Speaker 1: How do I do this again?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I have to press record recording audio recording an audiobox.
Speaker 1: I'll worry about later. I'm gonna buy you.
Speaker 3: My Google doc. I've got Jody up there.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: I think I think we know what we're doing now.
Speaker 4: It's like it's literally I'm like, have.
Speaker 1: We done this before?
Speaker 3: It's a brand new every single time.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, some days it's just a little harder to
Speaker 4: start the engine than others.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: True? Do we always start at ten or sometimes? Is
Speaker 1: it ten thirty?
Speaker 2: What? Our guests are just very organized and they come
Speaker 2: at ten fifteen because we're supposed to be doing intros
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh right, right? Always early? Of course, Karen's are on.
Speaker 3: Time, right, She's not on time, She's fifteen minutes early.
Speaker 4: She's so, which is according to my husband and a
Speaker 4: lot of people, that is on time. Yeah, yeah, on
Speaker 4: time is late, and or yeah early is on time
Speaker 4: and on time is late.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that doesn't apply to me.
Speaker 4: I'm yeah, it's a window, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like a little seven to ten minute window.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Hi, ab Hi, what's up?
Speaker 4: Nothing, I'm getting ready to go to Italy soon, very excited.
Speaker 3: It's this month. Why did I think it was November? Wow,
Speaker 3: it's coming up.
Speaker 1: It's coming up.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited. Do you have your are you packed?
Speaker 2: Do you have your clothing all laid out? Do you
Speaker 2: have your dual lingo Max or whatever? To learn you're Italian?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: No, I should just bring be with me and be
Speaker 4: like you're my translator the duelingo Max.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: I actually I went to Shannon's yesterday, huh and borrowed
Speaker 4: a bunch of like some clothes and stuff and tried
Speaker 4: to figure out what I was wearing to the wedding
Speaker 4: and everything. And the best part was that the wedding's
Speaker 4: black tie. And and I sprung this on Mescal. I
Speaker 4: was like, hey, babe, I think you need a new suit.
Speaker 4: And then I looked and I was like because I
Speaker 4: wasn't even one hundred percent sure, And I.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, it's black tie.
Speaker 4: And he was like what I ducks, I don't get.
Speaker 4: This is a man who does not like to get
Speaker 4: dressed up.
Speaker 1: Okay, No.
Speaker 4: On in the middle of the store, I was like,
Speaker 4: you have to you actually have to try the whole
Speaker 4: thing on.
Speaker 1: Why.
Speaker 4: I was like, you gotta put the shirt on with
Speaker 4: the jacket with you know, I get it a good sport.
Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, it's not his favorite thing to do.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I get it. I get it. I appreciate
Speaker 4: it while I'm like, okay, So here's the themes, like
Speaker 4: there's three night yeah and right right, I mean I
Speaker 4: didn't pick it out. That was what my friend and
Speaker 4: amazing stylist Shannon was for because again, I'm a sweatpants
Speaker 4: kind of girl, so yeah, but I also want to
Speaker 4: stick out as an American tourist, so I'm trying to
Speaker 4: look I'm trying to look, trying to blend like not
Speaker 4: like an American, you know what I mean? On tour
Speaker 4: it like Americans give themselves away by wearing shorts and
Speaker 4: at leisure.
Speaker 2: Yes, and denim shorts, and they're always very loud.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna have to You're gonna have to like
Speaker 3: take it down if you not.
Speaker 4: Just Jodie, but I feel like the only but Italians
Speaker 4: are passionate and that right, there's very Did they gesticulate
Speaker 4: a lot in that regard?
Speaker 3: I might be okay, in was a gesticulating it's gonna
Speaker 3: be me and.
Speaker 4: The scal traveling together. He is much quieter than I am.
Speaker 4: So when I'm you know, not around my people, the
Speaker 4: call of the wild is much quieter. In fact, he
Speaker 4: actually came out here this morning to the office to
Speaker 4: sit and I came out.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, hey, babe, I.
Speaker 4: Need, you know, to do some stuff out here, and
Speaker 4: he was like, oh, it was just so loud in there.
Speaker 4: I was like, it was me and b this morning,
Speaker 4: like a discussing. She was asking if I wanted a
Speaker 4: bagel from the kitchen to the living room, and he
Speaker 4: was like, I just it was too early. I just
Speaker 4: couldn't deal. It's like, okay, he is not quiet. I
Speaker 4: was like, how did you How did you know what
Speaker 4: you were doing? Like, yeah, he's a I don't know
Speaker 4: how he lives in that house.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love it. It's right. It's the balance. It's
Speaker 2: the balance that you need. Do you guys tap each
Speaker 2: other out?
