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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts.

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Speaker 2: Now, mister President, why are you doing up there?

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Speaker 1: Come out to talk to it.

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Speaker 3: You know, what do you feel?

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Speaker 4: They started cook.

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Speaker 5: The ranked hypocrisy and dishonesty of what he's saying. I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna hold this up.

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Speaker 1: But can you see this? You see this?

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Speaker 5: I want I want prisker did see and in did

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Speaker 5: y'all have him on to explain Illinois thirteen, this peaky

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Speaker 5: sized finger that goes across the entire state that was

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Speaker 5: one hundred percent drawn for partisan political purposes. But I

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Speaker 5: haven't seen anything at CNN or pretty much any of

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Speaker 5: the other major networks bringing him on, or the Democrats

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Speaker 5: and his legislator that that that drew a map with

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Speaker 5: districts that are far more jerrymandered than anything that the House,

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Speaker 5: that the Texas maps that we're contemplating look like here today.

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Speaker 5: So it's ranked hypocrisy. That's my problem, the dishonesty and

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Speaker 5: the faux outrage. They're not mad the states are redistruting

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Speaker 5: for partisan purposes. They're mad that a Republican state is doing.

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Speaker 6: Trump ignores well, his oath of office and theirs, and

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Speaker 6: when they're taking it upon themselves to thwart the will

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Speaker 6: of the American people. Will they say when Donald Trump calls,

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Speaker 6: they say, yes, sir, right away, sir, happy to lick

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Speaker 6: your boot, sir. When Donald Trump says jump, Greg Abbott

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Speaker 6: and Ken Paxon say how high.

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Speaker 1: They don't care.

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Speaker 6: That they're violating the Voting Rights Act and racially jerrymandering

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Speaker 6: their state. Well, they're hoping they could rob the bank

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Speaker 6: and get away before anyone notices. Texas Republicans are trying

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Speaker 6: to diminish the voting power of their own constituents, and

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Speaker 6: in doing so, diminish the right of Illinoisans and all

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Speaker 6: Americans because they don't want to live in a country

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Speaker 6: where the president riggs elections for his side.

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Speaker 7: This is not a Texas problem.

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Speaker 8: This is the focus of this issue is Texas. But

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Speaker 8: this is a national problem, and you got to understand it.

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Speaker 8: If somehow, some way Republicans are able to hold.

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Speaker 4: Onto the House next year, and.

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Speaker 8: In spite of the fact that I think they shouldn't

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Speaker 8: lose because.

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Speaker 9: Of you know, the big budget build that took health

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Speaker 9: care away from millions of people, that gay tax breaks

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Speaker 9: to billionaires who didn't need it, if they were somehow

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Speaker 9: able to hold onto the House in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 9: That is the House of Representatives.

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Speaker 8: That would have to certify who won the presidential election

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Speaker 8: come twenty twenty eight, twenty nine. Now, if you want

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Speaker 8: to play with fire, and that's what we're doing here,

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Speaker 8: you put in a bunch of hardistan acts who are

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Speaker 8: not supposed to be in the House, who are there

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Speaker 8: because of gerrymandering and a whole range of other things

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Speaker 8: that Republicans are doing, and then play at risk the

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Speaker 8: possibility that that body would not certify who the next

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Speaker 8: president was.

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Speaker 10: When someone stands up and says, I will lead this

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Speaker 10: city by making it more affordable, and here are my plans,

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Speaker 10: real plans, Plans to deliver on childcare, plans to deliver unhousing, plans.

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Speaker 4: To deliver good experiment.

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Speaker 10: We're going to try things on groceries. That is the

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Speaker 10: Democratic message.

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Speaker 2: So over the last four months, one point eight million

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Speaker 2: native born Americans got a job and one point five

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Speaker 2: million foreign born workers lost a job, and we know

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Speaker 2: that a million of those are somewhere around them at

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Speaker 2: least were illegal migrants who exited the workforce and self deported.

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Speaker 2: This is a huge, huge win for the president. This

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Speaker 2: is exactly what an America First economy should look like.

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Speaker 2: It turns out the whole idea that there are jobs

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Speaker 2: Americans won't do is a myth. There are jobs Americans

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Speaker 2: won't do for that money and having this illegal cast

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Speaker 2: under writing our entire economy. Getting rid of that that

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Speaker 2: should be a progressive cont and move over.

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Speaker 11: AI is another kind of job.

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Speaker 3: If you will.

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Speaker 11: It's a blue collar comeback because chat GPT can't do

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Speaker 11: jobs like fixing your plumbing or wiring your home. Ken

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Speaker 11: Rosk is a former construction worker and the author.

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Speaker 3: Of blue Collar Cash.

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Speaker 11: By the Way, Carly confirms that chat GPT cannot plumb

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Speaker 11: your home is just confirmed. According to Axios and Microsoft,

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Speaker 11: the most vulnerable jobs are interpreters and translators, historians, passenger

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Speaker 11: attendance sales reps, and writers and authors. The least vulnerable

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Speaker 11: can dredge operators, bridge and lock tenders, water treatment plan

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Speaker 11: system operators, foundry mold and core makers, and rail track

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Speaker 11: laying and maintenance equipment operators. It's a lot of words

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Speaker 11: to say blue collar is back.

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Speaker 12: Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 12: coming from every angle, but the will to deceive, fear

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Speaker 12: not you found the place for truth, the voice of

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Speaker 12: a generation that still has the will to believe in

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Speaker 12: the greatest country in the history of the world. This

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Speaker 12: is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot. Here we

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Speaker 12: go on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, Radio stations across the country honored to be

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be back in the studio tomorrow in the

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Speaker 1: Home Studio, Phoenix. I'm excited to be coming back home.

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Speaker 1: Breaking news, Pam Bondi has ordered a federal prosecutor not

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Speaker 1: named currently to present evidence before a Florida grand jury

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Speaker 1: to present at the case regarding Russia Gate. This is

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Speaker 1: major news. Everybody's take a step back. Many people in

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Speaker 1: the audience are very skeptical that we will ever see accountability,

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Speaker 1: but this is a very positive development. Time and time again,

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Speaker 1: we've been promised accountability goes all the way back. Remember

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Speaker 1: Ben Gazi. We spent over a year and a half

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Speaker 1: to two years on ben Ghazi Fugazi Fugazi, benng Ghazi Ligazi.

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Speaker 1: What reminds me of the Wolf of Wall Street who

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Speaker 1: Gazy Fugazi. We were promised justice for that. We were

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Speaker 1: promised justice for the Hillary Clinton emails. We were promised

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Speaker 1: justice for the people that lied about the Hunter Biden laptop.

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Speaker 1: Were promised justice for the crimes that happened during COVID

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Speaker 1: and the lockdowns, the vaccine mandates and the mask mandates,

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Speaker 1: and the corruption of our sciences. So just color me

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Speaker 1: a little bit cautious here that I think immediately that

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Speaker 1: we are going to get purp walks and indictments. But

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Speaker 1: that is what we need. Fifty one intelligence officials under

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden lied about the hundred button laptop. Now Pambody

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Speaker 1: ordering this federal prosecutor is a good step. Overall, we

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Speaker 1: want to see less chatter, less memes, less talk on

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Speaker 1: social media or TV. We want to see more action.

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Speaker 1: If crimes did happen, investigate it, get the evidence, and

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Speaker 1: be serious about it. But hopefully the Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: also understands all the risks here. Prosecuting a former president

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Speaker 1: of Barack Obama didn't work great for the Democrats in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, so would prosecuting Obama be any better?

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Speaker 1: He did win two elections. The Florida Venue is a

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Speaker 1: very ambitious scheme. They apparently want to prosecute Brennan or

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Speaker 1: Obama because the Biden Department of Justice raided mar A

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Speaker 1: Lago six years ago after they left office. That could

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Speaker 1: be seen as catering more to a very specific grievance

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Speaker 1: of the base rather than narrowly looking at the crimes

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Speaker 1: that they can prove. I would introduce some caution here

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Speaker 1: about trying to indict Obama. Not of course, I think

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Speaker 1: he probably deserves it, but remember Obama still remains very

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Speaker 1: popular amongst the American people. You could potentially create a

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Speaker 1: political martyr. Brennan. On the other hand, however, I think

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Speaker 1: indicting Brennan and Camey, who are the operators here, we

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Speaker 1: want this case to be ironclad. If you indict them

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Speaker 1: and this fails, it's worse than never even trying. So

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Speaker 1: this needs to be a open and shutcase. No reaches,

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Speaker 1: no creativity because, for example, if you indict Barack Obama,

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Speaker 1: which I admit Healy he probably deserves it, He'll have

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Speaker 1: the most unbelievable attorneys. It will be the number one

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Speaker 1: news story of the Trump government going after Obama. Remember,

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Speaker 1: Obama has presidential immunity to now John Brennan does not

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Speaker 1: Brennan does not have presidential immunity. James Comy does not

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Speaker 1: have presidential immunity. So if we are serious about this,

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Speaker 1: and I think we need to be, this in paneling

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Speaker 1: of the grand jury is major news. It's significant, but

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Speaker 1: understand we have to measure twice and cut ones and

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Speaker 1: from all sources and from everyone we've talked to. Brennan

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Speaker 1: seems to be the chief villain of the story. And

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Speaker 1: Brennan is not a sympathetic figure. You look at the guy.

