose career was cut short.

1554
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: We've got Mark in Amherst. Mark, who do you have

1555
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: for us? Is how you doing? Guys doing great? What

1556
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: they used a compliment? Steve uh I watched up for

1557
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen years as a season ticket older. It's not

1558
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: before Kelly and uh I. Uh I played hockey. One

1559
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: of the other guys that got me in the hockey

1560
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: I played Brownchito Brothers here in Amhurst. The guy that

1561
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: I think is really retired was Bobby or Bobby r Okay,

1562
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean he did play, he did have I mean

1563
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: he had a lot of knee surgeries. Yeah that I

1564
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: think a lot of knee surgeries. He railed his career.

1565
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: It's a good but oh yeah. But still in all

1566
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: he did play. I think he played eleven twelve seasons though,

1567
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean he kind of grinded his way through all

1568
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: those knee surgeries. And he's still I mean, after Gretzky,

1569
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: isn't he considered like maybe the next best player in

1570
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: hockey history. I mean, certainly the best defenseman of all times.

1571
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: He's one of the most recognizable names ever to play hockey,

1572
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: no question about it. But he had I want to say,

1573
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: a nine knee surgeries in his career, and that's career.

1574
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 1: That's probably the only reason he played eleven seasons. I mean,

1575
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: think about that. He played eleven seasons, had nine knee surgery.

1576
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: Pretty much get to the off season, all right, yep,

1577
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:36,560
Speaker 1: time to get the knee done again. Yeah, that's a

1578
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: rough off season, no question, by any standard. That's and

1579
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: I get it, hockey guys. Once you start getting injured,

1580
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 1: you start looking at it, and you start it starts happening.

1581
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: And he started getting known for that. But Bobby Or

1582
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: was an unbelievable talent. I still have old timers older

1583
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 1: than me saying, well, he was like, you know, I

1584
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: sold him short. He had twelve knee surgeries at the

1585
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 1: end of his career, and he played twelve seasons. I

1586
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: mean twelve knee surgeries and he played twelve season. He

1587
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: had a knee surgery every offseason. That's crazy, that is,

1588
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: how did he have anything left in there? What is

1589
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: the doctor working with? I mean I'm not a doctor,

1590
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 1: but I mean, maybe it's on both knees. Maybe it's

1591
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: half a dozen here, half a dozen there. I don't know,

1592
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: but that's way too many. That's crazy, that's way too many.

1593
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: You know, it is an insight. I'll set some of

1594
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: that something, particularly this case. In any more than any

1595
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: of the athletes we've spoken about up to this point,

1596
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: Bobby r is an example for people who don't play

1597
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: sports of the mindset that athletes have about how important

1598
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: it is for them to be out there playing. You're

1599
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: going to go through catastrophic knee surgery, and a normal

1600
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: person in whatever field, you just do something different, you

1601
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: get a different job. In sports. It's just one more challenge.

1602
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: He is, now, be all right, I'm gonna come back.

1603
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: You just take it for granted. It's not even part

1604
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: of a it's not even a question as to whether

1605
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: you're going to try and come back, not even a question.

1606
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 1: And in all good sense, when you get if you

1607
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 1: stick your hand on a hot stove, you don't put

1608
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,560
Speaker 1: your hand on a hot stove anymore. Athletes aren't like

1609
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: that for whatever crazy reason, that just keep going back

1610
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: and then oh, I got another knee surgery. All right,

1611
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 1: we'll fix this one. I know exactly what to expect

1612
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: on the rehab. You know what I'm saying. I know

1613
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: what you're saying. When you say it in terms like that,

1614
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: it sounds absolutely insane, but that's where athletes sit now.

1615
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: We had, you know, or is probably I think that's

1616
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: the first hockey player we've had today. Of all the

1617
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: calls we've had, first hockey player the name that I'm

1618
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 1: surprised we haven't heard yet. And maybe it's because again,

1619
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 1: here's an example of a guy who had probably about

1620
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: a good ten year career, but his career was cut

1621
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 1: short by concussions. Pat Lafonte. I mean Pat was still

1622
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: putting up major points, you know, and then got the

1623
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: terrible concussion here to the credit, and they missed the year.

1624
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: The Sabers would not clear him to play hockey. He

1625
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 1: went to the Rangers, the Rangers and one more concussion

1626
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: was done right, played a year there and then that

1627
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: was it. And growing up an Islanders fan, I remember

1628
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: him playing for the Islanders as a young kid and

1629
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: playing really well, like super creative, exciting player to watch.

1630
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: Not a big guy by any means, but who knows

1631
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: where he would have ended up in the final, you know,

1632
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: point totals in NHL history if he could have hung

1633
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: on for another two or three years, you know, and

1634
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: everybody here remembers la Fontaine Mogilney. I mean everybody remembers

1635
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 1: that combination. That that's a combo that will go down

1636
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: in history, not only in Buffalo Sabers history, but in

1637
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: NHL history for sure. And another guy that comes immediately

1638
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: to lead of mine when I think about hockey and

1639
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: concussions is Eric Lindross. Yeah. I mean that guy was

1640
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: the guy six five, guy that could skate like the wind,

1641
01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 1: and I mean was just a powerhouse. And concussion prematurely

1642
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 1: ended his career. I mean he had other injuries, but

1643
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 1: what I think he only played eight years? Yeah, after

1644
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: holding out he didn't want to play for Hartford and uh,

1645
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: you just sat, wouldn't do it. I got one thing

1646
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: and listen to this one and this is uh from

1647
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: from Twitter from Brahm Diddrick, And this is a great one.

1648
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: I would love to have seen Drew Bledsoe finished his

1649
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: career in New England. Healthy might has saved us all, yeah,

1650
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: some pain by by getting stuck with Lewis, by getting

1651
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: stuck with his backup for nineteen years. Damn you mo Lewis. Yeah,

1652
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 1: if Drew Bledsoe stays healthy in New England, maybe we

1653
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: never even see mo Lewis was the guy that hit

1654
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: on breave it to the Jets to screw something up

1655
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: for us. There you go. Yeah, that was that's an

1656
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: interesting you know. Another one here and this is another

1657
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: one Um from Rick on the tweet sheet brought to

1658
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems. He says, my pick was

1659
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson, but another would be another one. That's another

1660
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 1: guy that lost his life, Dale Earnhardt. See, oh yeah,

1661
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: he was winning Winston Cups back then, or what were

1662
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: they called then? They still called Winston Cup. Maybe they

1663
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 1: were racing. He said, slowly has changed after he has

1664
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: passed away. And you know that's it. That even that

1665
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: that was right in my I mean NASCAR, remember, I

1666
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: don't know how many years ago they were. They were

1667
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,919
Speaker 1: really gaining some notoriety. They really had some stars as drivers,

1668
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 1: Um and Dale Earnhart, led by Dale Earnhardt Senior. And

1669
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: when he when he died the way he did on

1670
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: the track. Yeah, there's a huge void left there. Not

1671
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: just a void, but it was what was he called

1672
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: the intimidator. Right, all of a sudden, it was like,

1673
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you forget Here's because they make those cars.

1674
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're wrapped in this cocoon, but they're

1675
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: going two hundred miles an hour. They could die. But

1676
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I think the thing that was so

1677
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: shocking about that was the crash. By crash standards seemed

1678
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: rather innocuous, ye didn't it Like we've seen these horrific

1679
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: crashes where cars are spinning in the air, spinning and

1680
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: flipping fifteen times and the guy walks out. This guy

1681
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 1: goes i think broadside to broadside on one car gets

1682
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: fish tailed from behind and then hits the wall head on.

1683
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: But the car doesn't flip. It's not spinning around. It

1684
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 1: wasn't going one hundred and ninety eight miles an hour.

1685
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: It just stopped. And I think people looked at that

1686
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: crash in comparison to so many other wrecks that they've

1687
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 1: seen over the years, and they said, oh my god,

1688
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: how did he die from that? Right? You know what

1689
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 1: I mean? But I think, as you said, I don't

1690
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: think the speed is fully appreciated, especially when you're watching

1691
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: it on television for sure. I mean you can't. It's

1692
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: not as real as to when you're at the track

1693
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: and you blink and the guys on the other side

1694
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: on the backstretch and you're like, what the heck just

1695
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: happened there? What pro athlete do you wish to not

1696
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 1: have their career cut? Shirt? Will take some more calls

1697
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: if you like eight or three oh five fifty or

1698
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Coming up

1699
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. Solomon Wilcox. He played

1700
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: safety in the National Football League for six seasons. He

1701
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 1: works for NFL or for Pro Football Focus as an analyst.