Speaker 4: Indeed, well, let me intro let me let Karen the
Speaker 4: amazing Karen.
Speaker 1: Enough of our pre show chatter.
Speaker 3: I know, I can't wait to I can't say excited.
Speaker 1: To see Karen to her. I haven't talked here for
Speaker 1: so long.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Hey there, fan Ritos and
Speaker 2: Welcome to an all new episode of How Rude Tanertos. Today,
Speaker 2: we're going to dive into the magic that happened behind
Speaker 2: the scenes of Full House, and our guest is someone
Speaker 2: who was there from the very beginning, starting as Jeff
Speaker 2: Franklin's assistant and working her way up to producer.
Speaker 1: It's none other than Karen Miller.
Speaker 2: Yay, we are going to pick Karen's brain about Full House,
Speaker 2: plus her time on Disney, NBC, UNI, Versual and beyond.
Speaker 2: So let's give a big welcome to Karen Kay Miller.
Speaker 1: I care Karen, Mie.
Speaker 6: It's so good to see you about.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, so good to see you too.
Speaker 2: You still have that megawatt smile, like it's just so
Speaker 2: comforting to see you.
Speaker 5: Yes, I was just reminiscing with myself about just, I mean,
Speaker 5: growing up together like we all did.
Speaker 6: We grew up in every way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yep, we were.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We were the kids and the parents and the uncles
Speaker 2: and aunts and we were all just one big family.
Speaker 3: You know, we say it over and over, but it's true.
Speaker 3: We were, We were, it still are we still are
Speaker 3: a family.
Speaker 1: Why am I talking as absolutely?
Speaker 5: I know, just so many many happy memories good times.
Speaker 4: Yes, tears, all right, I mean yeah, we were. It's
Speaker 4: just so wild to think, like, you know, we we
Speaker 4: looked at everyone around us is like these adults, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, and who were like adulting and
Speaker 4: and doing I can't believe I just used that millennial word,
Speaker 4: but you know that we're like doing things, responsible things
Speaker 4: and whatever. And now like looking back on them as
Speaker 4: Andrey and I are in our forties and realizing everyone
Speaker 4: was like in their mid twenties, like twenties, we were
Speaker 4: being we were being ruled by pirates. In twenties, You're like, oh,
Speaker 4: we thought they were like yep, I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: And no, no parents, the adult everybody was just it
Speaker 4: was you know, Bob, John, Dave, Lorie, they were babies.
Speaker 1: Like It's just crazy.
Speaker 6: I mean we really literally grew up together.
Speaker 5: Because I look back and I think, wow, they gave
Speaker 5: me that job and I was so young and I
Speaker 5: didn't know what I was doing. And I also thought, wow,
Speaker 5: the parents are so old, but they were me five
Speaker 5: years older than me, Like they were not that right.
Speaker 4: Right, Oh no, I look at them now, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: our parents were young. They were younger than than we
Speaker 4: are now, and yet I think of them as older
Speaker 4: than I am now, Like, oh, does it make sense?
Speaker 1: I'm like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: My mom was has always been My mom has always
Speaker 4: been mom Age and it's just you know, and it's
Speaker 4: just so wild to think.
Speaker 5: I mean, it was like just just hanging out with
Speaker 5: both your moms and Barbara just amazing. I mean we
Speaker 5: would sit, we would sit together on like the day
Speaker 5: bed as I remember it.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh yes, I had the I had the day
Speaker 4: bed in my room. My mom loved her into your
Speaker 4: design lash and she and so she let it shine
Speaker 4: in my dressing room. Every year I got to pick
Speaker 4: something new, and I believe we had a.
Speaker 1: A oh what was it.
Speaker 4: I think there was a Mickey Mouse theme, like maybe
Speaker 4: second season or something. But yeah, I had that Red
Speaker 4: David and everyone would come and hang out in my
Speaker 4: room even which is hilarious because that was how it
Speaker 4: was on Fuller.
Speaker 1: But yeah, oh yes, yeah, my room was like the
Speaker 1: party room.
Speaker 2: But Jody had Dave's old dressing room, okay, and so
Speaker 2: yeah it was just like open door. The door's always
Speaker 2: open in Joe's dressing room.
Speaker 4: But this was like even like like the first set
Speaker 4: we were on at like Sony and I remember like
Speaker 4: my mom would just have the door open. I remember
Speaker 4: playing scategories in there. Who else would Colleen, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we would just hang out and we would and
Speaker 6: they'd had.
Speaker 5: A monitor in the dressing room so that moms could watch.
Speaker 5: But yeah, there were moments where you were like, oh gosh,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, yeah, do we need to go to to
Speaker 5: do we need to go out front?
Speaker 6: And actually like.
