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Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, let's get right to the phones. I want

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Speaker 2: to go talk to Brian. Brian as Brian's from Jersey

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Speaker 2: and he's got asked before us. Brian, and this is

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Speaker 2: the one hundred year anniversary about Root sixty six. Right,

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Speaker 2: let's dive right into it. I know your question, are

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Speaker 2: you coming pretty much?

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Speaker 3: Clinton? Only the two hundred and fiftieth of are a

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Speaker 3: great country, and I'm in the process of fulfilling my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where are you going?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to relocate down to Tennessee. But once

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Speaker 3: I'm established down there, I want to still educate myself.

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Speaker 3: Pennsylvania turnplate. I have brochures of when they first opened

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Speaker 3: that up. But the whole dynamic of transportation Route sixty

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Speaker 3: six was supposed to be the continuation of the connection

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Speaker 3: between the modern connection between the east and the west.

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Speaker 3: So I guess my question is not pertaining to a

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Speaker 3: vehicle repair, but so much as your recommendations of where

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Speaker 3: to visit, what to look along the Route sixty six.

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Speaker 2: A pathways, Burma Shave signs. You know, they say that

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Speaker 2: the history of Route sixty six is or the charm

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Speaker 2: of Route sixty six is the history that it still holds.

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Speaker 2: So let's define it right. Route sixty six started out

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Speaker 2: in nineteen twenty six. It's about twenty four hundred some

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Speaker 2: was the first westward highway. This this is a time

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Speaker 2: before Route eighty existed, before Route seventy eight existed. There

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Speaker 2: was no interstate highway system.

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Speaker 3: There was no there was no interstate establishment, right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: The interstate highway system, as I recall in my history

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Speaker 2: and my understanding of history, was created in the fifties

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Speaker 2: by Eisenhower when he created the interstate highway system. And

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Speaker 2: do you know the well you probably do. But the

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Speaker 2: reason behind the interstate highway system creation was to move

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Speaker 2: military forces quickly from the east coast to the west

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Speaker 2: coast and vice versa. They wanted to be able to

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Speaker 2: have rapid transport in the case of an emergency.

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Speaker 3: Big time yep.

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Speaker 2: And it's really staggering how fast they rolled out this

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Speaker 2: interstate highway creation that we've got now eighty seventy eight

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Speaker 3: It was fifty yeah, I was right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, sixty six was it. You know,

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Speaker 2: you got your kicks on route sixty six, as the

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Speaker 3: But it's still parallel to what they put in as

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Speaker 3: far as Bob passes, yep. And there's little spots along

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Speaker 3: the way, places of interest, must see hidden treasures, and

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Speaker 3: that's what I'm compelled to investigate, and I think the best.

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Speaker 2: And there are books written about it, and you can

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Speaker 2: you can obviously the Internet and everything else. But I

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Speaker 2: and I've only been on certain parts of it, is

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Speaker 2: just it's the little things you bump into. Root sixty

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Speaker 2: and you're you sort of stumble along and all of

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Speaker 2: and you know, the world wasn't going by at eighty

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Speaker 2: You know, it was it was. It was a very

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Speaker 2: different time. Have you been on sixty six at all, Brian, say, again.

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Speaker 3: Years and years and years ago.

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Speaker 2: I have, So I think Brian's cell phone, yeah, there he.

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Speaker 3: Is really sends me stuff from Elberquerque, Right, So it's

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Speaker 3: that whole stop by drive by and you make mention

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Speaker 3: what that kind of what should I expect?

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Speaker 2: Well, I get going, you know it. It makes you

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Speaker 2: people that can explain some of these things to you,

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Speaker 2: and you wonder if living in the quote unquote fast lane,

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Speaker 3: I was raised in New Jerseys, so I know what

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Speaker 2: You know what, you know what the hustle and bustle is, right,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's we miss a lot and sometimes I

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Speaker 2: slow down, and you can do that on Route sixty six.

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Speaker 2: You know, the staggering thing about sixty six is it

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Speaker 2: was decommissioned I think around eighty five eighty five or

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Speaker 2: you know, they talk about how they broke it up

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Speaker 2: in segments. It was a federal highway at one point,

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Speaker 2: and it had federal highway designation and funding to help

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Speaker 2: support it and keep it going. And the amazing stories

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Speaker 2: and disappeared as a result of it, you know, no

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Speaker 2: longer being there. Somewhere in the studio I'm in right now,

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Speaker 2: I've got a book, The Sign by the Side of

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Speaker 2: the Road, and it talked about Burmashave and you know

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Speaker 2: Burmashave signs. Sure, yeah, yeah, you know, And I have

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Speaker 2: I could read it to you guys. It's just it's

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Speaker 2: it's crazy, some.