1702
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to him as well. Stick with us

1703
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive.

1704
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One

1705
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown, we're having

1706
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: this topic today, what pro athletes do you wish did

1707
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 1: not have their career cut short. I've got a ton

1708
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: of names, so a lot of good answers today. If

1709
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna come up with a new one,

1710
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: you might be hard pressed to do that, but we'll

1711
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: be willing to this is one surprising one that hasn't

1712
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: been mentioned yet. And I'll wait a little longer. All right,

1713
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: let's let's go. We're gonna take another We're gonna take

1714
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: a phone call from Merrill in Amherst. Meryl, you're on

1715
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: one Bill's Live with Stephen Chris. Who do you have

1716
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: whose career was cut short? I have Davey help. He

1717
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: was only like I think he was around twenty eight.

1718
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: He was thirty two. Yeah, yeah, when he died in

1719
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: the plane crash. And no, he really was doing well

1720
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: up to that point. You're right, Marylyn, thank you for

1721
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 1: the call. You're exactly right. Day. Davy Allison was thirty

1722
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 1: two years old, NASCAR dri RASCAR driver. He died in

1723
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 1: actually a helicopter crash when he was headed to check

1724
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: out a family friend and they were tested at a racetrack.

1725
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: He was trying to land a helicopter. They crashed at

1726
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: the track. The other person that was with him, a

1727
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: guy named Red Farmer, recovered from the crash, but it

1728
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: took him a long time, and Davy Allison was declared

1729
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 1: dead after never regaining consci and the shame of it

1730
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 1: was his career. He was, As our caller said, was

1731
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: just taken off because he won the Winston five hundred

1732
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: three times in ninety one, he was the Winston Cup winner,

1733
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,759
Speaker 1: Winston Cup winner in ninety two, won a bunch of races,

1734
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: including the Daytona five hundred in ninety two. And then,

1735
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean, a NASCAR driver of all things, dies in

1736
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: a plane and a helicopter crash. I mean, it's a

1737
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: dangerous sport, you know the risks involved, but I don't

1738
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: think you're expecting a helicopter crash to take you from

1739
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 1: this earth. I mean, that's just that's tragic, Yeah, especially

1740
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: when the guy was clearly entering the prime of his

1741
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: racing career. He won the Yeah, he went to won

1742
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: the Winston five hundred once, He won the Coca Cola

1743
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: six hundred four times, the Daytona five hundred and ninety two,

1744
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: he was the Winston winner in eighty four, the Arca

1745
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 1: Talladega Supercar Series. He was a really good race car driver,

1746
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 1: son of Bobby Allison. So yeah, and he was the

1747
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 1: oldest of their four children and he passed away. That's

1748
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: a good call, meal, I think. And now let's take

1749
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 1: let's try another one. Let's take a We've heard this

1750
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 1: name before from Joe in Milwaukee. Joe, I know you've

1751
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: got a name that you're gonna tell us, but we've

1752
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: heard it before. But who Why do you think your

1753
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: guy is the the pro athlete to use career whose

1754
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: career you wish was not cut short? Well, just for me,

1755
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: it's because quite frankly, I'm a dick fan of like

1756
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: freek athletes, you know, whether it be like a Ted

1757
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Washington in the middle because he was huge and stuff

1758
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: like that. But Yamming Man, he was so big and

1759
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: like he was just coming into his prime before he

1760
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: got hurt. And that's kind of makes it sad, you know,

1761
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: But sometimes you see a guy come into a league

1762
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 1: and he gets hurt before he even gets started. But

1763
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: like Yaoming was ready to be like a prime time

1764
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 1: like basketball, and he was in China. It was so

1765
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: good for like internationally and all that was just it

1766
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: was a female. Yeah, he had to retire before he

1767
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: turned thirty, right, And his problems were all in his foot.

1768
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 1: He had stress fractures all the time and then and

1769
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: that creeped up his foot into his ankle. Overcompensating for

1770
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: the fracture that he kind of changed the way he

1771
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: ran to try to avoid fracture and all kinds of

1772
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 1: orthodics they used to try to fix his problems. But

1773
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: that's the problem with those big guys. You know, he's

1774
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 1: seven foot six and he's playing on a hard floor.

1775
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 1: He's jumping all the time. I mean eventually, you know,

1776
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: when when you're that tall and you're playing under that

1777
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of weight and that kind of stress, sometimes the

1778
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: joints and the feet just can't handle it. Bill Walton

1779
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: had the same problem. You know, he was a leaven footer.

1780
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: Now he grinded out a twelve thirteen year career, but

1781
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: he had all kinds of foot problems. Yea, and those

1782
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: big guys have a tough time. Think about this, yao.

1783
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: Ming's he has been retired for quite some time. He's

1784
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 1: not he's not even forty yet. No, he's retired at

1785
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Yeah, he desired. He'd retired all too soon.

1786
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: I remember this. Um. I don't watch very many NBA

1787
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: games because obviously they don't play in Buffalo. Um I

1788
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,799
Speaker 1: got a chance when I was doing a game in Miami.

1789
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it was the Super Bowl, one of the

1790
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 1: Super Bowls I did with the Bears and the Colts.

1791
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: Somewhere around there, Yao Ming was playing, and I got

1792
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 1: they were playing the heat. Shack was playing against Yao Ming,

1793
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: and we had seats under the basket. I could not

1794
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 1: believe what I saw. What did you see? Yao Ming's

1795
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 1: from his knee down to his foot was the size

1796
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: of a folding chair. The guy was an unbelievable genetic freak.

1797
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: And Shack was the same way. Shack was seven one

1798
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: three twenty and didn't look fat. I could not believe

1799
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 1: what I was looking at. So these guys to behemoths.

1800
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 1: To not be able to see those guys for their

1801
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: entire career, yeah, that is a tragedy because they were

1802
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 1: They were really special. It was a fun game to watch,

1803
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: and if you think about it, we've had both guys

1804
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 1: who were on the scene. They were teammates whose careers

1805
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,759
Speaker 1: were both cut short by injury. Who were mentioned Yaming

1806
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: and Tracy McGrady. Yeah, both of those guys had careers

1807
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 1: cut short by injury, and they were on the same

1808
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 1: team at the Rockets coming up at two o'clock. Solomon

1809
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 1: Wilcox played safety in the National Football League for six seasons.

1810
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: He's with Sky Sports and Pro Football Focus and He's

1811
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: also a former NFL CBS color analyst in the booth.

1812
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: Come back and We're gonna talk to him about his

1813
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 1: film study of Tradevious White. This is One Bill's Live,

1814
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 1: presented by Khalid to Health from One Bill's Drive. This

1815
01:32:47,800 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio Bills Radio Network short Stop. Dame

1816
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Sabers Development Camp began today and goes through Friday the

1817
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: twenty eighth, which includes both off ice and off on

1818
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: ice sessions. The on ice sessions are free and open

1819
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: to the public at Harbor Center. The French Connection Tournament

1820
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 1: will be the highlight of the final day of camp

1821
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: on Saturday, June twenty ninth, beginning at ten forty five am,

1822
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 1: and it will also take place at the Harbor Center.

1823
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 1: The Hockey Hall of Fame class of twenty nineteen was

1824
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 1: announced yesterday. Guy G. Carbino, Hailey Wickenheiser, and Sergey Zooboff

1825
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 1: and voklov Nebadanski Nedamanski were selected as players, and Penguins

1826
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: GM Jim Rutherford and longtime Boston College coach Jerry Yorke

1827
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 1: were elected as builders. The induction is on November eighth.

1828
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 1: The Bengals announced that their first round draft picked left

1829
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 1: tackle Jonah Williams will likely miss the entire two nineteen season.

