1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: What a coach. We're ready if you want to if 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: you want to open, Oh yeah, I'm good to go. Good. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: We'll start with Chris Bryan follow my box because morning Bill. 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Are you good? Chris? How's it going good? UM? I 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: want to ask you a couple of questions about physicality, 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: as you referenced the Jets physicality the other day and 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: a number of your defensive players have said that that's 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: going to be one of the key attributes to your 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: team this year. Um, how big do you see the 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: physical battle being in this game? In that realm? I 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: don't think it's part of the game every week. And um, 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: certainly the Jets are a team that. Um, they're coached 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: to play hard, they play with the high effort, they're tough, 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: they're they play with a good level of physicality. We'll 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: have to match that and UM, you know, try to 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: exceed it. But you know, they really do a good 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 1: job on a line of scrimmage of running the ball, UM, 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: defending the run, attacking the pocket. Um. You know, we 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: saw a coach a lot do that at San Francisco, 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: and that's the way he's training this team. Same thing 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: with the offensive coaches with coach la Fleur and coach 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Benton on the offensive line. They were in San Francisco, 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: We you know, saw them their style of play. I 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: think everybody knows what that is. They run the balls 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: other than Ravens, probably as much as any team in 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: the league, twenty one personnel and all that. So I 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: think I'll be a big part of the game. And 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: how much of a team's physicality is mental and how 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: do you go about trying to put the group in 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: a place where they can get to that level of 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: physicality that you want from a mental standpoint. Yeah, that's yeah, 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: that's a tough question. There's a lot of components there. 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: There's a mental part of that. But I mean, you 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: have to have a physical toughness technique style play, you know. 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean there's things there's different to me being tough 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: and being physical, and they're both admirable and good qualities. 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: But you know, being physical it really means to physically 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: be able to dominate physically the guy you're playing against, 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: whatever position that happens to be. You know, being tough 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: is being tough. That doesn't necessarily correlate to you being 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: able to overpower an opponent. So but some of that 42 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: has to do with techniques. Some of it has to 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: do with you know, style of play, speed, power, explosion strength, 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, and the ability to transfer all those into 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, force on contact. So depending on the position 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: the player is, playing style and so forth, there's I 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: think different different ways you can see that, different components 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: of it. But it's just something that certainly I think 49 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: the Jets try to bring to the game, and it's 50 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: important us as well. Thanks ste Yeah, you're welcome. Thanks question, 51 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: Bob Score, I thank Stacy. Good morning, Bill. Hey Bill. 52 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: I know that there only one game into this season 53 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: and that no game has decided in the opening quarter alone, 54 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: or at least the opening drive. I'm curious, though, fast 55 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: starts versus slow starts, besides the obvious of taking the 56 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: first leader being behind from the outset, how significant is 57 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: that and how much have you invested just looking back, 58 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: not only in the game against Miami, but really kind 59 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: of over the last year plus in making a difference 60 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: at the start of the first half and even the 61 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: start of the second half. Well, I think, as I 62 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: think you put it, well, the start of everything's important. 63 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: It's not the final result, but it's important, and it's 64 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: a component of it. So the first drive is important, 65 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: The first play of every drive is important. Um, being 66 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: a head in the first quarter doesn't ensure being a 67 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: head in the fourth quarter, but it's a good place 68 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: to start. So again, can a slow start be overcome? 69 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: You know, sure, Um, But does a good start give 70 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: you an edge on you know, now three quarters of 71 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: a game instead of four quarters and you have a lead, well, 72 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, you have an advantage. So I think that's 73 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: that's something that that you want to again get on 74 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: the scoreboard. You want to try to you know, being 75 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: second and two instead of second and tent or defensively 76 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: you want them in second and nine instead of second 77 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: and three. So the fast start of each each down 78 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: and distant sequence affects how the rest of the sequence 79 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: is going to go. And those third down conversions and 80 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: everybody talks about how important they are, and they are 81 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: they have a lot to do with what happened on 82 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: first and second down. What your percentages are going to 83 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: be on third down. Just strictly from a you know 84 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: a number standpoint, you still have to go and execute 85 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: the play no matter what it is. But or defended 86 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: whatever the side of this year on but certainly gained 87 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: an advantage on the first and second down helps you 88 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: on third down, So it's um, you know, so therefore 89 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: you have a lot of fast starts in the game, right, 90 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: I Mean there's every place sort of a start of 91 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: something new, a new series, a new you know, a 92 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: new drive, a new set of downs. But you know, 93 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: however you want to wherever you want to draw those 94 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: lines of demarcation, Doing well on the first one is 95 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: and is a good thing. So they all teams try 96 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: to do that in one way or another. And there's 97 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: definitely a psychological element of you know, setting the tone, 98 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: getting the upper hand and gaining confidence, etc. That comes 99 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: along with um, let's say, early success. Right, Thank you, Yeah, 100 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: thanks all. Thanks question Chart Sullivan for by you killing him. 101 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: Thanks Stacy, Good morning Bill. It's a little bit of 102 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: a non football question, but more just one of coaching, 103 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: of all the ways that you deal with the aftermath 104 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: of a tough play. And I'll mention Damian Harris's fumble 105 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: as an example, not specific to that, but like we're 106 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: we're in your coaching, do you do you include sort 107 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: of helping players navigate negative reaction to something like that. 108 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: We've seen it, especially at the start of this season 109 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: in social media in particular, Is that part of your 110 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: coaching just to help guys navigate around what might be 111 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: negative reaction from the outside to a play like that. Yeah, 112 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: um so, Tara, First of all, you know, I don't 113 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: really know or care anything about social media. I don't 114 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: even know what's out there isn't out there, So that's 115 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: the irrelevant to me. But it doesn't matter. M We 116 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: played football before there was social media and it didn't 117 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: matter then either. So but I think anytime you have 118 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: a team, um that we all, you know, rely on 119 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: each other, we're all accountable to each other, and we 120 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: all support each other, and we all make mistakes, and 121 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: we can make a mistake at the beginning of the game, 122 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: we can make a mistake at the end of the game. 123 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: And sometimes that gets magnified because of the timing of it. 124 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: But you know, there are other things that could have 125 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: happened at different points in the game that would have, 126 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, had just as big or maybe even a 127 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: bigger effect on the game. So you know, we all 128 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: we all need to correct whatever mistakes we've made in 129 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: the game and try to do better. That goes for 130 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: all of us. Me assistant coaches, the players, and everybody, 131 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: and that's that's something we all feel accountable for. I mean, 132 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: I know there are things in the game that you know, 133 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: I maybe could have done a better job of, or 134 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: maybe done differently. I think it would have affected the 135 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: outcome of the game. I'm sure they're every player on 136 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: the every player and coach, a participant in the game 137 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: fields like that. I know I felt like that when 138 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: I called plays or even when I play, I thought 139 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: I was a good player. But you know, you still 140 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: feel accountable for the things you do out there. At 141 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: the same time, everybody's doing the best they can. Nobody's 142 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, not not doing the right thing on purpose. 143 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't work out, sometimes it does. But I mean, 144 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: in the end, you control your preparation, you control your effort, 145 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: you control your attitude, you control your toughness. Those things 146 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: are all in your control. You do the best that 147 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: you can with those. Once you let those go, then 148 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: I think that's really where the problems start, because now 149 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: you're not you're not doing everything you can to give 150 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: yourself and your team the best chance. So mistakes, no mistakes, 151 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: whatever did or didn't happen, turn to page You move on, 152 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: You prepare, you get ready for the next opportunity. You 153 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: do that as an individual, you do it as a unit, 154 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: you do it as a team. And I think that's 155 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: what we all do every week, win or lose, um 156 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: good play or bad play. I think the real the 157 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: true competitors and the true professionals that I've been around. 158 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: I've been fortunate to be around a lot of them. 159 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: You approach it that way. You control, you can control 160 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: what happens, happens if you learn from it. You learn 161 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,359 Speaker 1: from it. But then you move ahead to the next opportunity, 162 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: the next competition, and you do the best you can 163 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: in that one. So thank you for the question. Now, 164 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: it's good. It's part of part of competitive sports. Thank you, 165 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: and you're kill here. Hey, good morning, Bill, Andrew, you 166 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: do good. Thank you. So I understand that no Pass 167 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: Jets game will obviously have any bearing excuse me, what 168 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: happens on Sunday. But it's someone who appreciates, obviously the 169 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: history of the game, and I know I've spoken about 170 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: it with your team in terms of the history of 171 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: the franchises and where they come from. What has just 172 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots Jets rivalry or series meant to you so 173 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: long as you've been a part of it the last 174 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five thirty years, and just how would you 175 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: describe it. I think it's similar to other division rivalries 176 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: that I've been a part of. Um, you play a 177 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: team twice a year, you're both chasing the same um, 178 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, goal of the division championship, and then you 179 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: know ultimately after that, but what happens after that, But 180 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a rival degree where you know 181 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: your opponent well, they know you well, and you know 182 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: you you have a high level of competition and respect 183 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: for the other, the opponent, but you also go at 184 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: a high level of competition because they know you so well. 185 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: You know that well and and you kind of you know, 186 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: prod and poke and look for areas to attack and 187 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: exploit based on i would say, almost an intimate knowledge 188 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: of of your opponent and they do the same and 189 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: so um, you know, it's it's not that all all 190 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: the games aren't competitive, but I think those divisional games 191 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: are just a little more competitive because of the familiarity 192 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: of the teams and the franchises and and that we 193 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: have and let's say particularly you know, with the Jets 194 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: or the Dolphins last week. There's also some you know, 195 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: transfer of personnel, players and coaches from one team to 196 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: another fairly recently that you know, add another level of 197 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: knowledge and and h information about about the opponent from 198 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: kind of what it looks like from the other side 199 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: of the fence that you don't always get to see. 200 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: Um that can you know, can can highlight some of that. 201 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: That the level of competition as well. So, but I 202 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: mean I've been in you know, I was in Baltimore, 203 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: I was in Detroit twelve years in the Giants, you know, 204 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: so Denver. You know, there's those rivalries within those divisions 205 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: are are very similar to the rivalries with the three teams. 206 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: We have an art of vision. Um. They're just a 207 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: little tighter, a little more personal um, a little more 208 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:33,599 Speaker 1: frequent um. And you know, so it's a little a 209 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: little say, it's a little higher energy and preparation level 210 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: just because of again the the reasons that I just mentioned. 211 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, real next questions, thank good morning, Bill. I 212 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: have a question that's a little out of left field. 213 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: It's about roster building and not having to do with 214 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: the game this week, but it's something I've been thinking 215 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: about for a while, and it's about long snapping actually, 216 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: And I was just kind of wondering, and this is no, 217 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: with all due respect to Joe Cardona and all the 218 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: fine long snappers out there, but is long snapping that 219 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: difficult that you need to use a roster on one 220 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: player who does only that. Can't you just cross train 221 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: a few guys to do long snapping and then you 222 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: have more flexibility that roster spun. Yeah, well, you know, Bennetts, 223 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: it's an interesting conversation and one that's really I would say, honestly, 224 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: during the course of my coaching career has has kind 225 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: of traveled that that long and winding road from when 226 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: I came into the league. The specialist. First of all, 227 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: there were no long snappers, but the specialist, the kickers 228 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: and the punters were frequently positioned players, and that's where 229 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: they came from in college as well, So a lot 230 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: of the good college punters and place kickers also played 231 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: a position. And then as time evolved, you know, starting 232 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: with like Gogolac and guys like that, Uh, you know, 233 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: they specialized in kicking, and then you had, you know, 234 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: some of the punters that specialized in punters. So players 235 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: like Danny White and Tom Toopa and guys like that 236 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: who were you know, very good position players. Um, you 237 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:28,479 Speaker 1: know became Gino Cappelletti. Uh. You know that that evolved 238 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: into specialists because of I would say, the importance of 239 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: the kicking game, uh and the number of you know, 240 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: the number of plays that the kicking game and opportunities 241 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: that have provided uh same thing. We're returners. There were 242 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: very few just pure returners. I think one of the 243 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: long snapping to me changed in the mid eighties. Um. 244 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: And and really the key guy in that was Dios 245 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: in my opinion, because Steve was the first, the first 246 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: center that really truly allowed a spread punt formation against 247 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: the all out rush. Prior to that, teams would generally pull. 248 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: First of all, there wasn't that many gunners. But when 249 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: teams started using gunners, they would pull one in and 250 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: kick away from the free guy on the backside. And 251 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: that was kind of the idea. The protection was not 252 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: to let the snapper block against the a nine man 253 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: rush with a split player, so the return team would 254 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: have one guy on the gunner that split one guy returned, 255 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: so he got nine guys rushing against essentially, you know, 256 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: the punter who wasn't a blocker, the split guy who 257 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: wasn't a blocker, and the snapper who really wasn't a blocker. 258 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: So it was nine on eight and the idea was 259 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: to block the most dangerous eight and let the ninth 260 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: guy go and punt away from him. And then when 261 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys went to the spread punt and then the 262 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals followed that pretty quickly and they kept two gunners 263 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: split and the snapper blocked a guy. Then that created 264 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: an eight on eighth situation, but put a lot of 265 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: pressure on the snapper to you know, deliver the ball 266 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: fifteen yards deep on the money and still block a 267 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: good rusher, you know, offset in the a gap. I mean, 268 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: we've all seen offensive linemen have trouble making that block 269 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: on a passplay and so now you're talking about a 270 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: deep snap and a in a block. But as players 271 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: got better at that and that skill became more I 272 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: would say players became more efficient at that, then you know, 273 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: teams decided to carry a long snapper rather than worry 274 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: about getting a punt block. Plus, there was also the 275 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: level of consistency and durability with those players. So if 276 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: you lose a position player who's also a long snapper. 277 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: You know, you're looking at some some real problems. And 278 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: that evolved into the punters, for the apart becoming holders 279 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: because the amount of time that they could spend with 280 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: the kickers versus having a wide receiver or quarterback be 281 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: the holder, which again you don't see very much of 282 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: that anymore. Assuming the punter is you know, capable and 283 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: good enough, you know, has good enough hands to be 284 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: the holder. And so then that kind of whole unit 285 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: has really evolved into you know, a specified snapper, a 286 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: specified kicker, a specific punter, and generally the punter as 287 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: the holder. So the three of those guys could work 288 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: together all practice because they're all available. And I know, 289 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: again going back when I first came into the league, 290 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: you worked on you know, field goals, and I mean 291 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: it was maybe you know, five minutes, because that was 292 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: the only time the starting center and the starting receiver 293 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: or backup quarterback or whatever we're available to practice that. So, like, 294 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: is it that hard. It's a pretty hard job. Yeah, 295 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: it's a pretty hard job. It's not as hard as 296 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: it used to be because you're not allowed to hit 297 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: the center, especially on field goals, and you know, run 298 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: them over and um. There are some limitations on the 299 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: punt rush based on you know, what the formation is 300 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: and so forth, but generally speaking, but it's still it's 301 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: it's a hard block to and and I think you 302 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: see most punt rushes attack the snappers, so they loop 303 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: guys back to the center. Thinks he's going right, but 304 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: then he has to come back to the left or 305 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: or maybe they fake like they're coming back, but they 306 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: don't come back, so he not only has a snap. 307 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: And so then that gets into whether you're a blind 308 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: snapper and you look at the rush and to snap 309 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: the ball, or whether you're a look back snapper and 310 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: snap it. And then after the snap you have to 311 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: look up and recognize what's happened and and make the 312 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: pop proper block. But again it's it's man to man 313 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: blocking like that guy's got to block somebody, um, or 314 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: you're a guy short. So it is it is a 315 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: hard job. And the accurate see of the I would 316 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: say the place kickers through the years, which has gone 317 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: up dramatically. Part of that's the surface. Part of that's 318 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: the you know, not kicking outdoors and so forth. Part 319 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: of it is the operation between you know, the snapper 320 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: of the holder and the kicker, which I would say 321 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: generally speaking, is at a pretty high level, which it 322 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 1: should be in the National Football League. So I think 323 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: if you go back and look at you know, kicks 324 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: from back when that wasn't you know, you see balls 325 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: rolling back and the holder coming out of a stance 326 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: that catch the ball, and it kind of things you 327 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: see you know at times in a high school game 328 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. There's just a much higher 329 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: level of skill, which there should be. But yeah, I 330 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: think it's a pretty pretty tough position and you know, 331 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: nobody knows or cares who the snapper is and it's 332 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: a bad snap and all of a suddenly it's from 333 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: paid story. So you know there's a decent amount of 334 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: pressure on that player as well, not just a snap, 335 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: but also as I said to you know, to block 336 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: in punt protection. So as to roster sizes have increased, 337 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: it's been a lot easier to carry that player, just 338 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: like it's a lot easier to carry a true returner. 339 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: And so in terms of depth and availability, um, you know, 340 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: you really don't want to be looking for one of 341 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: those players in the middle of the of any time 342 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: at the middle of the game or middle of the 343 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: season when you have him as you know, a starting 344 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: receiver or a starting you know, Luke rosa starting tackle 345 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: or you know whoever those guys and they're playing and 346 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: something happens and only use a player, but you know, 347 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: you lose a key specialist as well. So yeah, it's 348 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great question. It's and you know, 349 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: there would be so much value in a player that 350 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: could do a couple of things and save a roster spot, 351 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: but I would say there are so few of those 352 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: players available, even to the point where U and you know, 353 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: Am and Dola did a great job last week. But 354 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: it's so rare that you even see a combination and 355 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: punter and place kicker. Usually it's it's one or the other. 356 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: And I think part of that is, you know, at 357 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: one level, it's it's you know, I'll say, relatively easy 358 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: to put your foot on the ball. But at this level, um, 359 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, the difference in kicking mechanics and punting mechanics 360 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: are are so different, um that it's really hard to 361 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: be good at both. But you know, if a guy's 362 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: got a good leg and he's a good athlete, and 363 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, you make good contact with the ball. There's 364 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: a point where, you know, high school, college, you know, 365 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's good enough, maybe he's the best guy on 366 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: the team to do that. But I'd say at this level, 367 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: that's pretty you know, that's that will be asking a 368 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: lot now, you know, like Jake and punt, Jake and kickoff, um, 369 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, Jake and kickfield goals, you know, to be 370 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: at the kind of level you want it to be 371 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: at to have the persons split their time between the 372 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: two of those. Again, I think, is you know, a 373 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: lot to ask. It's not you know, I'm not saying 374 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: it's in learn heard of, but it's a lot to ask. 375 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: That's the way you don't see it very much. That's 376 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: a good question. It's really interesting. And I'd say if 377 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: you look at the evolution of those positions over the 378 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: last you know, since I've been in the league, but 379 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: even a little bit before then, because that's really where 380 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: it started to go was in the late sixties, Like 381 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: I think Goglac you know, was the first or one 382 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: of the first where that trend really started to Okay, 383 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: we're just going to keep a guy and all he 384 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: does is kick you know, when you're premiing guys like 385 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: that that that's all they did. That was that was 386 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: a little bit unusual. Um, but you know, gradually that's 387 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: become the new norm. Thank you, Bill. That was as 388 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: thorough and in depth as I hope to Appea. Thank you, No, 389 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: you're welcome, Ben. Thanks for the question. If you have 390 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: time for one more and it was still period. Hey Bill, 391 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: how are you good? Um? I did want to ask 392 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: you about the game here, but but also sort of 393 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: about something that you mentioned earlier this week, and that 394 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Sala comes from a specific style of 395 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: defense that he was running in San Francisco and has 396 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: carried it over to the Jets. The corners that have 397 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: been used in that system over the years, it feels 398 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: like have relatively similar skill sets or or physical characteristics, 399 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask you maybe why that is 400 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: for that style of defense, why those types of defensive 401 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: backs work in that style, and maybe how the Jets corners, 402 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Echoes and Hall kind of fit into that mold, if 403 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: there is a mold. Well, you know, I think that's 404 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: a honestly probably a better better question for coach Salo. 405 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: But because that's not really a style of defense that 406 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: we play, and you know exactly what the criterias that 407 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: they're looking for. I'm not sure that you know, I'm 408 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: qualified to speak iclaly on that, but I would just 409 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: say in in the Jets case, you know, the foundation 410 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 1: of the base of the defense is clearly you know, 411 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: the let's call it this Seattle three type system that 412 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: Pete had that uh coach Solo worked under and so forth. 413 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: But but they've changed some of these, like they don't 414 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: do everything that Seattle does. Um, they have a different, uh, 415 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, different packages, some different coverages, UM. Some of 416 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: the things that that Seattle did under the let's call 417 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: it the original kind of Pete Seattle three type defense. Um. 418 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: You know, whether it's the Jets or other teams that 419 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: have come from that general you know, basic tree, you know, 420 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: have branched off and either modified them based on their 421 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: own philosophy, or maybe it's you know, a combination of 422 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: personnel or also just the way that the game has 423 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: evolved in a las decade that maybe they feel more 424 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: comfortable doing certain things that either those that those defenses 425 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: didn't have, or they've modified the adjustments in a way 426 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: that's you know, easier or fits them better. So again 427 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: in just case, I think that's the foundation. I'd say, 428 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: if you look at their defense and look at the 429 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, the cl defenses in the early two thousand 430 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: and you know twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen that Pete ran there, 431 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: there's quite a few differences, you know, besides personnel, forget 432 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: about that. There's quite a few differences there. And so 433 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying one's better than the other. I mean, 434 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: certainly San Francisco had a lot of success last year, 435 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: and you know in the four years that coach Slaw 436 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: was there, But you know, Pete's had a lot of 437 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: success doing it his way. And you know Dan Quinn, 438 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley and all the other guys that have come 439 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: from that system. You know, it's that they all kind 440 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: of have there a little. It's no different than the 441 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: West Coast offense in my opinion, where you know, you 442 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: have a certain West Coast offensive system with coach Brown 443 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: going back to Cincinnati or Coach Walsh in San Francisco, 444 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: and then that's evolved into where it's coach Holmger and 445 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: coach Bruden, you know, go right down the line, Coach 446 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: McCarthy and all the all the people that have come 447 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: in through that system, like that may be the foundation 448 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: or basis for it, but you know, there's a lot 449 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: of other things that have been added to it, um 450 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: particularly the running game that varies quite a bit from 451 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: team to team, even though the passing game maybe have 452 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: roots in that. Again, going back to you know, Walsh 453 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 1: and Brown and those coaches, the running game was as 454 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: much as part of the West Coast offense as the 455 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: passing game. Now, I would say that's been much more 456 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: modified or individualized, you know, by team. So sorry, long 457 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: answer and still didn't answer the question. You know, a 458 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: lot of long, fast corners back in Pete system. I 459 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: think everybody in the league likes long fast, competitive corners. 460 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think those guys could probably you know, 461 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman and those guys could have played in any system, 462 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: but you know, they were in that system. And you know, 463 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: I think there's examples of guys that fit that description, 464 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: but also guys that you know didn't fit that description. 465 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: You know, Truffon in Atlanta for coach Quinn as an example, 466 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: Like you know that, you know, we're good players that 467 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: had different style plays. So yeah, I mean I'm not again, 468 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure that it's just has to be 469 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: one way or certainly not like that anymore. All Right, interesting? 470 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: Thanks Bill, Yep, Thanks, thank you coach. Thanks everyone,