1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict or Senator Tech Chris ben Ferguson 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: with you and our guest Jenny Events live from See 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Back Go. This is gonna be fun for everyone listening 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: to the show. Later they have a you guys have 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: a vote YEP today and you both have to go back. 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: We decided we're gonna make this work. We'll have jd 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: On with us as well. Senator let's just talk about like, 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: you guys have really good jobs. But I've learned you 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: guys have no idea what your schedule is. How is 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: that possible? In government? It's actually you got the joke, 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: all right. I like that. It is a bizarre thing. 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: In the Senate. You have utterly no control over your schedule. 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: The Senate majority leader decides when to call a vote, 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: and look, Chuck Schumer is really bad at it. So 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: you have literally no idea what's happening. He'll come in, 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: decide to have a vote, maybe not decide to have 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: a vote. So on Thursday nights typically we fly into 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: DC Monday mornings, we fly home thurday nights, but we 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: don't know if we're home or not, so I would 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: call home. I remember, you know, one of my girls 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: were little. I'd call home and and they'd say, well, Daddy, 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: are you going to be home tonight? And I'd say, 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: I have no idea. And actually Caroline referred to Mitch 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: McConnell for years as that mean men, because she would say, 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: she'd ask, Daddy, are you coming home? And I said, well, 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: it depends on when Mitch calls the vote. She said, 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: is that mean man gonna let you come home tonight? 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: Which I told Mitch that. Into his credit, he last 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: pretty hard. He thinks that's that's funny. But is that 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: not a bizarre aspect of this job? It really is. 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: And so my version of this is, you know, when 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: I first got sworn in early January, and I would 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: go home and do a lot of radio interviews with people, 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: and they'd say, what's what's the most interesting part of 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: the job. What's the thing you didn't expect? I talk 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: a little bit about the schedule, and I think they 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: wanted me to have some some brilliant policy solution or idea, 38 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: And what I always just sort of blurn it out, 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: almost accidentally, was these guys don't work very hard, right, 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: So the very first day we're sworn in, were then 41 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: sent on a three week recess, and that really frustrated 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: me because you know, I'm a new senator. I want 43 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: to get to work. I want to work with my 44 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: good friend Ted here. And then I kind of realized, actually, 45 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: the Democrats not working very hard for the next two 46 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: years is maybe not the worst thing in the world. 47 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: So Mary, that's that's an accurate, accurate statement there. Every 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: day the Schumer Senate is not in session as a day, 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: they're not destroying America, that's right. So you're saying more 50 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: three vacations and sword are needed. Basically, I like it. 51 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: I want to get into policy, and JD. You're new 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: to the Senate. You're in the minority now, not the majority, 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: and that's obviously coming with interesting things. But what we 54 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: have seen come out is the issue of COVID and 55 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: the media getting it wrong and having to admit they 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: got it wrong. On the Wuhan Lab Institute, on the 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: fact that we weren't crazy, and on this podcast three 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: years ago we said, you said, Center, this is pretty 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: clear from doubt that we have coming in. There's a 60 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: very good chance this is we're being lied to by China. Well, 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: and let's reflect for a second. So three years ago 62 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: this podcast was here at Spack on the stage, and 63 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: three years ago, thank god we're finally allowed to gather 64 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: again by our nation's capital. Yeah yeah, you look at 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: the idiots who had shut the country down and listen. 66 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: Sepack has an interesting mark to my mind as of 67 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: really the beginning of the pandemic. Because we did the podcast, 68 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: it did verdict and here at Spack, I flew home 69 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: and actually I had a campaign fundraiser at an Eagles concert, 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: which and I love the Eagles. I will confess that 71 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: was my idea. It's like, all right, if you got 72 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: to have people right checks to the campaign, let's at 73 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: least go to a cool concert enjoy it. And so 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: we're sitting there Saturday, early evening and I get a 75 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: phone call from match Lap and Matt's like, yeah, Ted, 76 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: I need to tell you so. So a good friend 77 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: of ours who was at CEPEC with you has this 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: thing called COVID and yeah, you guys were piddling around 79 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: and this is kind of a problem. I'm like, oh really, 80 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: And so I ended up quarantining for two weeks as 81 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: a result of Matt's call. Thank you, But I will 82 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: tell you the worst part was not that it was 83 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: Heidi coming down the stairs dressed to the nine. She 84 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: was ready to go to the Eagles concerts, and I'm like, okay, 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: so I love that we have a suity audience because 86 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: if you didn't hear that in the video on the 87 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: audio of this, all the ladies are in the audience here. Okay. 88 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: She comes down ready to go, and I'm like, okay, sweetheart, 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: we can't go. And she gets mad. She's like, these 90 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: people paid thousands of dollars to go hang out at 91 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: this fundraiser. You can't stand them up. And at this point, 92 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: very few people knew much of anything about what COVID was. 93 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: But I'm like, look, this is potentially a deadly virus. 94 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: We don't know, and I promise you they will be 95 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: happy that we're not exposing them to it at the outset. 96 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: So we called and explained it to them, and they 97 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: had a great time at the concert and we stayed 98 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: at home and Heidi was mad at me. So it 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: is worth pointing out that three years later, we've discovered 100 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: that the virus if you're really old, if you're really sick, 101 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: it can be deadly. But for young, healthy people, we've 102 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: discovered the health impacts are much lower than we thought. 103 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: And what's interesting is the breaking news that we all 104 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: know now that now two different cabinet agency in the 105 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: Biden administration, Department of Energy and the FBI, have both 106 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: concluded that it is likely that the COVID virus came 107 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: from a Chinese government lab. Now, as everyone here knows, 108 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: finally these two departments are doing some good workout. It 109 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: is shocking. But as everyone here knows, for two years 110 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: that was derided as a conspiracy theory, tinfoil hat wearing, 111 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: nutty theory that you weren't allowed to say, that you'd 112 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: get banned on social media for saying. And I have 113 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: to point out this podcast three years ago, in March 114 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, and in April of twenty twenty, we 115 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: did two extended pods laying out the evidence then three 116 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: years ago that this came from a Chinese government lab. 117 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: And in fact we walked through what convinced these guys today. Yeah, 118 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: almost all of it you knew three years ago, but 119 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: politics wouldn't let them say it. And so I will say, 120 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: and miraculously they didn't censor our podcast. They sensor just 121 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: about everything else, but they didn't try to sense their verdicts. 122 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: I do think it's only appropriate we're back in DC 123 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: that we remind the amazing media of what they were 124 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 1: saying to the American people. I want to play clip 125 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: to take a look at this. This is your media 126 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: not pushing any narrative at all. Tomcott, in a couple 127 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: of days ago, spouting a conspiracy theory that the Chinese 128 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: made this virus up in a lab, conservative talk show 129 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: host Rush Limbaugh with zero proof, suggesting a Chinese bioweapon 130 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: lab is to blame. We know that it's been debunked 131 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: that this virus was manmade or modified or anything like that. 132 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Doctor Anthony Fauci rejected the conspiracy that coronavirus was man 133 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: made in a lab in Wulan, China, And yet this week, 134 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is still pushing the debunked bunkum, despite his 135 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: own intelligence community's findings that that is simply not true. 136 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: If you look at the evolution of the virus in 137 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: bats and what's out there now is a very very 138 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: strongly leaning towards this could not have been artificially or 139 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: deliberately manipulating. Oh, bred, I'm really sorry that the lab 140 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: bleak has become such a distraction for so many people 141 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: because frankly, we still don't know. There is no evidence 142 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: really to say most of the scientific community, myself included, 143 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: I think that is a possibility, but far more likely 144 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: this was a natural way in which a virus left. 145 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: So so the first few hosts there were actually trying 146 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: out for dumbest cable television host. That's that's that's what 147 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: that was said. So sorry, I have my own COVID 148 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: ruined my wife's life story, so I would tell that briefly. 149 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: So we're in the heat of the the primary campaign and 150 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: what turned into a very very intense campaign, and you know, 151 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: my wife was thirty nine weeks pregnant, so we're, you know, 152 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: very bad at family planning. So my wife, my wife 153 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: gets a COVID and she actually I got for me, 154 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: it was like a mild cold for her. She got 155 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: actually pretty sick, which maybe has something to do with 156 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: the facts she was thirty nine weeks pregnant. Um nine 157 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: days afterwards, she starts going into labor and we called 158 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: the hospital and they said, I'd await another few hours 159 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: because if you come in now, you're gonna have to 160 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: wear the full mask, body gear setup, complete quarantine your 161 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: husband can't be in the room with you, but if 162 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: you wait a few hours, then you've reached the quarantine period. 163 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: This was in December of twenty one, So we ruined. 164 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean, all of us have a crazy COVID story. 165 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: I think mine is better, better than most in other words, 166 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: And there were a lot of people, of course, who 167 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: were prevented seeing loved ones in their final moments, and 168 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: that is heartbreaking. But the failure to be honest about 169 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: this virus with the American people ruined a lot of lives. 170 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: And the fact that they called us conspiracy theorists for 171 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: stating the obvious. I mean, credit to you guys for 172 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: talking about this, credit to Tom Cotton for talking about this. 173 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: But it was I mean, look, there were always two options, right, Like, 174 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: one was a bat that had COVID flew into a 175 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: guy's soup and it sort of wafted into his nose 176 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: and he got human COVID. Or it was possible by 177 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: the way, or it was made two miles down the road. 178 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: In the Wuhan Institute of Virology studied bat coronaviruses. It 179 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: was always the most reasonable baseline assumption. And the fact 180 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: you were censored for it is crazy. And by the way, 181 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: the good news is that cpack is serving bat soup 182 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: for lunch. It's it's it's delicious. So look what JD 183 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: said is exactly right. What are the facts that we 184 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: knew within a couple of months of this pandemic beginning. 185 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: What are the facts we laid out on this podcast? 186 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: Number one, the Wuhan Institute Verbology, which studies viruses, not 187 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: just viruses, studies coronaviruses, not just coronaviruses, studies coronaviruses derived 188 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: from bats. By the way, the bats in question that 189 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: carry these coronaviruses do not occur naturally in Wuhan, China. 190 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: The closest you can find these bats to Wuhan are 191 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: in caves that are nine hundred miles away. Now where 192 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: is the Wuhana Institute Verbology. It is literally a couple 193 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: hundred yards from the wet market where the first outbreak occurred. 194 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: You could drive a golf ball, Well, I couldn't. I 195 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: would not say I could drive the golf ball. You 196 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: could drive it in the golf cart. Yes, through the 197 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: spot of the crime. That's fact number one. Fact number two. 198 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: In November of twenty nineteen, not one, not two. Three 199 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: scientists employees at the Wuhan Institute for Viology checked themselves 200 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: into the hospital with serious illnesses that may well have 201 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: big been the beginning of the pandemic. Fact number three. 202 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: When the pandemic erupted, we discovered that China had been 203 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: stockpiling protective medical equipment several months before the pandemic, and 204 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: China ordered the Wuhan Institute for Viology to destroy the samples. Now, 205 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: look at a court of law, and I'm sorry you 206 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: have two lawyers here. You did something really wrong. In 207 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: a court of law, in a civil case or a 208 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: criminal case, if someone destroys evidence, a judge will instruct 209 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: the jury. You are entitled to draw an inference from 210 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: the destruction of evidence that that evidence was incriminating, that 211 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: there's a reason they destroyed the evidence. In this case, 212 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: it ain't complicated what the reason was that the Chinese 213 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: government said destroy all the samples, we don't want any evidence. 214 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: I think now and then, it was overwhelmingly likely that 215 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: COVID escaped from a Chinese government lab, and I think 216 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: it is significantly more likely than not that it was 217 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: in fact altered in that lab through gain a function 218 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: research that it was a natural virus that they made 219 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: more dangerous, more deadly, and that's why China doesn't want 220 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: culpability for it. And I will say this, if you 221 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: want to know the facts on what's going on on 222 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: this issue and everything else, I want to encourage everyone here, 223 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: take out your cell phone. Take out your cell phone. 224 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: He's not joking. You can take out your cell fone 225 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: and text the word Verdict to two four zero zero five. 226 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: Let me give that to you again. The number is 227 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: two four zero zero five. All right, now, that's awesome. 228 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: Text the word Verdict to two four zero zero five. 229 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: What you will get is a link to subscribe to 230 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: this podcast. We do it three days a week, which, 231 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: to quote your dad, remind you of that. So y'all 232 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: know my dad. This is awesome, by the way, but 233 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: my dad is eighty three, and he points out he says, look, 234 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: don't say subscribe. People are thinking like it's like a 235 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: magazine subscription. You gotta pay for it. No, it's free 236 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: and you get it three days a week. And this 237 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: is we've had now on Verdict, over fifty million downloads. 238 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: We had seven hundred thousand unique viewers last month. We 239 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: are beating CNN every week of the year, which is 240 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: getting easier and easier. I kind of like that. I 241 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: got it's just says Ted Cruise is awesome again and 242 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: again I wrote that this is propaganda. It's one of 243 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: those earlier today that's automatic. Now all right, I want 244 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: to ask you, guys, that's you and I've talked about 245 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: this on the pot before center, But I want to know, 246 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: and I think most people at Seapack would agree. You 247 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: want some accountability, specifically with doctor Fauci. I think there's 248 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people believe you lied to Congress. Is 249 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: there going to be any accountability? And you can keep 250 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: it short, but is there gonna be any accountability for 251 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: him looking saying I did not we did not fund 252 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: getting function research. It was not this wuhan, this was 253 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: it was not the Instuite of orology. He's gone all 254 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: in on this. Will there be any acoonomy because you 255 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: were on the house side as well, he was looking 256 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: and in my opinion, lying to the American people. Look, 257 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: there there should be accountability. It's that simple. I mean, look, 258 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: he clearly Tony Fauci lied under oath, He lied to 259 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: the American people, and it's not just that, he compelled 260 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,239 Speaker 1: and persuaded the FBI to censor information about the pandemic 261 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: as it was unfolding. Yep, he tried to shut down. 262 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: He used his government power to shut down the functioning 263 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: of the First Amendment so that we could not have 264 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: an honest and open debate about where COVID came from 265 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: and what to do about it. And I think it's 266 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: absolutely disgraceful what Tony Fauci did. Now, the question, and 267 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Ted is a much smarter lawyer than I am, is 268 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: if we actually want to say he committed perjury, is 269 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: that Merritt Garland who has to make that decision, which 270 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: I know you met him yesterday. I'm not optimistic that 271 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: Merritt Garland is going to do the right thing here. 272 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: Let's go to Merrick, go ahead, but let's go to 273 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: Bret Garlin after that. So look, amen, that's right, That's 274 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: exactly right. So someone just called out, follow the money 275 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: and the money. Look, doctor Fauci is the most has 276 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: done more damage than any bureaucrat in the history of 277 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: our nation, that's right, and was the highest paid. He 278 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: led policies that destroyed people's lives, that hurt tens of 279 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: millions of kids across this country that destroyed businesses, and 280 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: he lied repeatedly, over and over and over again. Now 281 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: one of the consequences is he elevated politics above science 282 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: and medicine. There has been no person who has done 283 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: more to destroy trust in the scientific and medical community 284 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:41,239 Speaker 1: than doctor Anthony Fauci, who told millions of Americans lies willingly, knowingly, glibly, supremely, arrogantly. 285 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: Should there be an accountability in any sane system, he 286 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: would be prosecuted for lying under oath, and he would 287 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: go to jail for lying under oath to Congress. Now, unfortunately, 288 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: I can quantify with mathematic medical precision the likelihood that 289 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: the Biden Department of Justice will prosecute him, and the 290 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: odds are zero point zero zero zero percent. They will 291 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: not do it. This is a lawless department of Justice. 292 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: Will there be accountability. There will be accountability. Number one. 293 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: We have a majority in the House, and I am 294 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: confident in the House that we're going to use that 295 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: majority and use it to hold doctor Fauci and the 296 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: others who lied accountable. And we need to have hearings 297 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: on the origins of COVID. We need to have hearings 298 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: to follow the money. We need to have hearings examining 299 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: and laying out the facts about how Fauci misled the 300 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: American people and the corruption that drove that. You mentioned 301 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: Garling a second ago. There are some fireworks yesterday on 302 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill, and I want to play a clip of 303 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: you talking with the AG and I'm going to call 304 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: for clip five. Because this was about two systems of 305 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: justice in this country. I think it's very queer. There 306 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: are two systems of justice. You asked them about this. 307 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: Take a look seventy United States marshals. Try again, Has 308 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice brought even a single case under 309 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: this statute? So, yes, no question. It's not a give 310 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: a speech on the other things you did. The job 311 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: of the United States Marshals, it's to defend the lives. 312 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: The answers No, is to defend the lives of the justices, 313 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: and that's our number one priority. They aser, are you 314 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: unwilling to say no? The answers no. You know it's no. 315 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: I know it's no. Everyone in this in this hearing 316 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: room knows it's no. You're not willing to answer a question. 317 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: Have you brought a case under this statute, yes or no. 318 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: Far as I know, we haven't and what we have 319 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: done is defended to the lives of the justices. Marshals, 320 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: how do you decide which criminal statutes the DOJ enforces 321 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: and which one it doesn't? The United States marshals know 322 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: that they have full I recognize you want to give 323 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: a separate speech. Oh, I don't want How do you 324 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: decide which statute you enforce in which ones you don't it? 325 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: Marshals on scene make that determination in light of the 326 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: priority of the marshals do not make a determined nation 327 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: over whether to prosecute you. The Attorney General will make 328 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: a determination. And you spent twenty years of a job, 329 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: and you're perfectly content with justices being afraid for their 330 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: children's lives, and you did nothing to prosecute it. Let's 331 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: can I answer the question? No, you can refuse to answer. 332 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: I am answering your question. General does not decide whether 333 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: to work. How did you choose not to not to 334 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: enforce the statute? The marshals on scene don't make that decision. 335 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: They do make the decision of whether to make them 336 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: arrestcute someone know they don't if they make them, if 337 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: they make it. Marshals do not have prosecutions. They make 338 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: an arrest. Change topics because our time is limited. Yeah, 339 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: it's coffee. How many? How many? So so getting the 340 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: host of podcasts and it's fun for me because I 341 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: know your habits. How many diet doctor peppers did you 342 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: have before you got into that question? Yesterday? Eleven eleven? Okay, 343 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: there we go. So you look at that moment and 344 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: I think it was all encompassing of what the American 345 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: I think, especially conservatives fact you're up against, which is 346 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: there's two systems of justice here. If you're a conservative, 347 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: will come after you with a full strength of all. 348 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: We'll break down doors, will bring people to come after you. 349 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: You know the story of a man and you can 350 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: pick it up from here and remind people of how 351 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: they treat conservatives compared to when you're intimidating judges of 352 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court over issues like Rovway where they're trying 353 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: to flip votes. So look, Merrick Garland, I believe is 354 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: the most partisan and politicized Attorney general our nation has 355 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: ever seen. And what is happening if the Department of 356 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 1: Justices is heartbreaking because it is turned into the political 357 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: weapon for the Democrats to attack their enemies and protect 358 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: their friends. And it is astonishing. Look Garland, he spent 359 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: all day before the Judiciary Committee in testimony. He will 360 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: not answer a straight question at all. And he looks 361 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: at you, number one. You know we were talking about 362 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: Fauci and supreme arrogance. You know Merrick Garland can compete 363 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: in that category with Fauci and that's impressive. You're going 364 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: pro Garland looks at you like, how dare you ask 365 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: me a question? And the guy was a judge for 366 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: twenty four years and you look at that hearing. So 367 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: for example, what we were talking about, as you guys know, 368 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: when the Dabs opinion was released. When it was leaked, 369 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: hundreds of left wing protesters, radical left wing protesters went 370 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: to the homes of six Supreme Court justices and engaged 371 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: in angry, violent protests. And by the way, left wing 372 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: groups were not only giving out the home addresses of justices, 373 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: they were giving where the justices worshiped, what churches they 374 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: went to. They were giving where their kids went to school. 375 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: An angry protesters at your home when your kids are 376 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: sleeping in their bedroom is inherently threatening. There is a 377 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: statute in eighteen USC. Fifteen seventy one that makes it 378 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: a crime, a federal crime, to protest at the home 379 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: of a judge in an effort to influence the outcome 380 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: of a case. It's the same. It's similar to jury temper. 381 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: You can't go to a juror's house and protest to 382 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: try to get a not guilty verdict. This Department of 383 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: Justice refuses to enforce the law. And it was clear 384 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: for that hearing that Merrick Garland's political staff had written 385 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: one sentence, this is your political talking point. The marshals 386 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 1: decide whether or not to arrest someone. That's true. There 387 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: were marshals there and the marshals didn't arrest someone. But 388 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: under our system of justice, marshals are essentially police officers. 389 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: They have zero prosecution authority. The only prosecution authority in 390 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: the federal law is in the Department of Justice with 391 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: the prosecutors. Merrick Garland is the one who made the 392 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: decision we're not going to prosecute here. And by the way, 393 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: these numb nuts put up pictures of themselves on social media, 394 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: we're not talking master criminals that they've confessed to the crime. 395 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: They could be found easily. But Merrick Garland agrees with 396 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: the protesters. He doesn't like the dab's decision. He supports 397 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: ro versus Wade. And what is shocking for someone who 398 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: spent twenty four years as a judge as that he's 399 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: perfectly willing to be complicit with a left wing violent 400 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: mob threatening the lives and families of the justices because 401 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: he supports their political agenda. That is incredibly dangerous. Yeah, 402 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: let's let's take stocks for just a second of who 403 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland has gone after and who he's refused to 404 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: go after. He's gone after a pro life father of 405 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: seven at his home, arrested him like a hardened criminal. 406 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: He's gone after parents peacefully protesting at their children's school 407 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: board meetings. He's had the FBI investigate traditional Catholics as 408 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: being domestic terrorists. And he won't use the Department of 409 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: Justice to go after people who are harassing the children 410 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: of Supreme Court justice. The guy is a disgrace. He 411 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: needs to go. How much you just ran. You're out 412 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: there with the voters, you're talking to them, How how 413 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: concerned and tell a little bit about your story. Matt, 414 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: You're you're what I would refer to as blue car conservative. 415 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: You come in, you run for this thing. How concerned 416 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: are the American people about these type of issues when 417 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: you were talking to them that, Hey, this government that 418 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to trust, it's supposed to protect me for SUPs, 419 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: tect my rights where I'm supposed to be innocent until 420 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: proven guilty or now being accused of things just because 421 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: of politics, and can they can ruin your life? They 422 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: can come in and literally ruin your life. Ye. Look, 423 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: one of the things Ted said when he was out 424 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: on the campaign treol campaigning with me to this blue 425 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: collar conservatism point that I Stoleton. I hope you won't 426 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: mind it, but I'll give you credit though. So borrowing. 427 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: He would talk about how if you look at who's 428 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: voting Republicans, I mean we're the party of soldiers and sailors, 429 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: of nurses, of construction workers, of people who go to work, 430 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: pay their taxes, raise their children, and just want to 431 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: live in safe communities. That is our base right now. 432 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: And I love that right We should be proud of 433 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: that base, and we should be working hard to serve 434 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: that base. And you know, I got to say a 435 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: lot of our elites a lot of the leaders I 436 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: think of the establishment of the Republican Party, they're ashamed 437 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: of our new base. I know, Ted and I are, 438 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: and that's something that's very, very good that's happening in 439 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: our party. It's a great thing. But look, if you 440 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: think about those people, middle class people who go to work, 441 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: they do their thing, They try to just live a 442 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: good life in the country that their parents and grandparents built. 443 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: They know that when the Department of Justice acts unfairly, 444 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: they're the very kind of people who suffer. They know 445 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: that the very thing that makes this country special is 446 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: that whether you're powerful or not, whether you're rich or poor, 447 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: we all have equal justice under law, or at least 448 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: we did until Joe Biden's getting of thugs moved into 449 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: the White House. And let me let me say something 450 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: on that, which is, you know, JD is a brand 451 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: new senator and he's one of the people I am 452 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: incredibly excited that is now a member of the US 453 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: Senate because thank you. As JD mentioned, I campaigned with 454 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: him all over the state of Ohio. He's a hell 455 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: of a candidate. He was powerful and effective on the stump. 456 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: He worked his tail off. But you know, JD's personal 457 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: story is a story that describes who the Republican Party is. 458 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, JD grew up an apple Lasia, grew up 459 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: in working class environments, in rough working class environments, was 460 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: a marine who went to Yale Law School. And I 461 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: will tell you there's a long history of on verdict 462 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: of making fun of Yale University deserved for a long time. 463 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: I did it together, and I tried to make fun 464 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: of Yale on a regular basis. So we're just continuing 465 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: that trend. But as you guys all know, JD wrote 466 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: a New York Times number one bestseller, Hillbilly Elogy, which 467 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: is a fantastic book. It is, actually it's it's probably 468 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: the best explanation. You can combine them at checkout at 469 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: Amazon dot com, just so you know, Justice corrupted this book. 470 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: You can literally put them together. That's yeah. For the record, 471 00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't hockey my own book, right, And while Ted 472 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: talks about how great I am, let's extend the clock 473 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: a little bit. We're running a little time to make 474 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: sure Ted has has plenty of time to go on. Yeah, 475 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: but look what JD did so powerfully because I am 476 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: going to go on is described the pathologies that have 477 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: been just hammering working men and women in this country, 478 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: not even working men and women, people who are not working. 479 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: And whether the the opioid crisis and addiction, the destruction 480 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: of manufacturing jobs, the the the loss of of of 481 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: fathers and at home raising kids. And it is a 482 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: powerful explanation of the damage that's been done. And and 483 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: and it's a really clarion call. I gotta tell you, 484 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, this is no longer the party of the 485 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: country clubs. And there's some of our colleagues in the 486 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: Republican Conference who are really confused who this guy is. 487 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm so excited that he's come. Give 488 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: us your your thoughts on all right, you've been in 489 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: the Senate two months, yep, vacation for three so let's 490 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: you know half of it. We've been on vacation. But 491 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: what do you see as the future of the Republican 492 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: Party as it concerns How are we different from the 493 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: Republican Party of twenty years ago? Yeah, I mean that's 494 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: a that's a that's a big question. I guess the 495 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: way that I think about it is we're the party 496 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: of wage earners, were the party of taxpayers, and we're 497 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: the party of the people who fight and hopefully win 498 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: America's wars. That's really how I think about it, and 499 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: what that means is because because we have a different 500 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: coalition than maybe we had thirty years ago, we got 501 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: to think a little bit about about different issues differently. 502 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: I think the old Republican Party would have maybe seen 503 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: Merritt Garland applying equal justice in our country on equally 504 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: and would have said, well, you know, they're in power. 505 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: The Democrats get to do what they want to do. 506 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: I think you and I are attitude is, Look, if 507 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: we don't stop this, Dennis Tracks, we're gonna lose the 508 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: very thing that makes life livable for our own voters 509 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: and for our own people. It's unacceptable, I think for 510 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: too long. I mean, look, even going back twenty thirty years, 511 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: the Republican Party was okay with trade deals and with 512 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: negotiations with China, most favored nation status with China. That 513 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: destroyed the manufacturing base that, by the way, hollowed out 514 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: our ability to make our own weapons on the national 515 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: security side, but also destroyed a lot of good middle 516 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: class jobs in the state that I came from. We're 517 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: not doing that anymore. We're not playing that game anymore. 518 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: We are the pro America Party, not the pro China party. 519 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: That's changed. And you know, I guess I think the 520 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: final way I think about this is the Democrats approach 521 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: to people who are struggling in the heartland is it's fine, 522 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: if you lose your job, we'll just give you well fair. 523 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: But we believe in the dignity of work and of 524 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: moms and dads supporting their families, and what policies are 525 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: going to make that easier to happen. And I'll tell 526 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: you we're seeing that divide play out. There are lots 527 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: of issues on which the blue collars shift in the 528 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: party is playing out. Immigration is front and center. There 529 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: used to be Chamber of Commerce Republicans that were all 530 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: four open borders because they looked at it and saw 531 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: cheap labor. It's exactly right, and that's not where the 532 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 1: American people are. That's not where the Republican Party should be, 533 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: and that change matters. Look, we saw recently we almost 534 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: had a massive rail strike, and we're almost a massive 535 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: rail strike, and there was a dispute between management and 536 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: the unions and it ended up coming to an impass 537 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: because Biden and Pete Buddha Jedge screwed it all up right, 538 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: and it came to an impass that a lot these days. 539 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: But the assumptions was kick it to Congress and Congress 540 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: will rule with management and that'll be it. And I 541 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: got to tell you, and it was the Biden administration 542 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: that was pressing to overturn what the unions wanted. The 543 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: unions wanted paid sickly. Actually, the rule and the railroads 544 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: was if you wanted sick leave, you had to put 545 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: in for it several days in advance, which is really 546 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: helpful if you know, hey, I'm planning to get sick 547 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: next Wednesday. Like, I'm not sure exactly how that works. 548 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: And so I looked at it, and my first view is, 549 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: why is Congress getting in the middle of it. This 550 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: ought to be freely negotiative between management and the unions. 551 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: We have no business getting in the middle and resolving it. 552 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: And so initially we had a vote to delay and 553 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: give them more time to negotiate a mutually agreed upon solution. 554 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: That vote was rejected, and so at the end of 555 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: the day there were a handful of us that said 556 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: the heck with us and voted with the workers because 557 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: I thought the workers demands were We're really reasonable, and 558 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: I said, look, we're not a rubber stamp for what 559 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: management wants. That is a new dynamic in the Republican 560 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: Party and I think JD being there is a big 561 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: part of getting it viscerally, which is something we need 562 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: going forward. And I got to say also, everyone here 563 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: is is horrified at the derailment and niece Palastine and 564 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: j D has been fantastic going back there on leadership. Yeah, 565 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: like thank you going back there. You know, he went 566 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: and did a video of him poking water with a 567 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: stick and all sorts of crazy scary crap game up 568 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, Joe Biden completely a wall Pete 569 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: buddhagg What the hell does this guy gotta do to 570 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: get fired? Like like at this point, it's it's it's 571 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: a bar game, Like what else could he do? And 572 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: I gotta say, JD standing up. And the Democrats don't 573 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: give a damn about East Palestine because it's it's a 574 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: blue collar, red, red place and they're like, to hell 575 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: with you. If you were a bunch of transgender tech workers, 576 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: you'd have the entire Biden cabinet down there for a 577 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: listening session and sit in to feel their pain. But Jad, 578 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: and by the way, Jad alongside Donald Trump, came there 579 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: and guilted the administration and that was powerful assent. I've 580 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: never said this, by the way, in the podcast before 581 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: you guys have a vote coming up that you're about 582 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: to head off to see. The nice thing is Ben 583 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: being a radio guys. He's very docile, so that we 584 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: have screens up here that say please rest wrop up. 585 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: We're just accoring it. Look right, we're having fun. I 586 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: like that you're raised for this. All right. I will 587 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: ask last question, and I'm sure Matt's not gonna fire 588 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: me over this. I will ask one last question. I 589 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: think it's important one. What does the Republican Party need 590 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: to do over the next two years to unify and 591 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: find good candidates? And the reason why I say this 592 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: is the Democratic Party is very unified right now. Yeah, 593 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: they are so unified they will elect a dead guy 594 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania on purpose, and they will elect Fetterman, who 595 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: clearly they took advantage of. I think that's evil what 596 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: they did to him, in my opinion. And you look 597 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: at what where Biden is right now. If he is 598 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: their guy, which I have every I expect him to 599 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: be their guy. As long as he has a heartbeat, 600 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: they'll vote him in. That's how unify the Air as 601 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: a party right now, which is scary. But what does 602 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: the Concerted Movement need to do for the next two years? Quickly? 603 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: Let me offer five views, because I just came off 604 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: an election, and look, the thing that I was really 605 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: caught off guard by when I won my primaria is that, yes, 606 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: some arms of the establishment said, maybe this wasn't our 607 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: number one choice, but look he won, and we need 608 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: to keep the seat red, and so we're going to 609 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: support JD. Vans. There are a lot of folks in 610 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: the establishment win when they don't get their preferred candidate, 611 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: who whine, who will not help, who will not lift 612 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: a finger to help candidates, And look, they're gonna be 613 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: a lot of candidates that win Republican primaries that aren't 614 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: going to be my first choice, that maybe you know, 615 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more moderate than I am, a little 616 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: bit more established than I am, who cares when you 617 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: have a candidate win the primary, we've all got to 618 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: get on board and support him from the president on down. 619 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: No more whining from the establishment, Let's help our candidates 620 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: win and look. To be very clear, the DC establishment 621 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: basically abandoned the Senate candidate in Arizona, basically abandoned the 622 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: Senate candidate in New Hampshire, and that was disgraceful. We 623 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: need to win and that means getting behind people who 624 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: are ready to fight and taking it seriously. I support 625 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: the strongest Conservative who can win, and we need to win. 626 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: We need to take back the Senate, we need to 627 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: grow our majority in the House, and we need to 628 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: send Joe Biden back to his beach house in Della 629 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: Amen that there it is. Thank you guys for being 630 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: here at Seapac being all verdict. Make sure you down 631 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: woant it will see you soon.