1830
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 1: If Williams underwent left shoulder surgery yesterday to repair a

1831
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: torn labram, He's expected to make a full recovery. And

1832
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays and the Yankee are currently playing

1833
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: in New York. The Jays are up five to one

1834
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: in the bottom of the second. The Yankees just extended

1835
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: their streak of consecutive games with at least one home

1836
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: run to twenty nine when Deed Gregarious Gregorius hit a

1837
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 1: homer on a fly ball to center field. That is

1838
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: your sports update. We are pleased to be joined by

1839
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: one of my good friends in the broadcast to Ria,

1840
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: real colleague of mine, a guy who have shared the

1841
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 1: sidelines with played safety in the National Football League for

1842
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: six seasons. He's also with Sky Sports and Pro Football

1843
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 1: Focus as an analyst. Please to welcome join us now,

1844
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 1: Solomon Wilcox. Solomon, This, Steve Tasker and Chris Brown here

1845
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Thanks for getting with us. Steve, great to

1846
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: be on with you and how you been doing. My man,

1847
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: do you take good care of yourself? I'm getting treated

1848
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: better than I deserve to be. Sally to be very honest,

1849
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: to be completely honest with you, everybody should be me.

1850
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:58,600
Speaker 1: Everybody should be me. So you're doing some work with

1851
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus and did some work on our guy,

1852
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: t Davious White. What do you think of him? You know,

1853
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 1: we're really high on him. You know, his rookie year,

1854
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 1: he grated out higher and he did last year. And

1855
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: you know how it is when you come in as

1856
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: a rookie, you kind of get away with some things

1857
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: because people have an established you're tremings. They haven't gotten

1858
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 1: a whole lot of tape on that. And in that

1859
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: second year, teams start to dial in, when teams within

1860
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 1: your division. And what we found out is that he

1861
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 1: gave up a few more plays in the second year,

1862
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 1: but he still as a competitor. The guy will sit

1863
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 1: up route, he'll fit, he'll be aggressive up the line

1864
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: of scrimmas. However, in twenty eighteen, teams kind of saw

1865
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: that he's not gonna turn the hips, he's not gonna

1866
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 1: open and run with you. So a team started giving

1867
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: him the double moves. He started sitting them down and

1868
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: taking him up top a little bit. They gave up

1869
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: maybe a few more plays than he did his rookie year.

1870
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 1: But I love of the sure competitiveness. Yeah, I mean

1871
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: he there aren't too many number one assignments that would

1872
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 1: give him fits. AJ Green is probably the exception because

1873
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: he's played him twice in his first two seasons and

1874
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 1: AJ was able to get over on him. Is there

1875
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: anything you were able to kind of pull from you know,

1876
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 1: maybe the tape that you looked at that that made

1877
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: AJ so much more effective than a lot of the

1878
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: other guys that go against Trey. It was a double move, okay,

1879
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 1: Damman to a stimm Amen side and he saw I

1880
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: think I think AJ just did a better job of

1881
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 1: studying to Davia's white. And you know, Todavia's white is aggressive.

1882
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 1: He's gonna take that first move and he's got to jump.

1883
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 1: If you notice, he makes a lot of plays on

1884
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 1: the underneath route. Now you've got to understand that's really

1885
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: good for a young corner because because most young corners

1886
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: they don't want to allow receivers to get close. In fact,

1887
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 1: they tend to give up more cushion or right, he

1888
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 1: eats up a cushion, he shrinks it down. He will

1889
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 1: jump that first move, and he tends to make a

1890
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 1: lot of plays breaking up a lot of past plays,

1891
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 1: you know, those underneath route. But a guy like AJ

1892
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 1: greens has had a really good way of stemming him

1893
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 1: one way and getting White to bite. And didn't he

1894
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 1: just slip out the back door? He was on top

1895
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: of him. You remember he gave us some big time

1896
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 1: plays to AJ Greene and that was because of the

1897
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 1: double move. What do you think of the next step

1898
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 1: is for Trudavious White? I mean, does he get less aggressive?

1899
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 1: How do you how do you come back that you

1900
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 1: played safety in the NFL? You know what it's like

1901
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: to be you know, you've seen a ton of great corners.

1902
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 1: What's you know? How does the corner? How the corner?

1903
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 1: How does the corner find out when not to bite

1904
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 1: on that double move? I think you know basically when

1905
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 1: you're a man to man covered first of all, if

1906
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 1: you can't he threw the man to the quarterbacks, then

1907
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: I still think you a ways to drive to the man,

1908
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: but you have to drive at an angle where when

1909
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 1: that receiver tries to get past, he literally have to

1910
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 1: run into you. Steve, you play the wide receiver position.

1911
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 1: Some guys were really good at stacking on top of

1912
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 1: the receiver so that even if you try to slip

1913
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 1: past him, you end up running into him, are tripping

1914
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 1: over him. And as you know, the rules stays that

1915
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 1: the receiver it is his job to avoid contact with

1916
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 1: the defensive back. When the defensive back sort of like

1917
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,640
Speaker 1: in basketball, if he's standing right there in front of you,

1918
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: he can take a charge. So if you run into him,

1919
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 1: that's offensive past interference. So I think he's just got

1920
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 1: to do a better job of leveraging through the receiver

1921
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: as he's closing in to make a play on the ball,

1922
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 1: as he's cutting down that cushion. He's just got to

1923
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: stay in a much better position where he don't allow

1924
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 1: the receivers to slip through if the ball is not

1925
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,839
Speaker 1: coming out of the hands of the quarterback. So Solomon's

1926
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 1: let's flip it over for the Bills to the offensive

1927
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 1: side a little bit. Obviously, that's where most of their

1928
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 1: new editions have come from this off season, in both

1929
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 1: free agency and to a certain extent, the draft. All

1930
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: obviously trying to help quarterback Josh Allen in year two.

1931
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 1: Which offensive addition do you think can really pay dividends

1932
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 1: early and often for for for Josh Allen and the

1933
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: offense as a whole. Well, you know, I like Tyler Croft.

1934
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: You know, I know that there's an injury there. Yeah. Uh,

1935
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know I really like him. I mean,

1936
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: he came on big time in Cincinnati, and I thought

1937
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 1: he would be huge. But I think, you know, you

1938
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 1: look at John Brown and his ability to get deep

1939
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 1: and get vertical, there's no doubt. I think it's a

1940
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: good match with the arm strength of Josh Allen. But

1941
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 1: on a consistent basis, I'm a big believer in kobe'sley.

1942
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I could just tell you I saw I

1943
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 1: win a game to the Cowboys, um at you know,

1944
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 1: at MetLife in New York towards the end of the

1945
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 1: season where he literally just know he can wheel. He

1946
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: has that way to just wheel himself open and cast

1947
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:10,679
Speaker 1: the ball in a crowd on third down. Christal red

1948
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 1: zone possessions. If you talk about offense staying on the field,

1949
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 1: talking about a quarterback improving his completion percentage in terms

1950
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 1: of making critical throws at critical moments, that I think

1951
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 1: without the tight end, without a Tyler Croft, that's where

1952
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley becomes more important. With all the guys you've mentioned,

1953
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 1: Tyler Croft, John Brown, Cole Beasley plus the offensive line editions.

1954
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 1: Have the bills done enough to help Josh Allen I

1955
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 1: think you know we're gonna find out, but I mean,

1956
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 1: on paper, it looks like enough. The offensive line is

1957
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: critical because I believe is Dave McCoy and Frank Gore

1958
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 1: as a combo. One guy is mister inside right, one

1959
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 1: guy is mister outside you and I know same. He's

1960
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 1: trying to hit the edge man, he's trying to get

1961
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: to the out. I still think he's so good at

1962
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: making that first unblocked defender miss. So this offensive line

1963
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 1: don't have to block them all with a guy like

1964
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:12,799
Speaker 1: Sadie McCoy. With Frank Gore, he goes about it look differently.