Speaker 4: Right, and well, and that that did happen a couple
Speaker 4: of times.
Speaker 1: Bob and Dave and John have remembered it.
Speaker 4: Very well, because yeah, you'd forget completely the kids aren't
Speaker 4: physically there, but oh there was Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well I was always very very impressed by both of
Speaker 5: you and Cantae because I mean, you guys were always
Speaker 5: off script. You you knew your lines, and you knew
Speaker 5: the other cast members lines they in particular, and you
Speaker 5: knew everyone's mind. Incredible, but the others were on script
Speaker 5: probably right up until we actually shot the scene. But
Speaker 5: that was always incredibly impressive, just the way in which
Speaker 5: you showed up to set.
Speaker 4: And well, Andrey can tell you that that has been
Speaker 4: a letdown as I've gotten older.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that ship sailed in fuller. We were on
Speaker 2: script while they were roly, were like right right in
Speaker 2: the kitchen.
Speaker 4: Island a piece of well then we then we became
Speaker 4: Bob and started shoving it in every possible drawer, behind
Speaker 4: a pillow, under a under a couch cushion. And I think,
Speaker 4: you know, as in a you just you just got
Speaker 4: less brain space. So you know, as a kid, you're like,
Speaker 4: I can remember everything.
Speaker 1: I just got space.
Speaker 5: And I think it was Badge Bonner also to just
Speaker 5: be like I got over you. You probably also felt
Speaker 5: like you had to show up in a different way, right,
Speaker 5: like there was.
Speaker 4: Well exactly as a kid, you know, like I can't
Speaker 4: show up and be the thing that everyone's waiting on.
Speaker 4: You know, like as an adult you sort of have
Speaker 4: more leeway because you're in a little bit more control,
Speaker 4: But you don't ever want to be the kid on
Speaker 4: set that doesn't know what they're doing, because you know,
Speaker 4: I think there's weirdly always that unspoken thing of like
Speaker 4: the kids are more replaceable, the kids and the.
Speaker 6: Dog, right, and we had all of it, oh did we?
Speaker 1: I mean that was kids and dogs and more kids
Speaker 1: and more dogs and don't work elephants we.
Speaker 4: Had the elephants in a living room. We had horses
Speaker 4: walking upstairs, turtles, dogs with Bonner with turtles and bags.
Speaker 1: We had sewing and sorry bring it all.
Speaker 3: So many things get into the pepper Mill episode.
Speaker 1: That donkey, that donkey, Oh dear, yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh what good times?
Speaker 4: Going back to like the beginning, because you said that,
Speaker 4: you know, you started really young and you felt like
Speaker 4: you didn't know what you were doing.
Speaker 1: How how did you like wind up?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 6: I with I was? I was.
Speaker 5: I had my first job out of college. I had
Speaker 5: gotten on a soap opera called Capital, and I thought
Speaker 5: like my career as made like they never canceled. They
Speaker 5: never canceled in those days. And so I started as
Speaker 5: a script supervisor. I worked my way up to an ad,
Speaker 5: I gotten the director skilled, became an ap and then
Speaker 5: the show got canceled, which again never happens. So so
Speaker 5: I was looking for work. I had gone to Lori
Speaker 5: Mar I was going to see a friend of my
Speaker 5: dad's who was in the business, and a girl named
Speaker 5: Yolie walked by and she was like a friend of
Speaker 5: a friend, a friend of a friend, and she was like,
Speaker 5: what are you doing? And I'm like, oh, I'm here
Speaker 5: to see and she said, well, we're shooting a pilot.
Speaker 5: The exec producer's assistant just got fired.
Speaker 6: Can you do it?
Speaker 5: And I was like, well, I mean I've got I'm
Speaker 5: going to go play tennis tomorrow.
Speaker 6: I mean ridiculous. And so she's like, just could you
Speaker 6: just do me a favor? Help me out? So I'm
Speaker 6: like okay, fine.
Speaker 5: So I show up the next day and the pilot
Speaker 5: is full house and the exec producer is Jeff Franklin
Speaker 5: and Miller Boyette and the rest is history. I mean
Speaker 5: literally right place, right time. We did the pilot. It
Speaker 5: was an amazing experience.
Speaker 4: It was incredible that was this the original pilot with
Speaker 4: John Hoos is.
Speaker 6: The original pilot Jeff.
Speaker 5: Jeff then didn't have an assistant, and so he said, well,
Speaker 5: what are you doing? You want to just hang out?
Speaker 5: Just can you do this while we wait to see
Speaker 5: if the show's going to get picked up?
Speaker 6: And so we.
Speaker 5: Did and we He had an office at Laura mar
Speaker 5: and I was there with him, and then we got
Speaker 5: the green light and then he.
