1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: A single best idea on a huge economic day. Thank you. 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: The revisions were just something Scarletfoo and I at ten 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: am doing that dovetailing and around that key appointment a 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: worse number. You really wonder what the politics will be 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: on that, more than the jobs. I guess we're twenty 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: five basis points for the FED meeting, some people alluding 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: to fifty basis points. There's a CPI information coming out 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: here this week that maybe will again once again royal markets. 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: We'll have to see on that. Joining us this morning 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: was Nancy Tangler of Laffer Tangler. She was just brilliant 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: on the courage to be in the market. She is 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: a bull. We talked to her about the view forward. 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 3: I think they're doing a lot of things correctly, but 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: I hate et this takeover of private sector companies, and 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: doctor Laffer's come out and said, well, if anyone can 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: do it, it's President Trump, and that may well be, 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: but I think it's bad precedent and I think they're 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 3: overstepping the executive. 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Then respond to the gloom crew that says there'll be 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: a jump condition where the smooth curves of our equity 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: bullishness break. How do you invest given the shock potential 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: of a Trump policy gone wrong. 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: Well, we'll do what we did in April. We'll buy more. 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: So we were you know, we were stepping in on 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: April third, April first, and March because you see these 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: dislocations and you say it is the AI trade over. 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: It isn't. I've heard so many people say, oh, well 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: there's that MIT study. Nobody's making money with AI. That 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: is not what we're hearing from the companies on the 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: conference calls. We're seeing margin expansion, We're seeing less hiring, 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: which I think is a paradigm shift that is distorting 33 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: things like the ism manufacturing number. 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: Nancy Tanger there would leave Tangler. We've done a little 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: more municipal bonds Now all the pros are telling us 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: priced down, yield up. The municipal bonds are an uncommon value. 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: Eating Vance rather not eating France. France is falling apart, 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: eating Vance. Morgan Stanley's doing better than good. Craig Brandon 39 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: joined us from eating Vance to talk about taking advantage 40 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: of tax free bonds. 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: The problem I have is that fixed income investors often 42 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: don't look at muni's because they think that's just for 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, people in that tax record. Yeah, I look 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: and say where Muni's are right now? They should be 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: part of everyone's fixed income portfolio. Right. So I was 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: in a fixed income meeting last week and one of 47 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: our highield portfolio managers was talking about high yield and 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: you know, high old spreads are sort of in a 49 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, three hundred below three hundred range, and you know, 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: high yield the indexes like seven percent. And then they 51 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: turned to me and said, okay, what about Munie's. I said, 52 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: a seven percent yield in Munie's on a tax equivalent basis, 53 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: you can get over an eight percent for triple A bonds, right, 54 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: So don't just compare Munie's to Muni's. I compare Muni's 55 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: to other fixed income classes. I just think investors need 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: to look at Muni's as part of a broader fixed 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: income portfolio for everybody, not for just you know, the 58 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allens of. 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: The world, Craig Brandon of Eaton Vance. They're also at 60 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's fan. It's just simple. The podcasts that working 61 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: at a meeting yesterday with our podcast people, the single 62 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: best idea of people humbled by the growth that we're 63 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: seeing across the nation and around the world with surveillance 64 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: and what we're doing with podcasts. We're on Apple, we're 65 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: on Spotify, we're on YouTube podcasts. 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