1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:21,788 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,548 --> 00:00:24,148 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:25,068 --> 00:00:26,468 Speaker 3: That's right, this is Good Morning Football. 5 00:00:26,468 --> 00:00:29,588 Speaker 4: We are presented by Old Trapper Beef Jerkey, Live in La, Live. 6 00:00:29,468 --> 00:00:29,908 Speaker 3: In New York. 7 00:00:29,908 --> 00:00:32,828 Speaker 4: It's Thursday, Decemmer nineteenth. I'm Jamie at all. This is 8 00:00:32,828 --> 00:00:36,548 Speaker 4: offwar Bosjabi and mellow. Peter Schrager, Kyle Brandt, Guys, how 9 00:00:36,628 --> 00:00:38,148 Speaker 4: is New York doing this time of year? 10 00:00:38,228 --> 00:00:40,388 Speaker 3: So festive, so lovely? How are you guys feeling out 11 00:00:40,388 --> 00:00:42,188 Speaker 3: there cold? What do you think? 12 00:00:42,228 --> 00:00:42,468 Speaker 5: Peter? 13 00:00:42,708 --> 00:00:43,348 Speaker 2: New York's great. 14 00:00:43,388 --> 00:00:45,748 Speaker 6: It's cold, but obviously the holiday season, there's no better 15 00:00:45,788 --> 00:00:48,748 Speaker 6: place to be. The tree lighting ceremony was a couple 16 00:00:48,788 --> 00:00:51,708 Speaker 6: of weeks ago, and now everybody's coming in and enjoying 17 00:00:51,708 --> 00:00:54,268 Speaker 6: a festive time. And Jamie the coolest part about it. 18 00:00:54,268 --> 00:00:56,588 Speaker 6: While everyone's out in the streets and enjoying Christmas in 19 00:00:56,628 --> 00:00:58,708 Speaker 6: New York, we'll be on our couches watching football. 20 00:00:58,708 --> 00:00:59,308 Speaker 2: It's what we do. 21 00:00:59,748 --> 00:01:02,828 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great gift the NFL has given us. 22 00:01:02,828 --> 00:01:07,268 Speaker 4: It's football tonight, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, next Saturday, next Sunday. 23 00:01:07,748 --> 00:01:08,148 Speaker 3: So great. 24 00:01:08,308 --> 00:01:14,428 Speaker 4: It's overdose on football. Been quite this Thursday too, Next Thursday, Peter, 25 00:01:14,508 --> 00:01:16,588 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry and this day so sorry to the 26 00:01:16,588 --> 00:01:17,348 Speaker 4: Prime Video crew. 27 00:01:17,388 --> 00:01:20,028 Speaker 3: We love you. Let's look at us. 28 00:01:20,028 --> 00:01:20,788 Speaker 2: A Milkin. 29 00:01:22,668 --> 00:01:24,068 Speaker 3: Letting me exactly. 30 00:01:24,188 --> 00:01:27,508 Speaker 7: That's the football game we had. Lord's a leaping. 31 00:01:28,268 --> 00:01:30,188 Speaker 3: It's great, Mack said, dancing. 32 00:01:31,428 --> 00:01:32,348 Speaker 2: Yes, here we go. 33 00:01:32,828 --> 00:01:34,468 Speaker 3: It's Thursday. We had Peter. 34 00:01:34,308 --> 00:01:38,068 Speaker 4: Schragger's Trivia earlier and now it's time for throw down Thursday. 35 00:01:38,068 --> 00:01:38,388 Speaker 3: Okay. 36 00:01:38,468 --> 00:01:40,508 Speaker 4: Kyle Brandt once said there was an executive at the 37 00:01:40,628 --> 00:01:43,268 Speaker 4: NFL who was this is their favorite segment on our show, 38 00:01:43,348 --> 00:01:45,828 Speaker 4: the second hour of a Thursday, top of the hour, 39 00:01:46,388 --> 00:01:49,388 Speaker 4: Let's go. It's been quite the season for Aaron Rodgers 40 00:01:49,388 --> 00:01:49,748 Speaker 4: and the Jets. 41 00:01:49,788 --> 00:01:51,228 Speaker 3: I was waiting for a throat on graphic to happen. 42 00:01:51,308 --> 00:01:51,668 Speaker 3: Here we go. 43 00:01:52,188 --> 00:01:54,108 Speaker 4: The Jets were eliminated. There was a lot of me 44 00:01:54,188 --> 00:01:56,908 Speaker 4: on camera. The Jets were eliminated from the playoffs early 45 00:01:57,228 --> 00:01:59,188 Speaker 4: and now stand with a. 46 00:01:59,268 --> 00:02:03,548 Speaker 3: Four and ten record. Rogers who is everywhere right now? 47 00:02:03,668 --> 00:02:06,228 Speaker 4: Especially if you're unloading The Netflix app spoke to the 48 00:02:06,268 --> 00:02:08,588 Speaker 4: media yesterday about his plans for the future and whether 49 00:02:08,708 --> 00:02:10,468 Speaker 4: or not he'd welcome a return. 50 00:02:10,668 --> 00:02:11,348 Speaker 3: To the Medlands. 51 00:02:13,348 --> 00:02:15,748 Speaker 8: I'm going to take take some time after the year 52 00:02:16,628 --> 00:02:19,388 Speaker 8: unless you know you're released right away. But I'll still 53 00:02:19,428 --> 00:02:20,988 Speaker 8: take some time whether or not I want to play. 54 00:02:21,108 --> 00:02:23,068 Speaker 8: There's a lot of reasons why this would be a great, 55 00:02:23,668 --> 00:02:26,428 Speaker 8: great opportunity, but you know, I'm gonna see what happens. 56 00:02:26,748 --> 00:02:28,468 Speaker 8: There's you know, a lot of things yet to happen. 57 00:02:28,468 --> 00:02:31,348 Speaker 8: They got to hire a GM, got to hire a 58 00:02:31,388 --> 00:02:34,028 Speaker 8: head coach, and then you know, whether or not I'm 59 00:02:34,068 --> 00:02:35,788 Speaker 8: part of conversation or whether or not they move on. 60 00:02:36,468 --> 00:02:40,388 Speaker 8: You know, whatever happens, I'll be taking my time and 61 00:02:40,748 --> 00:02:41,708 Speaker 8: thinking about my future. 62 00:02:44,068 --> 00:02:47,348 Speaker 4: It is mind boggling to think that, amongst many other 63 00:02:47,428 --> 00:02:49,868 Speaker 4: decisions the Jets have to make, the quarterback might be 64 00:02:49,988 --> 00:02:52,148 Speaker 4: at the third spot because they have hirings to do 65 00:02:52,308 --> 00:02:54,908 Speaker 4: up top, GM coach and so on and so forth. 66 00:02:54,908 --> 00:02:57,948 Speaker 4: Throw it down Thursday. Is this let's pit the final 67 00:02:57,988 --> 00:03:00,628 Speaker 4: weeks of the NFL season against two quarterbacks, one old 68 00:03:00,668 --> 00:03:04,188 Speaker 4: one yet Aaron Rodgers Michael Pennix Junior. 69 00:03:04,468 --> 00:03:06,068 Speaker 3: We'll start for the Falcons this weekend. 70 00:03:06,268 --> 00:03:09,268 Speaker 4: Who's final weeks of this season? Are you going to 71 00:03:09,308 --> 00:03:12,748 Speaker 4: be watching closer? Peter First Rogers or Michael Pennix Jr. 72 00:03:14,108 --> 00:03:17,108 Speaker 6: I'm going with a rod I am fascinated with how 73 00:03:17,148 --> 00:03:19,108 Speaker 6: this thing plays out. If you had asked me three 74 00:03:19,148 --> 00:03:22,028 Speaker 6: weeks ago, I would say it's likely on I don't 75 00:03:22,028 --> 00:03:24,508 Speaker 6: see a situation where Rogers a would maybe want to 76 00:03:24,588 --> 00:03:26,588 Speaker 6: return and b where the Jets want him back. And 77 00:03:26,588 --> 00:03:29,508 Speaker 6: then the last two weeks Rogers has played fantastic football. 78 00:03:29,788 --> 00:03:32,548 Speaker 6: He's getting healthier. And suddenly you look at this and 79 00:03:32,548 --> 00:03:34,348 Speaker 6: you're like, well, what's the alternative. We're not going to 80 00:03:34,388 --> 00:03:36,268 Speaker 6: get one of the top picks in the draft, so 81 00:03:36,268 --> 00:03:39,468 Speaker 6: it's not Shador Sanders a cam Ward. You're then looking 82 00:03:39,468 --> 00:03:41,948 Speaker 6: at like, all right, we could still draft a quarterback, 83 00:03:42,028 --> 00:03:44,828 Speaker 6: but maybe we keep Rogers around. He's already going to 84 00:03:44,908 --> 00:03:46,748 Speaker 6: be on the payroll. And then you look at how 85 00:03:46,828 --> 00:03:47,828 Speaker 6: DeVonta Adams. 86 00:03:47,508 --> 00:03:50,148 Speaker 2: Has played, and these guys feel like they're just getting 87 00:03:50,188 --> 00:03:50,628 Speaker 2: it going. 88 00:03:51,108 --> 00:03:54,348 Speaker 6: Could you roll back Rogers and Adams for next year? 89 00:03:54,788 --> 00:03:55,028 Speaker 5: Yeah? 90 00:03:55,108 --> 00:03:55,468 Speaker 3: You can. 91 00:03:56,228 --> 00:03:56,588 Speaker 2: You can. 92 00:03:57,068 --> 00:03:59,828 Speaker 6: Now, all of this is conjuncture because to Aaron's point, 93 00:04:00,428 --> 00:04:02,268 Speaker 6: they don't have a GM and they don't have a 94 00:04:02,268 --> 00:04:03,868 Speaker 6: head coach, and those. 95 00:04:03,628 --> 00:04:06,068 Speaker 2: Guys should be the one making the decision. That should 96 00:04:06,108 --> 00:04:08,708 Speaker 2: not be a Woody Johnson decision. Woody Johnson should not 97 00:04:08,748 --> 00:04:09,828 Speaker 2: be sitting in. 98 00:04:09,828 --> 00:04:13,228 Speaker 6: His office in Florence park Or in West Palm where he. 99 00:04:13,228 --> 00:04:15,068 Speaker 2: Is now, and like he should not be. 100 00:04:15,068 --> 00:04:17,308 Speaker 6: The one saying Rogers is back and we're gonna pay 101 00:04:17,308 --> 00:04:19,388 Speaker 6: Garrett Wilson, We're gonna pay. They have to get the 102 00:04:19,428 --> 00:04:21,668 Speaker 6: GM situation right, They have to get the coach right, 103 00:04:21,708 --> 00:04:23,668 Speaker 6: and then those guys have to talk and they have 104 00:04:23,708 --> 00:04:26,628 Speaker 6: to decide whether or not they want Rodgers back. The 105 00:04:26,668 --> 00:04:28,988 Speaker 6: final three weeks, Rogers can put it on tape. He 106 00:04:29,028 --> 00:04:30,908 Speaker 6: has an opportunity to make the case and say, you 107 00:04:30,908 --> 00:04:33,748 Speaker 6: know what, don't get rid of me just yet. I 108 00:04:33,788 --> 00:04:36,508 Speaker 6: still got something to give and maybe, just maybe I 109 00:04:36,548 --> 00:04:37,588 Speaker 6: wasn't healthy until. 110 00:04:37,388 --> 00:04:40,668 Speaker 2: This point in the season. Yeah, I think you know 111 00:04:40,788 --> 00:04:41,388 Speaker 2: his health. 