1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: I'm just about that action also. All right, here we 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: go throwing in Joe. We're saying it to catch. 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: We'll see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: go to wind. 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: That's incredible. Big bank, small bank. I like to make money. 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: All right? This is the ultimate Kabaki. 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Want to. 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: And we are away. 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? This is the Action Network 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: NFL podcast. So thanks for listening. I am your host, 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: Chris Raybond, and in today's episode, we are going to 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: preview the AFC South on the AFC West from a 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: betting perspective. We'll talk win totals and whatever other bets 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: we think could be profitable. Enjoining me as always the 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Degenerate Nation. Stucky, stuck. We've done three. 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: This is the last one of the four. 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: How you feeling feeling great? I just put my cardinals 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: bet in should have came through on the network out 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: and we had some good disagreements on the last AFC one. 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, juices are following. Man, it's great to be 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: talking NFL with you again. 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: Yes, there always a pleasure and just want to let 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: you guys know there are tons of NFL betting episodes 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: that we're gonna have on the channel weading up to 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: week one. We already got the two NFC preview episodes 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,279 Speaker 1: out where we go over every NFC team's wind total, 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: and we have our first AFC episode that should be 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: up as well by the time you hear this. Our guys, 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Jill's Gallant has any Time Touchdown Manifesto episode up, so 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: check that. 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: Out as well. 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: Let's hop right into the AFC South and we will 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: start with the favorite. 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: Which is the Indianapolis Colts. 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Win total is ten, getting a slight break on the juice. 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: It's minus one five to the over, minus one fifteen 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: to the under the cold, somewhat unlucky and injury luck 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: last year o wine should be solid. Frank Reich's saying 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: he wants to throw it a little bit more than 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: last year. He says he feels to win, he needs 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: to throw it more. So that was an interesting comment. 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: Of course. The big news with the Coats from the. 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: Offseason was that Carson Wentz is no longer a Colt. 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: It seems like Ers couldn't get rid of him fast enough, 46 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: so now they got Matt Ryan from Atlanta. I have 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: the Coats favored in nine of these seventeen games. Now 48 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: this setback here at ten. They didn't get there last year. 49 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: It was the first time Frank Reich team went under 50 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: their win total. 51 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: So he's not two and one with a push. 52 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the Coats minus Wentz but 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: plus Matt Ryan. 54 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: I like bringing in Ryan. I think behind a solid 55 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: offensive line with Johns. I mean, if you look, what 56 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: what do you have with the Falcons? The offensive line 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: situation in recent years has not been good, and I 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: think that he's still competent enough. He's obviously passed his prime, 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: but I think that he can still work behind a 60 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: good offensive line and be a significant upgrade over Carson Wentz. 61 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: It helps when you have arguably the best running back 62 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: in the NFL and that good offensive line. I project 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: them right at ten wins, so I don't see any 64 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: value either way. It's well coached team, respect Frank right, 65 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: and yeah they don't have the Carson Wentz just giving 66 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: games away. On the defensive side of the ball, I'm curious. 67 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: I'll just go through the defense really quick. Defensively, I 68 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: like their defensive line. I mean, Davars Buckner's a stud inside. 69 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: I think Quidy pay is going to be a really 70 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: good edge rusher, and then you add in Gockway to 71 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: go on the other side. I am a bit concerned 72 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: about the cornerback situation. Now you do bring in Stefan Gilmour, 73 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: who I think is an upgrade, but he's getting up 74 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: there in age, but the secondary leaves a lot to 75 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: be desired. So you know, when you look at the 76 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: NFL these days, right, what are the our arguably that 77 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: presides a quarterback, which I think they upgraded, but the 78 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: two most important position groups are You could probably throw 79 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: offensive light in there, but just it's a passing league now, 80 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: wide receivers in the AFC if you want to make 81 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: noise wide receivers and then your secondary, and I definitely 82 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: have some questions about both for the Colts. So we'll 83 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: see what Gilmour can get them, because if he's stud 84 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: number one, that can go a long way in helping 85 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: the defense. But what is I'm curious with your thoughts 86 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: on your projections and your thoughts overall on the wide 87 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 2: receiver room. Is Pittman gonna flash the one with Ryan 88 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: Who's going to step up elsewhere? What are your thoughts 89 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: on their wide receiver room. So let's start with Pittman. 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: Pittman for anyone that doesn't know, he's excellent, like he 91 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: is a true number one. If you look at Matt 92 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: Harmon's reception perception, Pittman just killed it in pretty much 93 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: every metric. This guy gets open with the best of 94 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: them in the league. I think people don't realize that 95 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: because he is a bigger bodied guy. You kind of 96 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: type cast those guys sometimes you know they're you know, 97 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: maybe there could catch guy or whatever, but no, like 98 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman could get open. So I think Matt Ryan 99 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 1: will do wonders for him because you know Matt Ryans 100 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: he knows how to get the guys the ball when 101 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: he had Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley. I mean, those guys 102 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: are challenging for the league lead and receiving, so you 103 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: could still get Michael Pittman out like thirty to one 104 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: to lead the league in receiving. I think he'll run 105 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: more downfield rouse this year. You know he's good on 106 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, in breaking routes. He's going to outbreaking routes. 107 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: He was ninety six percentile with Harmon charted against press 108 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: coverage last year. Eighty eighth against zone seventy ninth against 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: straight up man coverage, so that he gets open, he 110 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: does his thing, but there is a big drop off. Obviously, 111 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: Alex Pearce is probably gonna be the other perimeter guy. 112 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: He's a rookie, he's a downfield guy, so you know 113 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: his job is going to kind of be to keep defenses. Honest, 114 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: I don't expect a ton of production. And then Paris Campbell, 115 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean he's going to start in the slot. I 116 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: don't think any of Opotis is really counting on him 117 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: to play a full season. He almost never does, so 118 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if you get a free agent 119 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: signing at some point with this team. You know, Ashton 120 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: Dulan's the number four, he's more of a special teamer. 121 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: And then you know they got a battle going on 122 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: for the fifth with Straightchan and Desmond Patty. So it's 123 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: an underwhelming receiving group outside of Pittman. Uh, but he's 124 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: excellent and the tight end. You know, pass catching is 125 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: not gonna be probably a strength either. I mean they 126 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: got Mooley Cox, there a couple of younger players, so. 127 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 2: Fi gets hurt. Yeah, every team's gonna have ten guys 128 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: in the box. 129 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the worries. 130 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: That's the worry. 131 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: But so like, I think that's a good point because 132 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think the Cults are fairly priced, but 133 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: I do think they have some downside where it's pretty fragile, 134 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Like you lose Pittman and it's an issue. 135 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: Now. 136 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: They got a good backup quarterback in Nick Foles and 137 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: even Sam Ellinger for three, but I think there are 138 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: depth concerns at receiver and then you know, cornerback we'll see. 139 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: You know, Kenny Moore, you got him in the slot still, 140 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: but is Ken Gilmore still play at a high level. 