1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty Armstrong and Jettie and he 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: arms range live from studio. See see they are a 5 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: dimly lit room where deep within the bowels of the 6 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty Communications compound, I'm telling you the bowels. 7 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: And so they were toiling under under the title of 8 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: the show, ayatola, we need to talk or from the DHS, 9 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: already your weasels. So the first title had kind of 10 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: a sympathetic kind sound to it. In the second udium 11 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: shouting that's my art right there, that is your sure 12 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 2: is your. 13 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 3: Range on display. 14 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like the great now I can't think 15 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 4: of his name, the old Shakespearean actor hat He'll get 16 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: an old folks. I'll tell you what, sir, Sir Lawrence Olivier. 17 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: There you go. You were very much like that. 18 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: I could have gone with virtually any actor. I can 19 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: picture the guy anyway. 20 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: Where were we a yes, the first one, I totally 21 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: can we talk? Who are we talking to? Are we 22 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: talking to somebody? We need to talk? Yes, yes, I 23 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: believe we are. 24 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: I'm absolutely convinced that I have the evidence, the specifics. 25 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: I stayed up all night, traveled to the Middle East, 26 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 4: interviewed a number of world leaders, and we have the 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: truth for you. 28 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: So stay tuned for that. Appreciate you doing that traveling, 29 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: and no worry. My favorite uh thinking on this I 30 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: heard yesterday was so far Trump's not moved any military 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: assets anywhere and then didn't use them. So this is 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: just kind of stalling until all those marines get there, 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: and then we are gonna do a full on boots 34 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: on the ground, amphibious landing, take the island, secure the strait, 35 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: et cetera. Here in a couple unless we get some 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: serious concessions and a means by which to enforce them, 37 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: because Iran is just legendarily dishonest. In the moment they 38 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: shake your hand and leave the room, they start cheating, 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: and that will be something because if we do that, 40 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: that is going to be definitely the biggest military ground 41 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: operation in a quarter century. So we'll see how that 42 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: all turns out. How y'all doing good, glad to hear it. 43 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, super duper well. I can't wait 44 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: for every individual person to text your email. I assume 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: everybody's either said, it's a combination. I can hear the 46 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: the the people all across the country listening to the 47 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: show either saying I'm fine or you know I've been 48 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: or boy, don't don't get me started. And then they 49 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: get some long list that they always have litany of 50 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: problems and the dish they're the you know, sure, oh, 51 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: I know who wants to hear them. 52 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: Here's a name I can remember, Fred Rogers, that had 53 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: a very Fred Rogers, mister Rogers neighborhood. 54 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: Hey, kids, how are you? They had a very nice 55 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: welcoming feel to us. That's your art on display. Yeah, 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: so the Iran was bombing the but Jesus out of 57 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: Israel last night. Yeah, and I think they've struck their 58 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: struck upon their their magic weapon that seems to be 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: working as the cluster bombs. For whatever reason they fire, 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: they fire in those rockets. They got cluster bombs attached 61 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: to them, and the defense system can't knock them all out, 62 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: and a lot of those are getting through and hurting 63 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: people and blowing stuff up and everything like that. That 64 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: could be a major change for where we are in 65 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: the war. Also, yeah, the whole cluster bomb thing is 66 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: another proof of how international law is a suggestion because 67 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: as soon as countries need to violate it, do Yeah, 68 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: that's theoretically out of bounds. Yeah, that's a war crime. 69 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: And then when you first do it, people say you 70 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: can't do that to a war crime. And then you 71 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: just keep doing it, and everybody says, oh, I guess 72 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: there's nothing much wing it new about it because they've 73 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: been firing them off now for a week. Tweet angrily 74 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: about it. That's what you can do, yeah, or complain 75 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: to the Hague. So that's something. 76 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: I noticed. 77 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: The media is perfectly happy going with the treating Iran 78 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: when they say, well darn he talks, it's fake news, 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: as if that's a legitimate news source, giving the same 80 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: heft as the White House's statements, the Begon statements. 81 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 5: The weakness, stupidity, evil, self hatred of so much for 82 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 5: media cannot be overstated. 83 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: It's a disease in the body politic, truly is. 84 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: I cherish the amendment. The only way to deal with 85 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: it is to call it out and shame them, help 86 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: people understand what's happening. The difficulty being obviously they have 87 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: the megaphone, right, you are going to run around, You're 88 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: on alternate media. Yes, you're going to run down who 89 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 2: we're actually talking to negotiat the whole structure of it. 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: I'm completely convinced it's legit. Yeah, okay, so that's one 91 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 4: step of it. So if it's it is legit and 92 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 4: we are talking to people, what's your level of optimism 93 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 4: that something happens. 94 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: I was just reading Mark Helprin's newsletter this morning, and 95 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: his optimism and everybody he talks to is quite low 96 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 2: than anything negotiated is going to happen in time soon. Yeah. Yeah, 97 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: I think as usual when you're dealing with the moullas 98 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: in the I r gc iran in short, barely. 99 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 4: Well, extremely cautious, barely optimism is the only way to 100 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 4: go in. 101 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: And that's that's where I am right now. You know, 102 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: all right, you come up with something great, let me know. 103 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: But I'm not holding my breath, you know. I was 104 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: looking for something to uh, there's a distraction to read 105 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: about this morning, and I was just reading Halt, there's 106 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: just no way anybody's going to stop the Dodgers from 107 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: three beating as the Major League Baseball season's about to start. 108 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: So I didn't find that to be good news. I'm 109 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: not a Dodgers man. I know a lot of you 110 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: probably are. But there's no stopping the Dodgers from damn it. 111 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: They are the Hedgemon, the superpower that cannot be defeated. 112 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: They are They are the United States of Major League Baseball. 113 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: Of course, the United States just lost to Venezuela in 114 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: a contest of countries. 115 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, so they're the Venezuela of No, that 116 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: was that was That was just it's fun. 117 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: It's fun to watch baseball. That's not sure. Venezuela is 118 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: not the best baseball country on Earth. No way, they 119 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: wouldn't beat the Dodgers, which might have several Venezuelans on it. 120 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 121 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, almost certainly, yeah, no. If we had no restrictions 122 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: on who was pitching when, for instance, and these weren't 123 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 4: zillionaires in their teams, were like, oh god, please don't 124 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: get hurt, Please don't get hurt, and it was an 125 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 4: all out effort. No, we would wipe up the floor 126 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: with them. They would like in a seven game series, 127 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: they would win a game or two, but we would 128 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: beat them consistently. 129 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: We should start the show. 130 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: Officially, I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Joe Getty on how did 131 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: this already get to be? Tuesday March twenty fourth, year, 132 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, were armstrong and getting we approve of 133 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: this program. 134 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: Let's begin then officially according to FCC rules and regulations, 135 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: here we go at mark. 136 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 6: We have of major points of agreement. I would say 137 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 6: almost all points of agreement. Perhaps that hasn't been conveyed. 138 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 6: The communication, as you know, has been blown to pieces. 139 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 6: They were unable to talk to each other. We're doing 140 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 6: a five day period. We'll see how that goes, and 141 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 6: if it goes well, we're gonna end up with settling this. 142 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 6: Otherwise we just keep bombing our little hearts out. 143 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: That lacked compassion. 144 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know, bombing our little hearts out. Man. 145 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: He is rolling the ice on his whole legacy on 146 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: this thing. And there's no doubt about it. This is 147 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: going to be the legacy of Donald Trump as president. 148 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: Could all the other stuff, all the noise. Hanson and 149 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: I were talking about this yesterday, how it seems like 150 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: Trump has been president for three and a half years 151 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: this second term. It's actually a year and two months. 152 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: In a couple of days, because just so much you know, 153 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: not only do they do so much, just the coverage 154 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: is so intense. It just seems like it's been a 155 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: lot longer. But all of the stuff that he's ever 156 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: done could be wiped out in terms of looking at 157 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: him through an historical lens by what's gonna happen in 158 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: Iran over the next couple of weeks. It is to 159 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: return to baseball a home run swing, for sure, And 160 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: I would argue in a lot of folks, reasonable folks 161 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: would argue, it's a swing that had to be made. 162 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: The idea of negotiated coexistence with Iran it was just 163 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: plays the clock ran out on that ages ago. 164 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: I don't understand why. 165 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: You get credit as you know, three other presidents in 166 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: a row, three or four other presidents in a row 167 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: saying Iran will not get a nuclear weapon, but you 168 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: weren't actually willing to do anything to stop them saying it. 169 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: I guess it makes you sound tough, but you weren't 170 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: actually going to stop them, right. I'm old enough to 171 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: have remembered many presidents saying that about North Korea. Then 172 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: they got one. I don't fault you know, a Bush 173 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: or Obama for going the route of diplomacy to try 174 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: to work something out. I think the Obama deal was awful, 175 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: but I think you try that first, and you know, 176 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: after they screw you for the third, fourth, seventh time, 177 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: then you bring out the hammer. But nobody's been wanting 178 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: to bring out the hammer till Trump. Well, the hammer 179 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: is out. So Katie has one of my favorite headlines 180 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: I've ever heard, Oh wow coming up in her headlines. 181 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: It's not important, but it is darned interesting. Hey, I 182 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 2: don't want to end on a downer note, but I 183 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: want to get this out of the way for loyal listeners. 184 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: Judy and I had to say goodbye to our dog 185 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: Baxter this past weekend on Saturday, very sad. His illnesses 186 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: were progressing to the point that the next chapter would 187 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: be really, really hard on him, and we didn't want that. 188 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: He's thirteen and a half. He's closer to fourteen than 189 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 2: thirteen as a large breed dog. And again, very very sad. 190 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: But you know, I got some great advice from the 191 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: Claude AI thing and then a super compassionate and great 192 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: vet and so yeah, on we go. He is a 193 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: fabulous pump and sympathy to everybody. Just had to go 194 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 4: through that thing. But you know, better to have loved 195 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 4: and lost than never loved at all, as the Bard said. 196 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: And that's one thing about pets is we outlived them. Yeah, yeah, 197 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: lots of them. 198 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: But you know, it actually made me start thinking about 199 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,479 Speaker 4: the idea of immortality and how a lot of philosophers 200 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,239 Speaker 4: it will never have happened, but a lot of philosophers 201 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: think that would that would make us insane. It's it 202 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: is the limited shelf life of life that gives it 203 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: its beauty. 204 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: If you could live forever, I think you'd get out 205 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: of bed in the morning. Yeah yeah. 206 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: And and so you know the fact that Backseya wasn't 207 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: gonna be around forever made us, you know, all the 208 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: more fond of him. So, life, what are you gonna do? 209 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: And uh, as Leonardo DiCaprio says in the Oscar Winning picture, 210 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: one battle at a time, one one battle after another, 211 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: whatever it is life? Yes, well I've adopted that as 212 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: something to say in of stress life. 213 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 3: Claude gave you. 214 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: You got some advice from Claude in the whole situation though, 215 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: that's I fed like all le info and what was 216 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: happening and and uh and and it was remarkably wise 217 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: and knowledgeable. Wow, and I know how those things work. 218 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: It went and found yeah, wise and knowledgeable stuff, but 219 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 2: it was it was very helpful. 220 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 221 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: And they put it together in a really impressive way 222 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: lots of times, and then sometimes amazingly poorly for some reason. 223 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 4: But one more side topic. It would say things like 224 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: and you know, I don't want to go too far 225 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 4: into this or I'll get choked up, but it would like, 226 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: really pay me compliments. 227 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: About my compassion and love. And I'm like, you're an 228 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: efing machine, you know. Uh, this is weird. This is 229 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: weird because I'm starting to feel like we're really getting 230 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: close over having a really hard discussion together turning test exactly. 231 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like, this, you're weird in me ill, Yeah, 232 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: why do they even try to do that? I think, well, 233 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: it's endearing even to a cynic like me. Yeah, And 234 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: so I think the vast majority of people find probably 235 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: find it comforting. 236 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 4: And it said, you know, let me know how things 237 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: turn out if you'd like, and I'm like, okay, I will. 238 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. That's a server who 239 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: has claude entropic server in some building that entropic owns 240 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: is not sitting around waiting for me to call it. 241 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had that feeling before. 242 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: It's like, oh yeah, I owe a response to you know, 243 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: let him know what happened. 244 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, rock know how this turned out? 245 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: Well, Now Judy goes out of town. Joe, you have 246 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: a friend, Yeah, yeah, you're in throw. What do you 247 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: want to do today? Oh my god, it's a nice day. 248 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: What would you like to do? 249 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try that time. I'd say. We got Katie's 250 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: headlines on the way next day here, and while we're 251 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: all talking about war, a lot of people are not 252 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 2: paying any attention to it and worried mostly about their economics. 253 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: And the polling on that for the current administration is 254 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: really really bad. 255 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 4: Definitely part of the stew of the legacy that we're discussing. 256 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 2: Probably get to that an ho or two. Yeah, let's 257 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie. 258 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 7: Green and Katie all the alphabet networks are talking about Iran, ABC, 259 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 7: Iranian missiles damage, tel Aviv, AMID reported peace talks, NBC 260 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 7: Iran attacks, Israel and Gulf States plays down Trump peace 261 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 7: talks claim, and CNN mixed signals on Iran talks as 262 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 7: war rages on and oil prices climb back to over 263 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 7: one hundred dollars. 264 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: I feel like there's a real possibility that Iran just 265 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: starts getting lots of rockets through in Israel, and then 266 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: that becomes a major part of this story. Next segment, 267 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: the best analysis of the Iran conflict that you have heard, 268 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: not just us pat on back, but some great stuff 269 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: we've come across. 270 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 7: Stay with us from the Washington Post. Senate confirms Mullen 271 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 7: as Homeland Security Secretary. 272 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: There you go, He's gonna beat you up if you 273 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: don't agree with the. 274 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 7: CBS DSA weight lines di wretch up to six hours 275 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 7: as ice another Homeland Security agents deployed to fourteen airports. 276 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: How do all these people need to get where they're going? 277 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: What is your Are you going to get a liver? 278 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: I mean, what is your trip that you're taking? Funny, 279 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: you read my mind? Anything south of liver transplant. I'm 280 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: not making the trip. 281 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 7: I have a trip planned for this weekend that I 282 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 7: am canceling because I'm not doing it. 283 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. If it's if 284 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: it's just. 285 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: A pleasure trip, which most trips are. 286 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: I think for people or a six hour wait. Yeah, 287 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: we're running out of time, but the ice guys are 288 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: really helping it. A lot of airports, so check, you know, 289 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: see see how it is now. But anyway, that's you. 290 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 7: Wall Street Journal America's chief financial officers say AI is 291 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 7: coming for administration jobs. 292 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah I read that. If you're a secretary, run for 293 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: your life. Oh jeez, here we go, Jack from the 294 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: New York Post. Listen to this headline. Quadruple amp. 295 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 7: Professional cornhole player allegedly shot and killed an acquaintance during 296 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 7: an argument and then drove. 297 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: Off with the body. 298 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: There you go. 299 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm sorry. Was that the headline or was that 300 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: the entire article was headline? Was that the whole movie? Wow? 301 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: There's a lot there. Quad with this for live team coverage. 302 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: Quadruple amputee corn hole champion murders, someone drives off with 303 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: the body. I have so many questions. 304 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: Well we'll have the answers later. 305 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 7: Study fines teams are self diagnosing ADHD and autism from TikTok. 306 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,479 Speaker 7: Much of what they're watching is misleading. 307 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, Well that's the Chinese Communist Party's propaganda weapon. TikTok. 308 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 7: Right, and finally the Babylon Bee quote. Fear not, says 309 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 7: Chuck Norris to calm trembling angels. 310 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: I have discovered finally the loving tribute to Chuck Norris. 311 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 4: I've been looking for. 312 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: Okay, cool. 313 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 2: He was an amazing guy, okay, and super admirable in 314 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: a lot of ways. And if you still have a 315 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: limb left and you're a corner hole champion and murdered somebody, 316 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: we're not interested in your story. No, we have a 317 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: better one up your game. 318 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: Your sucks. 319 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff on the way we promised, they hear 320 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: Armstrong and getty. 321 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 7: He said, there's many points of agreement with Iron right now, 322 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 7: what can you give. 323 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 6: Us, like fifteen points? Fifteen points? Yes, well, they're not 324 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 6: gonna have a nuclear weapon. 325 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 3: That's number one. 326 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: That's number one, two and three. 327 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: They will never have a nuclear weapon. 328 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: Yes, they agreed to that. So you're talking to a guy, 329 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: but not. 330 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 3: The top guy, not the supreme leader. 331 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 6: Now, not the supreme leader, but the people that. 332 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: Seem to be running it. 333 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: Again running it or seem to be running it. It's 334 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: a big difference. Hey, where's our car? Oh? I gave 335 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 2: it to the guy who seems to be the vallet. Yeah, 336 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: Jack standing by the curb seemed like a top guy, 337 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: and he did take the car. 338 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: You know, that was less cynical and more funny than 339 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: I expected it to be. 340 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: I hadn't heard that somebody. I saw video once who 341 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: broke down John Oliver how every joke is structured the same, 342 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: with the same inflections and stuff like that, and it 343 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 2: ruined it for me. John Stewart has that rhythm too. 344 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, So for a couple of different reasons that 345 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: maybe we can speculate about. The Wall Street Journal has 346 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: unbelievable coverage and insight and analysis of the conflict right now, 347 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: and you know, the go to live coverage international blah 348 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: blah blah, usually the New York Times. I wonder if 349 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: the journal which has an unbelievable exclusive on the negotiations 350 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: which you're about to hear, I wonder if it's because 351 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: all the Gulf state leaders read it. Could be the 352 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: New York Times does have an article just broke. The 353 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: MBS is pushing Trump hard behind closed doors to keep 354 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: it going. Take out the regime, don't stop until the 355 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: regime is gone. And it might be for the reason 356 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: you just said, because they're business titans, right, exactly. 357 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: So, according to the journal, let's see, it's a big 358 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 4: team of writers. Foreign ministers from Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, 359 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 4: and Pakistan gathered before dawn Thursday in Riad, Saudi for 360 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 4: talks aimed at finding a diplomatic off ramp for the 361 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: war in Iran. There was one big problem, according to 362 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: Arab officials involved in the discussions, finding a counterpart in 363 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 4: Iran to negotiate with. Yeah, because we told you on 364 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 4: Stuart's point, Yeah, exactly. Earlier that week, Israel killed Duran's 365 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 4: nationtional security chief Ali Laurie Johnny, who was a monster 366 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: who had been considered a viable partner who could engage 367 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 4: with the West when he wasn't machine gunning his own 368 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 4: people in the streets or torturing them to death. Hanging 369 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 4: out that part exactly, Yeah, hanging young men to death 370 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 4: for being on a street corner near a protest. Anyway, 371 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: Egyptian of intelligence officials managed to open a channel with 372 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 4: the Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Core of the Ergy see, 373 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: the paramilitary group that protects the Iranian regime and is 374 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 4: the country's most powerful security and political entity and put 375 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 4: forward a proposal to halt hostilities for five days to 376 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 4: build confidence for a ceasefire. Some of the officials said 377 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: the discussions lay the groundwork for an abrupt reversal more 378 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 4: than seven thousand miles away at mar A Lago, where 379 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 4: the President said, Hey, that forty eight hour thing, you know, 380 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: obliterating their power plants and all. So we discussed yesterday. 381 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: Now we're going to give it five days and do 382 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 4: a little talking, and it would appear. Yeah, the negotians 383 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: or negotiations are absolutely going on. Caroline Leavitt yelled at 384 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 4: everybody as she does everything. These are sensitive diplomatic discussions 385 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 4: in the US. Will not negotiate through the press. This 386 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 4: is a fluid situation, and speculation about meetings should not 387 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 4: be deemed as final until they are formally announced by 388 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: the White House. 389 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: Well, sometimes I've read so much about this sort of 390 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: stuff over so many years you have. I mean, it's 391 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: just the nature of the beast. You have no idea 392 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: what's going on, and you won't know what went on 393 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 2: in some cases for a quarter of a century. I 394 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: know that rubs us the wrong way in a democracy, 395 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: and we're supposed to have transparency and all that sort 396 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: of stuff. But it's just a fact you don't you 397 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: don't get the details of these things or know what 398 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: was going on oftentimes for years. Right, So the cable 399 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: news crowd speculating that Trump just completely made it up 400 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 2: that there are no negotiations. 401 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: What's the point of that. 402 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's to satisfy your viewer who hates Trump, I guess. 403 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: But pander, Yeah, they're pandering. Yeah, but yeah, the best 404 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: we can do is like looking through keyhole at a big, 405 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: a giant ballroom. You get glimpses, but that's it. 406 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 4: Hey, to that point, there was an Iranian American I 407 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 4: think she's an Iranian American, she's of on heritage, who 408 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 4: was on Morning Joe, and they were trying to get 409 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: her to say, now, Trump's a liar, there are no 410 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 4: negotiations going on. Of course, to Pander fifty four Michael, 411 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 4: here's what she said. 412 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 8: I would not believe that Ranian regime and never I 413 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 8: am never. In all the work I've ever done in 414 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 8: their own regime, they do nothing but lie through their teeth. 415 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 8: So I don't believe that when they say that there 416 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 8: are no talks because they're supporters, which are twenty percent 417 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 8: of the country want to see the regime pummel. 418 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: The United States and Israel. 419 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 8: So yeah, I believe talks are happening, and I think 420 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 8: Trump is leaving. 421 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: I was watching that live and that went against the 422 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: narrative that they were running on MSNBC and MSNBC that 423 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: Trump just made all this up to make the markets react. 424 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: And they had this Middle Eastern expert Iranian reporter who said, no, no, 425 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: I don't believe the Iranian regime at all. I believe 426 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: there are negotiations going on. No, okay, sorry about that, 427 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: but she won't be on again. This reminds me a 428 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: lot if you were listening a couple of years ago. 429 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: I went on this Monock began kick as we all do. 430 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: It's a stage. We all go through former Prime Minister 431 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: of Israel, and I read his autobiography and then a 432 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: biography about him. But he was condemned by the world 433 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: when he took out a raq's nuclear weapon program in 434 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: the early eighties. Iraqs Sadam Mussin was going to try 435 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 2: to get a nuke and nobody was doing anything, so 436 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: Israel took it out. Monocka began made the call on 437 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: that and condemned by everybody harshly, including by the United States, 438 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: and behind the scenes we're all seeing Thank god, somebody 439 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: did it and eventually gave him the Presidential Medal of 440 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: Freedom many many years later. I think this is that 441 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: sort of thing with Trump taken out Iran. Anybody who 442 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: that is making noises about, oh, this is belligerent and 443 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: something or other either behind the scenes, as we mentioned 444 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: the New York Times saying NBA because their official statement 445 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: is we believe in peace and regimes are what is 446 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: that word they always use that sovereign, they get to 447 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: do what they want and blah blah, blah, blah blah. 448 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: But behind the scenes are saying, go get them, don't 449 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: stop until they're all gone. These are monsters. 450 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 4: And as far as what those folks are saying, Arab 451 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 4: mediators privately express skepticism that the US and Iran could 452 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: quickly reach an agreement, noting that the two sides remain 453 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 4: far apart. But Trump, of course, the great salesman, the 454 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: preemptive closed guy, is announcing that we're almost there. 455 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: We will have a deal. 456 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: Only you know, there's no way it can be screwed up, 457 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: So we'll have to say. 458 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: To be fair to our Trump hating listeners, of which 459 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: we have some. If you go around saying things that 460 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 2: aren't true on a regular basis, it does get people 461 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: more license to be skeptical when you come out and 462 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: say you've got negotiations going on. Oh yeah, virtually everything 463 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: Trump says. I think that might be wholly false, that 464 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: might be half true, that might be entirely true, And 465 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: you just don't know. You have to wait and see 466 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: some more terrific analysis. This headline will tell you enough 467 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: Gulf State's edge toward joining fighting against Iran. 468 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 3: Wow, that would be a big deal. 469 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 4: The bases, the finances, the actual weaponry. 470 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: It's getting closer to that point. Great analysis. Maybe we'll 471 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: get into this later. By Walter Russell Meade, Hawks and 472 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 2: Doves got Iran wrong. The war turns out to be 473 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: both harder and more necessary than the two sides expected. 474 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: That sounds about right. 475 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Hawks underestimated how hard this would be. Every 476 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: Dove's single war that has ever been launched, Every single 477 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: war that has ever been launched, turned out to be 478 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: harder than the people who launched it thought it was 479 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: going to be. I don't know why that is, but 480 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: it's just a fact nature of the base. Yeah, one 481 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: hundred percent right. And he also writes the result is 482 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 2: a war that is more necessary than Dove's thought, and 483 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: he goes into detail and harder to wage than the 484 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 2: Hawks supposed. I heard like that sort of analysis. Heard 485 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: some great quote from Napoleon last week that addressed that 486 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: whole thing, and he was very real politic about it. 487 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: Was some way, you gotta you kind of gotta gotta 488 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: start the war to see how difficult it's going to be. 489 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: Something like that. 490 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: Wow, because you just you don't know, huh. The headline 491 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: in the New York Times, the article I've been talking about, 492 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 2: Saudi Prince is pushing Trump to continue Iran war. Prince 493 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: MBS sees a historic opportunity to remake the region and doesn't. 494 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: Want Trump to stop before it's over. 495 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 2: It definitely is an historic opportunity to completely the region. 496 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: Could be completely different. It could end up being like 497 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: going to you know, go on vacation, hit Italy, France 498 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 2: and Germany while you're on vacation. Will I be able 499 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: to do that in the Middle East soon? Oh, it's 500 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: a beautiful dream. Will it be fantastic? And a lot 501 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: of those Arab states really really want that they aren't 502 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: building these big, giant, gleaming cities to hide them from 503 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: the world. No. 504 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: No, Indeed, a couple more headlines that again we can 505 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 4: dig into in more detail down the road. But not 506 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 4: losing has different meanings for Iran and the US, and 507 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 4: Gerard Baker gets into the fact that with asymmetrical warfare 508 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 4: you got a giant superpower that's really undefeatable with you know, 509 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: conventional warfare. But then you got, you know, a terrorist 510 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: regime like Iran. All they have to do is survive 511 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 4: to win. They don't care about human losses, they don't 512 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 4: care particularly about their economy or whatever. 513 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: All they have to do is survive. Then they can 514 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: start to rebuild and kill the infidels more and go 515 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: back to trying to get a bomb, which is the 516 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 2: difficulty of being the big power in asymmetrical warfare. And 517 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,239 Speaker 2: then it does have to be a bit of a 518 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 2: catch twenty two too, is what John Stewart was kind 519 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: of pointing out. When you take out to the entire 520 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: leadership and everybody beneath them, you want you to negotiate 521 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: for a settlement, which of us is supposed to negotiate 522 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: with you. I don't know if they'll listen to me 523 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: if I say we've made an agreement, so I'm happy 524 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 2: to talk. I've never been to Riod, but uh, yeah, 525 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. Then, final bit of analysis. 526 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 4: This is from the Journal's editorial board, and I want 527 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 4: to hammer this whole thing. The headline's a question, is 528 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 4: two hundred billion dollars too much to win a war? 529 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 4: Republicans backed Biden on Ukraine, but Democrats balk on Iran, And. 530 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll hit you with some of this right now. 531 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: So the Trump administration is about to ask Congress for 532 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: two hundred billion dollars for the US military and ONQ 533 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: come the snipers. The number is too big or the 534 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: Iran fight isn't worth it, but the war is exposing 535 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: pre existing US military vulnerabilities, and the President's job is 536 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: not merely restocking arsenals but preparing US forces to deter 537 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: the next war. 538 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 4: And they call out a couple of Democrats, Reuben Diego 539 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: of Arizona and the execrable Row of California, who I 540 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: want to pants later in the show for his utter 541 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: just he's an evil person hants it. But anyway, metaphorically, 542 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: and Richard Blumenthal, the King of Stolen valor, has come 543 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: out at this point, I would oppose that supplement of 544 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 4: two hundred billion dollars, but only a couple of news 545 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 4: cycles ago, Blumenthal told CNN that he worried the war 546 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 4: would be a setback for Ukraine. We've been told again 547 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 4: and again, one reason we can't provide interceptors for the 548 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: Patriots systems or other munitions for Ukraine is that they're 549 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 4: in really short supply. 550 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: But replenishing the weapons stocks is exactly what the administration's 551 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: asking the money for that point. So it's it's rearming 552 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: our military. And so they're so desperate and obsessed with 553 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: Trump not having any sort of win. Do they hate 554 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: him so much they might weaken our military for the 555 00:29:53,000 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: next generation and leave us with the low stocks. Anyway, 556 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: Can anybody get past partisanship at this point or Trump 557 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: de arrangement syndrome? Look, Trump's flawed, He's got plenty of falts. 558 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: I'll lisdom for you if you want, But by God, 559 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: if that infects and ruins your desire to protect the 560 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: country and fund the military, you're a sick bastard. Go 561 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: live in France. Man the coverage on this story is 562 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: gonna change a lot, like Friday or whenever. If the 563 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: Marines all of a sudden, are you know, getting off 564 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: of boats like it's saving Private Ryan and running up 565 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: on the carg Island. Yeah, that's gonna be something. That's 566 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: gonna be a whole different story at that point. Okay, 567 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: we've got mail bag on the way. 568 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: Next day. 569 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: Here a bunch of women at a fancy restaurant in 570 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: Los Angeles yesterday got into a beef over who owed 571 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: what when the bill came and started stabbing each other. 572 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 4: Well, that's how fascinated quickly that I do enjoy beef. 573 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 4: Here's your freedom loving quotes of the day, sort of 574 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 4: sent along by Barry in Thailand quite helpfully. Two quotes 575 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: regarding a certain part of the world. One Iran has 576 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: never won a war or lost in negotiation. Two from 577 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 4: the Taliban. Americans have the watches, but we have the time. 578 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 4: As they said famously, I want to get back to 579 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 4: negotiating with an Iran in a minute in the war. 580 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: But first mail bag A slightly different topic, slightly completely 581 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 4: different topic. 582 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: I played this yesterday. It is at a hearing Title 583 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: nine hearing at the California Institute of Well, it's their 584 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: school sports department for the state of California. This is 585 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: a clip of the year candidate. Indeed, this is a 586 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: professor from a state university. 587 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: Idea that I have to get up here and say 588 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: that trans women are women and that's what I have 589 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: to use my time to do is absurd. Shame on you, 590 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: Shame on all of you, and shame on you for 591 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: using lesbian politics as a front for your transphobia. Because 592 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: this lesbian has had plenty of girlfriends with penises. 593 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: Really, like, that's an insane person. 594 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so, Alnanymous writes. 595 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: Ten years ago. If I go up to a this 596 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: is a medical professional. By the way, if I go 597 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: up to a same sex attracted man and tell him 598 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: he should just be attracted to women without penises too, 599 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: that would be bad in the modern year. If I 600 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: try and dictate what is okay for you to be 601 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: attracted to I'm a transphobe asking for a friend. Anyway. 602 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's it's a lunatic, neo Marxist cult. It's 603 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 4: not supposed to make sense. It's supposed to confuse you 604 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 4: into silence. Moving along, let's see you know as much 605 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 4: as they do. Anita writes, the leadership is dead. The 606 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 4: gay ietola is at best in a coma. The president 607 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 4: of Iran's just to figure ued, not talking to anyone 608 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 4: else in leadership. The head of the air force is dead, 609 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: the head of the navy's dead, the head of the 610 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 4: secret place is dead, the head of the besiege is dead. 611 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 4: The Iranian IRGC spokesman is dead. And in some cases 612 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 4: we're on the replacements of the replacements of the dead. 613 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: In other words, it's hard to know what's going on. True, 614 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: let's see this is Henry F. Spent way too much 615 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: of my life negotiating and bargaining with Persians, Arabs, Indians 616 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: and Chinese. Trump is the first president that they respect 617 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: because he understands the way they think. Trump is a 618 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: master of the game, using every tool, including braggadocio, deceit, 619 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: outrageous demands, but most of all strength and convincing the 620 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: other party you are willing to walk away without a deal. 621 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: I've talked to some international businessmen. They agree wholeheartedly with 622 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: this sentiment. By the way, that's not racism or bigotry, 623 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: that's facts. Different cultures negotiate in different ways, let's see 624 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: boots on the ground. POOLO does a nice job. Were 625 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: reflecting the mixed feelings I think everybody has. There's considerable 626 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: concern about an Iran land invasion, with good reason. We 627 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: have a solid history of things not turning out well 628 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: when we commit landforces to a military action. It's left 629 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: a bad taste in our mouths, so much that in 630 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: today's political division and chaos, we might not muster the 631 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: collective will to do it, even if it really is 632 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: the best option. Uh baba uh uh. 633 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 4: Sure, hope there's a better option. We exercise it and 634 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 4: it works. We all hope that. 635 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 2: Ah. Here's a little. 636 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 4: More on the war from JT and Livermore. Everyone is 637 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 4: cause playing themselves. Iran's proving why the whole world is 638 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 4: and should be against him, massacring their own people, stupidly 639 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 4: attacking allies and foes alike, revealing their own lives about 640 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 4: ICBM capabilities less than a week after claims the contrary, 641 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 4: engaging in war crimes, et cetera. 642 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: Europe doing what they always do. 643 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 4: Almost nothing, not helping opening the straits not much, not 644 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 4: helping and defend the neighborhood, not helping in securing Iran's 645 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 4: nuclear material. Middle Eastern countries contribute nothing even as they're 646 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 4: being bombed by Iran while they're about to but happy 647 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: to have the US do their dirty work. The US 648 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 4: being the world's policeman again, even though Europe is a 649 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: closer target than the US and gulf oil is a 650 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 4: lot more important to them than it is to us. 651 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: To a point Trump was trying to make last week, Hey, 652 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: this is more euroil than our oil. We got our 653 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: own oil. But we're doing nothing. Nothing is what we do. 654 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 2: We are doing what we do. Everybody playing their roles. 655 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: We got a lot more on the way if you 656 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: miss a segment at the podcast Armstrong and Getty on 657 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 2: demand Armstrong and Getty