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Speaker 1: Maybe that's a regional thing. Oh it's a reasonable commercial

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Speaker 1: because you called it pop and I was like, oh sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I told on myself. Only only Chicago nigga would call

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Speaker 1: it pop. Detroit too, is it's a couple of us.

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Speaker 1: It's a good reference. Pop pop, Brandon pop. You're Thursday. No,

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Speaker 1: I ain't Thursday. I don't know chips. Your man's racists,

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Speaker 1: money stuff. I can't tell me. Welcome to another phenomenal

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Speaker 1: episode of My Mama Told Old Me, the podcast where

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Speaker 1: we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theories and we finally work to prove that the S

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Speaker 1: in a S curl does in fact stand for sprite.

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Speaker 1: Follow the money, follow the bubbles, people. This thing goes

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Speaker 1: all the way to the top. I'm taping for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like these ns as I'm understanding you correctly, they're

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Speaker 1: they're dipping their hair in sprite, and that's what keeps

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Speaker 1: it juicy and luxurious. I think that it is. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's spright as we drink it like. I

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Speaker 1: think it's early in the sprite process. But yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got you. It's the way that like those rubber

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Speaker 1: bouncy balls start off as a liquid then they become

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Speaker 1: that you're saying that that we're getting sprite remixed at

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Speaker 1: its most remixed, like you know, crude oil. I think

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Speaker 1: that s curl is spright. Yeah, that makes that makes

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Speaker 1: perfect sense to me. I can already tell our guests

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Speaker 1: today he has thoughts on this, So chump in fuck

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Speaker 1: it well, will intro. You have to. I need to

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Speaker 1: know what you're thinking. I'm just thinking of which part

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Speaker 1: crude part of sprite, I'm thinking of the fruit, right,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, this could be possible if you stick

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Speaker 1: like blueberries from from coming to America, like the right.

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Speaker 1: But once you get to the fruit to fruit toast

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Speaker 1: corn serve, I'm like, damn, you know no I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying it's right after they put the bubbles in,

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Speaker 1: I think, but I don't know when the bubbles come in.

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Speaker 1: Like That's why it's such a funny answer, because because

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Speaker 1: niggas don't know how pop is made. So we're sitting

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Speaker 1: here like, dude, the bubbles go first or is that

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Speaker 1: is that the finishing time you are that They don't

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Speaker 1: want you to know. They don't want you to know. Bro,

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Speaker 1: it's pro proprietary blend. If you knew when the bubbles

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Speaker 1: went in, you could make your own as curl. That's

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Speaker 1: that's where it goes to the top. Yeah, they don't

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Speaker 1: want you to know. They want to. I just want to.

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Speaker 1: I want to dip my hand. It's some sprite right now?

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Speaker 1: Do you gotta dip your head in some sprite? If

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Speaker 1: encouraging you to dip your head and sprite, you goddamn

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Speaker 1: right we are. You need to be dipping head and spray.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's some churches that baptized niggas. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a sect of Christianity there. You know, you got

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Speaker 1: the people that the snakes and it's a sprite group

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Speaker 1: of nes to you know what I mean. And they

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Speaker 1: prayed to that drake from the commercial whose face pops open,

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Speaker 1: and yea, of all the sprite commercials, that was top

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Speaker 1: five for me. That was pretty that was a pretty

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Speaker 1: good one. I obviously, who could forget the sprite dunk.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't god Free, wouldn't he the one that did

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Speaker 1: who doesn't who remembers the sprite dunk that was the

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Speaker 1: you call it spriting because of that? No, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: just shouldn't to keep it because I remember to keep

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Speaker 1: When the money was good. Yeah, he was making good money.

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Speaker 1: We we have to get into your conspiracy theory today

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Speaker 1: because because and we didn't even I can introduce you properly.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm realizing we just started sucking talking. But our

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Speaker 1: know him from all kinds of ship ten year old time,

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Speaker 1: you know him from honey Boy. More importantly and most importantly,

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Speaker 1: you know him from his brand new comedy special. It's

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Speaker 1: on Hulu, so fucking funny. Give it up. It's called

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Speaker 1: Spiritual Nigga. Give it up for our guests, Mr Byron Bower. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I only got one IoT to say, are those mass producers.