141 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: He has kind of been like he you know, he 142 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: thought he was gonna drop off and then he's still 143 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: pretty good last year, you know when he came back. 144 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: So I mean, but they also Shaquilla Leonard he needs 145 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: to stay healthy as well. You know, there's just a 146 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: few guys on this team, and I mean, what do 147 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: you think of the pass rush because in Gocway just 148 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: had a horrible season last year. 149 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: He just wasn't good, and. 150 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: So the coach, I mean, they were right there with 151 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: the Falcons, is you know one of those teams just 152 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: getting no pressure and I just don't think that's a 153 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: recipe for success, you know, and they obviously got a 154 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator. So what do you think of the 155 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: How do you think the pass rush is going to be? 156 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: I know, Quiddy Pay coming off an injury as. 157 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: Well in Gotway, could be that's the fears that in 158 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: Gocway is trending down in his career because he was 159 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: on a defense that had one of the best edge 160 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: rushers on the other side of him last year and 161 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 2: didn't have a good year. So maybe he's trending down. 162 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: But maybe it was just a flashing the fenure. But 163 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: I actually liked Pay. I thought he flashed enough and 164 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: from what I've seen that he's going to be a 165 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: solid defensive end in this league. And then it also 166 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: helps to have one the best in tier defensive tackles 167 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: in the NFL. I like their linebacker group as well, 168 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: so it's a solid defense if the corners pan out. 169 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: So I think it's a solid defense. It's a solid 170 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: offense with an underwhelming pass catching group in a very 171 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: gettable division. That's the division you want to be in 172 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: the AFC. So yeah, I nothing spectacular for this Colts team, 173 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: but they're gonna be well coached and they'll probably finish 174 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: right around that ten mark. I have them with the 175 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: twenty sixth artist schedules, like the sixth or seventh easiest 176 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: schedule in the NFL, which is awesome if you're in 177 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: the AFC. 178 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: Can we circle Week three though? As a as an 179 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: over game Dus Bradley against the Chiefs. Oh yeah, that 180 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: should be fun. 181 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, I like, I don't. 182 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: I would not bet the Colts over because I agree, 183 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot there's more downside, you know, 184 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: not only in the Coats roster. Just you know, there's 185 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: a few guys that like if they go down, that's 186 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: that's it. I mean most teams are like that, but 187 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: not every team has a win total of ten, you know, 188 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: I think Michael Pittman, the Taylor Shakuiah Leonard, the Forest Buckner, 189 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Like it's still a top heavy team, and you know 190 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: you're kind of like, really, what you're hanging your hat 191 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: on is the week's schedule, and that's always dicey in 192 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: a situation like that. I rather buy low and on 193 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: a team with you know, middling wing total than just 194 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: kind of expect the Colts to stay healthy and everything 195 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: to go according to plan, because you know that it's 196 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: the NFL, that's not usually going to be the case. 197 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, they're then at some key positions and they 198 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's a little bit worry some 199 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: And we always see the Titans every year, which we 200 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: can talk about now they seem to exceed expectations. Now 201 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. I think you know it's 202 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: going to be tougher for them this year. But I 203 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: should point out Mike Rabel is four and oho toward 204 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: the over in his four years with the Tennessee Titans, 205 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: so he's never lost one of those preseason overs. 206 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: And the Titans win totals nine. 207 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: So if they get to ten, now you're right there 208 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: at the coats and it you know that that could 209 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: be an issue. So uh, but the Titans, you know, 210 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: the O line probably take a step back. It's probably 211 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: not as good as it's been in recent years. They 212 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: were actually tenth best in terms of fewest adjusted games 213 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: lost to injury, which is kind of surprising. It just 214 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: seemed like, I guess the guys they lost were very important. 215 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: It was Derrick Henry, and it was AJ Brown and Julio. 216 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: So you know this Titans team. I really don't like 217 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: attacking unders with this Titans team because they just seem to. 218 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: Find a way every year. 219 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: But I mean this road schedule outside of the division games. 220 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean you got Buffalo in the casey, Green Bay, Philly, 221 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: the Chargers. 222 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: You know, Washington's probably winnable game. 223 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna come down to the team 224 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: being able to win on the road and if they do, 225 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: to exceed expectations again. If not, I think it'll be rough. 226 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: Because we saw Tannehill finally come back down to Earth. A. J. 227 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: Brown wasn't there. 228 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: Obviously Henry was out, but counting on Robert Woods on 229 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: Acl Burks has looked terrible. So you're gonna be starting 230 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: probably Westbrook A Kina love Kyle Philps in the slot, 231 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: but there's another team with a lot of downside. The 232 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: difference is the Titans are a little cheaper and they 233 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: tend to exceed expectations. I don't I'm not running a 234 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: better and over with them, but they are one of 235 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: the reasons I don't love the Colts, is what I'm 236 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: trying to say. 237 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love this under I do respect for Abel. 238 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: Look I went over on the Giants, the only team 239 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: to go under in each the past five years. So 240 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: let's let's make it a daily double and go under 241 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: on the only team that has gone over in each 242 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: of the past five years over the window, and that's 243 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: the Titans. You gotta get very well credit. It's gone 244 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: over it each year, and they won twelve games last year, 245 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: even with a number of key injuries on the offense 246 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: side of the ball. As you mentioned, however, this is 247 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: basically like a nine win team when you break it down. 248 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: I mean, let's they did this with the Steelers and 249 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: one of their unlucky lass They're only unlucky loss was 250 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: they went six and two in one possession games. One 251 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: of their only unlucky loss was against the Steelers, who 252 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: I mentioned that if you look back on teams that 253 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: have won over seventy five percent of their one possession 254 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: games in the NFL over the past thirty seasons, major 255 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: regression in general. Obviously there's exceptions, but look take a 256 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: look at what they did last year. Down fourteen in 257 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter at Seattle in the fourth they come back, 258 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: tie and they win by three and overtime. Remember that phrase, 259 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: win by three and overtime again. They came back to 260 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: winning the fourth against the Bills to win by three 261 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: when Josh Allen slipped on a QB sneak inside the 262 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: five yard line in the final seconds. You want another 263 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 2: three point overtime win after troun on the fourth, Well, 264 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: they did that against Indianapolis. Then they beat the Rams 265 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: twenty eight sixteen. They were out gaining three forty seven 266 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: to one ninety four. They averaged three and a half 267 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: yards per play to the Rams five thanks to Stafford 268 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: just decided to throw two pick sixes fourteen three points. 269 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: How about the Saints game with Trevor Simions starting, Saints 270 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: out gained them three seventy three to two sixty four. 271 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: Six point one yards were played to four point six 272 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: Saints horrible. By the way, if you look at some 273 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: of the major blown calls, timing of turnovers, this team 274 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: was just so lucky all year long. Saints had a 275 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: two point conversion the fourth overtime final seconds, didn't get it. 276 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: How about the forty nine ers Remember that game? They 277 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: outgained the Titans three eighty nine to two seventy eight 278 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: over two yards per play. More, they lost by what 279 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: guess what? Three, and then with the top seed on 280 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: the line in the finale against the Texans. Statistically even 281 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: game they won by three, I mean they'd six wins 282 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: by a field goal or less a couple in overtime. 