WEBVTT - Part Two: The Ivermectin Episode 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:06.319 Welcome to Behind the Bastards, the podcast that's a podcast 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:15.680 legally supposed to that, Jamie, There's no getting around it. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.480 This is absolutely this is a podcast where a man 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.560 in an animal onesie depresses me over zoom, a man 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.240 in an animal onesie who also bragged about eating fresh 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:32.520 grapes during our little break. I kind of liked that. Yeah, yeah, 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:41.120 what I watch the Golden Girls, Jamie, Oh wait, what 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.720 do you say that? I do? Know? What did is? Now? Wow? Wow, 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.760 that's good. That's good Golden Girls. You know, people say 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:51.479 they learned nothing from Golden Girls except um, you know, 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:54.320 amazing sex tips. I learned a lot about Golden Girls 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.440 from you did. It's the biggest lesson you would say 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:02.560 you learned from the Golden Girl, Robert, is it always 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:07.240 your grapes? If you've killed somebody and you need to 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.320 get rid of the body, you don't want to use 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.120 a normal hack saw, right, You want to use like ideally, 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.280 like a reciprocating saw of some sort. And then the 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.720 other problem you're gonna have, Right, you can't just chop 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.280 the body up and then deal with the pieces. Ship's 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.280 gonna spray, so you're gonna have to cover a wide 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.720 hilarious scene. I didn't learn that from the show, but 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.720 I did learn that from one of the Golden Girls 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.240 when we killed together. I learned that from the Jinks. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.759 That's another perfect murder in the Jinks. Well, really, speaking 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:46.440 of murder, do you want to continue talking about this topic? Yes? 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:59.200 Um so, Jamie? Yes? What is a podcast? Oh? What? Oh? Well, 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:05.000 it's where a series of sort of charismatic but maybe 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:11.720 not that charismatic group of Charlatan's. Uh sell you a mattress? Oh, Jamie, 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.520 I'm glad you brought up mattress is because Casper Mattress 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:20.440 has a new offer right now. Really, the only way 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.839 that finally the mattress that eats your ass, because I've 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.640 been waiting exactly at Jamie. It is the mattress that 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.520 eats ass, whether you ask for it or not. This 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:36.040 mattress doesn't ask consent. It just goes for it. See that, 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:40.760 I It just goes for it. Just there's so many 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:45.680 scenarios where that is going to be a problem. Well, Jamie, 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.680 if you want the mattress that asks for consent before 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.800 eating your ass, then you want a perfect distress. That's 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:56.440 the purple The purple matters checks. I've heard that its 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:04.040 purple mattress very considerate leves for it. Now what the 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.800 purple mattress great at consent? Checks can't talk about emotions. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:12.600 The casper really emotionally open and has access to pretty 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.280 good ketamine, so so the pup. So the purple mattress 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.079 is cheaper, but you you will have to pay for it. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.519 In terms of dragging it to to therapy. You're definitely 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.040 not going to get it to therapy easily. And again, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.400 the casper has access to cheap ketamine. So that's the 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.160 great thing about happen Jamie. If you want a mattress 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.200 that eat your ass, you have a choice, and that's 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.560 what makes this the best system in the world. Are 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.560 you glad that we got this sorted out? Because I've 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.400 been sometimes there's just questions that you know that your 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.160 friend will be able to answer for you, but you 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.520 just don't really know how to like start the conversation. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.080 You know, I can't call text you saying which mattress 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:58.520 eats the best ass? But I know you knew answer, 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.960 you know, But we have choice. That's what's beautiful we 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.920 have in Venezuela. You're lucky if you get one mattress 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.680 that eats your ass M and I we're very lucky 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.240 here we get to choose our ass eating mattresses. And 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.200 you know what else we get in America? Jamie loftus, 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:17.000 what is this metaphor? What? What? Oh? Wait, yes, now 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:21.160 I see what you're saying, Joe Rogan. Yes, yes, and 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:22.960 you get a choice too. You can either listen to 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:27.800 Joe Rogan give you inappropriate healthcare advice, or you can 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.600 just not listen to him and be quietly affected by 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.600 everything he says, because his influence is so great that 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:38.679 even if you don't like him personally, epidemic rates uh, 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.440 that will affect you and potentially derail your life. Will 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.880 will still I don't know. Here's a clip of Joe 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.680 Rogan announcing that he's tested positive for COVID nineteen got 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.640 tested and turns out I got COVID. So we immediately 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.800 through the kitchen sank out of all kinds of meds, 0:04:55.880 --> 0:05:05.640 monoclonal antibodies, iver mect ins, pack uh, pregnizone, everything. Oh yeah, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.200 keep it on a loop, baby. So this is God? 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:14.279 Also from why is this a thing with like gen 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:19.480 xers that it's like everything is from the least flattering 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.680 angle possible. What is that? What is the up angle? 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:27.520 You know? The more so easy to catch a better angle, 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.200 you know? Yeah, But the shittier the angle, the more 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:36.599 it looks authentic. I guess. Yeah. Oh, that's how Joe 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.120 Rogan tells us he's one of us. He's one of us. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.279 He's one of us, just with an extra or so 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:46.479 million dollars Jamie sick. Yeah. If you're a person with 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.599 a reasonable grasp on observable reality, you will note that 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.320 Joe wrote in there specified that he'd used his rich 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.599 person powers to take every available treatment, and some of 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:59.680 those treatments are real medicines. Monoclonal antibodies absolutely do some 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.280 ship it um now, they were almost certainly unnecessary to him, 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.560 because it sounds like he may just have had asymptomatic 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.280 COVID and maybe all he needed to do with self 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.400 isolate for a little while um, which he did do, 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.360 I think. But monoclonal antibodies probably not necessary for him. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.440 But if you have actually do get sick, can be 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.560 very helpfully than life saving saving. On the other hand, 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.800 the data suggests that iver mectin probably doesn't again not 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.600 solid solidified yet we may find that there's some treatment 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.000 case for it yet in the future, but certainly not 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.599 the same amount of evidence that there is for monoclonal antibodies. Now, 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.600 being a healthy guy with access to the best healthcare 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.000 on the planet, Joe was always likely to survive COVID 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:41.599 without much of an issue. And again he may have 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:45.240 just had an asymptomatic case or mostly a symptomatic case. 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.080 But because he took iver bactic alongside everything else, his 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.360 example is going to spur huge numbers of people who 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.280 can't afford monoclonal antibodies or around the clock medical observation, 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.200 but can afford to go down to the fucking feed store. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.880 And that's again part of the problem, right. This is 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:05.279 how the intellectual dark web launders deadly misinformation, because if 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.159 you were to hold Joe's feet to the fire on this, 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.040 he would say, well, look, I didn't say take ivermectin 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.320 if you're sick. I said, we're going to do all 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.520 of the different things. You know, we tried everything. We 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.800 tried all of the different medications. Um, And if question, 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.880 I'm sure he would also explain that his iver mectin 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.120 was prescribed by a doctor and that there are doctors 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.880 like the fl C c C who will advise taking 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.480 iver mectin ethan as a prophylactic. He also took a 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.880 treat with lonxiety. YadA, YadA, YadA. But again, a lot 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.320 of the people listening are either just kind of here 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.600 that he endorsed iver macten or of all of the 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.200 things he listed, the only one they can afford is 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:46.280 ivermectin m It's great. So yeah, it's good, Jamie, We're 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.640 not good again. This is why the world is domed. So. 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.800 The Intellectual dark Web or i d W is a 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.120 term that was quote coined by a guy named Eric 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.200 Weinstein to describe himself and a loose alliance of other 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.840 right wing thought leaders who generally tended to not be 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:06.160 right wing. So embarrassing you came up with your own 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:11.400 name for what you when you don't think that's like 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:18.280 naming your band corn with a K. No except Corn rocks, Yeah, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.480 corn does rock. No hate to corn, don't. I get 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.560 nothing against corn, either the food or the band. So 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.920 just an embarrassing name. It is an embarrassing name, but whatever, 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:35.600 so is Jesus Christ God smack. I heard gods that. Yeah, 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.000 that is pretty embarrassing. You know what, anyone with a 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.240 band name, it's if you think hard enough about it, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.640 it gets embarrassing. I think Jamie and I are agreed. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:49.720 The concept of music is cringe. Honestly, I'm glad someone 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:54.920 said it because I don't appreciate our die alone in 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:59.440 a small room. Come on, no one asked about your feelings. York. 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:05.040 I'm kid, I love I worship York. York rocks. Jamie 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.800 and she didn't need and she didn't need to. She 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.320 she she just goes by her name versus Corn or 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:16.520 god Smack Jonathan Godsmack has as much of a right 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.439 to his name as Yorks. There of the Boston god Smacks, 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:24.120 I believe the Boston gods kind of when I have 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.840 a kid and name it god Smack, now just have 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:32.040 to say that ship so Smack Evans god Smack get 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:36.120 down here, because I've never listened to one of their songs, 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:37.760 and I know that would be a lot of people's 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:43.040 first question. Oh see, yeah, maybe interesting. Maybe that is 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:44.960 why I've been put on this earth, is to spread 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:49.120 the good word of god Smack. It's because they're from Massachusetts? 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.000 Is that how I know who they are? So my 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.600 uncle would bring us to their concerts. Yeah, you know who. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:59.400 What's not from Massachusetts is the intellectual dark Web, So 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.959 that actually a relief. I DW started out I think 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.400 around two that's an eighteen by branding itself as a 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.400 reaction to and a rejection of authoritarian left wing trends. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.959 They defined these as cancel culture would be a big one. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.440 Respect for trans people would be another big one. The 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.800 fact that groups of marginalized people get angry when you 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:23.960 question whether or not there, you know, deserve rights. The 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.760 fact that people get angry at that is authoritarian to 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:33.920 the I DW. So Barry Weiss, who used to be Yeah, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.160 she's the one who popularized the term intellectual dark web 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.680 for a tween article for The Times, and ever since, 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.000 the luminaries of the I DW have position themselves opposite 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.840 the left on every conceivable social issue. Now, I don't 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.560 give Barry Weiss credit for much, but in that first 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.440 article on the I d W, she did identify what 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.040 would come to be a problem with the intellectual dark web. Quote. 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.400 I share the belief that our institutional gatekeepers need to 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.000 crack the it's open much more. I don't, however, want 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.880 to live in a culture where there are no gatekeepers 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.320 at all. Given how influential this group is becoming, I 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.559 can't be alone in hoping the I d W finds 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.880 a way to issue the cranks, grifters and bigots and 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:18.080 sticks to the truth seeking spoiler. They would not Berry, 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:25.240 that's our berry. Just kidding, I don't, I can't standard. Okay, 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.959 that's a lukewarm take and it's and it's bari. But 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:36.360 that's okay, you know what, you know what I could? Yeah, yeah, 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:41.840 buck it. So. Eric Weinstein, who named the I d W, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.600 is the managing director of Teal capital Um. So he's 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:49.480 a real, real upstart truth teller really on the he 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.800 just manages billions of dollars in wealth. You know, he's 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.719 a he's an insurgent. He's an outsider. He's not like 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:01.160 the rest of us. He has he's not like those 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:09.600 rich journalists working for I don't know slate. He's not 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:14.120 like other girls. So Eric has a brother named Brett, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.400 and Brett also is a memberi W. Because nepotism. Brett 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:22.400 is a former evolutionary biology professor from Evergreen State College. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.520 He got famous when he resigned in two thousand seventeen. 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.840 Over the school's yearly day of absence. In years passed, 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.120 during the day of absence, students of color had left 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.680 campus to have conversations about race and equity, but that 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.560 year they asked white students to leave campus instead, and 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:41.360 Weinstein complained. He said this led the intolerant left to 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.120 bury him in death threats, which made the campus unsafe 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.280 for him and forced him to resign and sue his 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.680 former employer. He received a half a million dollars settlement. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:56.960 Nice good stuff, real honest wages. So Brett operates with 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.760 his wife, Heather the Dark Horse YouTube channel, which is 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.280 probably the primary non medical source of irrational iver mect 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:07.160 and exuberance. Bain, that's just words, throbber. You can't just 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.320 say those words in that order and expect me to 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:15.040 think something I would, I can, and I have Oh 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:19.200 okay hm. So Brett and his wife left on the 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.720 anti parasitic drug as soon as the first studies into 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.160 its efficacy were released. Like the FLCCC, he started off 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:26.840 by pointing out that he had a history of being 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:31.280 right about important COVID facts that the medical establishment had 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.720 been wrong about, namely wearing a mask. You remember when 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.079 we were out of masks, and doctor said it might 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.520 not be necessary because we didn't know much about it 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.480 at that point. Well, Brett claims he was right about that. 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:48.400 Who the funk knows, um, So it's not like masks 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.040 were an option for most of us. We were cutting 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:54.600 them out of fucking t shirts, Brett. Anyway, I'm gonna 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.640 quote next from Vice. They began promoting I've Met In 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.640 this spring and interviewed Corey on their podcast in early June. 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.720 Corey claimed that public health bodies are ignoring the potential 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.120 uses of iver mactin in the fight against COVID nineteen, 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:10.400 perhaps deliberately striking the same conspiratorial tone that often arises 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.160 in conjunction with flimsy medical claims. He speculated that a 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.240 World Health Organization committee was told they can't come out 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.240 of that room with a recommendation for iver macten. Corey 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.120 and Weinstein both agreed that COVID nineteen vaccines are being 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.760 promoted at the expense of other treatments, seemingly for the 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.760 benefit of the same sinister they's whom they imply control 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.960 the w h O and other health agencies. Another podcast 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.320 featured Weinstein literally taking iver mactin on air. We are 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.360 not going to make any recommendations as to what you 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.480 should do, Weinstein said shortly before doubting the drug. And 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.680 we're not going to say anything conclusive about what the 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.800 data say, because the data are not themselves conclusive. However, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:50.280 it doesn't mean the data don't imply things. Robert I 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.840 fear that our medium is the source of all of 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:58.320 society's current ills. Well, social media, our medium is part 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.160 of its. Social media is really what got the ball 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.400 rolling before podcasts were because this is also on YouTube 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.000 where he's doing. It's like it's all part of it. 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.120 Podcasts are part of it. To this part of it's 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.120 this whole. You know, Barry Weiss talks about the gate 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.920 there were too many gatekeepers, um. And the problem is 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:18.680 now there are. There's no such there's no gate there's 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.960 nothing at all. You just pick the facts that are 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:26.520 most convenient to you, um, and then you get increasingly 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.200 violently agitated when reality doesn't line up with those facts, 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.120 and so you attack the capital and start storming school 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:37.160 board meetings and threatening to murder school administrators who demand people. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.600 I think that they're still gates, but the gates are 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.240 far tinier and very easy to knock over. So it's 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.480 like there's one person to each gate, and so you 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.840 could just walk up and they're like, yeah, come on 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.880 in whatever, Like there's no institutional gate. Not that I'm 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.600 advocating for an institutional gate, but in this case, there were. 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:01.680 There were probably were way too. It's not like I'm 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.160 not saying like, oh, we need to go back to 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.000 the good old days when Walter Cronkite was the entirety 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.120 of news, you know, when there was one source of news. 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.280 Of course, not the fact that there is a massive 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.120 that you can make millions of dollars if you just 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:19.400 wait until somebody makes a vague suggestion that a medication 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.640 might be helpful and then tell them to issue all 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.160 proven medications in favor of that, and then claim that 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.200 you're being silenced by medical authorities when doctors say what 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.200 you're saying is a bad idea and that way you 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:33.280 make huge amounts of money. That's bad. Yeah, you should 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.920 have to be able to like prove what you're claiming 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.720 if you're claiming to be an authority. I think I 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.000 don't know. I don't know what the long term solution is, 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.920 and I don't think we'll find it, um, but maybe 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.160 it would be something like, Okay, well you told a 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:52.000 bunch of people to take iver meton and not get vaccinated, 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.320 and these people died, So we're going to shoot you 0:16:54.360 --> 0:17:00.480 in a field. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I mean 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.000 in minecraft, of course, but I I see what you're saying. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.000 So Weinstein went on in that episode to claim that 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.520 neither he or his wife have been vaccinated quote because 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.560 we have fears, as we have discussed it length on 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.800 this podcast, and that given the apparent effectiveness that iver 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.560 mectin and iver mectine preventing COVID nineteen, why would he 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:25.120 bother taking the vaccine cost benefit? For me? It makes sense, um. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.280 So when VISs asked Heather and her husband which reputable 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.200 scientific sources they followed on ivermectin, Heather responded like a 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.320 truly gifted grifter, And as a connoisseur of grifters, I 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:39.359 have to give her a little clap for this response. Quote, 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.080 we are not following any particular experts. That isn't what 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.520 scientists are supposed to do. We have been in continue 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.640 to read the scientific literature as it emerges. The one 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.000 exception to this is with regard to Protocol for using 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.440 Ivermectin as a prophylact against COVID nineteen, which is listed 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.560 on the website for the front Line COVID nineteen Critical Carolines, 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.320 an organization of dot years of what Dr Corey is 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:05.600 a leading figure. So we don't we aren't following any experts, 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.959 but we are only listening to this one guy and 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:12.800 taking this medicine because he said too, Um, it's good ship. 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:19.960 Sure sure, no, that that's solid solid. This is like absurd, Okay, 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:25.000 now after it's good stuff. After Brett took iver met 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.200 and Live on air, Heather claim she and her entire 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.280 family began taking it as a prophylactic. At one point, 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.080 Brett Weinstein acknowledged that his advice might stop people from 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.840 getting vaccinated. Quote, they could well contract COVID nineteen when 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.040 they otherwise would not have. They might die. That's not 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.560 a responsibility I want, but it's I feel it's one 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.879 I must take on because the analysis that matters is 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.359 the net analysis. What is the best policy from the 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.280 point of view of reducing the number of people lost 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.160 to this disease as opposed to lost to adverse reactions 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:58.400 to vaccines? So that's bad but it is Brett acknowledging 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.840 again that he know he's going to get people killed. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.680 It's him claiming, of course that is net he's getting 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.800 less people killed, but he fucking knows what he's doing, right, 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.240 That's that's I mean, I guess that's not even really 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:14.920 tripping me up logic wise, because it's abundantly clear that 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.000 this that this group is aware that this is a 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.280 risk the entire time. And I feel like that is like, 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:22.639 in the case of Joe Rogan, one of the only 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.560 things that is preventing him from falling off the edge 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.640 of a cliff is he will never acknowledge that he 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.639 knows that what he is doing that hundreds of millions 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.240 of people consume every week, has a demonstrable harm. And 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.520 if he admits that, then the game has kind of 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.480 changed a little bit for him. But the fact that 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.240 he would admit it, like Brett, I mean, would it 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:43.960 would admit that he's well aware of the consequences of 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:48.320 his actions in public, that easily is like just speaking 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:53.040 of the consequences of his actions, Jamie, So do tell 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.200 oh yeah, oh no, we'll we'll be we'll be getting 0:19:56.240 --> 0:20:00.360 to the consequences of it. But you know. So. Brett 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.200 has more than five hundred sixty thousand followers on Twitter 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.800 and three d and fifty one thousand followers on YouTube. 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.600 One of his followers was an Englishman named Leslie Lawrenson. 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:16.200 Note that I said was oh. Leslie regularly shared Brett's content. 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.680 Underneath one post where in Leslie shared one of Brett's videos, 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.640 he wrote, quote and this is this is Leslie iver. 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.639 Meton has been around for forty years. There have been 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:27.960 more than four billion doses administered in that time, and 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:31.040 its risk profile is extremely well known. Frontline doctors across 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:32.840 the world have reported that it is not only safe, 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:36.240 but extremely effective and ji successfully treating COVID nineteen. Yet 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.440 its use as being suppressed and blocked by every single 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.760 government that is within the purview of big pharma and 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.560 the mainstream media is exercising a media blackout a k a. 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.320 Censorship regarding its existence so that the sheep never get 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.240 to hear about it. Shortly after that, he posted a 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.879 video announcing that he had caught COVID nineteen and that 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.280 he was glad of this because the virus was nothing 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.199 different from a normal illness and the potential risks of 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:00.000 the vaccine were not worth it. Days later, his family 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.919 found him dead in his home. God, I mean, it's like, 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.960 do you need a more one to one analysis of 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.520 what this guy's rhetoric is doing. That's that's like, that's 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.480 that's negligent homicide. That should be punished the same way 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:16.120 as getting somebody with your car when you're wasted. Um 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:26.320 lots of platform than ever before Rogan show. And yeah, 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.520 I'm not you know, I I'm very critical of a 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.240 lot of like the revolutionary fantasizing among some such sections 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:35.160 of the left and the up against the wall bring 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.520 out the guillotines part, but yeah, sucking bring out the guillotines. 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:42.239 Let's do It's like, that's that's that's right. There's some 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:48.040 clear cut examples of like, well, that situation calls you're 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:52.320 you are knowingly getting people killed for your own personal 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.639 benefit and I don't really care what happens to you, Brett, 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.200 And it's not even he can't even like and and 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.040 there's nay him to the faces and he knows the 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.840 names and he knows the faces and he doesn't give 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:09.639 a ship like that is just horrific. Anyway, Let's have 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:16.280 a Nuremberg for disinformation um and like the actual Nuremberg Court, 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.720 most of the guilty people will get off scott free 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.920 and later wind up working for NASA, And then someone 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:26.479 will make to Joe Rogan designing the first successful mars Lander. 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.320 H Joe Rogan is the Berner von Brown in this 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:39.000 Yeah what sorry? I see the spaceship that Joe Rogan makes. 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.719 Do you I mean, is it possible to make a 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:48.040 bigger uh like Penis complex and Jeff Bezos is? I 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:51.000 would like to see Joe Rogan try. You know, I 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:53.960 don't think that Joe Rogan has that same particular issue 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:57.680 that Jeff Bezos has. What what do you think his 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.280 problem is? What makes he has a lot of rob 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:04.520 But he strikes me. I don't think he's insecure like that. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.680 That does not strike me as Joe Rogan's issue. Clearly, 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:12.520 fucking both Bezos and Musk are, but I think Joe 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:15.119 Rogan is. I think Joe Rogan would have been a 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:19.280 perfectly banal, perhaps even positive influence on society if we 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.680 had never developed the Internet. He would have been. He 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:23.960 would have been great at you go in to watch 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.359 a bunch of sweaty guys punch each other and Joe 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:31.720 is an entertaining announcer, and that would have been factor 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:35.040 residuals and like living in Glendale for the rest of 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.440 his life, and we wouldn't have known the difference. No, 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:40.399 And you could say, oh, I like Joe Rogan, and 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.160 people would say, oh, yeah, the guy who made people 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:44.280 eat bugs. He was funny, and that would be the 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:49.719 end of the motherfuck. I would have no lover. I 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:53.000 love when people eat bugs. It's when you start spreading 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:57.160 disinformation to hundreds of millions of people, to the point where, 0:23:57.359 --> 0:23:59.520 like you were saying, even if you don't give a 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:03.240