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Speaker 3: Of the things. Just the mere mention of that conjures

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Speaker 3: up the memory of your audience of what, uh just

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Speaker 3: it brings back so many just joyous memories. I guess

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Speaker 3: I want to I don't want to see a giant

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Speaker 3: see what it was like in the age of development.

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Speaker 2: Yep, oh, here it is. You know, I just found it.

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Speaker 2: Thank thank you for that, Brian. You allowed me to

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Speaker 3: The boy.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like we planned this brother. The verse by

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Speaker 2: the side of the road by Frank Rossom, Frank Rossom Junior.

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Speaker 2: Burma Shave was it was an advertising campaign and a

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Speaker 2: lot of those signs were on Route sixty six. You know,

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Speaker 2: things like his face was loved by just his mother.

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Speaker 2: He Burma shaved and now, oh brother, you know his

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Speaker 2: beer was his beer was long and strong and tough.

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Speaker 2: He he lost his chicken in the rough, Burma shave.

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Speaker 2: Can you say that? I guess you can. So you chicken,

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Speaker 2: I guess you know. It's it's the things we did

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Speaker 2: on Route sixty six. So and then and then of course, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, off the air ron I was telling Brian, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I've traveled a good portion of Root sixty six through Arizona,

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Speaker 4: and there's stuff you don't see in books. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you see these old abandoned gas stations.

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Speaker 2: You just see the.

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Speaker 4: Uh, this amazing scenery. And and what's really amazing to

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Speaker 4: someone here from the East Coast is stopping in at

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Speaker 4: the gas station to buy a soda and here comes

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Speaker 4: a here comes a guy with the cowboy boots and

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Speaker 4: the chaps and two guns and hulsters on either side,

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Speaker 4: and he walks into the store and it's like whoa.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because it's it's it's real, guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is this is real America. This is real small

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Speaker 2: world America, and it's you know. And I think I

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Speaker 2: sure it's out on YouTube. I'm sure it exists in

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Speaker 2: some place in our digital world. Go find the old

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Speaker 2: TV show with Martin Milner Route sixty six where they yeah,

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Speaker 2: where they drove around in the corvette.

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Speaker 3: For sure? Is that was a sixty three Corvette.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a sixty three. I think

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Speaker 2: the show was created. I'm going to say nineteen sixty,

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Speaker 2: Todd and Buzz, remember Todd and Buzz.

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Speaker 3: What I'm planning on doing is just stopping from town

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Speaker 3: just like they did, and learn to understand what that

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: little bit of Root sixty six TV show trivia. Martin Milner,

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Speaker 2: who played Todd, later went on to star in What

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Speaker 3: Well, that was the motorcycle No Adam twelve Adam twelve?

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Speaker 2: Right, No, yeah, yeah, he was an Adam twelve. Martin

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Speaker 2: Milner was an Adam twelve. I'll tell you another piece

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Speaker 2: about Adam twelve because I'm just a fountain of useless information.

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Speaker 2: If you ever watch and then I gotta go, if

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Speaker 2: you ever got to get back to a car show,

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Speaker 2: if you ever watched The Sands of Viogima with John

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Speaker 2: Wayne nineteen forty nine, store Martin Milner is in Sands

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Speaker 3: Martin Milner was a figure and a lot of those sinlestography.

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Speaker 2: Yep's right, he was. He was one of those. He

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Speaker 2: Adam twelve, Adam twelve.

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Speaker 3: So well, listen, I want you to know that I

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Speaker 3: am a consistent listener to your show, and you have

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Speaker 3: confer him to me that maintaining vehicles is still the

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Speaker 3: milestone of Americana. I had a fifty five special and

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Speaker 3: I just I had that and I started tuning in

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Speaker 3: still listening to you and how to repair certain things

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Speaker 3: these days, it's beyond my comprehension. Yeah, it's it's working

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Speaker 3: on an old car like that easy, as easy as piece.

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Speaker 2: We had. We had two fellas stop by the shop

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Speaker 2: the other day. I'll tell you this real quick. We

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Speaker 2: had two guys stopped by the shop the other day.

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Speaker 2: Sixty six must thank convertible. And normally I don't go outside.

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Speaker 2: Normally I don't go up to the front because you know,

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Speaker 2: when I it just just all pandemonium breaks loosen.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I diagnosed the miss On number two cylinder in about

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Speaker 2: three and a half minutes because I went through this, this, this, this,

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Speaker 2: and this, Okay, it's dead on number two next. You know,

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Speaker 2: It's cars were just so much easier and so different.

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Speaker 2: And that's probably a much longer conversation that I don't

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Speaker 2: have time at this point.

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Speaker 3: But my first car was a sixty six Dodge cart right,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just easy is anything to work on what.

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Speaker 2: We've created, and I gotta go. I appreciate the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Brother, conversation, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: How you going on?

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Speaker 2: Good sir? What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Twenty twenty two CRV? Yes, right, I've got an issue

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Speaker 3: Report it to my wife's car.

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Speaker 5: I barely drive it. We brought it back to the dealer.

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Speaker 5: They took it for a test drive. They said they

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Speaker 2: How many miles are on the shed right now?

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Speaker 5: There's fifty almost fifty eight thousand. I bought it and

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Speaker 2: Okay, and you bought it from a Honda dealer.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I did.

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Speaker 2: So there's a couple of bulletins. I'm aware of twenty

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Speaker 2: Sure you know, I started today's show in the previous

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Speaker 5: You who they are.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they've got a problem, brother, And you know, here's

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Speaker 2: they don't. They just don't. They keep saying stupid, dumb things. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know what, if it was a problem

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Speaker 2: we could detect. Listen, you generated multiple bulletins, you've generated

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Speaker 2: And and this has to be your argument, because you know, listen, listen,

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Speaker 2: from ever buying one, can't you help me on a

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Speaker 2: You know sometimes I.

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Speaker 3: Agree with you.

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Speaker 5: Sure, I'm going to give them a call, and I'm

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it's it's you got to remember.

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Speaker 2: And I say this time and time again for them

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Speaker 2: with their heart. Make the customer happy, because I guarantee

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Speaker 2: you if they turn around and go ED, you know what,

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Speaker 2: we can't experience the problem, but we've got fifty thousand

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Speaker 2: other cars out there doing it. We're gonna take care

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Speaker 3: Ed.

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Speaker 2: If you need more, I'm here, brother, good luck, and

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Speaker 2: let us know how it works out. I'm running any

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Speaker 2: in the car, doctor. I'll be back right after this.

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Speaker 2: From the seat streets to the open.

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Speaker 6: Route to night.

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Speaker 5: If you ride les hell, Ron will keep you rolling right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the call. They're starting to sound a little dehydrated, Tom.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the band's getting enough water. A little

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Speaker 2: bit of hard rocking there. No, I want to give them,

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Speaker 4: Some work, a little little bit of water, and turn

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Speaker 2: I don't want to make them too happy, so they

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I ain't around.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, i's going.

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Speaker 6: I love your show man.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. Well listen, let me let me start

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Speaker 2: with the first caveat This is a Saturn. Yes, so

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Speaker 2: out of business car company. Just so we're clear. I

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Speaker 2: think they're good cars. I think they're good cars. I

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Speaker 2: I had a very dear friend worked on them. We

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Speaker 2: used to talk about them all the time. They were great.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, finding parts for this thing, you

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Speaker 6: So let's I think I think you're one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So, So, having said that, Hi, Joe, how can I

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Speaker 2: that convertible, Remember that two seater convertible they had the

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Speaker 2: whatever the heck it was, the oh yes, sky, the

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Speaker 2: and and you know, and look at how we're growing,

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Speaker 2: and you know, here we are almost twenty years later.

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Speaker 2: They've been dead for the past, you know, nineteen years.

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Speaker 2: So I I know, you know, it's it's it's tragic.

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Speaker 6: But it's been so good to me.

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Speaker 2: Ron Nah Joe, listen, I get it. So what's going

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Speaker 6: Sir? How can I help the anti set system shut

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: This is this is kind of a misnomer, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: for right. You know, I've often said anti theft systems

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Speaker 2: So as far as I'm concerned, you leave the key

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Speaker 2: wouldn't matter that will right, And wheel locks should be

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Speaker 2: because by then they've corroded and they won't come off

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Speaker 2: either that you've lost the key, and that applies to

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know what the code is. Ron, No,

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, have you scanned it? Have you have you scanned it?

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Speaker 6: I can't take it anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Nobody will work on it, nobody's got the technology. Right.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's well, like I said, I have to have

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Speaker 6: it told. I can't drive it anywhere, all right.