283 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just your year, but it's a regression candidate city. 284 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: I think they got significantly worse. I think the Jags 285 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: will be better. The Texans are just gonna be the Texans. 286 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: And I think the Colts got better at the quarterback 287 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: position and the AFC in general got better. Look, the 288 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: defense is solid, but it's not a defense that can 289 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: carry you to wins in the AFC without an offense. 290 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: And I think this offense will take a significant step 291 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: back into The offensive line is worse off. Their wide 292 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: receiver room is it's ugly, and then you have Derrick 293 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: Henry obviously, but he's gonna be facing all many, many 294 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: more stack boxes. There's also a lot of miles on 295 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: that truck. And if he goes down again with an injury, oh, 296 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: major regression candidate. In a loaded AFC, I think they 297 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: finally go under. It's one of my favorite windows. I 298 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: only project them eight wins and that's despite having a 299 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 2: schedule to just middle of the fourteenth hardest schedule. I'll 300 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: go under, but I'm afraid, trust me, I'm afraid to 301 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: go against fair weel, but I'm doing it. I think 302 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: I beten under it. 303 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was either last year or 304 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: the year before, so maybe I'm still scarred from that. 305 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: I do have my throwback eddie George Jersey on but yeah, 306 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: like the other. 307 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: The other last year. I think I've just spoke on 308 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: the one of the podjasts that I've haven't lost the 309 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: wind total in the past two seasons. But I'm actually 310 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: eight one and four four pushes and that one loss 311 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: was the Titans last year. 312 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so it must have been last We 313 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: were probably both on the under for the Titans. It 314 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: looks so tempting every year. I will say this, like 315 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: the one thing I feel like I say this every 316 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: time we do these pods, but don't overrate the schedule 317 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: just because you have the Jags and Texans, because, like 318 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: I know how you know it works, like every game 319 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: is a win probability, and the Jags and Texans are 320 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: going to be you know, you're gonna get real high 321 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: win probabilities, especially for the two home games against them, 322 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: But you know, you take out those two games. Like 323 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: I said, it's still tough selecting. It's still not going 324 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: to be an easy schedule. I have them only favored 325 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: in seven games. I have them essentially I pick them 326 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: in four more. But you're still gonna need that Titans luck, 327 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: So I respect it. You know, going under, I probably 328 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: won't be there just because this team always seems to 329 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: find a way. But you know, just on paper, it 330 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: makes sense to go under with this team just because 331 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: you know AJ Brown, Like, even if Robert Woods is 332 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: peak health, he's still not AJ Brown. And it looks 333 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: like Burke's is gonna be a lot silverer to develop 334 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: than initially thought. 335 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: So my hot take is Giants up set the Titans. 336 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: We won. 337 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: I yeah, I was looking at that. 338 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: It's one of the bigger spreads in Week one, so 339 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta look at it that a little more. 340 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: But I could see being there with you on that one. 341 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna one of our money line dogs on 342 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: the on the week one, we don't have. 343 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: Worry about the second corner spot as much for the 344 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: Giants in that game exactly. 345 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, which most of the other weeks it is going 346 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: to be a concern. 347 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Jags. 348 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: They are at six and a half on the win total. 349 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: The over you're getting plus money at plus one ten. 350 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: The under is minus one thirty. You know, the on 351 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: line could be a little better, but I still don't 352 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: think it'll be great. I have them favored in two games, 353 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: but do have them with quite a few games where 354 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: they're within a field goal. You know, the Jet at 355 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: the Jets in Week sixteen, Week seventeen against the Texans, 356 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: that's pretty much a pick, but I could I actually 357 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: probably actually would favor them in that game. So yeah, 358 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: they you know, the favored of maybe three games, but 359 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: other close ones that are winnable, like at Detroit. They 360 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: always meet Indianapolis. When Indianapolis comes in to Jacksonville. Even 361 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: in Week one against the Commanders. 362 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: They're winning that game. 363 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's not a game that you would just 364 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: right off that they could win. So they do have 365 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: some kind of sneaky upside here in terms of they're 366 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: not getting a ton of credit in the market. They 367 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: only had three point four Pythagora wins last year. Doug Peterson, 368 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: their new head coach, two and three to the over 369 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: in terms of the preseason win total with Philly. But 370 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: if you know, I think it comes down to can 371 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence take a year two lead because he's gotta 372 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: he's still got to kind of elevate this offense. I 373 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: think it's a very mediocre roster, Like it's it's not 374 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: a roster that will kill you if your quarterback is 375 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: playing well, which you could say about a. 376 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: Lot of teams. But you know, I think Kirk is solid. 377 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: Marvin Jones and z Jones, I mean they're not the 378 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: worst receivers in the leagu they're not the best, and 379 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: ETN should be solid. 380 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: They got Sheriff on the interior. 381 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: You know, what are your thoughts on how Lawrence is 382 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: going to progress now that he has had a having 383 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: a full offseason without the shackles of Urban Meyer. 384 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: I actually saw. I mean statistically, there's you say, wow, 385 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: it was bad for Lawrence and the turnovers are bad, 386 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: But I think from a coaching perspective, things can get 387 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: better and I trust his pedigree and I think that 388 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: he'll have a much better year. And that's what it's 389 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: going to come down to. I think the offensive line 390 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: is okay, serviceable enough. The wide receiver room is serviceable enough, 391 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: but it has to be on Lawrence because the defense 392 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: is going to be bad. It was one of the 393 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: worst defenses in the NFL last year, and I mean 394 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: you had Darius Williams. If they're down near corner, Shack 395 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: Griffin at the other corner, it's just a very under 396 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: like I just look at the defense and you're very underwhelmed. 397 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: It'll be one of the worst defenses in the league. 398 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: So it comes down to Lawrence and coaching up Gred 399 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: and I think they'll be improved. I project them like 400 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: six point three wins. I don't see any value with them, 401 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 2: but I think that there is some downside. I mentioned 402 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: downside risk with the Colts, and I'm really low on 403 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: the Titans. By the way, my prediction Jags beat the 404 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: Titans in Week seventeen. If the Titans need it, Jags 405 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: always win that game and usually to get the Colts. 406 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: Colts fan should be happy they're not playing the Jags 407 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: week eighteen, I should say so. Yeah, maybe jag take 408 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: a fly on the Jags to win the division or 409 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: even to make the playoffs. I think that's the bat. 410 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: Maybe Jags to win the playoffs because I think that this. 411 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: You have to win this division to get to the playoffs. 412 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: There's not a wildcard team from this division in the NFC. Yeah, 413 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: the Jags are probably better. They'll have a better price 414 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: to win the division. So because there is a chance 415 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: that you could, So I wouldn't wory about. I wouldn't 416 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: bet them win make the playoffs. Would bet them win 417 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: the division as a long shot. I'm personally not but 418 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 2: I don't hate it. 419 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: That's for plus four to fifty to make the playoffs, 420 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: plus seven fifty to win the AFC South. 421 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not even a consideration. It's plus you bet 422 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: that plus seven fifty. I can't see the Jags making 423 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: as a wild card in the AFC. Just division is 424 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: punching one ticket. So yeah, I think that they'll be better, 425 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: The'll be more competitive. I'll probably be on the week 426 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: one against Washington and uh, if you want to take 427 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: a fly and then the win division plus seven to fifty, 428 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: don't hate it. Maybe maybe I will throw change on it. 429 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: We'll say what do you play? By the way, all 430 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 2: the receivers, whatever happened to the labiscus chanal all? Remember 431 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: all the love for labiscus? 432 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think Doug Peterson played fantasy and he 433 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: was mad, so he just dumped him down a fifth 434 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: on the depth charts. 435 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: What seems to be going on? And uh, from what 436 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: I say, the detection, Yeah, from. 437 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: What I'm hearing, yeah, he's been on the on the 438 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: on the trade block, but. 439 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: Number one revenge games. We're gonna have two revenge games. 440 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: I mean. 441 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: The only thing is, I don't know if you trade 442 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: him in the division. 443 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: You know that that's but I was hearing Texans Saday 444 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: for some reason. I was like, that's here. 445 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's it's but it's not encouraging that he's 446 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: been on the block for a while reportedly, and it 447 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: just not much interest maybe outside of the text. I mean, 448 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: half the teams and pretty much every team in this 449 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: division needs a receiver more than almost any other team 450 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: outside of this division. 451 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: So maybe that's why they haven't been able to move him. 452 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: But not Ravens Ravens All, I feel like. 453 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: No, absolutely, I just I mean I liked him coming out, 454 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: but I think he's he's kind of you would hope 455 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: he can turn into like a cord All Patterson. I 456 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: think he's more of a gadget guy. So I think 457 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens need more more of a true outside receiver. 458 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: That's why I wouldn't say him to the Ravens. I 459 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: think they an outside guy. But we digress. 460 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: I agree. I think the. 461 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: Defense there's there's just a lot of holes for this 462 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: Jags team. That's where it's not like, oh, there there 463 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: is dar Wing six and a half when you know 464 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: it's bet the over, you know, could they get to 465 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: seven wins because they win the division? Absolutely, I think 466 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: it's an upside team if you if you are, you know, 467 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: kind of betting on them. 468 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: But it's also you know, just kind of like the 469 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: Coast and the Titans. 470 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's they're kind of teetering on the edge 471 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: of it could also be just disastrous if, like if 472 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: Lawrence just doesn't take a step or you know, they 473 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: loses like a stuck. 474 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: It will be because their defenses can't win any games. 475 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, or they lose like one of you know, let's 476 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: say Kirk or Etn or Sheriff, like go any one 477 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: of their impact players on offense. I mean, yeah, They're 478 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: defense is not gonna win them any games. In the 479 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: offenses like very mediocre, and even if Lawrence took a 480 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: step forward. It will probably be mediocre at best. 481 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, not rushing out. You know, maybe maybe they'll 482 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 2: get to love me. 483 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: If it got up to seven, I might think about, 484 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, coming back on the on the under. 485 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: But right now, yeah, I don't see any value. 486 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: I don't only have them favored in three games, so 487 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're, like I said, small dogs and 488 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: a lot of others. But it's kind of I think 489 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: the market's kind of on. 490 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: Point with them. 491 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: The Texans four and a half should be one of 492 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: the worst teams in the league. They're plus one hundred 493 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: to the over. I don't have them favored in any games. 494 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: I do have them actually no, yeah, I don't have 495 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: them favor in any game. So that's and they're and 496 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: they're I have them as touchdown or more underdogs in 497 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: over half of their games. So this it's gonna be 498 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: ugly for the Texans. They only had four point one 499 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: ptagaran wins last year, and I mean, outside of Damian 500 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: Pierce that. 501 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: Are running back, they're probably worse. 502 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: So I really don't have any confidence in this Texas team. 503 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, we don't need to spend 504 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: time on the Texans. They stink. I project four four 505 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: three four four. It's really tough for me to go 506 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: under four and a half. In the NFL, they get 507 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they're winnable games, are you. Look and it's 508 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: like Cleveland, Like I could see them winning that game. 509 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: Now Watson's first game back, if he's like stream ross, 510 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: the team, whole team gets up for that. Maybe they 511 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: steal that game. You know, you get the Jags at 512 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: home late in the year, you got the Commanders at home, 513 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: you know, the Titans at home, like these divisional home games, 514 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: and said, like, I could see them getting four or five. 515 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: Like the NFL, you're gonna there's gonna be like an 516 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: upset or two. So yeah, I think the numbers about right. 517 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: This team stinks. And like Love, I'm not a fan 518 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: of Love the Lovey Smith higher and Davis Mills quarterback. 519 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: It's okay, this roster's awful. The team's awful. I'll probably 520 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: be on them too many times this year betting them all. 521 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: I was jumped to the loaded AFC will start with 522 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They win totals ten and a half minus, 523 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: won twenty to the over, brust one hundred to the under. 524 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: They were the luckiest team in terms of miss games 525 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: due to injury last year, which. 526 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: Is interesting in every department. 527 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is interesting because it was also the first 528 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: time in nine years as head coach of the Chiefs 529 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: that Andy Reid did not lead this team over their 530 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: preseason win totals. So now the division's obviously loaded. You 531 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: add in Russell Wilson. I think the Raiders are going 532 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: to be better than people expect. We can talk about 533 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: that in a bit. 534 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 2: I still have the. 535 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs favored in ten or eleven games, but there's a 536 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: lot of close ones there, so that could kind of 537 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: go either way. They had eleven point two Pythagora wins 538 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: last year, So what do you think of the Chiefs? 539 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: You know, some people will say, you know, Andy rid 540 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: always goes over and they just kind of bet them 541 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: for that reason. But how do you think they're going 542 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: to adjust to life after Tyreek. 543 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see how they had and looked. 544 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: It felt like they were unlucky with turnovers earlier in 545 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: the year. Yeah, they definitely got health, they were injury luck. 546 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: They enjoyed some injury luck for sure, which they can't 547 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: afford to have. But it's a they're well coached, and 548 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: I expect the Chiefs to make some adjustments offensive that 549 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: the league is kind of adjusted them. My home is 550 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: still arguably the best quarterback league. If not, you can't 551 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: argue it's not top three, and the statistics were that 552 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: out last you know, there were some struggles. The league 553 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: is kind of adjusted. Now you don't have to Tyreek 554 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: Hill to kind of take the top off. But we'll 555 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: see what Scantling can do. And then you know, you 556 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 2: added sky More in the draft, so juju, it's yeah, juju, 557 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: you add So there's these receivers that have potential, but 558 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: there's more question marks. So we see. Obviously you still 559 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: have Kelsey. You got to really love the offensive line. 560 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: They just had some excellent draft picks with some young guys. 561 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 2: Should only get better. And then Orlando Brown at left tackle, 562 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: he only started to get better after coming over from Baltimore, 563 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: then adjusting kind of the scheme change. So yeah, it 564 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: should be one of the best offenses in the NFL. 565 00:24:53,720 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: Once again, the questions for me all come on the 566 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. As always, What did they 567 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: really do to address the defense? Nothing? You know you're 568 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: gonna be hoping a rookie can help you at corner said, 569 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: luck you lose Honey Badger. It's just so important to 570 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: them in so many ways. At least Sorenson won't be 571 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: on the field anymore. And I guess that's the only 572 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: positive I can give. But how's this team getting pressure? 