Speaker 1: Call from Tyler.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, what's up?
Speaker 3: Not the much?
Speaker 1: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: All right? What's your name?
Speaker 3: My name is Tyler.
Speaker 2: How can I get you today? Tyler?
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, I've got a lot going on right now.
Speaker 3: Actually it's a bit heavy, if that's all right.
Speaker 2: You know what. I drank a Celsius and half a
Speaker 2: bottle of diet Mountain Dew. So that's I'm on about
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty milligrams of caffeine. I feel alert,
Speaker 2: I feel awake, I feel I feel as though I'm
Speaker 2: going to try. I will try my best to tackle,
Speaker 2: to tackle a heavy thing. Let's let's give it a shot.
Speaker 3: Cool, let's go. Okay, So we'll start this off with
Speaker 3: at the end of last year, I was diagnosed with ADHD,
Speaker 3: depression and anxiety. Okay, in that I'm married and I
Speaker 3: have a three year old son. It's a little bit
Speaker 3: of information there. So after that diagnosis, I get on
Speaker 3: proper medications and get into a good therapist. I've been
Speaker 3: in therapy for a decade or so. I'm thirty four now.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, So I start doing that, and I'm starting
Speaker 3: to realize some things about my life looking back, and
Speaker 3: I realize that I have been for the past seven
Speaker 3: or eight years been in a both physically and emotionally
Speaker 3: abusive relationship, and for the past three years that has
Speaker 3: been occurring in front of my son.
Speaker 2: So this is with your wife, This is with my wife.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've been with her marriage for five years, together
Speaker 3: for ten.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So as I realize these things, I start kind of
Speaker 3: pushing back on some of the controlling, abusive types of
Speaker 3: things and trying to fix some stuff, and she just
Speaker 3: kind of starts to escalate and begins getting kind of
Speaker 3: like paranoid. Our son was born like right in the
Speaker 3: middle of COVID, so she's got like a pretty strong
Speaker 3: protective attachment over him and has been always kind of
Speaker 3: protective over him, but like doesn't let anybody else drive
Speaker 3: him around rarely. I'll ever lette anybody watch him if
Speaker 3: she's not around. And she started getting that way towards me.
Speaker 3: She had been accusing me of becoming psychotic after getting
Speaker 3: on my medications, which another little side thing. Just before
Speaker 3: I got on my medication, my best friend killed himself,
Speaker 3: So I kind of had a bit of a men
Speaker 3: breakdown because of that. So I think because of that
Speaker 3: occurring around the same time as the medication and me
Speaker 3: pushing back on stuff. She just thought I was going
Speaker 3: nuts or she's just nuts herself. I'm not really sure
Speaker 3: at this point, but anyway, she started getting more and
Speaker 3: more paranoid. She started calling the police to our house
Speaker 3: and telling them that she felt threatened by me. I've
Speaker 3: never done anything violent to her or the kid, but
Speaker 3: because she said she felt threatened, the police would make
Speaker 3: me leave. So for about a week or so she
Speaker 3: was doing that, so I wasn't able to see my
Speaker 3: son for that week. Anytime I would try and come home,
Speaker 3: she would leave. She would pack them on it begone. Yeah, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3: The last time that she called the police, they didn't
Speaker 3: recommend or tell me that I should leave, so I stayed.
Speaker 3: She asked if she could leave, they said yeah, she
Speaker 3: got in the car and left.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 3: A little over a month ago, and I haven't seen
Speaker 3: or heard from either of them since going out of me.
Speaker 2: You even seen or heard from your son or your
Speaker 2: wife in a month?
Speaker 3: They have contacted me or my wife has. She texted
Speaker 3: me once to remind me to water her plants while
Speaker 3: she was gone, and then another time to offer to
Speaker 3: do a video chat with him. But the wording and
Speaker 3: the message is really suspicious, and I had already been
Speaker 3: told by lawyers in my therapists not to respond to
Speaker 3: any contact. Shit pretty apparent that she's trying to like
Speaker 3: frame me for domestic violence or something. I'm not really
Speaker 3: sure what is going on in her head, but.
Speaker 2: Well, I I mean, first of all, oh, I'm sorry
Speaker 2: that all this is happening to you. Second of all,
Speaker 2: tell me more about what your therapists and lawyers are
Speaker 2: saying to you.
Speaker 3: Okay, So therapist says, no contact with her if she
Speaker 3: shows up, don't be alone with her. She said. His
Speaker 3: words were, I am at an extreme risk of being
Speaker 3: framed for domestic violence. So he said, don't be alone
Speaker 3: with her. And I've only actually managed to see he's
Speaker 3: I just started seeing him a month or two ago,
Speaker 3: so I've only no more than a month or two ago.
Speaker 3: Last month kind of doesn't really count for me right
Speaker 3: now because it's been such a fucking weird, fucked up thing,
Speaker 3: but two months like before then probably, so I've only
Speaker 3: seen him three or four times and never gotten on
Speaker 3: like a consistent schedule. So I've only seen him twice
Speaker 3: now since they left. So I haven't really been able
Speaker 3: to go over with it with him so much. But
Speaker 3: we're going to start seeing each other more or uh,
Speaker 3: now that shit's really hit the sands. But the police
Speaker 3: haven't really I haven't really been able to work with
Speaker 3: the police too much. They don't like I live in Michigan,
Speaker 3: so at least here, the police aren't allowed to like
Speaker 3: interfere in any kind of custody situation. And even if
Speaker 3: they are able to, it still has to go through
Speaker 3: the courts. And I think because she is telling them
Speaker 3: that I'm after her or hurt them or something, the
Speaker 3: cops aren't really talking to me all that much. They
Speaker 3: I think, caught on pretty quickly what was happening, so
Speaker 3: they can kind of like encode say things to me.
Speaker 3: But I've had to send a couple of wellness checks
Speaker 3: to her family here and there, so I kind of
Speaker 3: have like a general idea of where they might be.
Speaker 3: But I don't have a place where I could send
Speaker 3: somebody to serve her divorce papers or a restraining order
Speaker 3: or custody order or anything like that. But the lawyers
Speaker 3: are I found a good lawyer. I think he's a
Speaker 3: good lawyer. He seems to be doing everything they should be.
Speaker 3: We're just trying to like track her down at this
Speaker 3: point because I can't really do anything until I serve
Speaker 3: her papers.
Speaker 2: And what has anyone given you advice about how like
Speaker 2: you can get your son back?
Speaker 3: It's pretty much just get her to come back in
Speaker 3: one way or another. So the devor once she is served,
Speaker 3: she has to respond to the serve the service whatever
Speaker 3: process or whatever like in person, so she has to
Speaker 3: like come and sign something in front of a notary here,
Speaker 3: but that one she gets served. So it's just a
Speaker 3: matter of once we find her, then the clock kind
Speaker 3: of starts ticking because once she doesn't, if she doesn't
Speaker 3: respond to it, she'll be delinquent in the divorce. And
Speaker 3: then it just goes however I want it to. So
Speaker 3: I'm assuming she would come back, but I also never
Speaker 3: really assumed that she would kidnap my son.
Speaker 2: That is very heavy. Yes, that is very heavy.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: How how how how are you doing?
Speaker 3: Weird? It's very weird because, like I said, I'm in
Speaker 3: therapy now and I'm on proper medications, specifically h and
Speaker 3: at a pressant with working good for me shouts out symbaltah,
Speaker 3: So I like probably at least mentally besides the like
Speaker 3: constant hellish turmoil and doing what good as I've ever
Speaker 3: done my entire life. I'm like, and I think, like
Speaker 3: her being gone, I'm realizing how much of an effect
Speaker 3: just being in her relationship with an abusive person has
Speaker 3: on your self esteem and well being in general, I suppose,
Speaker 3: and for fucking eight years, practically tell.
Speaker 2: Me more about how you're doing. You're doing better than
Speaker 2: you ever have before.
Speaker 3: Well, I would love to tell you about that. So
Speaker 3: I'm like calling friends and like hanging out with people
Speaker 3: that for the past decade or so I've thought didn't
Speaker 3: like me anymore, but it was just because I wasn't
Speaker 3: calling them because I was in a controlling relationship. So
Speaker 3: I'm kind of realizing that I have. I mean, I've
Speaker 3: got three or four of my closest friends I've been
Speaker 3: friends with for fifteen years at least, my best friend
Speaker 3: I've been friends with for like twenty five years. And
Speaker 3: I've got a super supportive family. They're not really the
Speaker 3: most emotionally available, but they're supportive in all the ways
Speaker 3: that they know how So I'm kind of just like
Speaker 3: realizing my whole life, I've been kind of like my
Speaker 3: life sucks and nobody loves me and everything's terrible and
Speaker 3: there's no point. And then my son was born and
Speaker 3: I was kind of like, oh, yeah, here's the point.
Speaker 3: But it was still kind of not me. It wasn't
Speaker 3: about me still. But now I'm like, oh, I can
Speaker 3: like go out and do whatever the fuck I want
Speaker 3: whenever I want to, and I don't have to like
Speaker 3: ask permission to hang out with my friends or be
Speaker 3: worried about the repercussions of going and seeing a movie
Speaker 3: or a show. And I'm a musician. Music has always
Speaker 3: been like the most important thing in the world to me,
Speaker 3: and I'm like super excited about making music again. I
Speaker 3: haven't done it in like seven or eight years probably,
Speaker 3: and just getting back into that community and stuff. So
Speaker 3: oh that's good. But the son getting kidnapped in my
Speaker 3: abusive life kinds sucks still.
Speaker 2: Wow. So do you, I mean, looking back on it,
Speaker 2: do you attribute uh, falling out of touch with these
Speaker 2: friends and with music and with your family to your
Speaker 2: relationship with this person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Never like it was never like outright like
Speaker 3: you can't go and hang out with that person, But
Speaker 3: it was just like anytime I tried to make plans,
Speaker 3: it would turn into a fight, and then eventually the
Speaker 3: fight returning into me getting hit in front of the
Speaker 3: kid or something like that. And then it gets to
Speaker 3: the point where you're just like, well, I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: not ask anymore to avoid the conflict and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like I'm trying to give myself
Speaker 3: a little bit of grace because up until the end
Speaker 3: of last year, I wasn't a mentally stable person and
Speaker 3: I was kind of being controlled by another person. But
Speaker 3: still kind of stupid and for like putting up with
Speaker 3: it for so long, especially after the kid was born,
Speaker 3: I feel bad for letting him be around it for
Speaker 3: too long. But and then also after being in an
Speaker 3: abusive relationship like that, your self esteem is just so
Speaker 3: low and you're just so depressed you don't feel like
Speaker 3: doing anything anyways.
Speaker 2: How has your depression been like recently?
Speaker 3: I mean it's been since I got on the SYMBALTHA especially,
Speaker 3: I've been doing pretty good on that. I haven't like
Speaker 3: I used to and I didn't realize that this was
Speaker 3: a normal thing. But up until I got into therapy
Speaker 3: and medicated, I wouldn't like consider suicide, but it would
Speaker 3: be something that I was beyond my mind on practically
Speaker 3: a daily basis, Like just like just the thought passing
Speaker 3: through my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I realized, sorry, go ahead, why don't you finish? Oh?
Speaker 3: And then once and once I got into therapy and
Speaker 3: got on the medication, that kind of went away for
Speaker 3: the most part. And I think that's like the main thing,
Speaker 3: just like not thinking about my own death all of
Speaker 3: the time is probably good for my mental health, and
Speaker 3: like I just feel legitimately, like for the first time,
Speaker 3: I like can actually be happy. Like, uh, it's I'm
Speaker 3: like I said, it's really fucking weird because it's like
Speaker 3: I'm probably the most unhappy I've ever been my entire life. Also,
Speaker 3: but it's a really strange.
Speaker 1: Situation.
Speaker 2: I guess when you were when you were thinking about
Speaker 2: like dying all the time, what was like what was
Speaker 2: driving that? Was it like a were you thinking about
Speaker 2: certain events going on in and around your life, or
Speaker 2: was it just like your the fucking chemistry of your
Speaker 2: brain attacking you.
Speaker 3: I think it was a little bit of both. I
Speaker 3: think that I've got some pretty big issues from having
Speaker 3: ADHD my whole life and not knowing it because I
Speaker 3: kind of just like and I did all right in school,
Speaker 3: and at the time, that's how people like figured out
Speaker 3: if their kid had ADHD or not. So I think
Speaker 3: that's kind of how I squeezed by. But looking back
Speaker 3: now with like a clearer mind, I'm realizing, like, oh,
Speaker 3: I've been struggling with like everything my entire life. And
Speaker 3: because I didn't know that I had ADHD, I thought
Speaker 3: it was just because I was a fucking idiot or
Speaker 3: what good enough or didn't deserve to have whatever it
Speaker 3: was that I was trying to get. So that was
Speaker 3: going into the abusive relationship, the state of mind that
Speaker 3: I was in already, and then also depression and anxiety.
Speaker 2: Right, So that's what I was gonna ask you, is
Speaker 2: so this this is kind of a state of mind
Speaker 2: that you've had even before you met your wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the came around.
Speaker 2: When did you, like, at what point in your life
Speaker 2: did you start noticing you like had these like these
Speaker 2: these feelings and issues.
Speaker 3: I think I've kind of known my whole life. I've
Speaker 3: had this conversation with friends and girlfriends and other wives
Speaker 3: before about kind of just feeling like aliens sort of
Speaker 3: like I remember when I was really young, just always
Speaker 3: having that feeling of like everybody else seems to be
Speaker 3: different than I am, and it seems to make it
Speaker 3: so that they all get along and somehow I don't
Speaker 3: fit in there. So it was just always like kind
Speaker 3: of just like a general feeling of like I don't
Speaker 3: belong here just because like simple easy things, because I'm
Speaker 3: not like stupid, but there's a lot of real simple,
Speaker 3: easy things that I just couldn't do. And I'd be like, well,
Speaker 3: this is a thing that human beings seem to be
Speaker 3: able to do pretty easily, and I can't figure it out.
Speaker 3: And just like I had issues like communicating and expressing myself,
Speaker 3: and I think the biggest thing has been like not
Speaker 3: really ever because I would just kind of like, in
Speaker 3: order to feel like I was liked by other people,
Speaker 3: I would just kind of morph myself into what I
Speaker 3: thought that they wanted a cool person to be or whatever.
Speaker 3: So I ended up being and like a real like
Speaker 3: go with the flow, like fun kind of party guy,
Speaker 3: and that's how I figured out how to make people happier,
Speaker 3: fit in or whatever. But because I was always just
Speaker 3: going along with what everybody else is doing, I was
Speaker 3: never really figuring out what I wanted or what would
Speaker 3: make me happy. And then if I don't know what
Speaker 3: I want or what would make me happy, I can't
Speaker 3: ask or try and get it. So I think that's
Speaker 3: just kind of been preventing me from being happy my
Speaker 3: whole life.
Speaker 2: And so now at thirty four, you said, after therapy
Speaker 2: and after medication, you finally Well, I know you've kind
Speaker 2: of phrased it in this weird contradictory way, because obviously
Speaker 2: you're going through a lot of completely insane external circumstances
Speaker 2: right now. But the way you phrased it was that,
Speaker 2: in a weird way, you found this, Like do you
Speaker 2: feel like like you found this kind of freedom and
Speaker 2: happiness from these crazy mental circumstances.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely. It definitely feels like I have a
Speaker 3: lot more freedom, and I mean it is a lot
Speaker 3: of that's just because I literally don't have anyone to
Speaker 3: answer to right now. I went from having a toddler
Speaker 3: that I was chasing around, taking care of and all
Speaker 3: this stuff to absolutely nothing, which sucks in a lot
Speaker 3: of ways. But I can also play guitar as loud
Speaker 3: as I want, and I can listen to all my
Speaker 3: Deathcore records as loud as I want, and nobody can
Speaker 3: tell me to turn the wrestling off the TV.
Speaker 2: Have your SOCID thoughts gone away?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much completely. I haven't really. After my friend
Speaker 3: killed himself, there was like a week that I couldn't
Speaker 3: get my medication, but I probably had my closest brush.
Speaker 3: But since I've been on the meds, it's pretty much
Speaker 3: gone completely.
Speaker 2: What's your name again, Tyler? Tyler? Uh? I'm curious for
Speaker 2: anyone who might be listening to this, who who uh
Speaker 2: may may themselves be going insane? You know, as someone
Speaker 2: who who also you know, myself personally goes insane fairly often,
Speaker 2: and everybody's insane, and everybody is hopeful hopefully that one
Speaker 2: day they will not be going insane, and so as
Speaker 2: somebody who at least in this very moment, you know, again,
Speaker 2: despite pretty pretty nightmarish external circumstances, you seem to, at
Speaker 2: least from what I'm gathering from you be going uh
Speaker 2: less insane. Do you What would you say to those
Speaker 2: people and how they themselves can deal with these issues.
Speaker 3: I would definitely say go to therapy. I would definitely
Speaker 3: say talk to your doctor about potentially getting on medications,
Speaker 3: is that the kind of thing you're into talk to
Speaker 3: your friends, did just fucking talk to somebody, talk to anybody,
Speaker 3: Just talk to people about how you're feeling. Really, that's
Speaker 3: what I found since they left, Like there is a
Speaker 3: week or so that I was just kind of like
Speaker 3: hold up in the house, not doing anything, not talking
Speaker 3: to anybody. And at this point, like nobody knew about
Speaker 3: any of the abuse, and nobody really knew what had happened.
Speaker 3: They just knew that they were gone, and it was
Speaker 3: pretty fucking miserable. But the second that I just started
Speaker 3: talking to just anybody, and even if like nothing got resolved,
Speaker 3: even if they didn't say anything back, like I think,
Speaker 3: just going over it in your head at least especially
Speaker 3: at first when it's something like this crazy. Because it
Speaker 3: took me like a week or so just to even
Speaker 3: like actually like understand what was going on. It's going
Speaker 3: over it over and over and over in your head.
Speaker 3: And just because a lot of people try and avoid
Speaker 3: thinking about stuff and every now and then, yeah, you
Speaker 3: got to give yourself a break, but you're not going
Speaker 3: to get over anything if you're not working it out.
Speaker 3: So I would say the best thing that is for
Speaker 3: me and my mental health has been talking to my
Speaker 3: friends just about what's going on or just anything. Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean no, when you keep it in your head,
Speaker 2: you it just it just it goes exactly. It's not
Speaker 2: about uh like I guess the response. It's about like
Speaker 2: getting it out of your head and talking about it,
Speaker 2: because if it just stays in your head, it rattles
Speaker 2: and becomes a fucking hurricane.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And what I found was that in situations
Speaker 3: of abuse, if you don't talk about it and then
Speaker 3: it keeps going on for so long, you just get
Speaker 3: used to it and then you don't know that you're
Speaker 3: being abused. Because it took again like a week after
Speaker 3: they left for me to be like, oh shit, yeah,
Speaker 3: this has been an abusive relationship. And that was because
Speaker 3: I was talking to my friends about it, and just
Speaker 3: because I mean, and because she's been telling me it's
Speaker 3: been my fault and that it's because I make her
Speaker 3: mad and all these things that I do or whatever.
Speaker 3: And I believed her because I wasn't talking to anybody else.
Speaker 3: But the second I talked to anybody else, and I mean,
Speaker 3: I was feeling like I was a horrible father, a
Speaker 3: horrible husband. She made me feel fucking worthless every fucking day.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the second I started talking to people, I
Speaker 3: very quickly realize like, oh no, I'm the one that
Speaker 3: has been doing everything right and she's the evil person here.
Speaker 3: So just talking to people, you might even realize some
Speaker 3: huge thing that's been going on in your life for
Speaker 3: a fucking decade that you didn't even really have any
Speaker 3: idea about, and you'll feel better about it afterwards because
Speaker 3: he talked about it. But the therapist would be good.
Speaker 2: Too, Tyler, I'm going to pray for you, my brother.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that I'm not religious, and I was for
Speaker 3: a long time very anti religious, but I've grown to
Speaker 3: appreciate people praying for me.
Speaker 2: Hey man, neither am I I'm just I'm just praying.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to like, I'm not religious at all,
Speaker 2: but I'll just like, I'll just I'll just clasp my
Speaker 2: hands and shake them like a Morocca, and that's I
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: Occasionally, the Morocca, probably the Moraca prob like an actual
Speaker 3: Morocca would By God, would I hear you better if
Speaker 3: you did that?
Speaker 2: Tyler? Thanks for sharing all this stuff. This is this
Speaker 2: is really cool.
Speaker 3: Thank yeah, thanks for thanks for talking. I've been calling
Speaker 3: for several weeks and I think I may have been
Speaker 3: rude to you one time.
Speaker 2: Wait what do you think? Well? When?
Speaker 1: When?
Speaker 2: When? When were you rude to me?
Speaker 3: I think I got through. I wasn't sure because I
Speaker 3: was like going back and forth on my phone and
Speaker 3: I had called like a bunch of times and kept
Speaker 3: leaving different names, and then there was one that I
Speaker 3: was like, are you gonna fucking answer what? And then
Speaker 3: I switched back to the twitch and I heard like
Speaker 3: the very end of it, I think, And You're like, well,
Speaker 3: not if you're going.
Speaker 2: To be like that, And I was like, fuck, well,
Speaker 2: I forgive you.
Speaker 3: That's really why I called forgiven for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, you you were forgiven? Tyler. Okay, is there
Speaker 2: anything else you want to say to the people of
Speaker 2: the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Let's talk to people, talk to your friends, talk to
Speaker 3: your and also, if you go with your wife or
Speaker 3: husband or long term boyfriend or girlfriend a fun date
Speaker 3: night could be you could go to your local mental
Speaker 3: health facility and you could both take some sort of
Speaker 3: mental health exam to make sure that nobody is going
Speaker 3: to go insane and kid is that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if. I don't know if I would
Speaker 2: call that a date night, But that sounds pretty nice. Actually,
Speaker 2: that would be a fun first date to have.
Speaker 3: That would be fun.
Speaker 2: That'd be a fun I don't know if that. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's a good date night for a
Speaker 2: five year relationship, but it's probably a good thing to do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that would be a fun.
Speaker 3: Care of your mental health is what I would say
Speaker 3: to the people of the world. Good luck, Tyler, take
Speaker 3: care you too, thinks man.
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Speaker 2: I've spoken to a billion people, and all I really
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Speaker 1: From Sam.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, what is your name?
Speaker 1: My name is Kiwi or Kulley Sam.
Speaker 2: Either or what's going on? Sam?
Speaker 1: Oh? My god? I am I am freaking out right now.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry?
Speaker 2: How uh? How what would you? What did you? What
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Speaker 1: Give me one, give me one second month. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about moving to Australia. Oh, yeah, yeah, where
Speaker 1: from California?
Speaker 2: What's bringing you to Australia.
Speaker 1: I am leaving everything behind. I am sick and tired
Speaker 1: of the way my family treats me. And I've been
Speaker 1: talking to all my friends in Australia and they are
Speaker 1: so down to bring me over there.
Speaker 2: Okay. I have two questions. First of all, how old
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 1: I am twenty okay.
Speaker 2: And you just said I heard you just now. You
Speaker 2: were like, hey, mom, give me one second. You're with
Speaker 2: your mom right now.
Speaker 1: No, she just knocked on my door.
Speaker 2: Oh okay. And you why are you? What's wrong with
Speaker 2: the way that your family treats you?
Speaker 1: They are extremely religious, religious, and homophobic. So that's fun.
Speaker 2: Okay. And so let me understand. So you are do
Speaker 2: you have a job? Are you in school? I?
Speaker 1: I do. I did have a job. I just got
Speaker 1: fired like a week ago.
Speaker 2: Okay. What's tell me about the plan to move to Australia.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it's like a long story. But like for
Speaker 1: the past eight years or so ever, since like my
Speaker 1: stepdad came into the pictures, like my life has just
Speaker 1: been like terrible. Oh my god, I am I'm still
Speaker 1: geeking out right now. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: Are you all right?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you all right?
Speaker 4: Brother?
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm fine. I'm just like super excited. I
Speaker 1: have been a major fan of the show. I've I've
Speaker 1: watched you since uh the guy with the rivalry between
Speaker 1: the top Gobel and the McDonald Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a classic one. That's a classic one.
Speaker 1: I will get the Tugo bill.
Speaker 2: But so okay, so so sure, if you want to
Speaker 2: give me the backstory, you can give me the backstory.
Speaker 2: But then I'm curious about what the plan is to
Speaker 2: have how are you going to get there?
Speaker 1: So I am currently looking for a job, and I
Speaker 1: have like a couple aspects like up and coming. One
Speaker 1: of them is becoming a warehouse worker where I will
Speaker 1: be making twenty eight an hour because my neighbor is
Speaker 1: actually getting me that.
Speaker 2: Job twenty eight astro twenty eight Australian dollars an hour,
Speaker 2: no American. Oh, it's actually that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And hopefully you know he's like he's not like
Speaker 1: a hiring manager there, but he's like up in rank
Speaker 1: at that company. So hopefully by the end of this
Speaker 1: week I should be hearing back from him or like
Speaker 1: the company, and you know, it's looking pretty promising. So
Speaker 1: twenty eight dollars an hour, ten hour workdays, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be crazy. I'm gonna be fucking loaded and I'm going
Speaker 1: to be So we're like, me and my Australian friends
Speaker 1: were kind of like still talking about it, but we're
Speaker 1: hoping to have me over there by March.
Speaker 2: And what's in where? Well a few questions. Where in
Speaker 2: Australia gone Adelaide, Adelaide, Adelaide? Hell yeah, I went to
Speaker 2: Adelaide a year ago. It's a fun, fun town. How
Speaker 2: what's the visa ship looking like?
Speaker 1: Uh, we're we're just gonna get We're we had we're
Speaker 1: talking about that currently. We're like they're giving me all
Speaker 1: the information that I need personally to get over there,
Speaker 1: but there's still like plans in motions that I have
Speaker 1: to do before that because I am a trans person
Speaker 1: male to female, So part one of this plans it's
Speaker 1: already in motion. I have my like specialist appointment to
Speaker 1: get me on hormones coming up within the next three weeks.
Speaker 1: It's going to be August, I believe. The twenty second
Speaker 1: is when I go in to see my specialist.
Speaker 2: Wait, but how is this is this related to the
Speaker 2: visa situation of how you have how you're gonna get
Speaker 2: to Australia.
Speaker 1: No, okay, so this is like plans before I go
Speaker 1: to Australia. Like we're we're talking. We're talking like we're
Speaker 1: getting me on the prescription so that it's easier for
Speaker 1: me to get it in Australia and I don't have
Speaker 1: to go through the entire process again. Sure, and then
Speaker 1: after that it's going to be a legal name change.
Speaker 1: After that, that's when we're going to do the visa
Speaker 1: m And everything is being so fast, and it's just
Speaker 1: like it's looking super promising.
Speaker 2: That's very exciting. I think, well, look, I think if
Speaker 2: you have a job lined up there and you have
Speaker 2: friends lined up there, I think twenty is actually a
Speaker 2: pretty good age to be like fuck it, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna leave my where I live and go to Australia.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I mean, like seriously, like the other night, like it's
Speaker 1: always something in this house, Like I can just be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go out with like by myself or
Speaker 1: something like I'm a I'm a big magic the Gathering fan.
Speaker 1: So when I was working, I would go to like
Speaker 1: pre releases and tournaments and stuff like that. And it
Speaker 1: was always an issue with like my mom and stepdad.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, well, when are you going to come back?
Speaker 1: When is this? When is that? I'm like, I'm twenty
Speaker 1: years old already, Like you don't have to be on
Speaker 1: my ass, like I'm going to be home before like ten.
Speaker 2: Well that's well, well, well, well what's your name again?
Speaker 1: My name is Sam?
Speaker 2: Sam? Well Sam, that's less of an issue of that's
Speaker 2: just like in life. In life, it's like, look, all
Speaker 2: you have to do to not be under your parents
Speaker 2: rule is like, you know, make enough money that you
Speaker 2: don't have to live at their house, you know, no,
Speaker 2: And it sounds like and it sounds like you have
Speaker 2: an I mean, look, if you're telling if what you're
Speaker 2: telling me is true, and you can line up a
Speaker 2: twenty eight dollars an hour, twenty eight US dollars an
Speaker 2: hour job working in Adelaide and uh, you know, you
Speaker 2: don't have to go bankrupt. I have no idea what
Speaker 2: the you know, uh bureaucracy of of you know, going
Speaker 2: to work in Australia. I don't know how expensive it
Speaker 2: is and job. But if you tell me that, if
Speaker 2: you tell me that everything is working out really well.
Speaker 2: Then I'm incredibly excited for you. This sounds sounds really cool.
Speaker 1: The job, the job is here in the States, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to save up at least eight.
Speaker 4: Grand, at least eight grand and eight So so you're
Speaker 4: so you have a job lined up in California.
Speaker 2: This is not in Australia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is in California.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought you were moving. I thought you
Speaker 2: had a job lined up in Australia.
Speaker 1: No, I wish, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So okay, So this is a long term plan that
Speaker 2: you're talking about here.
Speaker 1: This is like a year top plan.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So we are going to work at this.
Speaker 2: We're gonna work fucking whatever fifty hours a week at
Speaker 2: our warehouse job in California. We're gonna live at our parents' house,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna save up a bunch of money until
Speaker 2: we can eventually afford to move to Australia. That's what
Speaker 2: you're telling me.
Speaker 1: Yes, I like that plan.
Speaker 2: I think that's a cool plan.
Speaker 1: And you want to know what the best part of
Speaker 1: that plan is. I'm leaving without saying.
Speaker 2: A word to your family, to my family.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna disappear in the night I'm leaving. All
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is gonna leave a note be like
Speaker 1: I'm out ease pieces. Fuck you guys.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry to hear that you're not getting along
Speaker 2: with your family.
Speaker 1: It's always been an issue with my family, to be honest.
Speaker 2: So the plan, So have you looked into what the
Speaker 2: costs are of immigrating to Austria.
Speaker 1: We have so to get a visa. I believe it's
Speaker 1: like three fifty. They told me to like just apply
Speaker 1: for it. You have to put down like three fifty
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, And so the plan, what are you gonna do
Speaker 2: when you get to Adelaide?
Speaker 1: First thing when I get to Adelaide, I'm moving in
Speaker 1: with my friend sharky mm hmm. And like first week
Speaker 1: of me getting situated, you know, we're gonna go to
Speaker 1: like a furniture store, get me a bed. Like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm selling everything like within this year that I that
Speaker 1: I'm that I plan on leaving. I'm selling everything that
Speaker 1: I have, my TV, my PlayStation, fucking books, anime like
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: Shoot, people want okay.
Speaker 1: To also like contribute to the fund.
Speaker 2: So do you have plans for like what, By the way,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying. Here's here's here's like what I like.
Speaker 2: My genuine feeling is like I think that you know,
Speaker 2: at twenty is actually a pretty good age to be like,
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm gonna move to Adelaide with no plan
Speaker 2: and just fucking get there and then I'll figure it
Speaker 2: out from there. I actually like that idea. I just
Speaker 2: I'm just like, Okay, how do we get a baseline
Speaker 2: so that you don't uh starve and die or honestly
Speaker 2: even less even less dramatic than that, just you like,
Speaker 2: you know, having to be like I don't know, dependent
Speaker 2: on your friends for money or like just shit like that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You don't want to You
Speaker 2: just don't want to get You just want to like
Speaker 2: you know, you are like like I like again again,
Speaker 2: I like the idea of taking a big risk, but
Speaker 2: I would plan it out, legit sticklarly enough so you're like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to end up in like a fucking
Speaker 2: situation where you know, shark heat turns out to be
Speaker 2: crazy and you know I have to rely on them
Speaker 2: for said you know, you just know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, I know what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: but it's like I'm gonna have enough money to where
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to rely on them. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: I want to save up eight thousand, at minimum eight
Speaker 1: thousand US d and I believe that translates to like
Speaker 1: nine or ten k in aud.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, can you say that one more time?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna save up about eight thousand US dollars And
Speaker 1: I believe I found that too, like I wouldn't. Don't
Speaker 1: take my word for it, but I believe it translate
Speaker 1: is to like nine to ten k and aud.
Speaker 2: Aud Australian dollars are worth sixty five percent. If you
Speaker 2: you take an Australia, you take whatever you have in
Speaker 2: US dollars and you divide it by point sixty five
Speaker 2: and that's what you got in Australia.
Speaker 1: I thought it was more. Wait, do you have Google
Speaker 1: or divide it? Is it times? Did? I thought it
Speaker 1: was time you divide it?
Speaker 2: You divide it. So you take your eight thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: you divide you you go in your calculator app, you
Speaker 2: type eight thousand divided by point sixty five and that
Speaker 2: is how much you will have in Australian dollars.
Speaker 1: No, but I mean one one American dollars is sixty
Speaker 1: sixty seven cents in aud I believe.
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't think you're you will have If you
Speaker 2: take your American money, you will have more and converted
Speaker 2: to Australian dollars it will be more money. Yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're on the same page. Whatever. Whatever we're arguing about
Speaker 2: something that's google We're not arguing. We're discussing something that
Speaker 2: is googleable. But anyway, whatever, math aside, what are you
Speaker 2: gonna do when you get when you get.
Speaker 1: There, I don't I don't know. I think I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna live life like I'm gonna enjoy life the fullest. Finally,
Speaker 1: spread my wings man, you know. Cool cool, And also,
Speaker 1: don't tell the Australian government. But I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be smuggling weed seeds.
Speaker 2: Sam, I'm gonna give you some advice, all right, Okay, you,
Speaker 2: as you are attempting to immigrate into this country, I
Speaker 2: strongly advise you keep no secrets from the Australian governments.
Speaker 1: But but I mean, come on, how am I gonna
Speaker 1: live without looking to weeds?
Speaker 2: Weeds isn't weed. We's fucking legal in Australia, isn't it?
Speaker 1: No, it's not.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll find Listen, you, you, you and sharky. You
Speaker 2: can probably find weed in about two seconds. You don't
Speaker 2: need to bring it a seed. You don't need to
Speaker 2: shove seeds up your ass and bring them to Australia.
Speaker 1: Hey, I never said anything about shoving them up my ass.
Speaker 2: Okay again saying look, I'm excited for you. I just uh,
Speaker 2: you know, don't don't don't don't do anything to pissed
Speaker 2: off Australia, right because you like you don't wanna, don't
Speaker 2: don't smuggle weed into Australia.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe, okay, okay, maybe the second time I come
Speaker 1: back to Australia. Let's say I go back to California.
Speaker 1: Let's say I forget something or you know, I go
Speaker 1: back for some reason, some some reason, some way, I
Speaker 1: go back. Right, Can I can?
Speaker 2: I can I give you? Can I give you another?
Speaker 2: Can I give you another piece of advice?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: Have you thought about? You've never been there? Right? I
Speaker 2: have not considered you can? Have you considered taking a
Speaker 2: trip before you move?
Speaker 1: I have not, But plane tickets are like super expensive.
Speaker 1: It's like two K right now, and I'm just for
Speaker 1: a one way.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, so you have about so so you've
Speaker 2: you've decided that Okay, logistically, if I stay in my
Speaker 2: family house for a year, then I'll have enough to go.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Why do you want to leave your family with? Why
Speaker 2: do you why do you want to leave your family
Speaker 2: without saying anything to them?
Speaker 1: Because like the it's it's hard like living here, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like ninety nine percent sure after I hang up
Speaker 1: the phone with you, my mom's gonna be like, who
Speaker 1: the fuck are you on the phone with talking about Australia? Okay,
Speaker 1: Like okay, so my my my parents are very transphobic,
Speaker 1: like they said, if I'm ever to start start that
Speaker 1: whole thing, you know, I will never be welcomed in
Speaker 1: their house.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that. I I genuine I really am.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm very sorry to hear that. I think
Speaker 2: it's a bummer that your family, Uh you know it
Speaker 2: doesn't is like that. So yeah, uh but I just
Speaker 2: again the really the theme of what I am trying to
Speaker 2: get at in this is that you know, I'm as
Speaker 2: good that you're excited, but make sure you got your
Speaker 2: logistics down before you just move one way to a
Speaker 2: foreign country. But again, I mean, it's worked out for
Speaker 2: some people, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just don't die, I mean how I mean, the only
Speaker 1: way I die getting to Australia is if the plane
Speaker 1: crashes or if I have a fucking panic attack on
Speaker 1: a plane and have a heart attack. Also, I've never
Speaker 1: flown in a plane before, so that's that's also fun.
Speaker 2: Just I guess the thing that worries me is you're like,
Speaker 2: is you're like, fuck it, I'm gonna go one way
Speaker 2: and you know, I'll stay it my homies house and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring we there. But don't tell anyone.
Speaker 1: Hey, you're you're you're revealing the secret man.
Speaker 2: Come on, don't keep secrets Sam for the don't keep
Speaker 2: any secrets from the Australian government. All right, Well, okay,
Speaker 2: before we go, is there any other aspect of this
Speaker 2: that you wanted to talk about or think through or
Speaker 2: anything like that.
Speaker 1: I want to know what you think about it. Should
Speaker 1: I should I at least give a goodbye?
Speaker 2: Should you at least give a goodbye to your family?
Speaker 2: That I actually was thinking about that because you told
Speaker 2: me that you were gonna leave without saying a note,
Speaker 2: and I was trying to think about what I think
Speaker 2: about that. At the end of the day, It's like,
Speaker 2: to me, what would make you feel good?
Speaker 1: Right? Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about what would make you feel
Speaker 2: good in the moments. I'm talking about you know, when
Speaker 2: you're older and you look back on everything, like, what
Speaker 2: what's the decision that's going to make you feel like
Speaker 2: you did everything you could?
Speaker 1: Right? Well? I mean well, like from my perspective, right,
Speaker 1: I see it as like, you know, like if I'm
Speaker 1: to start doing what i want to do with my body,
Speaker 1: I'm not welcome to see my family ever again. And
Speaker 1: you know, it kind of sucks because I do have
Speaker 1: younger siblings, you know, like I've seen both of them
Speaker 1: grow up and to know that, like, if I'm to
Speaker 1: do what I want to do, if I want to
Speaker 1: be happy, I can't see them be happy, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense.
Speaker 2: Your siblings, Yeah, how old are your siblings?
Speaker 1: I have a thirteen year old sister and a six
Speaker 1: year old little brother.
Speaker 2: Okay, and are you cool with them? You have a
Speaker 2: good relationship with them?
Speaker 1: My sister for sure, okay, and not your brother well,
Speaker 1: I mean he's younger. You know, I'm always like watching him.
Speaker 2: So when you say you're going to leave without saying anything,
Speaker 2: does that mean you're going to not say anything to
Speaker 2: them too?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like I might tell my
Speaker 1: sister Ruby, but at the same time, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to break her heart.
Speaker 2: Well again, I'll ask you again. I mean, what do
Speaker 2: you think would make you feel is the right way
Speaker 2: to move forward? Also also also you have a year
Speaker 2: to think about this.
Speaker 1: I do have a year to think about this. But
Speaker 1: it's like, God, it's like with how fast everything's moving
Speaker 1: right now, It's just like it time's gonna fly.
Speaker 2: How fast is everything moving? Yeah, you don't even have
Speaker 2: any of the anything, but I have you have you
Speaker 2: have you applied for an Australian visa yet?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Not yet?
Speaker 2: Okay, dog, dog, this ain't moved. Dog, this ain't moving
Speaker 2: as fast as you think it is. If you all
Speaker 2: have any of the paperwork or the job or the
Speaker 2: like it like it's all again, I really like, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a downer. I believe in
Speaker 2: the vision, but like Jesus not You're not moving to
Speaker 2: Australia tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know that, but it's like, like,
Speaker 1: for the next year, I'm going to have to hide
Speaker 1: my medication from fucking everyone because remember I'm seeing a
Speaker 1: specialist on the twenty second of this month, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to go black ops. Okay, it's secret operation.
Speaker 2: Well I again, I'm I'm sorry that your your family
Speaker 2: has has made the mistake of uh, of their love
Speaker 2: being conditional.
Speaker 1: It's always been that way. I mean, I've gotten used
Speaker 1: to it. Like I've been called the F slurry, the
Speaker 1: T slurry, you know, being told I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: hell because I want to live this way, and it's
Speaker 1: just like I hear it so often. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe you're right, but like, at least I'm gonna be happy.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say or talk
Speaker 2: about or anything like that before we go? Uh?
Speaker 1: I do want to say one thing because I know
Speaker 1: my coworker who made me lose my job listens to
Speaker 1: the podcast.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So like I, like I said at the beginning of
Speaker 1: this call, I lost my job and this is because
Speaker 1: a girl at my work who is a terrible person
Speaker 1: to work with. She'll make her dumb ass comments like oh,
Speaker 1: you're fat, you're this, you're that, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: can you do shut the fuck up. I'm trying at
Speaker 1: work right. She even told me I was going to
Speaker 1: hell one. You know, I know she listens to this podcast.
Speaker 1: So fuck you, Jackie, you big back bitch. I fucking
Speaker 1: hate you.
Speaker 2: No, No, Sam, don't do Sam. Don't Sam. I want
Speaker 2: to Sam.
Speaker 1: Look, okay, you can cut that out. You can cut
Speaker 1: that out. You can cut that out.
Speaker 2: No, dude, it's just like.
Speaker 1: Dude, he accused me of stealing from the store.
Speaker 2: Look, fucking let them. I don't know. I'm Sam. I
Speaker 2: I I'll Sam, I I I really uh I. I hope,
Speaker 2: I'll hope you're find happiness in your life.
Speaker 1: I am happy. I am happy. I am happy.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to I'm happy to hear that. Well, good luck.
Speaker 2: I hope you make many Australian dollars. I hope you.
Speaker 2: You know you get to hang out in the Kangaroo's
Speaker 2: pouch and uh you to Koala and do all the
Speaker 2: fun things you get to do over there. Have a
Speaker 2: good night, Sam.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, Lyle.
Speaker 2: What what's up?
Speaker 1: One thing before I go okay, I want to thank
Speaker 1: you for everything you've done, man like best. You've gotten
Speaker 1: me through some tough ship.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 1: The calls are the best, and man, I just want
Speaker 1: to thank you for having me on again, like you
Speaker 1: don't talk for no I have called you literally just today,
Speaker 1: I called you two hundred and twenty times just to get.
Speaker 2: In Well, Sam, thanks for listening, good good luck. Just
Speaker 2: I just hope, I hope it all works out for you.
Speaker 2: All right, have a good night, Say.
Speaker 1: Thank you you too, Love you.
Speaker 2: That was interesting. I have a lot of thoughts about that. Again,
Speaker 2: I want to reiterate a few things. One is, I
Speaker 2: genuinely do believe that if there ever was a time
Speaker 2: to move to a foreign country and abandon all you know,
Speaker 2: it's probably like high risk decisions are probably better made
Speaker 2: when you're younger than when you're older. You know, you
Speaker 2: don't have kids, you don't have a family, you don't
Speaker 2: really have any responsibility. You're really only responsibility is to
Speaker 2: eat enough food and sleep inside enough that you don't die.
Speaker 2: So as long as you can, as long as you
Speaker 2: can meet that responsibility, you're probably good. I the whole
Speaker 2: thing about like whether or not Sam should say goodbye
Speaker 2: to their family. I was really thinking about that because
Speaker 2: it is a bummer when you're when your family is like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a family's fight and there's you know,
Speaker 2: things that people like don't like or don't approve of
Speaker 2: or whatever, and you can kind of like reconcile that,
Speaker 2: but to have it like be at the point where
Speaker 2: like you can't be in I can't. I won't be
Speaker 2: in your life anymore, you know, I won't. You know,
Speaker 2: even if I don't approve of this thing or don't
Speaker 2: like this, it's it's not even like I don't approve,
Speaker 2: but like of you know, you're my you're my child,
Speaker 2: like that nothing will ever change that, you know. I
Speaker 2: think when it goes beyond that to a point of
Speaker 2: like you can't be in the house, you can't fucking
Speaker 2: call me, it's it's sad. But I'm also like Sam
Speaker 2: was saying a bunch of things where I was like, slow,
Speaker 2: slow down for a second. Here, let's let's let's make
Speaker 2: sure we know the conversion rate of the currency first.
Speaker 2: Uh know, the bureaucracy involved in doing the stuff that
Speaker 2: we want to do, So I don't know I hope.
Speaker 2: I hope they're all right. I hope they do stuff,
Speaker 2: and I hope everything works out. I like I like Adelaide.
Speaker 2: Shout out to uh, where the fuck did I do
Speaker 2: my show? There? The Lions something. I had a good time,
Speaker 2: so yeah. Shout out Australia, Shout out life, God bless
Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse. Rep Ken goes on the line, taking your
Speaker 2: phone calls every night. The Repink goes to on his eye.
Speaker 2: He's teaching you a loud in the mid of your life,
Speaker 2: but he's not really an expert.