1965
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 1: He's just overwhelmed tacklers. I mean he's one of the

1966
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 1: running backs in this leave that most defensive players do

1967
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: not look forward to trying to tackle. Frank Gore as

1968
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: playing simple as that, So he breaks tackles as well

1969
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: as any running back, even at this age that this

1970
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: tenure of his career. And so if they're they're just

1971
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: effective running the ball. And I think the son of

1972
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 1: make as you will know, Josh Allen atlas better. So

1973
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: I help the offensive line because you get more play

1974
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 1: action opportunities. You're looking at third medium as opposed to

1975
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 1: third and long and get the ball out of a

1976
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 1: lot faster. So I believe they've done enough. But you

1977
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: tell me how effective both running backs are behind this

1978
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 1: offensive line, and I think that will determine just how

1979
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 1: effective got Allen is going to be able to be

1980
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: behind this offensive taking that running back duo a step further, Solomon,

1981
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 1: and you know, I know your PFF guys crunched these

1982
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: numbers all the time. We were Steve and I were

1983
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: actually having this debate the other day on the show

1984
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 1: about how the playing time is going to break down.

1985
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Lashawn is clearly still the feature

1986
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 1: back here. You know, Frank played a backup role in

1987
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 1: Miami last year. You got thirty six percent of the

1988
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: snaps last year in Miami behind Kenyan Drake. I mean,

1989
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: I could you. I mean, we know Lashawn's thirty one,

1990
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 1: we know Gore's a seemingly agel is thirty six. What

1991
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 1: do you see the breakdown being somewhat similar to that?

1992
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 1: Maybe a sixty thirty six and maybe a little bit

1993
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 1: for Devin Singletary on the side sixty forty and I

1994
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: think as the season goes on, you get into cold

1995
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,759
Speaker 1: weather game, as soon as you're going up against New England,

1996
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: who do you think is more effective against you know,

1997
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: three fourth team where you're not going to be able

1998
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 1: to get wide and you've got a stand in there

1999
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 1: or not to keep off the ball hammer away with Frank,

2000
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 1: I think I just think it's a better fit. You

2001
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: tell me the opponent, and then I'll tell you who

2002
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,759
Speaker 1: who's the guys getting the lions here of a cherry

2003
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 1: on that particular day. I do believe as this thing

2004
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 1: plays out, I think if they went into sixty forty

2005
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 1: Shady sixty forty Gore, I guarantee here you know, um

2006
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: coach McDermott would tell you that they'd be pretty happy

2007
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 1: with that. So I think i's it turned out to

2008
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 1: be that way. I think the author helped Sady stay

2009
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 1: healthy for the duration of the season. Speaking of staying

2010
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: healthy and sticking with the running back, there's a running

2011
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: back position. There's been a Todd Gurley in LA. It's

2012
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 1: come out that you know, he was struggling with a

2013
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: knee and Drew we knew that last year. Now it

2014
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: seems to be a deterioration and arthritick knee um and

2015
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 1: it looks like he may go the way of Terrell

2016
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: Davis and other backs like a GAYL. Sayers, guys who

2017
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 1: have you know, had their careers cut all too short

2018
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,919
Speaker 1: because of it. How I mean, you know how dangerous

2019
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 1: is Is that a real concern in LA? Is it?

2020
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 1: Is it going to be a reality? Firstial disclosed. I'm

2021
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: not a doctor, but Steve, as you well know, I

2022
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 1: do a lot of work with biotech and biopharmaceutical companies

2023
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 1: and you've been graces enough that in your time to help,

2024
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 1: let's get the word out and message out about a

2025
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 1: lot of different treatments. But you know, and working and

2026
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 1: talking with a lot of orthopedic specialists, what we've come

2027
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:35,719
Speaker 1: to know is that after you undergo, say a surgery

2028
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 1: for apl which is what Gurley had when he was

2029
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:42,640
Speaker 1: at George, almost in every case you also have some

2030
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 1: cardalists damage. So there's going to be a need to

2031
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 1: go back in and maybe clean up some of the

2032
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 1: dead tissue. And you only can go in so many

2033
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:56,600
Speaker 1: times to remove the dead tissue that is cardalista. You

2034
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 1: get to the point where there's no cardalst left it's

2035
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 1: your bone on bone. Now you can still play with

2036
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: that because you have such strong muscles, the thigh muscles,

2037
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 1: hamstrings need can be very slow and it's gonna be

2038
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 1: stable because the nucl is feeled. But one wrong move, run,

2039
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 1: wrong tackle, it can set you back. And I think

2040
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 1: that's what we saw at the end of the year.

2041
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 1: After that Staggle game, he wasn't quite the same. Came

2042
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 1: back to the Dallas game, played good head a hundred yards,

2043
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 1: but then after that not able to come back. That's

2044
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 1: what you get when you're in what we call the

2045
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: diseased state, when you have chronic problems with bone on bone,

2046
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 1: maybe even a bone cruise, or you're not able to

2047
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 1: bounce back the next week. It is so the fluctuations

2048
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:45,679
Speaker 1: between being able to play not being able to play

2049
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: the dual swing drastically from week to week depending on

2050
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 1: how he feels. But to say that that knee is

2051
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: in a diseased state, that's an understatement because that's where

2052
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: it is right now. And this is just my nion

2053
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 1: just based on what we know. I think it's going

2054
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 1: to be a week two week basis. One week you

2055
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: will look really good and we're like Okay, we've got

2056
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley back and the next week got to be

2057
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 1: underused or maybe not as effective, and just get used

2058
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: to that. That's what you're gonna get. So Salomon, you

2059
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 1: know you mentioned your work with bio pharmaceutical companies. Why

2060
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:25,600
Speaker 1: don't you just kind of share. I know April was

2061
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 1: National Minority Health Month, and that's kind of when your

2062
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 1: program took went front and center with an educational campaign.

2063
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: But why don't you just share with our audience your

2064
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 1: Sideline sickle cell program. Yeah, Sideline sickle sale campaign is

2065
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:45,759
Speaker 1: really about highlighting sickle sale disease with the effects mostly

2066
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 1: minority population, and that's why Minority doth Month was a

2067
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 1: time to kick off that campaign. And what happens is

2068
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 1: this genetic disease. That's where you're there. Let's sales, they're

2069
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: not safe like around this, but there's like affected moon.

2070
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 1: Imagine those blood cells that sits like suppressed loom with

2071
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 1: those sacked edges. Those cells are moving through your veins

2072
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:13,640
Speaker 1: and ottery and imagine it's pretty thing. The lining of

2073
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 1: the wall of the artery or veins that's very painful.

2074
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 1: In fact, it could scrape so much great it begin

2075
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 1: to stick and those red blood cells begin to sort

2076
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 1: of stick and then block one another, and you get

2077
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:30,599
Speaker 1: blockage in an attery that could result of scrow into

2078
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:35,600
Speaker 1: very painful experiences where now it affects your organ it

2079
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 1: affects your tissue because poor seculation means that the tissue

2080
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,640
Speaker 1: could die. And so we wanted to bring greater awareness

2081
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 1: and a long wisdom. Mayor's Life Sciences. They have a

2082
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 1: new draw to treat sickle cell patients and factus the

2083
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 1: first one to be approved by the FDA in the

2084
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 1: last twenty years. It's called in DARI and so this

2085
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 1: is an awareness sham thing to help those who have

2086
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: family members of those who might be sickle cell patients

2087
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: to understand that theory is home with new drugs that

2088
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: have been made available. I can tell you there are

2089
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 1: a lot of athletes who are participating out there. They

2090
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 1: have sickle cell disease and he may have heard it.

2091
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 1: It's exacerbated at altitude, exacerbated when you're under physical exertion

2092
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: like exercise, participating in sport. For those kids out there

2093
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 1: have this disease, they have to be very careful or

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01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:31,560
Speaker 1: just about going out to recess and not over exerting themselves,

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01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 1: and so my heart goes out to him because it

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01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 1: can't live a full and active lifestyle like maybe like

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01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 1: you and I've been able to live Steve, you know,

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01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 1: playing the game that we love. And so it's very

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01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,640
Speaker 1: critical we want to make sure that they understand that

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01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:49,799
Speaker 1: their treatments out there to help with sickle cell disease.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and I think it was Ryan Clark, right,

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01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: the former Steelers safety. He couldn't play in Denver because

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01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 1: you couldn't go play at altitude because he had sickle

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Speaker 1: cell disease. Yeah, an he right. And you guys may

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01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 1: remember Bobby Ingram. He's a player out of Pens. He

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01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:10,600
Speaker 1: played for Chicago Bearts Settle the Seattle Seahawks, now the

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01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 1: tight ends and wide receivers coach with the Baltimore Ravens.