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Speaker 1: He's got a nasty scowl face. He's constantly lying. He

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Speaker 1: was a former communist. He's a bad person. Obama. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if we want to take the Obama bait,

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Speaker 1: even though he might deserve it, even if the evidence

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Speaker 1: is pretty good in Obama's direction, he is presidential immunity.

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Speaker 1: You could create a massive Democrat political martyr. But I'm

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Speaker 1: open to hearing both sides of the debate on this.

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Speaker 1: But it seems as if Brennan was the hub of

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Speaker 1: the conspiracy. He was the epicenter. Can we get that

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Speaker 1: piece of tape, Guys where Brennan, Comy, and Hillary were

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Speaker 1: all parroting the same lie. He was the fulcrum point

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Speaker 1: of all things Russia Gate. Now, what exactly were the

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Speaker 1: crimes that were committed, Well, we don't know the specifics,

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Speaker 1: but it was likely a grand and seditious conspiracy against

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Speaker 1: the American people to thwart the sovereign of an election.

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Speaker 1: This is President Donald Trump. He called into squawk Box

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Speaker 1: on this very topic. Play cut three point fifty one.

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Speaker 13: The Justice Apartment now tapping a grand jury to look

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Speaker 13: into the intelligence community's assessment of what was happening with

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Speaker 13: Russia is that. You have nothing to do with directing

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Speaker 7: Nothing to do PAM is doing a great job. I

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Speaker 7: have nothing to do with it. I will tell you this.

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Speaker 7: They deserve it. I was happy to hear it. I

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Speaker 7: actually read it just like you did. I have nothing

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Speaker 7: to do with it. But what they did in the election,

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Speaker 1: Now, mind you, even if President Trump did order his

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Speaker 1: attorney general to do this, that's perfectly constitutional. It's perfectly legal.

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Speaker 1: The attorney general acts at the behest of the President

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Speaker 1: of United States. But I understand that you want to

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Speaker 1: to see this as a politically motivated thing. So I

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Speaker 1: get that, But just so we are clear, and I

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Speaker 1: get this question a lot on college campuses. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: Trump orders the attorney general. He's allowed to. The attorney

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Speaker 1: general works for the President of United States. But from

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Speaker 1: all sources, Brennan seems to be the culprit. He is

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Speaker 1: show overriding the CIA's warnings to publish smears against President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Brennan overrode all of the CIA objections, all of them

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Speaker 1: to the Steele dossier being included in the new D

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Speaker 1: and I assessment. John Brennan was the offensive coordinator of

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Speaker 1: Russia Gate. He was calling the plays up from the

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Speaker 1: press box. He was the one that was choreographing and

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Speaker 1: orchestrating all the movements. He was the one calling pass run,

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Speaker 1: slant out. He was in charge of all of the movements.

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Speaker 1: This is amontage of James Comy, Brennan, and Hillary. We

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Speaker 1: went through this tape last week. It's very important working

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Speaker 1: up sequentially. But if I were to give my advice,

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Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth, I would go all in on

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Speaker 1: John Brennan. Unless you have Obama so Stone called dead

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Speaker 1: to rights, it could potentially be a narrative distraction beyond

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Speaker 1: anything that we want. My opinion Brennan is based on

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Speaker 1: everything we know publicly available, and there will be information

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Speaker 1: present of the grand Jury that we do not have

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Speaker 8: The Russians interfered in our election during twenty sixteen cycle.

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Speaker 8: It is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community.

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Speaker 17: House Oversight Committee Chairman. James Comer is out with subpoenas

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Speaker 1: to you about mom Donnie. Let's just address one of

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Speaker 1: his one of his ideas. Why would freezing the rent

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Speaker 1: and having government run grocery stores in New York City

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Speaker 1: be a bad economic idea?

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Speaker 4: Doctor Steele, Well, thank you very much for the kind

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Speaker 4: words about Hillsdale. We are striving to be the best

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Speaker 4: We may be there now, so this is an excellent question.

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Speaker 4: I think people really need to understand what socialism is

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Speaker 4: and how it works. Really it doesn't work. And understand

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Speaker 4: the importance of capitalism and the free enterprise system. So

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Speaker 4: you're asking about rent control. Rent control prevents owners of

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Speaker 4: properties from being able to maintain them. It limits the

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Speaker 4: amount of property that will be made available. It stops building,

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Speaker 4: and it creates shortages. That's also true of any kind

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Speaker 4: of price controls that hold prices down, attempt to hold

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Speaker 4: prices down, They don't actually do that. They simply create

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Speaker 4: shortages and then the property will be allocated in some

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Speaker 4: other way. Grocery stores, government grocery stores. I lived in

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Speaker 4: the former Soviet Union. I also lived in communist China

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Speaker 4: for a short time. Again in other places where they

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Speaker 4: have government controls on these sorts of things. And if

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Speaker 4: you like shortages and standing in lines and not enough

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Speaker 4: to eat, then government grocery stores are the way to go.

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Speaker 4: That's the quick answer.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so, doctor Steele, let's let's zero in on

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Speaker 1: the rent control. It's actually so, there are tens of

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Speaker 1: thousands of vacant apartments in New York City right now

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Speaker 1: where he is running law, and they do not get

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Speaker 1: improved upon, and they do not have significant upgrades because

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Speaker 1: of rent control. The cities with the most rent control

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Speaker 1: in the United States, without exception, have the highest average

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Speaker 1: housing prices New York City, San Francisco, DC. And they've

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Speaker 1: had the controls for a long period of time, and

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Speaker 1: so speak more about this. The direct connection between rent

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Speaker 1: controls and freezing the rent and housing prices increasing. It

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Speaker 1: actually hurts the very problem that they are seeking to solve.

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Speaker 4: Sure, why would anyone want to invest money? Why would

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Speaker 4: you want to build apartments if you're not going to

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Speaker 4: be able to charge an amount that allows you to

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Speaker 4: recover your costs. And so there's the first problem. There's

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Speaker 4: no point in investing in something where there's no possible

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Speaker 4: return on it. And I mean it's going to be

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Speaker 4: important that we that we talked a little bit about

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Speaker 4: capitalism and about profit and why that's important, why it's

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Speaker 4: a valuable thing. But just as a just just as

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Speaker 4: a starting point, if you can't recover your cost you're

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Speaker 4: not going to invest something. People will not invest in

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Speaker 4: building new housing if there's if they're simply going to

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Speaker 4: take a loss on it. And that's what the rent

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Speaker 4: controls do. Interesting that after the Vietnam War, after the

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Speaker 4: United States had left Vietnam and North Vietnam conquered South Vietnam.

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Speaker 4: One of the Vietnamese North Vietnamese finance ministers said, we

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Speaker 4: managed to do to housing in Hanoi what the Americans

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Speaker 4: could not do by bombing. We destroyed it, and we

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Speaker 4: destroyed it with rent controls. That's what rent controls do.

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Speaker 1: So I know that you are pressure of economics, but

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Speaker 1: it's an irresistible call, the temptest temptation of rent control.

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Speaker 1: Why is it the we're not able to shut ourselves

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Speaker 1: of the political attraction to the allure of rent control,

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Speaker 1: despite its tragic and catastrophic failure.

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Speaker 4: So, mister Mandani just recently met with Elizabeth Warren and

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Speaker 4: Warren has endorsed him, Senator Warren, and she put it

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Speaker 4: this way, she said that we need affordability. And what's

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Speaker 4: attractive is they say we'll hold prices down. If we

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Speaker 4: hold prices down, it's more affordable, right. Well, actually not

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Speaker 4: so what you actually do is constrained supply. With less supply,

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Speaker 4: it's less available whatever is whatever we're good commodity we're

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Speaker 4: talking about. In this case, housing will be in less

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Speaker 4: supply and therefore be allocated to a number of across

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Speaker 4: people across the across the people attempting to get it

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Speaker 4: via some other method, whether it is waiting in line, bribery,

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Speaker 4: special favors, something like this. But there will also be

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Speaker 4: shortages inevitably with a system like that. It's attractive because

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Speaker 4: we say, because the politician will say, we're going to

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Speaker 4: give you something for free. If we're going to give

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Speaker 4: you something that's cheap, it'll be you know, we're affordable.

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Speaker 4: It won't be available, but boy, the price will be low.

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Speaker 4: And that's that low prices, but no one.

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Speaker 1: Will but it will be a very low price. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that there will be no there will be no abundance,

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Speaker 1: but it will it won't cost very much. And and

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Speaker 1: so the political realities, it's so hard and frustrating because

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Speaker 1: our job as conservatives or free market people, we have

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Speaker 1: to defend a system that it's not about free it's

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Speaker 1: about earned success. It's about meritocratic ascension. It is about investment,

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Speaker 1: it is about delayed gratification. But the truth is that

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Speaker 1: people's frustrations are real, and so, doctor Steele, there are

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Speaker 1: real economic problems in New York, there are real economic

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Speaker 1: problems in Boston. What would a free market capitalist market

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Speaker 1: based solution look like not the mom dotty garbage. What

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Speaker 1: would you say are two or three things that these

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Speaker 1: cities can do to fix housing, cost of living, transportation?

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Speaker 1: Our population is getting crushed by the affordability crisis, doctor Steele,

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Speaker 1: What would be one or two prove in free market

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Speaker 1: ways that we can address these problems?

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Speaker 4: In protection for housing, we have various kinds of controls

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Speaker 4: that zoning laws and things like this that actually people

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Speaker 4: from building, all sorts of restricting building codes, permitting processes,

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Speaker 4: and things like this. In California, for example, it is

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Speaker 4: nearly impossible to build any kind of reasonable housing because

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Speaker 4: of the regular tory systems new York City. New York City,

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Speaker 4: of course, is a bit of a different situation because

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Speaker 4: New York is a constrained area. If you think about Manhattan,

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Speaker 4: it is largely built up, but it is very difficult

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Speaker 4: to upgrade, to build anything new, and to to develop,

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Speaker 4: to further develop property that one owns. This is why

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Speaker 4: you have parts of New York City which are basically

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Speaker 4: just slums and have been left abandoned because it won't

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Speaker 4: nobody can afford to put anything into them to build them.

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Speaker 4: So one of the first things that we do is

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Speaker 4: get rid of the housing regulations and the building regulations,

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Speaker 4: and the various kinds of environmental rules also which don't

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Speaker 4: actually help the environment but do block any kind of development.

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Speaker 4: That would be the first thing you could do, and

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Speaker 4: it would make a great deal of difference. Another thing

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Speaker 4: would to just decontrol prices. That's a big deal. And

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Speaker 4: certainly in New York City we have rent they have

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Speaker 4: rent controls. It's interesting, good, a nice example of this.

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Speaker 4: But I was I did my PhD at New York University,

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Speaker 4: so I lived in New York City for four years,

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Speaker 4: and some of my friends who went on finished their

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Speaker 4: doctoral degrees and went on to the World Bank and

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Speaker 4: the I m F. They have rent controlled apartments. I

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Speaker 4: believe they still have them. Once you have a rent

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Speaker 4: controlled apartment, it is it's a it's a it's a

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Speaker 4: thing to happen. So these are wealthy people, friends, friends

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Speaker 4: of mine, nice people. But what you don't want to

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Speaker 4: get rid of your you don't want to get rid

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Speaker 4: of it of those things in LA.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, well connected. Once you have them, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a luxury item that you do not want to

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Speaker 1: get rid of. And in l A, you get a

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Speaker 1: control apartments. Some of these people are making two three four,

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Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars a year in a rent control

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Speaker 1: department and they just you know, they say, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're not giving that up. Let's play a piece of

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Speaker 1: tape here. Let's go I want you to respond to

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Speaker 1: the democratic message of government run grocery stores three nineteen.

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Speaker 10: When someone stands up and says, I will lead this

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Speaker 10: city by making it more affordable.

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Speaker 4: And here are my.

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Speaker 10: Plans, real plans, plans to deliver on childcare, plans to

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Speaker 10: deliver unhousing, plans to deliver.

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Speaker 4: Go to experiment.

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Speaker 10: We're going to try things on groceries. That is the

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Speaker 10: democratic message.

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Speaker 1: That is the democratic message. And this sounds like Marxist

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Speaker 1: ideology and the grocery store thing. So let's say that

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Speaker 1: there are city run groceries. What would the result of

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Speaker 1: that be. I know you touched on it earlier, but

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Speaker 1: let's go deeper.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting that Elizabeth Warren says we're going to

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Speaker 4: they want to run experiments. These experiments have been run

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Speaker 4: in the Soviet Union and other communist countries, and they're

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Speaker 4: not going to do a get a different result here.

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Speaker 4: When they try this. What are the results of the

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Speaker 4: government running grocery store? First of all, low quality or

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Speaker 4: service and shortages, And that's that's you get that because,

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Speaker 4: first of all, and this is a really important point

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Speaker 4: under capitalism, it's important to make a profit. That's what

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Speaker 4: keeps you in business. If you don't make a profit,

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Speaker 4: then you're taking losses and your operations are shut down.

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Speaker 4: But what's a profit? What does that mean? What it

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Speaker 4: means is you are creating, you're taking resources, inputs, and

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Speaker 4: you're creating something that was more valuable to consumers than

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Speaker 4: you started with. And the difference is profit. And that's

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Speaker 4: a good thing. That's a sign that you have created value. Yes,

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Speaker 4: you have an incentive to hold cost down out and

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Speaker 1: Right there, we'll pick that up. Just hold that thought

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Speaker 12: And what do you think make someone conservative or liberal

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Speaker 1: That is Patriot Mobile dot com slash Charlie. Doctor Steele

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Speaker 1: continues with us from America's greatest college, the greatest college

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Speaker 1: in the world, Hillsdale College. Doctor Steele, I cut you off.

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Speaker 1: Please continue on government run grocery stores. You were mentioning Venezuela, Sir,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Steele, from Hillsdale College.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Venezuela. Hugo Shavez, the communist who became dictator of Venezuela,

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Speaker 4: imposed price controls on groceries and all everything in supermarkets.

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Speaker 4: Shortage is necessarily developed then, because if you can't cover

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Speaker 4: the cost of the goods, they're not going to be

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Speaker 4: on the shelves. He then used that when the shortages

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Speaker 4: emerged as an excuse to nationalize the grocery stores, take

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Speaker 4: that he had just simply to nationalize the simply by

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Speaker 4: saying that the supermarkets, the grocery stores were not doing

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Speaker 4: Then he confiscated the property, became as some might say,

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Speaker 4: appropriating the means of production, which is something of course

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Speaker 4: that Zohan Mamdani has called for. And then you have

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Speaker 4: a socialist system and you have quantique shortages. The consequences

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Speaker 4: for Venezuela were studded growth, malnutrition in children that cannot

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Speaker 4: That's what socialism does, and that's the result that you

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Speaker 4: get in anytime you use that kind of a system.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully it wouldn't be so bad if they pulled something

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Speaker 4: like this in New York City because we still have

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Speaker 4: a free enterprise system elsewhere. But it's a dangerous thing.

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Speaker 4: People need to understand how destructive socialism is. That it

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Speaker 4: really is destructive.

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Speaker 1: So, Professor, you are a phenomenal teacher. Doctor Arn't has

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Speaker 1: entrusted you with a course Hillsdale College two minutes remaining.

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Speaker 1: What would you say is the greatest economic myth or

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Speaker 1: stumbling block that you have to deprogram or confront of

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Speaker 1: students that you come at Hillsdale College, something that they

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Speaker 1: believe that it's not true, that you have to correct.

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Speaker 1: Early on, Doctor Steel will tell.

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Speaker 4: You, yes, two things. Number One, people have a tendency

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Speaker 4: to think in terms of class warfare. Even Conservatives and

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Speaker 4: Christians will sometimes think this that necessarily there's conflict between

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Speaker 4: capital and labor. Capital and labor are actually inputs and

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Speaker 4: mutually beneficial exchange. And getting the idea of class conflict

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Speaker 4: out of people's heads can be very difficult, maybe even

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Speaker 4: a bigger point, although with Hillsdale students they catch on quickly.

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Speaker 4: Profit profit is a great thing. Profit is an incentive

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Speaker 4: to do it at a cost that at cost effectively,

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Speaker 4: so you avoid waste. A system like the Soviet system

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Speaker 4: is incredibly wasteful and generated goods and services that people

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Speaker 4: didn't want. If you want to have a society, that

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Speaker 4: if we want a free and peaceful society, we need capitalism.

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Speaker 4: Socialism promises those things that it actually brings authoritarianism, tyranny.

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Speaker 4: It divides people into the leaders and the serfs who

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Speaker 4: So people need to understand the importance of capitalism and

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Speaker 1: Doctor Steele, You're welcome back anytime. We need to talk

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Speaker 1: more about capitalism. We need to talk more about markets,

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Speaker 1: We need to talk more about what makes a what

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Speaker 1: makes the economy tick and its private property. It is profits,

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Speaker 1: it is production. Doctor Steele from the greatest college in

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Speaker 1: the world, Hillsdale College. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I appreciate.

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Speaker 1: Terrific conversation. We've got to have him back on so important.

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Speaker 14: They're very Texans don't run from a fight, and there's

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Speaker 14: a fight going on in the legislature right now about

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Speaker 14: redistring as well as other things. But I'll make two

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Speaker 14: quick points stand about this. For one, to run to

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Speaker 14: states like New York and Illinois to protest redistrict and

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Speaker 14: is kind of like running to Wisconsin to protest cheese.

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Speaker 14: It's just kind of outrageous, is what these Democrats have done.

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Speaker 1: Just a small fraction of them.

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Speaker 14: Were needed to break a quorum, and that small fraction

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Speaker 14: is holding hostage legislation in the state of Texas, where

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Speaker 14: we will be able to provide assistance and reform for

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Speaker 14: all of the victims of that horrific flooding that we've

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Speaker 14: had in the state of Texas. Our fellow Texans are

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Speaker 14: being let down and not getting the flood relief they

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Speaker 14: need because these Democrats have absconded from the responsibility, and

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Speaker 14: I believe they have forfeited their seats in the state

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Speaker 14: legislature because they're not doing the job they were elected

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Speaker 14: to do.