112 00:04:41,548 --> 00:04:44,468 Speaker 9: You know, this this nice spike that we're seeing out 113 00:04:44,508 --> 00:04:47,428 Speaker 9: of Aaron Rodgers. Michael Pennix on the other side, Peter, 114 00:04:47,868 --> 00:04:50,428 Speaker 9: you know, you look at the young star getting his opportunity. 115 00:04:50,428 --> 00:04:52,748 Speaker 9: But I agree with you. I think it is I 116 00:04:52,748 --> 00:04:54,948 Speaker 9: think it has to be Aaron Rodgers. And for me, 117 00:04:55,148 --> 00:04:57,348 Speaker 9: I think it has a lot to do with the 118 00:04:57,388 --> 00:04:59,028 Speaker 9: fact that could this be it? 119 00:04:59,668 --> 00:05:00,868 Speaker 2: You know, Like for. 120 00:05:01,068 --> 00:05:04,668 Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers, I've been watching his documentary and you know, 121 00:05:04,908 --> 00:05:08,668 Speaker 9: he's a very interesting person and I'm getting to learn 122 00:05:08,788 --> 00:05:12,388 Speaker 9: a lot about Aaron Rodgers off the field and just 123 00:05:12,428 --> 00:05:14,708 Speaker 9: to kind of the way his mind works. And but 124 00:05:14,828 --> 00:05:17,588 Speaker 9: one of the things that I found fascinating was, you know, 125 00:05:17,788 --> 00:05:21,588 Speaker 9: his processing returning and his workout and his mobility and 126 00:05:21,628 --> 00:05:25,148 Speaker 9: his admission to his age and you know, feeling it 127 00:05:25,348 --> 00:05:27,748 Speaker 9: and all of that, and you know, you know, in 128 00:05:27,788 --> 00:05:31,708 Speaker 9: the third third episode he kind of moves to it. 129 00:05:31,668 --> 00:05:33,548 Speaker 3: A little bit. Maybe this is it. 130 00:05:33,628 --> 00:05:35,668 Speaker 9: And if that's the case, then I'm watching to see 131 00:05:35,708 --> 00:05:38,428 Speaker 9: how this ends. Because no matter how you feel about 132 00:05:38,468 --> 00:05:41,708 Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers, what a career he's had, and I'd like 133 00:05:41,788 --> 00:05:43,148 Speaker 9: to see those type of things. I'm one of those 134 00:05:43,228 --> 00:05:46,588 Speaker 9: dudes who like to see history and I appreciated it, 135 00:05:47,628 --> 00:05:50,428 Speaker 9: you know, And maybe he gets the bug bug, the 136 00:05:50,428 --> 00:05:53,628 Speaker 9: bug of greatness where you're so intoxicated by greatness you 137 00:05:53,668 --> 00:05:55,428 Speaker 9: try to see if you can do it again because 138 00:05:55,588 --> 00:05:57,708 Speaker 9: you think that you're still the person you work twenty 139 00:05:57,748 --> 00:06:00,148 Speaker 9: years ago. But I'm gonna go Aaron Rodgers in this one. 140 00:06:00,308 --> 00:06:02,268 Speaker 9: He's the one that I'd definitely be watching. 141 00:06:04,428 --> 00:06:07,508 Speaker 7: Give me Pennix, let's go baby, let lock and Low. 142 00:06:07,588 --> 00:06:10,788 Speaker 7: Give me this nice lefty rookie lighting things up. I've 143 00:06:10,828 --> 00:06:13,828 Speaker 7: seen a lot of Aaron Rodgers play football, not only 144 00:06:13,868 --> 00:06:16,668 Speaker 7: this year. I've been watching Aaron Rodgers for twenty seasons. 145 00:06:16,708 --> 00:06:18,748 Speaker 7: I love it. It's been some of the greatest football 146 00:06:18,748 --> 00:06:21,188 Speaker 7: memories as a spectator I have. I think I'm good. 147 00:06:21,228 --> 00:06:23,308 Speaker 7: I have a full tank of Aaron Rodgers. I want 148 00:06:23,308 --> 00:06:27,268 Speaker 7: a fresh Michael Pennix. Who is this only rookie who's 149 00:06:27,308 --> 00:06:29,628 Speaker 7: been sitting around, waiting, waiting, waiting. Now he's going to 150 00:06:29,668 --> 00:06:31,908 Speaker 7: get put in the game. Maybe he's fantastic, Maybe he 151 00:06:31,948 --> 00:06:34,468 Speaker 7: completely lights it up. He just looks so cool with 152 00:06:34,508 --> 00:06:37,668 Speaker 7: the lefty delivery in the dome, And honestly, I think 153 00:06:37,708 --> 00:06:40,108 Speaker 7: it's kind of I like that Costco story. I think 154 00:06:40,108 --> 00:06:42,468 Speaker 7: there's something humbling about that. The fact that he was 155 00:06:42,508 --> 00:06:44,748 Speaker 7: there with his lady friend and they're getting dollar fifty 156 00:06:44,748 --> 00:06:45,388 Speaker 7: hot dogs. 157 00:06:45,548 --> 00:06:46,108 Speaker 2: It's great. 158 00:06:46,148 --> 00:06:47,748 Speaker 7: And if he blows up this year, he'll have some 159 00:06:47,748 --> 00:06:50,548 Speaker 7: sort of Costco endorsement. He'll become the face of Costco 160 00:06:50,628 --> 00:06:53,908 Speaker 7: and he'll be the Costco quarterback. And that's relatable. I 161 00:06:53,948 --> 00:06:55,948 Speaker 7: think Jamie said it perfectly. The fact that that guy 162 00:06:56,028 --> 00:06:57,668 Speaker 7: is there in the third week in December, on a 163 00:06:57,708 --> 00:06:59,988 Speaker 7: weekday in the evening, that is nuts. 164 00:07:00,228 --> 00:07:02,148 Speaker 2: That is an all out engage. 165 00:07:02,188 --> 00:07:05,228 Speaker 7: Eight blitz like he can stand up to pressure the 166 00:07:05,308 --> 00:07:07,668 Speaker 7: lines alone. You have to pay with the debit card. 167 00:07:07,708 --> 00:07:10,348 Speaker 7: You have that giant palette thing. It's hell on Earth 168 00:07:10,428 --> 00:07:11,548 Speaker 7: walking in there right now. 169 00:07:11,668 --> 00:07:12,268 Speaker 3: And he did it. 170 00:07:12,308 --> 00:07:14,308 Speaker 7: No big deal, I am. I know what we're going 171 00:07:14,348 --> 00:07:16,308 Speaker 7: to see from Rogers. I think at this point, I 172 00:07:16,348 --> 00:07:17,948 Speaker 7: have no idea we're gona get from Penix, but I'm 173 00:07:17,948 --> 00:07:20,228 Speaker 7: excited about it. It's like, let's make a deal. Give 174 00:07:20,268 --> 00:07:22,508 Speaker 7: me curtain number three. I've seen the first two curtains 175 00:07:22,508 --> 00:07:23,268 Speaker 7: a million times. 176 00:07:24,108 --> 00:07:26,948 Speaker 6: Making admission Jamie, Yeah, I want to make it an admission. 177 00:07:27,908 --> 00:07:31,068 Speaker 6: I've loved in New York City for twenty years. Yes, 178 00:07:31,308 --> 00:07:34,468 Speaker 6: I grew up in the Jersey Shore. We had Sam's 179 00:07:34,508 --> 00:07:36,948 Speaker 6: and BJ. I have never been in a costco before, 180 00:07:37,108 --> 00:07:39,108 Speaker 6: is that right? I have never been in a costco before. 181 00:07:39,188 --> 00:07:41,868 Speaker 6: I have never stepped foot in the costco. I have 182 00:07:41,988 --> 00:07:44,628 Speaker 6: never shopped at that store. I've shopped at big box stores, 183 00:07:44,628 --> 00:07:46,668 Speaker 6: but I have never been to a costco. So Michael 184 00:07:46,668 --> 00:07:49,588 Speaker 6: Pennock saying that I'm fascinated and I might want to 185 00:07:49,628 --> 00:07:53,668 Speaker 6: go visit one and try one of Oh wow. 186 00:07:53,748 --> 00:07:55,228 Speaker 7: What do you do when you need six years with 187 00:07:55,348 --> 00:07:56,108 Speaker 7: the trash bags? 188 00:07:56,228 --> 00:07:57,388 Speaker 3: You go to one of the other ones to. 189 00:07:57,428 --> 00:07:57,868 Speaker 2: Go to the book. 190 00:07:59,428 --> 00:08:01,468 Speaker 7: This time of year, you can get you can get. 191 00:08:01,508 --> 00:08:04,348 Speaker 7: You can literally get a baby crib at a Costco. 192 00:08:04,548 --> 00:08:06,868 Speaker 7: You can get a coffin at a Costco. So from 193 00:08:06,988 --> 00:08:10,228 Speaker 7: life Walk to death they sell coffins because if you 194 00:08:10,228 --> 00:08:11,668 Speaker 7: need a coffin, you might as well. 195 00:08:11,588 --> 00:08:12,748 Speaker 2: Get a deal they want. 196 00:08:13,188 --> 00:08:14,948 Speaker 9: Hey, Peter, I don't know if you like to snack, 197 00:08:14,988 --> 00:08:17,388 Speaker 9: but they have great samples. You can sample just about 198 00:08:17,388 --> 00:08:19,588 Speaker 9: anything at Costco. You gotta go, majic. 199 00:08:19,788 --> 00:08:21,508 Speaker 2: Okay, the samples a lot, I gotta go. 200 00:08:21,788 --> 00:08:25,188 Speaker 4: We give a lot of editorial suggestions NFL plus Schrager 201 00:08:25,228 --> 00:08:27,308 Speaker 4: and a Costco. I mean there's another one like we 202 00:08:27,668 --> 00:08:29,548 Speaker 4: just keep giving these free ideas. 203 00:08:29,628 --> 00:08:32,948 Speaker 3: And also, Michael Pennick shere is a young guy. I'm 204 00:08:32,988 --> 00:08:34,748 Speaker 3: not sure if he has any kids yet. 205 00:08:35,068 --> 00:08:37,388 Speaker 4: But if you don't and you're there with your gold, 206 00:08:37,628 --> 00:08:40,988 Speaker 4: why are you at a Costco six days before Christmas? 207 00:08:40,988 --> 00:08:44,068 Speaker 4: What do you need a mass quantity of? It's stressing 208 00:08:44,148 --> 00:08:47,228 Speaker 4: us all out. The fact that this young quarterback for 209 00:08:47,228 --> 00:08:49,548 Speaker 4: the Atlanta Falcons just of milling around with a hot 210 00:08:49,548 --> 00:08:51,708 Speaker 4: dog and a paper sleeve at a Costco. Why we've 211 00:08:51,708 --> 00:08:53,348 Speaker 4: got deaf on the show to ask me these questions. 212 00:08:53,948 --> 00:08:55,308 Speaker 3: Okay with Michael Penky. 213 00:08:55,388 --> 00:08:56,588 Speaker 2: Now one more thing on Costco. 214 00:08:56,628 --> 00:08:59,548 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It was a great elucid point 215 00:08:59,588 --> 00:09:02,228 Speaker 7: you just made, Peter. How did you not go to 216 00:09:02,348 --> 00:09:05,108 Speaker 7: Costco during the AJ and Big Justice this boom when 217 00:09:05,108 --> 00:09:07,068 Speaker 7: they once that was like going to Graceland at that 218 00:09:07,068 --> 00:09:09,148 Speaker 7: point for New Jersey, it's like now where they were 219 00:09:09,188 --> 00:09:09,908 Speaker 7: bringing the boom? 220 00:09:09,988 --> 00:09:11,068 Speaker 2: How did you survive it? 221 00:09:11,388 --> 00:09:13,548 Speaker 6: I saw I saw the NFL's using them for the 222 00:09:13,588 --> 00:09:14,348 Speaker 6: Netflix promo. 223 00:09:14,348 --> 00:09:17,188 Speaker 2: Okay, like they're flying a little close to the sun 224 00:09:17,268 --> 00:09:18,868 Speaker 2: right now. They were charming at first. I think I 225 00:09:18,948 --> 00:09:20,588 Speaker 2: might be out on a J and Big John. I 226 00:09:20,668 --> 00:09:24,628 Speaker 2: did a lot of a lot of people. Those your guys, 227 00:09:24,628 --> 00:09:26,548 Speaker 2: it was shoot when they were like small time. Now 228 00:09:26,548 --> 00:09:28,788 Speaker 2: they might be too big time. Don't worry that Bobby 229 00:09:28,828 --> 00:09:29,948 Speaker 2: Alcohol what's her name? 230 00:09:30,028 --> 00:09:32,668 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, oh no, don't now. 231 00:09:32,508 --> 00:09:34,708 Speaker 2: She's now she's a big star. And it's like, all right, 232 00:09:34,868 --> 00:09:38,508 Speaker 2: what about the Rizzler? I'd be out him. 233 00:09:39,908 --> 00:09:41,708 Speaker 4: Now that our phones are always listening to us, your 234 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:42,628 Speaker 4: Instagram is just going to. 235 00:09:42,628 --> 00:09:43,788 Speaker 3: Be Kirkland hacks. 236 00:09:43,828 --> 00:09:47,108 Speaker 4: Just why it's gonna be all the videos Michael Pennix. 237 00:09:47,268 --> 00:09:47,908 Speaker 2: Kirkland jelly. 238 00:09:49,468 --> 00:09:51,828 Speaker 3: So you know that kirk ran belly. 239 00:09:51,908 --> 00:09:54,028 Speaker 2: Yeah, big old box with a black jar. 240 00:09:54,148 --> 00:09:54,668 Speaker 3: Kirkland. 241 00:09:55,228 --> 00:09:57,028 Speaker 9: Don't forget about the peanut butter pretzel too. 242 00:09:57,188 --> 00:09:58,228 Speaker 3: Oh those are real good. 243 00:09:58,508 --> 00:09:59,428 Speaker 2: Oh I hit those. 244 00:09:59,988 --> 00:10:02,508 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Kirkland, that's my flavor town. 245 00:10:02,668 --> 00:10:03,308 Speaker 3: That's great. 246 00:10:05,228 --> 00:10:07,348 Speaker 4: I just want Shregs rolling around on one of those 247 00:10:07,388 --> 00:10:10,108 Speaker 4: palettes when Kyle's pushing look at that. 248 00:10:10,188 --> 00:10:12,188 Speaker 3: Look at that. I'm telling you, NFL plus, here we go. 249 00:10:12,388 --> 00:10:15,068 Speaker 4: Michael Penis Junior said, to face the giants this weekend, 250 00:10:15,788 --> 00:10:19,468 Speaker 4: our throwdown, our second throat on question becomes this who 251 00:10:19,508 --> 00:10:21,828 Speaker 4: has had the bigger impact on the music industry? 252 00:10:22,428 --> 00:10:27,428 Speaker 3: New York City or Atlanta? O. 253 00:10:28,508 --> 00:10:30,188 Speaker 2: I like that we used the Ramones photo. 254 00:10:30,388 --> 00:10:30,868 Speaker 3: That's good. 255 00:10:31,028 --> 00:10:34,028 Speaker 2: I like that. That's deep cut, that's Nas and Ramones. 256 00:10:34,868 --> 00:10:36,868 Speaker 6: You know, obviously I'm a New Yorker, but I did 257 00:10:36,948 --> 00:10:39,228 Speaker 6: spend many years in my life in Atlanta. I went 258 00:10:39,268 --> 00:10:40,868 Speaker 6: to college in Atlanta, and I was there at the 259 00:10:40,908 --> 00:10:44,028 Speaker 6: boom when like Outcast and Ludacris and Usher, We're all 260 00:10:44,068 --> 00:10:45,908 Speaker 6: coming out in the early two thousands and so so 261 00:10:46,028 --> 00:10:48,748 Speaker 6: deaf was everything. But I gotta go with New York 262 00:10:48,828 --> 00:10:53,228 Speaker 6: because of the wide breadth of different types of musical 263 00:10:53,228 --> 00:10:55,988 Speaker 6: talent that we've seen over the years, Billy Joel, because 264 00:10:55,988 --> 00:10:57,228 Speaker 6: Billy Joel's like the voice. 265 00:10:56,988 --> 00:10:59,628 Speaker 2: Of Long Island and Oyster Bay, and that counts as 266 00:10:59,748 --> 00:11:00,588 Speaker 2: New York. It does. 267 00:11:00,668 --> 00:11:03,548 Speaker 6: So you go from Billy Joel, which is awesome, and 268 00:11:03,588 --> 00:11:05,748 Speaker 6: then you can all say, Okay, we got the piano man, 269 00:11:05,828 --> 00:11:08,988 Speaker 6: the entertainer and all this stuff. But also representing New 270 00:11:09,028 --> 00:11:11,988 Speaker 6: York could be my man fifty cent Curtis Jackson. 271 00:11:12,108 --> 00:11:13,028 Speaker 2: We get him as well. 272 00:11:13,068 --> 00:11:16,268 Speaker 6: So fifty cent and Billy Joel are two very different. 273 00:11:15,988 --> 00:11:17,428 Speaker 2: Types of artists. But you've got that. 274 00:11:18,028 --> 00:11:21,228 Speaker 6: But then you've got like early two thousand's rock scene 275 00:11:21,268 --> 00:11:22,988 Speaker 6: that like meet me in the back, you know, in 276 00:11:23,028 --> 00:11:24,868 Speaker 6: the back, come through the bath, their window, whatever it is, 277 00:11:24,908 --> 00:11:27,948 Speaker 6: the Strokes, like that whole scene, the yeah yeah yeahs 278 00:11:27,948 --> 00:11:31,268 Speaker 6: and the Strokes and LCD sound system, like all those guys. 279 00:11:31,308 --> 00:11:32,148 Speaker 2: Those guys are there. 280 00:11:32,468 --> 00:11:35,348 Speaker 6: Then you go deep cut and it's like Simon and 281 00:11:35,348 --> 00:11:40,708 Speaker 6: Garfunkel are from New York, right, how about Stephen Sondheim. 282 00:11:41,668 --> 00:11:44,988 Speaker 10: Sohnheim rock people about every Broadway score that Andrew Lloyd 283 00:11:45,028 --> 00:11:48,068 Speaker 10: Webber didn't all right, So you go with Simon and 284 00:11:48,068 --> 00:11:51,588 Speaker 10: Garfunkel to Stephen Sondheim and then i end look at Sonheim, 285 00:11:52,188 --> 00:11:53,148 Speaker 10: James Bond. 286 00:11:52,948 --> 00:11:54,948 Speaker 2: Only football show ever to show Sondheim. 287 00:11:56,388 --> 00:11:58,268 Speaker 6: And then we end it with the guys from Shao 288 00:11:58,388 --> 00:12:01,348 Speaker 6: Lyin and you end it with Staten Island's own Wu 289 00:12:01,428 --> 00:12:04,748 Speaker 6: Tang Clan and they also so like from Sonda time 290 00:12:05,388 --> 00:12:06,308 Speaker 6: to Shout Lynn. 291 00:12:07,468 --> 00:12:10,028 Speaker 2: It's an old dirty mastered and method Man and the 292 00:12:10,068 --> 00:12:11,428 Speaker 2: whole crew Hello. 293 00:12:11,308 --> 00:12:14,068 Speaker 6: Ghosts face Like, I think that's my case. 294 00:12:14,108 --> 00:12:15,548 Speaker 2: The pictures tell the story. 295 00:12:15,788 --> 00:12:19,388 Speaker 6: We go through decades and decades of different genres. 296 00:12:19,468 --> 00:12:22,348 Speaker 2: New York has not only the top end quality but 297 00:12:22,388 --> 00:12:23,268 Speaker 2: also the bench. 298 00:12:23,388 --> 00:12:25,308 Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go at the depth on that New 299 00:12:25,348 --> 00:12:26,588 Speaker 6: York wins from my pie. 300 00:12:26,748 --> 00:12:29,108 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm tagging team. I'm tag team in on that one. 301 00:12:29,188 --> 00:12:29,588 Speaker 3: New York. 302 00:12:29,948 --> 00:12:33,508 Speaker 9: It's the birthplace, right. You think about the Harlem Renaissance, 303 00:12:33,548 --> 00:12:36,908 Speaker 9: you think about Cold Training, you think about Billie Holiday, 304 00:12:36,988 --> 00:12:39,188 Speaker 9: you think about even Bebop two, all of that, I 305 00:12:39,188 --> 00:12:42,108 Speaker 9: mean originated from New York. But then when you get 306 00:12:42,108 --> 00:12:44,708 Speaker 9: into the hip hop era in the seventies, come on, 307 00:12:44,908 --> 00:12:48,068 Speaker 9: grand Master Flash. I mean that's where you know he's 308 00:12:48,148 --> 00:12:51,668 Speaker 9: considered the grandfather the like of hip hop and kind 309 00:12:51,668 --> 00:12:55,108 Speaker 9: of that maturation when you go into Biggie and what 310 00:12:55,148 --> 00:12:58,468 Speaker 9: Biggie did for for New York. So many cool nas 311 00:12:58,668 --> 00:13:00,548 Speaker 9: we could go with. The list goes on and on, 312 00:13:00,788 --> 00:13:04,348 Speaker 9: and no shade to Atlanta because Atlanta they had their time. 313 00:13:04,588 --> 00:13:07,388 Speaker 9: Atlanta definitely had the time. Like you talked about out Cast, 314 00:13:07,508 --> 00:13:11,788 Speaker 9: Ti Usher, those guys, I mean, you talk about, you know, 315 00:13:11,948 --> 00:13:15,388 Speaker 9: Southern rap, you talk about crunk music, they put it. 316 00:13:15,588 --> 00:13:17,748 Speaker 2: They put Southern music on the map. 317 00:13:17,868 --> 00:13:19,428 Speaker 9: I kind of want to think about it, even in 318 00:13:19,428 --> 00:13:21,228 Speaker 9: the hip hop R and B gang. I think about 319 00:13:21,228 --> 00:13:25,268 Speaker 9: it kind of like the Celtics. The Celtics were the dynasty, right, 320 00:13:25,268 --> 00:13:27,388 Speaker 9: and that's what New York is. They're the dynasty. They're 321 00:13:27,428 --> 00:13:29,988 Speaker 9: like the Celtics. And then you think about that one 322 00:13:30,068 --> 00:13:32,748 Speaker 9: little blip of time when the Houston Rockets had their 323 00:13:33,348 --> 00:13:36,308 Speaker 9: their moment in the nineties, that's what Atlanta was. So 324 00:13:36,348 --> 00:13:38,788 Speaker 9: they had their moment, their little blip, and then it's 325 00:13:38,828 --> 00:13:40,268 Speaker 9: been it's been New York ever since. 326 00:13:41,628 --> 00:13:42,788 Speaker 2: All right two for New York. 327 00:13:42,908 --> 00:13:45,108 Speaker 7: So this is why I was put on this planet 328 00:13:45,188 --> 00:13:47,988 Speaker 7: to be the face and voice of Atlanta music. Look 329 00:13:48,068 --> 00:13:52,828 Speaker 7: Southern hip hop, and I'll here listen, I understand the 330 00:13:52,828 --> 00:13:54,948 Speaker 7: South got something to say. I understand that completely, and 331 00:13:54,988 --> 00:13:56,668 Speaker 7: I love that moment, and we've had Big Boy on 332 00:13:56,708 --> 00:13:59,068 Speaker 7: the show and all over the years. I have to focus. 333 00:13:59,108 --> 00:14:02,228 Speaker 7: I have to stay legitimate to myself. When I was 334 00:14:02,228 --> 00:14:04,308 Speaker 7: turning twelve years old, I had a birthday party and 335 00:14:04,548 --> 00:14:05,828 Speaker 7: your parents say, what do you want to do for 336 00:14:05,828 --> 00:14:07,308 Speaker 7: your berth You want to go to the roller rink, 337 00:14:07,388 --> 00:14:09,828 Speaker 7: you want to go bowling and all that, and the 338 00:14:09,868 --> 00:14:12,868 Speaker 7: invitation went out, and the invitation was to party at 339 00:14:12,868 --> 00:14:17,428 Speaker 7: our house in the backyard. And it encouraged all the attendees, 340 00:14:17,508 --> 00:14:20,588 Speaker 7: all the other sixth grade boys to show up with 341 00:14:20,668 --> 00:14:24,628 Speaker 7: their blue jeans on backwards, because at the time, they said, 342 00:14:24,628 --> 00:14:26,228 Speaker 7: making making and making a minute Mac doesn't making it 343 00:14:26,268 --> 00:14:30,268 Speaker 7: making it and making a making of a Mac. Chris bleeping' cross, Peter, 344 00:14:30,668 --> 00:14:32,948 Speaker 7: you show me Billy Joe his jeans on backwards, then 345 00:14:32,948 --> 00:14:33,548 Speaker 7: we'll have something. 346 00:14:33,948 --> 00:14:33,988 Speaker 11: Go. 347 00:14:34,068 --> 00:14:37,188 Speaker 7: Don't see our garfunkle dressing up like that. Us cull 348 00:14:37,268 --> 00:14:41,948 Speaker 7: Us mac Daddy Kelly and Chris Daddy mac Smith. And 349 00:14:42,028 --> 00:14:43,468 Speaker 7: it was so cool if you were a kid at 350 00:14:43,468 --> 00:14:45,788 Speaker 7: the time, because they were also kids and they're out 351 00:14:45,828 --> 00:14:47,508 Speaker 7: there blowing it up. They had a music video where 352 00:14:47,508 --> 00:14:49,108 Speaker 7: they're driving a car they weren't even old enough to 353 00:14:49,188 --> 00:14:51,268 Speaker 7: drive and it was just you didn't even understand what 354 00:14:51,308 --> 00:14:53,348 Speaker 7: they were saying. Then making a mag it was just awesome. 355 00:14:53,428 --> 00:14:55,228 Speaker 7: It was so cool, and they would play it at parties. 356 00:14:55,268 --> 00:14:57,348 Speaker 6: They have something called like miss the bus, missed the 357 00:14:57,428 --> 00:14:58,188 Speaker 6: bus awesome. 358 00:14:58,228 --> 00:15:00,508 Speaker 2: Warm it up, Chris, I'm a bab up shoo. That's 359 00:15:00,508 --> 00:15:02,108 Speaker 2: what I was born too. 360 00:15:02,788 --> 00:15:04,828 Speaker 7: We used to show up to school with our jeans 361 00:15:04,828 --> 00:15:07,828 Speaker 7: on backwards, and it was so cool. It's ridiculous because 362 00:15:07,908 --> 00:15:09,988 Speaker 7: the fly and the buttoner in the back and it 363 00:15:10,028 --> 00:15:12,628 Speaker 7: doesn't work, and you can't if you have to go, doesn't. 364 00:15:12,388 --> 00:15:14,668 Speaker 2: Work and your pants come down. But for the hot, 365 00:15:14,868 --> 00:15:16,068 Speaker 2: hot minute, you turn. 366 00:15:15,948 --> 00:15:18,028 Speaker 7: Around your starter and you'd have like a Florida Marlin 367 00:15:18,148 --> 00:15:20,548 Speaker 7: starter or San Jose Sharks or Shore of the Hornets 368 00:15:20,588 --> 00:15:21,468 Speaker 7: Charlotte Hornets with. 369 00:15:21,468 --> 00:15:22,308 Speaker 2: Your jeans on backs. 370 00:15:22,388 --> 00:15:24,788 Speaker 7: I had a whole birthday party where like you basically 371 00:15:24,788 --> 00:15:26,828 Speaker 7: weren't allowed in unless your jeans were back for it, 372 00:15:27,068 --> 00:15:29,028 Speaker 7: and no one even tried to make them forward. It 373 00:15:29,148 --> 00:15:33,508 Speaker 7: was awesome. That was a hugely influential there. Atlanta, Chris Cross, Atlanta. 374 00:15:33,628 --> 00:15:37,868 Speaker 7: Jermaine Dupree, producer of It, Chris Cross. I love those guys. 375 00:15:37,948 --> 00:15:39,868 Speaker 2: I know they're no longer with us one of them. 376 00:15:39,908 --> 00:15:40,188 Speaker 3: I believe. 377 00:15:40,188 --> 00:15:42,188 Speaker 7: I don't want to disrespect them of you, but just 378 00:15:42,228 --> 00:15:43,988 Speaker 7: I just love I love everything they stand for. 379 00:15:44,388 --> 00:15:45,828 Speaker 9: You know what, I gotta get you props on that 380 00:15:45,828 --> 00:15:48,868 Speaker 9: one man. First off, in that era, I didn't even realize, 381 00:15:48,908 --> 00:15:50,828 Speaker 9: like there wasn't a regional thing. I didn't even realize 382 00:15:50,828 --> 00:15:52,668 Speaker 9: they were from Atlanta, and that was a big one. 383 00:15:52,708 --> 00:15:54,188 Speaker 9: We all grew up to that one in that era. 384 00:15:54,348 --> 00:15:56,748 Speaker 9: So sometimes to dye, but they can't rhyme like this. Still, 385 00:15:57,268 --> 00:15:57,668 Speaker 9: that was good. 386 00:15:58,748 --> 00:16:01,708 Speaker 7: The Sprite commercial Banger, the mac Dad will make it, 387 00:16:01,748 --> 00:16:03,588 Speaker 7: the Daddy Matt, they'll both make you jump. 388 00:16:05,188 --> 00:16:07,228 Speaker 4: Kyle, your parents are just appreciative that you didn't want 389 00:16:07,228 --> 00:16:08,908 Speaker 4: to have that party in a bowling alley, because that's 390 00:16:08,908 --> 00:16:11,228 Speaker 4: a free birthday right there. Show up to our backyard 391 00:16:11,228 --> 00:16:13,388 Speaker 4: with your pants on backwards. 392 00:16:12,748 --> 00:16:15,308 Speaker 3: So free it it's great. 393 00:16:15,348 --> 00:16:17,948 Speaker 7: And you know all My last thing on Criss Cross. 394 00:16:18,308 --> 00:16:20,188 Speaker 7: There was a video game for Criss Cross. I think 395 00:16:20,228 --> 00:16:23,948 Speaker 7: it was like for the Sega CD. Looked at it's 396 00:16:23,948 --> 00:16:25,188 Speaker 7: one of the worst video games ever. 397 00:16:25,548 --> 00:16:26,468 Speaker 2: Fine, it's fine. 398 00:16:26,548 --> 00:16:28,108 Speaker 7: I hope they just got to check forward or something 399 00:16:28,148 --> 00:16:31,668 Speaker 7: like that. But it was a wildly terrible video that's 400 00:16:31,708 --> 00:16:33,228 Speaker 7: just a little Coda. 401 00:16:33,828 --> 00:16:35,428 Speaker 2: It was called Crisscross Extreme. 402 00:16:35,468 --> 00:16:36,908 Speaker 7: I don't know what we probably got to get out. 403 00:16:37,028 --> 00:16:41,228 Speaker 4: I love Criss Cross, Ian Rappaport, welcome into GMFB respectfully, 404 00:16:41,708 --> 00:16:45,268 Speaker 4: respectfully when I say, I don't really care about Patrick 405 00:16:45,268 --> 00:16:47,348 Speaker 4: Mahomes or t J. Watt right now, I just need 406 00:16:47,388 --> 00:16:49,868 Speaker 4: to know your answer to Atlanta or New York City 407 00:16:49,948 --> 00:16:50,628 Speaker 4: music scene. 408 00:16:52,028 --> 00:16:53,068 Speaker 2: Wow, I have so many thoughts. 409 00:16:53,148 --> 00:16:55,988 Speaker 12: First of all, the Crisscross reference is a good one, 410 00:16:55,988 --> 00:16:58,268 Speaker 12: discovered by the way by Jermaine dupri really one of 411 00:16:58,308 --> 00:17:00,068 Speaker 12: the all time hip hop grades. One of the reasons 412 00:17:00,068 --> 00:17:03,428 Speaker 12: why the Atlanta rap scene is basically what it is. 413 00:17:03,468 --> 00:17:07,188 Speaker 12: I mean, it's I think everyone has been where Kyle was, 414 00:17:07,348 --> 00:17:10,468 Speaker 12: which is you go to a party or whatever. For us, 415 00:17:10,508 --> 00:17:12,468 Speaker 12: it was you go to a social at Camp. Greylock 416 00:17:12,548 --> 00:17:16,268 Speaker 12: and Josh Glass and Greg Dodell were dressed as Criss Cross, 417 00:17:16,268 --> 00:17:17,988 Speaker 12: and all the girls thought it was really really cool 418 00:17:18,028 --> 00:17:20,588 Speaker 12: because they had their genes on backwards, they had their 419 00:17:20,708 --> 00:17:23,668 Speaker 12: jerseys on backwards, the whole it was a whole thing. 420 00:17:23,748 --> 00:17:26,428 Speaker 12: I used to love Crisscross, Mad Respect for Atlanta and 421 00:17:26,788 --> 00:17:28,988 Speaker 12: Welcome to Atlanta remix is one of my favorite hip 422 00:17:28,988 --> 00:17:29,948 Speaker 12: hop songs of all time. 423 00:17:29,988 --> 00:17:31,108 Speaker 2: Definitely in the top ten. 424 00:17:31,628 --> 00:17:34,628 Speaker 12: That said, I want to call back to a segment previous, 425 00:17:35,188 --> 00:17:37,788 Speaker 12: our good friend Peter Schrager was talking about Michael Pennix 426 00:17:38,588 --> 00:17:42,788 Speaker 12: and he was explaining Michael Pennix and the role he 427 00:17:42,828 --> 00:17:46,708 Speaker 12: steps into, and he says, Michael Pennix, the world is 428 00:17:46,748 --> 00:17:50,508 Speaker 12: yours and that really struck me to the core because 429 00:17:50,548 --> 00:17:54,508 Speaker 12: I talk about River Bett was everything right now is 430 00:17:54,748 --> 00:17:58,508 Speaker 12: open for him. And the fact that Schreeger mentioned it 431 00:17:58,628 --> 00:18:00,348 Speaker 12: just casually dropping the name of one of the best 432 00:18:00,428 --> 00:18:02,308 Speaker 12: NOS songs of all time off the greatest hip Hop 433 00:18:02,308 --> 00:18:04,268 Speaker 12: one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time, Illmatic, 434 00:18:04,828 --> 00:18:07,508 Speaker 12: just goes to show you how much New York rap 435 00:18:07,588 --> 00:18:11,548 Speaker 12: has permeated our culture, football or otherwise, like he just 436 00:18:11,628 --> 00:18:14,388 Speaker 12: said it without even thinking of the fact that the 437 00:18:14,428 --> 00:18:16,748 Speaker 12: influence was Nasu. By the way, I saw on concert 438 00:18:16,788 --> 00:18:18,388 Speaker 12: with Wu Tang a couple of months ago, blew the 439 00:18:18,428 --> 00:18:20,108 Speaker 12: doors off the place, especially Wu Tang. 440 00:18:20,148 --> 00:18:22,908 Speaker 2: The energy is incredible. So that really goes to show 441 00:18:22,948 --> 00:18:25,508 Speaker 2: you just how how. 442 00:18:25,468 --> 00:18:29,028 Speaker 12: Much the New York rap scene is our our wallpaper, right. 443 00:18:29,068 --> 00:18:30,428 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys know, I love. 444 00:18:30,388 --> 00:18:34,508 Speaker 12: Biggie, our Red Rocks, Rockefeller, I love nas I love 445 00:18:34,548 --> 00:18:37,828 Speaker 12: Wu tag all of it. But this is our soundtrack, 446 00:18:37,988 --> 00:18:40,308 Speaker 12: this is our wallpaper. And the fact that just permeates 447 00:18:40,348 --> 00:18:44,028 Speaker 12: our conversation without even thinking about it just speaks to 448 00:18:44,148 --> 00:18:45,668 Speaker 12: how much a part of our lives. 449 00:18:45,828 --> 00:18:55,308 Speaker 2: New York rap is all right, sheet in perfect. 450 00:18:57,988 --> 00:19:03,348 Speaker 4: Our next guest tailing from the Inland Empire's the Packers 451 00:19:03,428 --> 00:19:05,668 Speaker 4: many for the Walter An NFL Man of the Year. 452 00:19:05,708 --> 00:19:07,708 Speaker 3: This is Kenny Clark. Kenny, get in here. 453 00:19:07,748 --> 00:19:11,148 Speaker 11: What's what's going on? 454 00:19:11,548 --> 00:19:13,668 Speaker 3: Kenny? We love having you on GMFB. 455 00:19:13,868 --> 00:19:16,788 Speaker 4: We just got done arguing about the music scene, the 456 00:19:16,868 --> 00:19:19,708 Speaker 4: rap scene between New York City and Atlanta. What say 457 00:19:19,788 --> 00:19:22,268 Speaker 4: you about where you hail from? Just a quick thought 458 00:19:22,348 --> 00:19:25,788 Speaker 4: or two on why LA should represent Yeah, you know. 459 00:19:25,948 --> 00:19:28,108 Speaker 11: We got the biggest represent in l A right now, 460 00:19:28,308 --> 00:19:31,028 Speaker 11: you know Kswick right now. And then you know, you 461 00:19:31,068 --> 00:19:33,468 Speaker 11: can't forget about the you know, the Ice Chubes, the 462 00:19:33,468 --> 00:19:37,708 Speaker 11: OA W A C. You know those guys New Pop. 463 00:19:38,028 --> 00:19:39,068 Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying, we got we got a 464 00:19:39,068 --> 00:19:40,068 Speaker 11: lot of rappers out there. 465 00:19:41,308 --> 00:19:44,388 Speaker 4: Those one name references to musicians. It's like when you say, 466 00:19:44,468 --> 00:19:47,548 Speaker 4: you know, like the Packers, like they're representing in the NFC. 467 00:19:47,988 --> 00:19:50,468 Speaker 4: I attempted to do something there you're playing the Saints 468 00:19:50,508 --> 00:19:51,188 Speaker 4: on Monday night. 469 00:19:51,588 --> 00:19:52,748 Speaker 3: What's going on with. 470 00:19:52,708 --> 00:19:55,548 Speaker 4: This defense and how badly does this team want to 471 00:19:55,548 --> 00:19:58,508 Speaker 4: come together down the stretch and what characteristics does that 472 00:19:58,548 --> 00:20:01,588 Speaker 4: mean for you guys as you enter potential postseason play. 473 00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:05,548 Speaker 11: Yeah, this huge game this week. You know, we got 474 00:20:05,548 --> 00:20:08,068 Speaker 11: to just keep doing what we're doing, hold each other accountable, 475 00:20:08,508 --> 00:20:11,388 Speaker 11: and you know, just is working, you know, day in 476 00:20:11,428 --> 00:20:13,828 Speaker 11: and day out. You know, we've been doing a lot 477 00:20:13,868 --> 00:20:16,668 Speaker 11: of great things and improving East and every game of 478 00:20:16,788 --> 00:20:19,068 Speaker 11: been doing a great job. But our turnovers and all 479 00:20:19,068 --> 00:20:21,428 Speaker 11: that kind of stuff, stopping to run and getting guys 480 00:20:21,428 --> 00:20:24,588 Speaker 11: in past Russ situations and drop back situations and being 481 00:20:24,588 --> 00:20:26,828 Speaker 11: able to rest the passer and Bliss and Presserman all 482 00:20:26,828 --> 00:20:29,628 Speaker 11: that kind of stuff. So it's been it's been great 483 00:20:29,708 --> 00:20:32,948 Speaker 11: and we've been continuously getting better and we got to 484 00:20:32,988 --> 00:20:33,548 Speaker 11: just keep doing that. 485 00:20:35,148 --> 00:20:36,628 Speaker 2: Kenny, we love having you on the show. 486 00:20:36,668 --> 00:20:38,308 Speaker 6: You're a longtime friend of the show and one of 487 00:20:38,308 --> 00:20:41,148 Speaker 6: the great guys in the NFL. There's so many new 488 00:20:41,188 --> 00:20:45,468 Speaker 6: faces on that Packers defense. On Sunday night, Edgar and Cooper, 489 00:20:45,708 --> 00:20:48,748 Speaker 6: a rookie was flying all over the field, had an interception, 490 00:20:48,988 --> 00:20:51,068 Speaker 6: had a big play, and of course Evan. 491 00:20:50,908 --> 00:20:51,988 Speaker 2: Williams the other rookie. 492 00:20:52,068 --> 00:20:53,788 Speaker 6: But I want to ask about the newest face, the 493 00:20:53,828 --> 00:20:57,828 Speaker 6: defensive coordinator and what he's done. Jeff Hafley comes from 494 00:20:57,908 --> 00:21:00,948 Speaker 6: Boston College. He's now the d C for the Packers. 495 00:21:00,988 --> 00:21:03,228 Speaker 6: First year coach for you guys. What has he done 496 00:21:03,268 --> 00:21:07,028 Speaker 6: to help transform this d defense and everything. 497 00:21:07,188 --> 00:21:10,468 Speaker 11: Just it's just a whole new mentality here. You know. 498 00:21:10,548 --> 00:21:13,828 Speaker 11: We we we pride ourselves on defense, and we talk 499 00:21:13,908 --> 00:21:17,428 Speaker 11: about all the time just making this organization a defensive organization, 500 00:21:17,908 --> 00:21:20,548 Speaker 11: and we take it serious and uh, you know, we 501 00:21:20,588 --> 00:21:23,388 Speaker 11: work for it every single day. We just we push 502 00:21:23,428 --> 00:21:25,508 Speaker 11: each other and uh, you know that's the that's the 503 00:21:25,548 --> 00:21:28,748 Speaker 11: main key, you know, Halthlete, he's a great coach. That's 504 00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:31,588 Speaker 11: a great job, you know, with pressuring and and listening 505 00:21:31,708 --> 00:21:33,948 Speaker 11: to his players and all that kind of stuff, and uh, 506 00:21:34,028 --> 00:21:35,628 Speaker 11: you know, he just allows us to just go out 507 00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:37,308 Speaker 11: there and uh, you know, go to work. 508 00:21:39,268 --> 00:21:41,908 Speaker 7: Kenny, you're up for the Walter Peyton Man of the 509 00:21:42,028 --> 00:21:44,868 Speaker 7: Year Award. It's a really really big honor. I just 510 00:21:44,868 --> 00:21:46,908 Speaker 7: think it's so cool. It's towards the end of the season. 511 00:21:46,948 --> 00:21:49,908 Speaker 7: Now you're tired, it's getting cold outside. Would be easy 512 00:21:49,948 --> 00:21:52,068 Speaker 7: to just sit indoors and do nothing when you're not 513 00:21:52,108 --> 00:21:54,308 Speaker 7: at the facility, yet you're still out there in the 514 00:21:54,308 --> 00:21:56,828 Speaker 7: community making a difference. Why is that important to you? 515 00:21:56,868 --> 00:21:58,348 Speaker 7: And what are you the most proud of that you've done. 516 00:21:59,988 --> 00:22:02,228 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it's an honor, you know what I'm saying, 517 00:22:02,228 --> 00:22:05,228 Speaker 11: And you know it's it's important to get back. I 518 00:22:05,308 --> 00:22:07,908 Speaker 11: just know, you know, when I was little, I didn't 519 00:22:07,948 --> 00:22:11,108 Speaker 11: have nobody to come up to my school or you know, 520 00:22:11,188 --> 00:22:12,788 Speaker 11: old camps and all that kind of stuff for me, 521 00:22:13,868 --> 00:22:15,268 Speaker 11: And you know, I know what that would have did 522 00:22:15,348 --> 00:22:17,308 Speaker 11: did for me as a kid. So you know, just 523 00:22:17,428 --> 00:22:20,468 Speaker 11: for me to go back into communities and show them that, 524 00:22:20,548 --> 00:22:22,628 Speaker 11: you know, I said, in these safe seats and all 525 00:22:22,668 --> 00:22:25,028 Speaker 11: that kind of stuff, and for them to see my face, 526 00:22:26,308 --> 00:22:28,148 Speaker 11: you know, it's huge for me. You know, it's huge 527 00:22:28,148 --> 00:22:29,628 Speaker 11: for me. I know it does a lot for those kids. 528 00:22:30,108 --> 00:22:30,388 Speaker 3: Kenny. 529 00:22:30,388 --> 00:22:32,948 Speaker 4: It's really cool that you took something from your childhood 530 00:22:32,948 --> 00:22:35,508 Speaker 4: and you apply it to making the Green Bay community better. 531 00:22:35,548 --> 00:22:38,708 Speaker 4: I know the Packers and everyone that lived there appreciate it. Kenny, 532 00:22:38,868 --> 00:22:41,228 Speaker 4: Stay healthy, stay well. Happy holidays to you, Good luck 533 00:22:41,228 --> 00:22:44,188 Speaker 4: on Monday, and congratulations with again I'm being in a 534 00:22:44,228 --> 00:22:45,668 Speaker 4: Walter Payton NFL manity. 535 00:22:45,508 --> 00:22:46,188 Speaker 3: Or award of money. 536 00:22:46,988 --> 00:22:47,868 Speaker 11: I appreciate you, guys. 537 00:22:48,028 --> 00:22:52,588 Speaker 3: See Kenny all right. 538 00:22:52,828 --> 00:22:57,348 Speaker 4: Time for tie Tackles presented by Tiede Naturally. The last 539 00:22:57,388 --> 00:23:00,308 Speaker 4: time we saw the Chargers, they fell with the Bucks. 540 00:23:00,388 --> 00:23:02,948 Speaker 4: It was a brutal loss, forty to seventeen. Tampa Bay 541 00:23:02,988 --> 00:23:05,308 Speaker 4: came in here and rolled up five hundred yards of 542 00:23:05,308 --> 00:23:07,868 Speaker 4: offense right across the street at SOFI Stadium. Baker Mayfield 543 00:23:07,908 --> 00:23:11,548 Speaker 4: through for four touchdown passes, two of those to Mike Evans. 544 00:23:12,068 --> 00:23:14,348 Speaker 4: Buffs looked awesome. That's not the point though. They got 545 00:23:14,348 --> 00:23:18,788 Speaker 4: back into the win column. But the Chargers go against 546 00:23:19,188 --> 00:23:20,708 Speaker 4: the Broncos tonight. 547 00:23:20,948 --> 00:23:22,388 Speaker 3: How do they do that for themselves? 548 00:23:22,468 --> 00:23:24,268 Speaker 4: The Chargers are going to have to clean it up 549 00:23:24,788 --> 00:23:28,028 Speaker 4: on defense. Can they do it? We are going to 550 00:23:28,068 --> 00:23:30,628 Speaker 4: find out tonight. We are just hours away from kickoff 551 00:23:30,628 --> 00:23:33,948 Speaker 4: Broncos Chargers right in our backyard. Peter, how does one 552 00:23:34,108 --> 00:23:36,668 Speaker 4: get back on track? Do you feel for the Chargers 553 00:23:36,788 --> 00:23:39,148 Speaker 4: and what kind of mojo would you hope to see 554 00:23:39,148 --> 00:23:40,868 Speaker 4: from this team down the stretch. 555 00:23:41,948 --> 00:23:43,108 Speaker 2: Last week was embarrassing. 556 00:23:43,148 --> 00:23:45,548 Speaker 6: They give up five hundred yards of offense at the 557 00:23:45,628 --> 00:23:47,868 Speaker 6: number one defense in the league. I went through the 558 00:23:47,948 --> 00:23:49,628 Speaker 6: schedule earlier in the week. 559 00:23:49,908 --> 00:23:50,708 Speaker 2: They've only had. 560 00:23:50,588 --> 00:23:52,988 Speaker 6: One good win all season against a competitive team, and 561 00:23:52,988 --> 00:23:56,748 Speaker 6: that's the Broncos. Tonight with me a major statement at home, 562 00:23:57,148 --> 00:23:58,628 Speaker 6: get the job done and. 563 00:23:58,628 --> 00:24:02,068 Speaker 2: Stop the bleeding. Stop the bleeding. A tough loss to 564 00:24:02,108 --> 00:24:03,068 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. 565 00:24:02,708 --> 00:24:06,948 Speaker 6: And then of course a horrible loss to the Buccaneers. Chargers, Harball, 566 00:24:06,988 --> 00:24:09,188 Speaker 6: this is why they brought you in. Win tonight, take 567 00:24:09,228 --> 00:24:11,308 Speaker 6: care of business and pet your division rable Broncos say. 568 00:24:11,188 --> 00:24:12,508 Speaker 2: It any better than Peter just did. 569 00:24:12,588 --> 00:24:14,308 Speaker 7: It's Harbaugh, Harbor. 570 00:24:14,548 --> 00:24:14,828 Speaker 3: Listen. 571 00:24:15,148 --> 00:24:16,868 Speaker 7: We could sit here and sing about A. 572 00:24:16,988 --> 00:24:17,308 Speaker 9: JK. 573 00:24:17,468 --> 00:24:19,628 Speaker 7: Dobbin's injury, and I think it does make a difference, 574 00:24:19,628 --> 00:24:21,948 Speaker 7: and that was really their identity offensively. But come on now, 575 00:24:21,948 --> 00:24:24,228 Speaker 7: this December, everybody's got the injury they can point to. 576 00:24:24,628 --> 00:24:26,748 Speaker 7: When you have those injuries and you have that calendar 577 00:24:26,788 --> 00:24:28,948 Speaker 7: where it is, you look at the head coach and 578 00:24:28,988 --> 00:24:30,868 Speaker 7: they stand up strong on top of the mountain and say, 579 00:24:30,868 --> 00:24:34,108 Speaker 7: we're gonna get this game home, home, home against a 580 00:24:34,188 --> 00:24:37,108 Speaker 7: rookie quarterback. We got to have this game, Chargers, otherwise 581 00:24:37,108 --> 00:24:39,188 Speaker 7: we're hovering over five hundred and the season getting away 582 00:24:39,188 --> 00:24:41,428 Speaker 7: from us. They need it way way more than Denver, 583 00:24:41,788 --> 00:24:45,308 Speaker 7: not just in the standings, in the optics between the Ears. 584 00:24:45,308 --> 00:24:47,548 Speaker 7: If Chargers don't show up tonight, it's like, what are 585 00:24:47,588 --> 00:24:48,628 Speaker 7: we doing with this team this year? 586 00:24:48,628 --> 00:24:49,068 Speaker 2: I hate this. 587 00:24:49,348 --> 00:24:51,308 Speaker 9: It is this is a big one for them to 588 00:24:51,388 --> 00:24:53,388 Speaker 9: show to show up, and I think it's going to 589 00:24:53,428 --> 00:24:55,668 Speaker 9: have to happen right here. Defensively and being able to 590 00:24:55,708 --> 00:24:59,468 Speaker 9: apply pressure to bow Nicks, we saw this, this collapse 591 00:24:59,748 --> 00:25:01,788 Speaker 9: so to speak, so to speak for bow Nicks in 592 00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:04,188 Speaker 9: this last game, in his last game, and we saw 593 00:25:04,228 --> 00:25:07,908 Speaker 9: the interceptions, and we know that defensively the Chargers, they've 594 00:25:07,948 --> 00:25:10,268 Speaker 9: been carried by their defense, and so I'm looking for 595 00:25:10,308 --> 00:25:12,708 Speaker 9: them to fill in the gap for where they don't have, 596 00:25:12,908 --> 00:25:14,428 Speaker 9: what they don't have in the run game, what they 597 00:25:14,508 --> 00:25:18,388 Speaker 9: don't have, or what's inconsistent in their passing game. The Chargers, 598 00:25:18,428 --> 00:25:20,748 Speaker 9: this is a seating opportunity too, to be able to 599 00:25:20,788 --> 00:25:23,548 Speaker 9: situate themselves in the playoffs so they can make a 600 00:25:23,628 --> 00:25:26,588 Speaker 9: run for it right now, because there's some deficit that 601 00:25:26,748 --> 00:25:29,428 Speaker 9: is costing this team real opportunities. 602 00:25:29,468 --> 00:25:32,628 Speaker 4: Both of these defenses are tied for allowing just seventeen 603 00:25:32,988 --> 00:25:35,668 Speaker 4: points sixty four points per game this season. The defenses 604 00:25:35,708 --> 00:25:37,788 Speaker 4: are crazy on both sides of the wall. Peter, can 605 00:25:37,828 --> 00:25:40,188 Speaker 4: you speak to I was just thinking about Sean Payton 606 00:25:40,548 --> 00:25:42,468 Speaker 4: and what we saw from him last year and how 607 00:25:42,628 --> 00:25:45,068 Speaker 4: fourteen fifteen months ago he's sitting in a parking lot 608 00:25:45,108 --> 00:25:48,028 Speaker 4: in Denver, in a outside of a sushi restaurant, wondering 609 00:25:48,068 --> 00:25:50,668 Speaker 4: what brings him joy in football anymore. I would assume 610 00:25:50,988 --> 00:25:53,868 Speaker 4: he's in pretty good spirits now with this team, this quarterback, 611 00:25:53,868 --> 00:25:56,708 Speaker 4: but also why has this become a Sean Payton team? 612 00:25:57,668 --> 00:26:00,148 Speaker 6: If you want to know where Sean Payton's had at, 613 00:26:00,348 --> 00:26:02,388 Speaker 6: let me take you through the process of how this 614 00:26:02,468 --> 00:26:05,028 Speaker 6: game is on Thursday night this week. This game was 615 00:26:05,068 --> 00:26:07,348 Speaker 6: supposed to be a Sunday game, Brown's Bengals supposed to 616 00:26:07,348 --> 00:26:10,388 Speaker 6: be Thursday night. Amazon asked the league, can we can 617 00:26:10,428 --> 00:26:12,788 Speaker 6: we flex out of that? Can we please not have 618 00:26:12,868 --> 00:26:15,668 Speaker 6: Brown's Bengals on a Thursday night when either team is relevant? 619 00:26:15,868 --> 00:26:17,788 Speaker 6: And the league said, We're sorry, there's no other options. 620 00:26:17,788 --> 00:26:21,188 Speaker 6: The only option would be Broncos Chargers. But the Broncos 621 00:26:21,228 --> 00:26:23,468 Speaker 6: already played a road Thursday night game against the Saints. 622 00:26:23,508 --> 00:26:25,028 Speaker 2: We can't ask them to do a second one. 623 00:26:25,028 --> 00:26:27,228 Speaker 6: In fact, the league has laws saying you can't play 624 00:26:27,268 --> 00:26:30,108 Speaker 6: two road Thursday night games, so We're sorry. They said, 625 00:26:30,108 --> 00:26:32,068 Speaker 6: we'll run it by Sean Payne. Champagne said, bring it. 626 00:26:32,348 --> 00:26:33,708 Speaker 6: We'll do the road Thursday night game. 627 00:26:33,828 --> 00:26:36,348 Speaker 2: Bring it, don't wave the rules. Bring it. 628 00:26:36,628 --> 00:26:40,148 Speaker 6: He loves this team, he loves the spotlight. And I'll say. 629 00:26:39,948 --> 00:26:42,028 Speaker 2: It on the NFL network. I'll give a little sprinkle here. 630 00:26:42,068 --> 00:26:44,828 Speaker 6: Knowing Sean pretty well, you know when he was in 631 00:26:44,868 --> 00:26:48,108 Speaker 6: that year in Hibernation with me at Fox the Chargers 632 00:26:48,108 --> 00:26:49,708 Speaker 6: for one of those teams that he was following, you know, 633 00:26:49,708 --> 00:26:52,548 Speaker 6: he lived in Manhattan Beach and they said, we're not 634 00:26:52,588 --> 00:26:54,788 Speaker 6: firing Brandon Staley, We're sticking with Brandon Staley. 635 00:26:54,788 --> 00:26:55,588 Speaker 2: Were like, what we got? 636 00:26:55,668 --> 00:26:57,708 Speaker 6: He never got the opportunity, But I think the Chargers 637 00:26:57,748 --> 00:27:00,388 Speaker 6: would have been a fairly nice outcome for seanpay And 638 00:27:00,468 --> 00:27:03,108 Speaker 6: at the time, but never got the opportunity. So Denver's 639 00:27:03,148 --> 00:27:04,948 Speaker 6: at now, let's even get a in there in his 640 00:27:05,028 --> 00:27:05,748 Speaker 6: old backyard. 641 00:27:07,788 --> 00:27:11,748 Speaker 4: Kyle, you're you as a outside observer of Sean Payton 642 00:27:11,868 --> 00:27:14,108 Speaker 4: and Peter, knowing him and watching this team build into 643 00:27:14,108 --> 00:27:14,508 Speaker 4: what it is. 644 00:27:14,508 --> 00:27:16,188 Speaker 3: Because I think Peter's the only one that put. 645 00:27:16,028 --> 00:27:19,108 Speaker 4: The Broncos into the postseason for the second year in 646 00:27:19,148 --> 00:27:21,668 Speaker 4: a row. Mind you, what do you feel probably the 647 00:27:21,708 --> 00:27:24,268 Speaker 4: opposite affection for the Chargers, but this slow build of 648 00:27:24,308 --> 00:27:25,508 Speaker 4: the Broncos have put together. 649 00:27:26,868 --> 00:27:29,108 Speaker 7: Yeah, I like the nugget from Peter. I don't understand 650 00:27:29,148 --> 00:27:32,268 Speaker 7: the motivation for Peyton, like what why is he doing 651 00:27:32,308 --> 00:27:34,188 Speaker 7: anybody a favor? Wouldn't it be better if they could 652 00:27:34,188 --> 00:27:36,348 Speaker 7: play Sunday And isn't it a really cool story until 653 00:27:36,388 --> 00:27:37,868 Speaker 7: you go to La and lose and you played on 654 00:27:37,868 --> 00:27:38,468 Speaker 7: Thursday night. 655 00:27:38,548 --> 00:27:40,668 Speaker 6: Either way, they have a long breakdown. So they had 656 00:27:41,548 --> 00:27:43,628 Speaker 6: two weeks ago and now they get a long weekend. 657 00:27:43,788 --> 00:27:46,348 Speaker 6: I think the way Sean looked at it was scheduling wise. 658 00:27:46,668 --> 00:27:48,908 Speaker 6: Our last two weeks are going to be important. Regardless, 659 00:27:49,188 --> 00:27:50,868 Speaker 6: Let's get that game out of the way on Thursday. 660 00:27:50,948 --> 00:27:52,108 Speaker 6: We have a long week and oh yeah, if we 661 00:27:52,148 --> 00:27:53,988 Speaker 6: win a game in Hollywood on primetime not the worst 662 00:27:53,988 --> 00:27:54,348 Speaker 6: thing either. 663 00:27:54,548 --> 00:27:55,188 Speaker 2: That's brutal. 664 00:27:56,028 --> 00:27:58,148 Speaker 9: I mean, as a player, I know he definitely didn't 665 00:27:58,188 --> 00:28:00,828 Speaker 9: check in with probably didn't check it. Maybe he did, 666 00:28:00,868 --> 00:28:03,668 Speaker 9: but I mean, I'm sure the players are probably saying 667 00:28:03,748 --> 00:28:06,028 Speaker 9: yes because they just wanted to say yes to because 668 00:28:06,068 --> 00:28:08,268 Speaker 9: the coach probably already committed to it. But as a play, 669 00:28:08,348 --> 00:28:11,708 Speaker 9: that wrecks you, that is an absolute wreck, especially as 670 00:28:11,708 --> 00:28:13,908 Speaker 9: you go towards the back half of the season, I 671 00:28:13,908 --> 00:28:17,148 Speaker 9: mean after week eleven twelve, that body starts to decline. 672 00:28:17,188 --> 00:28:19,308 Speaker 9: They say, you know, every single game you play in 673 00:28:19,308 --> 00:28:21,388 Speaker 9: this is like equivalent to like three train wrecks, and 674 00:28:21,428 --> 00:28:25,268 Speaker 9: so you need recovery. Recovery is so important, and especially 675 00:28:25,308 --> 00:28:28,228 Speaker 9: when you get down to this situation where they're right 676 00:28:28,268 --> 00:28:31,948 Speaker 9: there on the fringe of the playoffs. It's a risky 677 00:28:32,028 --> 00:28:33,908 Speaker 9: move for sure, and it shouldn't be an excuse. 678 00:28:34,028 --> 00:28:35,068 Speaker 2: Can't say, oh, well. 679 00:28:34,868 --> 00:28:36,908 Speaker 9: We have back to back or have it being one 680 00:28:36,948 --> 00:28:38,108 Speaker 9: of those underlying things. 681 00:28:39,468 --> 00:28:41,788 Speaker 7: I think we've been talking about this game for maybe 682 00:28:41,788 --> 00:28:44,828 Speaker 7: five minutes, feels like twenty but five. I don't think 683 00:28:44,828 --> 00:28:47,508 Speaker 7: we've mentioned the name Justin Herbert unless one of you 684 00:28:47,548 --> 00:28:48,748 Speaker 7: guys said I didn't pay attention. 685 00:28:49,068 --> 00:28:49,908 Speaker 2: How about the fact. 686 00:28:49,748 --> 00:28:51,628 Speaker 7: That the state of the nation with Herbert, So he's 687 00:28:51,628 --> 00:28:54,428 Speaker 7: hosting a home game against the division rival, and all 688 00:28:54,468 --> 00:28:56,948 Speaker 7: of the heat is on the rookie quarterbacks that's coming 689 00:28:56,988 --> 00:28:59,348 Speaker 7: into Justin Herbert's stadium where he plays. 690 00:28:59,148 --> 00:28:59,748 Speaker 3: His home games. 691 00:29:00,108 --> 00:29:02,708 Speaker 7: We have a huge Herbert game. Peter says something earlier 692 00:29:02,748 --> 00:29:04,548 Speaker 7: in the show. Peter, I'm kind of pair off and 693 00:29:04,588 --> 00:29:06,908 Speaker 7: you were talking about the Ravens that they were you saying, 694 00:29:06,908 --> 00:29:08,908 Speaker 7: they were like, they're the second tier right now, They're 695 00:29:08,908 --> 00:29:12,188 Speaker 7: a second tier team. And that's fine Herbert, isn't he 696 00:29:12,268 --> 00:29:15,028 Speaker 7: still stuck in this I'm a second tier quarterback, I mean. 697 00:29:15,148 --> 00:29:17,668 Speaker 6: Never considered as a top tier quarterback. Everyone talks about 698 00:29:17,708 --> 00:29:20,548 Speaker 6: Alan and Mahomes Barrar Mahomes La, I don't do your 699 00:29:20,548 --> 00:29:21,548 Speaker 6: four a four quarterback. 700 00:29:21,588 --> 00:29:24,668 Speaker 7: And then there's like, and Justin Herbert's really talented, and 701 00:29:24,708 --> 00:29:27,628 Speaker 7: we all believe that Justin Herbert doesn't get the opportunity 702 00:29:27,668 --> 00:29:29,268 Speaker 7: to play in a lot of big games in his 703 00:29:29,388 --> 00:29:31,348 Speaker 7: career and the only playoff game he's been in his 704 00:29:31,428 --> 00:29:34,388 Speaker 7: infamous This is a big game for Justin Herbert. It's 705 00:29:34,388 --> 00:29:37,708 Speaker 7: actually a really big game. And if bone Nicks bone 706 00:29:37,788 --> 00:29:40,068 Speaker 7: Knicks comes in and steals the show in an a 707 00:29:40,148 --> 00:29:42,428 Speaker 7: legend home game for the Chargers, Herbert, it's. 708 00:29:42,228 --> 00:29:42,988 Speaker 3: Go time for him. 709 00:29:42,988 --> 00:29:45,428 Speaker 7: I don't care about Dobbins and never mind Harbaugh for 710 00:29:45,428 --> 00:29:47,508 Speaker 7: a second. He's the face of the team. Why don't 711 00:29:47,548 --> 00:29:49,188 Speaker 7: you be the face of this night, Justin Herbert? 712 00:29:49,228 --> 00:29:49,868 Speaker 3: It'd be pretty cool. 713 00:29:49,868 --> 00:29:51,908 Speaker 2: The samest time we mentioned his name all show Jess. 714 00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:55,148 Speaker 3: That is very telling. The Broncos controlled their own destiny. 715 00:29:55,148 --> 00:29:57,548 Speaker 4: If they win tonight, they clinched their postseason birth for 716 00:29:57,588 --> 00:30:01,388 Speaker 4: the first time since twenty fifteen. Now this is the 717 00:30:01,428 --> 00:30:05,188 Speaker 4: AFC playoff picture as it stands right now. Lurking teams 718 00:30:05,228 --> 00:30:09,068 Speaker 4: are becoming thinner and thinner. The Colts play the Titans 719 00:30:09,068 --> 00:30:11,388 Speaker 4: this weekend. Now, the Titans sit at three and eleven. 720 00:30:11,708 --> 00:30:15,148 Speaker 4: They are eliminated from playoff contention. They just made a 721 00:30:15,268 --> 00:30:18,988 Speaker 4: change at quarterback, moving on from Will Levis to Mason Rudolph. 722 00:30:19,148 --> 00:30:22,188 Speaker 4: They have a first year head coach and Zach Taylor, 723 00:30:22,348 --> 00:30:25,788 Speaker 4: who's trying to answer to everything under the sun in Nashville. 724 00:30:26,068 --> 00:30:28,548 Speaker 3: But someone, someone. 725 00:30:28,228 --> 00:30:30,788 Speaker 4: Out there called this team soft, and well, the head 726 00:30:30,788 --> 00:30:34,028 Speaker 4: coach had an answer to it. 727 00:30:34,068 --> 00:30:36,028 Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I think it's a complete 728 00:30:36,028 --> 00:30:39,188 Speaker 5: and total if you want my honest opinion. These guys 729 00:30:39,228 --> 00:30:42,468 Speaker 5: are tough man. They go after it every day. They 730 00:30:42,508 --> 00:30:44,588 Speaker 5: play hard as hell, And there's at no point, at 731 00:30:44,588 --> 00:30:46,668 Speaker 5: no point have we ever put on tape at any 732 00:30:46,668 --> 00:30:48,708 Speaker 5: point this season that this is a soft football team. 733 00:30:48,708 --> 00:30:51,868 Speaker 5: Like I can't even wrap my mind around how that 734 00:30:51,908 --> 00:30:53,748 Speaker 5: would even be a conversation. I mean, just because we 735 00:30:53,788 --> 00:30:57,988 Speaker 5: don't win games asn't mean we're soft. These guys play, 736 00:30:57,988 --> 00:31:00,548 Speaker 5: they're off, they play hard, they play physical. You can 737 00:31:00,588 --> 00:31:02,828 Speaker 5: ask any team that plays against us that when they 738 00:31:02,868 --> 00:31:05,868 Speaker 5: come off the field, they know they played us. Yeah, 739 00:31:05,868 --> 00:31:09,108 Speaker 5: that makes me relatively angry that would be some presumption. 740 00:31:09,188 --> 00:31:11,428 Speaker 5: That's that means you just don't you know, he don't 741 00:31:11,468 --> 00:31:13,188 Speaker 5: do anything about it, that you don't know what you're 742 00:31:13,188 --> 00:31:15,388 Speaker 5: talking about. I don't know what you're looking at, So uh. 743 00:31:15,508 --> 00:31:15,788 Speaker 2: I don't. 744 00:31:15,828 --> 00:31:17,788 Speaker 5: I won't stand for I'm not going to stand for 745 00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:21,068 Speaker 5: anybody calling his football team soft. So if that there's 746 00:31:21,108 --> 00:31:23,428 Speaker 5: opinions out there that feel that way, then you know 747 00:31:23,628 --> 00:31:26,308 Speaker 5: that's they don't know anything about anything about NFL football. 748 00:31:26,348 --> 00:31:27,948 Speaker 5: So I'd like you to walk in there and call 749 00:31:27,988 --> 00:31:29,868 Speaker 5: one of these guys soft and see what happens. You know, 750 00:31:30,988 --> 00:31:32,988 Speaker 5: this is not a soft football team at all, mentally 751 00:31:33,068 --> 00:31:33,628 Speaker 5: or physically. 752 00:31:35,668 --> 00:31:38,588 Speaker 6: Kudos to Brian Callahan taking up for his guys. I 753 00:31:38,628 --> 00:31:41,588 Speaker 6: think there is no greater sin in football than to 754 00:31:41,588 --> 00:31:45,108 Speaker 6: be called soft. We saw the Gerrodmeo situation after the 755 00:31:45,148 --> 00:31:47,828 Speaker 6: early season loss and when he referenced soft and had 756 00:31:47,868 --> 00:31:50,828 Speaker 6: to walk it back, because it's nothing greater, no more 757 00:31:50,908 --> 00:31:54,108 Speaker 6: damning word in football than to question a man's toughness 758 00:31:54,108 --> 00:31:56,388 Speaker 6: and a team's spirit and their ability to go. I 759 00:31:56,388 --> 00:31:59,508 Speaker 6: think Brian Callahan has heard all season that this team 760 00:31:59,548 --> 00:32:02,828 Speaker 6: is losing this way and that the previous leadership with 761 00:32:02,868 --> 00:32:05,308 Speaker 6: Mike Vrabel, they were tough, they were and this is 762 00:32:05,308 --> 00:32:08,588 Speaker 6: a different enough what's enough? And to Cali's credit, and 763 00:32:08,628 --> 00:32:11,948 Speaker 6: I'll give him credit, this is a football man himself. 764 00:32:12,108 --> 00:32:14,748 Speaker 6: His dad is Bill Callahan, the great offensive line coach, 765 00:32:14,788 --> 00:32:16,748 Speaker 6: former coach of the Raiders who akbar I believe you 766 00:32:16,748 --> 00:32:17,428 Speaker 6: played on THEE. 767 00:32:17,708 --> 00:32:18,948 Speaker 2: And Brian himself. 768 00:32:18,628 --> 00:32:21,308 Speaker 6: Has played football and coach football his entire life. I 769 00:32:21,308 --> 00:32:24,028 Speaker 6: think he's heard just enough in that local market and 770 00:32:24,108 --> 00:32:26,148 Speaker 6: nationally that the Titans took a major step back in 771 00:32:26,188 --> 00:32:28,628 Speaker 6: the toughness factor once Mike Vrabel walked out the door. 772 00:32:28,748 --> 00:32:30,668 Speaker 7: You hear the term old school all the time. An 773 00:32:30,668 --> 00:32:34,748 Speaker 7: old school coach. That's an old school SoundBite. Coaches don't 774 00:32:34,748 --> 00:32:37,428 Speaker 7: really talk like that anymore. When you see that, I 775 00:32:37,468 --> 00:32:40,668 Speaker 7: expect it to be in standard definition, like nineteen ninety one, 776 00:32:41,348 --> 00:32:45,108 Speaker 7: sim mora. It's like Bill Parcells, like someone just going 777 00:32:45,148 --> 00:32:47,148 Speaker 7: off Bobby Knights, like somebody. 778 00:32:47,308 --> 00:32:48,068 Speaker 2: The coaches like. 779 00:32:48,028 --> 00:32:48,508 Speaker 11: That, don't. 780 00:32:48,668 --> 00:32:51,028 Speaker 7: The coaches now don't talk like that anymore because they're 781 00:32:51,068 --> 00:32:56,108 Speaker 7: so media savvy. Also, sometimes profanity is appropriate and sometimes 782 00:32:56,108 --> 00:32:58,268 Speaker 7: it works. And I know that there's different philosophies on this, 783 00:32:58,388 --> 00:32:59,948 Speaker 7: even in the NFL, and we see it with hard 784 00:33:00,028 --> 00:33:02,908 Speaker 7: knocks sometimes and Tony Dungee, who I totally respect, is 785 00:33:02,948 --> 00:33:05,988 Speaker 7: always really again profanity, And there's a part of it 786 00:33:06,028 --> 00:33:07,428 Speaker 7: that's like that doesn't belong in the game. 787 00:33:07,748 --> 00:33:08,148 Speaker 11: I don't know. 788 00:33:08,228 --> 00:33:10,828 Speaker 7: Sometimes it does, and that part of that rant and 789 00:33:10,908 --> 00:33:13,188 Speaker 7: part of the power of that is the way that 790 00:33:13,268 --> 00:33:15,868 Speaker 7: it was enunciated, in the way that it was colored 791 00:33:15,908 --> 00:33:18,228 Speaker 7: with all the bleeps, and I think that resonates with players. 792 00:33:18,348 --> 00:33:20,228 Speaker 7: I think that might resonate with young people, and maybe 793 00:33:20,308 --> 00:33:21,268 Speaker 7: that's a shame on society. 794 00:33:21,308 --> 00:33:22,028 Speaker 3: I'm not getting to that. 795 00:33:22,588 --> 00:33:24,708 Speaker 7: If you take that out, it's not the same speech. 796 00:33:24,788 --> 00:33:26,908 Speaker 7: And I respect that he got there to that point. 797 00:33:26,988 --> 00:33:28,588 Speaker 7: I knows is not going to be really a good 798 00:33:28,628 --> 00:33:30,828 Speaker 7: look for him to be swearing in front of the media, 799 00:33:30,868 --> 00:33:33,188 Speaker 7: But he was so offended and so insulted. I thought 800 00:33:33,188 --> 00:33:34,908 Speaker 7: it was authentic, and I thought he talked like a 801 00:33:34,948 --> 00:33:37,868 Speaker 7: real person talks when they're mad about something at work. 802 00:33:38,068 --> 00:33:40,628 Speaker 7: And relatability's massive for a coach, very difficult to get. 803 00:33:40,868 --> 00:33:42,708 Speaker 7: I felt like I know that guy right there as 804 00:33:42,708 --> 00:33:44,588 Speaker 7: he was talking Brian Calhan, and I think it's kind 805 00:33:44,588 --> 00:33:44,868 Speaker 7: of cool. 806 00:33:45,068 --> 00:33:47,308 Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel you on that one, Kyle. I think 807 00:33:47,308 --> 00:33:49,908 Speaker 9: about Tony Dungee and he's right, you know as far 808 00:33:49,948 --> 00:33:52,268 Speaker 9: as like for me personally, like I'm not a dude 809 00:33:52,268 --> 00:33:55,308 Speaker 9: who swears a lot, but there's something that happens when 810 00:33:55,388 --> 00:33:57,228 Speaker 9: you step on the field, like when I get on 811 00:33:57,268 --> 00:33:59,948 Speaker 9: the field, it for me, it just it's a switch 812 00:34:00,068 --> 00:34:02,828 Speaker 9: and you can only play this game in a certain way, 813 00:34:02,988 --> 00:34:06,188 Speaker 9: like and it's full of ocean, full of everything you have, 814 00:34:06,268 --> 00:34:07,828 Speaker 9: and so yeah, there is that switch. And you could 815 00:34:07,908 --> 00:34:10,868 Speaker 9: see that like even though he's not playing, he's in 816 00:34:10,948 --> 00:34:13,548 Speaker 9: the trenches with those guys and so yet it all 817 00:34:13,588 --> 00:34:15,948 Speaker 9: comes out like of course he's gonna feel some type 818 00:34:15,948 --> 00:34:18,788 Speaker 9: of way about that. But you know, to whoever the 819 00:34:18,828 --> 00:34:21,868 Speaker 9: pundits are calling the team soft, I think there is 820 00:34:22,068 --> 00:34:24,508 Speaker 9: not necessarily a case to say that the team is soft. 821 00:34:24,668 --> 00:34:27,148 Speaker 9: But look at three and eleven. You think about those 822 00:34:27,268 --> 00:34:30,828 Speaker 9: massive blowout losses against the Commanders, against the Bills, against 823 00:34:30,828 --> 00:34:34,028 Speaker 9: the Lions, and yes, there's a reason for people to 824 00:34:34,148 --> 00:34:36,988 Speaker 9: question the toughness of this team, and I think it 825 00:34:37,028 --> 00:34:39,308 Speaker 9: has less to do with you know the record as 826 00:34:39,388 --> 00:34:41,388 Speaker 9: much as it is, how much do you want to fight? 827 00:34:41,508 --> 00:34:43,828 Speaker 9: When we talk about, you know, in the previous regime, 828 00:34:44,108 --> 00:34:47,188 Speaker 9: about this team showing some great this team showing that 829 00:34:47,188 --> 00:34:50,068 Speaker 9: they have ability to fight back, and I think personnel wise, 830 00:34:50,108 --> 00:34:52,908 Speaker 9: obviously they've been handicapped in a lot of different areas. 831 00:34:52,948 --> 00:34:55,348 Speaker 9: But I do want to see a team like this, 832 00:34:55,508 --> 00:34:57,588 Speaker 9: the Tennessee Tights. I want to see them fight. I 833 00:34:57,628 --> 00:35:00,268 Speaker 9: know one thing from coach Callahan. Coach Callahan, he's grimy, 834 00:35:00,388 --> 00:35:03,308 Speaker 9: that dude is. And I'm talking about Bill Callahan, Pops Pops. 835 00:35:03,508 --> 00:35:06,388 Speaker 9: He is griming. That old line they grimy like. That's 836 00:35:06,388 --> 00:35:08,308 Speaker 9: the way he teaches the game. I want to see 837 00:35:08,308 --> 00:35:10,868 Speaker 9: the Tennessee Titans. I want to see them grimy like 838 00:35:10,988 --> 00:35:13,028 Speaker 9: finish out strong. I mean, just go ahead and finish 839 00:35:13,068 --> 00:35:14,388 Speaker 9: out the last three strong. 840 00:35:15,988 --> 00:35:17,868 Speaker 7: There's many teams right now who have a poor record, 841 00:35:17,908 --> 00:35:19,708 Speaker 7: who have no shadow making the playoffs, But the measure 842 00:35:19,708 --> 00:35:21,188 Speaker 7: of those teams often er what do they do in 843 00:35:21,188 --> 00:35:23,428 Speaker 7: the last three weeks? They keep fighting? Do they keep battling? 844 00:35:23,508 --> 00:35:26,028 Speaker 7: Does our coach have them locked in? I'm actually excited 845 00:35:26,028 --> 00:35:27,948 Speaker 7: to watch the Titans. Let's go, I really am. They 846 00:35:27,948 --> 00:35:30,188 Speaker 7: want angry runs on our show to Andre Sweat and 847 00:35:30,228 --> 00:35:32,348 Speaker 7: now Brian Callahan gave one of the best press moments 848 00:35:32,348 --> 00:35:33,908 Speaker 7: of the entire season. I want to watch the Titans 849 00:35:33,948 --> 00:35:34,388 Speaker 7: this weekend.