573 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: How are they stopping to run? The secondary? Is worse? 574 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: You like this? 575 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: Stay? 576 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: No, I was gonna say. 577 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they have at least some upside 578 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: in terms of the pressure department. You know, they got Dunwab, 579 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: they got car Loftis. You know, they still have Jones 580 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: on the inside. You know, Clark obviously needs to step 581 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: it up. 582 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: Clark is awful. Yeah's people he's done. Yeah, he doesn't 583 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: do anything. But but I mean, now you've got a 584 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: couple of flash plays. 585 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: But now you have done lot, which you know, I 586 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: think there is a few years in there when the 587 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: linebackers were awful. 588 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: I think it'll be a little better. I like Gay. 589 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: I like oh jerryus Snead too as well. 590 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: So I think I like, I get you lost Ward, 591 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 2: you lost Honey Badgers. Yeah, and then you're talking about 592 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 2: guys you kind of like. I agree. I like Gay 593 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: and I actually like thorn Hill and Snead. But it's 594 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: like you're replacing Honey Badger with Justin Reid. You're replacing 595 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: Ward with a rookie. This defense is gonna be bad again. 596 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they can't win a lot of games, but 597 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: the AFC is tougher, and I have the Chiefs with 598 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: the hardest schedule in the NFL. I project them ten 599 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 2: point three, but their defense might be worse than I think. 600 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: I'm it might end up being closer to ten. I 601 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: got to take a deeper dive look into their defense. 602 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: But I would lean under now enough to play it. 603 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: I do think that there's value in oh, p checko. 604 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: You've maybe you got a mench of check though maybe 605 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: he looks has looked awesome, the Rutgers boy. But yeah, 606 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: I mean I would lean under here. But I'm going 607 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: to attack the Chiefs in another way. And I mean 608 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 2: first of all, that their division is loaded, and I 609 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: think the Chiefs probably got a little worse and they 610 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: might have some negative aggression coming. So I think their 611 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: defense got worse. And you lose Tyreek kill, yeah, and 612 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: then you don't get the two free wins, and then 613 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: fifty three points in both games against the Raiders this year. Yeah, 614 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: with their coaching changes, but you know, you start out 615 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: at Arizona. I actually like them in that game. Talk 616 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: about a coaching mismatch. I mean, just this schedule and 617 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: Chargers at Colts at Bucks home against the Raiders, home 618 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: against the Bills, at Sant Fran home against the Titans, 619 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: home against the Jags. There's a little break and then 620 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: it's at Chargers, Rams, at Bengals at Broncos. Yeah, it's 621 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: non stop. At the back end of the schedule. You know, 622 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 2: you get the Texans and Seahawks, but is it's the 623 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: hardest schedule in the NFL. It's loaded and you're in 624 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: the AFC. The defense is gonna be bad. They're gonna 625 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: have to win shootouts and stay healthy on the offensive 626 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: side of the wall. But I actually like the I 627 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: actually think the Chargers have a better overall roster. Now 628 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: they have an easier schedule. They don't have quite as 629 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 2: good of a home field advantage. But I actually think 630 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: there's value in the Chargers the division. Yeah, the Chiefs. 631 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: I mean, like you pointed out, they have three gimmes 632 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: on the schedule this year. Versus Jacksonville in Week ten, 633 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: at Houston in Week fifteen and versus Seattle in Week sixteen. 634 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: Outside of that, I mean, every game is going to 635 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: be tough. You know, the Chiefs are obviously have one 636 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks and coaches in the league, but 637 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 1: you're talking about essentially coin flip games versus a lot 638 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: of quality teams or just you know in the division, 639 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: even the Raiders, who are the you know, projected to 640 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: be the worst team in the division. They're not easy 641 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: out anymore for the Chiefs, especially as you mentioned, without 642 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley, just you know, playing that same exact cover 643 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: three every. 644 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: Single time that the Chiefs just eat up. 645 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I know Andy Reed does this every 646 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: year and the total has come down, but I think 647 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: it's rightfully come down. Just a lot of variants in 648 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: terms of you know, the Chiefs will be good, but 649 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they win eleven games. That doesn't mean 650 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: they win twelve games. They know they could be good 651 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: and still end up unlucky, end up with like a 652 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: nine to eight record. So I wouldn't touch the over 653 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: for them. About the Chargers, they won total's ten. It's 654 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: juice to the over a minus one forty, So you're 655 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: talking more like ten to three. This is a team 656 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: that I have favorite. I just about the same amount 657 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: of games as the Chiefs, but same thing. I have 658 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: eleven games where they are you know, they have a 659 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: field goaler less spread and their favorite. I have a 660 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: favorite in seven of those games. I pick them in 661 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: three more. You know, talk about their roster because I know, 662 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: I know Jackson now is gonna miss maybe maybe the 663 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: opener in a couple of weeks. 664 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: But I did like what they did getting Jacks. 665 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: I think he's such an impact player, was so massive 666 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: to what New England was able to do on defense. 667 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: And you get Khalil Mack. You know the offense, we 668 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: know they're gonna be good. The line should be good. 669 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: So how do you like this Charger team so much? 670 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? I love this team. You can make the case 671 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: that they have the best roster in the NFL. We'll 672 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: say that there's some pieces that have to come together, 673 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: so they're not as I think the Bills are more 674 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,239 Speaker 2: of a known commodity. But what the Chargers did and 675 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 2: what they flashed last year, and they were a bit 676 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: unlucky overall. They went out and they signed twelve free 677 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: agents to contracts worth over one hundred and fifty million 678 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: to address some of the holes on the roster. Then 679 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: they traded for Khalil Mack and then drafted Zion Johnson 680 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: has looked great to address one of the guard positions. 681 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: Offensive line has been a major weakness now not the case. 682 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 2: The only real weakness. I mean, if you look at this, 683 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: the defense last year was the problem. The defensive line 684 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: you still have some questions about in the interior, but 685 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: everywhere else you have to love what they did. Adding 686 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: j C. Jackson is enormous, and you know, you add 687 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: Bryce Callahan and the slot you have Derwin James, one 688 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: of the best safeties in the NFL. There's you know, 689 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: you added Khalil Mack to help off with the edge 690 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: by the way of Joey Bosa still there. So they 691 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: really short up the defense. I think the offensive line 692 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: will be a lot better, and you know, I think 693 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: they upgraded at tight end. Herbert should only continue to 694 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: get better. The only weakness on this roster defensive line 695 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: something to monitor, and the run defense has really been 696 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: an issue. But the right tackle and I mean Storm 697 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: Norton stinks. I hope Trey Pipkins. I think they're gonna 698 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: name a starter there and soon. I hope he wins 699 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: the jobs. I think he has better upside. They've been 700 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: splitting reps, but yeah, they've really gone out and I 701 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: mean Rayshawan Slater is a stud at left tackle, and 702 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: they've addressed a lot of the holes on this roster. 703 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: I think it's arguably the best overall roster in the NFL. 704 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: And I like them. I don't think that they should 705 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: there should be that much of a discrepancy as there 706 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: is in the division compared to the Chiefs. I actually 707 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: have them. Let's see. I project the Chargers, yeah, to 708 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: win more games they have. They still have a hard schedule, 709 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: but they had like the eighth hardest schedule instead of 710 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, which is the first. I project the Chargers 711 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: to win more games, even with a depressed home field advantage, 712 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: which is dwindling across the board anyway. But yeah, I 713 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: think that there's some value in the Chargers to win 714 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 2: the division. I threw a little bit on it. I'm 715 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: a little fit afraid of the cannibalization in the division. 716 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: It's just so brutal, But yeah, I think the Chargers 717 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: actions should be favorite. Yeah. 718 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: The plus two twenty you know, I think it's just 719 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: a it's such a loaded division that it personally, I 720 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: prefer like a team like the Vikings or the Eagles 721 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: that you know, they're kind of in that same range, 722 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: but uh, it's kind of more of a two man race. 723 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: The downside with the charges is it's I think it's 724 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: actually a four team race. 725 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: But I love the roster. I think Herbert is an 726 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: absolute study. 727 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: I think Staley is not going to always get you know, 728 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: credit by the media depending where you fall on like 729 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: the analytic spectrum. 730 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: But you know, he's adding win probability with a lot. 731 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: Of the decisions he's making on the offensive side of 732 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: the ball for and that's great. 733 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 734 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's it's it's a good team real quick, 735 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: because I know people listening are probably gonna ask this 736 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: this on Twitter, what are you going into Week one 737 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: with your baseline home field advantage because you mentioned it 738 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: it's dwindling, and I know people are going to be like, 739 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, have questions about that. 740 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I still might be too high, but my overall 741 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: average is just over one, like one one one point 742 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: one yeah, points for home field. Of that, now, I 743 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: should mention there are times this is more situational, but 744 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: home field avents does not mean as much in division 745 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: games historically, so it's I have an adjustment for that. 746 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: Teams are more familiar with where they're playing, where they're 747 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: traveling to, which matters, and then you obviously do it 748 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: every year and familiar with those teams travel also impacts it. 749 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: And then there's obviously different range of home field advantages 750 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: with like the you know, you're gonna have the Saints 751 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: and the Chiefs and the Seahawks, and then obviously the 752 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: Broncos have the highest because the altitude are up over 753 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: one and a half, and then you have teams like 754 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: the you know, Washington the Chargers, which are under one. 755 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, cool, thanks. I just wanted to make sure 756 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: we get that in there because I know. 757 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: People, it's hary. It's hard to figure. It's hard to 758 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: adjust those things because it's like there's so much noise. Yeah, 759 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: and those results and you have the COVID year and there. 760 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: Yes, I was just going to say that the COVID 761 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: year was crazy just from like a lot of different 762 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: perspectives to where you almost have to like not throw 763 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: it out in the sense of like you know, the players, 764 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: but some of the baselines, like just completely changed. There's 765 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: so much more offense that year totals went went crazy, 766 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: Like yeah, it was it was a It just makes sense. 767 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 2: Basically, what I'm doing is just monitoring all the data 768 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 2: and then I've been slowly reducing home field advantage across 769 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: the board each year, and sometimes I think I'm not 770 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 2: doing it aggressively enough, But that's the approach I'm taking 771 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: in and I value I'll actually take a look before 772 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: the season again a deeper dive, but that's where I'm 773 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: at right now. 774 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: No, I mean, that's generally the range I'm into. You know, 775 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: it's it's not much higher than one anymore. It used 776 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: to be, you know, closer to you know, high ones two, 777 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: and then it's really come down with these last few years. 778 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: But let's uh, let's. 779 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: Finish it out. We got the Broncos and a Raiders 780 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: to talk about. Broncos win to it was ten minus 781 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: one ten on both sides of that. They were unlucky 782 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: with injuries last year, fifth most games lost adjusted according 783 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: to Football Outsiders. 784 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: They get Russell Wilson Broncos Country. Let's rob it. 785 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: Works, not only because you're massive upgraded quarterback, but I think, 786 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: and in particular needs a quarterback Mike Wilson. So it's 787 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: good to hear that they're having a good camp, you know, 788 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: in terms of their chemistry that's building. I only have 789 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: them favored in nine games. I have another four as 790 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: a pick them and then you know there's obviously some 791 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: close games even in the nine, so you know it's 792 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: a tough division where they're probably the third best team realistically. 793 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: I think their roster is pretty strong as well, but 794 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: these teams are really going to beat. 795 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: Up on each other. 796 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: So I'm not going under on the Broncos, but I 797 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: would not go over either. But what are your thoughts 798 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: with this with Russ Intel. 799 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 2: There's still some questions on this roster. I still have 800 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: questions about the offensive line. On defense, the cornerback situation 801 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: is fairly underwhelming. I did like the addition of Randy 802 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: Gregory up front, but there's you know, some potential holes 803 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 2: on this defense and along the offensive line. Really good team, obviously, 804 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 2: really tough schedule. It's it's gonna come down to what 805 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: Russ can provide. That's that's kind of the I project 806 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: him at right at ten wins. I think what's there 807 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 2: implied nine to eight ninety nine, So I don't see 808 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: any value either way. I do think that they're the 809 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 2: third best team in the division, that's Rovin Power. They're 810 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: a step behind the Chiefs and Chargers. I'm curious to 811 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: get your thoughts done. I don't I keep I'm flaky 812 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: with this, but it depends on which side of the 813 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: bet I wake up on. But with Russell Wilson, he 814 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: obviously last year, you know, he has a thumb injury, 815 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 2: and then it obviously appeared like he came back way 816 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: too early and he was awful, and then he kind 817 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: of looked like himself right before the end of the year. 818 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 2: But he's gonna be thirty four this year, and he's 819 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: different than like Brady right in the sense that he's 820 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: not just taking a snap and then sitting in the 821 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: pocket and working. Like the reason why Russell Wilson probably 822 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 2: won't age as well. It's always been probably one of 823 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 2: the best, most accurate peoples in NFL history. But he 824 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 2: also his legs have always been in his creativity. Part 825 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 2: of that has to do with his size, but he 826 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 2: also just is extremely athletic. It can use that to 827 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 2: his advantage. So that is going to start to diminish 828 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 2: at some point. So when do we start to see that? 829 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 2: So last year was that just all injury? And now 830 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: he's healthy, and then like I just assume that we're 831 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 2: getting we're still at peak ross from two years ago 832 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 2: and the rust that we've seen forever, or like should 833 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 2: I build in Like, all right, he's still obviously an 834 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: enormous upgrade over what the Denver quarterback situation has been. 835 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 2: But that's kind of the that'll maybe be the difference 836 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: between Denver potentially missing the playoffs, like they're gonna be 837 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 2: really good regardless, but the AFC would ten games to 838 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 2: miss the plaus this year or being a legit Super 839 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: Bowl threat? Is that Russ ceiling still where it was? 840 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 2: You have any thoughts on that? It's a hard question. 841 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: I think it is. 842 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: You know, just historically quarterback aging curves, they're a lot 843 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: more gradual than obviously you can't really compare anyone to 844 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but you know, he's still averaged eight point 845 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: four adjusted yards per attempt last year that was you know, 846 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: that's actually point two of his career average of eight 847 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: point two. And I really think that he was held 848 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: back in that scheme in Seattle, you know, by the play, yeah, 849 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: by the play can because it's you know, not even 850 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: just the offensive coordinators. Obviously they had different ones that 851 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: all came under fire. But Pete Carroll just you know, 852 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: he's a run first coach. That's what his philosophy is. 853 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: And a lot of times what you would see with 854 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: Wilson is he would just feel like he had to 855 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: maximize every opportunity that he had to pass. So he 856 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: would you know, he's the best deep off throw in 857 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: the league arguably, but he would still you know, there'd 858 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: be some ill advised decisions there. You know, he'd be 859 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 1: chucking it deep on third and five after two runs, and. 860 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 2: It just it wasn't a good situation. 861 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: So you know, he kind of now he's at a 862 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: destination where I'm sure you know, in acquiring him, they 863 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: kind of gave him some assurances that they're gonna run 864 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: offense a little bit more to how he would like 865 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: to run offense. And you also look at Seattle's you know, 866 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: and this has been a trend with them. They're blocking 867 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: their old one hasn't been good. They were seventh the 868 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: great up seventh worst last year. Denver graded up ninth 869 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: best and just looking at the line, I mean, you 870 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: know it should be solid across the boards. It's not spectacular, 871 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: but you know, I think he's gonna get better protection, 872 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 1: a downgrade at wide receiver unless you know, Judy really 873 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: breaks out and Sutton returns the form. But I think 874 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: he fits really well with Sutton. I like this rookie 875 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: kid Washington. I think he ends up winning that job 876 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: in the slot over kJ Hammler and uh yeah, it's 877 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: this team. I think Russ is gonna be fine, is 878 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't think he'll be the reason 879 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: why Denver doesn't go as far as they could go 880 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: this year. I think, like you said, it probably will 881 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: more have to do with you know, can can then 882 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: the defense stay healthy, can can chub you know, stay 883 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: healthy to form a pair with with Gregory? You know, 884 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: what are you gonna get out of the cornerbacks? Uh? 885 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: You know, we know certain is probably gonna gonna be good, 886 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: But what can you get out of. 887 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 2: Darby and Williams? 888 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: So I think that's really the questions more so than 889 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: than Russ. I think I think Russ will be final 890 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: though the death that receiver is getting a lit within 891 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 1: now with you know no Tim Patrick, but like I said, 892 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: I do like Okaweb when I'm one of the in 893 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: terms of tight ends gets targeted. It was targeting about 894 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: twenty four percent of his route last year, so he 895 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: gets open at that position. And like I said, I 896 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: think this kid Washington Montreal Washington is actually going to 897 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: give them another element. And people probably don't know much 898 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: about him, but I think he's gonna play well. So 899 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: as long if they can keep Judy and sutt and healthy, 900 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: I think they'll be fine. The running game should be 901 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: good with Javonte Williams and Melvin Gordon, so you have 902 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: everything kind of in place for Russ to have success. 903 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: On offense, I think it's you know, defense without Fangio. 904 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: How high is the ceiling now? I think that's really 905 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: more of the question. 906 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the defense definitely takes step back. By 907 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 2: the way, that was very well pronounced by you, I'm 908 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 2: not even gonna try because I always just say. And 909 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 2: by the way I earlier, I think I might have 910 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: said Darius Leonard, it's Shaquille now. Yeah, it's Sequille now, 911 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: and which like no one knew, he said he didn't 912 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: even want, never wanted to bring it up the other week. 913 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 2: He said, you know, it's been five years for someone's 914 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 2: spring up. I think it's his middle name. But I 915 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: was looking at the when I started my NFL prep, 916 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 2: I was pulling up all the depth charts and I'm like, 917 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 2: who the fuck is Shaq Leonard? I was like, what 918 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 2: happened to Daris Lennard. I'm looking and I'm like, supposed 919 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 2: to say Shaq Thompson, Like what? I was so confused 920 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 2: for like two minutes, and I was like, oh wait, yeah, 921 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 2: I forgot. I read that he now goes by Shaquille Leonard. 922 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 2: But there's got because there's another guy named Shaquille linebacker 923 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 2: the NFL. And then I'm like Leonard. I'm like, did 924 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 2: Darius Leonard get? Did I miss Daris Leonard getting traded? 925 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 2: Did he retire? I was like, what the hell? What? 926 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: What I was in my mind was just couldn't wrap 927 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 2: around looking at that name. Obviously, I was like my 928 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 2: first day of cracking the NFL books back open too. 929 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, that was funny but well pronounced on Alberta. 930 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you sir, and uh if you had 931 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: if you had trouble with Leonard, don't uh don't look 932 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: at the Saints wide receiver depth shock because they got 933 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: some guy named Deontay Hardy now who was formerly known 934 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: as Deontay Harris. So we got, when's the last time 935 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: you had two nos? 936 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: Really? 937 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Deontay Harris is Deontay Hardy. Robbie Anderson is now 938 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: R O B B I E instead of R O. 939 00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: I saw that. 940 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: So it's like if you if you have spreadsheets where 941 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: you're like you do look ups, which I have a 942 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: ton of specious murder is it's just not ideal. But 943 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,959 Speaker 1: let's let's talk with Raiders real quick, because my whole 944 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: kind of philosophy with this loaded AFC West is that 945 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: you kind of mentioned. I think it's a lot closer 946 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: than people think. The Raiders are actually my favorite team 947 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: if you're going to invest in the AFC West, because 948 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: I just I think they are going to be a 949 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: quality team. You know, adding Devontae Adams, you know, adding 950 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels a head coach. You know, they were pretty 951 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: unlucky in terms of the injury. I still the old 952 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: line obviously is still a concern, which is why they're 953 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: in the seller. But you know, I have the Raiders 954 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: favored in nine games, and you know that's already over 955 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: there their win total, and then I have them pick 956 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 1: them in two more so, But at the same time, 957 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: I'm curious as your thoughts on this. You know, they 958 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: have that red flag of major aggression candidate. You know, 959 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: they only had six point nine Patagren wins last year. 960 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: It won ten games, they got into the playoffs. So 961 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: it's like, I have these kind of competing notions of 962 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: the Raiders. 963 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 2: But I look at you know, I look at the roster. 964 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: I like the fact that they should be able to 965 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: throw the ball regardless of the offensive line. I think 966 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: they got a good group of running backs, but Daniels 967 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: is always using his backs, and I think, you know, 968 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: on defense, they're gonna be able to rush the passer. 969 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: You know, you got Crosby and Chandler Jones. That's always 970 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: a plus. And then you know Rocky Scene is actually 971 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: one of the better corners in the league last year, 972 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: Hobbs is one of the better swat corners in the league. 973 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: So and now and now you don't have Gus Bradley there, 974 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: who's just gonna play the scheme that like certain teams 975 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: are just gonna obliterate. 976 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 2: So like I don't know. 977 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: I like the Raiders, but you know, obviously in this 978 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: division and then you know the regression thing, it's kind 979 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: of I don't know, what do you what do you 980 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,439 Speaker 1: think of the Raiders? 981 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: I'm not crazy or is is this team? Yeah? I 982 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 2: think so. I mean you got too out of two 983 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 2: star players really have been tacking both sides of the 984 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 2: ball in Chunes and Adams, which is obviously gonna impact, 985 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 2: but like rushing the passer and throwing the ball like, 986 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 2: weren't really the weaknesses of this team. So I'm still 987 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 2: the offensive line, the secondary linebacking room is still a 988 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 2: major conservaive man. Yeah, you mentioned it. They were extremely 989 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 2: lucky all of last year and if you just look 990 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 2: at what seven to two and one score games, you 991 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 2: know they but they also played the Covid Browns roster. 992 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: Remember that game they played I think Wentz had Covid 993 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 2: when they played him, They played per Set, they played 994 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 2: Drew Locke and yeah, Nick Mullen when he was on 995 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: the Browns, so they played a number of different backups 996 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: as well. They were just lucky across the where they 997 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 2: won three more games than they were I mean their 998 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 2: Pythagora wins plan I mean, so if you look historically, 999 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 2: that is bad news. And the division got better, The 1000 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 2: Charters got better. The Chiefs are going to be close. 1001 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 2: I think they got a little worse, but the Broncos 1002 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 2: got better. The AFC overall is better, and I had 1003 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 2: them with the third hardest schedule in the NFL, So 1004 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 2: I project them at eight seven. I don't hate you 1005 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 2: taking a fly on them that win the division because, like, 1006 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 2: if you know, the coaching upgrades I think might be 1007 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 2: not incorporated to the market here with from a scheme perspective, 1008 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 2: and then you know, if Jones and Adams just have 1009 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 2: monster years, this team could actually be better than last year, 1010 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 2: even though if they have some negative regression. Just because 1011 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 2: you have you were lucky that year, doesn't mean you 1012 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 2: can't be lucky again this year, or it doesn't mean 1013 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 2: you're gonna be unlucky. Just throw that out there. But 1014 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 2: the reason that I do kind of like it to 1015 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 2: win the division is that there is a chance that 1016 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 2: this division is just eating each other. Yeah, just get 1017 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 2: the canimalization. Then it's just like the race to like 1018 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 2: ten wins to win it. Yeah, that's kind of what 1019 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 2: I'm thinking. 1020 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: You know, Like, obviously the Raiders are you'd have to 1021 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: say that the fourth best team in the division or 1022 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: the worst put another way, but I don't think the 1023 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: gap is quite as large. I think, you know, just 1024 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: like all these other teams. I think, you know, the 1025 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: Raiders have their strengths and weaknesses, and you know, being 1026 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: able to throw the ball and being able to pass rush. 1027 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know, if you've had to choose some strengths, 1028 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: those would be the ones you choose. 1029 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 2: I think their secondary will be better, you know. 1030 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: Obviously abram At, you know, we'll see how if they 1031 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: can get more out of him. Well, you know, Morrigg 1032 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: has turned into a pretty good safety. Like I said, 1033 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: Rocky Scene has been one of the better corners in 1034 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: the weegue, and Hobbs was very good last year. So 1035 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: I don't think it's like bottom five. 1036 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 2: You've seen a little bit too much credit. 1037 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: But I mean we'll see, you know, he's he's uh, 1038 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: it's funny they kind of flip floped with the coats, 1039 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean he's been up and down. But 1040 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: if you can if you can build on what he's done, 1041 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 1: how he played last year, I think I think he'll 1042 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: be good. You know, obviously he was a lot worse 1043 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, and he was pretty solid in twenty nineteen. 1044 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: So but regardless, I do think there's some upside. So 1045 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: that's that's how it would attack this division. Everyone's gonna 1046 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: kind of make their case for who the best team 1047 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: in this division. Is why you should bet the over 1048 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, so the Chargers of the Broncos, whoever 1049 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: it might be. But I'd rather just take a flyer 1050 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: on the Raiders to win at six and a half 1051 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: to one. You could get some BLUs seven hundred out 1052 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: there as well, and hope that all these teams just 1053 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of beat each other up, maybe get some injury luck. 1054 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: But that's how I kind of attack this I don't hate. 1055 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 2: I just wouldn't bet. I wouldn't bet the Chiefs. And 1056 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 2: it's not even I'm hating on the Chiefs. The division 1057 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: is so good, I wouldn't take the favorite, and I 1058 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 2: think that they're not heading shoulders well, and I don't 1059 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 2: think they're better than the Chargers, and Chargers out there 1060 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 2: like that you can find like plus two fifty, that's 1061 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: plus two twenty right closer to right, But actually the 1062 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 2: Chargers should have better odds. But I don't hate the 1063 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 2: if I were, if I didn't bet the Chargers, I 1064 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 2: can't close on taking a shot on the Raiders for 1065 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 2: our recap. 1066 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: That's really the only bet that I I don't really 1067 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: like any of these, you know, in the AFC West, 1068 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just gonna be it's gonna be a gauntlet, 1069 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't really want win totals in 1070 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: the AFC West, And then I'm just not I'm just 1071 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: not there with the Titans under But what do you 1072 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: what do you got for your plays? 1073 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 2: For this one? We'll start in the AFC South. I 1074 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 2: like the Titans under going against history here. I know 1075 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 2: Vrabel has gone well. The Titans the only team to 1076 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 2: go over the win total in each the past five years, 1077 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 2: but I have them projected closer to eight wins. I 1078 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 2: think the offense is significantly worse a receiver, offensive line. 1079 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 2: The defense will be solid, but not enough to carry 1080 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 2: this team in a loaded AFC in the division that 1081 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 2: I think got better overall, while the Titans got worse. 1082 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 2: One of the luckiest teams in the NFL last year. 1083 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 2: I think there's some regression coming and this roster just 1084 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 2: got worse. So give me the Titans under and I 1085 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 2: might take a flyer on the Jags. I'm lower on 1086 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,919 Speaker 2: the Titans in the market. There is some downside risks 1087 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 2: with the Colts. If Lawrence can take that next step, 1088 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 2: maybe the defense is so bad. Still A decided on 1089 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 2: that one. And then in the AFC West, I agree 1090 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 2: with you. I staying far away from any wind total. 1091 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 2: I don't hate your Raiders start, but I think the 1092 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 2: Chargers might have the best roster in the NFL this year. 1093 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,439 Speaker 2: I like the Chargers to win the division right around 1094 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 2: fine plus two fifty. Make sure you shop around, all right, 1095 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 2: that is gonna do it now. 1096 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: We have got through all four of our preview episodes, 1097 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: so be sure to check out the other three, and 1098 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed this one. If you are 1099 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: looking to track your bets or follow ours, you can 1100 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: download the free award winning Action Network app. Also, be 1101 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: sure to check out all of our betting fantasy football 1102 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: content on actionnetwork dot com. 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