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Speaker 1: Dane's Dan Patrick's Show. I was accused of being meme. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Nate and Oklahoma called up and wanted to wish his

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Speaker 1: birthday to my brother Mike. It was funny. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program already in progress. It's our two on this Thursday.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Golf this week the Honda Classic. You

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Speaker 1: all four days. Arizona Cardinals are becoming the destination for

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Speaker 1: the NFL Snowbirds. They're collecting thirty something stars to compliment

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Speaker 1: their twenty something quarterback Kyler Murray. Yesterday they signed thirty

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Speaker 1: two year old AJ Green, thirty six year old kicker

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Speaker 1: Matt Prater, and they've already signed the thirty one year

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Speaker 1: old defensive lineman J. J. Watt. Now there's an emphasis

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Speaker 1: on youth in the league. The old guy formula can work,

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Speaker 1: though we saw that with Tampa with Tom Brady and

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Speaker 1: Gronk they won a Super Bowl. Arizona is not quite there,

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Speaker 1: but Green joins twenty eight year old DeAndre Hopkins to

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Speaker 1: form a potentially explosive wide receiving corps. Then you have

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Speaker 1: the thirty seven year old free agent Larry Fitzgerald. There's

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Speaker 1: a good chance that Green will take his spot, but

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Speaker 1: it's an interesting roster and once again it shows you

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Speaker 1: what you can do when you have a quarterback on

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Speaker 1: his rookie deal. Murray is going to enter his third

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Speaker 1: season after everything the Cardinals have done, he'll be expected

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Speaker 1: to take that next big leap and then he's going

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Speaker 1: to get paid after that. So it's an exciting offseason.

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Speaker 1: But that just ramps up the prey. Sure to win

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Speaker 1: right now in the desert, and you know, Vegas is

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Speaker 1: starting to fall in love with Arizona a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: As far as odds to win the Super Bowl, now

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Speaker 1: you might go, okay, they went from fifty to one

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Speaker 1: to thirty to one, okay, But that doesn't mean they're

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Speaker 1: not going to improve once the regular season starts, once

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Speaker 1: they get everybody together. It's a solid start. Tough division,

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Speaker 1: but Arizona has done quite well. You start to look

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Speaker 1: at winners in free agency. We love to hand out

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Speaker 1: grades or who won and who lost. Cardinals, they lost Reddick,

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Speaker 1: who was a was their best passionate rusher last year.

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Speaker 1: He signed a one year deal. The Niners resigning Trent Williams.

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Speaker 1: That's great. That not really free agency. Patriots, they brought

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Speaker 1: in a lot of players. Chiefs got a couple of

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Speaker 1: alignment Kyle Long coming out of retirement, Joe Tuney. So

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Speaker 1: they did okay, right now, they're desperate for lineman. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Long comes out of retirement and he's a former Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl lineman. But they need They needed to do something

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line. But free agency, when it comes

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Speaker 1: to giving grades, I'll give New England credit. You know,

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Speaker 1: they went after it this year. They normally don't. The

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Speaker 1: Niners resigning Trent Williams. Okay, they didn't do anything free

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Speaker 1: agency wise. I'm still trying to figure out what the

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Speaker 1: Raiders are doing. It feels like they're giving They used

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Speaker 1: to have a really good offensive line. You can make

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Speaker 1: a case the best offensive line in football. That's not

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Speaker 1: the case now unless they know something that these other

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Speaker 1: teams don't know. But they were giving up starters on

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Speaker 1: their offensive line, and that's the coveted position to me

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Speaker 1: wide receivers in free agency and also lineman in free agency,

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Speaker 1: and it feels like there's still a lot of receivers

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Speaker 1: out there. You know, Kenny Golladay is a prized acquisition

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Speaker 1: that's that'll be interesting to see because that's the kind

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Speaker 1: this time, the source told me that this is what

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears offered to the Seattle Seahawks for Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: It was three ones, three and two players. And I

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Speaker 1: said at the time, and we were trying to speculate,

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Speaker 1: and it was a little dangerous because I said to Paulie,

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Speaker 1: let's not speculate here because I don't know if these

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Speaker 1: players were involved in the trade. You know a Kam

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Speaker 1: Hicks and Khalil Mack. I've since been told that they

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Speaker 1: were up for grabs if Seattle was interested in them.

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Speaker 1: That basically there was nobody on the roster who was

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Speaker 1: unprotected or protected I should say. And then I started

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Speaker 1: to wonder about this, if the Seahawks knew that the

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Speaker 1: Bears didn't have enough to offer them, and why are

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Speaker 1: you engaging with the Bears? Because I was told teams

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Speaker 1: were trying to make offers with the Seahawks, the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: weren't returning phone calls. And now you have the two

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Speaker 1: gms who meet in North Dakota. There there for a

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Speaker 1: pro day for Trey Lamps, the quarterback. They have a conversation,

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Speaker 1: according to Ian Rappaport, and the Bears present their offer. Well, Seattle, then,

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Speaker 1: from what I was told, Pete Carroll knicks the deal

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Speaker 1: that John Schneider the GM was open to it. And discussing,

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll said, no, well, don't you know that going

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Speaker 1: in Chicago doesn't have a high draft pick. They don't

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback to exchange with you, So what is

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Speaker 1: it that you want? And you already know that I

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Speaker 1: know the market's been set here. I guess that teams

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Speaker 1: I go, if I go to a I want to

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Speaker 1: buy a house, I have my offer and then the

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Speaker 1: person who's selling it says no, and there's no counter.

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Speaker 1: I go, wait, wait, you're supposed to counter. That's how

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Speaker 1: it works here. What does it take to get your house?

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Speaker 1: But you didn't get that with Seattle. Apparently Seattle didn't

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Speaker 1: want to sell, certainly not to the Bears. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's a message to Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere. You may not like it here,

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Speaker 1: but hey, you signed the deal, you're under contract. This

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Speaker 1: your trade request, roster the list of teams you would

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Speaker 1: go to. But the Bears are getting criticized because they

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Speaker 1: swung for the fences and they didn't get their guy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they at least tried. Now, if you want to say,

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Speaker 1: then we could have a discussion because he has failed

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Speaker 1: all in in your last year there in Chicago unless

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Speaker 1: Wilson three first round picks. They're not high first round picks.

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, Kiem Hicks, really good defensive players. But okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a quarterback and Pete Carroll. The only

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Speaker 1: way this happens is am I getting a quarterback in return?

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Speaker 1: But why meet with the Bears if you're not going

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Speaker 1: to counter? Are you doing them a favor by saying,

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Speaker 1: all right, give me your best shot here? Your first

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Speaker 1: offer is not your best offer? But what else could

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Speaker 1: they have offered here? Where Seattle's going to go? We

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Speaker 1: cannot turn that down. But this feels like the GM

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Speaker 1: might be open to this, but the coach is not

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Speaker 1: open to this. In Seattle still Pete Carroll's team and

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. This is about Pete's legacy as well. But

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Speaker 1: Pete with Russ, Pete without Russ that's a completely different legacy.

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Speaker 1: And if you're going to make that move, what do

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Speaker 1: I have? How am I reloading here? But I I

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Speaker 1: felt bad that all of the criticism the Bears received

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Speaker 1: because of this, they did try. Now I can criticize them.

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Speaker 1: They traded up for Trubisky, they brought in Mike Glennon.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've had them. It's been a mess. They

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Speaker 1: be critical of them. They're desperate, and I always go

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Speaker 1: back to Jimmy Johnson saying, give me a desperate team.

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Speaker 1: Let me talk to a desperate team. Well, if they

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Speaker 1: don't have what you want, it doesn't matter how desperate

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Speaker 1: they are, Like, who do you want on the Bears?

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Speaker 1: Nobody not if you're trading Russell Wilson to the Bears,

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Speaker 1: and it still comes down to if you're a russ

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Speaker 1: and let me imagine Russe would get there. Your two

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Speaker 1: draft picks for the next three years. There's nothing attractive

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Speaker 1: be fired, and you're gonna be there going hello anybody. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's also interesting that people are treating the Bears as

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Speaker 1: if they're the seventy six Buccaneers. They were eight and

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Speaker 1: eight last year and qualified for the playoffs. I know,

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Speaker 1: they barely qualified. In the past three years, they were

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Speaker 1: twelve and four eight and Ate and Ate and Nate

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Speaker 1: made the playoffs twice. If Andy Dalton is more of

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Speaker 1: a stable light upgrade at the quarterback position, this could

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Speaker 1: work out. Okay, it's not exciting, but it could work out.

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Speaker 1: And no one's even considering that as a possibility. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think they're doing what they need to do. They

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Speaker 1: didn't get who they wanted and you're not getting to

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Speaker 1: Shaun Watson. So you have Andy Dalton. All right, you

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Speaker 1: try next year. But you don't have you don't have

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Speaker 1: enough to attract the sadle Seahawks attention right now. And

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Speaker 1: I still think that this comes down to if Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson says, all right, I'll consider going to the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: or the Jets. You'll have a deal done this weekend,

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Speaker 1: because the Jets and Dolphins have already put an offer

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Speaker 1: on the table for us. I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: offer is, but if you give me time, maybe I

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Speaker 1: can find out. But I mean that happens right now,

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Speaker 1: because then I get the second pick overall, or I

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Speaker 1: I can get to a thrown in there as well,

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Speaker 1: or I can get both, and I got a young

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Speaker 1: quarterback under contract. That's what you want. If you said

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Speaker 1: and maybe a defensive Quinnon Williams, a defensive starter. We'll

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Speaker 1: give you three first all told, including this year's second

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Speaker 1: defensive line. Okay, Like, I got my quarterback on a

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Speaker 1: rookie contract, a defensive starter, and I got a couple

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. I get the third pick overall, and I

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Speaker 1: can take two a tongue of Ioloa, and I can

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Speaker 1: second round Houston State. You love. I did love Popeye Joe.

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Speaker 1: I think you covered a Popeye Jones game at Southern.

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Speaker 1: We were sitting behind you. Yeah, I had that, and

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Speaker 1: they had a guard as well. For some reason, they

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Speaker 1: had a guard and they had Popeye Jones and I

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Speaker 1: remember that was Southern. It was at Southern Illinois. That's

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Speaker 1: the first time that Paulie and I crossed pass. We

429
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Speaker 1: were screaming at you during halftime, inviting you back to

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Speaker 1: our fraternity house, and you gave us the old thumbs

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Speaker 1: up blow off. No, but I did go back to

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Speaker 1: somebody's house after the game. There was a guy there

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Speaker 1: named Dave Chrome. He was a long time sportscaster locally. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You kicked it with those guys. Yeah, and he rubbed

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Speaker 1: it in forever with me. Yeah. Is he still a

436
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Speaker 1: sports conistry just like in Kansas City or something. I think, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're a good time in Carbondale. Yah. I did. I did,

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Speaker 1: and then I mean I was one and done. I

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Speaker 1: mean I was. I needed one one night in Carbondale

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Speaker 1: and I was good. I made up for it. I

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Speaker 1: was five and a half and done it. Yeah. Years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: now it was all you gotta do, you know, give

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Speaker 1: me a keg back then, and a bunch of dudes

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Speaker 1: just sitting around talking about Sports Center, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, oh hang out, you're very popular, guys. Very

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Speaker 1: I'm what a loser I was? I was. I went

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Speaker 1: back to this house. I just meet this guy, a

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Speaker 1: local sportscaster, and I go back there. He goes like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we got a keg. I said, okay, I got my

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Speaker 1: suit and tie on and I go back to this

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Speaker 1: off campus house. Was that before? Was that when you

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Speaker 1: first got the ESPN and you were doing a little

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Speaker 1: play by play? Yeah, well I had to do it

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Speaker 1: on my days off because I wasn't good enough that

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Speaker 1: they would actually build it into the schedule. They'd always

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Speaker 1: give me, you know, these games that maybe nobody really

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Speaker 1: wanted to go to. That's why I went to Southern Illinois.

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Speaker 1: I did do Butler and Wisconsin Green Bay. And not

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Wisconsin Green Bay. You're the king of Directional school.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but it was at Butler and I got

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Speaker 1: to do the game with George McGinnis, the former ABA Star,

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Speaker 1: Indiana Star, and I loved it. The game was great.

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Speaker 1: It was first time I met Tony Bennett and Tony

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Speaker 1: Bennett's father, and it was a lot of fun. And

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Speaker 1: to be able to go to hinkle Field House, it was.

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Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite favorite stops that I

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Speaker 1: had along the way. I didn't get Marquee games, and

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Speaker 1: rightfully so, but I did. I made the best of

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Speaker 1: what I had there Wisconsin Green Bay, and I think

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Speaker 1: Tony Bennett won it with a jumper at the buzzer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah point, I guess see you getting your assignment sheet.

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Speaker 1: University of Texas El Paso, not even that. The University

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Speaker 1: of North Carolina, Greensboro. No offense, but it's not that tark. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's okay. Yeah, yeah, you know you got to start somewhere. Yeah. McLevin,

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Speaker 1: by the way, been doing some Jim Jackson All Star research.

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Speaker 1: He got hurt after fifty one games. He dislocated his

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Speaker 1: ankle that year, so that's probably maybe what actually, you

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Speaker 1: know what the All Star Games mid season. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: they had an amazing team with Jamal Mashburn, Jim Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, Roy Tarpley was but they never I don't

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Speaker 1: remember that team being a real contender. No, but they

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Speaker 1: had the Roy Tarpley drama because of substance abuse. Roy

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Speaker 1: Tarpley out of Michigan. He was really a talented player,

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Speaker 1: but they just they couldn't keep him in the uniform. Seton.

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Speaker 1: You have a bracket bet with Fritzie that America has

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Speaker 1: been waiting for, right, okay, the bracket Challenge. So you

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Speaker 1: were talking earlier about how you wish that Todd would

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Speaker 1: grow his hair out on one side and comb it over, yes,

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Speaker 1: which would be tremendous. So what I was going to

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Speaker 1: propose is if Todd finishes ahead of me in the

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Speaker 1: Celebrity Bracket Challenge, head ahead of me in a higher place,

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Speaker 1: I will grow my hair out on one side and

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Speaker 1: shave the top and then grow give myself a comb over.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so I finish ahead of Todd he has

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Speaker 1: to do the comb over. Okay, So this is the

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Speaker 1: Lou Henson bet if people aren't familiar with Lou Henson,

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Speaker 1: the former a line I head coach who had the

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Speaker 1: loud and he grew it long on one side and

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Speaker 1: then combed it all the way over and uh and

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Speaker 1: it worked. Yes, before we as much as I would

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Speaker 1: love to see this on either side before we consummate

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Speaker 1: this bet, I have the feelings missus O'Connor is gonna

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Speaker 1: have a big issue with this one. No, she understands content. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, she's a radio person. She's an expert on content.

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Speaker 1: Does she know what her husband's gonna look like for

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Speaker 1: a couple of months? Well, okay, so I have to

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Speaker 1: grow my hair out and then comb it over. Right,

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Speaker 1: I would have to shave the top and then how

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Speaker 1: long do I wear the comb over for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the year? Here? What do you got to take

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Speaker 1: a good thing and make it? Oh? I don't, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Get it a day or is it a

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Speaker 1: full week? I think a week? A week Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: But how long would it take you to grow your

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Speaker 1: hair that you could do a comb over? And how

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Speaker 1: long would it take for Fritzie. Yeah again, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Fritzie has a choice in this matter. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he can grow his hair long. Yeah, you can.

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Speaker 1: You can grow it out, and then we have to

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Speaker 1: tame it. And one of us can, based on our

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Speaker 1: ages and our genetics. Can you can bounce back very

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Speaker 1: quickly from that hair situation. Unlike myself whenever I drew

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Speaker 1: to myself, I'm not gonna what do you mean bounce back?

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Speaker 1: You're like, it's not You're not You're just growing your

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Speaker 1: hair long for a little while and then you cut

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Speaker 1: it short again exactly the way it is. Can't get balder.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna have the option if I really

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Speaker 1: hate the way it looks to put a hat on.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the it's a bet. As soon as you

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Speaker 1: leave the studio, you can put a hat on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which I'm gonna guess happens all the time. You can

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Speaker 1: wear a hat when you come in, and then you

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Speaker 1: for three hours, you take the hat off, and then

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Speaker 1: when you leave, you can put your hat on. I

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Speaker 1: don't have to. I know I'm being ah, I'm being

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Speaker 1: a spoil sports with that. That's a. That's a that's

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Speaker 1: a tough thing for me to agree to. Why because

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Speaker 1: I know how my hair grows on the sides when

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Speaker 1: I don't touch it, and it'll just be I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm going I'm being a total bad guy. I'm up

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Speaker 1: being a team player and being put on the spot

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Speaker 1: naching Weighty on TV and being to me, yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody else want that bet with Seaton? Paulie? Are

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Speaker 1: you up for it? I'll take the bet with our

545
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Speaker 1: brackets if Fritzie still has to grow his hair out

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Speaker 1: for the loss, Like, I'll just put my bracket in there.

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Speaker 1: But I'll I'm just kidding. I just wantz what if

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Speaker 1: Fritzie can't cut his hair for as long as it

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Speaker 1: takes Seaton to grow out his lutu? Like? Is there

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Speaker 1: is there some way that we can salvage this bet? Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have to decide anything right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm putting it out there that I

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Speaker 1: would be willing to have a bet with Todd and

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Speaker 1: that I'll give myself a bald comb over. I'll shave

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Speaker 1: the top of my head in that ring, yeah, that horseshoe, yes,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll have hair longer and comb it over. Todd,

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Speaker 1: you always do well in the Brackett challenge. What are

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Speaker 1: you worried about? I do? But this could be one

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Speaker 1: of those strangers of all the years. This will be

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Speaker 1: the stranger year that going chalk is like the worst

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Speaker 1: thing you could have done. I'll give it some thought.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say, where's Jimmy Jackson? Okay, if you

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Speaker 1: don't want to do the hairdo thing, that's a great

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Speaker 1: question I'm getting. If jim Jackson doesn't call in the

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Speaker 1: next thirty minutes, then you have to do the contest

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Speaker 1: with Seaton. I don't have a choice in the man. No,

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Speaker 1: you don't, not with that because you're just goofing around here.

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Speaker 1: I'm goofing around because the guest isn't being responsible. There

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Speaker 1: is no guests, so what are you doing? I'm scary

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Speaker 1: that my screen waiting for the zoom to pop up.

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Speaker 1: It's not showing on all. Right. Let me let me

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Speaker 1: take a break because now there's a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 1: Now the clock is ticking literally on this this bet yes, Paul,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna book anyone in the country named Jim Jackson. Baba,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of very common name. Uh. Jim Jackson's

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Speaker 1: appearance was going to be brought to you by Capitol One.

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Speaker 1: It would have been good. What's in your wallet? Let's

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Speaker 1: take a break here, let's regroup. Maybe you need to

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Speaker 1: put Jimmy Jackson's phone number in your wallet, Like what's

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00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: in your wallet? Maybe Jim Jackson. That would have helped

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Speaker 1: to thank you? All right, well, take a break back

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Speaker 1: after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine

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Speaker 1: we're still waiting on Jim Jackson. We'll see if we

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Speaker 1: had a chance to have him on. I saw where

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry landed on his tailbone last night, and if

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Speaker 1: you've ever done that on a basketball court, it kind

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Speaker 1: of hits you. And then it hits you really hard.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you get ready to get up and

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Speaker 1: that really hurts. And Steph had to limp off last night.

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Speaker 1: I know that we do this well. I try to

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Speaker 1: avoid this, but I know in our business, my business

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Speaker 1: that you know, we love to get out in front

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Speaker 1: of MVP talk, love to do that NFL week to week,

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Speaker 1: who's the MVP, Who's the MVP? And we start earlier

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Speaker 1: and earlier. It feels like every year and we did

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Speaker 1: that in the NFL, who's your MVP? You know, I

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Speaker 1: had Russell Wilson MVP last year. Look pretty good. For

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Speaker 1: eight or nine weeks, and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: they didn't let Russ cook anymore. Now you have the

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Speaker 1: NBA of who's the MVP Joe l Embiid. Joel Embiid

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Speaker 1: is out for a couple of weeks, so now he's

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Speaker 1: down the list the joker. Hey, those are great numbers,

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Speaker 1: but does anybody really care? Luca was never winning the

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Speaker 1: MVP because the MAVs aren't good enough, but people had

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Speaker 1: him as the favorite. Kawhi Leonard's not in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: You have Lebron who was in the conversation and then

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Speaker 1: a d went out and then he apparently dropped out

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Speaker 1: of the conversation, and now apparently he's back in. Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant was in. Now he's not playing, so he's not

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Speaker 1: up there. Steph Curry I thought was going to be

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Speaker 1: the MVP at the start of the season, and he

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Speaker 1: might still be, but I don't think he will being.

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Speaker 1: And then you have James Harden my leading leaving out

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Speaker 1: anybody else. Mccleman, I don't think he said, Yannis, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's right, Yannis. He's not gonna three peat, right because yeah,

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00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: because he's already got a twice back to back. I mean,

633
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: but you know, would he be in the conversation otherwise,

634
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: sure he should be, absolutely, but it's now it feels

635
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: like James Harden is the conversation. And my point is,

636
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: I don't vote on this anymore, but if I did vote,

637
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: I would not vote James Harden from VP because as

638
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: much credit as I want to give him for what

639
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: he's done with the Nets, I also have to give

640
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: him criticism for what he did with the Houston Rockets

641
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: in the same season. I don't think you can be

642
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: one of the least valuable players with what you did

643
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: to a franchise and then the most valuable player in

644
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: the league in the same year. And as great as

645
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: James is, you know where I stand on it. I

646
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: find him fascinating. One of the few players that I

647
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: seek out. If I know he's playing in a game,

648
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: I would watch that game. And I find him as

649
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: fascinating an offensive weapon as we've seen in the last

650
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: thirty years in my opinion, But I can't give him MVP.

651
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: Plus when Durant comes back now all of a sudden,

652
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: like Harden will be the second best player on his

653
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: own team. And you know, Durant is going to get

654
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: his touches Kyrie. And then you have James Harden. And

655
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: Harden has given credit for kind of reinventing himself. And

656
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: to that, I say, well, if you know it's not

657
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: going to continue to work for all those years in Houston,

658
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: don't you have to try something different. If he didn't

659
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: try to reinvent his game, then I'd have real concerns

660
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: with James Harden. But he has reinvented himself. But he

661
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: needed to because what he did in Houston, they were

662
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: a curiosity but never a real factor. Close to being

663
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: a factor, but he never came up big in the postseason. Yeah, poet,

664
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: how about we throw Damian Lillard an MVP thirty points,

665
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: eight rebounds, are eight assists, four rebounds. Absolutely, you know,

666
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: give it. It's almost like coming of a career achievement.

667
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: That franchise. They're twenty three and sixteen, They're definitely going

668
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: to the playoffs like they always do. I know he's

669
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: not a one seed, but think about that franchise without him. Hey,

670
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. Yeah, I mean, you're the

671
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: biggest fan. Put him, put him in there and love him.

672
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: I said, if they're games on the line. I want

673
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: him shooting. I do, but but it's he's one of

674
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: those candidates where you go, oh, yeah, that's right. He's

675
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: never one of those guys where you mentioned I didn't

676
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: I didn't even do it. I felt victim to what

677
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm criticizing here. We take Dame Lillard for granted. If

678
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: he played elsewhere, it would be different because you know

679
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: the media deals with you know, hey, what's convenient for him?

680
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: Not everybody, but it's hey, I get to watch that game,

681
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: watch that player. Oh I gotta stay up to watch

682
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: that player. And it's easy to watch Joe l Embiid

683
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: or the Greek Freak, or Luca or Lebron. Damian Lillard

684
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: got to go out of your way a little bit there.

685
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: But he's he'll be one of those players that when

686
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: he's done, we'll look back and say he was one

687
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: of the most underrated players in the history of the NBA.

688
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: I truly believe it. Yeah, mcclub just like it around.

689
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: Another dark horse guy people are bringing up now is

690
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler with the heat just because the heat on fire.

691
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think I've looked at his number. He's

692
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 1: only averaging about twenty two points a game. Yeah, where

693
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: was it at the beginning of the year, because they

694
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: were terrible at the beginning of the year. But yeah,

695
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: they're storming up the standings. Though again, we like to

696
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: include more so we have more to talk about, Like

697
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: you don't want a foregone conclusion where you go, yeah,

698
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: it's that guy, that's it. Where's like the Greek Freak

699
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: he had the numbers last year. I fought Lebron who

700
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: reinvented himself. Lebron was the most valuable player and this

701
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with the postseason. Greek Freak

702
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: was great during the regular season. But that's where it's

703
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: kind of a tricky award because I didn't think the

704
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: Bucks were going to win the championship at any point

705
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: last year, whereas the Lakers, I thought that they were

706
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: going to win the championship. That's value plus we've always

707
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, it feels like we changed the rules with

708
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: Lebron that membery didn't play any defense. Remember a few

709
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: years where he did and he didn't play defense. But

710
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden we were like, yeah, but

711
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: Lebron doesn't play defense. Okay, but look at the Lakers. There,

712
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Lakers a number one defensive team in the NBA, I

713
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: think right now by far. But in A's not playing,

714
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: does Lebron get any credit for that? And he answers no.

715
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: So it's all we're trying to do is come up

716
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: with different reasons as to why somebody should get it

717
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: or somebody shouldn't get it. I think the Joker's fascinating

718
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: watching him every single night. Those numbers are incredible. Luca

719
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: had a big night last night. Joe l Embiid before

720
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: he got injured, was the MVP in my opinion, But

721
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: now the door's open for James Harden. Maybe Lebron comes

722
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: back in if you even care about this, because a

723
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: lot of this is just, hey, we need to fill

724
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: ten minutes, fifteen minutes a segment. I have a guest

725
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: on now that that's what it comes down to, because

726
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't you know, we're trying to handicap this in March.

727
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: Figure out who's the MVP, all right, you want it

728
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: to be James Harden. Great, James Harden. Like I don't

729
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: let mean, I don't get into a you know, a

730
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: real knockdown for take drag out here with Max and

731
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: Stephen a like I It's just not something that's that

732
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: important to me. But I will say for anybody who

733
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: thinks that James Harden's the MVP, you also have to

734
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: factor in what he did in Houston in the same season,

735
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: because he helped dismantle a franchise and that franchise has

736
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: lost what eighteen games in a row? They lost, They've

737
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: lost eighteen and they just gave up PJ. Tucker. He's

738
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: now with the Bucks. They're going for the record. They're

739
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: not even as bad as Minnesota. I imagine if you go,

740
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: we lost eighteen in row, but we're not Minnesota, what

741
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: are you smiling about? Todd? Do you find Jim Jackson

742
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,960
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743
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