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01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 1: Or just last year he had a daughter who was

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Speaker 1: attending college in Shia still disease and died of complications

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01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 1: as a result. Ye, so this isn't really it's a

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Speaker 1: critical disease. It's been one of those diseases that have

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Speaker 1: sort of laid into Shattle's kind of an outlier because

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01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 1: we've spent so much time fighting third word, he caused

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01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 1: it's the diseases that get a whole lot more attention.

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01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:39,600
Speaker 1: But we wanted to bring this from back into the

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01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:43,759
Speaker 1: spot like because there are treatments for it to help

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01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 1: with the lives. The improvement in the lives of many

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01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 1: of those patients we're talking to Solomon will cost the

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01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 1: safety in the National Football League for six years. And

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Speaker 1: you're right, Sally that you know, one of the treatments

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01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:56,679
Speaker 1: came out in twenty seventeen. It's the first new treatment

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01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 1: for sickle cell maybe in twenty years, so it's really

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01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 1: been in the shadows and now to find to get

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01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 1: some progress may help a lot more people in just

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01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 1: professional athletes. Oh absolutely, and that's what we're aiming to

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01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 1: do it. So I appreciate you guys giving me some

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01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:13,560
Speaker 1: time on your show to talk about no problem and

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01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 1: one thing before I want to ask you one more

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01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 1: football question before we let you go, and it may

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01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 1: not be my last one depending on your answer. The

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01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:23,639
Speaker 1: Ravens are doing things a little bit differently these days

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01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 1: than anybody else in NFL. I mean they're starting to

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01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 1: use a slash QB like you know, their quarterback Lamar Darks,

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01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 1: and he's a starter. He can run it and they

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01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't throw it. They centered their game around this

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01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:41,679
Speaker 1: power running game. Now they're starting to get we're getting

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01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: signals that their college quarterback, they have Trace McSorley maybe

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01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 1: us as kind of a hybrid trick play a little

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01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: bit like the guy in New Orleans. Do you see

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01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 1: any like Taysom Hill in New Orleans? Do you think

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01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna work long term or do you think it's

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01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:02,679
Speaker 1: actually even true? No, there was no doubt. I would

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01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 1: tell you right now. In fact, I sort of threw

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01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: up something for you know, at our people here, uh

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01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, we did something on that. We did

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01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:17,599
Speaker 1: some content based on what they did with Taysom Hill

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01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Trayson mcsuilly is that same trying to player.

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01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 1: He's a I'm gonna tell you man, I Washington playing

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01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 1: a lot of games at Penn State. This guy just

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01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 1: found the way to win games. Now, he's much smaller

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01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 1: than Taysom Hill. Six you're gonna look at the Yeah,

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01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill is a big dude who can run. I mean,

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01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 1: who's got wheels. And Tracey mcsurely isn't as fast at

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01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. He's not as big as Taysom Hill, but

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01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 1: he does give them an opportunity to have some of

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01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 1: those kind of new wrinkles within the office. It'll be

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01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 1: interesting and see how you know how Bred Roman uses

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01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 1: him within the office. You guys know this as well

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01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 1: as anyone because Greg Roman was calling in the plays

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01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. He helped down i think just a few

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01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: years ago, have the number one rushing get back in

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01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 1: the National Footballs and then did it again once he

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01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 1: took over in Baltimore. Last thing will be able to

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01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 1: rumber football because Greg Romans just had a system that

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01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:21,559
Speaker 1: it allowed Colin Kaepernick to thrive. He did some same

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01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 1: thing in Buffalo and saw it last year with Lamar Jackson.

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01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 1: The key is like in that playoff game against San Diego.

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Speaker 1: Excuse it just the LM Chargers, I should say. Once

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01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 1: teams really adjust to what they're doing in terms of

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01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 1: the running game and they began to morph this offense

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01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: where the quarterback can become a pocket pass if you

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01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 1: well know, soon or later you're gonna have to make

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01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 1: some pass plays from the pocket. It's not all gonna

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01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 1: be play actions, not gonna all be read options. And

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01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 1: if you can't evolve, you can't evolve to that level

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01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:58,439
Speaker 1: I think to be difficult. Remember when Lamar Jackson played

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01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: his last game is in the t Banks him in

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01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 1: that playoff game against started last time we saw him.

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01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 1: He was being boomed in that. So you know the

2180
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 1: pendulum can swing. Tell you why with this kind of office.

2181
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 1: One minute they loved him when they're going to work.

2182
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 1: In the next minute, when you can't do absolutely nothing,

2183
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 1: they want you out of there. And so Grant Romans,

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01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 1: you guys saw that a little bit of buffalo. It's

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01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 1: gotta evall. Yeah, Solomon, thanks for coming on. I really

2186
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it's great hearing from me, my friend. Hey, anytime

2187
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 1: for you, Steve, so just let me know. But thanks again, Buddy,

2188
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 1: appreciate it. You bet. Solomon Willcox Sky Sports and Pro

2189
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:39,599
Speaker 1: Football Focus NFL analysts. He's a former NFL on CBS

2190
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 1: color analysts as well. He's my partner on one of

2191
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl broadcasts down in New Orleans House when

2192
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 1: the lights went out, he was the other sideline. Good

2193
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 1: back to you, Steve, back to you, Solomon, back to you, Steve. Um. No,

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01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 1: how crazy is this though, Like just think about this

2195
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:57,080
Speaker 1: for a second. Cordell Stewart was called, you know, the

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01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 1: slash quarterback. Probably the first guy that was called slash,

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01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, play a little wide receiver, kind of ran

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01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, was a running quarterback. Neil O'Donnell

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01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 1: was the main pocket guy. Now Lamar Jackson is the

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01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Who's the guy that kind of runs around

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01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 1: a lot and can throw it, you know, but I think,

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01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,639
Speaker 1: you know as widely seen as an athletic type quarterback.

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01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 1: And Trace McSorley, who has some athleticism, but I think

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01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:27,560
Speaker 1: would be would qualify more as you know, and in

2205
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:30,799
Speaker 1: the pocket guy to make throws. Now he's the slash player.

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01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 1: It's it's flipped. It's completely flipped from what it used

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01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: to be in the early two thousands. I mean, here

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01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 1: we are twenty years later and the dynamic has has

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Speaker 1: completely turned on its head. I think trace mcsorley's probably

2210
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 1: a good kid, really good player, great guy, but I

2211
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 1: questioned his athleticism at this level. Well yeah, and and

2212
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm saying he's probably got to be

2213
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 1: more of a pocket guy. And he's only six one,

2214
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 1: and that's in cleats, you know what I mean, So

2215
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 1: not a big guy. May give him two plays a game.

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01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I really I don't see it getting a

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01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 1: lot of traction. I really don't. They could. I mean,

2218
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 1: it depends on how much they invest in it in

2219
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: practices and stuff, and how widely varied it can be.

2220
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 1: But he's not Taysom Hill, that's right. He is not

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01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. Can run. He can run like Josh can

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01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 1: run Taysom Hill. That's correct. I mean, we'll see. Thanks

2223
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 1: for Solomon Willcos for coming to first just taking around

2224
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 1: with Dynamics fans. It's gonna be It's gonna be pretty

2225
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 1: cool to see because because Baltimore is gonna look differently

2226
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 1: on the field, their offense is gonna look different than

2227
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 1: most of the offense, if not every single offense in

2228
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. They're gonna lead the league and rushing attempts,

2229
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 1: lead the league in rushing as a team rushing anyway,

2230
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how it almost plays out.

2231
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 1: Roman schemes are great. I mean we saw it here.

2232
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 1: They led the league in rushing when he was here,

2233
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, calling those run games and the schemes and everything.

2234
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 1: So it would be interesting. All right, we're gonna come back.

2235
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna have come back with NFL true false, And

2236
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 1: what do we learn to finish up. We're gonna be

2237
01:55:57,840 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 1: here till three o'clock. We'll take a couple more calls.

2238
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 1: We got Justin on the line from Fredonia. We'll get

2239
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 1: to him after the break. This is One Bill's Live,

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01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is

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01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve

2242
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 1: task along with Chris Brown Murph on vacation for the

2243
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 1: rest of the week. And as I promised after the break.

2244
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 1: Before the break, we're gonna get to Justin and Fredonian.