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Speaker 17: The arrest warrants for the missing Democrat lawmakers only apply

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Speaker 17: within the state of Texas. Plus, breaking quorum isn't a crime,

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Speaker 17: so Texas authorities can't pursue extradition. Well, that's going to

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Speaker 17: do it for your headlines, is all. We appreciate having

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Speaker 17: you long for the ride. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everyone for hour today we're getting to the end

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Speaker 1: of our exclusive SATs interview round up. I have another

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Speaker 1: very insightful one today with my friend Russell Brand. We

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Speaker 1: talk about religion, COVID, the United Kingdom, and more and

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Speaker 1: for all of this interview completely add free become a

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Speaker 1: member at members dot Charliekirk dot com. Okay, everyone, let's

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Speaker 1: get right to it. Joining us is a new friend

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Speaker 1: and honestly a great person and amazing Christian, a new Christian.

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Speaker 1: You probably know him from a lot of different stuff.

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Speaker 1: Give it up for Russell Brand.

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Speaker 18: Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Huh, Russell, great to see you.

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Speaker 19: I'm so grateful to be here. All right, wait, this

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Speaker 19: is important. It's the Guantanamo Gator.

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Speaker 3: Charlie.

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Speaker 19: I want to follow up on some of the Guantanamo

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Speaker 19: gators questions.

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Speaker 3: Why do we have no keep talking?

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Speaker 19: This is good? And why don't you debate? He's perfectly reasonable?

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Speaker 19: Debate him now?

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Speaker 1: Why do you keep a.

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Speaker 3: Because that's quite good? Do you see he? Now? Charlie?

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Speaker 19: Now can I talk to you about some of your

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Speaker 19: booking ideas? And I will say no one told me

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Speaker 19: about the Guantanamo Gaekta.

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Speaker 3: I was not warned.

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Speaker 19: And you know, sometimes we see those videos of Floridians

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Speaker 19: getting them into a trash can with wheels. I should

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Speaker 19: like to see that take place with that gentleman.

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Speaker 1: He was so honestly like, he's just so reasonable. You

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Speaker 1: should have kept the conversation going. Russell, great to see you,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 3: It's so lovely to see you.

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Speaker 1: So I've so much to talk about here? Are you

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Speaker 1: clearing around a Bible.

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Speaker 19: That's my Bible in one year from our daily readings,

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Speaker 19: and I thought it was very apisite that today we've

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Speaker 19: transitioned out of Acts and into Romans.

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Speaker 3: One because on our previous.

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Speaker 19: Conversation, which was in Milwauketet the RNC, you said to

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Speaker 19: me that Romans is the Christian constitution.

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Speaker 3: This is from my friend Jay John.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 19: It's old and new Testament. It's very easy to carry

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Speaker 19: around and read. These are just some of my notes

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Speaker 19: in preparation for the interview. Note one ensure Guantanamo gator

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Speaker 19: present in front road.

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Speaker 3: This will distract Charlie.

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Speaker 19: No, there's just like lots of actually notes about Rome

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Speaker 19: itself and Caravagia and stuff like that. So yeah, I

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Speaker 19: carry two Bibles, which I recognize it's quite cumbersome, but

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Speaker 19: I've not been Christian very long, so what do you expect?

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Speaker 1: And so, Russell, you have a phenomenal story. And thank

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Speaker 1: you for taking time to travel to this conference. It's terrific.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for paying me to come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, well, thank you for gladly accepting. So

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Speaker 1: you were in public eye you still are in a

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Speaker 1: non Christian lifestyle? Is that fair to say?

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Speaker 3: Almost anti Christian in some ways.

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Speaker 1: Walk us through the journey as you're comfortable sharing from

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Speaker 1: that lifestyle to now giving your life to Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 19: Well, you know, in a sense, we have no choice

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Speaker 19: but to worship something. And my devoutness and devotion was

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Speaker 19: effortlessly directed by the culture and by my conditions I

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Speaker 19: mean familial and psychological as well as social towards worship

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Speaker 19: and reverence of the individual, which I see as being

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Speaker 19: the nexus of false idolatry.

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Speaker 3: Really, as long as you're trapped in.

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Speaker 19: Self worshiping yourself, aspects of yourself, self aggrandizement, pursuit of

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Speaker 19: personal glory, you're very easily contained by the culture. In

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Speaker 19: a sense, I've started to recognize that the culture once

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Speaker 19: is in a state of self centered bewilderment. When you're

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Speaker 19: in that state, you're very easy to manage and manipulate.

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Speaker 19: I really thought that I was autonomous and had a

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Speaker 19: great deal of personal authority. In fact, I would have

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Speaker 19: believed in the kind of rags to riches idea that

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Speaker 19: I bought come from a pretty modest background, and through

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Speaker 19: success and endeavor and hard work, and through personal excellence

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Speaker 19: and nobility and charm.

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Speaker 3: Moxie call it what you will.

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Speaker 19: I fought against the odds to become a Hollywood star

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Speaker 19: and marry the Katie Perry and be on red carpets

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Speaker 19: all over the place for a brief while I lived

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Speaker 19: with the Guantanamo Gator.

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Speaker 3: It was a complicated era.

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Speaker 19: That's how I would have characterized it, Charlie, as I

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Speaker 19: loved that one, yeah, and I kept it quite. I

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Speaker 19: would have characterized it as a sort of a story

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Speaker 19: of personal success, and I didn't.

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Speaker 3: This is how I came to realize this.

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Speaker 19: I was looking at the work of u Val Knowl Harari,

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Speaker 19: the writer of Sapiens, which I found perfectly enjoyable, till

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Speaker 19: it became clear to me it was an atheistic trope

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Speaker 19: that was geared towards directing people towards surrender and subjugation,

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Speaker 19: towards AI force idol.

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Speaker 3: What it was, wasn't it? And I thought, Oh, the

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Speaker 3: reason this guy is such.

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Speaker 19: Popular and accredited intellectual is because his message and agenda

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Speaker 19: fits very neatly into the agenda of powerful elites who

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Speaker 19: determine which cultural artifacts get celebrated and popularized.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that at first.

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Speaker 19: And then ifore, I wonder if you were that I

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Speaker 19: wonder if there was something about your success, Russell, that

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Speaker 19: was telling the culture a story that he wanted to hear.

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Speaker 19: And then I thought about it for a while, because

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Speaker 19: it is, after all my favorite subjects me. And while

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Speaker 19: I was thinking about that, thought, oh, yeah, it was

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Speaker 19: my personal hedonism and my sense of myself as self

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Speaker 19: actualizing through excess.

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Speaker 3: That's a story the culture likes to tell itself.

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Speaker 19: So really, you were just the useful sort of vessel

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Speaker 19: or expression of a particular set of cultural ideas. I

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Speaker 19: came to Christ the way that some people do who

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Speaker 19: don't have the benefit of Christianity in early life, although

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Speaker 19: it happened obviously at the perfect time, through a variety

1001
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Speaker 19: of collapses in my private and public life, sort of

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Speaker 19: a personal difficulty with the birth of my son, who's

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Speaker 19: sort of beautiful and incredible and in doing very well,

1004
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Speaker 19: but certainly was a crisis in our family for a minute,

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Speaker 19: and through false allegations of sexual misconduct, which gave me

1006
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Speaker 19: great pause for reflection on the way that I'd lived

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Speaker 19: for a lot of time and the impact of that lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: And I suppose in the midst of all.

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Speaker 19: That confusion, the clarity of Christ came in a way

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Speaker 19: that's still difficult to describe. But most recently I felt

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Speaker 19: Charlie when reading I was looking at Acts and it

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Speaker 19: talked about the meeting of Paul and Peter. So I

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Speaker 19: went to check it in Galatians the same and I thought,

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Speaker 19: in that encounter between Paul and Peter, you've got someone

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Speaker 19: who knew Christ while alive and met the resurrected Christ,

1016
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Speaker 19: as well as Paul, who has this profound.

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Speaker 3: Incredible vision re encounter with him.

1018
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Speaker 19: Thought and I had that kind of visceral wave of

1019
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Speaker 19: the reality and truth of the historical Christ, not just

1020
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Speaker 19: the mythic Christ that we need to use as a

1021
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Speaker 19: sort of an inn a constellation for personal guidance.

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Speaker 3: But oh my god, it actually happened. It actually happened.

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Speaker 19: And when I feel that, it brings me out of

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Speaker 19: the hum drum, it brings me out of the central

1025
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Speaker 19: and it puts me in the supernatural, where I believe

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Speaker 19: we must to some degree live in the world, not

1027
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Speaker 19: of yes.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm sure you tried Buddhism or do you

1029
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Speaker 1: experiment with Easter and stuff? What made Christianity different?

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Speaker 19: The reason I was repulsed by Christianity initially was because

1031
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Speaker 19: I felt like, this is the religion of like, you know,

1032
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Speaker 19: like any ordinary American or my grandmother or my wife

1033
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Speaker 19: is accessible to everyone. I must have something a little

1034
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Speaker 19: more esoteric, a little rarer, a little more hardware or gnostic,

1035
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Speaker 19: a little more gnostic and a little less conformist. I

1036
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Speaker 19: felt that, you know, Christianity, and maybe the institute. There's

1037
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Speaker 19: an argument that could be had about whether institutional Christianity

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Speaker 19: is used as a kind of panacea to prevent people

1039
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Speaker 19: being the radical revolutionaries that I believe our Lord would

1040
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Speaker 19: have us be. And I when I like with things

1041
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Speaker 19: like Buddhism and Sufism, not then claiming to have had

1042
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Speaker 19: a deep understanding of these faiths, just an autodidactic perusal

1043
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Speaker 19: of the books of Sufiism and Hinduism and Buddhism and philosophy,

1044
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Speaker 19: although there were many, many truths that were discovered in

1045
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Speaker 19: them texts at the center of those truths, Charlie.

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Speaker 3: There I was still trapped in self.

1047
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Speaker 19: When I surrendered kind of voluntarily yet exhausted to the

1048
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Speaker 19: man Christ, the flesh Christ, I realized, Ah, I.

1049
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Speaker 3: Wanted to be Jesus.

1050
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Speaker 19: I wanted to be the center, the son of God

1051
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Speaker 19: the Apex that yet I can't do miracles.

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Speaker 3: I'm not willing to be crucified now.

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Speaker 19: Since surrendering to Him, accepting Him, bowing at the foot

1054
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Speaker 19: of his cross on my knees, shoulder shoulder with any

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Speaker 19: one of you that accepts Jesus alongside me, I feel relieved.

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Speaker 3: I feel unburdened, I feel empowered.

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Speaker 19: And I realized that the person that I used to

1058
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Speaker 19: be was not an error or a mistake, but part

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Speaker 19: of the unfolding way, as the early Christians called it.

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Speaker 19: And I find it interesting that a lot of these

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Speaker 19: ideas that I investigated, Dear Charlie, like Taoism, say, have

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Speaker 19: embodied in them even semantically, notions that can be discovered

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Speaker 19: in Christianity. And when His Holiness the dal Alama gave

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Speaker 19: his recent ninetieth birthday speech, as I sort of read

1065
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Speaker 19: at least, you know, he posted on social media, I

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Speaker 19: read through that Charlie, and I noted that most of

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Speaker 19: his significant points about Buddhism, I could, even with just

1068
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Speaker 19: a year in scripture, match with something from the Gospel.

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Speaker 19: Every aspect was like, this is all in Christ, this

1070
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Speaker 19: is all available to us in Jesus. There is no

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Speaker 19: need for anything other than Jesus Christ. There is no

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Speaker 19: need for anything about Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Russell.

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Speaker 19: It's would you like a throat while I'm fascinated by

1075
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Speaker 19: them you're staring at when you want one?

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Speaker 3: No, I want one. I just want to know the

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Speaker 3: story of them.

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Speaker 1: I lose my voice at these events because I speak

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Speaker 1: fourteen hours a day. So I'll be right back with

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Speaker 1: more from this interview with Russell. Brand first aid to

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Speaker 1: It's truly a can't missinterview.

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Speaker 3: So you fight off with lostenges?

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Speaker 1: Well, no, the lozenges lubricate the throat to prevent you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's very it's very ma I like it.

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Speaker 3: I have to have one hundred a thousand.

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Speaker 1: Lemon eucalyptus.

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Speaker 3: That's good stuff. Man, I'm addicted.

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Speaker 19: I'm gonna grind it out and injects it in my arm.

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Speaker 1: Don't do drugs, kids, We're told all religions are the same. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you really like her?

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Speaker 19: Actually amazing, it's delicious, It's tasty, right, Charlie, No wonder

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Speaker 19: you can speak for fourteen hours.

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Speaker 3: No wonder you can get Gavin.

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Speaker 19: Gruesome newsom to admit that there are different genders.

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Speaker 3: You're powered by lozenges.

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Speaker 1: That's right. He's the only one ever to mention the

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Speaker 1: laws and just no one else has ever met. I

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Speaker 1: would expect expect nothing.

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Speaker 19: Less, so not all religions are the same. That's why

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Speaker 19: I thought that do what do you? What's you what

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Speaker 19: you're said?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're told all religions are the same. What is

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Speaker 1: the differential theater that you want the rest of the

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Speaker 1: world to know about Jesus Christ? About self you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: I mean, for example, Buddhism from me, if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: Russell is a very self centric religion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is. I mean, is this is sorry?

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Speaker 19: You know, sometimes when you're a professional comedian, you realize

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Speaker 19: that you do things that are funny that you where

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Speaker 19: you're not trying to be funny.

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Speaker 3: This is one of them. I'm not even naturally trying

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Speaker 3: to be funny.

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Speaker 19: For me, it seems normal that you would take the

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Speaker 19: lozenge in and out like a cigarette.

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Speaker 21: Well, Charlie, your father and I we used to lozenge

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Speaker 21: together at Harvard. George Bush and I were in the

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Speaker 21: Skull and Bones club. We was lozenge together at Bohemian Grove.

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Speaker 3: Then who's that under the private It's Alex Jones after

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Speaker 3: my monocrobes was Jones? My mologrobes was he?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 19: I mean yeah, like Buddhism is self Buddhism is self centered.

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Speaker 3: If you like I reckon the reason.

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Speaker 19: The thing that I resisted about Jesus was the very

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Speaker 19: thing that I.

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Speaker 3: Needed to yield and surrender to I didn't like.

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Speaker 19: I was missionically infatuated with myself as the kind of

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Speaker 19: center of the world, and the culture also gives.

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Speaker 3: You that offering.

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Speaker 19: It's appealing that your personal identity can be the auta

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Speaker 19: of fullse idolatry, i e. Your sexuality, your race, or

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Speaker 19: your gender. All of those things are in our glorious

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Speaker 19: creations of our Lord.

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Speaker 3: But when you make them.

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Speaker 19: The focus of your spiritual attention, of your devotion, they

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Speaker 19: can't hold it.

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Speaker 3: I look at.

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Speaker 19: The instructions in scripture now not just as edicts to

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Speaker 19: be obeyed, but simply as suggestions that if you follow

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Speaker 19: them you will have a better time. If you turn

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Speaker 19: sex into a type of God, you're going to you're

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Speaker 19: in for a rough ride. If you turn your personal

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Speaker 19: identity into a kind of God, you're living in an illusion.

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Speaker 3: Dial the cross with him.

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Speaker 19: The conversation I refer to between Paul and Peter that

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Speaker 19: as rendered in Galatians, leads to Paul saying I lived

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Speaker 19: by a certain law, and I live by certain law.

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Speaker 19: The idea of self the idea that do as well. Indeed,

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Speaker 19: one of the edicts of Satanism, as espoused by Alista

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Speaker 19: Crowd is do as thou wilt shall be.

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Speaker 3: The whole of the law.

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Speaker 19: That what you want to do is God, that your

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Speaker 19: own desires are God, that by a truncate in curtailing

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Speaker 19: and seceasing of your desires, your somehow being not true.

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Speaker 3: To yourself, that you should be who you are now.

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Speaker 19: Consumerism and commerce benefit if people want to fulfill their

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Speaker 19: desires all the time. Every single purchase is undergirded either

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Speaker 19: by necessitation or desire.

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Speaker 3: But what I have been shown.

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Speaker 19: By our Lord is that the perennial ideas of all

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Speaker 19: this actually that all religions are the same, or the

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Speaker 19: Cambellian ideas of the heroes with a thousand masks, or

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Speaker 19: Jung's ideas about archetypes are not untrue.

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Speaker 3: There are truths presenting themselves again and again through culture.

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Speaker 19: But there is I believe, or some of us, maybe

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Speaker 19: not for everyone who would a how am I, after

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Speaker 19: like fourteen months of Christianity to tell everyone that they

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Speaker 19: have to do immediately what I couldn't do fifteen months ago.

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Speaker 19: But it seems to me that the way of the Cross,

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Speaker 19: the way of the Son, the Father, and the Holy Spirit,

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Speaker 19: is a way of bypassing and navigating your way through

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Speaker 19: the terrible trenches of bewilderment strewn by a culture that

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Speaker 19: wants you ignorant, bewildered, and delirious. You need only glance

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Speaker 19: at the Parisian Olympics to be aware that what they

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Speaker 19: want to do is surpass and supplant the values of

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Speaker 19: Christ with the values of a culture that want you sick,

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Speaker 19: ill and weak. There is an attack on all categories

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Speaker 19: that empower people, whether that's the category of woman or

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Speaker 19: the category of man. These are empowering and holy roles

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Speaker 19: that we might play. I note, since living in Florida,

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Speaker 19: that there's an attack on excellence, on expertise, on competence

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Speaker 19: and capability. They don't want men and women that are

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Speaker 19: awakened and armed and capable of taking care of themselves.

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Speaker 19: They want us all like hopeless blobs and parasites, hooked

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Speaker 19: onto their system of ignorance that tells you there is

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Speaker 19: no God and then tells you that it is the

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Speaker 19: Mary God that denies the existence of omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent

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Speaker 19: wanting complete control through surveillance, and they are a capture

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Speaker 19: and observation and ultimately wants you to submit to its

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Speaker 19: false idols ats false idols.

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Speaker 3: M lozenge. Imagine that was all a campaign.

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Speaker 17: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 17: Terrence Beads. Attorney General Pam Bondi has reportedly directed federal

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Speaker 17: prosecutors to open a grand jury investigation into the recent

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Speaker 17: allegations that the Obama administration manufactured intelligence about Russian interference

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Speaker 17: in the twenty sixteen election. Taking the true social and

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Speaker 17: reposting a New York Times article on the Penning investigation,

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Speaker 17: President Trump writing, the truth always wins out. This is

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Speaker 17: great news. God bless America. Last month, Director of National

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Speaker 17: Intelligence Tolcy Gabbard laid out evidence she says proves the

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Speaker 17: Obama administration that the direction of the then president, worked

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Speaker 17: to actively subvert the twenty sixteen election and the ensuing

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Speaker 17: Trump presidency. President Trump and other members of his cabinet

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Speaker 17: have since directly accused the forty fifth president of treason

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Speaker 17: and sedition. Atlanta's Heartsfield International Airport is cleaning up after

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Speaker 17: a sewer line break sent passengers running for cover. Check

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Speaker 17: out this video, folks, you're about to see it all

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Speaker 17: go down here. Gallons of brown water and sewage caved

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Speaker 17: in the ceiling and it was all caught on camera

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Speaker 17: as you can see.

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Speaker 3: Look at that yuck.

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Speaker 17: The airport released a statement saying, in part, the affected

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Speaker 17: area has been contained and remediation crews are actively working

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Speaker 17: to clean and sanitize the space. Customer service representatives are

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Speaker 17: on site to assist and reroute passengers around the impacted

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Speaker 17: area to ensure minimal disruption. Emergency medical services are also

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Speaker 17: present as a precaution. There is no impact to the

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Speaker 17: overall airport operations.

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Speaker 3: So look at that. Wow, that's nasty.

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Speaker 17: Well, it is wildfire season in California, as a massive

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Speaker 17: blade in central California is threatening hundreds of homes right now.

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Speaker 17: The fire has already eaten up more than seventy two

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Speaker 17: thousand acres, including parts of the Los Padres National Forest.

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Speaker 17: It's affecting Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties with

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Speaker 17: evacuation orders and warnings and affecting parts of both areas.

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Speaker 17: At least three people are said to have been injured

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Speaker 17: so far, and air quality reports are in place. Over

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Speaker 17: a thousand firefighters are battling the Giffered fire, which has

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Speaker 17: been burning since Friday afternoon. At last check, CalFire reported

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Speaker 17: that fire being about three percent contained. Monday afternoon, two

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Speaker 17: more fires erupted in southern California. That's a quick check

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Speaker 17: of your headlines.

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Speaker 12: I'm Terrence, author of the Mega Doctrine and president of

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Speaker 12: Turning Point USA. Here's Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: All right, I need to tell you guys about TikTok.

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Speaker 1: TikTok is amazing right now, Over seven point five million

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Speaker 1: businesses in America are thriving on TikTok, businesses that employ

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Speaker 1: more than twenty eight million people. But behind the stats,

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Speaker 1: grow from a one man show to a team of

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Speaker 1: employ over twenty eight people and pay them well thanks

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Speaker 19: Imagine that whole thing, Charlie, was just an elaborate advert

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Speaker 19: for this brand of lozenge.

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Speaker 3: You know how light Taka does.

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Speaker 1: That is zif so the zins or whatever that He's

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Speaker 1: got his own one now it's called alp so so

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Speaker 1: so Russell, I'll killing us side. When are you going

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Speaker 1: to start a church? Are you are you going to start?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to try to start a ministry? I

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Speaker 1: mean the UK? Could you could use firstly a revival.

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Speaker 3: I'm really trying to surrender to whatever he wants.

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Speaker 19: You know, I've always been I've been talking my whole life,

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Speaker 19: so like it would be immodest, false modest Steve and

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Speaker 19: me to say, oh really, Charlie. You know I'm aware

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Speaker 19: I hear myself talking, but when I'm not sucking on

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Speaker 19: a sweet, sweet lozenge of the Lord. Like, but I

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Speaker 19: do want to participate in his ministry and mission. But

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Speaker 19: because I have a tendency to appoint myself and anoint

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Speaker 19: myself in certain roles, I want to be sure that

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Speaker 19: is the path he would have me walk. And I

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Speaker 19: have pretty serious challenges this amount in the UK when

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Speaker 19: it comes to my personal believe.

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Speaker 1: The entire government is going after Russell. I hope you

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Speaker 1: guys know that, and it's exhausting. Yes, But so Russell,

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Speaker 1: how has that played into your walk with Jesus? Is

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01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: it fair to say? And I'll just I mean, I

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01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: don't mean to it be offensive or provocative, but that

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01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: you were like brought to christ because things started to

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01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: go rather negative, like you were like things started to

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Speaker 1: fall apart and you realize that you had to surrender

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Speaker 1: in front of the cross.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, that's sort of a pretty simple way of putting it, Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Thank you good.

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Speaker 1: But so you're you're under attack from the UK government

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01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: and I think completely fake stuff. And that's what by

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Speaker 1: the way, that's what they do Russell. They're going after

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Speaker 1: Russell because he was so effective and vocal during COVID

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Speaker 1: and he was against the entire COVID narrative. Right, you

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01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: were against lockdowns and you were against all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: and your lawfare started simultaneously with all that. Is that correct?

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Speaker 19: I was saying it was so No, it was a

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Speaker 19: little later, but I knew that I was. It's been

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Speaker 19: revealed that I was under observation from groups like Logically

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 19: AI and CRISP, who are sort of online organizations that

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Speaker 19: often work with either government agencies or government carvauts. You're

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Speaker 19: aware of things like the Atlantic Group and various organizations

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Speaker 19: that will find out by USAID or other CIA carve

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Speaker 19: out organizations.

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Speaker 3: What it seems to have taken place is I provided.

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Speaker 19: A lot of raw material by living like an imbecile

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01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 19: for a long, long while in a way that is

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Speaker 19: not at all in accordance with the way that I've

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Speaker 19: lived as a married man for the last eight years,

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Speaker 19: nine years, ten years of God, that's not going to

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Speaker 19: look good.

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Speaker 3: For my wife.

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Speaker 19: Hold on, let me do some quick maps. Have carried

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Speaker 19: the ones reserve? When's that baby I'll know? Out of wedlock?

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Speaker 19: Sorry Lord, eight years but with a night with my

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Speaker 19: daughter will be nine at her next birthday. Like I've

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Speaker 19: while I was single and young, I live very promiscuously, promiscuously,

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Speaker 19: and when you live like that, I can see that

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Speaker 19: it causes harm. To be selfish in your sexual conduct

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Speaker 19: is essentially exploitative. But there's in my view, a world

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Speaker 19: of difference between that and forcing people to do things

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Speaker 19: against their will. That is a very very clear and

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Speaker 19: atrocious crime.

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Speaker 3: What I believe happened is.

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Speaker 19: That due to the popularity of much of the broadcasting

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Speaker 19: that was taking place at that part of time, which

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Speaker 19: hapn't sort of really organically and almost Charlie Kirk as

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01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 19: a quirk of the technological advancements of that time, like

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Speaker 19: you could exist outside of centralized media, and just as

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Speaker 19: I was doing on YouTube quickly garner a following of millions.

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Speaker 19: We were talking every day about Pfizer's lack of clinical

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Speaker 19: trials and Maderna's relationship with the government, the inability to

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Speaker 19: prove the efficacy of those medicines, the likelihood that the

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Speaker 19: COVID vaccine excuse me, COVID virus originated in a laboratory,

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Speaker 19: This peculiar funding relationships between Darper and COVID, Anthony Fauci's deception,

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Speaker 19: his peculiar visits.

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Speaker 3: With the CIA, his relationships.

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Speaker 19: With Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook, all sorts of stuff that

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Speaker 19: was available, and Charlie would have been reported on the

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Speaker 19: same stuff, and certainly Joe Rogan was I was talking

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Speaker 19: about those kind of things using a variety of articles

1366
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Speaker 19: from people like Matt Tibe and Michael Schellenberger, bringing together

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Speaker 19: sort of narratives. But I think hopefully we were able

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Speaker 19: to speak about it in a manner that was sort

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Speaker 19: of funny. For example, one of the Maderna booster shots

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Speaker 19: was only ever tested on eight mouses, and I would

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Speaker 19: like say, you can't give a whole population a booster

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Speaker 19: on the basis of something that's only been given to

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Speaker 19: eight mouses. And all the while, I'm aware that people

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Speaker 19: are going but the plural for mouse is mice. And

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Speaker 19: little tricks like that help information to land.

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Speaker 1: With the most important part of the state.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely vital focus on the pluralization of the word mauth.

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Speaker 1: Good grammar, mass without grammar.

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Speaker 19: Where there's no point in being vaccinated, there's no point

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Speaker 19: in surviving. Also, I hope that was observing the unspoken

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Speaker 19: narrative of COVID is this check it out. Life is

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Speaker 19: so sacred and each of us so precious, the most vulnerable,

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Speaker 19: no matter who you are, awhere you're from. Life is

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Speaker 19: a sacred gift from God. Therefore, if there's a virus

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Speaker 19: that's a threat to anybody, we must all be locked

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Speaker 19: in our homes, we must all wear masks, we must

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Speaker 19: all obey these edicts, and if necessary, we must take

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Speaker 19: these vaccines. And if you don't you are lacking in compassion,

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Speaker 19: you don't care about others. The entire premise is erroneous,

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Speaker 19: because where else do we see our culture behaving as

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Speaker 19: if life is sacred, as if we must sacrifice ourselves

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Speaker 19: to one another. Indeed, don't they mock those very values.

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Speaker 19: Don't they mock our savior? Don't they mock our Don't

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Speaker 19: they laugh at the idea that there's something more valuable

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Speaker 19: than the fulfillment of self and the adornment of self. Anyway,

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Speaker 19: So during COVID I talked about it a lot. I

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Speaker 19: was pretty loquacious and pretty NonStop about it. The videos

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Speaker 19: were doing well. I was enjoying it, and I'm a

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Speaker 19: kind of a naturally anti establishment person. I suppose I

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Speaker 19: didn't take the vaccine because I don't like being told

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Speaker 19: what to do. I didn't take it because they were

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Speaker 19: telling me. In fact, if they wanted me to take

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Speaker 19: that vaccine, all they would have had to have done

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Speaker 19: is leave a couple of syringes in my bedroom and

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Speaker 19: tell me, under no circumstances, do not touch that, no

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Speaker 19: matter what, It doesn't matter who coughs, or however quietly

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01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 19: in whichever grocery store, don't take those oh, you've already

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01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,520
Speaker 19: taken them, sir. I have taken twenty or thirty vaccines.

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01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 19: I don't like being told what to do. In this way,

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Speaker 19: I am closer to the native mentality of the people

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01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 19: of your nation than my own. Because over in the

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01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 19: UK people as seemed to have happily tumbled into re

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 19: doublished media in the unbelievable obedience. I saw some of

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01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 19: your appearances there on gb News and your debates there.

1415
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 19: I thought you conducted yourself marvelously as always. But I am,

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01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 19: like you, concerned about what's happening in the United Kingdom,

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01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 19: and however you want to carve that up from the

1418
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 19: left or from the right, from a materialist, rationalistic, apheistic

1419
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 19: or Christian perspective. Is a country that is in very

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01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 19: real danger of falling.

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Speaker 1: It is, and so so, Russell, you brought something and

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01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: I want to isolate it. You said you don't like

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: being told what to do. That makes it even more

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01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: incredible that you submitted to Jesus Christ and submitted to scripture. Yeah,

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01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: because that's that's a surface contradiction. So yes, why has

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01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: through that?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 19: I think that might have been one of the initial

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01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 19: obstacles because there's this sort of im pantheonism and paganism.

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01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 19: There's this aggrandizement or acceptance and celebration of what you

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01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 19: might call the humors or the inner deities, your warlike aspect,

1432
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 19: your at the aphrodite aspect, your sensuality. All of these

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01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 19: things can be revered. And I didn't want to submit

1434
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 19: to Christ. I didn't want to surrender Christ. And if

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01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 19: I'm entirely honest, Charlie, there are some days still where

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01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 19: I don't want to bow down in total submission, surrender

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01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 19: and recognize that my self will is my beat.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

1439
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 3: The flesh, the world, and the mentality.

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01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 19: I'm continually caught in a loop of fallibility around these things.

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01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 3: But I can't believe that it's all in scripture. It's

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01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:17,919
Speaker 3: all in the word. But it was like the Scripture

1443
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:18,879
Speaker 3: coming to life.

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01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 19: Somehow, like I felt like it is finished, it is

1445
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 19: done his words on the Cross. I felt the compassion

1446
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 19: that it is available through the love of his Mother,

1447
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 19: through his forgiveness of us, through his acceptance of us.

1448
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 19: That the submission. I do believe that submission to a

1449
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 19: higher good. I believe now humility before honor, before the

1450
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 19: idea of surrender, and still the idea of surrendering or

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01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 19: accepting any human authority as supreme.

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01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 3: I find it kind of repulsive. And I believe that

1453
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 3: there are.

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01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:53,799
Speaker 19: Significant institutional, if not constitutional changes coming to your country

1455
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 19: because I believe that there is an appetite for more

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01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 19: freedom that is growing.

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01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: Freedom cannot exist without virtue, and so freedom will come

1458
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: after and it's happening right now. People go to church

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01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: and give their life to God. You cannot have a

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01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 1: free society if you do not have a society that

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01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: values God. It's impact. That's why continental Europe is so unfree.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's secular. It's interesting, and so the you

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01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: pinpoint something. First of all, there's a great verse that

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Speaker 1: I think you'll love Romans twelfth two, which is, do

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01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 1: not conform to the ways of this world, but instead

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01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Fact check

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Speaker 1: me if I got it right. Roman's twelfth year checking you.

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01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm just the believer's constitution.

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Speaker 3: I consider you a kind of living Bible.

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01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm not quite a living Bible, but I do take

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Speaker 1: that seriously. So Romans twelfth too. It's one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite verses because you talked about your mindset. So that's

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Speaker 1: Romans right there, I think, yes, yeah, twelve two.

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Speaker 19: All right, so this is a new international version, probably Charlie,

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01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 19: so that any distinctions are likely because of the translation.

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Speaker 1: I won't I won't nitpick that.

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Speaker 3: But what do you go with? Y?

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01:22:58,640 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's our new king.

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01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 3: I like ESV as well. All right.

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Speaker 19: So and so, dear brothers and sisters, I plead with

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01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 19: you to give your bodies to God because of all

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01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 19: He has done for you. Let them be a living,

1483
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,520
Speaker 19: holy sacrifice, the kind he will find acceptable.

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01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 3: This is truly the way to worship him.

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01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 19: Don't copy the behavior and customs of this world, but

1486
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 19: let God transform you into a new person by changing

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01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 19: the way you think. Then you will learn to know

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01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 19: God's will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect.

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01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 3: It's beautiful.

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01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 19: I like that it starts off Charlie as well, Noah,

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01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 19: praise the Lord. I like that it starts off with

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01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 19: give your body like That's one of the things that

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01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 19: hit me early on through a Saint Paul, I think

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01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 19: in Corinthians. And it was somewhat by the brilliant rendering

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01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 19: of the British pastor that I first heard use these

1496
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 19: words in a sermon, even though their words were all

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01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 19: familiar with that's frequently misused, of course, sarcastically, even ironically.

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01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 19: Do not know that your body is a temple? Not

1499
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 19: know it has that prefix? Do you not know that

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01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 19: your body is a temple? I like the gentleness of

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01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 19: you wouldn't be doing this if you knew that your

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01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 19: body was a temple. I lived like someone who didn't

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01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 19: know that their body was a temple, a dwelling place

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01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,839
Speaker 19: for the Holy Spirit, a place for the Lord to inhabit.

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Speaker 19: We no longer have a tabernacle that has to be carried,

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Speaker 19: that could go off at any time and kill everyone.

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Speaker 19: We are a living tabernaturil. We are the site of

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Speaker 19: His holiness and his grace. And I want to put

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Speaker 19: this before because I'm thinking of the saying it when

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Speaker 19: I'm talking front of the audience later, which I'm a

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Speaker 19: bit nervous about, Charlie, I'm a bit nervous about talking

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Speaker 19: in front of a big audience.

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Speaker 3: I gain, I get nervous. See this thing.

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Speaker 19: When I went to Rome the other day, I was

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Speaker 19: in one of these churches, you know, like if you

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Speaker 19: ever go Rome, you've got to go it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean it's incredible Rome in.

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Speaker 3: Florida, because there is one is there are Georgia. I

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Speaker 3: don't mean that one.

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Speaker 19: I mean there is a wrong Georgia. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 19: I mean the one with Italians in it. There's probably

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Speaker 19: something in Georgia's, weren't they, But like anyway, I mean

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Speaker 19: full of them, brimming.

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Speaker 3: Over everywhere you look.

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Speaker 19: One of these churches, he's got three Caravaggio's in it,

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Speaker 19: of Saint Matthew. One Caravaggio is one of my favorite

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Speaker 19: sort of late Renaissance artists. There's a lot of darkness

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Speaker 19: in the way he paints and shafts of light. They

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Speaker 19: say that Francis Coppola used his image system heavily for

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Speaker 19: the Godfather movies.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, there's this.

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Speaker 19: One image painting, beautiful, unbelievably beautiful painting of Saint Matthew

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Speaker 19: being appointed and anointed.

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Speaker 3: Like Chosen, like I suppose in the show Chosen, when.

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Speaker 19: Our Lord goes, wait follow me, he goes, Oh, he's

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Speaker 19: not from Essex.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Matthew was a tax collector, so they.

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Speaker 19: Say, And in this picture he's depicted has been sat

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Speaker 19: around with a bunch of other tax payers and near

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Speaker 19: do wells, and at the end of the table rather

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Speaker 19: like this one that you and I are at. Charlie

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Speaker 19: surrounded by them look like they're playing games of chance.

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Speaker 19: I believe it's Saint Matthew at the end of though

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Speaker 19: it's one of those paintings where there's some discussion over

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Speaker 19: which one is Matthew.

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Speaker 12: One percent American maid aren't proud of it. The Charlie Kirkshaw.

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Speaker 3: The one I think is Matthew.

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Speaker 19: When the paint's called the annointing of Matthew or the

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Speaker 19: appointing of Matthew, I can't remember which, probably a point

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Speaker 19: in I suppose like one of the geezers is sat at.

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Speaker 3: The end like that, and I think that's the one

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Speaker 3: that's Matthew, that.

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Speaker 19: One what who's getting appointed. And you will understand his

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Speaker 19: reluctance to be a pointed in this holy mission when

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Speaker 19: you see that. The next of their they're not a triptich,

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Speaker 19: but they are three paintings hung together is Matthew with

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Speaker 19: Gabriel writ in.

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Speaker 3: His Testament and Gospel.

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Speaker 19: And then the final image is Matthew being flayed, which

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Speaker 19: means skinned alive, for his faith and for his Christianity.

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Speaker 19: I thought, if we believed as he believed, how could

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Speaker 19: it be that you could have an institution like the

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Speaker 19: Vatkan and not have a revolution? If if we believed

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Speaker 19: as he believed, how could you have us going to

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Speaker 19: church every Sunday, praying, teaching our kids reading the Word

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Speaker 19: and not have the revolution or at least the way

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Speaker 19: he made straight for the return of our Savior. If

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Speaker 19: we believed only as Paul believed, as Peter believed, as

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Speaker 19: Barnabas believed, as Mary believed, as Stephen believed, this is

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Speaker 19: the church that excites and interests me. And I know

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Speaker 19: it comes at a high cost. And I know what

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Speaker 19: our Lord said to is it a Nias? When Paul's

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Speaker 19: on his way of Damascus, Paul's come in. I've chosen him.

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Speaker 19: He's going to suffer greatly for my names.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to us. More with my conversation with Russell Brand.

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Speaker 3: So go over there and sort his head out.

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Speaker 19: He's gone blind, he's had a little bit of a

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Speaker 19: shock on the way here, paraphrasing. But what I feel

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Speaker 19: is that it the thresholders past, Charlie, that I was

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Speaker 19: still withheld in the New Age, and I still bear

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Speaker 19: the scars of the New Age.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about that, but I

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Speaker 1: wanted to be polite.

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Speaker 19: She'sa is a great goddess in you know, this is

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Speaker 19: attatle I've had for some years now, of course, prior's

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Speaker 19: coming to I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, why did you decide to get a tattoo of her?

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Speaker 19: Because Durgha is a she's female goddess energy. And I

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Speaker 19: have a wife, and I have two daughters, and I

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Speaker 19: always commemorate in and celebrate in the power of my

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Speaker 19: wife Laura, and of my daughters Mabel and Peggy. Durgha,

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Speaker 19: in one of her aspects, rides a tiger, and I

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Speaker 19: like the idea of my daughters and my wife being powerful,

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Speaker 19: strong women who know how to marshal the energy that

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Speaker 19: God gave them. And of course there is no God

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Speaker 19: by him, and I surrender them, bow down to Christ Jesus,

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Speaker 19: and I.

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Speaker 3: Disavow all false idols. But the false.

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Speaker 19: Idols that concern me most are not those that merge

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Speaker 19: out of Hinduism or even Islam, although I'm sure you

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Speaker 19: will hear rhetoric here to the country. No, it is

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Speaker 19: the false idols that emerge from our culture, the ones

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Speaker 19: that the graven images that we stare at day after day,

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Speaker 19: hour after hour, the endless, endless effluvia and limitless flow

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Speaker 19: of filth and pornography.

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Speaker 3: That denigrates and lowers us.

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Speaker 19: Or it's the false idols within our culture that I

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Speaker 19: fear most. But you know, Peter took the Jews and

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Speaker 19: Paul took their gentiles. We're all going to get called

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Speaker 19: to different missions. And I don't claim to know very much.

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Speaker 19: I think about myself all the time, and I don't

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Speaker 19: understand myself yet, so how would I know anything about

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Speaker 19: anyone or anything else. But what I would say is

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Speaker 19: is the false idols in the culture that I fear most,

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Speaker 19: that want us deadened and distracted.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. It's look, modernity has made us materially

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Speaker 1: wealthier but spiritually poor, and that that is modernity, and

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Speaker 1: we are seeing a reckoning of that. While people want

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Speaker 1: to return to a tradition. We'll only know a couple,

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Speaker 1: We only have a couple of minutes I got to

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Speaker 1: get you on stage, but really, yes, this is just

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Speaker 1: the warm up act.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm feeling nervous. How many.

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Speaker 1: It'll calm you down?

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Speaker 3: Give me that from my pocket? No, that's there.

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Speaker 1: Seven thousand people for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Charlie Russell.

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Speaker 1: Your show is called Stay Free, Yes and rumble? Are

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Speaker 1: you do? You believe you are freer and more joyful

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Speaker 1: since giving your life to Jesus.

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Speaker 19: Man, There's no question, even with the really difficult things

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Speaker 19: that happened, like being told that our baby might be

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Speaker 19: born dead, being offered late term abortion, him being born

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Speaker 19: and requiring us a surgery twelve when he was twelve

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Speaker 19: weeks old, turning into the glorious little boy that he

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Speaker 19: is now, the reputational attacks, the exhaustion, the confronting with

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Speaker 19: the things that I have done wrong in my life.

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Speaker 19: I've never been so free in obedience and surrender to him.

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Speaker 3: There is person perfect freedom. There is no freedom out there.

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Speaker 19: There's no freedom in hedonism, in epicureanism, in the constant

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Speaker 19: devouring of concupions and endless pleasures. There's no freedom there.

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Speaker 19: It's an illusion, but it's a powerful illusion. I'm not

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Speaker 19: suggesting I couldn't fall for it again a thousand times.

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Speaker 19: I have to stay very close to Christ Jesus, and

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Speaker 19: to do that I need Christians everywhere around me. And

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Speaker 19: perhaps that's what fuels my evangelism.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, Russell, what has worked for you? Every

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Speaker 1: believer is different? Is it Christian music? Is it reading

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Speaker 1: the Bible? Is it going to church? What keeps you

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Speaker 1: close to Jesus? Because you're right, you're constantly attacked by

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Speaker 1: the way Satan I believe has singled you out for

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Speaker 1: quite a while. And you better believe the enemy is

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Speaker 1: not happy that now you're proclaiming Jesus in front of

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Speaker 1: millions of people. And you know, we as believers believe

1676
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: Satan is real, Satan is active. Yes, Satan attack, Satan targets.

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Speaker 1: Satan is literally in Hebrew Satan means the prosecutor, the deceiver.

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Speaker 1: So all what you are going through in the United

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Speaker 1: Kingdom is a Satanic attack. To try to say, oh, Russell,

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Speaker 1: remember that thing that happened ten years ago. Try to

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Speaker 1: have you feel guilty and ashamed. Remember Satan throughout the

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Speaker 1: scriptures would constantly always whisper, whether it be in the

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Speaker 1: garden or elsewhere, about Oh, you need to be held

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Speaker 1: back by what you once did. But Christ sets you free,

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Speaker 1: and so knowing that what keeps you spiritually active and alive.

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Speaker 19: You know, of course I am cowed by what I've done,

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Speaker 19: but I am attacked for things that I have not done.

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01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 19: I recognize that my objectification and exploitation was wrong, and

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Speaker 19: I accept the forgiveness of my Lord, and I pray

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Speaker 19: for the forgiveness of people that have been negatively impacted

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Speaker 19: by my selfish conduct, by my greedy conduct, by my

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Speaker 19: low conduct.

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Speaker 3: I was told this by this.

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Speaker 19: Brilliant Vietnam vet in your great nation. Everything's a burning bush.

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Speaker 19: Everything's a but he said it like.

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Speaker 1: This, everything's a burning bush.

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Speaker 3: It is how he said it. That's how he said it.

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Speaker 3: May I ask what you mean, sir, And he.

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Speaker 19: Said that Moses could have encountered yeahweh at any time.

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Speaker 3: It could have happened at any time.

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Speaker 19: Take off your shoes, for you are on sacred ground

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01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 19: that all things are incandescent with the Lord, yet not immolated.

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01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 19: All of us burn with the holy light of the

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Speaker 19: Holy Father. All of us feel the living presence of

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Speaker 19: the Holy Spirit, and all of us benefit from the

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Speaker 19: sacrifice of Christ Jesus.

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Speaker 3: And we may know eternal life in him. We access

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Speaker 3: him here in this moment. Let this moment be a

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Speaker 3: burning bush to all of us. Let us comfort one another,

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Speaker 3: let us love one another. Let us serve one another

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Speaker 3: as He has served us.

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Speaker 1: That's all for today. God bless you guys. Talk to

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow.