1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, and myself, 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays six 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: to nine am Eastern or three am to six am 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: Let's give this punies. 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: Ah, good morning, good morning, good morning. Happy heaby h Wednesday, 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: August the thirteenth, almost midway through August, which means the 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: start of football. That's what we're waiting for. It is 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: two Pros a Cup of Joe, Brady Quinn, I'm in 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: for the guys. I'm Anthony Gargano. Uh. We talked a 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: lot about the Cowboys, Jerry, We'll get back to the NFL. 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: But Brady, I got to get into this social media, 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: this story about John Mattier, the quarterback at Oklahoma who 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: was under a little bit of a fire yesterday over 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: what was sports gambling accusations involving his Venmo Now he 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: got right in front of it said, no, this is 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: not It was an inside joke when we were teenagers 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: with a childhood friend and had nothing to do with that. 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: This is not gambling. I've never gambled. I don't gamble 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: on sports. I know the seriousness of it. And we 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: just got done fake Adam Schefter talking about Odell Beckham retiring. 27 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: It is so utterly dangerous. And now you got Membo 28 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: they're doing the same thing, the arch Brady. It's crazy, 29 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: it's nuts. 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: And I think the one thing though, that I look 31 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: at this and say, where you just wonder again. I'm 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: not trying to say he did or he didn't, but 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: the accusations are born out of his freshman year while 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: he was at Washington State that maybe he had laid 35 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: some bets, and you know, look, this is all landscape before. 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us out there who you know, 37 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: didn't grow up in a time where there there was 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: sports betting. If there was, you're either going to casino 39 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: or you got a bookie, right, I mean, that's just 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: that's how it used to work, or you got something 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: friendly going on with with some of your buddies. But 42 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: in this case, I look at it, and I go, 43 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: all right, is that the chance that maybe he did 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: lay some bets And this is before he really came 45 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: to prominence and people knew who he was and he 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: had his great season at Washington State and he becomes 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: this lightning rod you know, number one play in the 48 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 1: transfer portal that goes to a blue blood in Oklahoma. Yeah, 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: there's a chance of that. And I think, you know, 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: I never put it past young people. I was young once. 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: I remember the dumb stuff I used to do, So 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: I am sure even though even at that age, you 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: know this would be back what in twenty twenty two? 54 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: I think, uh, where there were there were this surface, 55 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, would would it? Would he have done something 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: like this? Of course, Like, there's the chance of that. 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: So I'm not not accusing him of it, but I'm 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: also saying I don't necessarily know there's not a fire 59 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: if there's a little smoke there. What's most interesting to 60 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: me about it is what do you do? I mean, 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: if this was three years ago, are you going to 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: go back and punish the kid now? I mean imagine 63 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: the impact not only in him from a standpoint of 64 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: just be able to earn off name image and likeness if 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: they were to suspend him, but even then, like it, 66 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: at what point do you go? But yeah, that has 67 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: nothing to do with him now being the starting quarterback 68 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: for Oklahoma, and nor do we have any sort of 69 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: information that he has even gambled or done anything since. 70 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: And so even if he there was some sort of wrongdoing, 71 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: I just I'm like, well, okay, where is this gonna go? 72 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: Because he did something illegal three years ago? And I 73 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: understand his people who want to toe the line of saying, way, 74 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: there's right and wrong, and what he did was wrong. 75 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, but now now, because you didn't put 76 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: in the right you know, protocols to be able to 77 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: catch this or find out about this, you're going to 78 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: penalize him three years later, this coaching staff, this team, 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: everyone else around him, I mean, or even if they 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: penalized Washington State, He's well, how's that fair? Is this 81 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: is three years after the fact. This has kind of 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: always been my question and issue with the NCAA is 83 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, for example, you'd find out Southern cal was 84 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: paying players and they end up vacating wins and then 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: they end up putting on suspension like five years after 86 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: the fact, And it's like, well, how's that fair to 87 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: the kids who are there now who had no idea 88 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: whether we. 89 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: Watch those games, they're expunged. Good. 90 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: It's like we all know, yeah, we all know how 91 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: the games went right. So I sit there and I 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: look at it. I just go like, even if this 93 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: was true, what's the punishment going to be? You know, 94 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: And how's that? How is that fair to anyone who 95 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: was involved, just because the kid made a mistake three 96 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: years ago, even if this is true, which you know, 97 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: again you doubt the credibility of it. 98 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: I guess yeah. I don't even know, uh, the circumstances 99 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: on Venmo and why they were involved. It was with 100 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: a friend of his, now, I don't know. They were 101 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: labeled like do you. I don't use Venmo, so okay, 102 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I'm right there with you. I 103 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: like people like I use Apple Pay. Usually it's like, you. 104 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: Know, for example or something, I'll send an Apple Pay 105 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it feels a lot easier because you're 106 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: already having a text conversation. You don't have to go 107 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: out of the app to go to another one. I 108 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: feel like I'm on an island here, like you use 109 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: Apple pay though too. 110 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: Yes, I use Apple Pee, I use Apple Pay PayPal like. 111 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: I'll use those two like most people. Venmo is public, right, 112 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: so there's a public in a private mode. So you 113 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: could put it on private mode, but there's a public mode. 114 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: I just read a story about the PGA tourter. This 115 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: is crazy, Brady. People are nuts. And you mentioned the 116 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: gambling thing, which listen, I think it's you know, it's 117 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: fun and the whole thing, but they're it's so dangerous. 118 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: It really is. I mean, it tears people apart, and 119 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: it's brings back and brings out an ugly, ugly side 120 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: of the sports fan and the PGA tour guys were 121 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: talking about how they had to get on venmo because 122 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: they were getting these crazy requests and death threats on venmo. 123 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: And you owe me nineteen hundred dollars you missed that pot. 124 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: And you know this guy, he was saying, every once 125 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: in a while people would send me money, he said, 126 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: he goes, but it's crazy, like you can't. You got 127 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: to put that on private. But I don't know how 128 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: you would be on public mode if you're a public 129 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 2: figure on venmo. 130 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how either. I mean, honestly, probably 131 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: just better off having someone do it for you, if 132 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: if we're being honest about it. But I just look 133 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: at this and say, it's one of the hardest times 134 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: to be a prominent athlete. And that's whether you're a 135 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: professional eve at the college level, which I guess we 136 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: can call them professionals now right, Yeah, it doesn't matter 137 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: how you go about defining it. They are in the spotlight. 138 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: There's fans who feel like they have ownership into whatever 139 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: it is. I mean, even at the college level. Now, 140 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: you know there's a lot of kids between the ability 141 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: to bet, but also an il and these kids getting paid, 142 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: I think that's completely changed the dynamic or the demeanor 143 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: that fans and how they treat you know, players younger 144 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: and young. And it's tough because you know, it's it's 145 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: to introduce. I mean, I take my kids on weekends 146 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: to go, you know, sometimes to some of our big 147 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: new kickoff stops, and they'll hear things and they'll ask Dad. 148 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: My daughter's now nine, so she's old enough to and 149 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: never my seven year old has got rabbit ears. But 150 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: they're old enough to ask the question like did he 151 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: just say what I think he did? Or dad, he 152 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: just said a bad word. Why is he saying that? 153 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: And it's it's hard, like it's it's actually like that's 154 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: the that's the worst part about it is is trying 155 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: to explain to my seven or nine year old like 156 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: why a grown man would be saying that to a 157 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: younger kid, right, you know, But but that's where we're at, 158 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, that's where we're at with sports, where if 159 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: everyone feels like they're investing into something or putting the 160 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: hard earned money into something, they feel like they have 161 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: the right to do that. 162 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: And it's a million times worse worse on social media 163 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: because of the anonymity. Right, It's wait like obviously people 164 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't say that stuff to your face when they meet you, right, Like, 165 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: you know, all the divice things that is that is 166 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: just said. And you know, part of it is a 167 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: blessing that you didn't have to deal with that at 168 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: Notre Dame and in the NFL the way it is. 169 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: In the NFL when we got there, I mean we 170 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: had the Facebook and Underdame, so my senior year, you know, 171 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: that was something that people just I never really understood. 172 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: Why would people want to put their public business out there? 173 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: It's still to this day doesn't make sense for me. Now, 174 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people make money off it. 175 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: A lot of people are doing marketing off that. There's 176 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: so there's some purpose to it. Don't get me wrong, 177 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: but I was always more of the private type in general, 178 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: and even more than that, I just kind of figured, well, 179 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: if I was going to do something I wasn't supposed 180 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: to be doing, I definitely don't have to do it 181 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: where my parents could see it, right. I one of 182 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: my buddies, you know, then girlfriend now wife. I remember, 183 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: like she was to tell a story how her parents 184 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: they would always watch the Hallmark channel because a Notre Dame. 185 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: They'd have masks, they'd er it on Sunday mornings, and 186 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, no matter what she did the night that 187 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: Saturday night before it was, she was always in that 188 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: front pew. And so that when they were watching all 189 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: the way from Idaho and they saw her, they saw 190 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: her there at church, they said, all right, all's good 191 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: in the world. All's good in the world. And it's 192 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: like and I sit there and say, like, I miss 193 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: those days because I'm like, there was a period of 194 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: time where you could make mistakes and the whole world 195 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: didn't have to see it, right, and these kids aren't 196 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: dealing with that now. I mean, for example, the other 197 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: piece of this was the whole arch manning part of it, right, Like, 198 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: didn't something come up with his Venmo? 199 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, people were posting fake pictures, you know, on 200 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: his Venmo. And here's the thing is, like, by the way, 201 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: I don't know what they are. You don't know what's 202 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: real what's not real anymore? 203 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: By the way, Well, so you're trying to discern and 204 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I don't know like what to 205 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: think of all that. I sit there and just kind 206 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: of saying to myself, all right, like he's a young kid, 207 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: and even if it's true, he's made some poor decisions. 208 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: Like I feel like there's a number of players like 209 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: we kind of talk about or say that about, but 210 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: that that's that's how I look at it, Like it's 211 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: hard to be too harsh on these kids, even though 212 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: they're still kind of, you know, growing mature and there 213 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: in the spotlight. It's hard to really come down on 214 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: them like that. 215 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: Dude, I'm with you. I feel for them again, and 216 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: we have this let's we keep receipts well, receipts on 217 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: a fourteen year old and what they're tweeting, and you know, 218 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: maybe maybe there's no context, maybe it is vile or whatever, 219 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: but if there's fourteen fifteen years old, they should have 220 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: the ability to make a mistake and learn from it, 221 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: right right, And they I mean, you're gonna bring up 222 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: old tweets from children and stuff that's being said, and 223 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: I who knows what you're thinking? Right, Like, they're not rational, 224 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: They're children, They're kids that are growing that are gonna 225 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: make mistakes. You've said it, like, allow them to be fallible. 226 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: We're all you were all fallible, were human beings, so 227 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: especially the youth, like you know, it is what it is, 228 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: especially stuff like this. 229 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: It's it's newer. It's tough to understand how to navigate me. 230 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: And hell, I didn't even know there was a public 231 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: private on Venmo. I just I never used Venmo, so 232 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: I never had to worry about that. But I was 233 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: gonna ask, like Lee and Lorena, do you guys use Venmo? 234 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: Are you more apple pant? Like what do you guys 235 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: use for your your payment platform? 236 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: I famously remember that I do use Venmo, And the 237 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: problem is that it is the default is public. I 238 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: always have to switch it over to private. You have 239 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: to do it for every transaction. And I remember you 240 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: paid me for whatever reason. It's probably a lot of 241 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: tickets or something like that, and you'd it was a lot. 242 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: Of tickets that you didn't buy, that you want them. 243 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: I have the receipts under but yeah, but indeed I 244 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: did not. 245 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 2: Wait, you didn't buy you said you bought the Anthony. 246 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: We all we all threw in fifty bucks. I think 247 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: when the was the was it power ball? 248 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like a billion or two billion or 249 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: something like that. 250 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: We all threw them like, oh it's twenty bucks. Fifty bucks. Yeah, 251 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, And let's just put it this way. Half 252 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: the whatever the money was, only half them out went 253 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: to the tickets. 254 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: I think this is what I think. This is where 255 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: I where you guys are mad at me, and I 256 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: will maintain all the money you gave to me went 257 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: to lotto tickets. But you guys wanted to put like 258 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: sixty bucks down to each or something. I was like, 259 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: I only am comfortable putting down twenty, So I put down. 260 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So so Lee, if we're gonna go here, all right, 261 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: tell Anthony yes, about you being the commission of your 262 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: fantasy football leagues. It's obviously that's starting up, yep, So 263 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: tell them, tell them about your fantasy football league, and 264 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: once you do with the money last. 265 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: So some leagues, you know, they collect the money upfront 266 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: and some do them at the end of the season. 267 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: I happened to collect upfront. I also happened to be 268 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: in five other leagues where that are like one hundred 269 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: bucks each to buy in. So I sometimes might use 270 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: that money that people are paying me to hold on 271 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: to to pay for my other leagues, hedge my bets, 272 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: and so I'm basically playing the whole season just to 273 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: not have to pay at the end of the season, 274 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 3: because basically I'm gonna have to reach into my own 275 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: bank account to like bring out five hundred bucks to 276 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: either pay the winner or pay myself. But yeah, that 277 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: money that that usually goes to me usually ends up 278 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: getting used on the other leaks. 279 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, is that not a no? 280 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: No? 281 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: It's like, if there's ever a time where you shouldn't 282 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: be commissioner, and it's probably this. 283 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: Hey, everyone gets paid at the end of the year. 284 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: They all get their money. 285 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: Hold on you say this now, publicly. Do you forget 286 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: the things you say earlier in the show, like like 287 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: months ago. 288 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: Well, I always forget what I say. I never remember. 289 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so Anthony, it took him, I think like 290 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: six weeks to pay back the winner of his league 291 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: because he had used all the money on other things. 292 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: I think this was back when du yeah, dirty Mic 293 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: and the boys broke into his car stole a bunch 294 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: of stuff. So he was dealing with some Yeah, there's 295 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: some extenuating circumstances. 296 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: He sometimes you got to reach into the piggy bank. No, 297 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: I know, it's a bad commissioner thing. I usually should 298 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: have a treasury. That's why you should have a treus, 299 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: like somebody who's a little more trustworthy. But you know, 300 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: that's why you have, you know, different governing bodies you 301 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: can sometimes. 302 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: Have and you're still the commissioner. They ain't even ask to. 303 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: You yell yeah that I am the commissioner, because somebody 304 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: has to do the other dirty work of getting twelve 305 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: guys to you know, commit to a time and date 306 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: and keeping the rules. 307 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: It's just it doesn't sound that hardly. I'll be honest 308 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: with you, dude. 309 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: That would not go over well South Philly like back 310 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: in the day. 311 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what about today? I mean I don't 312 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: think it's go. Well, this sounds like a Southern California league, 313 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: is what it sounds like? 314 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: Hey, man, Like I said, everybody gets paid. They all 315 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: get their Money's. 316 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Not let you in his league anytime? 317 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: No way, man, Well, the prices go up every year 318 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: for each league, for each league. You know what started 319 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: out is like Bucks buy ins are now one. 320 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Hundred different expenditures. 321 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very expensive. But to answer your question from 322 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: the beginning, Yeah, most younger people, I think use Venmo, 323 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: Apple pay Ice will get confused by sometimes. I don't 324 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: trust it as much as Venmo for. 325 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: Some reason, we Apple pen. 326 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: I love Apple Pye. He is right in my pocket. 327 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: I've got to open up a special app. I just 328 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: got to your text message and go bink bink bink boom. 329 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 330 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: My mom accidentally sent money to the wrong person the 331 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: other last week, and she tried to like say, hey, 332 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: can you send that money back? And they never did. 333 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: They don't have to. Yeah, exactly. 334 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: Oh jeez, wait, now let me ask you won't think 335 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: because the other thing of the aspect of this is 336 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: the ratting nature yeah, Lorraining what what what is it 337 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: about now putting everybody on blast? Because in a sense, 338 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: in that sense. 339 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: It's ratting, right, You're talking about like Venmo and like 340 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: how you can well, you know. 341 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: It's probably not look at this, everybody will now rat 342 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: out their friends. 343 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I've been stuck in that situation before. I 344 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 4: was hanging out with this one guy and his girlfriend's like, 345 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: why did you send Loraena twenty five bucks? Why are 346 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: you even talking to her? So it's like, yeah, Venmo's 347 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 4: kind of like the you. 348 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 3: Shouldn't use it. Yeah, and to say for the arch 349 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: Manny thing, like the stuff that they would say, this 350 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: is what typical guys will do. They'll say, like, here's 351 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: twenty bucks for butt stuff. This is literally quoting arch 352 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: Manning's Venmo page, which has been deactivated. It's always stuff 353 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 3: like that. It's always something that's inappropriate and not what 354 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: it really is. For funny. Is often on there a 355 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: bunch of drug references. You know, maybe sometimes that's the case, 356 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: but most of the time it's a joke between guys exactly. 357 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: I said that people take it serious and then they 358 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: want to blast it out to rattle people. The rat 359 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: culture I just can't. I don't dig rady. That's the 360 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: one thing about today that I can't get behind is 361 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: the rat culture. 362 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: There's too many guys, you know, tat to tail on 363 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: each other and all that stuff, which I'm trying to 364 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 1: figure out. 365 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 2: All right. 366 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: I was like, I just that'ched one of my Venmo, 367 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: which I'd never had Venmo until I did a golf trip, 368 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: and some guys are like, why don't you have Venmo? 369 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Like I have Apple Pay, Like why can't you guys 370 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: just do that? But no one told me it was 371 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: it was public, so thank god it is on a 372 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: private setting. But yeah, I just I don't know. I 373 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not sure if it's just because there's 374 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: so much transparency now with being able to track and 375 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: trace everything. But again, as we talked about before, we're 376 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: venturing into a world where it's getting hard to differentiate 377 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: aim from reality, at least in that realm. And if 378 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: that's the case, I think this makes it really really 379 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: tough for people to kind of jump to what is 380 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: public perception now, and public perception is you have to 381 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: prove your innocence. Yeah, Like it's no longer like you know, 382 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: they have to prove that you're guilty, and they have 383 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: to prove that you actually did something wrong. Nowadays, someone 384 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: makes an accusation, everyone assumes guilt and you have to 385 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: prove your innocence. And that's an extremely slippery slope. And 386 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons why if you look at 387 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: you know, for example, like some of our are founding, 388 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, documents that have created this country, where they 389 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: are structured in a way that they were, they should 390 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: withstand the test of time. But you know, today's society 391 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: and perception of all naturally challenging it. 392 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: Oh dude, you're spot a brother. Uh my man Nikki 393 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: and pa he said the lottery tickey money law during 394 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: is Bro code mortal sin stuff? 395 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: Lee? 396 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: Wowly, First of all, the lotto tickets, I maintain I 397 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: used all the money for the stuff for the lotto tickets. 398 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: Now you maintain that. But here's the problem is when 399 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to buy xly, I can't supposed to buy 400 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: X amount of tickets I did and you only bought 401 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: half that amount. 402 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 3: Not true, because you guys demanded that I pay as 403 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: much as you guys did, and I didn't want them 404 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 3: to pay that much. I didn't want to pay sixty 405 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 3: bucks for a lot of tickets, and I used my 406 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: money to buy it. 407 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: Here we go. 408 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: This is where it gets deeper, Anthony. If we all 409 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: throw in, let's just say round numbers, Okay, fifty bucks. Right, 410 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: there's there's four of us, so it should be two 411 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: hundred bucks that we're buying a lot of tickets because 412 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: we're trying to hit the jackpot. 413 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: I get this. 414 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: If one of us only throws in, what ten bucks 415 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: leagueuse the rest you spent on booze, that means really 416 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: about one hundred and sixty. And the problem with that 417 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: is you still think you're in for the share of 418 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: the jackpot if we win. 419 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: Maybe the percentage shouldn't Yeah, a percentage of it? I 420 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: should no, yeah, no, yeah. Well here's the thing. This 421 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: happens in office pools all the time, where like all 422 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: of a sudden, somebody sets a limit of saying, like, oh, 423 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: we should all put in fifty bucks. Not everybody in 424 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: the office wants to put fifty bucks down, Karen, And like, 425 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's pure pressure and everybody has 426 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 3: to put down a lot more than they're comfortable with. 427 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: That was this case. 428 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, then you shouldn't put down any you're. 429 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 3: Out, You're out. 430 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're buying a pleas over there. 431 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 2: No, that's exactly, That's what I mean. 432 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: It is like some places make it where you have 433 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 3: to put down. You have to down. 434 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lee, that was our rules, pal, and you end 435 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: up spending it on boo. 436 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 3: Dude, LeVar didn't even pay. LeVar didn't pay you. 437 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: I had to pay. 438 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 3: I had to pay up for Levar's I had to 439 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 3: pay Levar's tab on that. The whole thing he had 440 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: to pay me. 441 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: He paid me back going on. 442 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: That was where the controversy came in. 443 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: Is because he did pay you. 444 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: He did pay you way after the fact. 445 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: Way, so he pulled the lapt what he paid six 446 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: weeks after pay the guy won your league exactly. 447 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: That's a double violation. Brady stuck with you. Guys. 448 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: My god, we had agreed, we had agreed to a 449 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 3: certain number. In Brady's like, no, put more down, And 450 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: I was like, I got a court. 451 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: That was a big one. It was like over a billion. 452 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: I was like, that's probably the one you want to 453 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: throw some money off. 454 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one ticket is just as good as 455 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: sixty in my opinion, when it comes to the. 456 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: Loss, but mathematically not. 457 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: Well, that's true. 458 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: But I think what we were trying to do, uh, Anthony, 459 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: is we were trying to buy enough tickets so that 460 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: we had a greater chance of getting struck by lightning. 461 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: No excuse me, we had a better chance of winning 462 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: the lotto than getting struck by lightning. I think that 463 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: was what we were trying to get to. I don't know. 464 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: Somehow that felt like more like pay a little better 465 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: luck to that one. 466 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. All right, all right, sit tight, we'll 467 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: be back in just a moment. Lots to get to. 468 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: Jordan loves non throwing hand. It's the thumb on. Is 469 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 2: that an issue? He's gotta get surgery on that. I 470 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: need Brady's advice for my kid, who's a quarterback. Lots 471 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: to do. And by the way, Two Pros and a 472 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: Cup of Joe now has a brand new YouTube channel 473 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: for the show. 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Real? 498 00:23:53,880 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 2: Adam Schefter just reported James Cook and the Bill reach 499 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: a contract extension, the most guaranteed money for a running 500 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: back in the last five years. 501 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Brady, Wow, I mean obviously saw Saquan's deal, you know, 502 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl and everything this this season as 503 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: far as the average annual value, But haven't seen the 504 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: numbers for this yet. What is that number for the 505 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: most guaranteed or is he just you know, simply steady. 506 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's stating he didn't put it out yet. 507 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: Forty eight million extension, thirty million guaranteed. 508 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: Oh there is Oh, all right, all right. 509 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean he's a very talented player. You just hope 510 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: he can stay healthy. It's always concerned with every running back, 511 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: but in particular with him too, you know, I think, 512 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: but he's I mean again, when they lean on him, 513 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: he can do it all man. He can catch out 514 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: the backfield. Well, he's kind of got that, that vision 515 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: and that slipperiness to him for you know, for his size. 516 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: But it's an interesting move when you look at you know, 517 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: Philly obviously invested in Saquon and they to help lead 518 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: them to a super Bowl and then they give them 519 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: the extension. This offseason, the Bills are trying to get one. 520 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: They're trying to get there, and now they got a 521 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: guy obviously who you know, again they haven't leaned on 522 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: to carry them a Ton, But as they build up 523 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: their score right around Josh Allen, it does feel like 524 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: they're investing the money in the right spot and maybe 525 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: that pendulum for the value of a running back is 526 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: swinging back the other way, where now these guys are 527 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: starting to actually be able to capture their worth as 528 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: opposed to just being looked at as you know, running 529 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: back by a committee room or just some sort of 530 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: commodity that you can get a running back anywhere. 531 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: Well, think about it, right before last year, Shea Kwan 532 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: and Derrick Henry are your free agents. Like they're free agents. 533 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: The two best backs in the league are free agents, 534 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: and they go for nothing. 535 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: Relatively speak right, right and again, like if you look 536 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: at how much they're actually impacting the offense and carrying 537 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: the load for a lot of these teams, it's just 538 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: it's crazy. But I understand the business standpoint of it too. 539 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, if you can find guys who come in 540 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: that do it just as good of a job, you 541 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: know you can get for cheaper, it makes sense. I 542 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: think the interesting dynamic that I've seen in regard that 543 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: regard to like the economics for running backs in the 544 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: NFL is a lot of running backs are staying longer 545 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: in college because they can earn more money and they're 546 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: valued more at that level as opposed to at the NFL, 547 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: where once they get there they get their shot and 548 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: then they you know, if they can't make it. 549 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: You're not getting at Yeah. 550 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: You're not getting a second contract. So you know, yeah, 551 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: it makes sense. You know. It was definitely not one 552 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: of the cause and effects that I thought we see 553 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: from name, image and likeness and college players being paid, 554 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: But that was one of the effects. 555 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: No, I mean, we'll think about it, and there's always 556 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: a steadfast rule that you burn it back out and 557 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: you don't get in a second contract. A lot of 558 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: gms operated under that. You don't want to you don't 559 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: want to do it. So if you're if you're gonna 560 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 2: do that, then the running back needs to stay and 561 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: then you come in you get your one big contract. 562 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: You know, they'll say quantity and anomaly, right, I mean, 563 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, plus last year a lot of highway bodels. 564 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think that's also one of the 565 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: pitches that you hear from a lot of these colleges 566 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: where they stack those running back rooms and they'll say, 567 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get you know, get a lot of 568 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: you know where on your on your tires. We're gonna 569 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna rotate you guys in you know, so it 570 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: doesn't matter who you. I mean, look at penns Day, 571 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: we talked about them, k Tron, Allen, Nick Singleton, Notre 572 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: Dame's got an entire room of guys. I mean it's 573 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, Anias Williams, Jeremiah Love and Jendarian Price, like 574 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: they'll all three share the carries and and you know 575 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: it's it's helped out as far as recruiting and some 576 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: of these teams being able to retain a lot of 577 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: the top running backs knowing that hey, if my number 578 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: gets called ten times a game, great, it's gonna keep 579 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: me fresh on me looked at the exact same by 580 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: the NFL level as I you know, I'm gonna be 581 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: in college and so I can get paid for another 582 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: year or two real money and and then eventually go 583 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: on take you know, take my crack at the NFL. Hey, 584 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: let me ask you, what do you think of the bills? 585 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: Because we just got done talking about the cook extension, 586 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: and this is it Like the Chiefs now they're great 587 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: and obviously and I don't think they're gonna have a 588 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: fall off. I may Andy rebuild is offensive line and 589 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 2: they're really good, but this is the year, right If 590 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: I want to make any other team a favorite, it's Buffalo. 591 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: Do they have it enough for Josh on the outside, 592 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: with Coleman, gear and Palmer. 593 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: It's so tough to feel like they do. However, I mean, 594 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: we've seen years where you know, we've questioned that. I mean, obviously, 595 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: remember when the Chiefs left Tyreek Hill and then they 596 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: still end up winning a Super Bowl, and so it 597 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: does mean you always necessarily have to happen. Now, granted, 598 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: they've got a future Hall of Famer at tight end. 599 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: Uh maybe Daltonkin kaid And and Dawson Knox the combination 600 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: can help shoulder some of that, but they really need 601 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: to see some some growth and improvement out of that group. 602 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm not sure Cliff skor you know, 603 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: Shakiru Keon, Coleman and Palmer are are going to be 604 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: able to carry it. But again, you look at the 605 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: money where they're investing in James Cook, that's probably a 606 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: signal they're gonna be running football a little more balanced 607 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: than they have been and that's not necessarily a bad 608 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: right and and that's what helps protect them, right, you know, 609 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: running the football, playing great defense, but they're going to 610 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: have to have someone step up to be able to 611 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: make the big play when when called upon. And unfortunately 612 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: for them, they you know, had that guy on Diggs. 613 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: He's no longer there. You know, whether or not they're 614 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: they're feeling that loss, I don't think they do. In 615 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: the regular season. I think that's that's a loss that 616 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: you face when you get to the better teams and 617 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: those teams start to kind of take away something and 618 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: then you you struggle to be able to find that 619 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: guy that can step up in the big moment. You know, 620 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 621 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: That maybe because you need somebody could spread that could 622 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: spread the field in those big games, right, like you 623 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: see all its shrinks on you. I mean, look how 624 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: the Chiefs play you. They're gonna they're gonna play you 625 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: short in the game, and and they're gonna if you 626 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: had that home run hitter on the outside, I mean, 627 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: that's it. That's I think that's the only thing they lack. 628 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look at Keon Coleman might develop into that, 629 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, he might be you know that guy at 630 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: some point. But until until that happens, you know, until 631 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: you see that growth, I mean, you're just not gonna 632 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: feel over the confidence and then being able to win 633 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: that way. And to your point, look, some some coaches 634 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: feel more comfortable if they, you know, are able to 635 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: spread the football around. But I think they'd be lying 636 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: to you if they didn't feel like, hey, we need 637 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: to have that one guy though we know we can 638 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: depend upon in that critical moment. And I don't know 639 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: that they, you know, like again, they have that guy 640 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: unless I don't know. Maybe maybe Bill's fans feel like 641 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm wrong and maybe Coleman will become that but I 642 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: don't know that asily. 643 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: Maybe I hope he does. I listen, I love McDermott. 644 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: I'm a big Sean McDermott guy. I know Sean from 645 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: back in the day. He's great people, great family and 646 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: uh and I listen. If there is a fan base 647 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: that deserves to win, like Justice, it's that fan base. 648 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: I mean, let's be real, like they deserve if Justice 649 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: says anything, they deserve a super Bowl. 650 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I mean I think there's a few up there. 651 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: I was I was thinking I got of the rust 652 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: Bell Cleveland, Detroit Ball any one of those three. I'm 653 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: waiting for you guys to get a super Bowl Detroit Cleveland. 654 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, yes, oh, you know it's true. Those three, 655 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: those three franchises, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo. They're great fans, right, 656 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: the tremendous football people and they're loyal, you know, Sports 657 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: Justice six mile long. 658 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: It should Well, we'll see if if it really does. 659 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: I just love the fact that, you know, the Bill's 660 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: new stadium, it's still going to encompass some of the elements. 661 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: Apparently they've dug it down solo and I'm not sure 662 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: if you saw this that the wind really isn't going 663 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: to impact the game. At least that's what they're saying 664 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: based on the construct of this stadium, that it will 665 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: be an outdoor venue, but the wind should not impact 666 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: the actual game conditions. So I got to read more 667 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: than that and figure out how that's the case. I mean, 668 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: you'd figure if it's open air at some point wind 669 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: could could have to play a factor. I just remember 670 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: the old stadium, that thing would swirl And I'll never 671 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: forget because one of my first one of my first 672 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: starts was on Monday Night football. There and it was 673 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: cold and it was windy, and when we would I 674 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: would walk around the field with Phil Dawson and Dave's 675 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: astido or a kicker and punter, and we talk about, 676 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, kind of the wind to different spots. Because 677 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: if you're a midfield and you're throwing a go ball 678 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: on the left hand side of that back pilon, it's 679 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: gonna get knocked down. You throw it to the right side, 680 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: the right pylon, it's gonna carry it out of bounds. 681 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: And so it's almost like hitting like a golf shot. 682 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 1: I mean, you were really talking about the way you 683 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: had to kind of adjust how you're gonna throw based 684 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: on where you were on the field. You know, I 685 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: think coming out, I'm throwing a go ball down the 686 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: left hand side, Uh, it's gonna be into the wind. 687 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: You don't have to flip your thinking, and like, those 688 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: are little things you don't think about. But man, it 689 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: that wasn't It was always an interesting stadium to have 690 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: to play in and try to throw the football and 691 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: then pierce to that win. 692 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: To me, how Allen will cut throw it? How he 693 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: could cut through the win? 694 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, he's got a strong with a farm and 695 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: he spins it. Well, Like that's one thing that you 696 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: see a lot of these a lot of these guys 697 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: to come out of college. You know, they really try 698 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: to hone in on trying to spin the football because 699 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: if you throw it, if you throw lobbly ball, man, 700 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: that thing is never gonna make it through like now 701 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: you always do, like the Kurt Warner, even Peyton back 702 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: in the day. I mean, those guys are playing inside 703 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: for half their games. We thank god because they would 704 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: not be able to throw through that sort of win. 705 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: But you know, it's a little more comforting to be 706 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: able to play in the confines of being indoors and 707 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: not have to deal with those sorts of conditions. You 708 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: know what else is comforting, Anthony is good sleep, and 709 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: that always starts with a good mattress. And I trust 710 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: a mattress firm sleep experts to find my perfect mattress 711 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: from their premium selections. So for great sleep, you deserve, 712 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: visit Mattress Firm during the best sale of the year 713 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: that make sleep easy. 714 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 2: Look at that. That's a that's a transition, my man, 715 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: A coming up. I gotta get your revice. I'm serious, 716 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: I need your advice bad, all right, so we'll do 717 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: that lots of stuff. I got a violation question for 718 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: you as we continue. Two Pros A Cup of Joe, 719 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: Brady Quinn, I'm Anthony Gargano right here, Fox Sports Radio. 720 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 721 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 5: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and 722 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 5: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 723 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, Two Pros, A Cup of Joe. 724 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: Right here, Brady Quinn, I'm Anthony Gargana. Went for the guys. Hey, 725 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: don't forget With the iHeartRadio app, you could stream us 726 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 2: wherever you happen to be. Catch us all of our 727 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio shows Love twenty four to seven and 728 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 2: the new and improved iHeartRadio app just hurts Fox Sports 729 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: Radio in the app, stream us live every day all day. 730 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: Be sure to select Fox Sports Radio as one of 731 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: your presets in the iHeart app. So guess what it 732 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: pops up at the top of your screen all the time? 733 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: Boat, It's right there. 734 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: So I got a buddy of mine who pitched for 735 00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks. All right, okay, all right, So, so his 736 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 2: name is Mike Koplov. He's a terrific dude. He's now 737 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: a scout for the Phillies. When he was young, his 738 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: father was it not. His father was a lawyer, big 739 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: sports fan, and he had two sons and he was like, 740 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my sons to. 741 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: The big leagues. 742 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: He was a crazy sports dad, and so he got 743 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: you know, he got baseball was their ticket. He got 744 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: both of them to throw really hard effect. His younger 745 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: one would have made it too, but then he blew 746 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: out his elbow. He was throwing like ninety eight. But 747 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 2: the oldest one, Mike. He when Mike was eighth grade. 748 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 2: He comes up. Now his father was a lawyer. He 749 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: comes home with this envelope with the Phillies like logo 750 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: on it. And then he then he has like this 751 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: letter with letter and from the Phillies, and on the 752 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: letter was we have signed you. This is a contract offer, 753 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 2: and we're gonna sign you at age eight if you 754 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: do the following things. And it listed out. It was 755 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: like his father did like an eight paces protract. 756 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: This is brilliant. 757 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 2: His father's name is Steve Kaploff. Great dude, but out 758 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 2: of his mind, I mean, completely crazy sports dad. It's 759 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: like an eight page contract of all the things he 760 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: had to do every day, and it was all the 761 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: duties and we will sign you at the minute you 762 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: graduate high school if you fulfill all this stuff. So 763 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 2: Mike was like, wow, the Phillies are gonna sign me, 764 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 2: Oh my god. And you know, he held this thing 765 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: in his room. He said he believed it for like 766 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 2: two years and then and then you know, every once 767 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: in a while, like a letter would come, and then finally 768 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 2: figure it out. But guess what, it got him to 769 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 2: the bigs without a doubt. It got it like he 770 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 2: did all the work everything. His father's a genius. 771 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: So his father is a genius. Although in today's day 772 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: and age, like the kids get open letters like that anymore, 773 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: I guess you could still do that. 774 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: I guess yeah. I mean, listen, I'm sure there's still 775 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: a correspondence that you can like. I like. So I'm 776 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how do I use this all? Right? 777 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 2: For my own kids. So I got a fifteen year 778 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: old I don't really worry about he is. He plays edge, 779 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: he's a defensive end. He's going to through a sophomore 780 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: year in high school, big boy, and he just does 781 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: all the right things, Right, My little one is a quarterback. 782 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: He's twelve. He wears a size we just got a 783 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 2: new cleats here. He's eleven and a half, he just 784 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 2: turned twelve. He's got huge hands he's gonna have he's 785 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 2: profiles really well, and he's got an arm. He's got 786 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: like he's got a great arm. So I'm trying to figure. 787 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, you got to study. Like I try 788 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 2: try to get him into like really loving the game 789 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: from an exito standpoint, and you know, listen, obviously, because 790 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 2: of what I do, I have a lot of assets. 791 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Uncle Baldy's down the street at 792 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 2: NFL Films. We got all the tape we want, right right, 793 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 2: So he's you know, he's twelve, right, So of course 794 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: he's not gonna he's not gonna comply. He got any thoughts, 795 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: like when did you start like breaking stuff down? 796 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's tough for me because I've always been really, 797 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: really curious and at a young age. You know, I 798 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: remember my my uncle would take me and I would 799 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: help track down and scout for one of his buddies. 800 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: I was coaching high school ball, and I was doing 801 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: that at like seven years old, you know, as far 802 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: as the witch hash run past what way, like they 803 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: would kind of tell me everything down in distance. And 804 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: so I just I think everyone's wired different. I just 805 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: think you got to find a way of igniting that 806 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: spark in them. I mean, look, I'm a datify my 807 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: kids are still young, but like each one of them 808 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: is so so different than how you go about trying 809 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: to motivate and for soccer, volleyball, gymnastics, whatever, lacrosse, whatever 810 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: else they're playing. Each one it's like it's its own 811 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: sports psychology to it. So I just I think you 812 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: got to keep leaning into like whatever excites in the 813 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: most about it and hopefully that triggers something. 814 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got you, all right, big I We're 815 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: coming up next. Don't go anywhere