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01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: Just a minute on the professional athlete, who's who you

2246
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 1: wish did not have their career cut shore. We've been

2247
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:36,880
Speaker 1: talking about that all day. We've got a long list

2248
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 1: of people. I think we've almost exhausted it, but I

2249
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see justin Fredonia. You're on, was Chris

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01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 1: and Steve this One Bill's Live. What's on your mind?

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01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 1: Hey guys, I just want to say I was a

2252
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 1: big fan. I was thinking Brandon Roy and Calvin Johnson.

2253
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 1: I thought Calvin Johnson was really going to break the

2254
01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 1: receiving yard record, and I thought Brandon Roy was gonna

2255
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 1: be something great until he just got hurt. I just

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01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on it and go build. Yeah,

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01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 1: Brandon Roy NBA player and a good one and basically

2258
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: he only played five seasons, had Arthur scotpic knee surgery

2259
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 1: on both knees, and he had a cartilage problem. Like

2260
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 1: you were saying earlier, Steve cartilage problem less and less

2261
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:26,400
Speaker 1: for the doctors to work with. But this guy was

2262
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 1: the two thousand and seven Rookie of the Year in

2263
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 1: the NBA six six shooting guard. I mean, explosive, get

2264
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 1: to the rim, finish, throw it down on people that

2265
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 1: are half a foot taller than him, like just jump

2266
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:41,040
Speaker 1: out of the gym kind of springs. I mean, just

2267
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 1: really impressive. And I mean he played for the Trailblazers.

2268
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 1: Really just an impressive player. But I mean it's just

2269
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 1: his knees just quit on him and he was done.

2270
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 1: And Calvin Johnson he just walked away, which you know

2271
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 1: some guys will do that. Yeah, his body is his

2272
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 1: body was starting to run out. I mean it was

2273
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:04,680
Speaker 1: starting to fail him a little bit. Calvin Johnson was

2274
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 1: an unbelievable player. Steve forty five inch vertical at the

2275
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 1: combine and forty five yes, listen his shoulders or forty

2276
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 1: five inches above my head. The guy was a giant

2277
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 1: and he was a I mean he was six six

2278
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 1: with a forty five inch vertical Who's out jumping him

2279
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 1: for a football? Yes? He was. Who was doing that?

2280
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 1: That's why they called him Megatron man. He lived up

2281
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 1: to it and he just said, you know what, I've

2282
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 1: had enough and he walked away. Right. There was another one,

2283
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:31,880
Speaker 1: another basketball player that we haven't mentioned. We did in

2284
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 1: the break and we didn't on the areas. Lynn Bias

2285
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 1: len Bias. Lenn Bias is another one who never we never.

2286
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 1: I was surprised nobody mentioned that, and I mean I

2287
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 1: was way into college basketball when he was playing and

2288
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:48,000
Speaker 1: watching him at Maryland take on you know the powerhouses

2289
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 1: of the ACC at the time, which was Duke North Carolina.

2290
01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean he and even Virginia was really good then

2291
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 1: with Ralph Sampson. M len Bias was a was a

2292
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 1: power forward with a point guard handle. And you want

2293
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 1: to talk about how the mid range game in the

2294
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 1: league now and in college to a certain degree, has

2295
01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 1: been phased out of the game. This guy had a

2296
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:16,000
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen footer from the wing and it was money

2297
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 1: every single time. And then he could take somebody off

2298
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 1: the dribble, go right to the basket, you know, throw

2299
01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 1: it down, he could post up. I mean his game

2300
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 1: was limitless. And you know he goes number two to

2301
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 1: the Celtics and who behind I don't even remember, Oh god,

2302
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:35,040
Speaker 1: who was number one in that year? Is that eighty five?

2303
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 1: Was it Ewing? Might have been I think it was

2304
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 1: the Knicks might have been Ewing, and then Bias was

2305
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 1: that the draft. I might be a year off there,

2306
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 1: but anyway, yeah, I think it was Ewing and then

2307
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:50,560
Speaker 1: Bias it might have been eighty six draft. I might

2308
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 1: be one year off. Anyway, Bias gets drafted number two

2309
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:57,720
Speaker 1: overall of the Celtics. The Celtics fans are going nuts.

2310
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 1: They're talking about extending their dynasty. I want to say

2311
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:03,160
Speaker 1: it was the eighty six draft because the Celtics had

2312
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:05,840
Speaker 1: just won the eighty six title and now they're adding

2313
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 1: Looks and now they're adding Len Bias to that group.

2314
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:10,640
Speaker 1: I was like, as a Nick fan, I'm like, are

2315
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Like what else do they get? They

2316
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 1: were like an embarrassment of riches and then that weekend,

2317
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 1: the news breaks that he dies of a cocaine overdose

2318
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:23,520
Speaker 1: back in his home state of Maryland, and people were

2319
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 1: just floored. And the biggest shame of it is not

2320
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 1: seeing him as a pro because he could have been special.

2321
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:34,640
Speaker 1: Jay Billis, who does a lot of the college basketball

2322
02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:38,200
Speaker 1: stuff for ESPN and played against him when he was

2323
02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 1: at Duke, said he was probably the best college player

2324
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 1: I ever played against. Brad Doherty was taken by the Cavaliers.

2325
02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 1: Oh first, overall, that's right, Braddaugherty out of Virginia or

2326
02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:52,480
Speaker 1: North Carolina sark. But he played against him too. But

2327
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 1: Jay Billis has said many times he is the best

2328
02:00:56,200 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 1: college player I ever went against in my time, the

2329
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 1: toughest opponent because his game was limitless. He could do everything.

2330
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:08,600
Speaker 1: He was He was unbelievable. Thanks for rolla Coles today

2331
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:11,240
Speaker 1: on them. Yeah it was Hey, it was a healthy conversation.

2332
02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:13,880
Speaker 1: We got a lot of good answers today. It's time now, though,

2333
02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 1: for the ever present NFL. True false brought to you

2334
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:19,920
Speaker 1: by Yancey's Fancy New York's artist and Cheese. You're ready, Brownie,

2335
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm as ready as I'm gonna be here. We go.

2336
02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:27,120
Speaker 1: True NFL True false. Number one, dan Quinn and Matt

2337
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 1: Ryan will shake off the two thousand eighteen season and

2338
02:01:30,840 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 1: rebound in two thousand and nineteen. You think that's true

2339
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 1: or false. I'll let you go first on this, Dan

2340
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,600
Speaker 1: Ryan and Matt dan Quinn and Matt Ryan will shake

2341
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 1: off two eighteen and rebound in nineteen. While I do

2342
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 1: believe that Matt Ryan will play better, and I think

2343
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 1: they're their defense will be better because they'll be healthier.

2344
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 1: If you remember, they lost three starters from their defense

2345
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 1: last year and then it became shootout football for the Falcons.

2346
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 1: If they were gonna win games, they're gonna have to

2347
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 1: win games thirty five, thirty thirty one, twenty eight. You know.

2348
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:03,600
Speaker 1: Like that their defense is healthier this year, so that helps.

2349
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:06,720
Speaker 1: I think Matt Ryan will play better. I just don't

2350
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:09,440
Speaker 1: like the division he's playing in. That's my issue. I

2351
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:11,480
Speaker 1: think Carolina Panthers are going to be a much improved

2352
02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:14,560
Speaker 1: team this year. That Carolina Panthers were running hot and

2353
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:16,840
Speaker 1: then they ran into some problems in mid season. Cam

2354
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 1: Shoulder went down on him and that was the end

2355
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:23,400
Speaker 1: of him. But they reloaded well. Obviously, I think Carolina

2356
02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:25,160
Speaker 1: is going to be an upstar team in that division.

2357
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 1: The Saints are still going for the super Bowl in

2358
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:32,879
Speaker 1: my estimation. Really, Tampa's the only walkover team that's rebuilding

2359
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:37,080
Speaker 1: under Bruce Arians. So I think they'll be better. But

2360
02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:38,920
Speaker 1: what do we call in a rebound. I don't know.

2361
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:40,880
Speaker 1: If they're making the playoffs out of that division, I

2362
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:43,400
Speaker 1: don't know they could. I think they will rebound, I do.

