WEBVTT - Some Time With... Karen Miller! (Part 1) 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:21.040 How do I do this again? 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:26.040 Okay, so I have to press record recording audio recording an audiobox. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.040 I'll worry about later. I'm gonna buy you. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:32.519 My Google doc. I've got Jody up there. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:32.840 Okay. 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:34.800 I think I think we know what we're doing now. 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:36.559 It's like it's literally I'm like, have. 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:37.360 We done this before? 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.760 It's a brand new every single time. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.159 Oh boy, some days it's just a little harder to 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:44.640 start the engine than others. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:44.960 True. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.640 True? Do we always start at ten or sometimes? Is 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:49.320 it ten thirty? 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.199 What? Our guests are just very organized and they come 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.280 at ten fifteen because we're supposed to be doing intros 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:55.800 and stuff. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.640 Oh right, right? Always early? Of course, Karen's are on. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.120 Time, right, She's not on time, She's fifteen minutes early. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.160 She's so, which is according to my husband and a 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.800 lot of people, that is on time. Yeah, yeah, on 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.280 time is late, and or yeah early is on time 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:14.080 and on time is late. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.280 I'm like, oh, that doesn't apply to me. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.160 I'm yeah, it's a window, you know what I mean, 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.080 Like a little seven to ten minute window. 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.399 Anyway, Hi, ab Hi, what's up? 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.400 Nothing, I'm getting ready to go to Italy soon, very excited. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.319 It's this month. Why did I think it was November? Wow, 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:34.080 it's coming up. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:34.800 It's coming up. 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:35.160 I know. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.880 I'm very excited. Do you have your are you packed? 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:39.840 Do you have your clothing all laid out? Do you 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.440 have your dual lingo Max or whatever? To learn you're Italian? 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:45.200 No? 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:46.840 No, I should just bring be with me and be 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.040 like you're my translator the duelingo Max. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:51.040 No. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:57.680 I actually I went to Shannon's yesterday, huh and borrowed 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.960 a bunch of like some clothes and stuff and tried 0:01:59.960 --> 0:02:01.520 to figure out what I was wearing to the wedding 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.320 and everything. And the best part was that the wedding's 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:10.040 black tie. And and I sprung this on Mescal. I 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.480 was like, hey, babe, I think you need a new suit. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.480 And then I looked and I was like because I 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:15.840 wasn't even one hundred percent sure, And I. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:16.840 Was like, oh, it's black tie. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.359 And he was like what I ducks, I don't get. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.079 This is a man who does not like to get 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:22.560 dressed up. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:23.040 Okay, No. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.760 On in the middle of the store, I was like, 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.239 you have to you actually have to try the whole 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:30.520 thing on. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:31.200 Why. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.880 I was like, you gotta put the shirt on with 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.640 the jacket with you know, I get it a good sport. 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.200 It's like, I mean, it's not his favorite thing to do. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.160 So anyway, I get it. I get it. I appreciate 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.200 it while I'm like, okay, So here's the themes, like 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:50.560 there's three night yeah and right right, I mean I 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.799 didn't pick it out. That was what my friend and 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:57.440 amazing stylist Shannon was for because again, I'm a sweatpants 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.280 kind of girl, so yeah, but I also want to 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.600 stick out as an American tourist, so I'm trying to 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.960 look I'm trying to look, trying to blend like not 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.880 like an American, you know what I mean? On tour 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:14.359 it like Americans give themselves away by wearing shorts and 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:15.359 at leisure. 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.440 Yes, and denim shorts, and they're always very loud. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.280 So you're gonna have to You're gonna have to like 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:21.280 take it down if you not. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.280 Just Jodie, but I feel like the only but Italians 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.799 are passionate and that right, there's very Did they gesticulate 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:30.079 a lot in that regard? 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.800 I might be okay, in was a gesticulating it's gonna 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:35.120 be me and. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.640 The scal traveling together. He is much quieter than I am. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:43.600 So when I'm you know, not around my people, the 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.920 call of the wild is much quieter. In fact, he 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.520 actually came out here this morning to the office to 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:49.760 sit and I came out. 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:50.680 I was like, oh, hey, babe, I. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.280 Need, you know, to do some stuff out here, and 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:54.920 he was like, oh, it was just so loud in there. 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.280 I was like, it was me and b this morning, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.560 like a discussing. She was asking if I wanted a 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.160 bagel from the kitchen to the living room, and he 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:06.600 was like, I just it was too early. I just 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.400 couldn't deal. It's like, okay, he is not quiet. I 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.160 was like, how did you How did you know what 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:16.440 you were doing? Like, yeah, he's a I don't know 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:17.479 how he lives in that house. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.120 I mean, I love it. It's right. It's the balance. It's 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.440 the balance that you need. Do you guys tap each 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:22.880 other out? 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.479 Indeed, well, let me intro let me let Karen the 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:27.400 amazing Karen. 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:28.919 Enough of our pre show chatter. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.320 I know, I can't wait to I can't say excited. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:32.680 To see Karen to her. I haven't talked here for 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:33.400 so long. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.159 All right, here we go, Hey there, fan Ritos and 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.799 Welcome to an all new episode of How Rude Tanertos. Today, 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.080 we're going to dive into the magic that happened behind 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.719 the scenes of Full House, and our guest is someone 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:48.320 who was there from the very beginning, starting as Jeff 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.960 Franklin's assistant and working her way up to producer. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.560 It's none other than Karen Miller. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.719 Yay, we are going to pick Karen's brain about Full House, 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.080 plus her time on Disney, NBC, UNI, Versual and beyond. 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.679 So let's give a big welcome to Karen Kay Miller. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.520 I care Karen, Mie. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.000 It's so good to see you about. 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:11.960 Beautiful, so good to see you too. 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.120 You still have that megawatt smile, like it's just so 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:16.919 comforting to see you. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:24.080 Yes, I was just reminiscing with myself about just, I mean, 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.560 growing up together like we all did. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.279 We grew up in every way. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.160 Yeah, yep, yep, we were. 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:31.479 Yeah. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.120 We were the kids and the parents and the uncles 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.560 and aunts and we were all just one big family. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.000 You know, we say it over and over, but it's true. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.240 We were, We were, it still are we still are 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:41.600 a family. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.880 Why am I talking as absolutely? 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:48.480 I know, just so many many happy memories good times. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:55.120 Yes, tears, all right, I mean yeah, we were. It's 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.400 just so wild to think, like, you know, we we 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.479 looked at everyone around us is like these adults, you 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.720 know what I mean, and who were like adulting and 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.560 and doing I can't believe I just used that millennial word, 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.840 but you know that we're like doing things, responsible things 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.080 and whatever. And now like looking back on them as 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.679 Andrey and I are in our forties and realizing everyone 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:21.240 was like in their mid twenties, like twenties, we were 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:28.160 being we were being ruled by pirates. In twenties, You're like, oh, 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.800 we thought they were like yep, I know what I'm doing. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:36.120 And no, no parents, the adult everybody was just it 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.839 was you know, Bob, John, Dave, Lorie, they were babies. 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:41.480 Like It's just crazy. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.960 I mean we really literally grew up together. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.080 Because I look back and I think, wow, they gave 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.680 me that job and I was so young and I 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.360 didn't know what I was doing. And I also thought, wow, 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:57.480 the parents are so old, but they were me five 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.400 years older than me, Like they were not that right. 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.680 Right, Oh no, I look at them now, I'm like, oh, 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.320 our parents were young. They were younger than than we 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.320 are now, and yet I think of them as older 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.240 than I am now, Like, oh, does it make sense? 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.000 I'm like no, no, no, no. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:17.480 My mom was has always been My mom has always 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.120 been mom Age and it's just you know, and it's 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:21.120 just so wild to think. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.640 I mean, it was like just just hanging out with 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:28.760 both your moms and Barbara just amazing. I mean we 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.080 would sit, we would sit together on like the day 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:33.800 bed as I remember it. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.440 Yes, oh yes, I had the I had the day 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.400 bed in my room. My mom loved her into your 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:45.000 design lash and she and so she let it shine 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:46.680 in my dressing room. Every year I got to pick 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:50.360 something new, and I believe we had a. 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.760 A oh what was it. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.360 I think there was a Mickey Mouse theme, like maybe 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.960 second season or something. But yeah, I had that Red 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.000 David and everyone would come and hang out in my 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.240 room even which is hilarious because that was how it 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:05.000 was on Fuller. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.840 But yeah, oh yes, yeah, my room was like the 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:09.440 party room. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.960 But Jody had Dave's old dressing room, okay, and so 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.160 yeah it was just like open door. The door's always 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:16.600 open in Joe's dressing room. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.760 But this was like even like like the first set 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.720 we were on at like Sony and I remember like 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.400 my mom would just have the door open. I remember 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:31.160 playing scategories in there. Who else would Colleen, Oh my gosh. 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.200 Yeah, we would just hang out and we would and 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:33.640 they'd had. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:38.160 A monitor in the dressing room so that moms could watch. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.880 But yeah, there were moments where you were like, oh gosh, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.920 oh yeah, yeah, do we need to go to to 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:47.400 do we need to go out front? 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:48.600 And actually like. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.120 Right, and well, and that that did happen a couple 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:51.560 of times. 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.600 Bob and Dave and John have remembered it. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:58.120 Very well, because yeah, you'd forget completely the kids aren't 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.600 physically there, but oh there was Yeah. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.520 Well I was always very very impressed by both of 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:09.199 you and Cantae because I mean, you guys were always 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:13.200 off script. You you knew your lines, and you knew 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:19.079 the other cast members lines they in particular, and you 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:24.360 knew everyone's mind. Incredible, but the others were on script 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:28.560 probably right up until we actually shot the scene. But 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:32.440 that was always incredibly impressive, just the way in which 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:34.200 you showed up to set. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.920 And well, Andrey can tell you that that has been 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.280 a letdown as I've gotten older. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:43.920 That's yeah, that ship sailed in fuller. We were on 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:48.000 script while they were roly, were like right right in 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:48.800 the kitchen. 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.319 Island a piece of well then we then we became 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:55.240 Bob and started shoving it in every possible drawer, behind 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:59.080 a pillow, under a under a couch cushion. And I think, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.520 you know, as in a you just you just got 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.960 less brain space. So you know, as a kid, you're like, 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:05.280 I can remember everything. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:06.520 I just got space. 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.160 And I think it was Badge Bonner also to just 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.720 be like I got over you. You probably also felt 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.079 like you had to show up in a different way, right, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:15.640 like there was. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:20.520 Well exactly as a kid, you know, like I can't 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.200 show up and be the thing that everyone's waiting on. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.800 You know, like as an adult you sort of have 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.960 more leeway because you're in a little bit more control, 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.640 But you don't ever want to be the kid on 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.800 set that doesn't know what they're doing, because you know, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.480 I think there's weirdly always that unspoken thing of like 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.199 the kids are more replaceable, the kids and the. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:43.200 Dog, right, and we had all of it, oh did we? 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.240 I mean that was kids and dogs and more kids 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.840 and more dogs and don't work elephants we. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.440 Had the elephants in a living room. We had horses 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:57.280 walking upstairs, turtles, dogs with Bonner with turtles and bags. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.679 We had sewing and sorry bring it all. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.280 So many things get into the pepper Mill episode. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.400 That donkey, that donkey, Oh dear, yeah. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:09.360 Oh what good times? 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.840 Going back to like the beginning, because you said that, 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.160 you know, you started really young and you felt like 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.080 you didn't know what you were doing. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.520 How how did you like wind up? 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:29.920 Well? 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.560 I with I was? I was. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.720 I had my first job out of college. I had 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:39.000 gotten on a soap opera called Capital, and I thought 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.319 like my career as made like they never canceled. They 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:46.600 never canceled in those days. And so I started as 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.080 a script supervisor. I worked my way up to an ad, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.840 I gotten the director skilled, became an ap and then 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.880 the show got canceled, which again never happens. So so 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.240 I was looking for work. I had gone to Lori 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.840 Mar I was going to see a friend of my 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.200 dad's who was in the business, and a girl named 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.600 Yolie walked by and she was like a friend of 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.840 a friend, a friend of a friend, and she was like, 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.880 what are you doing? And I'm like, oh, I'm here 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.880 to see and she said, well, we're shooting a pilot. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.640 The exec producer's assistant just got fired. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:21.240 Can you do it? 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.440 And I was like, well, I mean I've got I'm 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:24.720 going to go play tennis tomorrow. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:30.840 I mean ridiculous. And so she's like, just could you 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.640 just do me a favor? Help me out? So I'm 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:34.439 like okay, fine. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.760 So I show up the next day and the pilot 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:41.800 is full house and the exec producer is Jeff Franklin 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.400 and Miller Boyette and the rest is history. I mean 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:51.280 literally right place, right time. We did the pilot. It 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:52.760 was an amazing experience. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:57.040 It was incredible that was this the original pilot with 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:57.920 John Hoos is. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.200 The original pilot Jeff. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.679 Jeff then didn't have an assistant, and so he said, well, 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.000 what are you doing? You want to just hang out? 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.559 Just can you do this while we wait to see 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:11.880 if the show's going to get picked up? 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:13.280 And so we. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.240 Did and we He had an office at Laura mar 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.120 and I was there with him, and then we got 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:20.800 the green light and then he. 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:21.920 Said, well will you stay? 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.280 And I was like okay, And then we had that 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.000 conversation that becomes awkward because I had come off of something. 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.520 I'd come off of it being an AP, and I 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.120 was like, well, I don't really want to do I mean, 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.560 I like your desk, but I don't only want to do. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:41.200 It is and yeah, a little over qualified had. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:46.640 Already been hired as the AP, and so they kind 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.800 of made up a title and it was a production manager. 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.480 I mean it's a legitimate title, but it was necessary 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.240 perhaps for that. But they were like, right, you're a 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.480 production manager and it's a catch all. You know, you'll 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:03.840 work with Don Vanatta And so yeah, that was my start, 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:08.240 but I mean really amazing, and so in every way 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:14.160 we literally grew up together. We were there from the start, 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.840 and you had no idea that you struck gold like 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.600 had you had a mirror ball and could foresee the future. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.840 Any of us, I mean any of us. 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.440 Thirty five years later, the legacy of this show just wow. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:27.400 We all got so I. 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.360 Knew that, I mean I knew. I think we all 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.760 knew that. It didn't get any and it doesn't get 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:38.240 any better than that that. It literally was an amazing 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:43.080 environment that we were all nurtured and protected, and we 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:47.600 laughed all the time, and we had these amazing legitimate 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.240 friendships that again you can get on a set, but it's. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.800 Not always it is right, it's not and it's not 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.520 always the way it is like across the ball. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.960 Really, I mean it like top to bottom. 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:09.040 Everybody really enjoyed me, and there was no like strata 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.000 to it, you know what I mean. Like again, like 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.360 you guys were producers and writers and hanging out with 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:19.280 the moms and having lunch, and the adult cast were 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.720 kind of our families and they were and like the 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.280 wardrobe people were. It was just going to it really 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.600 was a weird, magical little. 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.960 Stamoses on the weekends and having. 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:36.480 Party, yeah, and everybody bringing something and just hanging out. 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.840 And our big our big back to our big family reunion, 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.320 back to back to work barbecues, you know, I mean 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:43.480 we talked about all just. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.720 The just the best and and authentically so I mean really, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:53.360 you know, many of us got married, had kids, got divorced. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:53.800 During that time. 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:59.720 Yeah, and yeah, I just I have so many happy, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:04.680 wayful memories of all of it. And and again, you know, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.160 I don't think any of us ever took it for granted. 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.600 And I'm it was. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.320 Remarkable in every in every way, and you know, I 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.520 definitely think it came from Bob and Tom and Jeff 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:21.280 because you create an environment on set, and you know, 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.200 I mean it was work. It was a lot of work. 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:24.720 It was happen in the early days. 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:26.760 You had a lot of network. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.560 We all worked, we all and we all worked hard, 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.000 and we all you know, did stuff. But like even 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.320 the story that you mentioned where you said, you know, look, 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.200 I started as Jeff's assistant and I was helping out, 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.520 but then I had the conversation like, hey, I'm actually 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.560 kind of more and he was like, okay, well let's 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:44.880 make up. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.640 You know. That's and that truly is. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.240 Like that's Jeff where he's like, okay, well, let's figure 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:54.600 out how to to keep good quality people and like 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.280 make it worth everyone, you know, make it worth people's 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:02.520 time and make it enjoy And that really did set 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.600 the tone because it was there was not nobody on 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.159 set that it was like, oh, don't talk to you. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.760 You can't talk tobout it, right, And that's so often 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:14.040 the case with showrunners in this business. My god, how 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.560 many show runners do we know where you're like, oh, yeah, 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:20.000 no way to them, nor do you want to right right, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:24.080 don't even look at them, Yeah, and I couldn't. I 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.320 guess that's when I hear those stories, I'm like, wow, 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.760 what's that like? Because it just has never been a 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.560 part of my experience in this industry. 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.000 And I think it's I mean again, I feel like 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.600 it was, you know, it was something that was such 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.320 a part of our lives, and then we took it 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.399 and modeled the rest of our. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.320 Careers and continued to do so off of that, which again. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.720 Well, yeah, because I think we all realized like, wait, 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:47.439 you can do it, like it doesn't have to be 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:52.639 some miserable, like shaming, ego grinding experience, Like we can 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:53.919 have fun and do our jobs. 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.359 And even I mean, you know the Miller boyet that 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.000 that era of where they came from and what they 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.880 did right in their careers, and the Gary Marshall piece 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.960 of it, you know, the camp Gary just the way that, yeah, 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.879 they instilled in all of us this work hard and 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:09.880 play hard. 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.280 And also and take care of each other. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.600 And I remember, and this is my memory of it. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.280 I could have been completely I might have missed this, 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:24.200 but I seem to remember that. So Mary Kay and 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.760 Ashley one loved dance, one loved horseback riding, Bob and 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:29.600 Tom wanted them to have that experience. 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.000 They did it before they came to set. Also, remember 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:34.480 in school. 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.639 You guys obviously went to school while you were on set. 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:41.400 But that he brought in Bill Ny, the science guy. 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.359 No, I don't know if it was Bill, it was No, 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:45.360 that was Glenn. 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.919 Okay, this is a tutor, but he was a like 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.920 a chemistry teacher, and so he would do all sorts 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:53.000 of experiments. 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.960 We had the best teachers. They let us go to. 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.080 School in the morning, like I got to go to 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.119 public school in Orange Care and come in in the 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.400 afternoon because it was able to work with the schedule. 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:09.560 And yeah, they really gave us opportunities to be like 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:11.160 normal people. 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.960 And I think again it sets the tone for you. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.800 It had to have been hard, right, Like I can't 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.359 imagine having that level just because your life is so 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:25.040 different and you have an adult responsibility, right right, But 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:29.679 I also think probably being surrounded by what really is 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.320 your family and your extended family, and then also some. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.280 Sense of normal. 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.880 So yeah, however that's defined in those days, I think 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.320 it created an environment where it was healthy. 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.239 Yeah, No, truly it was. 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.520