Speaker 6: Said, well will you stay?
Speaker 5: And I was like okay, And then we had that
Speaker 5: conversation that becomes awkward because I had come off of something.
Speaker 5: I'd come off of it being an AP, and I
Speaker 5: was like, well, I don't really want to do I mean,
Speaker 5: I like your desk, but I don't only want to do.
Speaker 1: It is and yeah, a little over qualified had.
Speaker 5: Already been hired as the AP, and so they kind
Speaker 5: of made up a title and it was a production manager.
Speaker 5: I mean it's a legitimate title, but it was necessary
Speaker 5: perhaps for that. But they were like, right, you're a
Speaker 5: production manager and it's a catch all. You know, you'll
Speaker 5: work with Don Vanatta And so yeah, that was my start,
Speaker 5: but I mean really amazing, and so in every way
Speaker 5: we literally grew up together. We were there from the start,
Speaker 5: and you had no idea that you struck gold like
Speaker 5: had you had a mirror ball and could foresee the future.
Speaker 1: Any of us, I mean any of us.
Speaker 3: Thirty five years later, the legacy of this show just wow.
Speaker 1: We all got so I.
Speaker 5: Knew that, I mean I knew. I think we all
Speaker 5: knew that. It didn't get any and it doesn't get
Speaker 5: any better than that that. It literally was an amazing
Speaker 5: environment that we were all nurtured and protected, and we
Speaker 5: laughed all the time, and we had these amazing legitimate
Speaker 5: friendships that again you can get on a set, but it's.
Speaker 4: Not always it is right, it's not and it's not
Speaker 4: always the way it is like across the ball.
Speaker 1: Really, I mean it like top to bottom.
Speaker 4: Everybody really enjoyed me, and there was no like strata
Speaker 4: to it, you know what I mean. Like again, like
Speaker 4: you guys were producers and writers and hanging out with
Speaker 4: the moms and having lunch, and the adult cast were
Speaker 4: kind of our families and they were and like the
Speaker 4: wardrobe people were. It was just going to it really
Speaker 4: was a weird, magical little.
Speaker 6: Stamoses on the weekends and having.
Speaker 5: Party, yeah, and everybody bringing something and just hanging out.
Speaker 4: And our big our big back to our big family reunion,
Speaker 4: back to back to work barbecues, you know, I mean
Speaker 4: we talked about all just.
Speaker 5: The just the best and and authentically so I mean really,
Speaker 5: you know, many of us got married, had kids, got divorced.
Speaker 6: During that time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah, I just I have so many happy,
Speaker 5: wayful memories of all of it. And and again, you know,
Speaker 5: I don't think any of us ever took it for granted.
Speaker 6: And I'm it was.
Speaker 5: Remarkable in every in every way, and you know, I
Speaker 5: definitely think it came from Bob and Tom and Jeff
Speaker 5: because you create an environment on set, and you know,
Speaker 5: I mean it was work. It was a lot of work.
Speaker 5: It was happen in the early days.
Speaker 6: You had a lot of network.
Speaker 4: We all worked, we all and we all worked hard,
Speaker 4: and we all you know, did stuff. But like even
Speaker 4: the story that you mentioned where you said, you know, look,
Speaker 4: I started as Jeff's assistant and I was helping out,
Speaker 4: but then I had the conversation like, hey, I'm actually
Speaker 4: kind of more and he was like, okay, well let's
Speaker 4: make up.
Speaker 1: You know. That's and that truly is.
Speaker 4: Like that's Jeff where he's like, okay, well, let's figure
Speaker 4: out how to to keep good quality people and like
Speaker 4: make it worth everyone, you know, make it worth people's
Speaker 4: time and make it enjoy And that really did set
Speaker 4: the tone because it was there was not nobody on
Speaker 4: set that it was like, oh, don't talk to you.
Speaker 4: You can't talk tobout it, right, And that's so often
Speaker 4: the case with showrunners in this business. My god, how
Speaker 4: many show runners do we know where you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: no way to them, nor do you want to right right,
Speaker 4: don't even look at them, Yeah, and I couldn't. I
Speaker 4: guess that's when I hear those stories, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 4: what's that like? Because it just has never been a
Speaker 4: part of my experience in this industry.
Speaker 5: And I think it's I mean again, I feel like
Speaker 5: it was, you know, it was something that was such
Speaker 5: a part of our lives, and then we took it
Speaker 5: and modeled the rest of our.
Speaker 6: Careers and continued to do so off of that, which again.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because I think we all realized like, wait,
Speaker 4: you can do it, like it doesn't have to be
Speaker 4: some miserable, like shaming, ego grinding experience, Like we can
Speaker 4: have fun and do our jobs.