2363
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 1: I think they gotta win double digit games. They can

2364
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:47,400
Speaker 1: do it. They could get in its wildcard and they

2365
02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 1: could win the division. They're gonna They know the Saints,

2366
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 1: they've played him before. And I'll tell you what, Matt

2367
02:02:52,280 --> 02:02:55,160
Speaker 1: Ryan has the ability to play at an MVP level.

2368
02:02:55,240 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 1: He is a really good quarterback. Now he'll get He'll

2369
02:02:57,680 --> 02:03:01,840
Speaker 1: never get the accolades that Drew Brees does. Certainly, Cam

2370
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 1: Newton is an MVP type of player as well. I

2371
02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:07,680
Speaker 1: like the Atlanta Falcons better than I like the Carolina Panthers.

2372
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:11,840
Speaker 1: Do I don't, So I'm saying false, I'm gonna say true.

2373
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:13,800
Speaker 1: I think that I think the Falcons are gonna bounce

2374
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:16,080
Speaker 1: back in a big way this year. So, oh yeah,

2375
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:18,680
Speaker 1: they lost DeVonta Freeman last year too, It didn't they? Yeah,

2376
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:21,680
Speaker 1: they had a lot of injury problems. I'll believe the

2377
02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:24,560
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers when I see it again. I think I

2378
02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:27,120
Speaker 1: think the Atlanta Falcons are loaded and ready to go.

2379
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:29,840
Speaker 1: I think Matt Ryan gives them a chance in such

2380
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:33,000
Speaker 1: a with Julio Jones on the outside. You know, they've

2381
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:35,320
Speaker 1: got weapons they can use. Everything else is better because

2382
02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:37,880
Speaker 1: of it. They're they've got a better offensive line. They

2383
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:40,560
Speaker 1: got sacked a bunch last year, and Matt Ryan still

2384
02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 1: completed seventy percent of his passes. They're gonna be all right.

2385
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:46,680
Speaker 1: So I think the Atlanta Falcons will bounce back this year,

2386
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:50,960
Speaker 1: all right. NFL true false Number two. The Cowboys should

2387
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 1: be afraid that Zeke Elliott will take a Levion Bell path.

2388
02:03:56,440 --> 02:03:58,160
Speaker 1: Let me go first. You go first on this and

2389
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:02,080
Speaker 1: I'll go first in the last one. Yeah, here's the thing, Okay,

2390
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 1: we talk about how there's no loyalty in the NFL

2391
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:11,560
Speaker 1: Dallas as an organization, I don't know if you could

2392
02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 1: have asked them to stand by their man much more

2393
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:16,240
Speaker 1: than they did with Zeke Elliott with all that domestic

2394
02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:20,160
Speaker 1: off the field stuff that they they took all the

2395
02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 1: hits on that, including what eventually became a six game suspension,

2396
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:29,160
Speaker 1: and they stuck by that guy from start to finish.

2397
02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:33,280
Speaker 1: They never wavered. So if he's going to start to

2398
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:37,520
Speaker 1: play that game and start sitting out, Jerry Jones is

2399
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:40,640
Speaker 1: just going to move him. I think. So you want

2400
02:04:40,640 --> 02:04:42,360
Speaker 1: to play that card, you're not gonna be in Dallas,

2401
02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:45,640
Speaker 1: and then not every organization is going to stick by

2402
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:48,680
Speaker 1: you the way the Cowboys did. I'm just just a

2403
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:51,720
Speaker 1: word of warning there. So is he going to play

2404
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:54,720
Speaker 1: that game? I think you'd be stupid to do it.

2405
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:58,200
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not going to assess the IQ

2406
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:02,040
Speaker 1: level of one Zeke Elliott or his agent. I think

2407
02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 1: it's just foolish to do that after the way the

2408
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 1: organization stood by him in a very public and embarrassing

2409
02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:10,640
Speaker 1: off field incident. So I will say false, hoping that

2410
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:12,720
Speaker 1: he's loyal to the team that was loyal to him.

2411
02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, here's the thing. Should should the Cowboys

2412
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:18,840
Speaker 1: fear Ezekiel e be afraid of Ezekiel Elliott doing what

2413
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 1: Levion Bell did? I would say no for one couple

2414
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:26,280
Speaker 1: of reasons. One, he plays running back, and there are

2415
02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 1: a ton of athletes out there that are playing running back.

2416
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:29,680
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. You go back to

2417
02:05:29,720 --> 02:05:34,480
Speaker 1: that offensive line he had his rookie year, Yeah he was.

2418
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 1: He was getting some help up front, No question. He

2419
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:38,600
Speaker 1: was a great runner. He's as good at running back

2420
02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:40,760
Speaker 1: as there is in the Latin National Football League right now.

2421
02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:44,240
Speaker 1: You could put se Quon Barkley in that, Todd Gurley

2422
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:46,800
Speaker 1: in that when he's healthy. There's not too many guys

2423
02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 1: that are like that that carry the offense in the NFL.

2424
02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 1: Zeke is one of them. But he's had a thousand

2425
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:59,960
Speaker 1: touches in his first three years. They just paid DeMarcus Laura,

2426
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:03,320
Speaker 1: the highest contract for a defensive end in the National

2427
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:08,680
Speaker 1: Football Dak Prescott is up next, and you're right, he

2428
02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:11,800
Speaker 1: got suspended for six games and the clubs stuck with him.

2429
02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't think the I think the Dallas Cowboys will

2430
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 1: be okay, and they got a corner they gotta pay,

2431
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:20,640
Speaker 1: So I think there's no question the Cowboys are gonna

2432
02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:23,840
Speaker 1: be okay without Zeke Elliott. No question it'll hurt him.

2433
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:27,040
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you this, if he so, I don't

2434
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 1: think they need to be afraid of him sitting out

2435
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 1: because I tell you what, after five years, when they

2436
02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:33,280
Speaker 1: pick up his contract and they make him a franchise player,

2437
02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:35,880
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do. They're gonna use him up. Well,

2438
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:38,800
Speaker 1: they already have to. I mean you talked about it

2439
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:41,680
Speaker 1: a thousand touches through his first three seasons. Here's the

2440
02:06:41,720 --> 02:06:44,920
Speaker 1: other reason they shouldn't be afraid. Levian Bell didn't get over.

2441
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:47,640
Speaker 1: He got out of Pittsburgh, but he didn't get the

2442
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:50,560
Speaker 1: money he was looking for, did he? So why is

2443
02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:52,840
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott gonna take that path? I mean, you'd be

2444
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:55,800
Speaker 1: foolish to do that. So with the agent, the agent's

2445
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 1: gonna be out of a job. He's gonna lose a

2446
02:06:57,440 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 1: client if he takes the same path that Levi. Right,

2447
02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:02,600
Speaker 1: so we both say false. The Cowboys do not need

2448
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:05,760
Speaker 1: to be afraid of Ezekiel Elliott doing the Levion Bell thing.

2449
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:08,600
Speaker 1: They'll just franchise him and if they don't need him,

2450
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:10,800
Speaker 1: draft somebody else. You use him for one more year

2451
02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 1: at a premium cost, and then move on NFL True

2452
02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:16,440
Speaker 1: False Number three. Dwayne Haskins is the only hope to

2453
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 1: say the Redskins in twenty nineteen. I'm gonna go first,

2454
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:22,040
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say, yep, they are a dumpster fire

2455
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 1: right now. Alex Smith went down, They were six and

2456
02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:26,040
Speaker 1: three with a two game lead in the division. In

2457
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 1: the NFC East, they were rolling. They went on to

2458
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 1: go one and set one in six or one in

2459
02:07:33,160 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 1: seven in their last eight games, missed the playoffs when

2460
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:41,000
Speaker 1: Set went seven and nine after starting six and three. Yeah,

2461
02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 1: Dwayne hask They need their quarterback to be good. Dwayne

2462
02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:45,960
Speaker 1: Haskins is the guy. And I think Alex Smith needs

2463
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:47,120
Speaker 1: to come back and they need to try and get

2464
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:49,880
Speaker 1: him back in the saddle. They were six and three

2465
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:54,640
Speaker 1: with a two game lead in the division. Yeah, and

2466
02:07:54,720 --> 02:07:57,960
Speaker 1: now they've got Dwayne Haskins taking snaps. Yeah, They've got

2467
02:07:58,120 --> 02:08:00,400
Speaker 1: to have him play well and they've got to play

2468
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:02,520
Speaker 1: well around him in order to get their twenty nineteen

2469
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:04,680
Speaker 1: off on the right foot and get to get anywhere go. Yeah,

2470
02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:08,200
Speaker 1: and that roster is hurting, you know what I mean.