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Speaker 1: We're so happy you're here, stank hoodie or not you you?

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Speaker 1: I love this special You're great. I think you came

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Speaker 1: to us with a conspiracy theory that is very I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's gonna get us into into a heavy

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Speaker 1: conversation right away, which I'm excited about. You said, my

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Speaker 1: tell me more. Oh, don't make me lead off, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: It's just coming from a place of like a different

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of this country, which started on slavery

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Speaker 1: It's like cargo and like livestock. So you know, that's

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Speaker 1: So you're, but if they're employing race, then doesn't that

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Speaker 1: it is truly a money conversation that built our wants

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Speaker 1: the two it's really two of the poorest groups that

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Speaker 1: I want to say, the poor whites and the poor blacks.

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Speaker 1: that a function and is your point to say that

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Speaker 1: think the racism was even available to be experienced. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it was out when you're in the woods.

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Speaker 1: It's other stuff that's important, you know exactly, you know

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Speaker 1: think bears are racist. I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: You'll meet song and they ain't racist at all. No, No,

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Speaker 1: quite the opposite. They all like booty hole, you know

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Speaker 1: Not yet spiritually. I think we're not even spiritually. But uh,

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Speaker 1: in the Contract of America, it shows where black people

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Speaker 1: which is socio economics to even help my people. Oh

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Speaker 1: So race ain't even involved in that. It's all social economics,

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Speaker 1: be the point of reference on this, you too, So

425
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Speaker 1: what the survey everything we say, I am in no

426
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: way affiliated with North Korea. One of the things that

427
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: the that the data found is that, based on on

428
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: the information of eighty countries that they surveyed, countries like

429
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: the US, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and even

430
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: a lot of Latin American countries minus Venezuela and the

431
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: Dominican Republic were actually the most racially tolerant on the list.

432
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: I could believe that. I don't think other places are

433
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: as much of melting pots as we are either Europe

434
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: America and then like I don't, I don't, I don't

435
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: think most places are nearly as racially diverse. Like bro

436
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: I was, I was shocked by that. Mexico. I'm shocked

437
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: by shocked, you know what I mean. Yeah, they said,

438
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: they said the Dominican probably because of Haiti and also

439
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: like the they're not black, the colorless ship that happens

440
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: there where they go out, and that surprised me about Mexico.

441
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: And I went to the d R you know, I mean,

442
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 1: I've been to the d R before and uh, you know,

443
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: bless bless everyone and d R bless all the Haitians

444
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: because it was a Haitian dude that really opened my

445
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: eyes because a lot of the Haitians in the DAR

446
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: was not a lot of them, but the ones that

447
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: I would run into it in the town I was at,

448
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: but asked for change and they knew I was from

449
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: America and they was like, he showed me his scars

450
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: and he was like, we we get beat by the

451
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: police too. He's like, the only difference is y'all have

452
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: a chance. Mm hmm, yeah, meaning that is just a

453
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: way of life. There that can never be reformatted, versus

454
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: us who could at least like appeal and scream out

455
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: for help and maybe something that's done. No, no, no.

456
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: When I was in when I was in Paris, you

457
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: irma ville. I asked some black people like, how can

458
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: you become wealthy if you don't play sports or sale

459
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: drip books? And it was like it's hard for us.

460
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: Now in America, you got one idea and they change

461
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: your life. Right, you can hit TV show, you could create,

462
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: invent the supersca, you can you can hit a lot,

463
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: you can do a you can do a numerous things

464
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: that could change your your family's life for generations, and

465
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: other countries don't have that. You know, in Japan they

466
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: got a Korean town. I'm not laughing at anything specifically. Yeah, yeah,

467
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: don't the Koreans hate the Japanese. Well that it was

468
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: the slaves in Japan. Yeah. That was one of the

469
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: things that the these surveys sort of unpacks is that

470
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: they some of the the racial bias that comes from

471
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: some of these places. For example, South Korea is weirdly

472
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: very high on the list of places that express racial intolerance.

473
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: But one of the reasons they pointed to. It is

474
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: like if you have a par well that, yeah, they love.

475
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: But part of what they're saying is that those pop lockers,

476
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: they have a racial intolerance to a specific group that

477
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: was their enemy for so long. So it's Japanese people

478
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: more than it is like, Oh, we hate everybody anywhere,

479
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: not you know, living next to us kind of thing, right.

480
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: I I also want to back up two points to

481
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: the idea that I think that in America you can't

482
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: get rich. But I don't think poverty is nearly is

483
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: devastating anywhere else in the first world as it is

484
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: in America either. I don't think that. I don't think

485
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: that poverty, like extreme poverty anywhere else in the developed world.

486
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it as terrible as it is in America.

487
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: Does that make sense, meaning that like UK poverty is

488
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: not nearly as bad as American poverty. I don't think so. No, Bro,

489
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: I've been a Palestine. But that's not that's not what

490
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking to. That's not that's not even the world

491
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: that I'm talking about. I'm talking to about. Like if

492
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about Europe specifically, like Harris and stuff like that,

493
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: like Western Europe Australia. You know what I'm saying, New

494
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: Zealand and all the places that are sort of assigned.

495
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, as far as like as far as like

496
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: wealthy countries, I think our poverty is the worst. Yeah,

497
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: except for like maybe China, bro and Palestine. They burn trash.

498
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: They don't even have sanitation systems. They don't know. I

499
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: believe that, and I mean that's how it isn't surely

500
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: on as well. But that's not like one of the

501
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: countries with wealth. You don't see what I'm saying. Yes,

502
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: like like the countries that they're not doing that in

503
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: Israel is essentially Palestinians, Palestine Israel. But you know what

504
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I look, don't make me defend Israel. Where

505
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: are you standing on the Jewish s not? This is

506
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: not going to be the episode where I have to go. Actually,

507
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying for the people that it can find it

508
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: that way. They're not burning the trash. But I think

509
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: racism is worse in other places because we have at

510
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: least a platform to speak on. We can at least

511
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: go in front of the White House with signs where

512
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: they other countries can't do that. Hate the Haitians can't

513
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: do that. Man. When when I said they had a

514
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: curfew and d R and they was coming out locking

515
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: Haitians up, throw them in the back of paddiwagon at

516
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: midnight and the armed forces will walk the streets. They

517
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: will cover the whole streets. Man. It was crazy. And

518
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: then they see me and they anna, I've been. It's

519
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: so many places where I'm like, oh, I'm black in America,

520
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: but somewhere else some of American, you know what I mean,

521
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: Like I've been to Afghanistan. Ain't so many places I

522
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: can go that my girl can't go because of this

523
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: blue passport we carry around. So that's why I have

524
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: the point of view that I have, because we all

525
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: are privileged. We just don't know it when it comes

526
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: to the world, and it's because of the pain and

527
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: what we went through. Everybody's looking at that. So one

528
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: of the things that I guess it then also makes

529
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: me think of is the question sort of and they

530
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: acknowledge this and the survey. The question also comes with

531
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: the level of bias, right that if I ask you,

532
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 1: how how willing are you to or tolerant are you

533
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: of having a race to a neighbor of a different race,

534
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: the question becomes biased in terms of my education and culture.

535
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: That might teach me to not openly be like, yeah,

536
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't want some Indian person living next to me.

537
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: And so they said that, like in America especially, we're

538
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: more likely to lie on a survey like this and

539
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: say that we're mostly tolerant even though secretly, no, I

540
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: don't want whoever the funk living next to me. Ye,

541
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: when that music comes, when the now base come, at

542
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: the least, that's when the intolerance come. You know. That's

543
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: that And you're like, I don't maybe I don't like them, maybe,

544
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: but I've been on the other side of the right,

545
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: Like I'll come with heavy bassed music from traps here

546
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: and then somebody come with like some trombones, like nah, guitars,

547
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: loud guitars coming down the street. I'm like, we gotta go. Yeah. People,

548
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: but you know, were blended because you got the Nazi

549
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: saying that the uh Kanye West was right about the Jews. Yeah,

550
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: the Nazis have done that a few times. This is

551
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: they're never teaming up with the guys with life. How

552
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: does this always happen on this podcast? Yeah, So that

553
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: that just shows you how when I say, like, no

554
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: matter if you where you at or what's going on,

555
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: you could be in a racist situation. Not when you're hungry,

556
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: when you're real hungry, all this ship go away. It's

557
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: one of those things. And the Nazis holding up that

558
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: sign is a version of that. They don't have a leader.

559
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: They'll take they'll take anybody right now. We just want

560
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: to be heard. They want to be heard too. Yeah,

561
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: but that but their rhetoric is like very harmful. But

562
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: you have to acknowledge that. I understand everybody wants to

563
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: be heard, you know what I'm saying, But like it's

564
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: like that, that rhetoric is very harmful. I understand they

565
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: want to be heard by Yeah, yeah Nazis. Nazis is

566
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: holding a sign. How do you feel about that? Grandma?

567
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: She won't They used to hang people when she was young.

568
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: Her to her, this ain't even hard for no more.

569
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, yeah. But to get to the hanging,

570
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: they probably had a sign ahead of time. They probably

571
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: started with a sign with the probably did some signs

572
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: hanging at hanging at seven. If you're free and interest

573
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: every then grows, everything grows at one point Jesus was

574
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: just a dude telling another dude. I'm the son of God.

575
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: Like everything scales up, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

576
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: I can agree with you that they losing that when

577
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 1: they started to look for Kanye West or whoever. Yeah,

578
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's they're down bad for good reason. And

579
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: here's the here's a powerful thing that goes what I'm saying.

580
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: That White Lives Matter is owned by a black person.

581
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: It's trademark. That's just good business. That's spider. That's what

582
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: started the Weather channel. Baby. Remember what I said, how

583
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: you gotta do it. If you won't change, you gotta

584
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: do it from the end. We gotta we gotta do

585
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: it how it was done. I don't disagree with that.

586
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: You're talking about the people who food was so bland

587
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: that they colonized the world. That's true. The spice routes,

588
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: the spice routs were the beginning. That's the type of

589
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: hunger we need, you know what I mean, We need

590
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: bland food hunger. I'm tired of this this ship, this

591
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: hats a role with no fucking spices on it. Pheasant.

592
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: I need some curry, man. And so you're saying, yeah,

593
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: you're saying that with that we we should be pursuing

594
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: similar levels of like tyranny. Should we be like tearing

595
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: people ship up and fucking like because that's what they

596
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: had to do to get all that sweet spicy food. Spiritually,

597
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying life's of circles, and uh, you know, everything

598
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 1: starts with good intentions and then it goes wayward. Right,

599
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: So even as we heal as a group of people,

600
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: which I think we should do first internally heal, then

601
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: we could get up, probably get on one accord better

602
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: because we are a traumatized group of people. And once

603
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: we do that, then we could go and start doing

604
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: some tyranny. But the difference is we won't have black guilt.

605
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: Now we went full circle. And maybe maybe wait a minute,

606
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: maybe part of the reason white people didn't feel anything

607
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: for so long, it's because of the generation before them.

608
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: It was the white people who were the victims of

609
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: someone's syranny and then circled back and circled back. And

610
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: this is just what we have to go from with

611
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: the history books in in place. It's a pyramid schame. Everybody,

612
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: everybody has been a slave, exactly everybody has been a

613
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: slave throughout throughout history. I had a joke about it.

614
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: I was like, black people did this, ship white people did,

615
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: We wouldn't be It wouldn't be no such thing as

616
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: white guilt. Slave slavery will be a dance that we

617
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: would do at the club. I'm like, we killed each

618
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: other on records and single body, so we conquered the

619
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: whole world, you know what I mean? We would have

620
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: will be a ball. All music will probably be sunk,

621
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: and white music probably be done. But you know, yeah,

622
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: but there'd be like a two year period. There will

623
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: be like a two year period where like young Thug

624
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: could sing about being like king of the world and

625
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: that'd be pretty fucking That'd be great music for a while.

626
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: The country music will be out and and by the way,

627
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: they don't give a ship if their music sucks, so

628
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: we would still like our music the same level. You

629
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: know that. You know what, I don't care because they're

630
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: making money off of it. Yeah care, Yeah, I get it.

631
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift did one point five million in a week.

632
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: She's fine. She don't give a shit about none of that.

633
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: I wish I had a Taylor Swift song. I knew

634
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: the reference. Shake it off. She shaked it, damn it.

635
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: She did shake it up. That's it. You don't have

636
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: to do that to me. You don't have to do that.

637
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: Keep believing in yourself. I know, I'm trying. I'm trying

638
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: to you know. You gotta go to the gym every day.

639
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: One of the final things that I sort of wanted

640
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: to ask myself inside of this is this question of

641
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: like hate crimes. Right, if we're a way of measuring

642
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: I guess racial intolerance, in my opinion, you could point

643
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: directly to like hate crimes, and in out of the

644
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: ten thousand and eight hundred people who reported hate crimes

645
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: in the United States, nearly sixty two percent of those

646
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: were race based hate crimes. Sixty thousand, eight hundreds, So

647
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: you're about six thousand, seven hundred or so that I

648
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: think is the correct number. But but when you break

649
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: that down in terms of the actual population of America,

650
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: it is point zero zero zero zero to six zero

651
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: six four percent of the population that's experiencing hate hate crimes,

652
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: which is almost a negligible number. Thus, maybe leaning to

653
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: words the argument that that at least was being presented

654
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: that this is not in fact a racist and this

655
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: feels very cooney, uh defended with numbers and ship but

656
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: it it is in fact, not quote unquote a racist country.

657
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I think there's all kinds of

658
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: complications to that. Would you report it? Like, I don't

659
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: know if most of them are reported. I don't know

660
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: of that. You're you're acting like that was white on

661
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: black crime, which already like you know what I mean. Well,

662
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: let me be clear, I'm not picking a side in this.

663
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't want you to use and I'm merely reporting

664
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Speaker 1: off of the things I read on read it. Now

665
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: when it calls you, I'm like, yeah, when it comes

666
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: to hey, we don't know if it's a thing of like, oh,

667
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: I hate you know this group of people, or I

668
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: hate people that hit the brakes on the on the

669
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: freeway for no reason, you know they I mean, I'm

670
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: from allowing they get a shot too. So you're saying

671
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: you might shoot an early breaker and then they go, man,

672
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: that was racist, and you're like, no, no, no, it's

673
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: more specific to Yeah, this ain't got nothing to do

674
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: with race. It's more to be as a spiritual this

675
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: guys were being present because motherfucker' was texting on the

676
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: phone and I'm trying to get to where I got

677
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: to go so right, I think that the obvious also

678
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: misstep and maybe this is what you were going to

679
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: Bory is like, at at its core, hate crimes are

680
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: not the essence of what racism was most effective at.

681
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: I think that's like the most extreme outlet education. Yeah,

682
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: all that things are like, I don't think the majority

683
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: of people who are even self described racists would ever

684
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: commit a hate crime and within their lifetime. You know

685
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's it's such a small it's such

686
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: a small group to judge what the overall problem is.

687
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: But they might vote to keep your water infest with

688
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: with fucking worms or whatever. The fund is happening elsewhere.

689
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, that, let's study on how many

690
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: of them followed me in the grocery store. Not the

691
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: grocery store. I look like I can afford the groceries,

692
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: but any place that sells clothing. But you know, I

693
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: met somebody who uncles owns the water supply. What you

694
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: could do that you can own the water supply and

695
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: listen from the beginning of the thing, Right, if the

696
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: difference one of the different between us and a group

697
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: of people who some people for entertainment purpose, so claim

698
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: owns everything? What to do is people, I was waiting

699
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: to see if you were gonna say it or if

700
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: you're just gonna play playing same alright, I felt bad

701
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: when I said it, So someone's like, looks, but it's

702
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: so claim. We're not saying this is true or not.

703
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 1: But some people say that a group of people owns everything, right,

704
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: And I'm like my mental like, well, if somebody trying

705
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: to kill my whole race, then I will want or

706
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: we should try to own the water if we think

707
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: we're being poisoned the medical thing, if we think that

708
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: we're being poisoned, that we should trying to get control

709
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: of everything. Right now, I agree with that. Then you

710
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: ain't in a position to be like deal with the

711
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: red lining and stuff like that no more because we

712
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: were red line on sales. Like we're doing a t

713
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: the right in Atlanta. But that's a whole another thing.

714
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: That's a whole another thing, you know what I mean? Yeah,

715
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: I do think to some extent what you're speaking to

716
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: is more like a an active of fear that leads

717
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: to protection. Right that, Like, if you terrorize a group

718
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: of people, they have to figure out a way to

719
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: effectively survive, and that effective survival might come in the

720
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: form of, you know, making a music that allows you

721
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: to survive, learning a skill that allows you to survive,

722
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: or building relationships that allow you to survive. And if

723
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: you happen to flourish inside of that, that's not you

724
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: being uh some sort of criminal mastermind. That's just you

725
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: doing exactly what was necessary for your survival. Yeah. But

726
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: we still a subservient group of people because we was

727
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: handed this religion meaning black people being handed Christianity Christianity. Yeah,

728
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: so we still subservient to the God. And you know

729
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: two uh figures who we might perceive God look like,

730
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: and we ask God for things versus meeting God. Have

731
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: wait nobody ever you know here and Nigga say, hey, God, uh,

732
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: can you bless people to call? I'm gonna get half

733
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: the money mm hmm. But once you start thinking like that,

734
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: he would meet you halfway. But the lessons that you

735
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: need to learn to get half the money or being gone,

736
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, this is a whole other we're

737
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: talking about the existence of God or not. I have

738
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: a whole other podcasts with the feelings about this. Well,

739
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: even if you don't, that's even better. So it's better

740
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: because it makes you hustle even more because now you

741
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: gotta get by the whole car yourself. But let me

742
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: tell you something, most street niggas believe in God because uh,

743
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: you have you need protection. I have also very I

744
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 1: have very specific reasons I don't believe in God. It's

745
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: not like it's definitely not like an ingrained thing. It's

746
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: like a bitterness situation. That's a good place to be

747
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: in though. Yeah, it makes you work hard, and it

748
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: makes you you will one day find other beauties that

749
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: might one day make you be like it is something

750
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: out there, whether it's an alien or whatever. You know

751
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: what I mean. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Well we're constant search.

752
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: It's a constant search. Yeah. So that that's the beauty

753
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: of it because it puts you on a journey versus

754
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: somebody who's like, all right, I'm alright right here, I'm

755
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: alright in my hood, I know what the world is, yeah,

756
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: and my white Jesus peace, I'm stay right here, you

757
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But at its core that argument

758
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: is is, for example, at the root of of communism,

759
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: right that like communism, I think they call religion the

760
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: opiate of the mass opioid of the masses, because they're

761
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: essentially saying that like it's just cooked in to keep

762
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: you in a position of subservience rather than sort of

763
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: like figuring out a way for everybody to benefit as

764
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: like a larger community that like it, that it forces

765
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: a hierarchy to have a religion, as like you're leading

766
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: decision maker for your life. Yeah, but I mean you

767
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: still should like meditate and have a direct connection versus

768
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: listening to you know, somebody liked it, who might send

769
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: your key as to war. Right. And I think they're

770
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: I think, to be exercise. I don't think they're saying

771
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: you can't be spiritual. I think they're saying you probably

772
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: shouldn't like bow to Jesus just because like your country

773
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: told you too. Like that's that's where that becomes complicated. Yeah,

774
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: I think so I agree with that. Yeah, are you

775
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: saying your communists Thankston, I'm this recording. I'm not I'm

776
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: not smart enough though, I didn't you read that that

777
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: came from that came from my heart. Universe never told

778
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: me that about comunist you know. That came from my

779
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: heart and the bottom of my couch. That's that was

780
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: all the parts that matter to me. No, I think, uh,

781
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: I think, I don't even tell about comedy. Is it

782
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: was like I think got merely suggesting that what you're

783
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: you're saying about religion being part of our sort of

784
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: like captivity, is also cooked into what other economic systems

785
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: would push for in terms of fixing things, that by

786
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: removing religion, we are liberating ourselves of at least one

787
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: version of our shackles. Well, I say, just like when

788
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: anything else, we need to change the dialogue. I'm not

789
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: saying that you shouldn't have the discipline of this one thing,

790
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: but you know, you gotta watch she was telling the story, right,

791
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: That's one thing. I look at America like they say,

792
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: America is the father you know, uh you know, or

793
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: the president is the father of the country. So you

794
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking at them, and whatever they do, I'm like,

795
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. So if the preacher out

796
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: you you know, preaching on Sunday and fucking on Monday,

797
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: and that's just what we're doing, all right, Well, I

798
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: pray that Joe Biden is uh fucking on a Sunday

799
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: and and preach your on the Monday. I pray that

800
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: he has that that to lead us with, because that

801
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: sounds pretty cool. Wait, you said fucking on Sunday and

802
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: preaching on Monday. I'll be dirty dogging it like the

803
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: devil wants him to. I thought, the devil wants you

804
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: to cut, but not want you to go dog. No,

805
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: the devil. The Devil's like, man, go crazy, I want

806
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: you to feel it before you burn. I thought. More,

807
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: God wants you to like feeling and bust nuts soon recreate,

808
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: and the devil more like eat the booty hole. Oh,

809
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: flip it over. I see this one meant for that.

810
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: God didn't create this for this, and he like, fuck it,

811
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm better than God. Yeah. I don't think the devil

812
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: wants you to stay in one position for too long, Ladies,

813
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: I really don't know. He calls it the devil, it's

814
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: the devil hole. Well, think about the circle. We got

815
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: both in us. We got we got God and the devil.

816
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: And you have been talking about the circle the whole time.

817
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: And that's not unlike a booty hole. I see, I

818
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: see the connection you really build. That's what I'm taking

819
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: your own truths without you actually doing it. The circle

820
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: is very important. Well, fellas, I think we did it.

821
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: I think I think nail. I think we nailed whatever

822
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: this possibly could have been. This is beautiful. I think

823
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: ending on booty hole conversation is the most accurate way

824
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: that we could have done this. Byron, could you tell

825
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: the people where they can find you and what cool

826
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: ship you have going on? I'm on Instagram at Byron Bibles,

827
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: so just google my name Byron Bibbles. Check out the

828
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Speaker 1: special Spiritual Nigger. That's how you said if you're black,

829
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: if you're white, you gotta whisper at the water. If you, uh,

830
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: the Nazis say spiritual Nigger. I'll just playing the Nazis

831
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: don't really watch it at all, but if you do,

832
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Speaker 1: write me and let me know what your thoughts and

833
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 1: uh yeah, man, just watch all my ship on every platform.

834
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 1: I'll be on Apple next year. Hell yeah, watch watch

835
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: Byron ships so funny and BORI. Could you tell the

836
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: people where they can find you? Cool guy jokes City

837
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Speaker 1: seven on Instagram. All this stuff is there. Come see

838
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: me December three in Seattle. Come see me December four

839
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: in Portland. Come see me November eighteen. If Faded Denver

840
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: with Stephen Aj who you heard on this podcast also

841
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: talking Crazy and uh, as always, you can follow me

842
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: at Langston Kurrman. I'd love to hear from you. I

843
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing going on at the moment. I'm just chilling.

844
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes you just gotta stare off in the

845
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: distance and reflect. And that's what Papa is doing right now.

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Speaker 1: So just follow me to see what I'm reflecting on.

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Speaker 1: And and as always, if you want to send us

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Speaker 1: your own conspiracy theories, your own uh your own arguments,

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Speaker 1: your own drops. We need drops. We would love to

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00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: get some more wild ass drops from you. Please send

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Speaker 1: them to my Mama pod at gmail dot com. Otherwise

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Speaker 1: that's it, bye, bitch, because of growing bies my crop

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00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: chips in your mails A Koala bears are racist. The

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Speaker 1: Oslers money us in manning turkey stuff. I can't tell

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Speaker 1: me