Speaker 5: And even I mean, you know the Miller boyet that
Speaker 5: that era of where they came from and what they
Speaker 5: did right in their careers, and the Gary Marshall piece
Speaker 5: of it, you know, the camp Gary just the way that, yeah,
Speaker 5: they instilled in all of us this work hard and
Speaker 5: play hard.
Speaker 1: And also and take care of each other.
Speaker 6: And I remember, and this is my memory of it.
Speaker 5: I could have been completely I might have missed this,
Speaker 5: but I seem to remember that. So Mary Kay and
Speaker 5: Ashley one loved dance, one loved horseback riding, Bob and
Speaker 5: Tom wanted them to have that experience.
Speaker 6: They did it before they came to set. Also, remember
Speaker 6: in school.
Speaker 5: You guys obviously went to school while you were on set.
Speaker 5: But that he brought in Bill Ny, the science guy.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know if it was Bill, it was No,
Speaker 1: that was Glenn.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is a tutor, but he was a like
Speaker 4: a chemistry teacher, and so he would do all sorts
Speaker 4: of experiments.
Speaker 1: We had the best teachers. They let us go to.
Speaker 4: School in the morning, like I got to go to
Speaker 4: public school in Orange Care and come in in the
Speaker 4: afternoon because it was able to work with the schedule.
Speaker 4: And yeah, they really gave us opportunities to be like
Speaker 4: normal people.
Speaker 6: And I think again it sets the tone for you.
Speaker 5: It had to have been hard, right, Like I can't
Speaker 5: imagine having that level just because your life is so
Speaker 5: different and you have an adult responsibility, right right, But
Speaker 5: I also think probably being surrounded by what really is
Speaker 5: your family and your extended family, and then also some.
Speaker 6: Sense of normal.
Speaker 5: So yeah, however that's defined in those days, I think
Speaker 5: it created an environment where it was healthy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, truly it was.
Speaker 4: There were definitely you know, there's challenges growing up in
Speaker 4: this business, but there's challenges just growing up anyway.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's definitely unique things that come with it.
Speaker 1: But like our.
Speaker 4: Our real families and our our show families like just
Speaker 4: blended and complemented each other so well. And and I think,
Speaker 4: you know, when I think back on it, too, we
Speaker 4: had a lot of really wonderful, powerful women. Oh yes,
Speaker 4: on our set, yes, in our production team, as producers,
Speaker 4: as teachers, as our moms, as what like. There were awesome,
Speaker 4: no nonsense women. And like you know, you said you
Speaker 4: were really young when you started this, Like what was it?
Speaker 4: And you know, it was the eighties. It wasn't exactly
Speaker 4: you know, female empowerment time.
Speaker 1: It was it was hard.
Speaker 4: Like what was that experience like for you kind of
Speaker 4: coming up in the ranks. And I'm sure it could
Speaker 4: have been much different had you not wound up in
Speaker 4: a relatively you know, safe working environment.
Speaker 5: So my father was in the business. My dad was
Speaker 5: was in television like station management, and then he went
Speaker 5: on to produce The Mike Douglas Show and The John
Speaker 5: Davidson and so I was around it, but in a
Speaker 5: very it wasn't Hollywood at that point. It was it
Speaker 5: was small stations around the country, and then it was
Speaker 5: in Philly, and then then they moved to LA and
Speaker 5: so I was around it, and I think I was also.
Speaker 5: I mean, I was born in the Midwest. I was
Speaker 5: born in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. I feel like there was
Speaker 5: this sense of naivete to it all, right, Like I
Speaker 5: knew that this is what I wanted to do, and
Speaker 5: I just knew I was going to do it. Now
Speaker 5: that's probably crazy, but there there, I just I just
Speaker 5: knew and I put myself into it and I did
Speaker 5: it and I worked hard. And so you know, from
Speaker 5: going from and having this opportunity to get into the
Speaker 5: Directors Guild was amazing. And then also that realization in
Speaker 5: that moment that I don't I didn't see the I
Speaker 5: didn't see the shot the way I should as a director.
Speaker 5: So it was like, Okay, I'm going to pivot because
Speaker 5: I don't want to be on the path of being
Speaker 5: a director. I am more of a producer. I like
Speaker 5: the bigger picture. I love putting it all together. So yeah,
Speaker 5: going to full House and then having that opportunity and
Speaker 5: again surrounded by you know, super strong women, some you know,
Speaker 5: more willing to be supportive and mentoring than others.
Speaker 4: As is always the case, right, Yeah, of strong women,
Speaker 4: you find the strong ones that will help lift you up,
Speaker 4: and then you find the ones that are also going
Speaker 4: to punch you in face nine.
Speaker 5: And strong men who were incredibly supportive. I mean those
Speaker 5: early days of those writers, in the continuation of in
Speaker 5: some cases many, but in the after first couple of
Speaker 5: seasons we lost quite a few, but really super great
Speaker 5: men that were mentors and and you know, became friends
Speaker 5: as well, and so yeah, it was it was not easy.
Speaker 6: I mean I I.
Speaker 5: Had my son Christopher, when I was on I was
Speaker 5: actually in a mix and I was walking back. It
Speaker 5: was around eleven eleven thirty and I was walking back
Speaker 5: to the office and my water broke and it was
Speaker 5: my first child. And I was like, oh, well, that's
Speaker 5: that's not great. And I called my doctor and she
Speaker 5: was like, all right, just go home and we'll talk
Speaker 5: in the morning. So my parents were out of town.
Speaker 5: My parents were in Palm Springs. I think my dad
Speaker 5: came in or my dad maybe was in town. Anyway,
Speaker 5: I the next morning, very early, I had Christopher, and
Speaker 5: I remember there was this whole conversation about you know,
Speaker 5: going back to work, and you know, and what was
Speaker 5: that going to look like? And was I going to
Speaker 5: go back to work? And I that there for me,
Speaker 5: It wasn't It wasn't even a conversation. Of course, I
Speaker 5: was going to go back to work, and I wanted
Speaker 5: to go back to work, and and the environment on
Speaker 5: the show allowed me to go back to work and
Speaker 5: to also have some semblance of a balance. I mean,
Speaker 5: I was supported by a lot of people around me
Speaker 5: and in my life that allowed for that to happen.
Speaker 5: But I do I was very conscious in that moment
Speaker 5: of never wanting someone to make a decision for me
Speaker 5: that you know, and you know, this is a single
Speaker 5: parent right that you want to be really protective of.
Speaker 5: You know, it's you're not hiding your children, you're not
Speaker 5: hiding your life. But at the same time, I didn't
Speaker 5: want someone to take that and make that a barrier
Speaker 5: and make a choice for me to say, oh, you're
Speaker 5: a mom, you can't travel, you can't get on a
Speaker 5: bank and go on location, you can't do this. So
Speaker 5: I was very aware, very young that I had to
Speaker 5: be protective and be both a mom but also be
Speaker 5: have my career and make the choices myself, and also
Speaker 5: in some cases I had to sist on making those
Speaker 5: choices myself because people wanted to try to do that
Speaker 5: for you, right.
Speaker 4: And it's really interesting because you know, nobody does that
Speaker 4: to Dank.
Speaker 1: Nobody's like, oh, well, they have kids, they can't travel.
Speaker 5: It's like, I mean, you know, there were times where
Speaker 5: Chris just went on location with me. There were times
Speaker 5: where he said there were He was in the show
Speaker 5: at least a couple of times. Yeah, yeah, he was
Speaker 5: in the He was in the when Jesse took the
Speaker 5: boys to school for the first time and crawls underneath
Speaker 5: the desk.
Speaker 6: He's he all delayed, and then he sinks back in and.
Speaker 5: Underneath the desk and they make eye contact.
Speaker 6: Anders scream stranger, Stranger.
Speaker 5: I was so so Joel was directing that episode, and
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, please don't let him yell at
Speaker 5: my child, please, I mean, because you know.
Speaker 6: You're they're pressure that.
Speaker 5: And Christopher was not an actor or right, he was
Speaker 5: playing one in that particular moment, and and I also
Speaker 5: wanted to create, you know, an environment for Christopher that.
Speaker 6: Was fun, so he didn't feel the I was like,
Speaker 6: go have fun.
Speaker 5: But I was just like hiding in the background, just
Speaker 5: you know, please please, you know, please get your line.
Speaker 5: And he did, and you know, and it's all there
Speaker 5: and and now it's a fun fact for him when
Speaker 5: he's doing he's doing like an icebreaker with somebody or
Speaker 5: a work or something no one ever expects.
Speaker 1: So that was I love that He's like, I was
Speaker 1: actually in full House one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jodi and I can relate to that because our
Speaker 2: daughters were on Fuller a couple of episodes of Fuller
Speaker 2: and suddenly we became these stage moms were like, first
Speaker 2: of all, how do you get a.
Speaker 6: Work from it?
Speaker 1: Because we had no idea how to do it work.
Speaker 1: We were like, oh what I got to do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we're like paperwork and we were like
Speaker 4: what do we do with this? We were literally in
Speaker 4: my dressing room calling our moms, calling our moms and
Speaker 4: going like, what do you fill out for this? And
Speaker 4: when they were like, oh, yeah, yeah, we're asking the
Speaker 4: onset teachers what we do, like yeah, we all of
Speaker 4: a sudden we're like we don't know. And then we're
Speaker 4: standing there watching the monitor and we see them in
Speaker 4: the background and we're.