2471
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:10,600
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of depth. There, not a lot

2472
02:08:10,640 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 1: of proven guys at receiver. Vernon Davis is an old fogy.

2473
02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you have Jordan Reed, but he can't

2474
02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:20,440
Speaker 1: stay healthy at the tight end position. They have a

2475
02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:24,080
Speaker 1: good offensive line, but the defense is lacking. I mean

2476
02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:28,080
Speaker 1: it's Ryan Kerrigan and and their new top draft choice,

2477
02:08:28,160 --> 02:08:30,920
Speaker 1: Montes sweat, which you know, hopefully helps their pass rush

2478
02:08:31,320 --> 02:08:34,760
Speaker 1: and takes all the attention off Kerrigan. And they spend

2479
02:08:34,840 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 1: giant money on land in Collins. But man, I don't

2480
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:41,280
Speaker 1: think it's enough. Think about this. I don't think it's

2481
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:44,520
Speaker 1: enough for football competitive standpoint. This doesn't mean much. They're

2482
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:47,400
Speaker 1: trying to get a new stadium, They're losing fans all

2483
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:51,080
Speaker 1: over the place. Their medical staff has just been dragged

2484
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 1: by through the mud by Trent Williams and the perception

2485
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:56,680
Speaker 1: that they're just not on top. They don't really care

2486
02:08:56,720 --> 02:08:58,680
Speaker 1: whether their players are healthy or not. They're going to

2487
02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:02,200
Speaker 1: play him. It's a bad press that brought Ruben Foster in,

2488
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:05,640
Speaker 1: which was met with you know, which you know, went

2489
02:09:05,720 --> 02:09:07,920
Speaker 1: over like a lead balloon. But he blew out his

2490
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:14,120
Speaker 1: knee on the first play of OTAs. I'm gonna agree

2491
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:15,880
Speaker 1: with you. I'm gonna say true. I mean, he is

2492
02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:17,960
Speaker 1: their only hope. I mean, if he lights it up,

2493
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, they could actually win more games than a

2494
02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:22,360
Speaker 1: lot of people are anticipating. But they're gonna be at

2495
02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:24,360
Speaker 1: the bottom of this division with the Giants. Well yeah,

2496
02:09:24,400 --> 02:09:28,480
Speaker 1: but the Giants, the Redskins, the Cowboys, Eagles, and now

2497
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:31,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles it's Eagles and Cowboys at the top half here. Yeah,

2498
02:09:31,720 --> 02:09:35,440
Speaker 1: and so if they're gonna be any good, they gotta

2499
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:37,520
Speaker 1: have Haskins play well. He's got to light it up

2500
02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:41,680
Speaker 1: and the and the tough thing with Haskins game, at

2501
02:09:41,720 --> 02:09:43,600
Speaker 1: least the knock on him when he was coming out.

2502
02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:48,640
Speaker 1: Is not an anticipatory thrower. A lot of those concepts

2503
02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:51,560
Speaker 1: in Ohio State is see it, throw it, just to

2504
02:09:51,640 --> 02:09:54,400
Speaker 1: make it easy on the young kids there. And while

2505
02:09:54,440 --> 02:09:56,120
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense for winning football games

2506
02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:58,600
Speaker 1: at the college level, that doesn't translate well to the

2507
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:00,560
Speaker 1: NFL level. So he didn't have a lot of work

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Speaker 1: as an anticipatory thrower. Can he make that step and

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Speaker 1: do that as a rookie? Washington better hope to hell

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Speaker 1: that he can, or it's going to be a long

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Speaker 1: year in the Capitol City there. Well, we'll see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's Yancey's Fantasies. That's NFL true false, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and Cheese. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: come back with what have we learned to finish up?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. We're here till three o'clock

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live presented by Clyde to Health from One

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Speaker 1: We had Don Vby on the show today. He was

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Speaker 1: a member of six different teams who went to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, four of them here in Buffalo, and he

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Speaker 1: told us about how finally winning a super Bowl with

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers took him back to his times

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Speaker 1: here in Western New York. Here's what he said. My

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Speaker 1: thoughts as I was walking over to my family was

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Speaker 1: why me? I mean, why not? Why not Steve? Why

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Speaker 1: not Jim? Why not you know, Darryl Talley and Marvin

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Speaker 1: Bill and in the in all the people in Western

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Speaker 1: My thoughts went back to Western New York. I can

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Speaker 1: honestly say that. And here I'm wearing a packer uniform,

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Speaker 1: thinking I really felt guilty. I was like, why, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't deserve this. I mean there's a lot more

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Speaker 1: people more deserving than I. Why me? And so for

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Speaker 1: me it was kind of an emotional time of in

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Speaker 1: fur you that this I felt great of winning it,

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Speaker 1: but then at the same time, I was kind of

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Speaker 1: said that all my guys and friends and Buffalo wasn't

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Speaker 1: with me because they deserved it as much as I,

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Speaker 1: if not more. That was Don beebeon finally winning a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl with Green Bay Packers after losing four Super

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Speaker 1: Bowls with our own Buffalo Bills. We also had on

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Speaker 1: the program Solomon Wilcox, who played safety in the Football

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Speaker 1: League for six seasons now as a Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 1: analyst on the NFL. He studied on film the film

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Speaker 1: on Tredavious White and loved what he saw. And here's

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Speaker 1: what he said. We're really high on him. You know,

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Speaker 1: his rookie year, he grated out higher and he did

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Speaker 1: last year. And you know how it is, you come

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Speaker 1: in as a rookie, you kind of get away with

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Speaker 1: some things because people have an established your trendings. They

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Speaker 1: haven't gotten a whole lot of teak Bard that it

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Speaker 1: isn't that second year teams start to dial in, particularly

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Speaker 1: teams with injured division. And what we found out is

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Speaker 1: that he gave up a few more players in a

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Speaker 1: second year, but he still as a competitor. The guy

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Speaker 1: will him up route, he'll fit, he'll be aggressive up

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Like, thank advanced to Lawrence for

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Speaker 1: bringing us today's what have we learned? Brownie good show today.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people chiming in on some of the

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Speaker 1: athletes they thought they wished they'd have seen more of

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Speaker 1: and whose careers were derailed early. Yeah, when our listeners

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Speaker 1: become part of the show, it makes for a better show.

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Speaker 1: You know, your contributions were appreciated today. We had a

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Speaker 1: lot of good answers in there. Yeah, you know, Mickey Mantle,

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Speaker 1: even the Davy Allison one like you and I aren't.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're not gearheads. We're not gearheads. But you know,

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Speaker 1: a guy that we didn't know about thirty two years

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Speaker 1: old at the peak of his career cut short in

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Speaker 1: a helicopter crash of all things, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: not overwhelmingly positive news, but something that you know, we

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Speaker 1: bring to the table and I think makes for a

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Speaker 1: better show. So thanks for all the calls today. And

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Speaker 1: obviously some of these endings were tragic. Eating of Monica

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Speaker 1: sell Us with some lunatic jumping out of the street.

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Speaker 1: Did come back from it. To her credit, she did

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Speaker 1: and she wasn't. Yeah she was the same, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: the damage, but she was never the same after that.

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Speaker 1: It was and it was. It was crazy. And plus

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Speaker 1: all the guys who like len Bias, guys who were

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Speaker 1: never got a chance to see plays at the national level.

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Speaker 1: Right well, Brownie, thanks back tomorrow for another big show

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Speaker 1: noon to three. We'll be back with One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Already for production assistants George Bloss, Jeff Colton, act Thomas Hollander,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, JJ Teredo, Kevin Cargis, James Roebel, and our

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Speaker 1: producer Jay Harris, who is all warm and fuzzy inside

2588
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Speaker 1: today because he got a new computer. We all know

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Speaker 1: how fun it is to get a new laptop. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't even listening to the show. Wow, he'll listen tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody, We'll be back One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Clyde to Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio.