1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: dot Com. Here we go on the Giants of the 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Giants podcast network. Welcome to a special Popa's Perspective edition 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: of the Giants Huttle podcast, presented by Bob's Discount Furniture. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Get Bob's Discount at the official furniture store and Mattress partner, oh, 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: the New York Giants shopping store, or at my Bob's 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: dot com. Well, the Giants are playing host to the 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, so it's part of this Popa's Perspective Huddle podcast. 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: We like to look back at a famous game against 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: the opponent. So we've got Jason Sehorn joining us because 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: we've got to go back to the playoff game of 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: the two thousand season. Jason, how are you? Oh good? Thanks? 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: Bob the Papa's Perspective. Yeah, I like that. I didn't 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: come up with his name, but it gets paid for 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: that little yeah, exactly. Um, So when when you think 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: back to that that game, um, you know, the the 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: energy in Giants Stadium at that point in time with 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: that grass field and the trays and the fans were 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: just so fired up. And then Ron Dixon takes the 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: opening kickoff ninety seven yards for a touchdown. There was 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: no roof, but it felt like the roof was gonna 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: blow off the building if there was one. When you 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: talk about energy, I mean, I think that's what the 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: player's feet off of when they can talk about home 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: field advantage and there's this this this odd feeling that 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: you get when the team that the fans are like 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: jumping on board with what you're doing. Because perspective on 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: playing is sometimes they're on board, and sometimes they're waiting 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: for you to perform like the Colisee and like entertain us, 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: and then we will tear. And then sometimes there's like 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: they buy in from the get go, and I think 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: because of Dixon's kickoff return that was one of those 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: scenaries where they bought in from the get go. We 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: felt it even though our offense wasn't really clicking. We 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: were still like on cloud nine the whole team, and 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: we can feel energy. And then, um, I think it 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: was midway through the second quarter. It was still just 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: seven nothing like we hadn't really done a bunch of stuff. 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: But defensive they were playing good. Yeah, Brad Delis hits 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: the field goal, uh five seconds into the second quarter, 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: it's ten nothing. The numbers aren't great, Um, but you guys, 42 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: if you guys were controlling the game, it's Philadelphia at 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: that point in time too, you know, because in recent 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: history the Giants have had a lot of problems with 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: the Eagles. But at that point in time, under Jim Fossil, 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: even when you guys didn't have great teams, you found 47 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: a way to simply beat Philadelphia. Was it one of 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: those were playing the Eagles? You guys just felt super 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: confident in the matchup. There was a lot of confidence 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: from the defensive standpoint in understanding that offense and how 51 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: we matched up with them. And I think to your point, 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 1: it was like three or four straight years. I want 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: to say, it's like six or seven straight games that 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: we had beaten them. So we've got to have their number. 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: With Donovan and navery quarterback. Um, and you go into 56 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: the you said something interesting. You're like, after the first quarter, 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: the stats weren't really there, but we didn't feel that. 58 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: Going back to the first part of the conversation, we 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: still felt like, man, we're on top of this, even 60 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: though we're not really doing much. And when you look 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: at that whole game. I don't know what the final 62 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: score was, but I think it was seventeen something, right, 63 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: was the final So we always scored one offensive touchdown 64 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: or two field goals, right, I mean, you know, but 65 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: it's funny, right, fans fans and even I'm thinking back 66 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: to the game, and it feels like you blew them out. 67 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: It almost feels like you guys beat them, like you 68 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: beat the Vikings the next week, and we did not, 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: Like if you were looking at the stats, like obviously, 70 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: we always or I always go back to that play 71 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: and so other people. And it's one of those things 72 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: where it's a great memory to have because people go, Okay, 73 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: what's your your most memorable moment. It's like that's easy, um, 74 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: so you can go back to that play. But the 75 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: capsule of the sixty minutes was we didn't dominate that team. 76 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: We had to two great players, a kickoff return and 77 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: the interception return for fourteen points, and that was essentially 78 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: our offense. Um. But the energy of the stadium, the 79 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: fact it was a playoff at home, the fact that 80 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: it was packed, and people remember it over you know, 81 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: twenty plus years, all of a sudden, it's like, oh, 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: we dominated them, always gets bigger at time. Let's get 83 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: to the play because it's late in the second quarter. 84 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: You mentioned it's ten nothing. Um, we're just inside the 85 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: two minute warning. They're trying to get a little drive 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: going because they had started at the fifteen yard line. 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: And then on a second and ten, Um, he tries 88 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: to hit small. Take me through what you saw in 89 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: the play and your remembrances of the play. So I 90 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: remember the defense, and it's funny like going back I've 91 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: gone over so many times when people ask questions and whatnot. 92 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: Is um you you you start to really dig into it. 93 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: So we're playing a coverage where I've got inside you 94 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: know coverage, So I'm I'm protecting the slant post all 95 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Because if you look at the play, 96 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: it was on the far right hash marks. So throwing 97 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: an out route isn't going to be the easiest throw. 98 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: And they throw an out route and I just dove underneath. 99 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: And you know, another thing you're not ever supposed to 100 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: do is go underneath, because if you don't make the 101 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: play underneath, the guy has gone behind you. Um. But 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: the ball was thrown low and away. It was really 103 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: a kind of a good throw. Where you would think 104 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: only Smalls could get to it, and I just felt like, 105 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: I think I might be able to get to this, 106 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: and so I dove. I mean, it was literally all 107 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: the things you're not supposed to do. You're not supposed 108 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: to counderneath the receiver, you're not supposed to dive because 109 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: if you don't make the play and he catches it, 110 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: he's gone. Um So, looking back on it, it was risky, 111 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: but I feel I could get to it. And then, um, 112 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: I've seen it so many times that I know what 113 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: happened is as I was reaching to catch the ball, 114 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: my arms hit the ground and it just kind of 115 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: like knocks the ball up. And then I'm on my 116 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm on my side, to my back and I look 117 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: up and I'm like, well, there it is, and it 118 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: just I don't know what happened at that point in time. 119 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: It's all kind of a blur, but clearly I tipped 120 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: it up to get it going higher, sat up, caught it, 121 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: got up, and then had to avoid my own mail 122 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: in Emmanuel McDaniel. Um so I didn't trip over him, 123 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: and then went back to the to the house. Yeah, 124 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: it's one. It's interesting, right because you remember all the 125 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: things leading up to the dive and then the kind 126 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: of the ball, and then then the rest is just 127 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: right that that's just instinct, where like this just happens 128 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: and you're getting up and next thing you know, you're 129 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: in the end zone. Right, It's not like you when 130 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: you think about it, you replay it that slowly. I 131 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: could replay everything to the catch, and then from there 132 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: it is a blur, like from from the moment I 133 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: stood up. All I remember is there was somebody coming 134 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: to from my right side and I think it was Jesse, 135 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: and um, he was blocking somebody. I cut back inside 136 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: and they just had to beat dout of it into 137 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: the end zone. But that stuff I only remember because 138 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: I see the video reclip or replay. The only thing 139 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: I can really remember is diving for that low ball 140 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: and you know, making sure I got my hands on it. 141 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna catch it necessarily, but 142 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna make sure that he didn't catch it. Well, 143 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: I had to make sure we didn't catch it. So 144 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: is that is that like one of those um you know, 145 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: like when when a guy will do something on an 146 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: athletic field and uh, let's just say football and quarterback 147 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: is gonna throw it, and the coaches on a side 148 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: go no, no, no, no no, and then suddenly becomes, yeah, 149 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: did you get anything from Foxy or your position coach 150 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: at some point? Maybe not when you came off the field, 151 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: but like maybe afterwards, like dude, you're not supposed to dive. 152 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to undercut it. The next week absolutely, 153 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: And that's why I sticks in my mind is because 154 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: I was told afterward, you know, not not on Sunday 155 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: or Saturday, don't remember the game was, But during the 156 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: next week as you watched the film, and I remember 157 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Fox he's saying, all right, great playing. That's one of 158 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: those things where we're gonna tell you don't do that. 159 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: But if you do do that, it better work. And 160 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: here's why, because if it doesn't work, look at the film. 161 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: They show that wide angle, they show the overhead like 162 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: there's nobody behind him. So he he catches the ball, 163 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: he's taken it to the house, and so you're like, okay, 164 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: but but Fox he was fantastic at that that He 165 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: had a set of rules and he's like, you do 166 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: it my way, and if you do it wrong or 167 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: if you get beat that's fine because I told you 168 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: do that way. If you do it your way and 169 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: get beat, it's not fine. But if you do it 170 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: your way, it works. It's on you. So I mean 171 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: there was some risk to reward that he allowed you 172 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: to take. And I think that's one of the reasons 173 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: we all liked them so much, because he understood there's 174 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: not just one way to do this. There's the right way, 175 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: but there's other ways that you can kind of like 176 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: tinker with something. We all tinkered. Um, so you got 177 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: this play. It was voted the greatest play in the 178 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: history of Giants Stadium. That's cool. You know when they 179 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: closed Giants Stadium, that play you know was voted and 180 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: I was voted as the greatest because it was from 181 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: an athletic standpoint everything else. Um, your teammates Michael Strahan 182 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: has always said this, The greatest athlete I ever played 183 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: with was Jason Shorn And it's not even it's not 184 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: even a doubt, hands down. Um, you were so physically gifted, 185 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: how did you evolve as a play Because you evolved 186 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: as a player from being unbelievably physically gifted to becoming 187 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: a student of the game as well. So I'll tell 188 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: you the exact reason this happened, and it was probably 189 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: the best thing for me was I was the second 190 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: of two quarterbacks taking the second round, so Thomas Randolph 191 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: was first. Thomas was polished. I was not polished so 192 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: much so that Zaven moved me to strong safety and 193 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, what the hell? And 194 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean the DV coach yes, Um in training camp 195 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is this sucks? Like I 196 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: am not built for this. Just so you know, I 197 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: know I'm big, and I know it looks good at all, 198 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: but my mind is not in the box. Just so 199 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: we're clear. So about four weeks in the season, I 200 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: asked Um Mike Nolan. I said, Mike, explain to me. 201 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: I haven't played a single snap of defense. And I 202 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: know that I'm bigger and faster than I can name 203 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: all the players, but it's like, why why am I 204 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: not playing? Just tell me. He's like, Okay, it's a 205 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: good story for you. Uh, You're not playing because I 206 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: don't know where you're gonna be. So if I put 207 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Jesse Campbell out there, I know where Jesse is gonna be, 208 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: and I know if Jesse gets beat, I know he's 209 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna get beat in the right place. If I put 210 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: you out there, you're big and fast. I get it, 211 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: But that means if you make a mistake, you make 212 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: a mistake really fast in the wrong way, and I 213 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: can't live with you getting beat not knowing where you are. 214 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: It just was so foreign to me, and I was like, 215 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: wait a minute, You're actually gonna play somebody who is 216 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: less athletic because they're in the right place. Okay, So 217 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: it was ingraining me at that point in time. You 218 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: have to learn the game of football. When you look 219 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: at the NFL right now, even in this day and age, 220 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: it's not just the best athletes that play. It's the 221 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: people that can play the fastest. It's the people who 222 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: are the smartest. Don't make mistakes because coaches cannot live 223 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: with you making mistakes on stuff that they coach shoot 224 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: every single week on. And I would make mistakes. You know, 225 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: I was relying too much on the athletic ability instead 226 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: of understanding all right, that playbook says I'm supposed to 227 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: do this here, and I did not do that. Okay, 228 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: I can see why I'm not playing makes sense. Studying 229 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: learned this jilt took another my rookie year, I didn't 230 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: play one single snap of defense. Well, obviously it all 231 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: worked out for you, yet worked out pretty good for you. 232 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: Just quickly and wrapping up, um, you know that. Uh. 233 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: In a couple of weeks on Christmas Eve, the Giants 234 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: play the Vikings and I had a chance to do 235 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: a poper's perspective with Kerry Collins because obviously forty one 236 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: and nothing, but I just I want to get your 237 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: thoughts really quickly because we talked about this game, and 238 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: you know, it felt like a blowout. It didn't turn 239 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: out to be a blowout. Dixon's kickoff return, your amazing 240 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: pick six defense perspective with that Vikings game, I mean, 241 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: obviously the offense was awesome, but you know they had 242 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: Culpepper Moss, Robert Smith and Chris Carter and you' to 243 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: a gooseg up on it was? That? Was that the 244 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: best too back to back weeks you ever had as 245 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: a professional. Absolutely, And don't forget Jake Greed in there 246 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: as well, big old receiver without a doubt, Like I 247 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: don't think we've ever been I've ever been a part 248 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: of a team that was as dialed in as we 249 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: were going into Minnesota. So the confidence that we got 250 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: in beating Philly because defensive we played great goods Philly. UM. 251 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: Going into Minnesota, we felt so good about that, like 252 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: and it worked. Everything that we put together, work, every play, 253 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: every defense, every adjustment worked, maybe to a fault that 254 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: we thought it was just gonna be like that the 255 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: next or two weeks later against Tampa Bay because not 256 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: Tampa UM, sorry Baltimore, thank you in Tampa, because it 257 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: was just like clicking that Minnesota game, like whatever was 258 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: called from whatever standpoint worked the whole game. It was awesome. Yeah. Well, Jason, Jason, 259 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: I wanna thank you for taking a little time and 260 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: joining us UM with the holidays coming up. Uh, Merry Christmas, 261 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: hoppy holidays to you and your family, and and thank 262 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us and taking us down 263 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: memory lane. And I learned something now, don't dive and 264 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: don't undercut in that defense or you could be screwed. 265 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: So on Papa's perspective, we've learned don't dive, undercut, or 266 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: not stook. These three things. 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