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Speaker 2: So so here do this. Do you have a regular mechanic, Joe, Yeah, yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 6: Yes, okay.

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Speaker 2: If it has a bias in Baker twenty nine fifty

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Speaker 2: The way this works is there's a resistance value between

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Speaker 2: It's really his key. It's not some guy turning the

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00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: tumblers with a screwdriver, right, and we want we want

438
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 2: to let the car start.

439
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 6: Hold on, Ron, let me stop you there. I did.

440
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 6: I did change the electronic ignition switch.

441
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 2: Okay, did you do a relearn?

442
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 6: I say, I did a relearn. I got it ten minutes,

443
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 6: ten minutes, and then ten minutes. But I'm thinking I

444
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 6: opened the door, and I don't. I don't think i'd

445
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 6: don't it. I don't think I've done it correctly.

446
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: Ron, Well, wait a minute, now, Joe, what what prompted

447
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: you to put an ignition switch in the car? Did

448
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: you wake up one morning and said it's Tuesday, it

449
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: must be time to change the switch?

450
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 6: Well, no, no, no, I was just I was just doing

451
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 6: some research on my own run, like, you know, going

452
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 6: online and you know, asking AI, you know, telling him

453
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 6: the problems I'm having, and I mean, I guess I

454
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 6: just took up tell myself to change it.

455
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 2: Okay, So you know, did you clear whatever fault codes

456
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: were in there? No?

457
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 6: No, okay, I have, no, I have. I mean I

458
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 6: did unhooked the battery. But no I didn't.

459
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 2: Joe, Joe, Joe.

460
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 6: Yes, I don't want to hear it.

461
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: Rot Joe. It's time to put the wrench down and

462
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: step away from the car.

463
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: Joe.

464
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: You're you're you're making this worse. So let's do this,

465
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: all right. Do you like working on your car? Well, yeah, yeah,

466
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 2: let's let's let's what the heck, let's spend five hundred bucks.

467
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: Let's go buy a scan tool and there's enough stuff

468
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: used on eBay. Let's get something that will read fault codes.

469
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: You're you're working on it, in all seriousness, you're working

470
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: on an antique right now. You want to make sure

471
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 2: you get you get something that will read Year Make Model,

472
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 2: not just ob D two. You you you probably. I

473
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: don't believe this fault code will appear in ob D

474
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 2: two because it's not necessarily an emissions related fault. So

475
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: we want to get something that has the capability to

476
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: read Year Make Model. All right, yep, that before go

477
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: take a look at who is I talking to the

478
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: other day. He claims he's got the next scan tool

479
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: for the next generation. Go take a look at x tool.

480
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: All right, I've heard some good things about it. I've

481
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: been reading about it. X tool. Just go Google search

482
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 2: x tool. They've got some d why stuff at an

483
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: affordable level. And see what that does for you, all right,

484
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: and get a you know, let's see what FOULT code

485
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: is in here. And then, since you've already changed the

486
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: ignition switch, if you get a twenty nine to sixty

487
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: or a twenty nine to fifty seven, clear the code

488
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: and go through your relearn again. Maybe that fixes it

489
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: in the end, And I want to close it here

490
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: in the end, all right, if you can't duplicate the problem,

491
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 2: or you can't fix this by normal hooking crook and

492
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: you're looking for a part. You know, back in the day,

493
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 2: we would take GM models and we would bypass the

494
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: anti theft How would we do that? We would find that, Yeah,

495
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: we would find the two data lines that feed the

496
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: body module the resistance value. We'd go down. This is

497
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: back in the day when radio shack existed, or that.

498
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: You can go with to Tom Ray's basement. I'm sure

499
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: Tom's got resistors of all types and shapes and create

500
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 2: a resistance value, plug it in across the wires, solder

501
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: it in place to the dashboard, and bypass the theft

502
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: system completely. Now, the downside to that is somebody could

503
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: come along with a screwdriver, stick it in your lock

504
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: cylinder and steal your car. Of course, you know, I

505
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: don't think that's happening anytime soon.

506
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 6: Again, who's gonna want to steal that? Right?

507
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, see, and that's back to the

508
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: point of our original conversation. Joe, there should be a

509
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: timer on anti theft systems that you know, brother, set

510
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: me free. So you got some homework to do, Joe,

511
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, go take care of it and you

512
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: call me and you be you'd be smart. Now, you

513
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: do the right thing.

514
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 6: Okay, hey, Ron, Well, one more thing real quick if

515
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 6: I could real quick. Okay, check this out my twenty

516
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 6: twenty five brand new semi tracks. The display is upside down.

517
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: Hang on a wait, I'm gonna hang on a second. Joe,

518
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back. We're gonna come back to this

519
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: because now you've got me confused. While you're driving a Saturn,

520
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: You've got a brand new car in the driveway. This

521
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: has to be a story. Joe, I love you a five, five,

522
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: five six nine nine zero zero. We'll be back to

523
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: talk to Joe right after this. I'm ronning Ay in

524
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: the car, doctor Joe in Michigan. Are you still there?

525
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: Yes?

526
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 6: I am right, I'm here, Joe.

527
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: Why are we driving a two thousand and seven Saturn? Well,

528
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: why are we trying to drive a two thousand and

529
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: seven Saturn when we've got a one year old Chevy

530
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: whatever in the driveway? And it's nice to see you

531
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: really a GM man? Did you work at the plant?

532
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: You must have?

533
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 3: Yes?

534
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 6: I do?

535
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: Yes?

536
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: I do you still do?

537
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 6: Yes? Yes?

538
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: What do you build?

539
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 6: We built Traverse, the Enclave in the kadio.

540
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

541
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: How long have you been at GM?

542
00:27:59,560 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: Eight years?

543
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

544
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 6: Not long, not long. I was the kind of I

545
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 6: was a late I was a late starter. Is it

546
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 6: in fifty six?

547
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: Is it fascinating?

548
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: Joe?

549
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, hell yeah, oh yeah right. I can't stop

550
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 6: looking at them robots.

551
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: Right.

552
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: It's it's staggering how they put cars together today, isn't it?

553
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 6: Yes? Yes, yeah. One thing, one thing. One thing I

554
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 6: don't like, Ron is I look at the side of

555
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 6: the part bens and Ron, who would not believe where

556
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 6: all these parts are coming from? Mexico, Canada, Korea, all

557
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 6: over the world. And I'm like, what happened? Like in

558
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 6: the seventies, we had all these GM plants around here

559
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 6: and we built our own parts.

560
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: Right, Well, this goes This is a much bigger conversation

561
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: the time we have. But I agree one hundred percent. Listen,

562
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm a North Jersey boy. I remember when GM's main

563
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: warehouse was in Englewood, New Jersey, and you know, everything

564
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: was here, and but that's you know, but that's yeah.

565
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. In my next life, I want

566
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: to go work at a GM assembly plant because I

567
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: am a GM guy from way back, and it's just

568
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: it's it's crazy stuff. So real quick, ask me, ask

569
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: me your Chevy tracks question.

570
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 6: From the display is upside down?

571
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: What do you mean? It's an inverted It's an inverted

572
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: it's an inverted display almost like the almost like the

573
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: screen is upside down, but it's not.

574
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 6: Yes, okay, no, no, it's it's upside down, but it

575
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 6: really is upside down?

576
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: Was it always? It wasn't always like that?

577
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 6: No? No, no, right, no right. And and I've been

578
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 6: I've been to four Chevy dealerships. They've they've never seen it.

579
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 6: And I was I was like, okay, am I the

580
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 6: only that's the problem.

581
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'm confused. This is this is a one year

582
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: old car. Yes, and how many and how many miles

583
00:29:59,720 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: are on?

584
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 6: I think like eight eight thousand?

585
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: So why aren't we taking Why aren't wait a minute,

586
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: time out? Why aren't we taking the display? Why aren't

587
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: we taking the control unit out and sending it out

588
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: to a GM rebuilt center and have them test it.

589
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 6: Oh I'm I'm in the process run picking it in,

590
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 6: but they have to keep it. And I've been trying

591
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 6: to get this Saturn going in.

592
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: Oh now it makes sense. Okay, now it makes sense. Joe.

593
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: I knew there was an answer. I knew there was

594
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: an answer that would make sense down here, somewhere at

595
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: the at the at the heart of this. So I'll

596
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: tell you what, Joe, Joe, stay on the line, give

597
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: Tom your information. I want to send you out a

598
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: card doctor T shirt. But here's the caveat all right?

599
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: Oh okay?

600
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: Can you? Can you wear anything you want to work?

601
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 6: Oh?

602
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right?

603
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: I want a picture of you on the assembly line

604
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: at the in my card doctor T shirt. We're going

605
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: to put it up on the Facebook page. I think

606
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: that'd be cool. So give us a good picture, give

607
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: us a good picture of putting something really crazy together.

608
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 6: All right, Joe, Oh heck yeah.

609
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: All right, stay on the line. Let Tom get your information.

610
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: It's fun talking to you. You'd be well, Joe.

611
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, thanks so much.

612
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: Ron, You're welcome, Joe. Be well. Yeah, you know what.

613
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I want to go take a

614
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: tour of a GM assembly plant. I think that would

615
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: be the craziest thing. I keep thinking I should have.

616
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: I probably couldn't do it anymore. But I had a

617
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: friend from high school who was a mid level engineer

618
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: for GM, and he always said, hey, GM knows who

619
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: you are. We want to come out to the Heritage Center.

620
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: We'll take you behind the scenes. I would have gone,

621
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: but the problem is I would have had to get

622
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: a bigger garage after I came home, because I'd buy

623
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: a few things while I try to buy a few

624
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: things while I was out there. You know, look at

625
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: that that Chevy's got a scratch in the fender. No

626
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: it doesn't, Yes it does. Okay, I'll take it half price.

627
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm running ady in the car. Doctor. I'll be back

628
00:31:51,760 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: right after this. My my, my, my, gosh. You know what,

629
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: maybe it's not too late for me. Maybe I couldn't

630
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: work in a GM assembly plant. Joe did it at

631
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: fifty six. I'd probably got another ten twelve years ago.

632
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: I want to talk about batteries to close out the

633
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: show today real quick, if I can. You know, the

634
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: battery is so misunderstood. And we've had a couple of

635
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: calls today, and we had a couple of calls in

636
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: the previous hour talking about batteries, and it's really the truth,

637
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's the battery is so misunderstood. It's

638
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: not the engine, it's not the transmission, it's not the computers.

639
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: It's the battery. And I understand that, because you know,

640
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: we all grew up in a time when batteries did

641
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: one thing. It started the car. You turned the key,

642
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: the engine cranked off, you went. The battery got weak,

643
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: you noticed it. The engine turned over slower and slower,

644
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: until one cold morning it wouldn't start. Simple, right, Yeah,

645
00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: today not so much. You know, the average vehicle needs

646
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 2: a minimum, a minimum of ten volts on a consistent

647
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: basis to operate. That's its minimum operating voltage. Some of

648
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: them will tolerate down to nine and a half volts,

649
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: but below nine and a half nothing happens. All right,

650
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: you might as well just un the unplugged the computer.

651
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: It's not gonna start. And we've seen more than a

652
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: few vehicles marginal issues problems where it's, hey, my car

653
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: doesn't start. It's not a cold day, it's not a

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00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: warm day. It just it just seems to crank funny

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00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: if it cranks it all and then it'll stop cranking

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00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: and I'll get nothing. And a lot of times it's

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00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: the battery. And every time when it's the battery, that

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00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: battery is over three years old, maybe four. So you know,

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00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: you've got to start to think about that because checking

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00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: the battery. Usually find out it's a marginal state of charge.

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00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's a failing capacity test. If you

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00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: were a runner, your lungs, you know, can't absorb anymore oxygen.

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Speaker 2: You're just worn out. You know. Every vehicle counts on

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00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: that battery. It's the foundation for everything your vehicle does,

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00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: every computer module, every sensor, every network on that car.

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00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: And cars today have three, four or five different communication networks.

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00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: That camera that we all hated at first and now love,

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00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: that radar unit up front that keeps us straight on

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00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: the road, the safety system, they're all dependent on one thing.

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Speaker 2: In you know, in order to start up the enterprise,

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00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: Captain Kirk always had to have a good battery, and

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00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: without that starter battery, it was just you know, Spock

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00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: and Scotty had to get out and push start it.

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00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: And you know that can't really happen on the road.

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00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: It couldn't happen in space either. Actually, the battery is

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00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: the heart of the system, and just like your heart,

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00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: when it starts to weaken, strange things happen. So think

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Speaker 2: about it. You know, maybe your transmission is shifting funny,

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00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: maybe the radio reboots, maybe the blind spot mirrors don't

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00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: work anymore. Maybe you get warning lights, but you don't

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00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: know why. I think about the battery. Like I said,

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00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: talk to your mechanic, read about it at allto batteries

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Speaker 2: dot com if you want to know how precise and

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Speaker 2: critical batteries are. But batteries really are the heart of

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Speaker 2: today's car. I'm running Ady in the car doctor. The

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Speaker 2: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you, he's a car doctor.

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