1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Previously on Queen of the Cone. While in New York, 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Daniel Miller pleads no contest over Zoom to one third 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: degree felony identity theft charge for her Sara Sota Bank scamp. 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: She then boards a plane and flies from New York 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: to Florida, checks into the local Ritz Carlton, and shows 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: up bright and early the next morning to be sentenced 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: by a Florida judge and the objection to the legal 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: accuracy Yes. Daniel's attorney, however, throws a wrench into what's 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be a pretty straightforward sentencing hearing by objecting 10 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: to nearly every piece of evidence in a case that 11 00:00:51,280 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: his client already played no contest too. He's also trying 12 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: to get the judge to believe this Daniel Miller in 13 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: his courtroom right now is not the same Daniel Miller 14 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: who was convicted in that New York spot case three 15 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: years ago. Looking at a document people of the State 16 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: of New York and Daniel miller name is spelled the 17 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: same way. Still looking for anything like the data burst, 18 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: something that identified we're talking about. Oh and by the way, 19 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: according to her attorney, all the cell phones confiscated from 20 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: that Jaguar Daniel Miller was driving while she was scamming. 21 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Bank after bank after bank are not hers. Eventually, the 22 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: prosecutor has just about as much as he can take 23 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: and pushes back hard. The state is actually going to continued, 24 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: so daniel Miller has to spend the weekend in Sara Sota, Florida, 25 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: so she can attend to part two of the sentencing 26 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: hearing early next week. But then out of nowhere, Mother 27 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: Nature throws her a lifeline. But it's gonna be a 28 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: major hurricane approaching our coast. The center is two hundred 29 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: thirty miles south of Sarasota. Hurricane Ian seems to be 30 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: helping daniel Miller at this point. Yes, for sure. I'm 31 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: Jonathan Walton and this is Queen of the con The 32 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: Rich Girl, Episode seven, Pack your ship and move tonight. 33 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: Entire buildings swept away, families trapped by floodwaters. Monstrous Hurricane 34 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Ian now lashing the Florida Peninsula. Hurricane Ian mis landfall 35 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: in Fort Myers, Florida on September Sarah Soda seventy six 36 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: miles so the north is spared at the very last minute, 37 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: as is Danielle Miller. Her Sarah Sota sentencing hearing is 38 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: postponed indefinitely because everyone's in hurricane mode battening down the 39 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: hatches and the courts are closed. So Danielle boards a 40 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: plane and flies back to her Manhattan apartment and resumes 41 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: her life. But I'm discovering her living situation in the 42 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: Big Apple that she portrays on social media as glamorous 43 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: and exciting is actually anything. But the headline is con 44 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,559 Speaker 1: artist Danielle Miller, who flaunted lavish lifestyle facing near reality 45 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: and needs a roomy. Zachary Houson is reading an article 46 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: he wrote. He's the real estate editor for the New 47 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: York Post. I had never heard of daniel Miller, but 48 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: he is a hip millennial with an appreciation for the unusual. 49 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: I cover residential real estate in New York City, and 50 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: I have a real preference for quirky, kind of not 51 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: your typical real estate stories, and what goes down in 52 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: February two is not your typical real estate story. First, 53 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: a bizarre social media post surfaces in a New York 54 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: City Facebook group where roommates offer up places to live 55 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: in the hopes of finding other roommates to move in 56 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: with them. But this post is different because it mentions 57 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: the prospect of con artist daniel Miller being one of 58 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: the roommates you'd share the apartment with. How did this 59 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: story come across your desk? It came across thanks to 60 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: a Facebook's leuth who seems to belong to one of 61 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: many Facebook housing groups that seek to connect local New 62 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: Yorkers in knee of a new place to live with 63 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: actual apartments that are looking for new roommates, and around 64 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: the time that we received the screenshots of the post, 65 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: which detailed the fact that Danielle Miller lives there and 66 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: also detailed what she's accused of. That post was deleted 67 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: at the time that we received the screenshots. Zachary publishes 68 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: excerpts from that now infamous roommate wanted to add in 69 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: The New York Post in his February fifteenth article. It's 70 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: a very very New York City situation. According to Zachary's peace, 71 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: an actress named Julia Cornell is one of three roommates 72 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: living in a Greenwich Village apartment. She's moving out and 73 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: is looking for someone to replace her as a roommate. 74 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: The rent dollars a month. She then goes into oddly 75 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: exquisite detail about the other two roommates, who, as it 76 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: turns out, are Danielle Miller and the guy named Brett Joseph. 77 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: Julia's Facebook post says quote, both roommates live in the 78 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: basement but have full access to the living room in 79 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: kitchen area. Brett works as a promoter and sleeps until 80 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: five pm, what tends to have guests over until three 81 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: to four am. Daniel is currently on house arrest for 82 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: identity theft and financial fraud. She keeps to herself downstairs. 83 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Usually when I poke around these sites, these hassing ads 84 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: tend to say there are two roommates, the roommates aren't named. 85 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: Where there's one roommate, there's a roommate who works nights, 86 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: or we're people who have cats and we're looking for 87 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: a new roommate who also has a cat. This got 88 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: into some unexpected detail. How crazy is that, though, Like 89 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: they're looking for a roommate and they're just gonna put 90 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: all the dirty laundry in the ad. Oh yeah, you're 91 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 1: gonna share it with Daniel Miller, who's under house arrest 92 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: awaiting trial. Yeah, you know, I wanted to talk to 93 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: the person who posted that at about it and thank them. Yeah, 94 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: but she would not talk to me for this story, 95 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: and I would want to ask, you know, why why 96 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: did you get into that detail? Like it's surprising? And 97 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: that's another element of this story as to why a 98 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: seemingly routine Facebook hasting ad would get into the detail 99 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: in just one sentence that and in that one sentence 100 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: a lot was said, why you would put that online? 101 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: I think it speaks to our current culture of oversharing, right, 102 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: talk about an overshare they're putting in the ad. Oh yeah, 103 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: one roommates a music promoter. The other is a woman 104 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: accused of multiple felonies under house arrest. If you don't 105 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: mind the uncle bracelet. The questions still remain, is it 106 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: honest advertising? Was it revenge? To a degree? I think 107 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: whoever posted showed some kind of anger or frustration with 108 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: the life she's living, grooming with a convict because she's 109 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: been convicted of other crimes. This is a human interest 110 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: story that has to do with New York City housing, 111 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: and it gives an impression that there is this great 112 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: democratizing force in New York City rental housing that you 113 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: can come from any walk of life, you can do anything, 114 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: you could be accused of identity theft and wire fraud, 115 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: and you will still live in an apartment that needs 116 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: a roommate. So that to me kind of hit all 117 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: the boxes that made me think, yeah, this is an 118 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: instant story for us. In a city of many, many 119 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: millions of people, you could really live with anyone. And 120 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: Danielle Miller was described in this and perhaps that's a 121 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,239 Speaker 1: reason why it seems that the ad was very quickly deleted. 122 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: But there are people who take just as fast screenshots. 123 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, you really can't tell you anything in this 124 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: day and age, right, No, the internet is forever. I 125 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: reached out to Danielle for this story. I didn't hear 126 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: back in the club, Zachary, Danielle doesn't want to talk 127 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: to The New York Post, and we already know she 128 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk to me, but she is talking. 129 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: Earlier this year, an interviewer asked her, quote, I saw 130 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: you guys were looking for a roommate, and Danielle responded, quote, no, 131 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: we're not looking for a roommate. So who posted that 132 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: on Facebook? I saw you guys were looking for a roommate. No, 133 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: we're not looking for a roommate. So who posted that 134 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: on Facebook, this little nineteen year old girl who rented 135 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: the room from us for one month that decided to 136 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: tell us she wanted to move out. I don't even 137 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: want to say her name, because she's like, she's like 138 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: from Pensacola, Florida, and like just came to New York 139 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: to be an actress and like, gosh that she could 140 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: make Like she was like, oh, like this New York 141 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: magazine article just came out, like I'm gonna get my 142 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: name in this, Like I'm gonna put this on Facebook 143 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: then sell it to the Post or whatever, give it 144 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: to the Post. But if that were true and the 145 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: actress slash roommate who made the post is just looking 146 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: for publicity, as Danielle says, why didn't she want to 147 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: talk to Zachary Houston at the New York Post. They've 148 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: got millions of readers, And why doesn't she want to 149 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: talk to me on Queen of the con We've got 150 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: millions of downloads between the two of us. Zachary and 151 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: I could have given her tons of publicity. Anyway, daniel 152 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: continues her explanation, or rather spins planation. Now, I literally 153 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: won't have anybody in my apartment like there's no one 154 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: allowed to be in my apartment, like nobody, because I 155 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: trust no one, and I was nothing but nice to 156 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: this girl. I also did a really good job of 157 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: keeping my friend's name out of any articles that were 158 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: written about me prior. Like this person that I'm living with, like, 159 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: his name is not mentioned anywhere, and he's been my 160 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: best friend for a long time. Then his name is 161 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: put in this New York Post article and in the 162 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: real estate section, like what are you doing the name 163 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: of that current roommate who Danielle says is quote her 164 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: best friend who got mentioned in that New York Post 165 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: article is club promoter Brett Joseph. He doesn't want to 166 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: talk to me either, but as luck would have it, 167 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: it's a small world after all. So there's this kid 168 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: named Brett who knows me and we had probably met 169 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: at some point. Remember Mackenzie Day, daniel Miller's former business 170 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: partner and victim, who she tells everyone is her boyfriend. 171 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: Turns out, Danielle's current roommate, Brett, knows McKenzie and actually 172 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: brad to him about being her roommate recently during the 173 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: Bitcoin conference. It was one and it was in Miami, 174 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: and we had ran into each other at a house 175 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: party at South Point, you know, and so he's like 176 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: Mackenzie and yells across we're going into this house. And 177 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit. I was like, who knows 178 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: me here? No one should, like, you know. And all 179 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden he's like, oh my god. He's like 180 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: college you whenn't see you this in that New York gotaday. 181 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: He's like, when you're coming back? And I was like, 182 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: I left, like I live in Niagara Falls. Now I had, 183 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, a different change. And so he's like, you're 184 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: never gonna guess. He's like, let me tell you when 185 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: we get upstairs. We get upstairs and this guy's like yeah. 186 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: So he's like, you're never gonna guess. He's like, I 187 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: have full of your ex girlfriends living in my house. 188 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, excuse me. I was like both my ex girlfriends. 189 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm like thinking back through my history 190 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: and my short history of New York and I'm like 191 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: there's no possible way. I was like, are you talking 192 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: about so and so? And he's like yeah, yeah, but 193 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: also Danny. And I was like what And I was like, 194 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: I was like, you live with Danny are you insane? 195 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: And he's like, I was like, oh, ship you. I 196 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: was like, you're the place that she's staying and I 197 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: was like, are you insane? I was like, you've been 198 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: exposing our friends to this woman, and so like now 199 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: it really put it all together like this. It's like 200 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: a crash pad for like starving artists and and like 201 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: you know, anyone who wants to go there at for 202 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: a after parties and ship like that. So it's a 203 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: lot of people. And so that's how you know the 204 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: girl that I was dating I am not now because 205 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: she was part of that scene and just couldn't get 206 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: it together. Is that Julia Cornell? Because she's mentioned in 207 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: an article No nos no, no, no neither. And this 208 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: girl that she was totally outside of all that, she 209 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: only been staying there a couple of she was she 210 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: rented it from for like two months recently. And then 211 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: I was like fuck off. And then I got I 212 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: left that area and I called her immediately. I was like, 213 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: whatever you're doing wherever you are, get out of that house, 214 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: immediately pack your ship and moved. And she's like, what 215 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: you're scaring me why? I was like, you're by Daniel 216 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: Miller and she's like what. I was like, Danny, Like Danny, Danny. 217 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: She's like, oh, that's the girl who had called me, 218 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: Oh you'r Beyonce And I was like no. And so 219 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: this is I was like, did she ever go into stuff? 220 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: Did she ever touched your phone? Because this girl, you know, 221 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: she's like doesn't have her stuff together as much as 222 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: I wish she would because she's once again beautifle talented, 223 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: but like she I was like, I just know that 224 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: she has a couple of late nights and passes out 225 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: unless people just go through anything of any of her ship. 226 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: And so that was the person who was like, oh man, 227 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: And I was like, do you need to like change 228 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: everything like she's she's like, no, no, nothing happened. I 229 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: was like, if you were in the house, something happened, 230 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: Like you're like you're a victim. I was like, you're 231 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry about your just not that up on your 232 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: ship and it would be super easy for anyone to 233 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: go through any of your stuff, like you need to 234 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: get this done. And so that was one of the 235 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: roommates at the time. So it's who was you know, 236 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: so what you don't you don't remember meeting britosef. But 237 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: he knew you. I mean, you know, big city kind 238 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: of stuff. But I mean he was he's quite and 239 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean this in the best way, but he's unmemorable, right, 240 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, there's nothing that like, he's a guy, 241 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: he's cool. I'm going to listen. I mean this in 242 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: the best way. You're just unmemorable. Yeah, like there's nothing, 243 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, totally average dude. I'm sure he's you know, 244 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't whatever. I wish probably should biggest friends better, 245 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: but whatever he's doing, Like, it was just nothing that 246 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: really stuck in my brain and being like you're this guy, 247 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, and then a lot of that stuff that 248 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: had to do with Danielle, like I was just like 249 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: like just pull it right out, turned off. Yeah exactly. 250 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: Now Danny has an influx of all these like what 251 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: I would call victims, like all these people coming over 252 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: that are trash, and she's like her parlor trick. You know. 253 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: It's like now she's getting his notoriety for being like 254 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: and it's like people are so like so they're like 255 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, like you know, it's like so l a, 256 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: so New York, like you know, just being like oh, 257 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: you're in the you know, no one's really thinking like, 258 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: oh there, she's probably stealing your data. And then Brett 259 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: is living through like variously through the notoriety of like 260 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I got Danny Miller in here, pro connartists, 261 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: and you know, it's like these people are just want 262 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: to be a part of it, you know, and it's 263 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: like you look at me or you look at l 264 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: A and it's just like this like upcoming model society 265 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: of like all these broke artists and ships. So you know, 266 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: it's like whatever it is, but it's still like some 267 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: like once again a parlor trick. You know. For the 268 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: most part, Mackenzie Day is actually spot on about the 269 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: parlor trick. During my investigation, I dig up a former 270 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: roommate of Daniells when she lived in Los Angeles. At first, 271 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to talk to me, but in my mind, 272 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: since this woman was her roommate, I just know Danielle 273 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: had to have scammed her at some point, so I 274 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: keep ali and finally she agrees to share her harrowing experience. 275 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: Danielle and I were roommates, and she's hurt hundreds of people. 276 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to those people that we all fell for it. 277 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: Taylor Fercus lived with daniel Miller in Los Angeles back 278 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: in three years before Danielle ever met Mackenzie Day. She's 279 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: thirty one years old with long blonde hair and kind 280 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: hazel blue eyes. Taylor had a bunch of media outlets 281 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: reach out to her about daniel Miller, and she refused 282 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: to talk to them. I don't want to support that 283 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: kind of a story. She did so much wrong and 284 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: she has screwed so many people over Like, what about 285 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: the people that are hurting from all of this. Taylor 286 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: is a successful career woman now, but boy did Danielle 287 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: Miller do a number on her eight years ago through 288 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: a series of unconscionably cruel and calculated cons And Taylor's 289 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: never talked about what happened to her publicly until now. 290 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: Everyone who reached out to you, you're talking to me. 291 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm honored, thanksly, you made it. I guess comforting when 292 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: you said that you've dealt with someone. I kind of 293 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: felt like a little bit of a comfort with it 294 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: because it is super embarrassing and I don't like talking 295 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: about it. As the victim of a con artist, I 296 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: instantly identify with other victims, and they seem to instantly 297 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: identify with me. There's just something about falling for an 298 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: elaborate scam perpetrated by someone you care about, someone you 299 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: swear you know really well, that just stays with you 300 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: forever and it leaves a permanent scar. The elaborate scam 301 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Danielle Miller pulls on Taylor Fircus is one I've never 302 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: even heard of, and I would have sworn I've heard 303 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: them all at this point. How did you meet daniel Miller? So? 304 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: I met Danielle maybe a couple of months after I 305 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: moved to l A at a local rock bar that 306 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: my friends and I would hang out at. Their friends 307 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: played music every Sunday, and one of the band DJs 308 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: that they recruited was her boyfriend at the time, and 309 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: so we just became friends with each other. It started 310 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: off just seeing each other weekly on Sunday nights, and 311 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: then it just kind of progressed, I guess, into a 312 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: friendship if you will. Hate referring to it as that. 313 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: After everything that I'm from a super small town in 314 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: the Midwest, So my first impression was of her being 315 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: a New Yorker, was that she was kind of like 316 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: She just kind of seems like this big party girl 317 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: that knew a lot of people, had a lot of connections, 318 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: and she knew how to have a good time. I 319 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: thought she was very friendly, she was outgoing. She definitely 320 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: knew how to make friends. She would make it known 321 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: that like she had money and she was a trust 322 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: fund baby because of her parents background of her dad 323 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: being a big lawyer in New York and her mom 324 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: was like an original rockhead. And she would kind of 325 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: refer to herself as like there was one time, a 326 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: little bit late or in our friendship where she would 327 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: say that the story of Gossip Girl was kind of 328 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: based on the school that she went to, which I 329 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: beloka was horst Man was the name of it. To 330 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: be quite honest with you, I feel like I've kind 331 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: of like mentally blocked out a lot of my time 332 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: with her. How do you go from being casual friends 333 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: to becoming roommates with Daniel Miller? How do you go 334 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: from being casual friends to becoming roommates with Daniel Miller? 335 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: So at the time, I was living in NoHo and 336 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: I was working in Hollywood. I didn't have a car, 337 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: and it was when you list in uber had just 338 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: started coming out, so I was using for public transportation 339 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: and Danielle had brought up the idea to me because 340 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: my lease was about to be over in a couple 341 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: of months with who I was currently living with, and 342 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: then she had brought up to me. She was like, oh, 343 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: my lease is coming up to like, let's move to Hollywood. 344 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: You'll be closer to work, You'll be able to walk 345 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: to work. It's of using public transportation, it'll be safer, 346 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: like getting all of these great ideas and it sounded 347 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: fun and different, and like I felt like it was 348 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: kind of gonna get me out of my comfort zone 349 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: because I was hanging out with the same people all 350 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: the time. That's but that's a bad thing. But just 351 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: like you know, there's so many people that live in 352 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: l A. Why not like make more friends or meet 353 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: more people your social circle network. Yeah, she convinced me 354 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: to do it, and she was like, you were going 355 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: to live in a nice apartment building right on Hollywood 356 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: and Highland, who were living at the Jefferson right across 357 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: from the w super expensive to oh it was. I 358 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if I can afford that, 359 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, and she was like, you can just 360 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: pay this much and I'll cover the rest. I think 361 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: I was paying her like a thousand dollars a month 362 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: because at the time I was serving in bar attending, 363 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: so I was just paying everything in cash to her. 364 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: So there's like no trail of me paying her rent, 365 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: you know whatever. So you'd give her your portion of 366 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: the rent every month in cash. Yeah, the rent for 367 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: that two bedroom luxury apartment in Hollywood is close to 368 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: three thousand dollars a month. Back, Taylor is under the 369 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: impression Danielle is a quote trust fund baby who's happy 370 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: to pay the lion's share of the rent. But when 371 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: they move in together, it's not long before Taylor notices 372 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: something really odd that kind of like felt like she 373 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: was never really moving in. There was always boxes everywhere, 374 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: she was never really unpacking any of her stuff, and 375 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: I would sometimes I'd be like, so, are we gonna 376 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: get a couch? Are we gonna get a TV? That 377 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: just kind of felt like her stuff was just literally everywhere, 378 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: and like I was fully moved in, but it never 379 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: fully turned into an apartment. At this point, Taylor has 380 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: no idea what she's witnessing is an elaborate con in progress, 381 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: and it would take her months before she finally figures 382 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: out what Danielle is actually up to. Eventually, though, the 383 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: clues start piling up. Literally, I was noticing we were 384 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: getting letters of not paying rent. I would confront her 385 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: about it, and I'd be like, hey, we just gotta 386 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: let her that we all like two months of rent, 387 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: Like what's going on because I've been paying you, You're 388 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: supposed to be paying this. And she was just like, oh, yeah, 389 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna takere of it. I'm so sorry, like I've 390 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: been super busy with work, blah blah blah, because she 391 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: was working at the time in the Beverly Hills Chamber 392 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: of Commerce. But as the months passed, the eviction notices 393 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: keep coming. Here in Los Angeles, it can take a 394 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: really long time for a landlord to actually evict a 395 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: tenant for not paying rent, sometimes an entire year. And 396 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: while all this is going on, Taylor is continuing to 397 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: give Danielle a thousand dollars in cash every month to 398 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: pay her part of the rent, and Danielle continues to 399 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: explain away all the eviction notices that keep appearing, telling 400 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: Taylor don't worry, She's handling it, and finally one day 401 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: she's not home. I come home and there's like the 402 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: big you know, eviction notice, be out in whatever it 403 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: is three days or we're taking your stuff and locking 404 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: the doors. And at this time, Danielle's like on her 405 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: birthday trip in like Thailand or Bali, I don't even know, 406 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: Divide somewhere overseas with her boyfriend. So I'm texting her, 407 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: messaging her on Facebook like hey, we're getting evicted, Like 408 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: what's going on? I've been paying you all of this rent? 409 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? And she just kind of 410 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: turns the story into like it's my birthday. Why are 411 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: you making me feel like such a bad friend on 412 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: my birthday? Like whatever, narcissistic if you will not narcissist. 413 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: I was thinking that that is tell. It's like they 414 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: turn it on you, like now you're attacking me. Meanwhile, 415 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: you're getting evicted because she didn't pay rent right like 416 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: we have. So I mean, do you get to notice 417 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: like that from the Sheriff's department. You probably haven't paid 418 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: rent in what like six months at least. So I'm 419 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: like in my head, I'm like, I just paid for 420 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: this girl's vacation for her birthday, probably like she's just 421 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: been taking all this for me? Did a sheriff ever 422 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: show up to kick you out? Like? How did that end? 423 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: How did you get out of there? So when that happened, 424 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: I came home, I saw that letter and like freaked out, 425 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: called some of my best girlfriends, and thankfully I had 426 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: a family that lived down the street in San Diego, 427 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: and I told them the story. They had met Danielle 428 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: a couple of times and they were like, yeah, you 429 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: can come and move in with us, like moved down 430 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: here and we'll help in any way that you can. 431 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: So in three days, I packed up all my stuff, 432 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: thankful for my girlfriends that helped me, and I got out. 433 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: I left the door unlocked with all of danielle stuff 434 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: in it, and she finally came back from her trip, 435 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: her birthday trip, and then accused me of stealing like 436 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: all of her expensive name brand clothes, shoes, all of it. 437 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: And she's like, I'm gonna sue you for stealing all 438 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: this from me. And I'm like, since I moved out, 439 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: I left my stuff. We were getting evicted. I left 440 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: the door unlocked if somebody wanted to walk in and 441 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: take your stuff and that's who did it. Like I'm 442 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: teaching your things. I want nothing to do with your stuff, 443 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: Like you've screwed me over so much, Like please don't 444 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: talk to me or threaten me anymore. I guarantee you 445 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: that whole trick to make you move in together, that 446 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: was just to shake you down for money every month. 447 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: She was never going to pay rent. Yeah, and I 448 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: get like I look back on it and I think, like, 449 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: why me, you know, And then I'm like, oh, because 450 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm the nice girl from the Midwest who loves everybody, 451 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: and it's so friendly to everybody, Like, yeah, you can 452 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: take advantage of me because I'm not going to stick 453 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: up for myself or put my foot down or whatever, 454 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: because I want to help everybody. And I think it 455 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: speaks to a level of inhumanity that someone like you, 456 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: who just moved to l A, who doesn't know anyone, 457 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: she's gonna scam you. You don't even have a lot 458 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: of money. But I'm telling you that apartment thing, that 459 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: was a scheme. And even you said it yourself, it 460 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: didn't look like she was moving in right, that was 461 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,239 Speaker 1: just set up to scam you. Until you told me 462 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: this scheme, I'd never heard of it. Trick so one 463 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: into getting an apartment, Tell them they don't have to 464 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: pay the whole half rent, just pay what they can, 465 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: and you can go by so many months before they 466 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: actually evict you because she got an eviction notice and 467 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: she goes on vacation, Like, in what world does that 468 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: make any sense? How crazy would it be if you 469 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: find out she's doing that to ten different young women 470 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: like yourself, Like she's got ten apartments, sharing with all 471 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: of them, and they're giving her a thousand dollars a 472 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: month and she's not really paying the rent and she's 473 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: just waiting to get evicted. Because when you call to 474 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: tell her, hey, we're getting evicted, did she seem concerned 475 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: at this time when the eviction notices start showing up. 476 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Miller is working at the Beverly Hills Chamber of 477 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: Commerce in their Events and Marketing department, and if you 478 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: recall what her former business partner, Mackenzie Day says in 479 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: episode three, basically anywhere she's worked, she's stolen people's information. Well, 480 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: right before Taylor moves all her stuff out of that 481 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: luxury Hollywood apartment they're both getting evicted from, she makes 482 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: up startling discovery that appears to confirm what Mackenzie says. 483 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: When I was packing up all of my stuff because 484 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: we were evicted, I did go through her room because 485 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, girls like share each other's clothes and shoes 486 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: and whatever. So I did go into her room, and 487 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: I did see I found a huge sheet of paper 488 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: of people that she worked with, with all of their 489 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: bank account information and all of the name and I 490 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: but like, I didn't know what to do with it. 491 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: Keep in mind at this point, Taylor is a small 492 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: town girl from Wisconsin getting evicted by the Los Angeles 493 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office, even though she's been paying rent in cash 494 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: to Danielle the entire time. She was in a state 495 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: of shock and in a hurry to pack up all 496 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: her stuff and leave. She didn't have the presence of 497 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: mind to report daniel Miller to police, and the thought 498 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: that her friend, her roommate, could be a sophisticated con 499 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: artist just never occurred to her. Whatever I was young, 500 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: I was dumb, naive, whatever it learned from mistakes. You 501 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: have to understand you did not make a mistake. You 502 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: were just being a kind person. And she's an evil 503 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: con artist who used you and scanned you. It wasn't 504 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: a mistake you made. I feel like I've kind of 505 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: just accepted it. I'm glad we're speaking, because I think 506 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: you need someone to look you in the eye and 507 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: tell you this was not your fault. You didn't do 508 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: anything wrong. You're not dumb or naive or young. She's 509 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: a con artist and you were in her path. That's it, 510 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: I guess. So yeah, Taylor's eyes well up as I'm 511 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: talking to her, because for the past eight years she's 512 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: blamed herself for what happened, and it really wasn't her 513 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: fault at all. She did nothing wrong. At some point, 514 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: you gotta blame the perpetrator. Mm hmm. And this rent 515 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: scam is not the only con Danielle pulls on Taylor. 516 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: Early on, Danielle figures out a clever way a trick 517 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Taylor into using a stolen credit card, and by now 518 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: we all know stolen credit cards are Danielle's jam. When 519 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: we first moved in, she was like, my mom is 520 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: so excited for us, like as a little like gift 521 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: to us for you know, getting this place and celebrating. 522 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: My mom is going to pay for our uber's And 523 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: she was like here, what's your Uber account, Let's put 524 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: this card number on it, or this is my mom's card, 525 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: let's put it on fust forward whatever. You know, the 526 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 1: card ends up being like declined. All these charges are 527 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: going on and to this day, I am banned from 528 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: Uber and I can no longer use it. So she 529 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: was using a stolen credit card on your Uber account 530 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: and then used you to book rides for her. Yeah, 531 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: because it's her mother's credit card, she says, yeah, how 532 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: much money was charged to Uber? Thousands of dollars and 533 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, of course theres like you can pay it, 534 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: and I'm just like I'm not paying now, like I 535 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: didn't take those rides, like they're not me. You're a 536 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: lucky police didn't show up at your door. I know, 537 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how I can tell you how. It's 538 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: because you live in l A at the time, and 539 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: they have so many credit card fraud cases. You just 540 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: fell through the cracks. But police could have shown up 541 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: at your door and said, we have evidence you're using 542 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: a stolen credit card. You're under arrest, right, And the 543 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: final con Daniel Miller pulls on Taylor causes her years 544 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: of anguish and buckets of tears, Danielle figures out a 545 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: duplicit this way to get Taylor to take the fall 546 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: for a scam she pulls and Taylor is suddenly named 547 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: as a co defendant in court proceedings. And I'll never 548 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: forget like I had. She did it in the middle 549 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: of the night. She came up and woke me up 550 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of my sleep before I had to 551 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: go to work, and she was like, here's here's the check, 552 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: like signing here. I got to take care of this 553 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: next time on Queen of the con So when I 554 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: first got over the papers, I reached out to her 555 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, Janielle, like I'm just getting this, 556 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: like what's going on, And you know, she turns it 557 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: into life. I'm sorry, like my dad will take care 558 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: of it. Danielle Miller is finally forced to face the music. 559 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: This person is more dangerous with a cell phone than 560 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: anybody I know with the fararm, and she's ready to sing. 561 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: I just have a couple of clarifications before I sue. 562 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: My statement is Portions of public statements made to the 563 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: media by Danielle Miller were dramatized verbatim in this episode. 564 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: As We're questions and comments from those interviewing. If you're 565 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: enjoying Queen of the Con, clicks, share and send it 566 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: to your friends and family. Also leave us a five 567 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: star review. 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