Speaker 1: Like, look alive, look alive, Look come on be a.
Speaker 4: Party, like like say it and each other in the
Speaker 4: and we're like, oh yeah, I get I get it.
Speaker 6: And it's so funny.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's so amazing to have that experience and
Speaker 5: and to be on the other side of it, and
Speaker 5: you know, and something that you just grew up with
Speaker 5: and just was very normal.
Speaker 6: Those are those are very.
Speaker 5: I just remember them most anxious moments. Whenever whenever, and
Speaker 5: my parents were on an episode. My parents were on
Speaker 5: the Christmas episode. You'll see them.
Speaker 6: If you watch the episode, you will see my.
Speaker 1: Father which one which Christmas?
Speaker 6: I think it was in the like season.
Speaker 5: Two or three when we may read out the when
Speaker 5: the when we the plane got.
Speaker 4: Stuck in the airport.
Speaker 1: We did the.
Speaker 5: Season in that one if you watched the episode again
Speaker 5: by any for any reason, is in like literally this
Speaker 5: lime green ski jacket, which evidently was the color of
Speaker 5: the season at that moment.
Speaker 1: It was the eighties. Everything was dayre.
Speaker 5: And he found the camera. I mean, I was like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, Dad, you He.
Speaker 1: Literally was stop you're pulling focus.
Speaker 6: He was crossing.
Speaker 5: He's literally I mean he might as well have been
Speaker 5: the guest star of it, right.
Speaker 4: He was like, I am gonna find every shot to
Speaker 4: be he was Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean I I saw the cut of it. I
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, please don't let anyone know
Speaker 5: that that was my father, my mother.
Speaker 1: I love it. They just hear, Yeah, all of our
Speaker 1: parents have been in the show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was Those were funny, funny, funny time.
Speaker 5: So literally a family affair. My daughter Olivia never in
Speaker 5: never in an episode.
Speaker 3: Oh when was she born during the run of the show,
Speaker 3: where as she was.
Speaker 6: Born in ninety seven.
Speaker 5: Okay, and she was born in ninety seven, so no,
Speaker 5: never fan. You know, she came to the twenty fifth
Speaker 5: reunion Chrystal the party, right, but no, she was, she
Speaker 5: was she missed those those heydays.
Speaker 6: But so fun.
Speaker 5: I love that your daughters were in the show. That
Speaker 5: that is amazing. Did they did they enjoy it? Did
Speaker 5: they do they like the sad?
Speaker 6: Is it boring?
Speaker 4: It was Zoe in Felicity. Zoe was very much like
Speaker 4: she was like, that was fine. It was kind of
Speaker 4: boring though. Did you to sit around all day? And
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, yeah, it's a lot of yeah
Speaker 4: and wait.
Speaker 2: Felicity was very excited about it, but she did realize, Wow,
Speaker 2: this is hard work, like her call time was seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, this is so early.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, it's a lot of and they were
Speaker 2: treated so well, like they went to hair and makeup,
Speaker 2: they got to hang out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they weren't with the hurd of other extras like
Speaker 3: a special.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love that.
Speaker 3: So that was short lived. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they've both were like, yeah, we're me while
Speaker 1: my younger one.
Speaker 4: I don't think she she didn't get to be I
Speaker 4: don't think she ever did any extra because she was
Speaker 4: a lot younger than everybody else. Yeah, so she was
Speaker 4: I think she was kind of too little for any
Speaker 4: of the any of the scenes. But yeah, she probably
Speaker 4: would have been great, and she would have been pulling
Speaker 4: focus in all like can you settle down in the
Speaker 4: background there?
Speaker 5: And I mean yeah, so if you watch an episode,
Speaker 5: you'll see my dad and my mom.
Speaker 1: Oh so glove now, well now we have to go back.
Speaker 1: That's there's our everywhere you look for that.
Speaker 6: At the best.
Speaker 5: I mean, it just makes me smile. It makes me smile,
Speaker 5: and it's also nice to have that, right, it's nice
Speaker 5: to have it on tape. Yeah, yeah, exactly, do you
Speaker 5: still because I okay, good?
Speaker 6: I have them, you do them.
Speaker 1: I have them on DVD.
Speaker 4: Some I have a box somewhere when I took all
Speaker 4: of the vhs and had them transferred.
Speaker 1: Over to DVD, which I should have just waited.
Speaker 4: But but I think in those DVDs. I've got the
Speaker 4: gag reels somewhere.
Speaker 6: But I like it.
Speaker 5: I will I will search those because I have them.
Speaker 5: I did the same thing. I like, put Chris's episode
Speaker 5: My Parents episode on dB. Right, I went to the
Speaker 5: tape thing the vhs right right, So I have those
Speaker 5: and I you may not remember this, but I remember
Speaker 5: being in the edit bay at the end of the
Speaker 5: season and Jeff cutting the gag reel with Don Vanatta
Speaker 5: and Jeff and Jeff insisting that we use love Shack
Speaker 5: by the B fifty twos.
Speaker 6: Do you remember that?
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, Jeff, like, is that is
Speaker 5: that the most appropriate song for for a full But
Speaker 5: it was yeah, and you know, it was the song
Speaker 5: of you know, I'm gonna say the song was yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 4: We it was the Big fifty two. Is they sing
Speaker 4: about lobsters? You know what I mean, who knows what
Speaker 4: they're really talking about?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So yeah, so that that But I have I mean,
Speaker 5: I yes, so I will find those. And also I
Speaker 5: feel like you maybe already talked about this, but I
Speaker 5: feel like both of your moms created that cookbook. Remember
Speaker 5: that was like the Okay, it was like the Red
Speaker 5: full House.
Speaker 4: That was so if I remember correctly, the Red full
Speaker 4: House Cookbook was a classroom project that we did that.
Speaker 4: I think Adria and our moms kind of well, I
Speaker 4: know our moms contributed, but I think it was we
Speaker 4: came up with an idea that we were going to
Speaker 4: create a full house cookbook, a full house family cookbook
Speaker 4: from producers and actors. Everybody could contribute if they wanted to,
Speaker 4: and our moms were in charge of, like I think,
Speaker 4: getting some the recipes together and helping Adria put it together.
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 4: Did we sell copies of it for like, for charity
Speaker 4: or did we just create it and give it out.
Speaker 1: I can't that. I can't remember.
Speaker 6: I seem to remember you guys just created it.
Speaker 5: I remember it's in a red because I still it's an.
Speaker 1: We us. My mom uses it all the time.
Speaker 6: Robin, Donn Rob and Donnie's Oh absolutely.
Speaker 1: I'm Donny chicken Wings.
Speaker 5: I remember I think it could it have been a
Speaker 5: Christmas present or something.
Speaker 1: That might have been it.
Speaker 4: It might have been a Christmas thing that we did,
Speaker 4: like from are like from us, like our class or whatever.
Speaker 6: It was amazing, it was so oh it's great good.
Speaker 6: And you also got a little bit of everyone's personality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we had.
Speaker 4: I think Dave submitted like a woodchuck, phizzy Woodchuck fizzy.
Speaker 4: Bob had something in there about how to make ice cubes.
Speaker 3: Bob had egg and bread, how to make egg and bread.
Speaker 1: Egg and bread.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, First of all, egg and bread is delicious,
Speaker 4: and he made it for me when I would spend
Speaker 4: weekends at his.
Speaker 1: House with the kids. Egg and bread.
Speaker 4: And you take the egg and you chop it out
Speaker 4: with the little thing in the middle, and then you
Speaker 4: put the egg in the middle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh that sounds the classic.
Speaker 1: It's classic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna have to go back then and and
Speaker 5: look at that particular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's it.
Speaker 4: But Dave put a few in. Dave and Bob put
Speaker 4: a few, and that are just ridiculous. Sherry Barber put in, uh,
Speaker 4: chicken and rice which you have made for years, family
Speaker 4: biscuits and chocolate gravy. The chocolate great like chocolate sauce
Speaker 4: with the on the biscuits.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's like he's in there or was that? No?
Speaker 4: No, Barbara's a secret, Barbara, top secret, top secret, under
Speaker 4: under like lock and key. I think Candice knows the recipe. Now,
Speaker 4: yes she does, but she won't say. But she can't say.
Speaker 4: It's passed down like yeah, so it'll get passed.
Speaker 3: Down to Natasha. But then Natasha's got.
Speaker 6: To keep it a secret too, right, Well, she did
Speaker 6: she make it on Fuller House? Did can't?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? She would make it every Friday.
Speaker 4: She'd make cookies because all our parents came to every
Speaker 4: Fuller taping on Fridays and she would make the cookies
Speaker 4: and bring them a bess.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: That wraps up Part one of our interview with the
Speaker 4: wonderful Karen Miller. She played such a big role in
Speaker 4: both of our full House journeys, so to have her
Speaker 4: on with us today is incredibly special, and we're going
Speaker 4: to have more that we're going to talk to Karen about.
Speaker 4: So join us this Friday for part two of our
Speaker 4: interview with her, and make sure you're following us on
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